Top 10 WORST Things About My Porsche Cayman!

Not that long ago I put out a video talking about the Top 10 things that I love about my Porsche Cayman GTS. This time, I'm giving you the flip side of that coin, let's talk about the Top 10 things that drive me nuts about this car! These are the WORST quirks, characteristics or design choices on this car -- WHY IN THE WORLD ARE THEY LIKE THIS?!! I don't think these are deal breakers by any means, but it might make you think twice about whether you want to plunk down $100K+ for a Porsche.
Just my opinion folks, but I figured I should share my thoughts and impressions about these things after over 6 months of ownership. Let me know in the comments what you think, do you agree or are there other things about these cars that drive you mad? Am I making a big deal out of nothing?
If you can't handle all this negativity, go watch my other video where I talk about the Top 10 things I LOVE about my Porsche: • Top 10 Things I LOVE A...
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[@garypollard6784]

I've had none of these issues with my 2024 Cayman S. I'm ecstatic every time I get in it.

[@lf911sc]

You’re not a whiner. I’d hate to have been this guys salesman. Paints not right, my fat ass doesn’t fit right in the seats, with a tall bottle I can’t see the warning light on the right pillar and I’ve read the digital oil readings might be inconsistent.

[@francistsui4931]

I have a 2014 Cayman S and no issues to me too!

[@scnupe7]

Don’t wave your hand across the frunk to open it. Simply place your hand over the bumper below the crest and leave it there for a second or two.

[@tobi_dg]

Exactly. It works every time if you place your hand in the recommended spot.

[@d.nakamura9579]

Porsche entry and drive opening of the trunk and frunk on my 2023 Cayman S has worked fine and reliably, bit it took some practice to know where to put your hand. you have to place it in the middle of the front bumper directly in front of the Porsche crest on the hood and actually lightly touch the surface while you have the keys on you. For the rear trunk, again in the middle and not on the spoiler, but on the deck below that area where the model designation is. You have to actually lightly touch the car. Waving hand over the surface won’t activate the opener. Hope this helps

[@joemccloud1850]

Also had condensation on both headlights and taillights at delivery. They also said it was “normal” but gladly agreed to fix it under warranty. They replaced all 4 lights and I haven’t had an issue since. Good luck.

[@I999-g2s]

I love the video posted by that mechanic who stripped down a Cayman and a 911 and proved they were very much the same car underneath with a massive amount of shared parts. Of course the engine location and rear-seats/firewall being the key difference.

[@86drive86]

yeah, that was a very informative video. Even if my 982 (mild evolution of a 981) shares parts and the pedigree of an older 991 that's not too shabby at all. And the people who think a 911 is somehow better, are deluding themselves.

[@joemccloud1850]

My frunk/trunk comfort access was finicky and essentially didn’t work at delivery. I had it serviced under warranty and now it works easily and consistently every single time without fail.

[@tobi_dg]

It sounds like yours was broken and had to be fixed. But in the video he is waving his hand across which isn’t the right way to use this feature. You have to place your hand in the spot recommended in the manual. I can see why you may just want to wave your hand across but it doesn’t work that way.

[@DavidJCarrell]

Don’t stress the small things; that sweet, wailing flat 6 makes it all worth it. This car is so much cooler than any Tesla

[@zeblackboi]

Too bad this model is a turbo flat 4.

[@tomb.4171]

@@zeblackboi No, it's a GTS 4.0. Why are you just claiming things that aren't true?

[@onlyfacts3502]

⁠@@zeblackboiEven if it was the 2.0, or 2.5 it would still be a far better performing car. I love the 987 and 981 Cayman. I’m not such a purest that I can’t admit when something is just overall a better car. Looks, sound, that’s a different story, but performance wise the 718 absolutely dominates. I have driven one with nothing more than an APR tune and it transformed the entire car…for the better.

[@randymcclanahan5087]

I thought your complaints were a little too picky! However, I learned some things from the comments, so I appreciate your post. I will pick up my 2024 Boxter GTS 4.0 next week. It will fit nicely next to the 981 Boxter S that I plan to also keep! The 981 has had some annoying little issues, but overall, it is still a magnificent beast! Thanks for the post!

[@I999-g2s]

1st world problems in a world where (sadly) $100k means nothing for a new car.

[@Encourageable]

Yeah, no. $100K is still very high for a car - especially one that’s a bare bones sports car.

[@Xxyion86]

Here’s something that will make you rage. The HVAC controls work how you want if you don’t have any memory seats. So the 2ways and the buckets allow you to use the hvac controls as normal.

[@86drive86]

I see, so I paid extra for the memory function which cripples the HVAC function? Got it lol.

[@Xxyion86]

@@86drive86 LOL yup. Like i can kinda see their reasoning for doing it the way they did, but they really should have given people the option to make it so it remembers the previous setting rather than the one set to your seat position. Also in regards to the closing of the hoods, you cant slam the front hood cuz its not weighted like most other car hoods are (weight savings) and so you risk bending the hood if you try to slam it down. For the rear hatch, they ask you not to slam it because it may not close all the way as it's also not weighted. I didnt need to do that with my GT4 due to the big wing on it weighing it down so i could just close mine as normal. Take it with a grain of salt but this is what they told me at PECLA and i'm inclined to believe them.

[@tobi_dg]

The option for HVAC would have been nice to choose the last setting or the one from the memory setting. But most of the time the memory setting is good. It’s always the perfect setting that I like. As far as slamming the frunk and trunk, yeah it’s a sports car where they try to minimize weight. Same with the 911 frunk.

[@d.nakamura9579]

2:40 I went with the power sport seats and not the sport plus type in your car because the lower bolsters are less prominent and I’ve heard it makes them a bit easier to get in and out of the car, and without excess wear the left bolster on the drivers side over time. I suspect the larger bolsters also make for less seat width (?)

