Top 10 Romanticized Toxic Movie Couples

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@MsMojo
@MsMojo Жыл бұрын
Which couple do you think is the most toxic? Let us know below, and be sure to also check out our video of the Top 10 Most Surprising Movie Couples: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fYLGnaqnnqhrhc0
@mlpartclub412
@mlpartclub412 Жыл бұрын
Top 10 most romanticized toxic couples in cartoons, please? Stan and Francine Smith. (American Dad.)
@NiVi192
@NiVi192 Жыл бұрын
Well, you sure hit the nail on the head with Twilight and 50 Shades... That sh*t was full of wrong messages for young girls (and boys!), and I'm always glad I didn't bother reading or watching any of it as a teen. ... Just do all 10 dysfunctional tv show couples next because there sure have been a lot of those! 🙈 Mr. Big and Carrie from Sex and the City, Chuck and Blair from Gossip Girl, Olivia Pope and Jake Ballard from Scandal, Maddy and Nate from Euphoria, AND OF COURSE, Ross and Rachel from Friends! ... you know, just to name a few. 😉
@eugeniapatroncosta920
@eugeniapatroncosta920 Жыл бұрын
Jimmy Neutron and Cindy Vortex from the Jimmy Neutron franchises
@katien29101986
@katien29101986 Жыл бұрын
Heathers. Cant get more toxic than Veronica and JD. He kills people and then goes well i did it for you....
@Akaisha24
@Akaisha24 Жыл бұрын
Harley Quinn, was and is always a cautionary tale. The romanticism of their relationship is highly disturbing.
@kendracozier7478
@kendracozier7478 Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY
@DTD110865
@DTD110865 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. I'll say this though; Margot Robbie as Harley Quinn before the acid bath, is better looking than Harley Quinn from all the animated versions of Batman during her time as a psychiatrist.
@giggle_snort
@giggle_snort Жыл бұрын
@@DTD110865 Margot Robbie is insanely beautiful.
@DanGamingFan2406
@DanGamingFan2406 Жыл бұрын
The fact that there are people who still genuinely see The Joker and Harley Quinn's relationship as something to be romanticized is just wrong. No more "Puddin'", no more "Mista J", just do like HBO Max and forever ship her and Poison Ivy instead.
@roguejester4986
@roguejester4986 10 ай бұрын
Kinda find it funny and sweet at the same time that the most healthy relationship Harley has(via romance or friendship) is with someone who is literally toxic. Ivy's powers, I mean.
@andreabanuelosavila2317
@andreabanuelosavila2317 3 ай бұрын
Even in BTAS we could see how Harley was happy with Ivy, I wouldn’t be surprised if people shipped them back then too.
@sjn7688
@sjn7688 Жыл бұрын
How is the After franchise not on this list? Hardin and Tessa are one of the most toxic couples I've ever seen! Along with 365 days franchise.
@kausalyaboobalan5929
@kausalyaboobalan5929 Жыл бұрын
Righttt!?
@VictorianDemonica
@VictorianDemonica Жыл бұрын
Exactly!!! Say what you will about Bella and Edward, but one can just watch the films and laugh or cringe at the dialogue and it’s fine, or at least enjoy some aspects of the films. The Fifty Shades, 365, and After series all have one major thing in common - they are about a glorified toxic relationship believing they are being romantic.
@benjaminmurray455
@benjaminmurray455 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly 💯! That entire series is seriously dark. The relationship itself is painful to see and don't get me started on the emotional and psychological rollercoaster we were subjected to 😒
@scarswayne
@scarswayne Жыл бұрын
I was just about the ask this myself
@tigerlilly9038
@tigerlilly9038 Жыл бұрын
You'd have to acknowledge 365 Days as a movie....IT WAS NOT 😂😂😂😂
@dianeevans4060
@dianeevans4060 Жыл бұрын
A notable toxic movie couple is Andie Anderson and Benjamin Barry from “How to Lose a Guy in 10 Days” considering that relationship was founded on lying and manipulation, and how that relationship started out with both of them using the other to advance their respective careers.
@livvyb3583
@livvyb3583 Жыл бұрын
I dont think Jenny was a villain, I think she was a victim of circumstance and sexual abuse, Forrest even commenting from his perspective that her dad was always kissing and touching her and this led her to feel she wasn’t good enough to be loved which is why she hooked up with abusers in the show, got addicted to drugs and contemplated suicide. I think she felt she just wasn’t good enough to truly be loved.
@Rose-xy5pe
@Rose-xy5pe Жыл бұрын
Amen
@Jah_LEASE_yah
@Jah_LEASE_yah Жыл бұрын
EXACTLY! She thought she wasn't worthy of love, so she mistreated the only person who truly loved her.
@shannonslutzky4754
@shannonslutzky4754 Жыл бұрын
And I don’t think she purposely held off telling forest about his son…he started running right when she left and she told him right when he came back. He was running for years and there were no cellphones
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
@@Jah_LEASE_yah It's a miracle Forrest did not snapped her neck or raped her corpse in revenge
@BClarke
@BClarke Жыл бұрын
I agree. And even if it wasn’t the healthiest relationship, I’m not sure that adds up to a fault in the movie, as was said in the video. If nothing else, it reinforces Forrest’s unconditional love for her.
@analyzgolden7774
@analyzgolden7774 Жыл бұрын
I know it's just an honorable mention, but I disagree with Belle and the Beast being toxic. Belle chose to stay with the Beast to protect her father, and rather than treat her like a prisoner, he treats her like a guest at his castle, offering her a new room and a supper. When she refuses the supper, he lets her make her choice on her own call. Plus, if we're gonna discuss the anger issues, the Beast DOES improve on this as the film goes on, and it's only until after he's improved enough that she starts to fall for him and see him as a person. Then he willingly lets Belle go, seemingly dooming his own life, because she is more important than him, letting her have free will. Idk, allowing your partner to have free will even if it costs your own life doesn't sound like a toxic partner to me.
@mcgarrityharney6751
@mcgarrityharney6751 Жыл бұрын
I think you are correct, though it may have started out toxic, but Belle helps the Beast learn to love himself so that he is capable of letting her go before falling for her or being able to admit it
@brennaflaherty8871
@brennaflaherty8871 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, the youtuber Isacc carlson made a video for why Belle did make the right choice with the beast and in it he explained why she doesn't have stockholm syndrome.
@sandshew4158
@sandshew4158 Жыл бұрын
Film Theory explains this relationship regarding falling for her captor. She doesn't love him/realize she loves him until after she leaves. The staff even say that Belle has to love him back so spell isn't broken when she leaves
@Mai2727
@Mai2727 Жыл бұрын
I mean, he is her captor, even though she "chose" to be there. And the line "either she eats with me or she doesn't eat at all" is very abusive. He also throws stuff and yells at her. Yes, he does "improve" but it's still a bad message. Abusive people don't change.
@analyzgolden7774
@analyzgolden7774 Жыл бұрын
@@Mai2727 Sure, but he could've easily stopped the castle workers from tending to her at any time, but he didn't. And him changing is kinda the whole point of the movie. The Beast is a dramatically different person at the beginning and the end of the movie.
@jlerrickson
@jlerrickson Жыл бұрын
Say what you want about most of Jenny's behavior, but the misunderstanding that viewers have of two particular plot points continues to drive me crazy: A. Jenny didn't ignore Forrest's letters from Vietnam, she was a roaming hippie and didn't have a permanent address to receive them. B. Jenny couldn't have told Forrest about their child until Forrest stopped running and settled back at home. It wasn't cruel to not tell him, it was an impossibility, a direct mirror of the earlier Vietnam letter situation.
@Goomyx1492
@Goomyx1492 Жыл бұрын
It just shows the general lack of basic competency most movie watchers have.
