Top 10 F1 Drivers of the 1980s

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Josh Revell

Josh Revell

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@SamuelSantos_
@SamuelSantos_ 3 жыл бұрын
Josh’s transition from one driver to another is smoother than Alain Prost’s driving style.
@joshandlena13
@joshandlena13 3 жыл бұрын
Smooth operatorrrrrrr
@metal665lica
@metal665lica 3 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing
@tommcglone2867
@tommcglone2867 3 жыл бұрын
Alain Prost, as much as Senna was and always will be the GOAT, was the best driver of the 1980s. Alains Supreme talent paired with his legitamate genius level intelligence made for a driver which we may never see again.
@mariuscristache3110
@mariuscristache3110 2 жыл бұрын
@@tommcglone2867 SHUT UP... PROST WAS A WEASEL.... NOT GREAT... SENNA WAS LEGENDARY...A SENNA WE WILL NEVER SE AGAIN .... PROSTS WE VE SEEN .... "SCHUMACHER, HAMILTON .... POINT AFTER WESEALS .... LEGENDS LIKE FANGIO, CLACK, SENNA ... NOT REALLY.
@TrayleF1
@TrayleF1 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariuscristache3110 L
@LtNduati
@LtNduati 3 жыл бұрын
Piquet's joke about Senna was unnecessarily savage, you can tell the phrase "too soon" does not exist in his head
@bl41ck97
@bl41ck97 3 жыл бұрын
But he was right though
@sccchan1980
@sccchan1980 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t trust a Piquet!
@erwanparcelier8745
@erwanparcelier8745 3 жыл бұрын
@mrluigi04 Piquet like doing some spicy joke and I like that. I like this because nobody does that now.
@johncale1849
@johncale1849 3 жыл бұрын
It wasnt a joke - he hated Senna
@csbr75
@csbr75 3 жыл бұрын
@mrluigi04 he is as spicy as Bolsonaro's covid management
@user-xo5zh9xb5b
@user-xo5zh9xb5b 3 жыл бұрын
I think what‘s so crazy about Prost is that he lost out on 4 more titles by just 18 or 19 or something points in total. Dude could’ve been an 8 time world champion.
@ELSTERLING
@ELSTERLING 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest irony of them all for Prost is Monaco 1984. If the race hadn't been stopped prematurely (as some allege was done on his behalf by Balestre's less than trustworthy FIA) and he'd gone on to finish second he'd have scored 6 points for the second place instead of 4.5 points for a win, which would have made him WDC.
@rubywest5166
@rubywest5166 3 жыл бұрын
@@ELSTERLING It's a common story, but there's a wrinkle to it that everyone forgets- The Mclarens that day were suffering from heavy brake fade in the cold and wet conditions, and Lauda had already retired because of it. For all the permutations of results (Senna winning, Senna retiring with broken suspension, Bellof winning and not losing it to a DSQ etc), "Prost's brakes scream enough and he crashes out" is too often forgotten in favour of the "ironic" narrative
@ELSTERLING
@ELSTERLING 3 жыл бұрын
@@rubywest5166 You're not wrong. That's the difficulty of playing 'what if' with history and especially F1 I guess.
@zakwan10
@zakwan10 3 жыл бұрын
He also had a title gifted to him through shady circumstances by F1 top bosses.
@squilldx5055
@squilldx5055 3 жыл бұрын
@@ELSTERLING the allegations are wrong because Ickx was actually the one who stopped the race. People (including Balestre) accused him of favoring Porsche because he raced for them in sportscars and wanted them to win. Legal action was taken because of it iirc
@Samylton
@Samylton 3 жыл бұрын
F1 was a fully badass time in the 80s
@benardo01
@benardo01 3 жыл бұрын
Still is
@tunari3693
@tunari3693 3 жыл бұрын
@@benardo01 🧢
@benardo01
@benardo01 3 жыл бұрын
@@tunari3693 its different to what it was, but that doesn't mean worse or less badass
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 3 жыл бұрын
@@benardo01 It's not as badass, it's much more clinical, still great but not on the level of the 80's.
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 3 жыл бұрын
Motorsports was on a different level in the 80's. You had F1, which was gnarly in its own right, you had Indy CART which was almost on the same level. Then there was Group B and Group C which were the most unhinged race cars in motorsports of all time. At least during the modern zeitgeist of motorsports. Nothing comes close to the 80's for motorsports and I can't see it ever being the case again.
@boxesofzitti
@boxesofzitti 3 жыл бұрын
That opening was incredible and shows how far Josh has grown in his KZbin career. Congrats Josh!
@josephsnitch1201
@josephsnitch1201 3 жыл бұрын
Sheeeeeeeesh!!!
@tobias03coimbra52
@tobias03coimbra52 3 жыл бұрын
Yeahh josh is my favorite KZbinr in this moment
@dodolurker
@dodolurker 3 жыл бұрын
I've always liked the fact that Benetton's first and last race victories were both by Gerhard Berger 😊
@Undivided-X
@Undivided-X 3 жыл бұрын
And also his own first and last victories were with Benetton. A nice symmetry there.
@frozenuruguayball6436
@frozenuruguayball6436 2 жыл бұрын
And his debut was with Benetton and retired with Benetton (correct me if I’m wrong)
@MNA5715
@MNA5715 2 жыл бұрын
@@frozenuruguayball6436 his first race was with ats, his first full season was at arrows, he joined benetton in his second full year
@khawajabasit977
@khawajabasit977 3 жыл бұрын
"Renault being reliably unreliable" had me in tears. Great pun Josh! Thumbs up :)
@RACECAR
@RACECAR 3 жыл бұрын
That is Clive James levels of line delivery and I am here for it.
