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[@Lotuswalker]

Very interesting video, makes me even more hyped for Cata !! I hope Ferals will be in a similar good state in Cata as they are in WotLK now !!!

[@appo8557]

do ya share your weakaura's/ui anywhere. I like your WA setup

[@shockingvenus8322]

Really looking forward to cata tbh also what u didnt mention is that alot of key abilities are now gained at a much lower level wich makes lvling much more enjoyable imo

[@chrisl2773]

I'm so happy to see so many new videos popping out for Cataclysm Classic and how many people are excited about the inevitable release :D I've been doing preparation for classic's release on a fresh private server that came out a few months back and can't wait for release

[@richardmanthorpe7871]

So glad these are back. Really informative just as a starter. Hope you get through all the videos

[@calvinhobbes5524]

great video, cant wait to see all the classes

[@Wollkneul17]

Love your Content and it is always a great help! I will be playing cata aswell, could you show us next time the Druid Changes please? :)

[@Avramic]

Really awesome and informative video, keep up the good work!

[@simoncodrington]

Great video mate ❤

[@Kewlandos]

Amazing job as always! pls make videos of the other classes soon :)

[@roblowery4039]

Love your content. Really helpful! What is the Addon that shows the buffs?

[@BurnXYZ1991]

very useful for someone that is going to play ret for the 1st time to introduce them to the changes and give them a quick overall on how to use the abilities, however some of the thing you said don't work like that when it come to the DPSing as ret. And when you master the spec and learn the boss fights, as you say, it will be a monster and very few classes will be above you on the DPS meters.

[@R3ar3ntry]

pally is nr on my list for cata... but gonna check ur mage and rogue vids, and yeah... i thought u were earing the shades cuzs the damn streamer-lights are so bright ty for awesome vid as always :D

[@WhiskeyNeat36]

I'm glad you're pumping these videos out now, so I can plan ahead. Impatiently waiting for the professions one though. Seems like a lot of professions get decent benefits, just curious what I need to stock up on and if it will be another meta situation

[@sajjber]

Hi. i would really like to know what addon it is your showing at 10:48 that shows buffs, debuffs, crowed control, etc etc.

[@theformuoli6397]

Scott I would love for you to do shamans next. I don’t think the DPS specs get a lot of love, but I would love for you to sink some time into restoration, as I’m extremely excited that soec specifically. I was my main in t11 and I have fond memories that I hope others experience

[@kerr4952]

keep em coming please

[@sRxcss]

Hyped that the Cata content is coming

[@mirceaakator407]

Hello sir , we can have that weak aura for proc at Infusion of Light ?

[@skar4276]

omg YES FINALLY! I have been waiting for your cata class changes for months now, thank you daddy Scotte!

[@moderngoblin]

I started maining pally in cata. Maybe my favorite memories in all of wow history, ret and holy equally. Mind bending fun

[@ryanmainella8507]

All 5 Cata class change videos are brilliant sir! When you're able might we get a DK video?

[@rockzors]

Wish the buffs didn't overlap as much.

[@tomdavenport1768]

I'm really looking forward to the enhancement shaman video. I love your content.

[@myapeyremorte329]

I've been waiting for those cata deepdive videos !!!

[@AGuy565]

3:22 in 4.3 You can also build it with judgement with the tier set for anyone watching.

[@j.w.2271]

As someone who loves the idea of being a melee healer I am greatly looking forward to the Cata Holy Pala. Seems like it'll be very exciting and solve many clutches if you play it right.

[@albeshino8875]

Can’t wait for other classes videos

[@ayayron9452]

I was just looking into the cata classes worth trying.. Lol. Good timing

[@TheFalopi]

First time I main'd a pally was in cata from firelands thru the first 2 tiers of MoP. I was Holy spec and it was a ton of fun. I remember being able to solo heal heroic 25m Ultraxion at some point.

[@5hourenergy580]

I honestly hate the holy power system. As a hpal i always hated it and thats why i quit playing it. I love how holy feels now in wrath

[@edwardroberts739]

good video - love the black eye story! lol

[@Klyptic]

inquisition buff always felt so clunky for ret in cata. Super fun otherwise

[@Calgar-xi7ph]

It was disgusting on prot with vengeance and divine plea into wings

[@naejimba]

It was the main thing that took a "whack a mole" spec where you hit what lit up to something you actually had to think about and plan ahead. Most people hate it but Cata is my favorite iteration of Ret, and I don't think it would be the same without it.