@exmrsnowwomanscorned8369
@exmrsnowwomanscorned8369 Жыл бұрын
😢
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
Tell that to children who easily romanticize crap as well as Latinos who spit on Jenny and just refuse to live with excuses
@chantanellechaninava9628
@chantanellechaninava9628 Жыл бұрын
OMG THANK YOU for putting the notebook on this list. The way the relationship started always particularly bothered me, but overall I thought their relationship was toxic AF.
@DivinaM1105
@DivinaM1105 Жыл бұрын
The book is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. A great read if you enjoy reading
@VJAllison1974
@VJAllison1974 Жыл бұрын
I saw it, and didn't like it very much. The ending make me throw up in my mouth.
@giggle_snort
@giggle_snort Жыл бұрын
I have yet to see a healthy relationship in any movie based on a Nicholas Sparks novel. And the Notebook is _terrible._
@VJAllison1974
@VJAllison1974 Жыл бұрын
@@giggle_snort Understatement on all counts.
@DTD110865
@DTD110865 Жыл бұрын
I am so glad Grease is on this list. I know that social pressure and rigid cliquish conformity is what makes their relationship so toxic, but that doesn't make it any less annoying.
@annbsirius1703
@annbsirius1703 Жыл бұрын
I disagree about Cher and Josh. They were step siblings for probably a couple of years in the past and clearly didn't have a close relationship then, and he's maybe 19 to her 16. I still think they're adorable.
@byMidnyt
@byMidnyt Жыл бұрын
I have a problem with this one because it pushes an idea that family feelings can be insta-created by marriage (and that divorce doesn't dissolve that connection). The fact is, their parents had an LA marriage and the two children never saw themselves as siblings nor did they have a sibling bond. Feelings cannot be created nor destroyed by a piece of paper. And seriously, the age gap? So they were an 11 yo girl and a 13-14 yer old boy. They wouldn't have had anything to do with each other when their parents were married. They likely had no interests or friends in common. Their "age gap" might get some side eye in the Bible belt, but in LA? Seriously? People really have no clue.
@carriekawa7888
@carriekawa7888 Жыл бұрын
Agreed , Josh has always been respectful towards Cher and he has a great relationship with the dad.
@Quarktehduck
@Quarktehduck Жыл бұрын
Yeah I’m pretty sure it’s mentioned that he’s a freshman, so the age gap is three years max. It’s really not concerning.
@smithsunleashed
@smithsunleashed Жыл бұрын
Na it's kinda weird to me. Y'all are step siblings. Just imagine if the parents had a kid and then it would literally be their sibling plus these two in a relationship and probably could get married. Ew
@Stephanie_Ella
@Stephanie_Ella Жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a sequel where they’re married with children.
@aurorainblues
@aurorainblues Жыл бұрын
Referring to Beauty and the Beast simply as toxic is reductive and ignores the heart of the story. The whole point is transformation. In the beginning there was no relationship. He was her captor. She didn't choose to be there. He didn't really want her there. There was no relationship. Then they lived together, interacted, and there is a redemption arc for Beast that is the point of the whole story. They only truly have a relationship that is romantic toward the end, when Beast no longer is the person she met at first. It would have been toxic if they were romantic from the start, but they weren't. They became romantic as Beast evolved. You can argue that his mistreatment of her in the beginning defines the relationship, but then you are assuming that a person who was once toxic will always remain so, and there is no hope for redemption. Seems kind of prejudiced. Beast is a work in progress, and is a lot more human and redeemable - he is actively striving to be better, than most fairy tale heroes, and a lot of people.
@yoanastoyanova
@yoanastoyanova Жыл бұрын
In real life, toxic men rarely change. And I'm being generous with my phrasing. So why target little girls with a story like that?
@aurorainblues
@aurorainblues Жыл бұрын
@@yoanastoyanova I don't see that that is the message at all. First off, back in the 1700s when the fairy tale came out the message was of beauty only being skin deep, and people being able to learn and change. They were not "targeting" anything beyond promoting a message of looking beneath the surface and tolerance. Focusing on the toxicity of the relationship (a relationship that did not exist until AFTER Beast evolves) is ignoring the message of redemption, which is an integral part of the movie. In fact, it promotes an outlook that is the antithesis of the intended message, stating that "people don't change", and especially "bad people don't change". Even if this were so, they only kiss after he has gone through the arc. In the beginning he imprisons her, but in the end he lets her go and is willing to sacrifice his own interest - in fact, his own life, to let her do what she's got to do. How many abusive men/women will let their partners go, and give up their own chance for happiness (life in fact) to support the needs of the person he/she loves? I know abuse. In real life, the abuser begins with sonnets and roses and charm, and then devolves into a monster. The movie does the opposite of that. And again, I reiterate, they only have a de facto relationship at the end, after he has changed. If she were pining for him while he is an awful person, then yeah, that would be a serious problem, but it's not what happens - she only falls for him as he becomes a better man. Not saying that people should stay in a toxic relationships on the off chance that their partner may change, but I don't see that as the case in the movie - she doesn’t want to stay in a toxic relationship and only falls for him when the relationships is no longer toxic. The issue of redemption and looking beyond the surface is still the main message for me. I find Snow White and Sleeping Beauty much more dangerous in terms of messaging than Beauty and the Beast.
@Marjanne0031
@Marjanne0031 Жыл бұрын
​@@aurorainbluesyou are right, but that's not the point. The point is that by showing little girls a movie about a woman, Belle, getting imprisoned and abused (held captive, yelled at, etc.) but later changes the guy and falls in love with him, presents the message that abusive people are actually able to change. So yes, she only falls in love with the 'new version' of him, which is a much better version. But many movies and series romanticize abusive guys changing because of a girl (Chuck Bass in Gossip Girl, for example). The thing is: this is not how real life works. It is very rare that a bad boy actually turns good because of a girl, and sending the message that that can happen, could result in girls ending up trapped in a relationship with someone who treats him bad but they still hope the guy will change. I think that is the point the previous comment was trying to make.
@TheBklynMe
@TheBklynMe Жыл бұрын
@@Marjanne0031 well said!
@starrsmith3810
@starrsmith3810 10 ай бұрын
@@Marjanne0031 “Changes the guy” Stop right there because Belle didn’t do a single damn thing to change him. Not one. He did that himself.
@animeinuyashakagome
@animeinuyashakagome Жыл бұрын
Thank you to have put Romeo and Juliet there!!! Actually that was the point of the play. It is why they act very stupid during the whole play. It was Shakespeare’s goal to write them that way. Shakespeare’s intention was to criticize teenagers and their impulsivity. That’s why he wrote the play! It was never a love story at all.
@robernardini
@robernardini Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same. Also, tragedy and toxicity in relationships is his forte, he loves that. It's always on pourpose
@DivinaM1105
@DivinaM1105 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!! I will never forget when I commented in front of my ex mother in law I did not care for Romeo and Juliet and her response was that's because you are naive ...yah ok
@animeinuyashakagome
@animeinuyashakagome Жыл бұрын
@@robernardini I commented on an other comment about that and someone said to me that I’m making things up… I try to resonate with that person and they keep telling me that I’m just trolling, that there’s no evidence (when I gave that person plenty of evidences of their impulsivity)… 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ I really hope that this person has just watched the movies and has not studied the play to say things like that.
@moondivine2288
@moondivine2288 Жыл бұрын
You are right that it isn’t a love story but, a tragedy. But I don’t think Shakespeare’s goal was to criticize teenagers and their impulsivity. He had another goal one that I can guess at but, it is lost on us modern audiences. Teenagers wasn’t a concept back in the day. Romeo and Juliet’s family hated each other. Even the prince got fed up with it. Juliet’s parents were planning on marrying her off to Paris, a grown man. If anything if Romeo and Juliet were allowed to date normally they probably would have broken up later.