@teamkar25
@teamkar25 3 жыл бұрын
The professor not just the most tactical driver to ever be behind the wheel but also pure outright speed when needed, proven by the the amount of fastest race laps he achieved.
@pisomark
@pisomark 3 жыл бұрын
Little fun fact: when Senna and Schumy had a tendency to get, at least try to get, the easy "teammate situation" possible, Alain Prost won 4 titles with a world champion (former or future) as teammate: Lauda, Rosberg, Senna, Hill. Excluding Senna, he beated those teammate: Watson, Arnoux, Cheever, Lauda, Rosberg, Johansson, Mansell, Alesi, Hill...... By a mile, most of the time Watson's words: it does not matter how fast you are, that fucking little frog will be half a second faster
@mikeymike1792
@mikeymike1792 3 жыл бұрын
Rene Arnoux bought me a whiskey once. True story.
@andrewwinslow9315
@andrewwinslow9315 3 жыл бұрын
The reason he was slow was because he was not used to Normal Air, as opposed to turbo compressed and cooled in the drinkery
@tomoldrini4762
@tomoldrini4762 3 жыл бұрын
@Vincent Snoep ah nice james hunt quote😂😂
@PG-20
@PG-20 3 жыл бұрын
@Vincent Snoep Good ol' James
@Rambat-ib5ie
@Rambat-ib5ie 3 жыл бұрын
Details?
@andrewwinslow9315
@andrewwinslow9315 3 жыл бұрын
@Vincent Snoep So Anyway!
@lorenzorsn3702
@lorenzorsn3702 3 жыл бұрын
Of course prost is first, I mean in the 80's this guy was so quick and with modern reliability he would have won in 82-83-84 without any problem, he also competed in so many different cars, the wing cars of the early 80's, turbocharged monster and then V12-10 cars with active suspentions... what a guy
@almeidaariel9
@almeidaariel9 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, i think Senna was better but Senna's peak was in the early 90's, so out of the decade
@lorenzorsn3702
@lorenzorsn3702 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah his 91-93 seasons where so good
@ApsyrysClips
@ApsyrysClips 3 жыл бұрын
@@almeidaariel9 Yeah if it was 80s-90s I would have put Senna first but with only the 80s I agree that Prost is first
@salmanazam9444
@salmanazam9444 3 жыл бұрын
The opening was brilliant. But even more brilliant was every single transition from driver to driver. SMOOTH.
@leandrociarrapico9256
@leandrociarrapico9256 3 жыл бұрын
Now we are heading to the 90's, can we get the WTF happened to Life Racing Engines video?
@xenonentity713
@xenonentity713 3 жыл бұрын
Ah shit!! Here we go again......bad engines having a tendency to disintegrate on their own and a back marker team, perfect recipe for pre-qualifying mess.
@dani02_mmd
@dani02_mmd 3 жыл бұрын
Josh should do a video about prequalifying, it was pretty funny
@ELSTERLING
@ELSTERLING 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. So very yes.
@TripleAlfafa
@TripleAlfafa 3 жыл бұрын
It should be a part of a larger video about why the 107 percent rule came to be.
@F1Krazy
@F1Krazy 3 жыл бұрын
@@xenonentity713 Don't forget the overweight, potentially unsafe chassis, the absurd lack of equipment and finances, and the fact that their first driver is now a convicted nonce
@TheArjunSingh_
@TheArjunSingh_ 3 жыл бұрын
Alain Prost - The professor best nickname in F1 history
@Jusuff
@Jusuff 3 жыл бұрын
Another good one is Mansell's" il leone" which means the lion
@igorbarreto6604
@igorbarreto6604 3 жыл бұрын
Ayrton Senna was called "Chefe"(Boss) here in Brazil. I think is nice aswell.
@m8774-y5z
@m8774-y5z 3 жыл бұрын
Fun fact : stefan bellof was over half a second per lap quicker than senna in the 1984 monaco grand prix
@SamuelSantos_
@SamuelSantos_ 3 жыл бұрын
He’d have been a big protagonist in F1 if he had lived. Plus: He had one of the coolest helmets I’ve ever seen
@m8774-y5z
@m8774-y5z 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelSantos_ true i love that colour combination
@rubywest5166
@rubywest5166 3 жыл бұрын
Then again, given that year's Tyrrell we don't know how much of that was Stefan and how much was the car being more horrifically underweight than a London Fashion Week model
@SamuelSantos_
@SamuelSantos_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@rubywest5166 Fair enough
@billy5179
@billy5179 3 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelSantos_ he was german, its actually just the german flag in two long stripes. but it looks mighty cool.
@rubywest5166
@rubywest5166 3 жыл бұрын
I'm glad Prost's number 1 here. Even for those who would put Senna as number 1 of all time, it's hard to deny that, due to the way decades work, Prost was the best driver of the 80's by virtue of having 4 title challenges before Senna even got the chance to win a race... Just like Stewart really- a great enough career to be number one in a 10 year span, but the way the years work out he's more like close second/third over two decades.
@cemereffstream7866
@cemereffstream7866 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I got this one. Prost is the best of the 80s. He is not better than Lauda, for example, but Lauda is another time. Senna is better driver, Prost is just awesome, that is to little to decribe Senna.
@govand7
@govand7 2 жыл бұрын
Prost was a better driver in the 80’s and Senna was the better driver in the 90’s
@srxt6758
@srxt6758 Жыл бұрын
Alain Prost beat 5 teammates that were either WDC or went to become WDC. No driver had as high caliber of teammates as him...