[@sparhawk2195]

@@naejimba the whole wack a more was fine. Inquisition was so hated it was screamed to be removed constantly. A holy version of rogue's slice and dice was never a good. Espically when ret mastery already inscreased holy damage. Not only was it redundant but it was just never fun or interesting.

[@naejimba]

@@sparhawk2195 , I like specs where you are spinning plates and have to think ahead like Shadow or Affliction. That is EXACTLY what holy power/inquisition did to the spec. It forces you to plan ahead and you are punished for mistakes. Now, I love that to death, but for most paladins that is not the class they signed up for... so I get it.

[@danielwells9118]

Glad class changes won the poll. Im exited to see the other classes, nice job.

[@dubachatron4094]

Wait what are they changing?

[@shockingvenus8322]

Totally agree

[@TheR41N]

One thing about auras is that holy paladin will usually use Resistance Aura, because of Aura Mastery boost. Other minor thing about auras, unless you have 4 paladins in raid, you will not see retribution Aura too often, simply because Resi, Devo and Conce Auras are way more important.

[@ryan4262]

Maybe I missed it but was the addition of Mastery and how it’s unique for each spec talked about?

[@drschonify]

Its okay, Scotte, I have tanked the floor boss too.

[@francoismatte411]

What is the addon that he showed at 10:46 ?

[@joshuatucker2521]

I saw a report recently that said Blizzard was not working on Cata Classic and currently doesn't have plans to. Not that they won't but it's not currently on their radar. Do you have different info? I really hope we get Cata Classic.. not that Cata was that amazing but so we can get one expansion closer to Pandaria. I took a break after Cata and only dabbled in retail since then.. would really love to get to experience MoP as it was.

[@Saekes]

Can you play shockadin in cata? Does holy do enough damage?

[@Trix__x]

Does hoj still work as a kick on bosses?

[@fizkarn6358]

Man i had completely forgotten how fun early stages of Cata were, hype is real

[@adamvance2973]

Popping wings in Cata and just going nuts on crusader strike, templars verdict and hammer of wrath was a blast.

[@sunderwire]

I always hated using light of dawn, such an awkward spell to land. I can’t wait for the holy radiance and guardian of ancient kings tho. It was such a shame when they nerfed holy radiance in WoD I think

[@JarrodShadowsonng]

This serves as a good reminder for me not to invest too much time into my Paladin and get attached to it this time around. I had forgotten how absolutely atrocious holy power felt coming from Wrath.

[@TheRubeeRose]

yes, I will never play paladin again in cata... that's assuming I play it. Not planning to at all in fact! Yeah holy power was god awefull to manage as well as all your mana use! Just trying to figure out where to put everything and remembering where it was on your keybinds was miserable! NEVER again in Cata!

[@afscrew123]

Its so amazing

[@afscrew123]

​@@TheRubeeRosejesus ur so casual xD

[@pyotrbagration2438]

@@TheRubeeRose >Nooooo I want my auto-attack judge/seal combo to be back

[@comq01]

yeah imagine doin anything else other than spam two buttons while never going oom

[@whataday2624]

Both Prot and Ret were fun to play in Cata. I never played Holy, but every Holy pally main spec player I knew loved it.

[@NJD47]

hpally was amazing, and you could also lvl holy and slap

[@American_Mike]

My main PvP toon in Cata was a Ret Pally. It was so much fun.

[@naejimba]

Without a doubt the most disgusting things I've ever done in bgs was on Cata Ret... I would ride around the ramp in WSG, jump into their gy and farm them as they spawned. XD

[@ootsie194]

Can anyone tell me the name of those beautiful Weak Aura packs?

[@decai6899]

Yes Scotty, make a shaman video asap ! :D

[@joehelland1635]

The biggest issue for me is the last third of holy is useless for holy dps, but you have to finish the tree, or lose a holy dps source by finishing prot… which also has a lot of dead skills for holy dps, but has less dead skills than ret.

[@rsmi2211]

why does your private server have holy radiance not having a cd? it had a cd until dragonsoul

[@barbaronaa5185]

I mean however we embellish it in the end there is only 1 truth : paladins in cataclysm vs wotlk, suck big deep

[@moderngoblin]

A set bonus allows you to gain holy power off judgment and it makes the whole thing sing!!!!

[@bena.9356]

Ret goes to straight garbage in Cata. Holy power was the worst addition to the class ever.

[@Vrory77]

Thanks Odin, they might change the gameplay and the talents from the classes and we might not see them as we already know. We might see something different then it used to be back in the day.

[@kertamis6654]

Heyo ! Will you do the same video about DK please ?

