Top 9 Worst Guns and Weapons from Fallout 4's Survival Mode (Including DLC)

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Hey guys! Back with another Fallout 4 video and today I wanted to go over what I think are the Top 9 Worst Guns and Weapons from Fallout 4's Survival Mode. Like the last video, I will be including some of the weapons from Fallout 4's DLC as well.
Just so you guys know, most of these guns are bad mostly because of their ammo weight. But the top 3 entries are just bad guns in my opinion. As always, if you liked this video, leave a like and let me know what you think!

[@krejgib5360]

The only reason I like the smg is because it's a tommy gun

[@secondandonly8032]

Same

[@michaelmalenchek4575]

same lol

[@laughy38247357075834]

Same

[@PotatoEternal]

same

[@Gex9z]

Same. Such an awesome historical and iconic WWII weapon, _completely misrepresented_ in Fallout 4, in terms of its power. I seriously don't understand how some idiot in their dev team came up with the idea that it should do the same damage (_and_ DPS) as a Pipe Gun, while using more rare, expensive, (and heavier) ammo, which when chambered in an automatic "combat rifle", it does _substantially_ higher damage per shot _and_ DPS. The quotes are cause FO4's "combat rifle" isn't really a rifle since it doesn't fire rifle rounds - .45 ACP is a pistol round. On that note, Bethsoft need to learn a little more about the naming conventions of firearms.

[@traviswhitcomb4967]

the irony is a suppressor wouldn't even work on a gauss rifle. 1: there's no expanding gases to trap. 2: slowing the bullet down to subsonic speed would completely defeat the purpose of a gauss rifle to begin with

[@ramirocharles2981]

isn't subsonic ammo unnecessary though. i mean you will still have a loud shot but it still will be slightly quieter. (just started learning about guns so sorry if i sound like an amateur)

[@Xellos14]

In the case of real life firearms, a suppressor on non-subsonic ammo still dampens the sound to the shooter, but that's because it cools off the expanding gases from the shot itself, making it a bit more quiet at the location of the shot itself. In the case of the gauss rifle, there's no expanding gases or explosion from propellant to dampen, the only noise should be the round itself breaking the sound barrier I'd assume.

[@ramirocharles2981]

Got it, makes more sense now.

[@Callsign_Prophet]

sub sonic shots are superior to suppressors in close range since they're far quieter

[@MrTheree]

Travis Whitcomb d

[@rendopatto2751]

I've never understood why the .50 Cal is so nerfed.

[@briangriffin9793]

especially given how it is actually used. I had to agree with him..it is one of the worst ammo types.

[@Divaad95]

god I agree with you there, not only that but HOW FUCKING MUCH OF IT DO YOU GET I got to a point in my first play through where I had literally thousands more of that ammo type than any other. need to find a mod that re-works every weapons damage to a real world equivalent

[@samhouston1288]

The stock 50 cals suck. I ended up getting a mod for a new 50 cal that does much better damage without it becoming a "God" weapon. As heavy as the gun and ammo is, and as expensive it is, it should at least do decent damage.

[@SixballQ45]

They have those - Real ammo damage (tweaks the weights a lil too)

[@295Phoenix]

Maxim 88 Yeah, and they were better balanced. In this game, some of the weapons are just so unbalanced. The Broadsider, Institute Laser, and .50 caliber weapons in general all need some serious buffs.

[@sirpatrick549]

What I learned from this video; Dont play big guns in survival mode.

[@Inquisitor_Redacted]

The Gatling Laser is one of the most ammo efficient weapons in the game. But other then that yea I wouldn't recommend it.

[@Callsign_Prophet]

pistols fit the RR more in my opinion anyway

[@redrocketrider]

The mm also have a vertibird post story

[@Callsign_Prophet]

Samsunganer who sides with the minutemen?

[@OCAdam]

Minuteman vertibird is probably the best one simply because the signal grenades respawn every time I walk out and back into the Castle armory. So they've got that going for them.

[@Archris17]

I gave piper an SMG purely for the looks. I called it the Boston Typewriter :D

[@PheonixSunstar001]

Totally stealing that name lol.

[@insertpersonhere4871]

LoZ Collector Gave nick an incendiary version, and I myself use a laser rcw (mods). Honestly, I actually like the smg. When fully upgraded, it's a really good weapon. (Then again I don't play survival, so that's probably part of it.)

[@fajaradi1223]

Bad's'pun ...

[@Slenderslayer351]

@Game Soob Not really, but the Tommy Gun is my favourite type of smg because it uses pistol bullets while doing a lot of damage

[@alfiecape406]

Slenderslayer351 LOL

[@bluesoldier1141]

"Sniper rifles suck!" Proceeds to use sniper rifle at close range

[@ellisbarnett0292]

Preston Garvey fuck off back to sanctuary.

[@drunkendruid9335]

Go awaayyyyyy! I don't want to help another settlement! I'm just going to join the Raiders anyways 😂

[@alfiecape406]

Dylan Rice that's the best strategy ever. LOL!

[@acheron9515]

Preston why do you hate me????!?!

[@buildawall5803]

@@ellisbarnett0292 stop hating Preston he's not that bad

[@biostemm]

There should be an upgrade for the harpoon gun, where you get a tether/cable attached to the harpoon, and can reel the enemy in.

[@A-G-F-]

like a real harpoon, not like that speargun

[@damnsonwheredyoufindthis.3830]

Would only make sense if you're in power armor or enemy is light enough for you to pick up but its not like fallout physics make sense anyway.

[@WastelandDrifter101]

That's a glitch fest waiting to happen

[@nathannealon9388]

Bethesda is bassicly saying "So you know all those heavy weapons we put in the game? Ya they're unrealistic af"

[@timgreen6072]

Nathan Nealon actually all weapons in the game are unrealistic

[@mr.niceguy9096]

you do realize you CANT suppress a harpoon right? like ever

[@VinylicPumaGaming]

As far as the game goes, it is a disadvantage that the harpoon gun has when compared to the gauss rifle. As for irl, I'll admit I haven't seen them myself, it does seem like there would be some interest in making harpoon guns quieter though. Maybe not a suppressor as much as a change in the firing mechanism.