@glowtail3744
@glowtail3744 3 жыл бұрын
The 1980s being the time were the cars were a lot smaller
@george4821
@george4821 3 жыл бұрын
They don't look smaller!
@OnionChoppingNinja
@OnionChoppingNinja 3 жыл бұрын
@@george4821 they were. That move at 0:34, no way in hell you could pull that off with a 2021 car. For comparison: i.redd.it/o7s426f2yfm31.jpg
@AidanRitchie
@AidanRitchie 3 жыл бұрын
Wider than modern cars, at least in the late '80s
@EddieVanAidan
@EddieVanAidan 3 жыл бұрын
All cars of all decades are small compared to the limousines they race nowadays lol
@Kxji
@Kxji 3 жыл бұрын
And a shit ton of power.
@SiVlog1989
@SiVlog1989 3 жыл бұрын
Senna and Prost's rivalry, while iconic, was strange to me, there were times when they used bitter language to refer to each other (for example Prost said "Ayrton has a small problem in that he thinks that he can't kill himself, because he believes in God and things like this and that is very dangerous," or Senna, upon being asked in the post race press conference at Estoril in 1992 about Prost returning with Williams in 1993, "it's like he [Prost] is returning to racing with running shoes and everyone else is in trainers, he's not returning in a sportive way, what he's doing is being a coward,") they also brought out the best in each other and seemed to become best friends after Prost retired at the end of 1993. Indeed I'll go further than that, in 1992, while Prost was on a sabbatical, Senna seemed to miss racing against him, his performance (not helped by an underperforming McLaren, relative to the dominant FW14B of Williams) was below what he was capable of, finishing 4th in the drivers championship behind Mansell, Patrese and Michael Schumacher (who was in his first full season) and he seemed to relish racing against Prost in 1993, the races at Kyalami and Silverstone in particular showed them racing in thrilling wheel to wheel combat for lap after lap until Prost inevitably got through
@henriquerauen
@henriquerauen 3 жыл бұрын
Prost helped carry Senna's coffin during his funeral in Brazil. For all the problems they had between them, they both (and their families) knew it was all on track.
@SiVlog1989
@SiVlog1989 3 жыл бұрын
@@henriquerauen I wonder if Prost, in retrospect, looks back at the rivalry he had with Senna with some regret (like not attending the photoshoot in Adelaide 1990 with the then past and current world champions of the sport, as he was still fuming about Suzuka)
@TherealLorinser
@TherealLorinser 3 жыл бұрын
Elio de Angelis is absolutely underrated he was an awesome driver specially in his Lotus times but in Senna's arrival the eyes is all over in him, Angelis winning 2 races in his career from Austrian Grand Prix in 1982 and San Marino 1986 sadly same year at Paul Ricard he was killed while testing, I was obsessed with him because of his badass Helmet.
@sarosh1
@sarosh1 3 жыл бұрын
Elio de Angelis is a remarkably forgotten and underrated driver, during their time as teammates at Lotus (1981-1984), de Angelis handily beat Mansell, 46-15 in qualifying, 12-7 in races, and 76-38 in points. He then gave Senna a genuine fight in 1985, losing 3-13 in qualifying, 3-5 in races, and 33-38 in points - comparable to Mansell’s results against Prost at Ferrari. Elio de Angelis definitely belongs among the greats of the 1980s, that's for sure.
@nimira43
@nimira43 3 жыл бұрын
De Angelis was a good driver, liked him a lot. Maybe not the best but definitely good. So sad he passed away
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks
@F1ll1nTh3Blanks 3 жыл бұрын
Also, he has a phenomenal name.
@kawai922
@kawai922 3 жыл бұрын
Im sure the drivers would be freaking out when they see his helmet coming in the mirror (if they can actually see the side mirrors)
@dangerdean9066
@dangerdean9066 2 жыл бұрын
Did Jean Alesi have a racing helmet design inspired by de Angelis?
@ELSTERLING
@ELSTERLING 3 жыл бұрын
Choosing a top driver out of Senna and Prost is never an easy call with no wrong answer and I'd have gone the other way but I 100% respect your reasoning. Great video as always, Josh.
@JackCallSports
@JackCallSports 3 жыл бұрын
Crazy how underrated Piquet was
@Utopian_Futures
@Utopian_Futures 3 жыл бұрын
He isn’t, his bad luck was just Senna being a stronger shining guy from same country. If you ask people for a Brazilian driver 99% say Senna, if piquet wasn’t from same country he would be more famous
@bongocat5223
@bongocat5223 3 жыл бұрын
Being a manus didn't help his cause
@nicolasbonifacio8720
@nicolasbonifacio8720 3 жыл бұрын
It's mostly because we have a lot of 'Senna's Widows' here in Brasil. Most people don't acknowledge how good Piquet and Fittipaldi were because of how adored Senna is until this day.
@joejohnnys
@joejohnnys 3 жыл бұрын
he isnt he got destroyed by mansell in 86 and nearly lost the title to prost in a fk renault in 83
@joejohnnys
@joejohnnys 3 жыл бұрын
@@nicolasbonifacio8720 Esse video é gringo e não brasieiro. Piquet não ficou na sombra do senna mundo afora, pq ngm compara piquet e senna, só no brasil
@pulkitnahata4140
@pulkitnahata4140 3 жыл бұрын
Top Driver's each decade: 50s: Fangio 60s: Clark 70s: Fittipaldi/Lauda 80s: Prost 90s: Senna/Schumacher 00s: Schumacher 10s: Hamilton
@krishnakanth2697
@krishnakanth2697 3 жыл бұрын
Finally prost given the appreciation he deserves senna maybe the fastest but Alan is the king of car management
@JohnnyCaspari
@JohnnyCaspari 3 жыл бұрын
Stefan Bellof, the most underrated 80s driver..
