Top 10 GODS - Who Tops the List? | The Elder Scrolls Podcast #6

[@FudgeMuppet]

Vote LORKHAN

[@christopherdove8914]

No worship for any gods without Lorkhan.

[@gigbotjohari3205]

Kirkbride claims Talos, and Hoonding are the strongest.

[@echofiend3722]

If Lorkhan or any god, dead or alive can take the form of a mortal, that is cool, and you must consider said mortals' actions in your ranking! Isnt the Player at some point an incarnation of him or something? Also couldnt help thinking: isnt it strange that you have Xarxes in here at all, when he got where he is and what he has from Hermaeus Mora, a DAEDRA. Daedra, defined by their separation from Aetherius. How could a Daedra ascend a mortal to Aetherius??? If anything he should be some guy who won a pocket realm of Oblivion for beating Hermie Mora's game. Or is he just a god because he is worshipped as such? Ive seen most of your videos, am i missing something?

[@JC-xz4ec]

Nah, lorkan isn't actively doing anything. That's basically saying a corpse is more interesting than the stuff happening around the corpse. He's not doing anything special, it's the entities around the corpse that are making things interesting...

[@christopherdove8914]

@@JC-xz4ec nothing would exist beyond atherius and oblivion if he didn't do what got him killed so he created(with help) a realm that to me seems like a whole 3rd of the universe

[@SaintVeloth]

Architect of the world and the font through which Magicka flows into the world: nah Cat thief who steals stuff: wellllllll.... Y'all did Magnus dirty 🤣

[@Eualia]

They really did.

[@tangomike2358]

indeed

[@hunterwpayne1]

They did Mannimarco dirty af too

[@xaoc6084]

@@hunterwpayne1 Yeah Mannimarco and Magnus were the two I was like what really, are you seriously going to discount them.

[@user-vm8ul3oh2l]

Scott seems the most seasoned and knowledgeable. I'd side with him in a journey.

[@OlympusPublicAffairs]

Drew and Michael: Mara's alright. Don't think she should be too high. Scott: Hear me out... *FAT MOTHER*

[@Tri6Oraxus]

Hear me out 4 FAT MOMMY MILKERS

[@thaddeushill7080]

It told me there was a reply here but there wasn't so now there is

[@therealpotsmoan593]

@@thaddeushill7080 it's youtube hiding disagreeable comments

[@lucasallard3703]

A cool topic could be ranking the dragon priests based on their lore/“coolness”

[@cartoonhistory353]

Coolest 😂😂

[@lucasallard3703]

Otar for the win

[@gptechnologiesmangalore6909]

Miraak is the best

[@Cpint]

Awesome idea

[@Daftcody]

Its the jailer

[@BryceGirdner]

Ranking Skyrim’s jarls, ranking houses of morrowind, ranking the counts of Cyrodiil, ranking the greatest mortals OR emperors, hypotheticals such as a second Great War, Skyrim civil war, etc.

[@StDomBz]

For Morrowind houses, obviously Telvanni would be #1

[@Ironislander4302]

@@StDomBz #hippityhoppityargoniansareproperty

[@josephpinkston9832]

Imagine if during the baan dar festival some khajiit just go into a bosmer town and chop down a tree like it's just a prank bro

[@KoffingOnion]

George Washington move right there

[@euankenobi3517]

Just walk in and eat a cabbage

[@varisugocsay1152]

@@euankenobi3517 So you chosen death. - Some Bosmer before they call for the Wild Hunt

[@insertnamehere1983]

@@varisugocsay1152 "wow this is a real nice cabbage..wait where'd all these beasts come from?"

[@CyberController-]

A breton nightblade An undead nordic king An imperial battlemage All living together in one big house! This week on ITV, tune in to the new hit sitcom: *Talos*

[@thalmoragent9344]

Wait, Drew is undead? 👀

[@SHDUStudios]

I would pay some good Septims to see that.

[@jakatak1832]