[@Sentinello]

Masteryyyy

[@ihalia]

I will be honest. As someone who played all paladin specs since TBC, I can't wait for cata. All 3 specs got SO much better in terms of gameplay. I don't really like the 4.3 Holy Radiance but that's only because you could literally spam it in Dragon Soul and top hps with it but that only happened because in most of Dragon Soul fights the whole raid is stacked. I will 100% play with both my paladins (because I have 2) for the first 2 tiers. I loved BWD/BoT(not you Tot4W) and FL but hated DS with passion. So after FL i'm out or I'll just play another class. Also, mana management became a thing in early cata and that was such a refreshing change compared to WotlK.

[@CVSoprano]

I found it hard to embrace holy power - ended up spending much more time on my resto druid from then on.

[@naejimba]

Funny because that is what made Ret click for me. I felt the same way though about Shadow after the Legion changes... it's an iteration everyone seems to love, but to me it's just not the spec I signed up to play. So I get you 100%. I did also enjoy me some resto druid in Cata... mostly PvP it was a blast.

[@joshuatucker2521]

Same. I was pissed. I mained paladin since the end of Vanilla and never wanted to have "combo points"

[@ZeketheZealot]

Cata Pally was the fucking BEST. God, I loved how interactive Ret was. There was no downtime where you were waiting for an auto attack, you were ALWAYS proccing something.

[@peexee752]

Druid next please!!!!

[@PerfectHighdra]

This! Please

[@ddspk2007]

Druid then mage!

[@ericreitz3753]

Cata Ret rotation was super jank until ya get a tier set bonus near the end of the xpack

[@loken100]

What class will you do next? :)

[@chainclaw07]

Paladins are a class that's been at the core of the IP since warcraft 2 and they're kind of iconic since the most prolific character of the Warcraft universe was one but got corrupted. I don't think of a character when thinking of warrior or hunter but I think of Uther, Arthas and Tyrion fordring when thinking paladin. Add to that the hybrid utility the class brings such as if geaered can heal, dps and tank. the closest concept to FFXIV s job system where you could just change to what role is needed. it really sucks that they are changing so much about Paladins as if they don't HAVE a class identity at all. for example - I always imagined Mana to be a spiritual resource, so the warrior that uses their spiritual side or feelings to power their combat maneuvers is distinct from a savage Warrior or any other class. yet the new resources kind of disconnects those aspects. I don't like it in an aesthetical aspect of the class.

[@Chriscras2]

make rogue and druid next please! 😄

[@ahetzel9054]

Do priest next! I think priests got shadow orbs in cata, super fun. I liked cata.

[@andersrrbye7557]

I can't wait for cata, its the expansion where the nostalgia hits the hardest for me, seeing as it was the first time i managed to hit max lvl. I sucked balls back then, had no clue about the right talents or rotations, but i still had so much fun (i was 12). I remember playing double blood DK in 2s, just clicking everything and still getting to almost 2k with my buddy who was prolly worse then me back then. All these years later with way better understanding, its gonna be a blast for sure. and for god sake please just add RDF and Raid Finder. Im not saying those things are perfect, but its way better than the GDKP meta going on in wrath atm, kinda lost all faith in Blizzard "improving" anything in classic, just look at the dungeon tool they came up with. If they add original or retail RDF, alts will be so fun! Blasting dungeons with fully enchanted looms with your mates going from 0-85 in like a week. Also i can't wait for the overtuned insta dead mechanics in Heroic dungeons. I love dungeons and farming pre raid BIS, but every other expansion dungeons have been a complete joke. See you in Cata everyone

[@lochvast1180]

I HATED holy power on my pally. It ruined the class for me.

[@g.g.2359]

Where they confirmed that next classic will be Cata ?

[@tilttiwow]

I dont even play paladin but this was interesting.

[@ColCoal]

Bruh icc isn’t even out yet. Can we chill or are you gonna make a Christmas video next week too?

[@Midinette-bu2xq]

Do shadow priest next.

[@patrickmurray3846]

um can not say anything about cata classic, as bliz already said it will not be the same as vanilla cata. from the world revamp to class design.

[@naejimba]

You have a source for that? Thanks.

[@mrsully6003]

Chebs has a nice right hook I see

[@Romanowski_808]

Shaman next?