@rubywest5166
@rubywest5166 3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call him underrated if just for the very simple reason that he never got the chance to show his skill in a top car. Did it look like he had the skill to be a top calibre driver? Absolutely. But like many other drivers killed early into his career, we never got to see if he would've managed at that level. And after seeing many other drivers look brilliant in smaller teams and fail to impress at top level teams (be it mentally or on pace), the best that can really be done is put an asterisk by his name and go "by the way, this Bellof guy could've been fucking amazing"
@ELSTERLING
@ELSTERLING 3 жыл бұрын
Not underrated so much as never got the chance to shine before his death. Dude was the Jules Bianchi of the 80s.
@joejohnnys
@joejohnnys 3 жыл бұрын
stop talking BS dude. Belof had only a few races in F1
@greatkali5866
@greatkali5866 3 жыл бұрын
he was not underrated, but had not too many options to prove his skills. reason is obvious I guess
@JohnnyCaspari
@JohnnyCaspari 3 жыл бұрын
For example his nürburgringrecord will stand forever, noone will get this time without a hybrid. His performance in Monaco, where Senna got 2nd, was absolutely outstanding. Senna and him had no turbo. Senna closed up to Prost one second per lap. Bellof closed up almost 2 seconds to Senna per lap. Jacky Ickx was a racejudge that day in Monaco. The man, who killed him, also ripped off Bellof's biggest effort in f1.. So I think underrated is a good word
@jackmanley1473
@jackmanley1473 3 жыл бұрын
Honestly, feel like it's more contentious to have Gilles Villeneuve that low than it is to rate Prost as better than Senna in the 1980s
@guanjun1178
@guanjun1178 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed.
@milindnandargi2862
@milindnandargi2862 3 жыл бұрын
Cool Fact Alain Prost was only 12.5 points away from becoming a 8 time world champion
@aydankhaliq2967
@aydankhaliq2967 3 жыл бұрын
Oof
@tobias03coimbra52
@tobias03coimbra52 3 жыл бұрын
The 1983 was his championship everyone talks about 88 or 90 but 83 he was the master. Only god knows how he lost that year
@hugolouessard3914
@hugolouessard3914 3 жыл бұрын
@@tobias03coimbra52 Same in 82. His car was so unreliable ! But when he could finish it was most of the time on top or on the podium. I mean, he may be the only french champion so far, but what a champion !
@nadiainterF9
@nadiainterF9 3 жыл бұрын
God this Channel is getting better and better Cheers Josh
@Hyperoxydane
@Hyperoxydane 3 жыл бұрын
We got Lord Mahaveer, Sir Lancelot, King Latifi. Can't wait what Mazepin title will be!
@pepperjackttv
@pepperjackttv 3 жыл бұрын
Tzar Nikita
@theflash9613
@theflash9613 3 жыл бұрын
Master Spin. I'll see myself out...
@hugolouessard3914
@hugolouessard3914 3 жыл бұрын
Prince Mazepin
@NassimFTW
@NassimFTW 3 жыл бұрын
5 seconds and I’m already laughing 😂
@alozzola
@alozzola 3 жыл бұрын
I read this comment while the pre video ad was playing and I was like oh yeh seem about right. Video plays for 5 seconds and I’m laughing so I couldn’t agree more
@PassiveSmoking
@PassiveSmoking 3 жыл бұрын
"The world was slightly less ****ed up than it is today" Given that half of the world was on a knife edge with the other half of the world over who would push the button that rained nuclear death down on us all from above first, that's quite a statement!
@0xilipe0
@0xilipe0 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, in terms of art, design, fashion and aesthetics the 80s had some great stuff but there was also the Cold War, the moral panic of the war on drugs, the homofobia of the AIDS scare and economic recessions all across the globe... I'll stick with retrowave in the 2020's thank you very much lol
@regen9918
@regen9918 3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention apartheid, or the conflict in Ireland
@MrDragon1968
@MrDragon1968 3 жыл бұрын
He meant it tongue in cheek, but I had a chuckle at that. Just the threat of nuclear annihilation, the cold war, major wars raging across the middle-east, Africa and elsewhere, authoritarian dictatorships throughout South America and in the Philippines, terrorism, coups, assassinations/attempted assassinations of major political leaders etc. Fun times :)
@TheWeekendWarrior490
@TheWeekendWarrior490 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with Prost being the number 1 in this era. Sure Senna was amazing in some areas especially qualy and wet racing. But Prost was the most complete driver among his peers.
@cantfindawayout
@cantfindawayout 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video as always, absolutely top level. Also glad to see we have absolutely the same top 5, I think Prost is severely underrated by a lot of people.
@aidanmagee2269
@aidanmagee2269 3 жыл бұрын
I personally love senna to bits and tbf( in my OPINION) think he’s probs number 1 in the next era but it would have been a disservice to put Prost anywhere but 1st, man is most definitely a 100% the most underrated driver in f1 history
@lyrahobb7113
@lyrahobb7113 3 жыл бұрын
I agree about Prost being underated, I feel like people glorify Senna and show Prost as the bad guy, when really none of them was better then the other (in there rivalry) and by that Prost achivements are often diminish. The problem is with the toxic fan of Senna. The worst is that they make me like Senna less and less with every comment they whrite, and the more I read them the more I doubt his talent. There rivalry is History. They pushed each other, sometimes too far. But after Prost left they could go past this and became friends. Thats what's beatiful about them.