@giggle_snort
@giggle_snort Жыл бұрын
@@DivinaM1105 I'm sorry... she called _you_ naive for not liking a story about two hormonal teenagers being idiots, thinking they're in love when they barely know each other, and then _killing themselves_ when they can't be together? She thinks _you're_ the naive one? Ugh, I'm so glad she's your _ex_ MIL, because she sounds completely delusional. 😬
@Ori_Kohav
@Ori_Kohav Жыл бұрын
Dumbledore and Grindelwald, the Harry Potter series. Dumbledore regretted that relationship for the rest of his life, since it indirectly led to his sister’s death. That’s also why he refused every offer to be minister of magic.
@roguejester4986
@roguejester4986 10 ай бұрын
In the book, it does mention how Grindelwald felt guilty of it all while imprisoned. Not to mention refusing to give any information about Albus to Voldemort.
@Ori_Kohav
@Ori_Kohav 10 ай бұрын
@@roguejester4986 the films unfortunately didn’t do it any justice
@analidiatomaz5462
@analidiatomaz5462 Жыл бұрын
Noah: "Go out on a date with me or my death will haunt you for life." Who doesn't love a suicidal stalker?
@amourtabb7859
@amourtabb7859 Жыл бұрын
The way my mouth dropped open when this is the first like ten mins😂
@rachelmartin5187
@rachelmartin5187 Жыл бұрын
That movie really did a disservice to the book. In the book, Allie and Noah are more stable and actually talk through their differences instead of screaming at each other like a couple of banshees.
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
Even Joseph Gordon Levitt thinks that Tom tends to be overly romanticised, and that his actions were meant to come across as selfish, not romantic. He tries to mould Summer into his own perfect dream girl, and it's not until she breaks up with him that he sees her as an actual person.
@josefk7437
@josefk7437 Жыл бұрын
Was Tom ever meant to be romanticized? I thought the point of the movie was to be a deconstruction of the toxic romances in most movies. I liked the movie a lot because of how open ended it was. We are left to imagine if Tom ever learned anything with Autumn.
@kathrynmos263
@kathrynmos263 Жыл бұрын
I was in a film course with all men discussing this movie and every single one of them missed this point entirely and hated Summer.
@quaryn
@quaryn Жыл бұрын
I tried to watch it, and his extreme misogyny meant that I noped out after about twenty minutes.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
@@josefk7437 Almost no one took decostruction seriously until it was too late
@roguejester4986
@roguejester4986 10 ай бұрын
At least he moves on in the end.. Not much but it is some improvement.
@kathrynmos263
@kathrynmos263 Жыл бұрын
Maturing is realizing Summer did nothing wrong. Tom idealized her and she was pretty clear with her boundaries from the jump.
@andrewsmith74
@andrewsmith74 Жыл бұрын
She changes her boundaries very quickly after ending the relationship. She insists she doesn't do love, then falls in love.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
In hindsight maybe Tom deserved to have his views deconstructed to see what happens because too much idealism can rot your brain and soul
@Baby-oh4xq
@Baby-oh4xq Жыл бұрын
Also realizing that Tom and Autumn had more chemistry in the last few minutes of the film than he did with Summer throughout the whole film.
@unknownstranger6875
@unknownstranger6875 Жыл бұрын
Maturity is realizing that when a person loves you and you don’t feel the same, you leave that person alone. Both Tom and Summer were wrong. Tom should have believed her when she said she didn’t want a serious relationship and backed off. Summer should have left him alone, upon realizing he loved her. At one point Tom puts his foot down and leaves, after the bar fight. That would have been the perfect time for her to find someone else since she didn’t want him. Instead she chases after him; she calls, gets no answer so she goes looking for him in person. So she wasn’t exactly respecting boundaries and I can see why he thinks he has a chance. Not justifying his behavior because you cannot make someone love you. When someone keeps telling you they don’t want anything serious, believe them and walk away. Respect their decision and move on. The more mature take is the one in this video. Summer “did nothing wrong” is bs. Both were wrong.
@smithsunleashed
@smithsunleashed Жыл бұрын
​@@andrewsmith74that's bound to happen thou. Because she met her person. And Tom wasn't it
@joshmontemayor1212
@joshmontemayor1212 Жыл бұрын
Came here to see if Hermione & Ron from the Harry Potter movies make it onto the list. They may fight like cats & dogs, but they're still soulmates.
@omalleycaboose5937
@omalleycaboose5937 Жыл бұрын
My grandparents were exactly like that it's cute, not toxic
@darcya7089
@darcya7089 Жыл бұрын
​@@omalleycaboose5937 sounds toxic and exhausting to me.
@briannastultz6924
@briannastultz6924 Жыл бұрын
Ron and Hermione are toxic. JK has admitted that she regrets pairing them.
@omalleycaboose5937
@omalleycaboose5937 Жыл бұрын
@@briannastultz6924 JK said a lot of stupid things after the books were done
@inkeriananas
@inkeriananas Жыл бұрын
​@@briannastultz6924 JKR never said that. She said "I wrote the Hermione/Ron relationship as a form of wish fulfillment. That's how it was conceived, really. For reasons that have very little to do with literature and far more to do with me clinging to the plot as I first imagined it, Hermione ended up with Ron." And also "Oh, maybe she and Ron will be alright with a bit of counseling, you know. I wonder what happens at wizard marriage counseling? They'll probably be fine. He needs to work on his self-esteem issues and she needs to work on being a little less critical."
@venomgames1077
@venomgames1077 Жыл бұрын
I'd toss Anakin Skywalker and Padme into the list somewhere, especially from Anakin's side of things. He might've loved her originally, but he quickly turned possessive and murdered thousands to save her for himself.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
Maybe it would have been better if Anakin died instead of Padme to ensure she was no longer useless
@amourtabb7859
@amourtabb7859 Жыл бұрын
Right. He literally choked his pregnant wife. Then the dr like she died of a broken heart maybe it was strangulation.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
@@amourtabb7859 Maybe his breakdown was so huge he left her windpipe way too damaged
@catherinewilliams9680
@catherinewilliams9680 Жыл бұрын
#6 I beg to differ. Danny changes himself to impress Sandy after she lets him know she prefers a jock ( a young Lorenzo Lamas)
@chelseacanales8763
@chelseacanales8763 Жыл бұрын
For the record, The Notebook is completely different in the book; Noah doesn’t ask Allie out constantly Overall, Romeo and Juliet is better in script of Shakespeare than making a movie about it.
@Jah_LEASE_yah
@Jah_LEASE_yah Жыл бұрын
The script is not all that better. They meet, get engaged, get married all in the span of three days. If that isn't teen hormones run amuck, I don't know what is. The only movie that actually portrayed the absurd and problematic nature of their relationship is West Side Story the 2021 version.
@srkh8966
@srkh8966 Жыл бұрын
@@Jah_LEASE_yah They had to move quickly before Juliet was married to someone else
@Jah_LEASE_yah
@Jah_LEASE_yah Жыл бұрын
@@srkh8966 nah. She didn't know she was betrothed to Paris until after she had already married Romeo
@animeinuyashakagome
@animeinuyashakagome Жыл бұрын
Actually Shakespeare never even thought about Romeo and Juliet as a love story. He wrote it as a criticism of teenagers’s impulsivity. It was his way of making fun of teenagers. It was his intention to write them as a toxic couple. That’s why both Romeo and Juliet are acting stupid and that’s the whole point of the play.
@georgeray1906
@georgeray1906 Жыл бұрын
​@@animeinuyashakagomeYeah if anything Romeo and Juliet is a cautionary tale of teenage love.
@diegodubber2140
@diegodubber2140 Жыл бұрын
In all honesty, some rom-coms portrays relationships that are not exactly toxic, just a little problematic with the main couple having some issues they need to work out. But do you want to know, in my personal opinion, what is the single most toxic relationship I have ever seen in a movie, or other entertainment media, for that matter? Tessa and Hardin from the After movies. Tessa should just wake the hell up and dump that toxic, manipulative asshat like yesterday's newspaper. Like, no, girl. Stop trying to change him. He's NOT worth it. Date someone else and move the hell on, for crying out loud! He spends all of the movies carrying flags redder than a lobster. Violent tantrums, manipulative behavior, a chronic liar, Tessa has to walk on eggshells with him... Just confirms to me that this is the epitome of a toxic relationship in movie/series media. They're so toxic, they're burning my nose hair! Okay, forgiveness, seeing good in everyone and all, but he just never changes. Tessa should just dump him for good, move on and not look back, he doesn't deserve her.