[@mr.niceguy9096]

that makes sense

[@mr.niceguy9096]

that's not sarcasm either

[@thunderlord2200]

what i dont understand is why is it so load. irl there not that loud now are thy? far away wise i mean close up im sure u could hear them..

[@cameronmalkoske8461]

VinylicPumaGaming I guess the only exception for the harpoon gun is skipper’s last stand right? Cause that weapon is pretty good

[@kendall8116]

This video should just be called "top 9 ammo types that way a metric fuck ton in survival mode"

[@willyliltrickie7061]

Haha

[@DarkWolf-iv1bv]

"The lever action rifle has a reloading glitch" Me chilling with my legendary lever action with unlimited ammo

[@jontyonopko]

You know what I like about the Sub-Machine gun? Quite a few enemies in the main storyline have to use them.

[@rustyjones7908]

That's probably why it got nerfed.

[@speedypichu6833]

Yeah, picking up the guns and then dropping them can get a lot of 45 rounds, which is helpful outside of survival.

[@baker90338]

Wish the sub gun could be chambered in 38. Would have a use for it then

[@VinylicPumaGaming]

Yeah I agree. I've seen some mods that do that, but I think a .38 receiver would make it better. I don't know if Thompson Machine Guns can support .38 caliber irl, but it would make the smg more practical in Fallout 4.

[@RedShocktrooperRST]

Historically no, but that's because the US Army wouldn't look at a pistol caliber that wasn't .45 ACP at the time and it was Thompson's and the Auto Ordinance Company's primary customer. Probably would've taken some modification so that it didn't work on the idea that higher pressure = lower friction (???) to use a smaller cartridge and just be a blowback design but I can't see any technical reason you couldn't make a .38 ACP (assuming that's what Fallout 4's .38 is) Tommy gun. Honestly I would've preferred it use 10mm. You start in 2077, there's no reason a Thompson-lookalike would HAVE to use "historically accurate" ammo.

[@Callsign_Prophet]

you would have to change the inner barrel and good luck even trying to get a drum mag to work and feed that fast lol

[@RedShocktrooperRST]

A.J. Bensinger Honestly I prefer stick mags in both looks and not-malfunctioning but hey, I didn't design the game.

[@Callsign_Prophet]

RedShocktrooper drum mags irl are clumsy anyway

[@thomasweeden2683]

It honestly makes no sense that the .50, the king of all small arms calibers, does less than the .45-70. It's a bigger bullet, so why the hell isn't it stronger!?

[@XoRandomGuyoX]

Because Bethesda treats it as an Advanced Receiver for the Hunting Rifle/Pipe Bolt-action. It's a lame design choice.

[@damnsonwheredyoufindthis.3830]

Balance but done badly. Better balance would be making 50cal ammo very rare but powerful. Like gauss rifle ammo.

[@pixelmaster9964]

Coco Armas vergas....

[@pixelmaster9964]

Gregory Koven why is it a game???

[@DoctorProph3t]

Someone at Bethesda likes guns but doesn’t know drill-tap from dog shit. *coughToddcough*

[@MumblesMarbleMouth]

Its not. 45 by 70. Its 45/70 (forty-five seventy). 45 caliber bullet over 70 grains of powder. Its the old school way of naming calibers. 30-30 is 30 caliber bullet over 30 grains powder. 44-40 is 44 caliber bullet over 40 grains of powder. The two modern ways is in metric and imperial. The metric way is simply the width of the bullet by how long the cartridge case is. 5.56x45. 5.56mm bullet on a 45mm long case. 7.62x39, 7.62 bullet on a 39mm long case. Then the imperial way is usually the imperial measurement for caliber along with the name of the person or company that created it. .223 Remington, .270 winchester, .308 winchester, .300 Winchester Short Magnum (WSM) .50 Browning Machine Gun (BMG).

[@fajaradi1223]

Sorry mate. We're just a bunch of video game nerds. Not those firearms enthusiast. Thanx for the correction tho.

[@fatherted776]

I actually learned something. Thanks, mate.

[@Yopenberg]

So how old the 45/70 caliber really is?

[@jacrispy3275]

Huh... My head hurts now. Think I need a glass of water...

[@BoboMagroto26]

Always wonder what that meant, thanks :)

[@prime_optimus]

"I wish the shotgun did more ranged damage" Every other gun: that's, why I'm here.

[@obi-wankenobi9984]

I understood that reference

[@youknowwhoitis.itsmyname4746]

@@obi-wankenobi9984 I understood this cameo

[@Deveerox]

I use the .50 Cal in survival. But my argument would be that I don't plan on putting more than 1 round into the enemy. I use my sneak attack bonus with the ninja perk, so the additional damage from .308 to .50 is even greater with the multipler.

[@monsoon5774]

"i wish the SHOTGUN did more ranged damage" Ranged Damage. you hurt my head Puma.

[@spoopykid2413]

You realize shotguns really aren't that inaccurate irl right? They nerf them in games because they rarely kill, and they weren't really meant to kill human targets. They hit things pretty decently at medium range though.

[@hoppie45]

>weren't really meant to kill That's why the German army in WWI tried executing American soldiers found with shotguns (The shotguns were so good for clearing trenches)

[@KangarooKommando]

It's okay.. he issued a trigger warning first (for some reason).

[@rhyliemasons7957]

Spoopy Kid I don't think you'd want to stare down the barrel of a shot gun though, especially if that gun was in a fairly close range 😂

[@bensutcliffe1975]

I suppose you could say a shotgun is very accurate. Chances are you're going to hit someone with at least a couple of pellets. Tje spread on shotguns in games has always been ridiculous and artificial anyway. I blame CoD.

[@Matt-md5yt]

the bowling Ball launcher modification is also bad for survival. it's like the broadsider but fires bowling balls

[@TheBangooman]

Thing is that if you get a two-shot or a neverending it's pretty beast.