@corduroyspoon9346
@corduroyspoon9346 3 жыл бұрын
Josh putting senna no. 2: I am going to make an environment that is so toxic...
@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance
@lorddrac_dontaskmetodance 3 жыл бұрын
Okay, except he's correct.
@Marceloloeite
@Marceloloeite 3 жыл бұрын
To be fair, senna had his peak in the 90's
@leksasdf
@leksasdf 3 жыл бұрын
Keke Rosberg was the most 80's man that ever lived. Fucking legend as is his son.
@Minuy600
@Minuy600 3 жыл бұрын
Prost at number 1? Thank fuck, someone who doesn't buy F1 media bias on that regard. Looking at you, Codemasters.
@ObviouslyKieran
@ObviouslyKieran 3 жыл бұрын
I bet Josh just wanted an excuse to use the 80's synth theme 😂😂
@codyC423
@codyC423 3 жыл бұрын
The mid 80's saw 600-700hp group B rally cars, 1,400hp F1 cars, and guys doing 215 + mph in NASCAR. Hell, Bill Elliot did a 212.809 mph single car qualifying run at Talladega
@theosaulnier6595
@theosaulnier6595 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's because I'm french but I agree for Prost and Senna even if even Alain Prost consider Ayrton Senna as a better driver, but the fact is Prost was a lot more constant which lead him to his 4 titles. But on pure pace Senna is clearly the best of all time
@mrkipling2201
@mrkipling2201 Жыл бұрын
I started watching F1 in 1984. Nigel Mansell is my favourite racing driver ever. Due to being English, and one of the fastest and toughest drivers ever. Amazing.
@BOABModels
@BOABModels 3 жыл бұрын
Prost was the best driver in the '80s, yes. It's the difficulty with doing this based on decades as we have seen some crossover with the '70s. I imagine that some of these drivers will appear in the '90s video too!
@aaronanish7400
@aaronanish7400 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a simple guy, I see Josh Revel's vid, I click
@Strudlfaust
@Strudlfaust 3 жыл бұрын
So not even a honourable mention for Christan Danner? Even though he was the first F1 driver to wear an earring and according to Clive James was the only reason grid girls turned up at the races
@aydankhaliq2967
@aydankhaliq2967 3 жыл бұрын
Ah I see, your a man of culture.
@IliasTselios
@IliasTselios 3 жыл бұрын
You are correct. Prost was awarded as the 2nd GOAT F1 driver, behind only Fangio by a study: www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/greatest-formula-one-driver-ever-1.567358
@squilldx5055
@squilldx5055 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with Prost being better but this list is terrible? Niki not in the top 100??? Insane
@IliasTselios
@IliasTselios 3 жыл бұрын
@@squilldx5055 I don't think that any study could produced a 100% correct such list, the focus was the driver performance, removing other factors like car dominance, etc.
@haydenhodgson8716
@haydenhodgson8716 3 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad that he put Prost 1st and senna 2nd if this list said the fastest drivers senna would have been 1 but Prost so more clever
@areebsiddiqui758
@areebsiddiqui758 3 жыл бұрын
Well its actually because Senna only started racing in F1 midway through the decade and was only in a championship winning car in 88 and 89.
@aydankhaliq2967
@aydankhaliq2967 3 жыл бұрын
@@areebsiddiqui758 I thought senna and Vettel fans were bad on their own, but mixed together, why put me on this earth?
@areebsiddiqui758
@areebsiddiqui758 3 жыл бұрын
@@aydankhaliq2967 What exactly did I say wrong? Why don't you shut the hell up if you haven't got anything better to say.
@PG-20
@PG-20 3 жыл бұрын
@@aydankhaliq2967 People like you tear this sport's fanbase apart
@autisticguitar
@autisticguitar 3 жыл бұрын
it is, mentally, senna are more agressive and intimidating, but prost are much more cool-headed. both are great in their own ways, they're 2 of the very best imo. when you see senna in his quali lap, you will be astonished with how he can control a car on its absolute limit of grip, how he can milk every little bit of a car's ability is beyond me. but then when you see prost, you see how he precise, accurate, and smart he is. when he drives, his steering wheel input into a corner is usually one-in and one-out, no understeer or oversteer in sight (i recommend watching his onboard, it's awesome). that's also why he won some battle with senna despite being outqualified by +1 second every other grand prix. prost would set his car for the race, while senna will set his for the quali, this is why we often hear prost shines in the late part of the race where everybody was running out of tyres and fuel, meanwhile prost who had saved his resources the whole race can finally push and overtake everyone later on. also in the time when reliability was a big concern, prost was saving his car parts, whereas senna would drive flat-out in quali, and eventually his car broke down in the race. to be a complete racing driver, you have to have 2 of these characteristics combined, a blistering qualifier with pure speed, talent, and sense of grip combined with a smart, calculating racer.
@thetoptige8014
@thetoptige8014 2 жыл бұрын
I think the most impressive stat in F1 history is that Prost got more points than everyone of his teammates over his years with each, and he had lauda, rosberg, senna, Mansell and Damon hill
@chrisccc22
@chrisccc22 3 жыл бұрын
I'm 50 years old and have been to over 80 GP. The 80s and early 90s were my favorite time. I haven't watched it yet but I'm picking Alboreto. He was fascinating to watch live. A true racer.
@AdrianBelmonte96
@AdrianBelmonte96 3 жыл бұрын
i rank Bruno Giacomelli pretty high cause he survived his Life sentence pun very much intended...