[@aiml3sscalam1ty85]

P. Mok! I didn't even know about the no-touch frunk and trunk release, thank you for that! However, after trying this on my 2018 Cayman this evening, I figured it out! [Don't swipe your hand around, just hover in place!] Just hover your hand an inch away from the bumper below Porsche Emblem on the hood, or over ,the "Cayman" Lettering on the rear, and the respective frunk or trunk will open within roughly two seconds. ****This was tested in the garage while dry, so I don't know how well it works in the rain or snow.**** Subjective Opinion Regarding "HVAC": Although the "everything is a memory function" was frustrating at first, I now think it's one of the greatest features since memory functions began. I can set the positions of the seats, mirrors, steering wheel, PCM convenience settings, informational display, HVAC, and more to my key! Every-time I enter the vehicle using my programed key, and start the car, everything I'd ever need to adjust after a previous driver's modification will revert to my desired specification for everything without me needing to do a single thing. It's amazing, but it was a pita until I realized what was going on. What's more so, is I can also set additional seating and wheel configurations for different moods of driving. My typical key programming is to be seated upright and having the most control and access, with the "2" memory setting being a more relaxed position for longer drives, with the mirrors adjusted to match. Can't wait to find out what else my little 718 has yet revealed to me :)

[@DavidS94938]

I see your point about the paint, but that likely is a dealer issue, and could have been taken care of for you. Condensation in taillights would bug me as well. But not a big deal, either. The rest just seems like whininess. Good thing you aren't into classic MGs!

[@evolutionmoto]

Noticed the paint, condensation in tail lights, and frunk/trunk. My dealer told me the condensation was normal :/. I see it as welcome to Porsche. We are super lucky to have them. I love the hell out of mine :). 2024 Cayman GTS 4.0 arctic gray.

[@cayman2lambo2025]

Have a GT4 and had a GTS. The A/C controls will stay on the temperature you have. Yes you don’t slam the truck or frunk cause you can crease the frunk. Some of your issues I agree with and some I don’t. The condensation is common and it will be replaced if the moisture stays in. Need to get your car ceramic coated and paint correct to get the swirl mark and scratches out. No car comes with perfect paint. The Porsche seats are made to hung you and keep you in a good driving position. I have the LWBS love them. Overall good video.

[@paullivingthedream8878]

I have 2023 Boxster GTS, the only comments I agree with is cup holders and reverse gear. To open frunk and trunk you have to pass hand (close to car) in front of Porsche logo for front and above the script in the back very slowly . I think they do this so it doesn't pop open if your close to car or washing car.

[@timjones4594]

Agree, no dip stick is a pain in the butt, cup holders exist to shut idiots up, only morons would use those. My 981 lights fog when I turn them off, it goes away if theyre on.

[@carlfrederick8433]

My 2024 GTS tail lights have condensation when I wash the car. It quickly disappears shortly after I finish washing it. The servisor said it is designed to vent and it seems to work and is not a problem for me. I worked in an auto assembly plant and we always had a problem getting the lights to be perfectly sealed. Apparently Porsche resolved that by adding venting rather than trying to have a completely closed system.

[@nathanbollar1651]

My 2¢ on proximity sensors for trunk opening, it’s definitely less of a wave and more of a place and hold briefly. The front one works every time for me. Just put my hand right in the middle on the nose right in front of the trunk lid. The rear is more temperamental for me, but the front works great.

[@86drive86]

thanks, I'll give it a slower wave or a hold. but for what it's worth I once had a salesman at the dealer admit to me that it's easier to just pull out the key fob and press the unlock button most of the time LOL.

[@allenkellogg7499]

@@86drive86 I've found that running a finger over the rear badge opens the key less entry.

[@xXsplashxandxcrashXx]

@@86drive86I agree with what’s mentioned above. No problems with my entry and drive for the trunks, just place and hold a hand on the rear badge or hold a hand under the crest but on the front bumper for the front. If it continues to be finicky doing this, something is wrong with the system.

[@tobi_dg]

Yep. The entry and drive works fine. Maybe the salesman didn’t know how to use it. They don’t always know the cars as much as we think they do.

[@lloydelliot7416]

Came to give my 2¢ on this. I, too, have found that you just hover your hand & not wave it. For the frunk, just hover your hand directly below the crest, over the bumper. For the truck, hover your hand over the bumper below & between the "R" & "S".

[@smeernoff7181]

Ok, I myself are not concerned with your 10 gripes except 1-the taillight moisture. From 77-02 I worked on 50 million dollar carrier based fighter aircraft. They broke in some way almost every flight. Flight control Hydraulics, Comms, Electronics, Engines etc. My point is cost does not guarantee quality. I have driven in my positions Rolls Royce Phantom, Ferrari 550 and an ENZO, Porsche 996 Turbo, BMW 3,6&7s. Myriad other cars & many trucks. None were without flaws. I am searching for a used 981 as a weekend tourer. Your views I take into consideration. However it is a machine and the sum of its parts are rarely perfect. I say enjoy what you have. Like the guys with big smiles I see driving older fairly worn out 97-04 Boxters, Mercedes SLs, 80’s Corvettes, 5.0 Mustangs & old Miata’s. If I had 100K then a 0:15 smartly used 911 would be in my garage. Until then I will take my measly 50K & find a lower mileage 981 & enjoy the heck out of it. I will accept its features & issues before the purchase. Thanks for your video view point. 🇺🇸

[@86drive86]

Appreciate your perspective as well! My dad was a contractor who worked on Navy aircraft as well, primarily the A-6. He worked at NAS Alameda and then NAS North Island (Coronado). I bet you have some great stories.

[@ThatCaymanGuy]

So with the frunk, just let it drop and push on the Porsche emblem so lock it shut.

[@joebekavac1517]

agree with the tail light condensation, have not had the other issues. also, you should not have drinks inside a Porsche haha, Drive hard and stop for an expesso...cupholders are for show.