[@Matt-md5yt]

TheBangooman yeah

[@lastwolflord]

Yea but who gets that much ammo for it.

[@bloodwolfgaming9269]

@@lastwolflord Getting the two-shot or never-ending perks for one that fires bowling balls is basically a caps farm. Since you can pretty much pick up the bowling balls you fire, you can essentially use the two-shot weapon mod to double your ammo. Then just sell off most the ammo and repeat. Like if you have a settlement with some shops in them, you can just go off in the corner and shoot a shitload of bowling balls and sell the ammo off in bulk.

[@sgtspagsfsm2692]

I like it when someone calls something crap, because it's crap, and they aren't afraid to upset the fan boys...haha. The Sub-machine gun is utter crap.

[@HendorneEndohRoth]

Exactly, I was so disappointed when I saw that the sub-machine gun did the same damage as an automatic pipe weapon. I mean, why?! Why would such an amazing weapon be equal to a pipe gun and have heavier ammo?! It's a waste of .45 rounds!

[@rustyjones7908]

I want it to not be crap, it looks awesome. But it's crap.

[@princessxenomorph8952]

@@rustyjones7908 It’s like the Shishkebab. So cool, but so underpowered.

[@rustyjones7908]

@@princessxenomorph8952 I feel like the shish kabob is less egregious due to how broken melee is. With big leagues, chems, rooted, and blitz you could beat a deathclaw to death with a tea cozy on survival. If you like style over substance melee is way more forgiving. Spray and Pray is useful, but that's more because explosive automatic weapons in general are bonkers.

[@princessxenomorph8952]

@@rustyjones7908 What you have said is true. Chems and alcohol can empower melee to absurd levels (as you stated already). Thanks for the very thoughtful reply.

[@74153080]

The submachine gun it's pretty shit. But the spray and pray... Oh my, is op on survival. I use the weapon until I got A HANDMADE EXPLOSIVE RIFLE WICH IS OP AS HELL

[@A-G-F-]

ok as hell?

[@dabfactory7368]

Ok = Op

[@74153080]

Handsome Jack ye like the bro said. OP lol

[@kratos996149]

i use the spray and pray as an utility : on survival mode at level 143 ghouls are really strong so i shoot the spray and pray on they're feet so i can broke it and then finish them with a melee

[@74153080]

BuBelzelù&SatanicArts Canedio Records. Me to. Not exactly in ghouls, but mireluks. Those bastards. And any high level shit that I see. But the explosive handmade rifle... Oh my... I beat automatron only with that weapon and no power armor (even though I have 9 endurance lol)

[@DLAboom95]

I have got a shotgun with the wounding effect and it is truly amazing. With each pallet hit, it will inflict bleed damage so it is a good option as well

[@rustyjones7908]

I got a plasma infused shotgun my very first playthrough. Much the same in effectiveness

[@samuelecolonna7672]

Bleed effect doesn't stack, just like burn effect. That means an explosive or plasma infused shotgun is going to do a lot more damage.

[@lunarixis9957]

@@samuelecolonna7672 False.

[@samuelecolonna7672]

@@lunarixis9957 Yea my bad got confused with other games. Only burning damage is trash

[@MerlynMusicman]

Current plythrough, found 4 (!) Incendiary Shotguns so far, no wounders pr explo. Kept the Kneecapper Doublebarrelled for dangerous wildlife if I encounter it but looking for my easymode shotgun pls!

[@Captainoob]

I don't understand why they made the Submachine Gun so horrible. 45. Ammo isn't terribly weak irl

[@Judge_Jon]

It's not to bed but any rifle round is going to beat it. In real life it doesn't even beat 9mm which surprises a lot of people till they research it. 10mm irl destroys .45 and both of them annihilate .38.

[@TheoneandonlyGTA]

it's funny cuz in fallout new vegas they were stronger than the light machine gun which fired 5.56's

[@Microtardz]

45 would be awful were the game's scenario to play out IRL. Even basic bitch raiders are wearing some form of armor, and 45 is not good against armor. It's a heavy & slow round, which is good against ballistic gel. But inferior to 9mm when kevlar or any form of armor is involved And as Jon said, any rifle round is going to beat it.

[@thegreycrusader]

Captainoob .45 ACP is slow as a mule but with a kick to match

[@damnsonwheredyoufindthis.3830]

I'm late but its gameplay balance. Submachine guns fire very fast so if it did amazing damage per bullet it would be overpowered. Same for minigun which is quite bad at higher levels but irl is amazing. Most automatic weapons in fallout deal poor damage per bullet. Change the receiver to semi auto but have it use the same ammo? Somehow the gun deals twice the damage now even though only the fire rate changed. If you have commando perks automatic weapons can deal great damage but get rifleman perk, make a gun semi automatic and it deals even more damage per shot. Gameplay balance. Personally I prefer semi auto ones for better recoil and ammo consumption because less bullets will miss. And you deal more damage per same amount of bullets fired. Semi auto weapons still fire quite fast though. Bolt action ones are a bit too slow.

[@oblivionguard2286]

"The cannonball weight is too much!" tell that to some sailors from the 17-18 centuries, they would laugh.

[@damnsonwheredyoufindthis.3830]

I'm late but thing is actual cannon would kill everything it hits in fallout in 1 shot (besides liberty prime but his thinner parts on legs and arms could get bent making the limb useless) and player would get his/her hands ripped off with the kick. For gameplay balance broadsider is weak. Also if you want to get technical even though it was a joke sailors carried 1 cannonball or few in a box not 50 in their pocket.

[@bloodshdalwayz3565]

“Laughs in scurvy”

[@ahzekahriman5840]

Missile launcher? Receiver? HERESY!

[@dariusmeno6194]

lmao

[@Qscraps]

It's too damn heavy.