@Jusuff
@Jusuff 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely brilliant
@edoardoandretta9550
@edoardoandretta9550 3 жыл бұрын
I’m waiting for WTF happened to Andrea de Cesaris
@taylorerikbrophy8882
@taylorerikbrophy8882 3 жыл бұрын
He passed away.
@davidh.8798
@davidh.8798 3 жыл бұрын
For a 3-time world champ, it is indeed odd how little kudos Piquet gets. I must do some reading up on his career.
@renehoude7705
@renehoude7705 3 жыл бұрын
I am Canadian, and I find so funny when you put the National Canadian anthem with distortion, like it is way too loud. I know the curent Canadians F1 line up makes this, but Canadians are not particully noisy, lol!!! A good one!
@zakwan10
@zakwan10 3 жыл бұрын
Canadian here also and the king Latifi bit had me laughing out loud.
@gavalant366
@gavalant366 3 жыл бұрын
Those transitions between entries are nothing but flawless.
@willjudd1282
@willjudd1282 3 жыл бұрын
Hate Prost, love Senna.... But I have to admit that josh is right on this one. He was insane
@experimenteight4550
@experimenteight4550 3 жыл бұрын
I think even the most die-hard Senna fan would agree that Prost was the top boss of the 80’s.
@HarryIke4
@HarryIke4 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, excited to watch the 90s
@chrisgoblin4857
@chrisgoblin4857 2 жыл бұрын
Not got the biggest knowledge of the racing in the 80s but I will say that Keke Rosberg save is the best I've seen. The skills!
@rodolfinhomaximo
@rodolfinhomaximo 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with Prost been the best driver from the 80's. Although im a Senna's fan i believe his best decade was the 90's where he did most of his iconic performances. Anyway thank God for Senna and Prost. Their history will live forever.
@giuliotonellifilm25
@giuliotonellifilm25 3 жыл бұрын
John Watson...one of the most underrated drivers in F1 history
@vebastiansettel1173
@vebastiansettel1173 2 жыл бұрын
Watching that green brazilian theme helmet always made me shed tears. Senna will always be the best for me.
@shaurgaur
@shaurgaur 3 жыл бұрын
Fully agree with the top choice. If you're talking about the 1980s, then he's clearly the best. Since 1982 onwards, he was consistently at the top level. I think he's underrated compared to his two-time teammate.
@JontysCorner
@JontysCorner 3 жыл бұрын
Here's my broken record comment again: Watch the extended version of Senna folks, the theatrical cut really makes Prost look like a dick when they had pretty reconciled their differences by the time Ayrton died.
@jayrusty2012
@jayrusty2012 3 жыл бұрын
That docu did a huge disservice to f1, completely biased emotional fanboy stuff 👎😾👎
@JontysCorner
@JontysCorner 3 жыл бұрын
@@jayrusty2012 Completely agree.
@mafiousbj
@mafiousbj 3 жыл бұрын
Before seeing this...Senna could be weird, because he split his success between the late 80's and early 90's...so I doubt he will be N°1, hell statistically we could put him behind Piquet, probably in N°3 Edit: Reutemann deserved an honorable mention at least, he got so close to the championship in '81, and he grabbed some podiums while participating in some WRC rounds!
@rodrigodepierola
@rodrigodepierola 3 жыл бұрын
You praise Jacques Laffite, I press like.
@woody7219
@woody7219 3 жыл бұрын
Love your work. Would love to see some vids on the holy trinity of NZ F1 drivers Hulme, Amon and McLaren.
@aydankhaliq2967
@aydankhaliq2967 3 жыл бұрын
1. Prost 2. Piquet 3. Senna 4. Lauda 5. Berger 6. Villeneuve 7. Pironi 8. Rosberg 9. Arnoux 10. Mansell Edit: lets discuss
@sadikurrahman4833
@sadikurrahman4833 3 жыл бұрын
Prost beat mansell and piquet in a slower car…
@aydankhaliq2967
@aydankhaliq2967 3 жыл бұрын
@@sadikurrahman4833 wow that was fast. And yeah maybe I should fix that.
@luckyboy4766
@luckyboy4766 3 жыл бұрын
@@sadikurrahman4833 Same way Raikkonen beat Hamilton and Alonso
@sadikurrahman4833
@sadikurrahman4833 3 жыл бұрын
@@luckyboy4766 That was more luck than on merit
@luckyboy4766
@luckyboy4766 3 жыл бұрын
@@sadikurrahman4833 Exactly same with Prost. He won because Mansell and Piquet lost points fighting each other and Mansell's tyre blew up when he was in title winning position.
@snesprime6339
@snesprime6339 3 жыл бұрын
Let‘s try to get Josh to 500k this year!
@FuddButter
@FuddButter 3 жыл бұрын
Im happy with this list. People who have never even seen Senna drive think he is a God cause of the internet. (Donut media's way too biased podcast about him didn't help) Prost was damn good!
@footballvslife2413
@footballvslife2413 Жыл бұрын
I wish I had witnessed the 80s live and not just through highlights...The 90s and up to 2012 were great years but the 80s was superb.
@jedlockett52
@jedlockett52 3 жыл бұрын
Tremendous video. In a very short time, you have become one of my favorites creators on KZbin. I remember watching Senna, Prost, Mansell and many of the others you mentioned while growing up in West Virginia. It was a really fun, invigorating time and I was blessed to enjoy it. Keep up the excellent work!
@mancunianace8428
@mancunianace8428 3 жыл бұрын
Prost every time for me. The most complete driver of his generation.