[@dfrascona]

Most of these don't bother me. The one you missed is the windows won't roll down after 2 presses and hold of the key fab unlock button. That one is irritating as it's so common on cars that are 10-15+ years old. The oil reading is bad, agree there. Mine rarely works. Luckily I have only had taillight issues when washing occasionally, agree it's odd to not be sealed. Row the gears and all those nuance things will go away.

[@billfrielingsdorf6501]

Hi P. Mok, I enjoyed your video. I very recently took delivery of a new Cayman GTS. I want to add one thing to your list. It annoys me how the Sports Chrono reflects off the windshield at night. I looked in the manual for a way to turn down the illumination, but got nowhere.

[@chrisdeel4510]

I have a 21 Boxster GTS 4.0, so I get where you're coming from, funny to watch RE shutting frunk - remember most every other car is front engine so the hood area is not sealed, but on the Porsche it is a sealed box with a very lightweight hood. There is nowhere for the displaced air to go (quickly at least) when you try to "close the hood fast". On a Boxster the same is true of the trunk lid, sealed small box. RE 18 way - those are not the comfort seats, they are "18 way Sport Seat Plus" with more adjustment, and memory than the manual "Sport Seat Plus". Comfort seats would be the standard "Sport Seat". RE Keyless trunk opening - a) it will time out after a week or so and not work until you unlock the car at the door handle and b) don't wave your hand, instead try putting your hand over the center of the bumper about 2 inches back from the hood or trunk seam. It takes a half to one second for it to recognize it and will open, and the sensor area is only about 2" x 2" so it is small RE Air Con, when you program the seats, etc, also program the aircon where you prefer it, then save the settings to button 1 or 2, as well as the Key button memory. I prefer this, since sometimes it is hot and I have the car cranked on high, but don't need it to start up that way next time. I do agree the cupholders, dipstick, and occasional light fogging is irritating but doesn't spoil the experience of flat 6 funness

[@steviestube1919]

I have a gts 4.0 boxster and the sensors for the front and back boot is at the bottom of the car, so that when you walk up to the car with the key in your pocket either section will automatically open. I actually find it an incredible inconvenience when cleaning the car when the boot opens, when you walk pass it ! Just remember to lock it and put the key in a key pouch to stop it from opening !

[@AhmadNaveedKhan1996]

Porsche is crazy about the options. Nowadays almost every car has led lights standard but porsche says no they will charge you for that. And a lot things could be standard like key less entry, lane keep assist and adoptive cruise control, floor mats, and when buy gts 4 it doesn't even come with gts interior as standard you have to pay for it. This is crazy

[@josephlim8941]

I have a 987.1 S in manual. The only complaint I can relate too is the over engineered and digital oil dip stick. Though it only occurred on my last oil change. I don’t have moister in lights, reverse shift linkage or other modern features. Overall, it’s been very reliable for me even though it’s 18 years old. It was a different time back then in Stutsguard.

[@1976frisbee]

Strange, I have a 718 Spyder since 2021 and have never had that condensation issue. Maybe I got lucky. The paint issue with the "yellow" marks appears to be rail dust, which is an issue with shipping (many of these cars sit at port for some time where nearby railroad dust is rampant), not a factory paint QA problem. You can use an iron remover to get those out (I did it on mine and it works like a charm). I agree with the Porsche Entry and Drive issue, had it before on previous Porsche and did not order it again. Climate Control: I believe you can set it to the memory of the key and it should remember that setting? Also another option I skipped since I have a convertible and climate control is not as useful.

[@ppeterso22]

Waiting on my 2024 BGTS! My wife and I laugh about the quirks as we've had a 928S4, 944, 997S (Mistakingly had 2 PASM buttons from the factory (we figured one was for spoiler...lol))and still have a 993 and Macan S. Man-oh-man the 928S4 was hilarious and also possessed by demons (she called it "Christine"). The 993 since new would at times spew funky smells when revved high with the heater boxes on OR ever so often let an eye-watering, choking plume of gray smoke in the garage for like 2 seconds on cold start (Porsche fixed that). But, when I got hit in the 2006 997S in the rear at a stop light by an unlicensed driver going 55mph and knocked me into 2 cars and I climbed out with just a scratch bruise on my shin--we decided to buy keep buying them and laughing about the quirks. I think the firefighters were more concerned about me having a heart attack over the damage when they had to cut the frunk open with Jaws of Life. Great video, as usual, and it let's me know what we will laugh about next!

[@Yakman18]

I love the snug fit of the 18 ways when I’m driving a twisty road. Cayman 18 ways are narrower than 911 18 ways. The stock seats or the 14 ways are the chunky (your word) person seats. Slam the rear hatch using the inside handle. Gently close the frunk lid and press on the P logo to latch. Yeah, the tail light fog is an annoying quirk. It doesn’t seem to do it on other P models.

[@MoveUpMedia]

Hold your hand below the emblem to unlock, don’t wave it around.

[@dewyxilent]

This video is click bait. None of these are issues 😂

[@Haloruler64]

Water in your electrical safety devices is absolutely an issue

[@shamailsiddiqui1403]

@@Haloruler64 salt water yes!! drops of rain water doesnt do anything!!..

[@Haloruler64]

@@shamailsiddiqui1403 Yes they do. Rain drops are formed around dust particles. Rain water contains minerals that are both conductive and corrode paint. Rain water contains acids. That's why rain water leaves water spots, and etches paint. That's why rain water spots are so bad for the car.

[@PNVSAG]

I’m with you… I have a 2024 718 Boxster Style Edition and I also have some issues Mine was built in the VW plant Osnabrück and the finish quality is not top notch for a PORSCHE… I do have condensations on the tail lights, also the paint was afoul and I did do the unwrapping of my car, so the problem was from factory. Also, I’ve had done a lot of reading and the paint issues in PORSCHE are very common as the paint is extra soft… I have the manual sports seat (2 ways) and mine is losing the hight, so often that sometimes in one drive I must regulate the seat (this is the most annoying issue I have), interior trim with some minor defects in the leather… and yes the reverse is somehow hard to shift, but for me the second worst thing is the lack of feel from the clutch pedal, so that, I still sometimes stall the car (after 10K Kms) and I’m in my 50s and always drove manuals cars… For plus 100K, I do agree the quality should be much better... but there is a greater feeling and that is when I slam the accelerator and the car “fly’s” whit so much composure and completely stuck to the road!... All cars have their oddities, there are no perfect cars!