Talos the mighty! Talos the unerring! Talos the unassailable! To you we give praise! We are but maggots, writhing in the filth of our own corruption! While you have ascended from the dung of mortality, and now walk among the stars! But you were once man! Aye! And as man, you said, "Let me show you the power of Talos Stormcrown, born of the North, where my breath is long winter. I breathe now, in royalty, and reshape this land which is mine. I do this for you, Red Legions, for I love you." Aye, love. Love! Even as man, great Talos cherished us. For he saw in us, in each of us, the future of Skyrim! The future of Tamriel! And there it is, friends! The ugly truth! We are the children of man! Talos is the true god of man! Ascended from flesh, to rule the realm of spirit! The very idea is inconceivable to our Elven overlords! Sharing the heavens with us? With man? Ha! They can barely tolerate our presence on earth! Today, they take away your faith. But what of tomorrow? What then? Do the elves take your homes? Your businesses? Your children? Your very lives? And what does the Empire do? Nothing! Nay, worse than nothing! The Imperial machine enforces the will of the Thalmor! Against its own people! So rise up! Rise up, children of the Empire! Rise up, Stormcloaks! Embrace the word of mighty Talos, he who is both man and Divine! For we are the children of man! And we shall inherit both the heavens and the earth! And we, not the Elves or their toadies, will rule Skyrim! Forever! Terrible and powerful Talos! We, your unworthy servants, give praise! For only through your grace and benevolence may we truly reach enlightenment! And deserve our praise you do, for we are one! Ere you ascended and the Eight became Nine, you walked among us, great Talos, not as god, but as man! Trust in me, Whiterun! Trust in the words of Heimskr! For I am the chosen of Talos! I alone have been anointed by the Ninth to spread his holy word!

[@Angelo-nd4lg]

Skyrim belongs to the nords.

[@jjsouls6986]

Talos is gay

[@TheNarrator6020]

Proceeds to drag off in the night

[@Angelo-nd4lg]

@@jjsouls6986 your gods are gay you soul stealing sycophant. The 'Ideal masters' only ideal if you are gay. Good day sir, I said good day!

[@klobknocker6512]

JJ souls Talkin a lot of shit for some one in unrelenting force distance.

[@DjangoFatt]

Lorkhan is definitely my favorite god in general even compared to the daedric princes

[@jjsouls6986]

Dude hes def the best 1. He gave his life for us. Tricking the weak minded pussy gods to make our world. And makeing us

[@ki11j0y2]

I live the whole concept of a dead God and how even in death he still gets his way and still creates chaos and the god of men I've always been on the side of men over mer

[@BryceGirdner]

JJ souls I’m fucjing laughing my ass off. Thanks for the laugh mate

[@rokturi]

yeah, sure, but take in consideration that Trinimac literally was able to solo handedly RIP OUT Lorkhans' heart in a battle. Hmm....

[@DjangoFatt]

@@rokturi Lorkhan was fighting Auriel & his cronies which includes Trinimac

[@ki11j0y2]

Dagoth and the tribunal are not included Me: Cry's in dagothwave

[@jacobanderson8219]

Except they weren't true gods, just mortals leeching the power of a god from the Heart of Lorkhan.

[@verminjerky]

When they first posted about this, they only said the Tribunal was excluded and the Sixth House was coming out of the woodwork to dance to Dagothwave in the Tribunal Temple's faces. Not so funny now, is it? -dunks on the Sixth House Clockwork Apostle style-

[@verminjerky]

@@Observant213 Would very much agree with that. If you take out the idea of people who ascended to divinity, it sounded like the argument against them was that they like them too much.

[@AbaddonTheSlightlyConfused]

What a grand and intoxicating innocence

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@verminjerky True, I guess they knew their biases and decided to just toss them before they got too attached 😅

[@simonschenz3315]

It would be cool if you guys did a podcast about the elder scrolls... like the scrolls themselves

[@jjsouls6986]

Likr how? Hey these scrolls are old and powerful. Boom whole conversation. The rest is just crap they did

[@jjsouls6986]

@w c HAHAHA OMG

[@ThePompousAltmer]

@@jjsouls6986 there is more to them than that

[@thalmoragent9344]

The idea that the Elder Scrolls are blueprint Scrolls that Magnus used in Mundus' creation seems cool. Like, the Elder Scrolls, Staff and Eye of Magnus all being his Divine tools/Artifacts he used to fashion the 3rd Realm of the Aurbis

[@chrisppx]

Its the All-Maker, don’t let the propaganda of the Empire fool you! The Skald worship the true Tamerielic god!

[@siouxsieslime2985]

Praise the All-Maker

[@goodenoughright5433]

I mean if the All-Maker is in fact the Godhead your wrong...

[@wrathofthesage]

@@goodenoughright5433 you're*

[@goodenoughright5433]

@@wrathofthesage thank you Captain grammar

[@jjsouls6986]

The all maker and his son. Who died for our sins. They got it right

[@molagsballs]

You should rank the provences based on their geography and lore

[@vibes5805]

10: Black Marsh 1: Morrowind That's like it cjdhsbs

[@aurionblackfyre8480]

Might want to wait for the entire map to be done though

[@Mysterialic]

"What a fool you are, I'm a god." P.S. Drew's takes are my favourites.