[@ThePs1Returns]

As a ret player since original 3.3 wrath, i hated holy power and most changes that came with Cata... i really loved the raids tho... and it was my first time reaching 2k rating in arenas. 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@giulianomendez9367]

Do druid next 🎉

[@Spotnick2]

And this is when I started to hate playing my paladin and had to quit playing it because it was no longer enjoyable. I am playing AGAIN a paladin in classic, and I pray every day that if they move forward they won't do the same mistakes and keep the woltk talents.. there is a reason Inquisition was deleted from the game and so many other changes done in Cataclysm, if we wanted to play rogues we would have played a rogue. I have to live to another similar experience in Legion when Blizzard deleted discipline priests from the game and replace it by something else. I also remember how sucky it was when i couldn't use divine storm freely in low level dungeons and needed to build holy power to aggro everything.. that was sad. I did play paladin until the end of cata and killed heroic madness, then in mop decided to try mistweaver monk because i had zero fun as retribution with like 13 abilities to use in a fight.

[@XxKinGzxX100]

Get good

[@naejimba]

Cata Ret is my favorite iteration of any spec at any point in the game, but I GET IT. I like playing things like Shadow or Affliction where you are spinning plates and thinking ahead, and that is EXACTLY what holy power/inquisition did to the spec. Most people love Legion Shadow, but to me as a long time Shadow player it felt like it was no longer the spec I signed up to play and the thing I loved had died. I understand where you are coming from even if we don't enjoy the same things. If they release Cata it will be with the Cata talents and 4.3 patch. If you want to keep going into Cata, I would suggest looking into the other classes/specs when you get some time. You can even make max lvl toons on a private server and test things out. It would be a shame to find yourself miserable again and there are a lot of fun specs. So what is it about Paladin that you like? What other classes are you interested in? I've done most things on Cata p servers so I could give you some good suggestions to help. =)

[@dmytroolashyn2625]

Hey, what’s about profs?

[@MrBrownsugar85]

lol I don’t know cause I’m not playing cata lol

[@doneinnj]

Don’t sleep on the new holy mastery called illuminated healing. Every time you heal, you generate a bubble. It’s a built in valnyr. And you can stack it upon itself.

[@Marcoos1996]

Go on and tell Gho to do one for Boomkins now

[@lfgubrs]

I stopped playing in vanilla after Wotlk and I main ret now in classic and damn ret seems so overwhelming. Feels like Blizzard just went total apeshit and threw in too much abilities and changes in one expansion. I get what they were trying to do to make the gameplay more intense and engaging. The learning curve is gonna be so long if you even ever will get the hang of it 100%

[@kevinjohansson9358]

DK next please :)

[@chainclaw07]

10:58 - holy shit, look at that BOOK of a tooltip ..... but nah, Wow isn't getting too complex in it's systems....

[@BTG514]

Good to start with Paladin, most popular class.

[@blanerampart4986]

@5:11 For 'engaging' read 'annoying'.

[@actavisprime514]

Sucks because I’ve been topping the meters pretty much on every boss in ICC by pressing 6 buttons

[@khinjerman]

too much cds for ret , its gonna be bad

[@supra4lif3]

Here! We! Go! with the Cata Hype. Thank you Scotte!

[@Flatbeat808]

Hi, Whats the best way to level 80-85 as a Paladin?

[@naejimba]

If there is LFD (unlikely given it hasn't been put into Wrath Classic) then it would be Prot dungeon spam followed by healing dungeons. If not, Ret would probably be the fastest.

[@Buskyb]

Why they have to ruin the pala with a builder spender play style? They do the same with spriest.. sad sad

[@thizlam4810]

My brother and I used to piss people off queuing Rdruid/Prot in arena 😂

[@mehmetibrahimogullari3043]

'Inevitably launches' smh

[@YeovilCarpers]

so excited for Hpal in Cata, i love the melee caster playstyle. easily one of the most fun specs in the game to play.

[@Sinhero]

If you want to dabble in that gameplay, I know classic ppl don’t like retail but retail hpal is fun af

[@YeovilCarpers]

@@Sinhero agreed, since BFA Hpal has been super fun to play

[@Sinhero]

@@YeovilCarpers yeah the recent rework made it fun and op, but i think they’ve been doing tuning recently for it and should still be good and fun, both raid and mythic plus

[@Zeth408]

bring rogue one plz, for pvp and pve

[@alib2374]

why did this have to be a top 10 with all the specs listed in there too? I half expected you to put paladin as number one

[@jpbarry93]

Cata is the exp where paladins are really tested when it comes to finding a keybind home for every ability.

[@honnycorns1]

I wonder if cata will launch with pre nerf Holy Radiance

[@christopherjager5310]

Holy power is crap!!!!!! I played a paladin to play a paladin. Not to play like a rogue

[@NotSoSwift]

i really dontt like this i hope the "holy power" isant added i like how it is now :(