[@canyonrun2565]

Press Set and the Key button on the driver door and it will remember your settings.

[@bluemyself]

Oh hey, nice shot in front of Alice's Restaurant!

[@86drive86]

Good eye, my friends and I find ourselves there quite often on the weekends!

[@bluemyself]

@@86drive86 Nice, maybe we'll run into each other at some point. I've got a white 2018 718 GTS

[@francistsui4931]

Since 2008, I have 4 Cayman S, one Cayman R and one Carrera S. The only thing I dislike is the “high tech” cup holder! I love the sport seat when you are cornering at high speed! 😂. BTW, $100,000 is not considered as an expensive super car. Don’t complain too much. Just enjoy the good and ignore the bad. You will be happier!😊

[@tonyliang90]

for the frunk, i just lower it slowly as you do, and push on the badge to close it. In the rear, there is a handle on the inside. you just pull it down fast/hard and itll close without pushing it down. I've had condensation in the taillight i was worried about right after a wash. as soon as i went inside to get my phone to take a pic, it had evaporated. Could you tell me how u got the temp for the ac to sync? i havent figured that out yet. Thanks!

[@oak108]

You probably would have been happier with 14 ways. Those are wider. I think HVAC and windows can be programmed with piwis.

[@steviestube1919]

For the air conditioning for it to remember the speed and temperature, you need to set that on your management info and also it you have the memory options on your seat, if you hold the button when air conditioning is off or you have it set at a temperature you like I will remember those settings !

[@johngalt5411]

There's a certain comfort knowing these issues are not unique to my sample. But you failed to mention my #1 dislike about the GTS and it's the clatter the fuel injectors make on the 4.0 engine. I've had the car a year and sadly it just gets more on my nerves all the time, lol.

[@nbhdxwtaps]

Had my 2021 718 Spyder for 2 months and the taillight condensation only happened once in the right taillight. Not going to take it in for warranty unless it gets worse. I'm more annoyed at having to turn off auto start/stop every time I start the car. My previous 2018 M2 was set and forget for the entire ownership.

[@emac77]

Hey P Mok, I see you have a frunk liner in your GTS. How’s the fit, I’ve just received one and it doesn’t fit well, a one inch space around the sides! Maybe they sent the wrong one? Thanks for a reply.

[@86drive86]

yes, it fits perfectly in my frunk -- I ordered the OEM liner from Suncoast after I saw my friend Oleg had it, where did you get yours?

[@emac77]

@@86drive86 hey thanks for the reply! I got it from official Porsche online shop (I’m in the UK) but I think they must have sent the wrong one. I’ll try again. Thanks.

[@thomaswschaller]

Of all the things in the Universe to stress about - slamming my Cayman's hatches shut has never occurred to me as an option.. ... Why would you want to? Mine close smoothly and click shut with minimal effort and zero stress

[@86drive86]

maybe slamming wasn't the right word, but how about this -- closing it in one swift and smooth motion, rather than having to lightly push it down, then using both hands carefully to press it down into the final locking position. That's what I want to be able to do, like any other car out there. Everyone saying that it's a special sports car and therefore "fragile" is on some kind of crack or copium. Honestly, I think it can probably handle that but it irks me that the salesman/dealer is basically telling you that you shouldn't do that.

[@allenkellogg7499]

Regarding the seats. They are designed to keep in place and supported when you are driving spiritedly and cornering. I noticed similar paint issues with my car, but I think that all happens during shipping. If the Japanese car's you bought were made in North America, they wouldn't have to worry about getting loaded for a sea voyage. You are supposed to measure you oil level once the engine and oil have reached operational temperature, on all cars. The oil will flow differently at operating temperature than when it is cold. The body panels are all aluminum, this makes the cars lighter. This is a sports car so lightness is important and and a defining trait of the Cayman. Aluminum has different properties than steel. Hence the need to close the trunk carefully. The condensation in the lights is normal. It was a surprised for me too at first, but this is how they were designed. The condensation will go away. I'm Texas and the sun and heat takes car of any fog in the headlights pretty quickly.

[@JohnThomas-tc5rf]

The electronic handbrake annoys me..seems to be in reverse to how I would expect it to work..pull to engage and forward to release would be what I would prefer...nothing else annoys me best car I have ever owned..cayman T

[@CRA677]

🤣🤣🤣 Glad to hear that I'm not the only one. I've had 4 Cayman's and still can't seem to manage to get it right.

[@craigsigley856]

@@CRA677push on, pull off. Easy…

[@CRA677]

Momentarily hold your hand over the front/rear sensor area to activate frunk/trunk opening. It takes 1-2 seconds. If waving were to work, every time you wipe the car down, or brush by it, the frunk or trunk would open, which would be a huge annoyance. The front sensor is behind the bumper, directly below the Porsche logo on the frunk. The rear sensor is also centered within the upper portion of your rear bumper. In your case, somewhere around the "m" in "Cayman". I've had a base 987, 718 GT4, base 718, and now a '24 718 S. I have never had an issue with damaging either the frunk or trunk lids by closing them as any normal person would do. I would highly suggest that when closing the frunk, you use a flat palm directly over the Porsche logo. Any other areas pose a risk of denting the frunk. As I'm sure you've noticed, you really have to slam the rear lid to get it to close the first time. Closing the rear is much, much easier if you have a door open, or a window cracked. Like you, all of my P-cars have had condensation in the tail lights. My dealer wouldn't warranty it unless it is basically "pouring down the inside of the light(s)". I can't remember where I read it, but I recall something along the lines of: ...it should dissipate after driving for so many minutes, or so many miles. If it doesn't within that time frame, Porsche will warranty replacement. The design does in fact allow two-way venting, which is necessary. If the venting weren't there, the light housing would crack as the lighting elements heat up/cool down. Some owners have removed the offending lights and drilled a singular, tiny hole in the backside of the light to allow moisture to escape, thus resolving the issue. It's beyond me why every other manufacturer has solved this issue, but Porsche can't seem to manage. To add to your list, if using the air-recirculate with AC on, and then decide to turn the AC off, but continue recirculating the air, the air will only recirculate for something like 2-3 minutes before automatically switching to external air.