[@Augustei]

One cool little tidbit about Lorkhan which wasn't mentioned (though its just a theory anyway) is that the doom drum is actually that drum beat you hear starting in The Elder Scrolls Theme from the past 3 games. Ever since I read that whenever I open up an Elder Scrolls game and the menu theme starts playing my first thought is "Lorkhan", he really is Nirn.

[@twinphalanx4465]

"This heart is the heart of the world"

[@flowgod524]

I'm gonna argue Lorkan isn't dead. You can't truly kill a daedra so why would an aedra be different. His heart still beats and he still has influence over the world. If his body parts were to be united he'd return to "life".

[@OgieSifter]

To me lorkhan is to namira how trinimac is to malacath, like lorkhan corrupted himself to achieve achieve a nre physical form. Like the void was the shell of his old self and namira is the new self whose realm is the corpse form of the old self

[@TheJLAMAR23]

The aedra gave up there the vast majority of their power in order to create the world. They are now bound by the rules of mundus where death is real. The daedra hold all their power and manifest aspirations of themselves in the mundus but are much weaker as they too are bound by its rules. So him being dead, is definitely plausible. The aedra themselves are more or less dormant and relying on prayer for strength.

[@twinphalanx4465]

You're standing on him. He is tamriel, his heart is it's heart.

[@brianroberts783]

As far as the Thu'um goes, my understanding was that Kyne gave the Nords the ability to use the voice, but Parthurnax taught them the ways they could use it.

[@thalmoragent9344]

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Kyne gifted them the capability to actually use it, and Parthurnax as a Dragon would teach them how to apply the Voice in the various ways, i agree with you on that.

[@noangles1564]

Maiq the god of lies, 4th wall, and random trivia. #1

[@jamiemckell34]

Aspect of Lorkhan?

[@insertnamehere1983]

Perhaps he's not lying, maybe he's achieved chim but has that lovecraftian "people who know of the secrets of the universe sound crazy to people who don't know" kind of thing, he's secretly trying to explain lore to you but everyone just thinks he's a liar

[@Cpint]

Feel a little let down that Julianos was basically kicked out from the outset, but I completely understand. Plus I'm a Mathematician so I might (perhaps...slightly) be a little biased lol. Great and interesting discussion as always my dudes, keep up the good work! Next topic: Rank the FudgeMuppet Loremasters (jk lol). Actual topic I'd vote for is ranking the Dragon Priests.

[@thalmoragent9344]

Well, guess the Nords also did the same to their aspect of him, sort of just less magic and stuff in their culture lead to him being tossed, bit it's true he was also one of Mathematics. What's his relationship like with Magnus? Like, is he just a replacement some have, or what? They have a video of him that they admit he's sort of dying out, but if you remember anything else on him, would be nice to have a discussion about him.

[@laser8389]

Charon (CARE-on,or CAR-on) is the boatman, Chiron is the centaur who trained heroes/did medicine.

[@ElectricOstrich]

Drew talking and reading about gods is the purest thing in the world.

[@thalmoragent9344]

I love his videos when he speaks of the Et'Ada and their stories/myths and deeds in the Dawn Era

[@loreshelter1149]

You’re killing me with these 12am uploads. I’m withering bro

[@FrostfireGaming1134]

Please.. bro.. stop.. he's withering bro

[@visperad541]

I love thinking about how Elder Scrolls started as a DnD game, which makes me think that Tiber Septim ascending to Talos was probably a player's character in the game and now he's one of the most known fantasy gods in the whole world

[@twinphalanx4465]

I'd bet FUCKING money

[@joedelao2090]

I think the biggest mistake you're making about Akatosh is the fact that he represents the mystic beginning, middle, and end of each cycle. Very much based on the Indian/Hindu mythology version. There is the creator ,Auriel, the preserver in Akatosh, and the destroyer Alduin. Each is the same being over all, but each has its aspect in each cycle. That over all besides the fact that he is the being of time and without him none of the other gods would have existed. None of the other gods realize themselves without him. I think over all he is definitely the number one God.

[@aaronyayger]

Well none of the other gods besides Lorkhan. He would have existed regardless.