[@DEMONX62]

go back to finding the black library

[@BoboMagroto26]

You can’t even boost damage (outside of perks), redundant

[@DatShadyGuy]

Makes a video about worst guns in Fallout 4 Survival. Issues a trigger warning. Get it? Trigger warning? :)

[@Semper-S3XY]

Lol... NOT

[@ratboy4036]

soooooooooo funny

[@Shi-Long_Wang]

White people

[@alfiecape406]

Radical Rumpelstiltskin XIV I get that joke

[@z3r0_35]

Surprised the Pipe Revolver didn't make this list.

[@starlightfromabyss4853]

"Shotguns are bad" says he taking down a Deathclaw with it)) X) Well yeah, without legendary effects they aren't all that good. But Justice from Covenant saved my hide manytimes by simply stunlocking strong enemies till they die. Having 200 shotgun shells on ya is not that bad so long you have Deep Pockets mods.

[@matthewwysong644]

Plasma Infused Combat Shotgun... yeah, it does a whole lot more damage than it should.

[@JLConawayII]

No kidding. It's one of my main guns for survival mode.

[@zachmmm6565]

Exploding and Rapid shotgun are op, rapid as long as u have good mods.

[@IsaacSchubert]

An endless breakaction shotty has saved my ass so many times. Pop a jet, unload on the raiders that have swarmed my hiding spot. bambambambambambambambambambambambambambambambambambam Is it usless against armored enemies, or at distance? Yeah, but for those OH SHIT moment, there is no better gun

[@zachmmm6565]

Agreed lol

[@jbjl7210]

"do your carry weight a favor and sell this piece of crap" lol

[@Assassino275]

How the hell would you silence a Harpoon gun?

[@BlueBleedStl]

placing a pillow over every harpoon?

[@Blank0zero]

Fallout 4's shotguns really make me miss new vegas, having alternate shells made it much more useful

[@DEMONX62]

yeah with the different ammo types i went through the whole game just switching ammo types to meet the different situations

[@Blank0zero]

Same as long as I had slug rounds I didn't even need a rifle

[@bensutcliffe1975]

There were a few crashes, but most of them are caused by the auto saving functions which you can turn off.

[@morganpriest7726]

They have low/no armour? Use hollow point! They are a walking tank? Use ap rounds!

[@mrver427]

if you are doing a minutemen play through I would recommend getting reba II since it can destroy the mirelurk queen even at low levels

[@XoRandomGuyoX]

You're using the missile launcher incorrectly. :P The triple and quad barreled modifications are a big waste, weight wise. It's best to stick to the single barrel and use it as a combat initiator against packed clusters of enemies. If you fire a shot in real time and then trigger VATS partway through the reload animation you can fire off a second shot just as the first missile strikes a group of enemies. Most of the time though crippling enemies with the first shot is enough.

[@luigimrlgaming9484]

Why not just spam all 4 missiles at em

[@justasgriskevicius3492]

i was so pissed by the submachine gun so i just opened up geck and made the damage 19 instead of 12. i also made the combat rifle use 5.56 because it's a BAR. also increased shotguns' range, reduced shotgun shell weight by half and made the 50 cal hunting rifle a BEAST. everything's great now =)

[@Jessie_Helms]

A 12 gauge shotgun shot, by definition, takes 12 shells to make a lb... oh Bethesda

[@masterdynamo6457]

12 gauge means that if you took a pound of lead and split it into 12 equal parts, and then made perfect spheres out of your 12 bits of lead, the diameter of one of those spheres is the bore of the barrel...It has nothing to do with the weight of the shell. In fact, 25 shells of buckshot weigh roughly 2.4 lbs, which comes out to 0.096 lbs per shell. In FO4, they weigh 0.1 lbs. That's a difference of about 1.8 grams from real life. Which, sorry to say, is negligible.

[@tumbahantoine2517]

I found a nocturnal harpoon gun, upgraded my heavy weapons, day use is a no go, but at night with the night person perk and all other damage perk made it deadly

[@RedShocktrooperRST]

Probably the biggest gut punch with the Submachine Gun is the fact that it's the only Commando-specific gun in the game. Riflemen have the Hunting Rifle (which is really powerful with the right build) and Lever Action Rifle, Gunslingers have the 10mm, Deliverer, .44 revolver and now the Western Revolver. Hell, the Combat Rifle already is the "assault rifle" type of weapon, being a jack-of-all-trades weapon that can be turned into a sniper rifle (indeed, if you aren't using it as a sniper rifle you're wasting a lot of damage potential with it). They should have just left the Assault Rifle as the Machine Gun to give Commando perk users a second specific weapon. The over all look of the weapon isn't very "Assault Rifle"-y anyway.

[@stefan020290]

that was a big mistake bethesda made. in the game files there alread was a model for the chinese assault rifle. also the assault rifle is called lmg in the game files, which just happens to fit way more.

[@matthewwysong644]

Literally all they would have to do to make it good is have it use 10mm...

[@kopienjoyer16]

.50 round is very long and dangerous in real life. It should have like 140-200 damage

[@iexplodonateri7378]

And blowing apart body parts on crits

[@kristinpeglow519]

The 45 caliber submachine gun is all about using that gangsta tommygun.

[@chobitus1340]

Just watched this not only was it great tips, you are still so funny and fun to watch. Great job please keep them coming I watch your borderland videos also love them and I have never played the game. Thank you

[@phaztom313]

"lever action rifle" Looks up on wall during survival playthrough before level 15 3 legendary lever action rifles before even gone to far harbor. My reaction: Fuck.

[@karelmclean1164]

the reason for the glitchiness of the lever action rifle reload is because of V.A.T.S. It was a problem they had in New Vagas.

[@cloudyvortex]

I think it's a limitation of the engine. They can't customize a reload animation for differing amounts of reload. That's why they have detachable box mags for bolt-actions and why they just reskinned the S&W .44 for the Western Revolver instead of using the Colt SAA. Now why they didn't just use a stripper clip speedloader for the lever-action, I don't know.