[@86drive86]

Thanks for the tips! I'll try holding my hand at the bumper instead of waving.

[@denisvogel5155]

Get a running start with the right hand about 18 inches to the right of the shifter when shifting to reverse. Will become second nature in time.

[@pauljoyquilter359]

I have the 981 GTS and none of these things are an issue for me. Have had the tail lights fog up once in 4 years and it cleared overnight and has not happened again since. Seats are fine for my size, in fact the most comfortable that I have ever had in any car over the past 50 years. My A/C keeps the settings - so maybe this is a setting that you can change in the menu system.

[@ryshask]

I LOVE digital oil checking... I checked my bmw's oil every time before I park for the day. Dunno how bad/good the porsche digital measuring is... Now that the 4th gen MR2 is a thing... I think I know what I'll be getting ;)

[@jonfrench7133]

It’s a bit whingy, no “porsche-o-file” expects 100% perfection, it’s a bit naive to assume so. You’ve had an unfortunate start to your porsche experience but what comes across more than anything else is that you need to learn to relax and enjoy life. You won’t find what you are looking for in your car

[@86drive86]

Maybe it is whingy or naive, but this IS my first Porsche and I don't think I have overly high expectations... on the other hand this is by far the most expensive car I've ever purchased and I think I'm not yet rich enough where I can spend $100K+ on a car, find flaws in it, and just shrug. I see plenty of others commenting in here who are basically doing just that, though. Maybe many other Porsche owners are so jaded or are so wealthy that it doesn't even matter anymore. I'm new to this world and I call it like I see it. And judging by many of the other comments in response to this video, these are not uncommon issues. But trust me I'm relaxing and enjoying life, don't think that this video is a complete summary of how I feel about this car or the experience. Treat this video as entertainment if you want to, I feel like a lot of viewers commenting on this are taking it a little too seriously and maybe they need to relax too. Watch my other videos if you want to see the bigger picture.

[@jeffbauer3425]

My only complaint about the Porsche Cayman is, that I dont own one . And drive a Volkswagen Jetta .🤣😑

[@nanapoku4467]

The trunks’ proximity is being done wrong. Actually touch surface of the car. It should always open. The AC reminds me of my BMW. It always turns back on, whenever you turn the car on. Great car though. 😊

[@bluemoon8498]

i have the same issue with my hyundai genesis foggy headlights. At least my dealer changed it during warranty. But the problem came back after warranty.

[@poolmonkey]

How do you rate the ventilated seats in your Cayman? Do you really feel a difference on hot days, or is it more like a feature than can be skipped in your opinion?

[@Zuffenhouse]

I opted out just because I’ve noticed they don’t wear as well as standard. The little perforations start to look ragged after a while. But I hear they work very well.

[@86drive86]

I actually love the ventilated seats. After I drove a 911 with the option, I knew I wanted it in my Cayman as well. And they have been fantastic, they definitely make a difference on hot days.

[@poolmonkey]

@@86drive86 Good to know, thanks! Your car is beautiful, and I would love to own one like it, even with the negatives you talk about.

[@SBMicic-co5gr]

The incessant engine ticking that makes you wonder what's wrong. Strangers telling you that your car has a stuck valve or bore score.

[@arjay5582]

Nice video. I have owned a Cayman S purchased new in 2017. I detected no paint flaws Sapphire Blue. Checking the oil is a pain and the gauge is not reliable. Probably not unlike many other German cars. Never used cup holders. I found if I hold my hand at about 6:30 from emblem for a few seconds opens the lids. Perhaps the waving motion is not helping. Hold your hand still and reemeber the spot. Climate controls are not an issue for me. I don't change them that often. I have PDK. I have slammed the hatch. The frunk lid just drops shut without slamming. Sometimes I push it shut on the emblem, I was advised to not use a knuckle on the hood to snap it shut other than the emblem; risking some dent. Never have observed condensation in the lights. I have the same lights you have. This in Michigan climate garage stored, and stored in climate controlled garage for winter months.

[@chuckcribbs3398]

I might be able to understand the trunk and trunk lids. Aren’t they aluminum? Probably will bend easily. 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@allenkellogg7499]

100 percent. This is all laid out very clearly in the owner's manual. Did this guy not want a lightweight sports car?

[@86drive86]

I have several other lightweight sports cars that weigh even less than the 718. The BRZ also has a aluminum front hood, and it can withstand being dropped or slammed shut just fine. It also didn't cost 100K! Can you advise where in the owner's manual it says you should use caution not to bend the hood because it's soft aluminum? I'm having trouble finding that part.

[@MW-gi1tr]

these r pretty weak complaints. when i took delivery of my GTS i immediately took it to a professional detailer for a paint correction, ceramic coating and PPF. car looks fantastic. (Gentian Blue). my HVAC controls always return to the settings last used. no idea what is going on with ur car. i have the premium package ....perhaps u don't? why would u want to slam anything? tail lights r vented. this is why u get the condensation

[@86drive86]

Sure, these issues pale in comparison to how great the car is otherwise. But they are issues nonetheless. I did get the premium package too. One of the other comments mentioned that the HVAC memory issue has to do with the fact that I got the 18-way seats with memory function -- those who stick with the manual seats (2-way or bucket) the HVAC works as it normally should. Why would I slam the trunk or hatch? Well when I open them to get something out, that usually means I have something in my hands now and it would be nice to be able to close the lid with one hand. But the method recommended by the sales guy was to close it slowly, then use both hands to press gently down to latch (two hands to distribute the pressure across 2 points instead of one). That is rather inconvenient if you're carrying stuff that you just took out of the frunk or hatchback.