@laraduff4949
@laraduff4949 Жыл бұрын
Technically, Josh and Cher used to be step-siblings
@missredhood83
@missredhood83 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I was thinking when they came up
@robernardini
@robernardini Жыл бұрын
Also, the age gap isn't that big. It looks that way because she is in high school and he is in college
@smithsunleashed
@smithsunleashed Жыл бұрын
It's weird thou
@NiVi192
@NiVi192 Жыл бұрын
This is a courageous list with an important message, and I respect that you encourage us to reconsider some real fan-favorites. Some of these couple dynamics have in fact been romanticised creep shows, at least cringy and outdated. I so appreciate that you've included 50 Shades and Twilight!! 🙌🏽 That being said, I feel like you dramatized one or two relationships and/or put them out of context. For example, Forrest and Jenny are supposed to have a complicated love story with a lot of rejection on Jenny's part whenever her horrible childhood trauma clashes with Forrest's naive yet impressive emotional endurance. That's just a realistic depiction of an abused girl who has no idea how to handle honest, unconditional affection, let alone how to return the love she actually feels. Another point here is Shakespeare's Romeo & Juliet, whose relationship is a bit different in the original play, while the screen adaptation suffers notably from cringy directing choices and the lack of chemistry between Leo & Claire. ...But my biggest issue with this list is the dishonorable mention of Beauty and the Beast. The whole point of both the original Frwnxh fairytale and the Disney adaptation is that the supposed villain isn't actually a beast deep inside, which brave + smart Belle manages to unravels while falling in love with the true him. Besides, she comes to him by choice (to save her father), never develops any kind of dependent Stockholm syndrome, and even leaves the castle before the story's cathartic climax.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
In my headcannon Jenny met a therapist who not only rejects excuses but also made her see reason and ended her cowardice for good no matter the cost
@yoanastoyanova
@yoanastoyanova Жыл бұрын
Romeo and Juliet's relationship is exactly the same in the play, the film uses the play's text verbatim
@tigerlilly9038
@tigerlilly9038 Жыл бұрын
..in the original German tale...I do not think she went by choice but was bargained.....I will double check this..
@TeaCup1940
@TeaCup1940 11 ай бұрын
The original story is of French origin. She gets homesick and begs the Beast to let her visit her family. He agrees under the condition that she returns after 2 months. She returns voluntarily even if her brothers try to prevent her to, because she envisions the Beast dying.
@zachwalker522
@zachwalker522 Жыл бұрын
That was the whole point of 500 Days of Summer , Tom's misinterpretation of summer's actions and Summer allowing the "relationship" going as far as it did , resulting in mix signals it told us that in the beginning of the film
@umbraecrystalheart9345
@umbraecrystalheart9345 Жыл бұрын
words cannot describe how much i will stand by slander of twilight overall especially edward's and bella's "relationship" and i will never be caught supporting the fifty shades franchise because of how AWFUL it is in general
@wowjennawow
@wowjennawow Жыл бұрын
i misread that as “filthy shades” which works even better lmao
@umbraecrystalheart9345
@umbraecrystalheart9345 Жыл бұрын
@@wowjennawow that works too lmao
@VJAllison1974
@VJAllison1974 Жыл бұрын
A lot of us call it "Fifty Shades of"... Poop.... Twilight is just wrong.
@umbraecrystalheart9345
@umbraecrystalheart9345 Жыл бұрын
@@VJAllison1974 exactly!
@daffodilpie3896
@daffodilpie3896 Жыл бұрын
josh and Cher are ex step siblings. the relationship is absolutely not toxic.... It's a complicated relationship but not toxic. Firstly, bcz their parents hv divorced but Mel(CHER's dad) still loves josh as his son. Mel himself said that you divorce Wives not children and is still emotionally connected to josh but is not connected by law which reflects that Josh and cher hv every right to be in a relationship. Furthermore, throughout the movie,I could tell from Mel's gestures and expressions that he does want Cher and Josh to date. If you hvnt noticed that you hvnt watch Clueless carefully enough. I love clueless and hv watch the movie several times and can 100 % be sure that Josh and Cher's relationship is not toxic.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
What do you think about the age gap?? I ask this because one youtuber seems to have fanatical hatred to age gaps mostly commenting without any sense of honor
@juriartjom
@juriartjom Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised About Time isn't at least a dishonourable mention. As much as I love that film as a huge fan of Domhnall Gleeson, having the ability to go back in time to fix mistakes or dissatisfactions in his relationship makes him seem like the “perfect partner” for her but she doesn't have any idea about the flaws that had actually happened in the relationship.
@logiclight
@logiclight Жыл бұрын
I wonder how many good relationships I could have salvaged if I could have had a do-over. About Time doesn't belong on this list.
@jordanbowker97
@jordanbowker97 Жыл бұрын
I will admit that Bella and Edward's relationship isn't always the best, but with the age difference, yes he has been breathing for 100+ years but vampires are frozen at the age they were turned so he IS still 17 years old in every other way. And he never made Bella stay away from her family and friends, that was Bella's choice, she is the one that distanced herself from them. That is evident when the Cullen's leave and she isolates herself from everyone she knows. Edward wante her to stay human and have a real life, Bella was the one that chose to become a vampire of her own choice to stay with Edward, and he only agreed to do it if she married him. Plus he's been alone for his whole life, and he basically forgot how to be a human until he met Bella and she intrigued him. He didn't go about it the best way, but it also shows the immaturity with him in being 17, he's infatuated and doesn't know what to do about it.
@rubygracemoseley8144
@rubygracemoseley8144 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I agree. I absolutely love Twilight but the main love triangle is my least favorite part of the story 😂 Edward gives Bella countless chances to leave him but she doesn’t want to. He is also stuck as a 17 year old guy who has been single for over a century so he probably doesn’t know 1. How to act in a romantic relationship and 2. He’s stuck as an immature, emo kid who doesn’t probably understand his romantic feelings. Again I think the whole Edward/Bella/Jacob thing is crazy and over dramatic and I like Twilight much more for the other relationships in the series (Edward’s family, Sue and Charlie) But I do have a little grave for how weird Edward and Bella’s relationship is
@calicokaels
@calicokaels Жыл бұрын
Look, I love Twilight with all my heart (seriously- it's my comfort series), but I 100% agree with it being on this list. Sure there are plenty of explanations on why each character acted in the way they did. But at the end of the day, when you strip it down, it should not be the type of relationship people should yearn for. He was controlling, had a habit of gaslighting her, and straight up stalked her. She was extremely codependent. It was not a healthy relationship at the end of the day.
@knightwolf9863
@knightwolf9863 Жыл бұрын
What?! Belle & The Beast? Toxic?! First of all, she sacrificed everything just so her father could be set free, which The Beast agreed to. Second, it’s true The Beast does have a temper but after years being cooped up in his castle with nothing to do except feel shame, guilt and self-hate for his past actions, can you blame him. On that note, he did told Belle not to go into the West Wing. Lastly, he saved Belle from the wolves, and in turn she brought him back to the castle when she could’ve escaped and left him to die from his wounds. After that, their relationship grew stronger and more intimate. So, who among you on the internet and MsMojo dare to say that this relationship was toxic?!
@brennaflaherty8871
@brennaflaherty8871 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and people say she had stockholm syndrome but the youtuber Isacc carlson made a video for why Belle did make the right choice with the beast and in it he explained and made great points on why she doesn't have stockholm syndrome.