[@conallomahoney9311]

Interesting , and im not really knowledgeable on this stuff, but shouldnt the defeat of alduin if he is an aspect of akatosh mess up time ? Alduin served a purpose in that theory you saif but now he is gone and there doesnt seem to be impact on that which leads me to believe he is his own thing

[@thalmoragent9344]

@@conallomahoney9311 Alduin says he's the first born of Akatosh, so it implies that it is indeed in the order of Auriel, then Akatosh, then Alduin, and remember, Alduin didn't do his job when he was supposed too. Instead of ending the Kalpa like he was supposed too, he wanted to not end the world so quickly, and instead opted to be worshipped as a God, above his human slaves, until he was tossed through time, allowing for the Kalpa to keep going. Alduin took it upon himself to alter his duties, and the Humans took it upon themselves to stop him. They basically just extended the Kalpa 😅

[@Glowerer]

@@aaronyayger Lorkhan = Space Auri-el = Time

[@donovanfaust3227]

@@conallomahoney9311 you also don't absorb Alduin like you do every other dragon so he technically isn't gone at least his soul isn't.

[@obsidean1]

Scott I love you please let drew and Michael talk more. Always feels like you’re steering the conversation

[@ciaranmck4469]

he's the host and usually has the questions etc its drew mainly who doesnt speak much in these it's mostly Michael and scott

[@realzachfluke1]

ReAL passw0rd thot destroyer yeah the only one missing is Drew. We need more drew lol.

[@SultanFilm]

He does tend to take over, and directs the lists to favor what he likes when the others disagree with it.

[@Shadow666Deamon]

I've been watching these podcasts for my workouts and you do wonders keeping me entertained while I'm lying on the mats. Really love this format you guys made. Keep up the excellent work!

[@jennys4562]

1:22:52 I like how Drew and Michael "looked at each other" as Scott started talking about Auriel

[@chrishiggins2651]

Prediction: Michael will have The Hist ranked high

[@Augustei]

Y'ffre definitely belongs on the list, if anything Drew didn't sell him enough. Should have kept emphasizing how important he was in establishing the natural order of the world, The early chaos of the world was enough to break the Elnofey into two separate groups (Nowdays Men and Mer), It could have been even worse if Y'ffre didn't step in, now the guy is essentially responsible for the laws of nature and ecosystems. I've got him at 4 on my list

[@mrgreybrownin5039]

I love these podcasts and the chillness of it all.

[@jeffmassicott7186]

Love the podcast! A cool topic might be popular elder scrolls characters/monsters and their real world inspirations.

[@Musculargirl7685]

I always thought M'aiq the Liar was a god! How he appears in the Elder scrolls series and never gets old.

[@averyvonfrank3282]

Fun fact, M’aiq is not one Khajiit. It’s actually a line of Khajiit all named M’aiq the Liar. In Morrowind, for instance, he’s even a different breed of Khajiit than the ones in ESO, Skyrim, and Oblivion.

[@ciaranmck4469]

@@averyvonfrank3282 it's still not confirmed he could be immortal or something else

[@Musculargirl7685]

@@averyvonfrank3282 I did see him get attacked constently by a scavenger and not once die! He runs at super speed and doesn't seem to die when attacked mabe he is a God that just doesn't fight 🤔

[@EJDubbz]

They call me M’aiq the capper, but they should be calling me “sir”

[@invinciblemic]

Well, there's this one theory that he's actually Lorkhan wondering the world as per khajiiti myths about him.

[@aidenporter4795]

Love this series next week can’t come soon enough!

[@Lojeb44]

It is so funny watching Drew defend Xarxes to me because I have a Daedrologist playthrough and I use the Wintersun mod to have him worship Xarxes

[@FudgeMuppet]

Vote KYNE

[@michaelrobb9542]

Sorry Kyne your husband is cooler.

[@PrinceAlhorian]

No Sithis... You have just signed your own contract! Hail Sithis!

[@jamiemckell34]

Sithis is a representative of Anu & Padomay, the forces all gods play around in and the 'parents' of the gods. They are to the gods, what Nirn is to Mortals. However, super funny comment lol

[@chrispetersen4863]

Charon (Kare-on)... Though Tsun guarding the path to Sovngarde is more like Heimdall guarding the Asgard bridge.

[@MetalMilitia83]

Definitely keep this series going. It’s super nice to look forward to an hour break everyday with new elder scrolls information especially opinions on those things because so often elder scrolls lore videos are just here’s what the facts are end video.