[@lawrencemark3954]

@@86drive86 My BGTS hasn't arrived yet for me to check, but my Macan HVAC was defaulting to a specific temp at each start and it's just a setting within the PCM to stop it from doing that. If I recall, you can set it a temp you like as default, or deselect it and it remains at the last temp set.

[@LetsDraw12]

10. The Eli seats are probably one of the most comfortable seats I’ve ever had in the car if you’re having any issues fitting into it then I highly suggest in the most respectful way you make some lifestyle changes that will benefit your health and driving experience. 9. Once the car leaves the factory there really isn’t anything Porsche can do to ensure that the paint will come perfect during transportation when my car was delivered to the dealership, it was fully wrapped with plastic coverings that would attempt to prevent any road scratches and rock chips, but if you are concerned about protection, I highly recommend going to an experienced detailer to do some paint correction and installer PPF. 8. As for checking the oil levels, I agree with you. It would be nice to have a physical dipstick to whip out and analyze, but unfortunately, even Porsche is moving into the digital era and like most cars, the engine has to be somewhat warm to have an accurate reading, whether dipstick or digital, I’d recommend driving your car around the block or checking out the oil levels once you’ve arrived to a destination. 7. I didn’t notice that the automatic feature on the windows didn’t work when you’re about to turn off the car, but this really isn’t an issue for me personal because I’m turning off the car. I’m probably about to hop out anyways. 6. These over engineered cupholders are always a conversation starter for anyone that I drive around. See them as the most coolest novelty thing ever or as untrustworthy pieces of plastic that can barely hold a specific sized cup. I personally replaced. I personally replaced the center console cubby with a Kaisen 3-D printed cupholder, but I ran into an issue where if the bottle is taller than a standard Coke can it will impede using the manual transmission. Nowadays, I have to pack my coffee into a sealed yeti, and put it in my lunchbox on the passenger seat just to keep my drink secured then I will drink my beverage once I arrive to my destination. 5. As for the easy entry, you’re swiping way too fast and way too low. Try to raising your fingers halfway down the front bumper and about 3 inches lower than the rear mode logos. Your car has to be locked prior for it to work. I found using the knuckles on my finger worked better compared to the padding of the fingers. 4. As for the climate control settings it is something that I figured out on day one because you have the 18 way memory seats. When it says memory, it means every resetting on the car, including the settings, external settings and HVAC settings. Set up the car exactly the way you like and then make sure to set the memory on 1, 2, and the key option because that third key option is the default that the car will set to when entering the vehicle. 3. Having a lockout ring to get into reverse might actually be a better idea for this car, but it is what it is. I just imagine I’m about to slap myself on the thigh and that’s usually enough to shift it into reverse. 2. I honestly wouldn’t slam any trunk regardless of the brand car. I found out if you leave either the driver or passenger door open when closing the trunk it closes much easier. If the doors are closed, pressing down on both end corners of the trunk will close it much easier than pressing down the middle. As I usually make a fist and I apply pressure directly on the logo will ensure that you have even pressure on the hood of the car. 1. I’ve had this concern as well on my last three Porsches, but like Porsche says they have a vent there to battle condensation. Looking at it, objectively condensation is going to happen regardless of which brand of car and sewing of the headlights so I would much rather have a hole for condensation to leave compared to not where condensation will stay. Also keep in mind. These are tail lights so 99.9% of time there won’t be things flying into unless you’re taking it off roading or you exclusively drive it in reverse. All of these “issues” have been self solved through just using the car as a daily! I also have the ‘24 CGTS in shark blue that just came in on allocation on 7/4/24. Been loving it since!

[@86drive86]

Thanks for your detailed comments. As I noted in the video most of these are not dealbreakers, just annoyances that detract from the overall ownership experience. As you say, you kind of learn to deal with most of them. But I just can't help but think, based on my ownership of other cars, that a lot of these could have been designed/implemented better. Congrats on the new car!

[@dukecat1465]

That interesting about Porsche about the issues your having. Your right you spend over 100 thousand plus you should expect Lexus LS500 quality or perfection. Is the 911 build also the same way ? Great Review.

[@86drive86]

When I rented a 992 911 C4S last year, I noticed some of the same issues. Overall build quality is going to be the same, some of the features or implementation might be different.

[@mdx9286]

Great video PMok. You may have gotten one of the few Porsche shoddy vehicles. In your initial posts, you said you had issues from the very beginning of your purchase. As for the assumption that automobiles north of 100K having fewer issues, that's far from the truth. Case in point: my Mercedes AMG GT arrived with a fuel pump issue that the dealership couldn't figure out. I enjoyed the car for all of 783 miles before the dealership agreed to allow me to switch it out. By the way, I hold (not wave) my hand just below the Porsche emblem to open the boot, and mine functions without issue. The temp settings are configured in the steering wheel controls (similar to the setting of the individual modes).

[@86drive86]

Thanks for the tips! That's wild that you had issues with your Mercedes as well. I guess I always was a little wary of German cars in particular for being finicky ever since my wife's first Mercedes had some issues, but I had hoped that in this modern era these issues would have been worked out.

[@ChristopherMartin-gw3cv]

I have a 2019 Cayman and the condensation issue is annoying. My car is garaged, so the issue is less maddening. Still, there should be a better and permanent solution. The electric dipstick is also annoying. I've owned my call for over 4 years and slam the rear trunk lid without issue. I rarely use the frunk, but it is soooo light, I gently close it with the palm of my hand. Otherwise, I'm satisfied, and there is no perfect car.