@victoriafrost5461
@victoriafrost5461 Жыл бұрын
​@@brennaflaherty8871 Yes! I heard that Belle didn't have Stockholm syndrome through Cinema Therapy. A couple other points was that the beast allowed her to leave instead of keeping her hostage and she cared more about the beast as a friend during her time as prisoner.
@lindevoskamp4948
@lindevoskamp4948 Жыл бұрын
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the FBI researched hostage taking situations and found that there are at least 3 factors necessary for Stockholm Syndrome to develop. One of them was that the hostage is not placed in a seperate room. Belle literally gets her own room and he sends servants to help her which limits their contact even more. That is on top of the other reasons such as Belle leaving once she can and her only returning to prevent a- to her- unjustified murder.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
@@lindevoskamp4948 If true then the FBI might have inadvertedly said exactly what Cinema Therapy said
@chelsiereid138
@chelsiereid138 Жыл бұрын
I’m finally so glad that someone sees what I mean about Greece. This movie made me so sad when I watched it.
@jedhawkins1769
@jedhawkins1769 Жыл бұрын
Hey, most couples aren't sugarcoated like stupid, cheesy rom-coms, and that's okay. Because these couples are relatable because of trial and error, and they learned from their mistakes. Despite their immaturity and flaws, love does conquer all.
@mariehernandez5878
@mariehernandez5878 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking that was kind of the point in Love Actually. Love isn't perfect. It keeps trying and can be found in various ways,
@jessicamanson2196
@jessicamanson2196 6 ай бұрын
It’s not okay when those toxic relationships are portrayed as healthy.
@quaryn
@quaryn Жыл бұрын
THANK YOU so much for making this video!
@Jah_LEASE_yah
@Jah_LEASE_yah Жыл бұрын
Anyone who thinks that the movie Shallow Hall is fatphobic didn't get the point. All of the people in the movie who tell offensive fatphobic jokes are assholes. They are the villains in the movie. That is the point. The people in the movie who don't fit the mold of conventional beauty are all the kindest, most loving, fun, awesome and best people. The message of the movie is that Rosemary is awesome and beautiful at any size. The plot of Forest Gump is also deeply misunderstood in this video. It's not that Jenny doesn't love Forest. She doesn't think that she is worthy of love. That is why she mistreated him for so long. It wasn't until she knew she was dying that she realized how much time she wasted running away from true love. And another thing! (Third edit in the span of me watching this video) You cannot tell me that Cher and Josh weren't perfect. Their age gap wasn't that big. He was a freshman in college. No more the 18 or 19 and she was 16. Even the law would say that gap is not a problem. The fact that they USED to be step siblings for like a month shouldn't matter when it comes to a pair so perfect. LOL
@lisamariealaniz7538
@lisamariealaniz7538 Жыл бұрын
Totally 💯 all the people in the movie 🍿🎥 that are judged for being different because of weight or disabilities or burnt in a fire whatever reason are beautiful human being inside and outside good kindest people with big hearts in the movie 🍿🎥 good message
@Jah_LEASE_yah
@Jah_LEASE_yah Жыл бұрын
@@lisamariealaniz7538 Exactly. The point of the movie is to teach the audience that they could be missing out on knowing someone awesome because they are judging them from their outward appearance.
@lisamariealaniz7538
@lisamariealaniz7538 Жыл бұрын
@@Jah_LEASE_yah exactly 💯 truth Thank u I got that message I don't know why other people dont get that message!!
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
@@lisamariealaniz7538 What would you say to those who insist that Forrest was a mere dildo that Jenny will discard??
@Buffy8Fan
@Buffy8Fan Жыл бұрын
I disagree with #'s 6, 4 & Honorable Mention Beauty and the Beast. Sandy & Danny and Beast & Belle started off toxic and were willing to change themselves for one another, while Jenny couldn't be healthy for Forest until she loved herself and she couldn't do that until she dealt with her past, which she did. All three couples have different issues but go through the same needing to change to be with who they love story. And when it comes to #1, it is and was always meant to be a cautionary tale. In no way have I ever seen it romanticized in viewers eyes. Only in Harley's eyes and she's even wised up to show the side of realization in said cautionary tale.
@unknownstranger6875
@unknownstranger6875 Жыл бұрын
Teenagers tend to romanticize the Joker and Harley. Most of them have only seen the movie, and they cannot see the red flags because they are not as obvious as the ones in the comics and animated series. They were toxic even in Suicide Squad though.
@scottbuckley823
@scottbuckley823 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if this counts but Bonnie and Clyde killed 13 people and people act they're folk heroes.
@cheyennecedeno6867
@cheyennecedeno6867 Жыл бұрын
Okay interesting concepts on all these movies. (not familiar with nearly all of them at that) 1991 Beauty and The Beast I completely wholeheartedly DISAGREE with. It wasn't Stockholm Syndrome, she took her father's place to protect him. Belle helped Adam change for his better, to be better for her. Belle only realizes her friend is more to her as he dies in her arms.
@ApolloDragon
@ApolloDragon Жыл бұрын
As soon I saw Romero and Juliet i said "thanks you" been saying I for years their relationship was toxic. Edward and Bella, Harley Quinn and Joker and finally Christian Gray and Anastasia are type of relationships you should never want be in.
@MrEasyNah
@MrEasyNah Жыл бұрын
As a collective, we've learned better than to romanticize Mistah J and Harley, right? Right??
@LeonardoKlotz
@LeonardoKlotz Жыл бұрын
I feel bad for those that watch this kind of stuff and think this is how a relationship works in real life
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
Agreed, especially young, impressionable viewers. My eight year old cousin loves "The Kissing Booth", and doesn't realise that Elle and Noah's relationship is NOT ideal in real life.
@frankieseward8667
@frankieseward8667 Жыл бұрын
​@@trinaq 8 year olds are young and impressionable. If he was 24 I'd be worried.
@BPJD2004
@BPJD2004 Жыл бұрын
I completely disagree with the Beauty and The Beast one. She stays in the castle to protect her father, and although they started off wrong, she doesn't fall in love with him until he begins to truly change himself. Also, notice that the Beast never lays a hand on her the entire movie, until he lets her help him after the wolf attack. This is not Stockholm Syndrome, and you people who still think it is are seriously messed up because they have one of the most realistic romances ever seen in a Disney movie.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
This coming from a person who never agreed with Disney's film methods to begin with but I agree
@darious.m
@darious.m Жыл бұрын
The couples from Sleepless in Seattle and You’ve Got Mail should at least be honorable mentions
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
Even when I saw "The Notebook" as a preteen, I never thought that Allie and Noah's relationship was romantic. He asks her out when she's on a date with someone else, doesn't take no for an answer when she makes it clear that she's not interested, and threatens that he'll harm himself if she continues to refuse him. He obviously doesn't care if he traumatises her, yet we're clearly supposed to think that it's "Romantic."
@unknownstranger6875
@unknownstranger6875 Жыл бұрын
Yeah and him writing to her everyday is obsessive and creepy, not romantic. Her cheating on Lon was also horrible. She should have just left him if she didn’t want him. Lon was such a sweetheart, it sends the wrong message; her leaving the sweet, healthy, kind man for the manipulative, obsessed man she constantly argues with.
@Mohico-San
@Mohico-San Жыл бұрын
I was shocked to see Belle and Adam on the list.
@nazimovab3549
@nazimovab3549 Жыл бұрын
Glad to see "Forrest Gump" and "The Twilight Saga" made the list. Jenny used and mistreated Forrest so badly just because he was mentally challenged and could get away with it. As for Bella and Edward...no way in hell I'd give up my life and independence for undead creep playing head games and thirsts for my blood.
@NessaBear90
@NessaBear90 Жыл бұрын
I didn't realize Edward and Bella were toxic until a few years ago. I didn't realize how needy Bella was and how obsessed Edward was. There's so much more than that but it's just not healthy.