[@animatorbug]

Saying that they cant have a reload animation that changes for differing amounts of ammo is ridiculous. There were weapons all over New Vegas that had this type of reload (cowboy repeater, .357 revolver, hunting shotgun, to name a few). I'm sure that if the weapons on an older version of the engine could do it, new ones definitely could. Personally, I just think Bethesda doesn't like doing it. None of their weapons in Fallout 3 were loaded a round at a time, and the only one in Fallout 4 has a botched reload.

[@veraducks]

The problem is that the Bethesda engine was made made for Skyrim, and doesn't have hand-loaded weapons coded into it, nor does the engine itself come equipped to deal with the issue. This was discovered by modders when trying to figure out why things like the upgraded Broadsider had this issue. The thing is that NV's engine and 4's engines aren't actually direct upgrades to each other, but wholly different entities. It's really just a bad move on Bethesda's part.

[@fregyt]

Really good vids! keep it up!

[@janwaclawik6518]

Not only I gave you a like, but I've also subbed. Keep doing what you're doing, mate.

[@duanewente457]

I agree even for normal mode.. Although Le Fusil Terribles or the spray and pray are my go-to's when I get in a combat bind. the .50 is so underpowered it's depressing. It should be a one-shot head shot rifle at the very least.

[@DEMONX62]

50 cal should be a 1 shot rifle to majority of the enemy characters. 50cal will rip apart people and disable armored vehicles irl

[@bigbrowntau]

9mm pistols have about 60 Joules of energy at the muzzle.....50cal rifles....27,000 Joules of energy. Yep, the .50cal has been nerfed badly!

[@TheUserid82]

If you like the spray and pray try the kiloton radium rifle from far harbor's children of atom. .45 ammo with the explosive legendary. 42 ballistic, 50 rad and the 15 explosive splash.

[@SixballQ45]

it is when you get the right perks for it.. at the beginning of the game, maybe not.. but get the sneaks (sneak/sandman/ninja) (agility), better crits / crit banker (luck) and sniper/explosives (perception) w/ an explosive or instigating legendary, the lone wanderer lvl3-4 (charisma) (maybe squeeze in mccreadys perk) and you can one-shot the nukalurk queen, on survival in Nuka-world. take your hidden head shot, guaranteed crit, a lil explosive action and POP.. one shot, one kill (even with the crappy vanilla ballistics)

[@liquidsleepgames3661]

@@DEMONX62 in the words of sterling archer im spooning a .50cal i could kill a building.

[@brandonmyers1876]

A missile launcher with perks can one shot almost anything: And if you make an infinite carry weight build the weight of the missiles doesn't matter. Even if you only carry four missiles at a time its enough firepower to get you out of most situations.

[@Forkontheleft]

carry that inside, with a hundred ghouls runnin for your butt

[@Jlevesque7]

I subscribed keep up the good workAll so make a top 10 best unique guns in fallout 4

[@thepaintjobber]

IMHO the.45 SMG is really useful for (at least outside of survival mode) quick room/corridor sweepings, or when a big monster has you in a corner. With my play style that happens more often than it should though.

[@casualsleepingdragon8501]

8:36 thats the ecsact rifle my sniper character uses down to the scope

[@TheMakuta345]

.50 cal rifles are bad? Tell that to my 2,727 damage 'Rainmaker' .50 rifle!

[@SiriusMined]

how did you get the damage so high?

[@TheMakuta345]

37 = .308 damage 64 = .50 damage x2 rifleman x1.25 lone wanderer x5.4 sneak +1 .308 bullet from two shot effect. Two Shot: (((64 x 2) + (37 x 2)) x 1.25) x 5.4 = 1,363.5 Survival difficulty: 1,363.5 x 2 = 2,727 damage Oh and that's without any critical damage.

[@whiteghost1980]

the first shoot ..after that all enemy rush to you..and then?

[@TheMakuta345]

Low Kin Yee Well the one I shot is paste, if not then the headshot perk I have will ragdoll them ready to be finished off. As for the rest they have no idea where I am seeing as Rainmaker is silenced and I'm at the maximum stealth level attainable. So the rest you ask? Rinse and repeat, bang, bang, bang.

[@iexplodonateri7378]

@@TheMakuta345 Two shot is actually ([Base Weapon Damage]+[Current Weapon Damage])/2 per shot. My Instigating does more damage granted you're at full health.

[@johngun7418]

oh I see now, just watching the lever action rifle reload annoyed the shit out of me

[@blackmagicr33dm]

I've used the .50 cal sniper for awhile, granted I use a legendary one (either explosive or slow time on sighted) I understand the problems it faces yet I get one shots on almost all opponents except the big bads (behemoths, queens, etc.) even legendaries get one shot. Not for everyone but any sniper build could use it. This is my own opinion in contrast to the videos. Either one is correct and point of view and need is key. Choose whatever you want however you want to do it.

[@iexplodonateri7378]

I used an Instigating .50 Hunting rifle I found until I could replace it with a Gauss Rifle

[@rigney8707]

The lever action rifle is great on non survival mode if you can find a never ending legendary

[@74153080]

Easy think to do for sure

[@TheHUEZOX]

"lets see if we get 800 likes" gets almost twice that amount xD

[@josephcalabrese6337]

The best way to get by with over encumbrance in this game. Is to heavily invest in the Strong Back perk and action point related perks. You trade the ability to sprint for the ability to carry as much inventory items as you please.

[@bloodwolfgaming9269]

Just found an Irradiating Missile Launcher off a Legendary Raider yesterday. Can't wait to try it out.

[@FireTrainer92]

Lever Actions shouldn't even be on this list. Old Reliable is probably the best rifle damage wise behind the Gauss Rifle.

[@caelodevorago608]

Like he said, it's the ammo weight for survival. You can do more damage per pound of ammo with other guns

[@trevynlane8094]

I think that the single shot rifle damage goes qauss rifle, 6 crank laser musket, then Old Reliable. And yes, I know the laser musket is technically shooting 6 shots at once, but it is still a single attack.