@a-12dhanwinmehta40
@a-12dhanwinmehta40 3 жыл бұрын
Very nice of you to include Gill Villnuve, Alberto and Arnuox also Pironi all of them are very often underrated
@dangerdean9066
@dangerdean9066 2 жыл бұрын
Favorite line of the Alboreto segment, "as well as Alain Prost being Alain Prost"
@thatonenigeriansformula
@thatonenigeriansformula 3 жыл бұрын
The transitions to the next driver are so smooth i dont notice them
@DjDolHaus86
@DjDolHaus86 3 жыл бұрын
I wanna hear more about this Gerald Burgers character
@aydankhaliq2967
@aydankhaliq2967 3 жыл бұрын
Berger is the most impressive pilot. He didn't do anything, yet he is still there winning a lot of money.
@theunusualtofu
@theunusualtofu 3 жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer Senna over Prost but since you were talking about the 80s only then I would understand. Sure there was Monaco 1984 and some of his iconic Victories during the 80s like in Monaco. Most of Senna’s best moments and reasons to why he was the best were in the 90s in my opinion.
@mgrzx3367
@mgrzx3367 3 жыл бұрын
I totally agree with this list. And Yes Prost was the GOAT!. Thank You for giving this man his due. Arigato. About ( expletive deleted) time. LIKED.
@twinturbo3470
@twinturbo3470 3 жыл бұрын
I love Senna but Ive always been a Prost guy when it came to the 2 of them........ How can you hate Prost?? If its because your opinion of him is base purely on the movie "Senna" then you need to do your research
@AMLuc1320
@AMLuc1320 3 жыл бұрын
Nice top 10 Josh. As an Aussie I was disappointed you left out Alan Jones!
@marstheplanet1406
@marstheplanet1406 3 жыл бұрын
Wait how is a champion Alan Jones honorable mention but Alberto is 7th. tf
@motorsportfan1246
@motorsportfan1246 3 жыл бұрын
Idk this list is ass imagine putting Alboreto over Villeneuve
@gigsawsoljier1408
@gigsawsoljier1408 3 жыл бұрын
because its the decade not a single season
@andrewmetcalfe9898
@andrewmetcalfe9898 3 жыл бұрын
@@gigsawsoljier1408 being rated the best driver in the first two years of the decade AND winning the championship puts Jones 5th or 6th for the decade overall. Piquet is rightly ranked 3rd, but how many times did he actually beat Jones for Pace and race craft (as opposed to reliability) in 1980 or 81? If Jones did not have that fuel pump issue in Monaco he would have won the title in 1981 as well. If he didn’t have the shits with the FAI and retired he would have won in 1982 as well. Coming back for a B-Grade team for a few years Wass a mistake though.
@dalejohnston3688
@dalejohnston3688 3 жыл бұрын
How can rosberg be in the top ten and Jones is not?
@p_aky3042
@p_aky3042 3 жыл бұрын
2010 - 2020 probably the most heated a video is gonna get, not statistically but just within the fans 😂😂
@tedioussugar384
@tedioussugar384 3 жыл бұрын
@Greg Drou Seb P2? Give me a break. P5 for Vettel, behind Hamilton, Alonso, Verstappen and Rosberg.
@eh3806
@eh3806 3 жыл бұрын
@@tedioussugar384 what drugs are you on?
@tedioussugar384
@tedioussugar384 3 жыл бұрын
@@eh3806 The kind where I can see that unlike Lewis, who has always been consistent, aggressive, and has had to fight not just teammates, but also rival drivers and still has lost and grown better from it, Seb was coaxed into a World Championship by an eager team when he didn’t really have a proper skill set yet, spun, crashed his teammate a lot, and had a title rival only lose by 3 points to him despite being in a dog of a Ferrari. He was incompetent, he didn’t win as much as he should have during Red Bull dominance, he had a teammate who had to bow down on all fours to him, and he never learned from his mistakes and crashes. Any time Vettel has had a teammate who actually fights him (Ricciardo, Leclerc, Stroll even?) he crumbles. Lewis dealt with the pressure of Nico, still lost, and is fully focused on beating Max.
@eh3806
@eh3806 3 жыл бұрын
@@tedioussugar384 oh you mean the season where Lewis’ McLaren was better than the Red Bull during half of pre season testing. Or the 2013 when Merc took 8 of 19 poles but only won three, and two of those were Nico. Or in 2007 were Lewis totally bottled it in the last two races in a cheating car that won the championship the next year. Don’t come at me with oh it didn’t effect 2008, it obviously did. That Ferarri information atleast some of it must have been retained and used in 2008 where may I remind you Massa list out because of a pitstop caused by Renault cheating. And still as you mentioned Lewis lost to Nico, Seb didn’t lose to Webber, it wasn’t like Mark moved out of the way for Seb, he wasn’t a Valterri, Turkey 2011 for an example. And you tell me that Seb should have won more. The fact that Alonso was second in that Ferrari whilst Kimi was third in a Lotus in 2011 just shows you how tight it was between the cars. You as a driver also play a vital role in making the car good and developing it. I don’t want to take anything away from Lewis and I am not that deluded that i think Lewis is worse than Seb, but I am also not deluded enough to think Seb with 4 world titles in the 2010s is worse than people like Alonso with zero championships in the 2010s or Rosberg and Verstappen who have only driven for half of the decade (those are especially bad). That argument with teammates is deluded, he outdrove a world champion in Kimi twice, he lost all his confidence in the toxic Ferarri workplace since Germany 2018 therefore Charles has performed better in the tractor that is the Ferarri. In 2014 he was moving to Ferarri but and was struggling to adapt to the new regulations just like Aston Martin this year. But i’ll give you the benefit of the dought and say that he ”crumbled under pressure from Ricciardo.” And the absolute worst thing you said is that he failed under pressure from Stroll, the season still has 19 more races, in 2013 you know the season that seb won the last 9, there was only 19. races in the season. To be able to win the last 9 races in 2013 (as i mentioned) plus 4 prior wins, to be able to win at Monza in a Toro Rosso or fighting from last to sixth in the last race of the season to win the championship is incredible and it shows that Seb is more than a driver. Numbers don’t lie, and neither does four championships. Feel free to embarass yourself more.