@Goomyx1492
@Goomyx1492 Жыл бұрын
Jenny was sexually abused early in life and that completely messed with her self-worth. It blows my mind that you can respect Forrest's mental hurdles, but not Jenny's struggles in trying to get over the abuse.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
​@@Goomyx1492 I would have been better if Jenny told Forrest to find a woman who is more human than she would ever hoped to be
@unknownstranger6875
@unknownstranger6875 Жыл бұрын
@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722She kept telling him that he didn’t know what love is and how she wanted him to back off. Also Forrest has an intellectual disability, if it was real life, would people even accept them as a couple? They’d see her as predatory. She already had her own issues and didn’t want to bring Forrest down with her so she left.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
@@unknownstranger6875 Imagine if a love triangle happened in that film. Maybe the better ending would still be Jenny's death by cancer but Forrest had suddenly a better wife all along
@wowjennawow
@wowjennawow Жыл бұрын
i think the actors not looking even remotely like high schoolers in grease really makes the character’s mistakes harder to understand lol
@James-gj8rn
@James-gj8rn Жыл бұрын
Until i heard about it, i never would have imagined Leonardo DiCaprio and Clare Danes didn't like each other in real life
@carastone3473
@carastone3473 Жыл бұрын
A Star is Born: Allie & Jackson are FAR from ‘romanticized.’ There’s nothing romantic about the way things end!
@srkh8966
@srkh8966 Жыл бұрын
All of the “A Star is Born” couples were toxic-that’s literally the plot.
@andreasmeelie1889
@andreasmeelie1889 Жыл бұрын
People need to leave Cher and Josh alone! Believe it or not, people can be step siblings and still marry each other because they aren’t related. It is admittedly very odd but hey it’s much better than incest. Not to mention but the gap? Cher is 16 and Josh is 18 or 19 when they started going out. I was 18 and my boyfriend, Ryan, was 16 when we started going out. So that’s like saying that we were toxic for each other just because of our age gap. It’s okay for that to happen as long as there’s no sex until he’s of age too. I’m just pointing that out there.
@glogler
@glogler Жыл бұрын
You should do tv show couples next. Gossip Girl: Chuck & Blair, Pretty Little Liars: Ezra & Aria
@Showtunediva
@Showtunediva Жыл бұрын
I’d argue that the Love Actually couples should be at number one. Allie & Noah clocks it at number two quite easily.
@bennymora3086
@bennymora3086 Жыл бұрын
I knew Twilight would be on the list.😆
@_abby_g
@_abby_g Жыл бұрын
I’m disappointed Hardin and Tessa aren’t on here
@arrow_of_ravenclaw5155
@arrow_of_ravenclaw5155 Жыл бұрын
Same
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
Maybe now it's so toxic it must be forgotten no matter what
@_abby_g
@_abby_g Жыл бұрын
@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 so toxic Fifty Shades and Twilight are considered less toxic 🥲
@kendrarasberry3078
@kendrarasberry3078 Жыл бұрын
How in the world are they not on the list??
@_abby_g
@_abby_g Жыл бұрын
@@kendrarasberry3078 Probably because they’re too unbearable. All the couples on this list are at least somewhat tolerable.
@marieangels6
@marieangels6 Жыл бұрын
Cher and Josh are EX step siblings... And never had a close brother/sister bond
@Quarktehduck
@Quarktehduck Жыл бұрын
I feel like a lot of people misunderstand love, actually. The “actually” is the point, sometimes it’s actually messy and sometimes it’s not okay… but also Hugh Grant’s character literally removes his assistant because he recognizes that it’s not okay to date an employee? Also, Romeo and Juliet isn’t supposed to be a love story, it’s supposed to be a tragedy. Their love was an illustration so that their deaths drove home the point, that hatred has real consequences.
@11cabadger
@11cabadger Жыл бұрын
I know this isn't a fun topic but I enjoyed this video. Congrats on staying 100 about couples that have always seemed more "icky" than "dreamy". I agree with other commenters, you're being a little hard on Jenny. It's not a toxic relationship if the "damaged partner" isn't intentionally hurtful (Jenny wasn't being malicious in keeping the baby a secret) and don't forget Forrest understood Jenny's issues and loved her in spite of them. As for Beauty and the Beast, yeah, he wasn't a good guy at first, but isn't there room for growth in relationships? The guy was cursed for being a jerk and wouldn't have become Prince Handsome if his heart hadn't been truly reformed. As for Beauty, she needed the reality check.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
The film would have been better if Jenny told Forrest to find a woman that is far better than her and her sisters because Jenny believes she has no right to be even some competition. She wanted to die maybe if her not defending herself from abusers is to be believed
@glazgogirl
@glazgogirl Жыл бұрын
100% agree with Grease being on this list. I remember watching it and loving it as a kid all thanks to the catchy tunes. However, watching it as an adult makes you realize how completely messed up it is. It's the worst.
@bendalymckenna6271
@bendalymckenna6271 4 ай бұрын
Romeo montage was just a confused young man who should have had better influences to help him understand the feelings of love
@kriscynical
@kriscynical Жыл бұрын
Cinema Therapy has excellent episodes about a lot of these couples/movies (like how Belle and Beast is _not_ Stockholm Syndrome). There's nothing wrong with enjoying fiction, but the siblings/guardians/parents of younger people should definitely make an effort to make sure they know that these things aren't _actually_ as ✨perfect✨ or ✨romantic✨ as they seem on film because fiction is fiction, even when it might _seem_ realistic. My niece was a tween when the Twilight books were released, and she was OBSESSED with them. Since my sister just obsessed right along with her and didn't see anything wrong at all about Edward or Jacob (her ex-husband would tell you a LOT about why), I had to be the one to have chats with her about things like: "It might seem romantic that Edward sneaks into Bella's room at night to watch her sleep, but if a boy ever does that to you? RUN. That's him being a stalker, and it's creepy. No normal boy does that. EVER." and "No boy should ever take your decisions away from you to make them himself the way Edward and Jacob do to Bella. EVER. You are your own person, and your autonomy is something boys should value and respect just like _everybody's_ autonomy should be respected, _ESPECIALLY_ if they say they love you." I often wonder how many girls from her generation ended up in manipulative, abusive relationships out of the starting gate because they thought Edward or Jacob was ✨dreamy and romantic.✨
@divinelangene6813
@divinelangene6813 Жыл бұрын
Thing is Bella is not her own person as Edward is her whole personality, which is even more toxic
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
@@divinelangene6813 Maybe her father should have aborted her
@bernadettegorman3678
@bernadettegorman3678 8 ай бұрын
Wow! I wish I had an aunt like you that was so intentional with teaching those things! My therapist is walking me thru it now 😅
@Charl_es19
@Charl_es19 Жыл бұрын
I wonder what kind of relationship is Josh and Cher , as they are ex Step-siblings , I mean her father wasn't with Josh's mother anymore and he treats Josh as his son
@Hallmark44
@Hallmark44 Жыл бұрын
Probably his protege, or at least an intern
@sarammauricio
@sarammauricio Жыл бұрын
Mel (Cher's dad) literally says in the movie "You divorce wives, not children", so it makes sense he would continue to treat Josh as a son ever after divorcing his mother. Also, if memory serves, Josh and Cher's parents weren't married very long and the kids hadn't see each other in a while, so they definitely wouldn't have brotherly/sisterly feelings towards each other.
@andrewsmith74
@andrewsmith74 Жыл бұрын
@@sarammauricio It doesn't make sense to be close to former stepchildren. Are you saying that if you were married for a couple of years, you'd treat his kid as your own for the rest of your life?!
@sarammauricio
@sarammauricio Жыл бұрын
@@andrewsmith74 No, I probably wouldn't. But Mel apparently does. Maybe he was married and divorced a lot and he realizes the importance of stability for kids (having one of his own), so he is trying to give that to Josh (whose mom probably was also married and divorced a lot)?
@andrewsmith74
@andrewsmith74 Жыл бұрын
@@sarammauricio If he'd had other marriages, they'd be mentioned. He'd have other ex-family that he'd also consider to still be his family.