[@alphabeta8403]

Shame how a $100k car has these issues. LOL a Miata might be a better buy, in that it has a MUCH better overall build quality.

[@86drive86]

As an owner of various Japanese cars and sports cars I tend to agree with you. You get spoiled by the build quality and reliability of Japanese cars, and my past experiences with European and domestic cars has been in contrast, disappointing. But the allure and performance of a Porsche is why I wanted to give the Cayman a chance. I'm enjoying it a lot, but it's not perfect, and everyone who's aggressively defending these cars and the brand is ... well, they're lying to themselves. It has its good and bad characteristics just like any other car or brand. I like to look at each ownership experience more objectively, I'm not trying to drink the Kool-Aid.

[@DonOatesRealtor]

My 987 interior quality is embarrassing. A couple notes for you and everyone else: When closing the frunk I would avoid pressing on the emblem. As others have noted, the hood is aluminum and will bend if there is too much pressure. You did it perfect, fingers spread out basically over the latch. On 987s I've been told that letting the rear hatch fall closed with the windows closed can pop the rear window out. The oil gauge is universally hated. If you do your own oil changes I suggest putting up to a quart of oil less than the capacity. Check the oil level and adjust. I always run about a half quart low (one notch on my car) because if you overfill it there's a chance at high rpm you will pull oil into the air intake. Expensive and difficult to clean up (from personal experience). And there's no excuse for the cup holder. Just plain stupid. If you'd like to expand your club and Porsche experience I suggest you check out the Porsche Club of America. Lots of great people, knowledge, and a variety of events. And given you've made, IMHO, an excellent choice of car/engine/transmission, if you haven't already I would highly suggest trying out at least one day of High Performance Drivers Education (DE or track day for short). You get to learn and experience what your car was built for with skilled instructors in a safe and fun environment. I can guarantee you will never look at your car in the same way!! Feel free if you, or anyone else, is interested in DE to reach out to me for more information. If you enjoy your car on the twistys imagine taking it around Laguna Seca or Sonoma at speed. You don't necessarily need a Porsche, and you can be a guest of a member too.

[@vvarioPL]

Have the same issue with lights on both my Cayenne and Boxster and tbh I just don’t really care 🤷🏻‍♂️ In regards to the other points you’ve mentioned I think that it’s mostly the case that you’ve been looking at ownership of this car through the rose tinted glasses - most of those things could be really easily checked before ordering the car, so that you’d know for what are you signing up for. If you didn’t check it properly, then it’s nobody else’s fault but yours 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@adrenalineride7683]

My ATSV is now on Toyos 888R and has intake and downpipe Tapout Tuned to 511 SAE hp/tq . My orginal tune that came with was from unknown tuner 518hp/488tq when bought from dealer (I actually {insert meme here} liked it better) .

[@keitha.9788]

Wish they had a sunroof option on the Cayman (like I had on my old 928)...

[@brianrong]

Regards closing frunk & trunk; the difference between normal car panels & lightweight panels. You won't want a thoroughbred racehorse to pull a plough. It can do but a draught horse is better suited to plough.

[@carminered]

Condensation is indeed on every single one depending on the conditions being there to build that condensation. Having them replace any of the tail or head lamps would be a waste of time. Also your situation and issues aren’t bad at all. My interior came with so many QC flaws it was embarrassing.

[@86drive86]

Yeah, it does seem like a design flaw that they refuse to address and don't have a fix for. I had a similar thing with condensation in my Subaru BRZ tail lights, and members of the owners community came up with a solution involving replacing the foam gasket that surrounds the tail light at the mounting point, that prevents moisture from getting in. I wonder if anyone has come up with an aftermarket solution for the 718 as well?

[@dabjabar]

You should expect more when paying over 100k… even if it were 50k, your gripes are valid. That condensation design is laughable. So they have the cheaper 718 designed with tail light vents but didn’t give that “feature” with other Porsches? Rrriiigghhhttt.

[@SLYDIT]

Don't your feet have to be Infront of the car for the trunk pop to work? It won't work if your standing to the side.

[@86drive86]

I don't think the feet matter, what I learned from other comments is that you should just hold your hand in place not wave it, and that will usually work.

[@trigganometry168]

My only gripe is the front hood was not align from factory on my Cayman GTS. There is a bigger gap on the driver side which is annoying I wonder if I could have them adjust it under warranty? Haha I actually strained my ribs once while trying to put in reverse.

[@86drive86]

oof, at least I have not suffered any physical injury (yet) as a result of any of these "flaws"!

[@cgh55]

I bought a 2024 Boxster GTS a few months ago. Traded in a 2022 M3. Despite being much less expensive, the BMW had noticeably better build quality. The interior and electronics were also much nicer. I still love the driving dynamics but Porsche is definitely cutting corners while charging a massive premium. And the frunk and trunk issue-mine have a tendency to pop open whenever I spray water on them while washing the car, which is problematic for obvious reasons.

[@Yakman18]

@@cgh55 Try putting the key inside the car when washing.

[@vivamia]

Unfortunately , the condensation happens to mine after I wash it. I am used to it. It goes away. I learned to close the rear hatch without having to press down on it, keep a door or window open to allow the air pressure to escape the cabin and the hatch will close when you drop it. Doesn’t need to be slammed.

[@86drive86]

I had heard about the air pressure trick and tried it, it didn't seem to work for me; it still didn't close/latch all the way.

[@jukeboxjohnnie]

None of the stuff youve mentioned matters at all I have a 718 boxster does those things doesnt bother me. As you ask, MG MGB you have to gently close the bonnet and boot and gently press the edge or you damage it 🙂 Try and remember your car looks orgasmic

[@riskoson]

I think you are moving your hand too fast to open the frunk. Try finding the spot where the sensor is and put your hand there.