[@sebastianvaldesbotero851]

I think Vynilic Puma was raped by a Submachine Gun as a child xD

[@justanator0446]

Sebastian Valdes Botero lol

[@jacrispy3275]

Ew. Thanks for that image...

[@ImaGoofyGoober0]

Does the Shotgun count as a rifle on the RifleMan perk?

[@iexplodonateri7378]

It does, as long as you don't make it automatic.

[@kobec216]

Him: Combat Shotgun is underwhelming compared to other guns Also him: *proceeds to massacre all the deathclaws*

[@TomMD]

.45-70 Is not pronounced ".45 by 70" the "70" is not a measurement of the cartridge, its the amount of powder.

[@thegreycrusader]

Thomas Dolan I always wondered what the 70 in .45-70 stood for....so does that mean that .45 Colt, .45 ACP, and .454 Casull can be fired from anything that shoots .45-70 such as the BFR?

[@michaelenright4546]

Thomas Dolan I mean you can say it both ways it’s just kinda weird to say by 70. I mean, the AK shoots 7.62 by 39, and you say it as such

[@michaelenright4546]

The Third Crusader no, unless it’s a revolver. This is because while the round would be the same diameter, a 45. ACP in a 45/70 rifle would not work because the chamber is not designed for a shorter round

[@SixballQ45]

if its slightly shorter, you can fire it through the larger chambers in a pinch. .308 chamber will fire a 7.62x39 cartridge easily, also its like 5.56 and the .223.. ijs

[@epicsheepgamer7002]

I think the cryolater is pretty bad :/

[@cameronmalkoske8461]

It’s actually a decent weapon. While it may not be as useful as some other weapons, it’s a great weapon for early game and actually makes a lot of enemies die instantly, and with the right upgrades, it can fair against enemies with high damage resistances. My only complaint with the weapon is the fact that cryo cells are hard to find, but either then that, it’s actually a pretty decent weapon

[@BoboMagroto26]

The cryolater isn’t too bad... but I would agree with Puma about its big flaw, ammo supply

[@pipp6444]

I've seen dirty versions of that synth helmet how did you get it clean when I go in insitute the guy doesn't sell it

[@tigtrager6923]

For all the weapons and their pros and cons, I've never understood why Bethesda never made headshots an instant kill. And that's with any weapon at any level, and regardless of perks. A headshot is a headshot.

[@Tyler_Lalonde-]

i agree with you although i still love my rocket launcher. i dont get why they left the submarine gun with dead soldiers. it doesn't fit the timeline and it is so bad no one would pick it up.

[@oaksparoakspar3144]

How does it not fit the timeline? Tommys were primarily used during WW2, but they were still in service in Korea and Nam.

[@Tyler_Lalonde-]

but not by the great war. they just didnt want to leave strong weapons around.

[@Deathmaster2100]

id use that as my main weapon bro tommy for life!

[@Tyler_Lalonde-]

Ranger Flash thats fine i love it to but i was just pointing out how it doesn't make sense.

[@DVW666]

+Tyler Lalonde sorry but here did you get that info about the tommy gun? I just asking because never saw anything about dat in any fallout game, what I have be seeing is bethesda frelling up the original lore

[@egr1957]

This list amuses me because I beat the game in survival mode and my main weapons were instigating missile launcher, Justice, Spray and Pray and a Two-Shot Laser Rifle. Apparently this guy struggled in survival mode, its so easy to get carry weight. Power armor, modded power armor legs, strong back, lone wanderer (Or a robot companion with hydraulic armor), Strength gear, pocket mods, consumables...

[@megalord2331]

I...realistically don't see how you got around doing anything in the game with the kind of weight you must of been packing around. Unless you trimmed down everything to the bare essentials. At 10STR, you have around 175CW. With Max Strong Back, you'd be 235CW. Lone Wanderer, 260CW Now for gear, you're likely wearing T1 Leather Armor with either of the Army Fatigues or the Baseball Uniform. So, that combined you'd be at +45CW for 305CW, already taking into account weight of the associate gear. If you got the bobblehead and used the SPECIAL! book glitch, you'll have 325CW. Now, considering you have mentioned consumables, I'm assuming you mean Buffout and Radstag Steaks, only adding...45CW for 370CW, but the amount of Buffout you'd need to keep that for an extended period of time would be outrageous, especially the water cost. Let's say you have...3CW of Buffout at any time, that means you'll be wasting nearly 30-40CW on water alone since I'm sure it either inflicts Parched or Thirsty like most drugs, which means you go back down to 327CW. Another 1CW for RadAway, 1CW for Rad-X, 3CW on Stimpaks: 322CW. Maybe 10CW for RS Steaks: 312CW another 20CW for other foods: 292CW. Now we can finally get to the weapons. Missile Launcher: We'll say you have only the Stabilizer and Scope mods to keep weight as low as possible, so 29.5CW: 270.5CW. For the Combat shotgun, let's say you got most mods for this, 21CW: 249.5CW. For Spray 'N' Play, you kept it as bought but maybe added a sight, 20CW: 229.5CW. Laser Rifle, most mods again for mid range combat, 7.5CW: 222CW. Now, the real kicker, Ammo. We're gonna say 5 reloads worth of ammo for each weapon, so: Missles, 35CW. .45, 14.5CW. MFCells, 4.5CW. Shotgun Shells, 6CW. A grand total of 60CW, so 162CW. Now most of this is just estimates based off of assumptions. There's more consumables that add Strength, but most, if not all, cause some form of Thirst upon consumption, so for every consumable the adds strength, you need to carry an extra 1-2 water. Even then, most only last 10 or so minutes. The thing is, this isn't sustainable in Survival Mode, especially if you are trying to sustain the Carry Weight.