@p_aky3042
@p_aky3042 3 жыл бұрын
And here we are folks 😂😂
@harrisqamar326
@harrisqamar326 3 жыл бұрын
What was great about Prost was that he would always favour his setup for the race and not outright speed in qualifying. Many a driver would remark during the decade that after Prost qualified 4th or 5th fastest, they would worry that he had the car set it up perfectly for the race. Come race day morning warm up, they would look up the timesheets and see Prost in first and collectively groan, knowing the Frenchman had a great setup and would dominate the race, which he more often or not, did. An absolute legend. Even Niki Lauda realized how much quicker he was, hence why his last title was his best as he know Prost had his number at McLaren. While Senna was mercurially quick, Prost's race pace, I feel, was better overall due to his knowledge on optimizing the car setup.
@flojeron2013
@flojeron2013 3 жыл бұрын
Finally someone puts respect on Prost’s name
@rogeriomichieli2193
@rogeriomichieli2193 3 жыл бұрын
Very tough choice for #1!!! I would go with Senna (mostly 'cause I'm a fan of his and his racing style) instead of Prost. But I get the reason behind it. Top 4 was exactly what I expected. No decade was better than the 80's in F1 history. Great video!!!
@brianrichter409
@brianrichter409 3 жыл бұрын
Thank god Prost is #1
@ljummingen
@ljummingen 3 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate the mention of Stefan Johansson. Great driver
@gt5man21
@gt5man21 3 жыл бұрын
My Opinions of best drivers in each decade. 1950s: Juan Manuel Fangio 1960s: Jim Clark 1970s: Niki Lauda 1980s: Alain Prost 1990s: Ayrton Senna 2000s: Michael Schumacher 2010s: Lewis Hamilton 2020s: ATM Lewis Hamilton but we still have this year and 8 more years after that.... let's see what happens after 2029.
@luckyboy4766
@luckyboy4766 3 жыл бұрын
I'd put Schumacher best of 90s due to Senna's death which meant he only raced 4 seasons compared to 8 for Schumacher.
@TeamOT
@TeamOT 3 жыл бұрын
RIP Gilles. Btw, the racetrack that hosts the current Canadian GP is named after him. I'm surprised how little this is mentioned when Villeneuve is brought up.
@marcuswardle2425
@marcuswardle2425 3 жыл бұрын
I'm liking the thumbnail josh
@brendanbrown3100
@brendanbrown3100 Жыл бұрын
No way was Mansell better than Lauda in the 80s. The 86/87 Williams was so good. Prost, Senna or Lauda would have easily won titles in it.
@arthurcorassini
@arthurcorassini 3 жыл бұрын
Piquet has just a weird sense of humor, he isn't remembered very gently here only because media had something against him since day one and after that...well he just played with it, he has a lot of respect for Mansell, he just knew that at the time, the only way he could win the title against a british driver in a british team was with mind game, so he pushed Mansell to the edge. He is a genius, capable of overcoming his equipment and his teammates, he won 3 championships with three different engines and is still to this day the only Schumacher teammate to finish in front of him in the championships standings. He is the kind of underdog hero, wich will overcome the difficulties and use his strategy to grab the title, then poke fun at you because..why not😂
@guanjun1178
@guanjun1178 2 жыл бұрын
Piquet was my favourite. Still is.
@rupertpupkin9630
@rupertpupkin9630 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty good list, no argument with the top 4. Rosberg and Villeneuve should be ahead of Berger and Alboreto though. Obviously Gilles' time in the 80s was very short but he was truly heroic in 1980/81. Same with Rosberg in his prime (1982-85). Their peaks were far greater than Gerhard and Michele.
@kekepiket9153
@kekepiket9153 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, Keke is underrated here
@GloopSerious-nt9dv
@GloopSerious-nt9dv 3 жыл бұрын
I am violently into your theory that Alain Prost was indeed the best driver of the decade, and better than Senna. At least I did witness those races.
@klausledda5903
@klausledda5903 3 жыл бұрын
for me elio de angelis, manfred winkelhock and stefan bellof were the best drivers on that era but so sad that they were gone too soon
@shaunlevin5081
@shaunlevin5081 3 жыл бұрын
It unfortunate because I don't think Senna was ever the best driver of the decade because he never did complete one. If he was there for all of the 80s or 90s then I think he would be the best driver of those decades.
@streuthmonkey1
@streuthmonkey1 3 жыл бұрын
I do not like Prost but I would also put him as the top driver of the 1980s. Excelent transitions by the way.
@i0like0water
@i0like0water 3 жыл бұрын
Really appreciating the consistency mate
@liftoffyrn8337
@liftoffyrn8337 3 жыл бұрын
I just cannot get over how good your transitions are
@mikesuarez9615
@mikesuarez9615 3 жыл бұрын
I can already feel the tension
@nimira43
@nimira43 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Hard to disagree with your top ten but minds slightly different... 10 Alboreto 9 Berger 8 Lauda (based on the 80s alone) 7 Rosberg 6 Pironi 5 Villeneuve 4 Mansell 3 Piquet 2 Senna 1 Prost (better than Senna in the 80s)
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