[@KyletheTarotguy]

I don't think you can really argue that Lorkhan is boring or passive. He was born from Chaos or the Void. He created the entire world through trickery and seduction. He created humanity and led their primordial spirits in a cosmic war against the elves, then got his heart ripped out on top of a giant magic tower. His heart won't even die though. The gods throw it away, but it makes a volcano around itself. His corpse becomes two moons, his soul builds a realm of feasting, drinking, and battle for the Nords. The implication is that he is gathering warriors for some Ragnarök type of battle against the elven deities at the end of time, which is pretty mysterious and cool. While dead he still manages to send Shezarrines, avatars of his will that protect humanity in times of crisis. One of these avatars is Pelinal Whitestrake, a possible time traveling cyborg crusader with a ruby for a heart and a lust for killing elves. Even when he is passive, he's cool. His Heart can create living gods out of mortals, destroy whole races, or animate piles of volcanic ash and rock into the crude approximation of a man (Dragonborn DLC). His relationships to the other deities and even mortals is always very interesting. He wars against Auriel and the elves. Boethia punished Trinimac partly for speaking against Lorkhan, which creates orcs. Kyne or Khenarthi weeps when he dies, and rain is created. Namira either corrupted his heart or made a deal with him at the dawn of time. The ancient Khajit said that he died in the arms of Azura. The corruption in his heart became the Moon beast, Boethia wears his death shroud, and his "true spirit" is out there somewhere. Briarhearts rip their hearts out of their chests in a ritual dedicated to him. There is just so much going on here, it's hard to say he's boring amongst the gods.

[@radio_junkie7311]

Last time I was this early talos was still the emperor Last time I was this early fudge Muppet was still doing twitch.

[@aysseralwan]

Here's my Top 10: 1. Lorkhan/Shor 2. Kyne/Kynareth 3. Akatosh/Auri-El 4. Stendarr 5. Trinimac 6. Tsun 7. Talos 8. Ebonarm 9. Julianos/Jhunal 10. Mara

[@ciaranmck4469]

whys tsun there😂

[@aysseralwan]

@@ciaranmck4469 Idk I like that he's a bro to Shor and was so loyal he even died with him

[@kellyannecoll]

I can respect this list. julianos def deserves some love.

[@KrausHaus0]

I’d like to see a group of men/elves that worship Xarxes and Talos together

[@honkadonk4700]

Akatosh all the way baby! 🐲🐉

[@peterpierre9027]

Heck yea!

[@d.delgado4585]

I love your podcasts. Seriously, they are one of my favorite things now, and I'm watching this for the second time. Also, Drew, Y'ffre is awesome. You are so right.

[@georgejennings8743]

It would be cool to rank each race on their ability to be a mage/warrior/thief in the elder scrolls law. Like debating weather an orc on average is stronger than a Nord or red guard or something

[@thalmoragent9344]

Would we include the extinct races as well? Like the Aylieds or Falmer?

[@georgejennings8743]

@@thalmoragent9344 yeah that would be cool. I wonder if the Aylieds would make better mages than the high elves considering all the stuff to do with them trapping starlight and stuff

[@tevocity4673]

A cool topic would be ranking the different eras based on there significance/coolness

[@denakarganta1502]

Akatosh/Aka-Tusk/Alduin/Alkhosh/Ruptga/Auriel/Auri-el and Lorkhan/Shor/Shezzar/Sep are my favorite dirties in the elder scrolls due to the dichotomies they share along with both their antagonism and also friendship in some cases and the chaotic nature both share. For example, with the Time God's many interpretations and personalities and with Lorkhan's padomaic nature. Also with some Shezzarine were also blessed by the time god in a form, with Aka bestowing the dragonblood in some cases like with Hjalti and Wulfharth, or possibly with the Dovahkiin being both Shezzarine and obviously having Dragonblood with the Greybeards explicitly saying you are essentially serving Akatosh. Another example would be with Pelinal being a possible Shezzarine and also being blessed by Aka, calling out their shared madness and also considering the theory of him being from the future meaning the forces that brought him to the time of Alessia being forces of Time and Space, Aka and Lorkhan.

[@mad_mex0148]

Lorkhan is not passive,his activity is in all protagonists of the games.They were all shezareenes or his avatars.In Oblivion I always thought its cool that two guys who saved Tamriel were avatar of Akatosh (Martin Septim) and avatar of Lorkhan (Hero of Kvatch).Like idea of two avatars of gods who were kind of enemies working for the same purpose were always cool to me... p.s.I think he is the only one who knows that protagonists are his avatars.I think other gods are not even awere of that nor is player character

[@mistertaz94]

Yffre: I am the Y'ffre and I speak for the trees.

[@Leonidas-nu3jp]

Honestly their needs to be more Elder Scrolls books series like Warhammer to flush out the lore. Cyrodiil and Imperials really need a near complete retcon.

[@Kucoz]

Finally! My hours of binging your videos have paid off i love these deep lore discussions

[@badunius_code]

50:40 "he's my favorite God, but he's my number two" And Malacath is Boethiah's number two 😂

[@mark5222]

My top 5: 1. Auriel/Akatosh 2. Lorkhan/Shor 3. Y'ffre 4. Magnus 5. Mara The top four are kinda interchangeable because if one of them didn't participate in creating Mundus in one way or another, the creation would be a total failure. And I added Mara because there's no way you can go wrong with worshipping her.