[@egr1957]

Had to pull up my old save. :P So... First off your calculations as to my weight limit are wrong. I am str 8 with gear (Shadowed with army fatigues comes to 32 pounds), two ranks strong back +50, Lone wanderer +100 unless I bring my robot with me. If I do its no Lone wanderer but he can carry 300 pounds with sentry bot hydraulic gear on a Mr. Handy Base. Fully kited out I am at 260/255 with no power armor. Thats with all 4 weapons fully upgraded besides the missile launcher that has the single missile capacity. In Sentinel Brotherhood Power Armor I am at 260/397 (+300) or just +497 with Lone Wanderer. The power armor has calibrated legs for more capacity. Thats all with 200-500 shots for the 3 guns and 5 missles, 4 fusion cores and enough food/water/supplies to keep me going for a few days, longer if I scavenge. I also have max ammo scavenger perk. Also you severely over estimate how much spare meds/chems/food you need to keep you going.

[@megalord2331]

Okay, yeah, I figured my calculations would be off considering most of it was going off of assumptions of a best case scenario build, which you obviously aren't running. I can see why you mentioned Power Armor since you only have 8STR since PA sets the player STR to 11. Unless you have Lead Belly, I honestly don't see how I've over estimated the amount of water you'd need to carry for all of the consumables you'd possibly be taking. Then again, if you're running around with a companion, this whole argument is moot considering that directing a companion to pick up something causes them to ignore their carry weight, allowing the player to effectively use companions as mobile storage chests.

[@egr1957]

I played the first... 1/2 to 2/3 of the game without a companion, it wasn't until Automatron came out with a build-a-bot thing I bothered to get one, hes got the sentry bot voice and doesn't make rude comments when I pick up an aluminum cans or needs me to Commander Shepard their life choices. But anyways hes got 300 weight capacity so I don't need to do that glitch that I didn't know about to begin with. I usually don't do chems unless I think I am going to die and I have max chemist anyways so they last forever. Also using the upgraded blood packs are far superior to stimpacks and weigh .1 weight and don't make you thirsty. Finally I will point out to you again I beat the game, so I am not really interested in your optimal case scenario. Good day to you sir.

[@bancebobain]

Eric Rogers i dont use power armor thats prolly why its harder for me.

[@Furahri]

Since you pointed out that you always reload 5 bullets with the lever-action rifle, why didn't you point out that you always reload one cannon ball with the Broadsider?

[@Tuskor130]

In regards to the shotgun part, a shotgun with the Bleed effect adds a stack of bleed for every pellet/projectile that hits the target. So you can just as easily have a shotgun with Bleed and have the same effect as Explosive. In fact, bleed might be better since it's potentially more common of an effect to find.

[@chumanzky9862]

top 10 best explosives for survival mode ?

[@chumanzky9862]

i think it would be a good idea

[@74153080]

I think that fallout 4 has only 15 explosives. I think that top 5 would be better

[@Areanyusernamesleft]

Or he could probably just do a list ranking them all, since there are so relatively few.

[@oaksparoakspar3144]

(1) Handmade Rifle (2) Kiloton / Radium Rifle (3) Assault Rifle (4) Combat Rifle (5) Combat Shotgun (6) Pipe Gun (7) Mini Gun (8) Spray and Pray / Submachine Gun (9) 10mm (10) Double Barreled Shotgun

[@74153080]

Areanyusernamesleft rank all would be to much in my opinion lol

[@MF.Shadow]

Help get this comment to vynlic. To get the strongest fat man get the big boy from the man in diamond city and get the nuka nuke launcher from the dlc nuka world and remove the nuka nuke attachment and put it on the big boy.

[@paake3134]

What armor are you wearing at 9:05? looks sick, also nice vids.

[@fryjohans9545]

Hate that SMG too, funny thing is, if there was any gun durability in the game, it wouldn`t be that bad.

[@charleshaskett9629]

Your carry weight per shot equation makes no sense, I really didn't agree with your logic. This was a video about which ammo weighs the least, not which weapons are tactically inefficient. Try telling me that the shotgun is ineffective in a hallway or in a sewer. That being said, this is a very well made video, I just don't agree with your logic.

[@cameronmalkoske8461]

Charles Haskett I think you might’ve misunderstood, which is totally fine. It took me a bit as well. I think, It’s not about which ammo weighs the least, it’s more on what guns you should avoid in terms of ammo, along with some other problems but that’s just me

[@vrrdragon]

*_Saved half way from Sanctuary to Diamond City_* tried Survival, fought across to Diamond city, died to a random bottlecap mine. tried again, died to illness tried again, random molotov from bridge fell on my head. tried again, reached the outskirts of Diamond city, and a random supermutant headshot me *_quit the game ;c_*

[@VAULT-TEC_INC.]

Some Delicious Crisp Perfectly Aged Potatoes. Wuss. Should've saved at the NUMEROUS beds, mattresses and sleeping bags on the way to Diamond City.

[@vrrdragon]

***** but normally they involved enemies ;c

[@Baguette_Boye]

WOAAAH THAT LAST ONE U GOT HIT BY SUPERMUTANT BY HIM DOING A HEADSHOT?!

[@Baguette_Boye]

well u got hit u did not hit him

[@vrrdragon]

Yeshwanth Seeruttun ?

[@francis6888]

Is it possible to do a complete comparison of all armor pieces from both the vanilla game as well as DLC and whether or not they are good for Survival Mode?

[@glez13gt]

Aren't two shot shotguns still glitched? As in they just add one extra pellet?

[@koalasy2228]

Wow. And I thought these are the best weapons.

[@ForgotVaultOfficial]

Same!

[@PandaKing550]

I mean if it works for you, do it

[@bloodwolfgaming9269]

It all honestly comes down to what you prefer and how you build your character overall. Something like a long rifle is going to be rather weak if you don't take any of the rifleman perks to accompany it. Same thing for melee weapons. If you have a strong solid melee build and a pretty good melee weapon to back it up, you can wreck shop. But unless you have the right perks to back up your character build, you might as well be using the security baton you get from Vault 111 to fight the enemies you'd face at lvl 100.

[@jacupedwards4535]

"trigger warning" boi those are only for sjw's

[@usmcsgt46359]

hey good job for trying to keep up with your upload. thou are going thou a hard time. just keep your head up and keep going.