[@86drive86]

hmmm maybe you have a point there, are you supposed to just hold your hand in one place not wave? I did also remember another annoyance of this system when washing your car -- if you have your keys in your pocket and spray the car with water, it will pop the hood or hatch! Not exactly what you want when you're hosing the car down... what happens if I'm standing by the car with my key and it starts to rain really hard?

[@jnagime]

Oh man that’s sucks the headlights and taillights thing,to me is a big deal like you said you paid big money for this and has a cheap looking??Looking to buy a Cayman drove few,at 44 is going to be my first European brand and it’s been hard to leave the Japanese brand for this one.

[@adrenalineride7683]

100% Correct!! The light issue is a safety hazard and maybe CA DOT needs to step in or class action lawsuit. I am cross shopping the GTS/GT4 vs C8 Z51/Z06. Honestly, I love the low weight of the Porsche but hate the snobbish BS. Had same experience with my Audi A4 Sline tuned. It seems every manfacture has is issues. The C7 had its wheel cracking issues, but who dont swap out the bs rims for lightweight forged ones? Im thinking of C8 Z06 if I can get a allocation, if not Z51 until the allocation comes up. Maybe I should get a GT4 then Z06 who knows. Im not made of money but love the built quality (mostly) of the VW brands. I have a had a Golf R tuned full mods kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKiUnGOibdNghJYsi=xe9gDBrgrKf9m5fG and Zygrene had featured my car then my ATSV (on old end of life tires) vs BMW kzbin.info/www/bejne/hIGse3qjos-ae6ssi=PDKxrAVEhbIX875M

[@johnob1824]

my seats are sport plus..perfect fit, paint, great,oil messurment, no problem like a lot of new cars..wont give you a reason unless its ready..windows. really, lol,,cup hoilders no problem, turn drinking lip around, keyless great for theft, press the button and dont be lazy, reverse gear,,requires a amount of pressre to use, keep using and you will fit in your seat, botts and trunk, you wont damage, buty sports cars are made lighter, just send it back, your not worthy of a spots car.

[@MikeRyder-ml2mb]

Have similar issues with my 2018 718S Boxster. Have just lived with them. But agree many of these don’t make sense for (in my case) a highly option 92K car. The all controls reset to defaults drives me crazy the most - seat position, auto start/stop, steering wheel settings, drive mode, heat/AC (have the memory and 18 way seats too). The keyless entry hand waving is hit or miss. I try to get as close to the car as possible when waving my hands and wave them over the opening as well. I do gently close the front and back trunks like they were made of glass. Hear they are aluminum and could get damaged. I have the trunks open during car wash issue others have mentioned. Constantly closing them as I hand wash and dry the car. Back light condensation happens the most, as with the mid-engine, the back of the car is warm a long time and I think that contributes to this.

[@anthonywong5329]

Get to the point quicker, repeated yourself 10 times before first point on car seats.

[@joeharris2892]

read the manual or get a miata

[@nebeachbum]

Did you forgot #11: it’s not a 911

[@86drive86]

oh look, it's one of THOSE guys!

[@jimbinder7472]

Very petty gripes in my opinion. Lose some weight and who cares about the other things. Sell the car and get a Toyota if you want a perfect drink holder or slamming the hood of your car is what you want to do. It’s a sports car, enjoy it for what it is.

[@86drive86]

I love how multiple people have told me I should "sell the car and get a Toyota" because I've said a few negative things about the car. People get so defensive about this brand! To the point of saying I shouldn't criticize it and shouldn't have bought it in the first place? That is remarkable behavior. Don't worry, I am definitely enjoying the car when I drive it.

[@charleswill497]

Read the manual on memory settings, it works as you expect if you follow the instructions; if not maybe trade in for a camry

[@Jesse-u2u]

I noticed that you keep repeating yourself

[@jamescampbell5516]

Horrible review by a guy that doesn't know anything about the car. I have no problems with mine. The secret? Push the button.

[@Numberone292]

You should get rid of it and buy a mustang 😂😂😂😂😂😂. This review reminds me of a “Karen

[@michaelhipps1228]

The trunk lid and trunk lid are aluminum to save weight. You can bend aluminum if you slam it or press too hard on it. You are supposed to press on the Porsche badge to gently shut the frunk so you don’t bend your lightweight (good )frunk lid by presssing directly on the metal. This guy knows nothing about cars and certainly nothing about Porsches. Trade the cayman it on some soulless piece of plastic that you will also not appreciate nor care to learn about . It will be some banal point a to point b transportation that may work better for your lazy enthusiasm for cars lifestyle, but by god you will be able to slam that trunk without fear that the metal Is going to bend when it crushes your boxes of twinkies. I kid! It’s a joke. They are actually boxes of zingers not twinkies. Both are made by hostess so An Honest mistake.

[@86drive86]

A couple of things... my Subaru BRZ also has an aluminum front hood, but there is no issue with slamming it shut or pressing too hard on it. I've owned one for over 10 years and it's never been an issue, I suppose Porsche just doesn't design a part to be as sturdy as Subaru does? Or any other manufacturer for that matter. And for what it's worth, my Porsche salesman (who owns several Porsches himself) specifically told me not to press down on the Porsche badge to close it, that actually can bend the frunk lid because you're putting more pressure on one point. He said to use two hands to distribute the pressure. Is he right or is he full of it? I don't know. You're right, this is my first Porsche and so I don't know much about them. I am learning though. But I guess you must know a lot about them, enough to be some kind of gatekeeper about who should or shouldn't own one? I hope I don't meet someone like you at the Porsche club meets, you might actually convince me I don't want to own a Porsche anymore. BTW it sounds like you're the one with the zingers, keep up the good work.

[@Haloruler64]

My hood is aluminum. I can slam it. My rear hatch is composite. I can slam it. I do both. Porsche just makes a delicate ass car.

[@bobbymcjenkins006]

Porsche screwed you with your tail and head lights. That's pretty bs. Buy an M BMW instead. Traded my porsche for a M BMW. Much better car overall.