[@chuckchuckerson5364]

Lol Scott defending Mara so hard, me no understand. "This is a list of who is the coolest, not most powerful", until power becomes the only part of the argument you can use to place your pick higher. Honestly though, please keep doing these, they are my favorite part of Sundays.

[@abiwonkenabi7027]

Yeah I think unfortunately some gods like Dibella were booted out simply because she isn't known for being powerful. I think overall their list was good though.

[@chuckchuckerson5364]

@@abiwonkenabi7027 No doubt, good list 😁

[@slurmsmckenzie1390]

"Let it be known i was fighting for women's rights!"- the god of simps lol

[@krabbychan8295]

Something cool to go over is The Special Powers that bend Universal Rules and Boundaries like The Thu’um,Sword-Singing,Tonal Architecture,etc.

[@kazeryu4834]

I think the Gods could be separated into two categories: Spectacle Gods and Functional Gods. A Spectacle God would be like Kyne which does cool things and Mara would be a functional God that holds society together, so how you would rank each God would revolve around which aspect is most appealing to you

[@Mary_Beth_Reimer]

Oddly enough, I usually play a Nord, even in Oblivion, but I tend to favor Arkay. I feel that Arkay is the god who makes sure souls move on to where they need to go. In Skyrim, I carry extra Amulets of Arkay that I place on various bodies that I find. For example, the lighthouse that the Falmor have broken into, I always leave an amulet with the bodies of the mom, son, & daughter. (I think those are the only bodies, right? I can't remember if we find the son. The whole event stands out for me though, I can't forget the first time I found that lighthouse.) I don't know if it would be appropriate to leave amulets with orcs, but I don't recall finding many orc bodies, but I would still leave one. I assume that Arkay would help the soul move on to Malacath. Same idea for Khajiit & Argonians. I do not leave amulets with necromancers. As a matter of fact, I soul-trap any necros I find alive! Nor do I leave them with Falmer, animals, trolls, etc.

[@zowdie6355]

Personally think that Dibella should have replaced Xarxes in number 10. :)

[@abiwonkenabi7027]

Yeah, I felt like they were dismissive of Dibella. Art and beauty are very important to culture and Dibella seems to be very influential on many mortals, with many direct followers.There is some untapped potential for some cool stories associated with her (A Brush with Death Quest is one such potential story associated with Dibella). On the other hand, I just don't know what kind of stories you have with Xarxes. He is kind of like Hermaeus Mora but not as creepy or interesting.

[@MatthewShute]

@@abiwonkenabi7027 Right. I get the impression that in any contest of knowledge, Xarxes would come a poor third after Hermaeus Mora and Jyggalag (whose library, before being burned, was said to contain a prediction of every detail of the world and of every action that would ever take place on Mundus or Oblivion before they happened). Dibella > Xarxes, definitely.

[@Person1................68]

Scott looks like a pre made Oblivion Character.

[@royalty843]

An imperial lol

[@Mzrmar]

Scott is difficult on these lists lol

[@lliamlee5702]

Drew you need to talk more! I appreciate how you listen you both the guys but you have good points as well. Say your wonderful ideas! ✊

[@obsidean1]

Drew basically didn’t get a word in for the first 15 minutes

[@XJonAye]

He never does honestly, I like all these guys and they make great content, but Scott talks over the other two, alot of times I don't think he means to, but it happens non the less

[@Vlugazoide]

@@XJonAye maybe it's simply their personalities...

[@XJonAye]

@@Vlugazoide yea I wasn't knocking Scott, i was just saying that he talks over them, it probably is his personality

[@DuskyPredator]

"The Nine Divine is boring. Daedra, they're never boring."

[@colechristensen4022]

Also I believe there is lore that the moons are Lorchan's body and I was surprised you guys didn't mention it I'm talking to you Drew. Also I would have put Magnus instead of Xarxes and switched Y'ffre and Stendar but other than that I think you guys did pretty good

[@abiwonkenabi7027]

If you go by Khajiit lore, the moons are their own entities, Jone and Jode. But I recall reading or hearing in Morrowind (the game) that the elves believe the moons are Lorkhan's body.

[@dahliasdarkside1695]

I feel similar to Scott that I'm mostly indifferent of the Aedra. I tend to gravitate to most of them based on their domain of worship then anything.