[@scottwinfrey519]

I remember being lucky enough to get an instigating lever action to drop from a gulper in far harbor.

[@Andreyu-il1nr]

Hi how do you get the lever action. Rifle?

[@terrorism7015]

"ive noticed that the fat man usually one shots anything" *only does 50% damage*

[@bloodwolfgaming9269]

It's because it was a legendary enemy. They can end up with crazy damage resistances, especially after they mutate. Then again...he isn't actually playing on Survival Mode so he isn't doing the extra damage that you would in Survival Mode.

[@SiriusMined]

Spray and Pray is great early and mid-game. I got lucky in my current survival mode game and bought it from Cricket, and I was unstoppable for a long time. Your point about the upgraded .38 automatic pipe rifle is a good one, but think of how many perks that takes. Also, you can farm .45 from the vault near the railroad headquarters.

[@insertpersonhere4871]

You should make a list for non-survival. I imagine it'd be a lot different, lots of these weapons are actually pretty good when not on survival. (though none of them can match my instigating laser musket.)

[@AnomalyAlter]

Additionally for the shotgun, modifiers like Bleeding and Plasma also work incredibly well. Bleeding especially since it does more damage than explosive, albeit lingering damage. I play survival and I personally don't go anywhere without my staggering double barrel. The legendary effect aside, I prefer the double barrel to the combat shotgun. It is technically inferior, though I find it is a good conditioner for accuracy. Since it's less efficient to use, you'll be sure you place those shots well. With the combat shotgun I find that I come to use ammo more liberally and am less accurate in each shot. There's also the style factor of using a break-barrel weapon in general that I just adore

[@ZeroFighter]

In my game, I put short everything on my combat shotgun, slapped a bayonet on it, fitted it with a quick-change drum magazine, and made it hit as hard as I could with the receiver modifications. I then called it the 'Trench Gun'. It's ideal only for close-quarter- almost exclusively interior- engagements, and is really only in my equipment list for when I know I'm going some place cramped. The Railway Rifle, I just sort of slapped that up onto a display rack. Harpoon Gun, yeah, you said it pretty much perfectly. Anything firing mini-nukes or their variants... Novel and fun to use when dicking about in with 'tgm', but otherwise, they're really only effective in wide open areas, when you have the high ground, and the enemies don't know you're their, AND when they're all bunched up. 10/10 Would put on display rack again. Honestly, the load screen descriptor of the Broadsider said it best. 'The Broadsider is the answer to that age-old question: "Would it be fun to walk around and shoot people with a portable naval cannon?" Yes. Yes it would.' Ah, the Repeater. Found one of these, cut off the stock, trimmed the barrel, and maxed out the damage with the receiver; called it the 'Cavalry Carbine'. Again, somewhat novel, but it can be fun to set the mood for just setting out to scavenge some stuff, taking only your trusty 'carbine' and a bag of rounds on your hip. Again though, I have to clarify that it's part of setting a mood. If you're not in the mood to escape from reality for a couple hours, I agree; don't bother with this weapon. I'd love to disagree with you on the rifles, but you do make valid points. Still, the way I look at it, you have to be a higher level, and have picked up very specific perks to up your damage- Sniper, Ninja, etc...- to get the most out of the .50 cal. Pipe pistols are just shitty all around; look shitty, act shitty. Anyway, yeah, without a bunch of perks, the rifles will play second banana to a lot of other weapons in almost every scenario. Still, there's nothing quite like sitting on a hilltop, squatting next to a blasted tree stump, and just picking off blurry Super Mutants as they scramble to figure out where you're shooting from. Missile Launcher. 10/10 IGN. I think we both rest our cases. And in case I'm not being clear, we're on the same side here. The Tommy Gun. But, but... It's da Turmmy Gurn! Yeah, it looks pretty, and... Yeah. Not good for when every ounce matters. Cut and dry.

[@FritiFirecaster]

I could be mistaken, but can't you craft cannon balls from bowling balls? Doesn't that affect the cost/round analysis?

[@c0mplex956]

Are you also gonna make Fallout 3/New Vegas videos or just stick to Fallout 4?

[@jakestockton4808]

The spray-n-pray is my all-time favorite weapon in the game.

[@13thSystem]

Missile launcher is a cheap way to explosives, even cheaper than grenades but way stronger and longer range. It's a weapon for certain situations but definitely not a bad gun, I'd say the plain minigun is worse, that thing won't even hit anything farther than a few blocks away and eats bullets by the hundreds.

[@santroxg287]

About hunting rifle: I installed a couple of mods that change the skin, damage of .50 Cal and adds better range to rifleman perk (like gunslinger perk). With base damage perks, it can deal 250 damage per shot, not being better than the Gaus rifle with 500 damage per shot but lighter and with common ammo after lvl 28. I love it.

[@ApolloTheDerg]

When I did the silver shroud mission that's when I first noticed how bad the smg was, like it took nearly 2 mags to kill the guy.

[@sirmarvelous7282]

The fatman isnt a conventional weapon your not going to whip it out on some lvl1 raider

[@nevincox8205]

can anyone tell me if there is a way to acctually save in survival mode (not auto save via beds) to allow me to swap saves and go down separate paths

[@isyaboi4398]

It's funny, just as he was talking about the glitchy rifle, my WiFi started to glitch

[@the_officials38]

I have a Feeling you are gonna add Fat Man to the List. (Watches the video) I KNEW IT!!!

[@buildawall5803]

Fat man + big boy arturo got your back

[@Foxxie0kun]

I figure the SMG/Pistol weapon class would be a lot better given more variety, like a 10mm SMG/Carbine, 12.7mm Pistol/SMG/Carbine, etc. A lot of missed potential, especially since the 10mm SMG has been in Fallout titles alongside the 10mm pistol since Fallout 1.

[@aubreyhuff46]

I don't use the fatman very often. How many people actually use the fatman as a main weapon?

[@Komamuram]

Omg.. at 9:05 you launch the suppressor in VATs! Hahaha! :-)