@vanessahenry7238
@vanessahenry7238 Жыл бұрын
Every time I saw young people say that Harley and Joker were their relationship goals, I am STUNNED! NO Sorry! Joker is an abusive man that shouldn't be looked up to! YET there has been so many that think they are, and I am confused! My niece read the Twilight books and I got through the first one to see what the big deal was - I agree. Notthat he is a vampire bothered me - Vampires are not the issue - its the stalking. Morticia and Gomez are what some should look to - they love each other
@rubytuesdayphoenix
@rubytuesdayphoenix Жыл бұрын
Yet another half-baked take of "ermagahhhhhhd Grease was so PROBLEMATIC" *groundbreaking* People take it WAY too seriously. For godssakes, they FLY OFF in their car at the end! Frenchie deciding whether to drop out of beauty school and go back to high school takes the form of a highly stylized musical number with Frankie friggin Avalon as an angel! It's a fun fluffy fantasy, leave it alone* *also, I consider the ending through the Cinderella principle: Cinderella wasn't a passive maiden who dreamt of meeting and marrying the prince, she just wanted a damn night off to dance at a ball and wear a pretty dress. In the same line, Sandy got a makeover for herself. She was a teenager! Teenagers frequently try on different personas as a way of finding out who they are. Hell for all we know, maybe a week after they flew off in the car and landed in Narnia, she went through a flapper phase. Danny digging her makeover was just the cherry on top. (I know, this rant ironically shows that now I'M taking it too seriously lol whatever)
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
Tell that to children who easily romanticize crap
@allisonheath1156
@allisonheath1156 Жыл бұрын
Is anyone romanticizing Forrest and Jenny, though? The other couples on this list are seen as “couple goals” or classic couples, lots that people will dress up as for Halloween. But I’ve never seen anyone look at Forrest and Jenny that way, I think they’ve always been seen as maybe not toxic, but tragic.
@dizkidliz
@dizkidliz Ай бұрын
Forrest was the one who always treated Jenny with the respect she deserved and Jenny never felt as if she was worthy of such treatment because of what she went through. “We accept the love we think she deserve.” The Perks of Being a Wallflower
@lovefromwonderland
@lovefromwonderland Жыл бұрын
I like how people say Belle fell in love with her captor when she could leave any time she wanted. In fact, she DID. And the Beast saved her. Hello??? Do people not remember that??
@MargaretHogan-wf8er
@MargaretHogan-wf8er Жыл бұрын
Also gotta admit, when my young adult daughter said she liked Harley Quinn, I thought I'd Pass out or something (lol) But I have to give her credit for getting me "into" Harley Quinn, the solo character, even if she (Harley) has done a lot of not so nice things in her past, with or without Joker. Margaret from Canada
@BlessYourHeart254
@BlessYourHeart254 Жыл бұрын
Jack Black acting like he’s a prize 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️
@mollysimpson680
@mollysimpson680 Жыл бұрын
Hal saw the inner beauty of all women he was shallow and had to learn to see past appearances. He finally got it when he saw Kadence again and saw her not as the sweet young child who didn’t have anything wrong to seeing her as she actually was which was a patient in the children’s burn ward.
@qu33niemonroe64
@qu33niemonroe64 Жыл бұрын
Twilight should be at the top of the list and Fifty Shades of Grey
@josefk7437
@josefk7437 Жыл бұрын
500 Days of Summer was a great movie, but that movie makes it clear that Tom was a selfish harasser and that the romance was not meant to be emulated. It was left open ended whether Summer was ever leading him on because of Tom's unreliable narration. Summer made a clear unambiguous No, but Tom did not get the memo that no means no. The actor who played Tom encouraged fans who sympathized with Tom to watch the movie again and see how selfish and entitled he was.
@unknownstranger6875
@unknownstranger6875 Жыл бұрын
Tom was a needy, clingy fool. But Summer wasn’t innocent either. She knew how she felt and stuck around, even though she did not feel the same way. Leaving him alone would have been the right thing to do. If he kept insisting that she go out with him, she should have gotten a restraining order. Instead she kept it going, and even chased him when he was ready to walk away. Both are crappy people. I’ve been in Summer’s shoes. When I saw some men I dated were more serious than I was, even though I was clear that I didn’t want anything serious, I cut things off with them. Didn’t even sleep with them. I didn’t want the drama that came with it, and didn’t want to hurt anybody.
@powerpuffmoonlight
@powerpuffmoonlight Жыл бұрын
Massimo and Laura should've been in the list because they're the most toxic romantic couple there.
@Rose-xy5pe
@Rose-xy5pe Жыл бұрын
I disagree with the Notebook and Forrest Gump. Yes Noah asked Ally out in a way that was totally wrong. But if Ms. Mojo did her research, she would know that even after the Ferris wheel scene, Ally still wasn’t going to go out with him. She only started to like him once he talked to her like a normal person and tried to get to know her. And then years later, she was the one who tracked him down and went to see him. As for Forrest Gump, Jenny never took advantage of Forrest. Not once. She thought that she was worthless and that Forrest was too good for her. Hence why she pushed him away so many times.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
She should have told Gump this to his face tho. Just tell him to END IT. I mean by this point all break up songs that demanded the other person to be honest to their faces uncaring if the truth will be deadly have aged like fine wine
@Rose-xy5pe
@Rose-xy5pe Жыл бұрын
@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 It’s not that easy for some people. Especially ones with a history of abuse. And to tell you the truth, re-watching the movie several times, I’ve never actually seen Jenny do anything to hurt Forest. Really the only one I ever saw her hurt was herself.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
@@Rose-xy5pe That's why I want a what if story of a competition between Jenny and another girl as a battle for Forrest to see who is more worthy of his heart
@straburyred
@straburyred Жыл бұрын
How about making a list of the Top 10 Toxic Film/TV Couples We Just Can't Get Enough of?
@brennaflaherty8871
@brennaflaherty8871 Жыл бұрын
Another thing about Romeo and Juliet is, what my 9th grade L.A teacher loved to remind us, is the balcony scene is Romeo being a creep. He trespassed over the wall and had no idea which was Juliet's room or that she lived there, and just looked into someones room. The scene in the Owl house where Luz went to save Amity and they kissed in Clouds on the horizon is how to do the balcony scene without being creepy Romeo.
@Incrediblya
@Incrediblya Жыл бұрын
Shallow Hall is one of my favourite movies and I can't agree with this pick. Yes, it extremely exagerates everythimg, but it's a comedy and should be considered as such. And also, Hall's behaviour and fatfobia clearly is shown as wrong.
@lh5670
@lh5670 Жыл бұрын
I don’t agree with Josh and Cher. Their parents were only “hardly married.” He always struck me more like that kid you hung around growing up because your parents were super close. Not actual family.
@superjennaleigh
@superjennaleigh Жыл бұрын
I kind of have to disagree with the twilight one cause Yes it's a toxic relationship but if anybody was the one forcing themselves on the other or not respecting their boundaries it was Bella.
@unknownstranger6875
@unknownstranger6875 Жыл бұрын
Both were extremely codependent, unhealthy people. He was possessive and a gas lighter. She was obsessed with him, making him her whole world.
@rachelmartin5187
@rachelmartin5187 Жыл бұрын
Couples that I would add: 1. Tessa and Hardin (The After series) 2. Harper and Robin (The Best Man) 3. Michael and Kaye ( The Godfather) 4. Johnny and June (Walk the Line) 5. Mr. And Mrs. Smith (Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie's movie)
@deeanna8448
@deeanna8448 Жыл бұрын
I'm fst, and I really liked Shallow Hal. I think we can still enjoy these movies while recognizing they aren't accurate portrayals of how relationships should be.