[@dylanmcbride6768]

The Greek ferryman was called Charon if I recall

[@danieldennehy3578]

I don't know much about the Hist, and lore-wise they aren't as fleshed out as other gods, but the Hist seems extremely interesting and the entire culture of the Argonians is alien in a good way.

[@chaoticnart9922]

I can’t decide between Lorkhan and Kyne because they’re literally my favorite power couple in the Elder Scrolls series 😔❤️

[@BrandonTabin]

Do a deep dive into the various races of beastfolk of Tamriel, past and present, excluding the Argonians and Khajiit.

[@jonathanwyatt1082]

Lorkhan made #1. And thats all that matters

[@helixgamer8894]

Kyne is the best! i often roleplay as a valkyrie in her service in my playthroughs.

[@ffa2dramachick]

I didn't have audio up, but was watching when the topic turned to Dibella.... Seeing you all grin and blush simultaneously is hilarious!!!

[@JohnDoe-nq4du]

Magnus was my number one, mostly because he's the top guy of the Magna-Ge, and the Magna-Ge are my number one for the list of "things I wish would get more screen time in the games than they do, and would get covered in more depth". Lorcan was my number 2, because even if you do discount stuff other people did with his remains as not really being his doing, he *still* did more, and had a bigger impact on the setting, than all the others combined. How the hell did ebonarm and xarxes even make the top 20, let alone the top 10?

[@FrostfireGaming1134]

Blessings of Julianos upon ye

[@crandleberrysadie]

The ferryman is Charon.

[@realzachfluke1]

Drew is my goddamn HERO lol! I knew from the start that my weird, anti-mainstream opinions would be represented well enough thanks to Drew 😂 Also, I love Scott making sure that Mara gets her dues. She should’ve easily earned her spot, because she’s present in like every single pantheon across time, but Scott made sure she did. Rock on, bro 🤘 hahaha I really wish someone stood up for my main man, Zenithar though. I’d have cut Ebonarm for Zenithar. Aedra are barely seen on Tamriel, but Zenithar has appeared multiple times. He appeared to the Nerevarine in Morrowind as Jon Hawker, a poor Redguard trader who was being held captive by a Dunmer battlemage, who led a band of smugglers hiding out in the Nammu cave. If you went out of your way and helped Jon escape by offering him a Scroll of Divine Intervention, only _then_ would you be rewarded with artifacts belonging to Zenithar, along with the knowledge that you just met an avatar of one of the Nine Divines. He leaves the Nerevarine two of his Aedric artifacts, Zenithar’s Warning (a left glove) and Zenithar’s Wiles (a right glove). Oh yeah, and in Oblivion’s Knights of the Nine DLC, Zenithar is inextricably linked to Kynareth, who *did* get a nod on this list lol. One of the ghosts of the original Knights of the Nine, Sir Ralvas, will tell you this: "Of the original divines, Zenithar is thought to be the most in touch with the mortal realm. Some legends say that Zenithar has close ties to Kynareth, an idea that is supported by the manner in which the two gods' realms interact. Craftsmen devoted to Zenithar are able to create and profit from the materials provided by Kynareth's natural world. The two work in harmony -- the natural world providing for the craftsmen. One cannot revere Zenithar without acknowledging the power of Kynareth." But you know, I’m not upset or anything that Zenny-boy didn’t make it. Us Zenithar worshippers are still gonna live with the satisfaction that we’re living honest lives, while all you heathens dance around in the muck of sin 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@jamesn2830]

Scott is usually kind of dominating the conversations in these podcasts. I would personally like to hear more from Drew and Michael. Not that Scott doesn’t have interesting points to add, but I’d like to hear more from the others.

[@ciaranmck4469]

scott is like the host of the podcast that's why he talks so much he's the one that keeps the podcast rolling so it doesnt break down but tbh drew hardly speaks especially during the first 15 minutes

[@jamesn2830]

ReAL passw0rd thot destroyer yeah again, I hope my comment didn’t come off as if I don’t appreciate Scott’s insight and knowledge on TES bc he’s clearly well versed in it. I just think that a good improvement for future podcasts would be more speaking time from Drew and Michael because they’re also entertaining to listen to is all

[@SultanFilm]

@@ciaranmck4469 even if he is the host it doesn't mean to always interrupt them and try to always make the other two have to agree with what he likes.

[@ciaranmck4469]

@@SultanFilm it's called moving the podcast along Michael did it when scott put argonians in bottom tier and Michael was like demanding that they're higher

[@katiecool70]

Never understood the Stendaar love tbh

[@DjangoFatt]

It's the typical strong warrior with a code archetype that people gravitate to, me personally outside of Lorkhan I like the gods associated with the arcane, knowledge & mystique. That's why I like Hermaeus Mora as a daedric prince & figures like Julianos/Jhunal as an Aedra

[@Charles-jj2su]

My personal favorites are everyone in the Redguard pantheon. I LOVE how they take an elven view of things (further evidence of them being from a different kalpa IMO and also the elven view is the right one :p) Redguards best man race,

[@AnthonyJayFoxxx]

top 10 dark brotherhood assassins next? or dragon priests would be cool to

[@verminjerky]

Oh God yes. Voting right the freak now for Elam Drals, the noted assassin foodie.

[@joshuastrickland5264]

I didnt realize that they were ranking the gods' personalities at first. I often think of the gods by their spheres. Zenithar and Julianos are my favorite gods, but when it comes to personalities, their list makes more sense.

[@seanstacks3436]

I love this podcast! I can't wait to see what topic you guys pick next, keep up the awesome work, and thank you all

[@bastian_5975]

How dare you forget about Mystara! I have received her blessings MANY times throughout the course of Oblivion

[@vrananikola]

“Bro it’s a dragon” -Scott 😂

[@ryanobrien2383]

Hey Michael,Scott and drew love your lore videos there is always a spark of energy to them that only Australians have.

[@JohnDoe-nq4du]

The river styx ferryman is "Charon", and is pronounced "car on", like turning on your voice-activated automobile.

[@PapaNixcea]

Y’all should do something like this but with all the different vampire clans around tamerial

[@thejoaolobo2758]

This podcasts are getting spicyhahah like the imperial city arena fight between the fudge muppets lol

[@isthatwhatemptymeans8222]

Is it just me, or wasnt it a certain Dragon Aspect Deity that saved Tamriel from Mehrunes Dagon... more love for Akatosh!!!!

[@AGhostOfSorts]

Glad that Yffre and the bosmer are getting so much love in these podcasts. Lorkhan probably top for me and Yffre second.

[@DuskyPredator]

I wish Zenithar had more stuff, he has been the basis for some of my favourite character builds; a smith merchant.

[@Kaiserker]

My top five: 1. Kyne 2. Akatosh 3. Lorkhan 4. Talos 5. Magnus/Mannimarco tie

[@ciaranmck4469]

magnus and manimarco broooo get tf outta here

[@kellyannecoll]

as a fellow Magnus fan I can definitely get into this

[@mudcrabmenace8534]

You should do an Elder Scrolls 6 special and an episode on Thras, Yokuda and Pyandonea

[@ciaranmck4469]

not really enough stuff for a podcast especially thras

[@mudcrabmenace8534]

I feel all three combined would be enough, remember they could go into the Thrassian Plague

[@ciaranmck4469]

@@mudcrabmenace8534 for about 5 minutes k then

[@szkoaimieniateddyegofarmer7436]

I would love to See you ranking key characters from the elder scrolls games , for exemple, divath fyr, vivec, ulfric, etc

[@theinterspeciesreviewer7400]

I love these skyrim videos they make me think of the good old days staying up all night trying to lvl up my 7+ characters or just being random like stealing all the stuff in somebody's house in then dumping all of it right outside their door.

[@morrigankasa570]

My list with the ground rules in order of best to least best in the 10 is: Lorkhan, Mara, Talos, Dibella, Akatosh, Kynareth, Manimarco (if he can count) Zenithar (if Manimarco doesn't count), Yffrite (the forest Wood Elf god however it's spelled and if he can count), Ebonarm, Julianos. My top 10 if can count any other then Daedra or Tribunal or Dagoth Ur same order of best to least best of 10: Lorkhan, Sithis, Mara, Talos, Dibella, Akatosh, Manimarco, Kynareth, Yffrite, Ebonarm.

[@lotusroot4345]

We all know the true god of the elder scrolls, Todd Howard

[@mrflerd-mn1pu]

Yall should do a daedra lord video not like daedric princes but the daedra lords like Hollowjack

[@martinwestykristiansen7576]

I realize that this is not entirely what this video is about, but if memory serves you've touched upon the afterlife of various races before. The other day I came to think about the afterlife of the Dunmer. Where would they actually go? These days (as in post Skyrim), I reckon they'd go to whichever of the Reclamations that they might feel the closest to, since (as far as i know), they do not share a common realm for their worshippers to go to. But what about when they worshipped the Tribunal? What happened to the souls of the departed Dunmer back then, seeing as how Almsivi where not Gods in the traditional sense, but had rather usurped the powers of a long dead one, but where worshipped in much the same way that the Aedra and the Daedra are worshipped then and today. Just a little something to think about, which might be a fun thing to tackle at some point!!