@gabbyp1934
@gabbyp1934 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting Love, Actually in this list, because when me and my brother were watching this with our parents, we were so upset by this movie we didn’t finish it all the way through when we were a bit younger. Recently I decided to watch it again on my own, and I still believe that it is trash. One of the worst rom coms ever in my opinion.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
Most in that film deserve a lifetime of coal since it takes place on Christmas
@michellerindal8836
@michellerindal8836 Жыл бұрын
Twilight ,50 shades , Romeo and Juliet , and the Notebook movies make me want to scream at them. Forrest and Jenny make me not want to be like them, but can see why he wants to love her so much.
@grayshigami6797
@grayshigami6797 Жыл бұрын
A very toxic couple everyone forgot about is from Disney's Chicken Little, when Foxy changes because of the aliens but when they try to revert it Runt tells them for her to stay that way without her consent and no one else cares about it
@trinaq
@trinaq Жыл бұрын
Agreed, that always bothered me as a child, since Foxy has her whole personality wiped clean, and is brainwashed into having a relationship with Runt, simply because he likes her better that way? And this is supposedly a kids' movie?!
@misostie5867
@misostie5867 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting grease there. I always thought that it was a bad idea to change so completely for a guy.
@ArtemisArrow
@ArtemisArrow Жыл бұрын
12:41 - Gotta majorly disagree with you guys on this one. A majority of people think their relationship is toxic because she falls in love with him and yet he "kidnapped" her when that's not even remotely the case. You can't call it kidnapping or being held captive if you willing choose to go with someone or choose not to leave the location you're at; which is exactly what Belle did in order to save her father.
@amandalea8772
@amandalea8772 Жыл бұрын
I disagree with the Forrest Gump reading, it comes down to Jenny’s trauma and self worth. She loves Forrest but doesn’t see herself of being worthy or good for him so she dates all these trash bags that she doesn’t care about. She stays away from Forrest when she has his child because she doesn’t want to burden him or is hoping he maybe finds someone else. But when she finds out she’s sick and terminal she knows that it’s Forrest that she can trust to be there for her. A lot of ppl that have suffered trauma particularly women would love to have someone like Forest who is a safe harbour like that. I also kinda disagree with the notebook, while the start of their relationship is 100% dodge. The arguing isn’t always a bad thing, they don’t hold anything back from each other and know they love each other at their worst.
@shannonslutzky4754
@shannonslutzky4754 Жыл бұрын
I agree but I believe she didn’t really hold off telling him about his son -he started running the minute she left and she told him shortly after he returned, in an time before cell phones
@amandalea8772
@amandalea8772 Жыл бұрын
@@shannonslutzky4754 ooh good point, I’m gonna have to rewatch just to refresh my memory
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
​​@@amandalea8772 In my headcannon Jenny had therapist who punched her in her face and finally learned her lesson
@bheast86
@bheast86 Жыл бұрын
Joker & Harley are pretty much supposed to be toxic? Romeo and Juliet hardly count as a 'movie couple', and even if they did, there were plenty of other movies of the story besides 1996. Likewise Beauty and the Beast having enough of a cultural history to not be a 'Disney Couple' - that wasn't even the first movie version
@animeinuyashakagome
@animeinuyashakagome Жыл бұрын
Yes Romeo and Juliet hardly count as a movie couple since it’s originally a play, but in every versions of the story they are still a toxic relationship. Much like the Joker and Harley Quinn, they were intended to be toxic since it was Shakespeare’s intention to write them as a toxic couple.
@starrsmith3810
@starrsmith3810 10 ай бұрын
The literal point of Beauty and The Beast is is that The Beast was a selfish and mean guy who becomes a better person……himself. Belle didn’t do a single thing to change him other than be herself.
@anasaavedra5600
@anasaavedra5600 Жыл бұрын
They’re better be the same for Television couples I mean there’s a lot almost every pairing except for Lexi and Fezco from Euphoria, Ross and Rachel from friends, Ted and Robin from How I Met Your Mother, Derek and Meredith from Grey’s Anatomy, Jade and Beck from Victorious, Sam and Freddie from Icarly, Dwight and Angela from The Office, and Carrie and Mr Big from Sex And The City,
@AdZS848
@AdZS848 Жыл бұрын
I challenge you to find top ten rom-coms or fairytales that portray healthy relationships. Most Rom-Coms belong on this list. In fact most fairy tales do too... Snow White falls for someone she barely knows and marries him, Sleeping Beauty gets raped while she's unconscious, the Little Mermaid changes who she is and literally loses her voice to be with the man she loves... what are we teaching our children??
@jwindsor6274
@jwindsor6274 Жыл бұрын
damn how did hardin and tessa not make the list 😂
@HardiBarzani
@HardiBarzani Жыл бұрын
Mate I literally skipped through the whole video just to see if they made it they should have been number one probably the most toxic out of all of these couples 😂
@methmiyashodara7207
@methmiyashodara7207 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for including Bella and Edward! I've been saying for years how toxic they are! Edward is a controlling man who had no regard for Bella's boundaries and then we have Bella who just made me scream with frustration. Forget team Edward or team Jacob, I was on team Charlie, that dude deserved way better as a father. That being said, Beauty and the Beast definitely wasn't toxic, nor was it Stockholm syndrome. It definitely had the elements to be a depiction, but the small details prevented that. For example, Belle initially sees the beast as her friend, she refers to him as my friend when Gaston and his cronies plan on killing him. She later realises she is in love with him, when he is dying.
@straburyred
@straburyred Жыл бұрын
Where the hell are Jay Gatsby and Daisy Buchanan from "The Great Gatsby?"
@pandorasbox4238
@pandorasbox4238 Жыл бұрын
I loved Shallow Hal. He got over his ego and went with his heart. It's not anti-fat or whatever, it's anti-ego. They make him look like a jackass (intentionally), showing how ugly the hate and trashy jokes are. People need to stop being so damn sensitive. Also, the Clueless thing - it was sweet. They aren't related. There's nothing wrong with it.
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
Tell that to children who easily romanticize crap
@pandorasbox4238
@pandorasbox4238 Жыл бұрын
@@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 🙄 That's one of the groups I was talking about.
@angelaholmes8888
@angelaholmes8888 Жыл бұрын
Not shocked that joker and harley are number 1 and rightly so there truly toxic
@Pastel_Dreams
@Pastel_Dreams Жыл бұрын
12:44 If I had a dollar every single time had to listen to this bs belief that BatB is about “Stockholm Syndrome,” I would be in the 1% by now 🤬😡 Did any of these people EVER read this story as children or watch ANY of the numerous adaptations? Beauty CHOSE of her OWN volition to go in her father’s place to rectify HIS mistake. She CHOSE to stay with him once she realized he wasn’t really the monster she believed him to be (I.e. being a decent being to her & respecting her personal boundaries). She CHOSE to go back to him BECAUSE she realized she genuinely love him for him.
@jetodessa5484
@jetodessa5484 Жыл бұрын
I agree. I will continue to rock my 'real beauty lies within' bracelet thanks 😊🎉
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722
@nestorsifuentesaguirre2722 Жыл бұрын
​@@jetodessa5484What do you think of Xaldin telling the Beast that a Beast feeling love is bullshit? Was he trying to prove that second chances is never deserving and that everyone who is reforged as a monster must stay as a monster till the end?
@7amart177
@7amart177 Жыл бұрын
Now do anime, video game and cartoon couples
@carlagado3779
@carlagado3779 Жыл бұрын
I personally think Hardin and Tessa from the after series should be on this list.Both of them are toxic for each other
@iyamagod
@iyamagod Жыл бұрын
The couple from Love and basketball
@mayaeiland
@mayaeiland Жыл бұрын
What about Elle Evans and Noah Flynn from Kissing Booth Franchise!
@beverlylegg8139
@beverlylegg8139 Жыл бұрын
What about Christian Slater and the main girl from Heathers? 🙃😊
@ThePinkDragon
@ThePinkDragon Жыл бұрын
YOU FORGOT Rett and Scalllrtt gone with the wind
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