Trail Damage | Jeep Wrangler vs VW Touareg See Which One We Break First!

[@ronsmith7880]

Excellent video...thanks for bringing out the car..I was Super impressed by what it can do..Thanks Roman..Thanks Tommy...you guys went above n beyond on this video..Awesome stuff.

[@TFLcar]

Thanks for the kind comments. This video was a great team effort. The videographers and editors knocked it out of the ballpark!

[@fl350r]

@@TFLcar Loved the introduction graphics.

[@angelinacoto4435]

@@TFLcar Rocio durcal

[@angelinacoto4435]

Rocio durcal

[@E-Talk.]

Forget about Touareg crossover shape, underneath it is a true off-road beast! Nice video

[@AG-jh1ky]

Roman you keep praising the jeep,but I'm more impressed with the Volkswagen

[@memopadilla5931]

Yeah BECAUSE of the age of the VW AND it was'nt as purpose built as the Jeep but it was pretty much as capable although not as easily capable. But for the age and the freakin' price.. the VW WINS IMO. NOW.. We need to get the BRAND NEW EURO TOUAREG over to the U.S> www.volkswagen.de/de/modelle-und-konfigurator/touareg.html?modelId=CR745J%24GYOYYOY&modelYear=2020&modelVersion=1&exteriorId=F14+0Q0Q&interiorId=F56+++++VM

[@Qp0int]

Yeah, was curious if they received some sponsorship from dodge as ‘influencers’. Prior videos more or less praise the VWs performance for what it is... I definitely can not see myself spending $40k+ on a Jeep Wrangler/ Rubicon. Recently, I saw a Rubicon truck at the dealership for $67k.. I would not spend that much on something to beat the shit out of it.

[@dudehi3317]

Same here lol

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

@@Qp0int buy a used side by side, you won't be disappointed...

[@michelekalmandi8211]

iff you stop with VW on EVERY 10 cm on this road, .............it was not profesional sory, and not fair.

[@helloworld8136]

That Tuareg is living it's best best life

[@OutlawFarmersRC]

Time for a Jeep Grand Cherokee Trailhawk vs Volkswagen Touareg video!!!!

[@tapiwabaatgies9199]

Chris Barr that would be an awesome video

[@Whiteandsonsgarage]

Chris Barr that would be a bit closer to each other

[@Whiteandsonsgarage]

Thorsten yes definitely, that would so much closer

[@Whiteandsonsgarage]

Ben Bla I think so

[@kenj7153]

Use a Trackhawk just to see if that monster could do it. "Gee Tommy you scratched the paint on a $100,000.00 Jeep Grand Cherokee Trackhawk think insurance will cover it?"...LOL!

[@jjmarz1001]

I think it's fair to say the Touareg has earned some armor. Also. The engine noise on the Wrangler going downhill was disturbing.

[@nec135]

The fan is a bit loud at low speeds, but it's doing a lot of work, it's cooling the turbo, the intercooler, radiator, the etorque battery pack, AC, etc. Having driven one for a few days in 100+ TX heat it never let the coolant levels go above 200F. I wanted to hate the engine because my initial reaction was that the whole system is a bit overdesigned, but it kind of won me over for the period that I had it. I hope it turns out to be a reliable long term engine package.

[@angelgjr1999]

Big SUVs had big fans. My Ford Explorer also had a big van. Just keep an eye on that coolant temperature.

[@BobStoneBoi]

Sad the engineers thought a 4 cylinder should go in a jeep. Should be a 4 cylinder diesel, and a v6 gas. Not 4 cylinder gas, terrible choice.

[@williamg8853]

@@BobStoneBoi At 12k feet, you'll appreciate the turbo...power doesn't fall off the way a NA engine does.

[@chir0pter]

@@angelgjr1999 wouldn't a big fan going slower be quieter than a small fan moving faster

[@MrLangDog]

The Wrangler took a little better lines on some obstacles...I am impressed ..AGAIN...with the VW.

[@ferdjanklow3566]

For less than ten percent of the cost of the Jeep. I'll take the Toe Rag every time.

[@markmcgrath9098]

Damn it! I thought I was being the original thinker with that name!😂🤣

[@lrosengreen]

You guys hit it out of the park with this one. Now please excuse me while I switch to another browser tab and shop for good used Touareg.

[@c.j.2425]

Your comparing a 13 year old Touareg with a brand new jeep! I'd say the touareg won by far. Try doing a same year comparison.. That shows you how capable a Touareg really is. It goes head to head with vehicles a decade newer!

[@jarredl990]

The thumbnail literally says “old vs new” .....

[@humzilla707]

13 year old Rubicon would make no difference

[@TheEasyRail]

Newer Touaregs can't do what that older generation was possible. VW has dumbed it down focusing more on the on-road performance

[@Ryno-fp7pm]

A 2004 Wrangler would still do better than the Touareg. ANY year Wrangler/CJ with locking front and rear diffs would do better than the Touareg.

[@lumpskie]

@trublu97 But you could buy a CJ, install lockers and still be under $4600.

[@Billy123bobzzz]

The Touareg did just fine, it got to the top of the mountain just fine. The moment where it touched borrow slightly and tapped the tree with the minor are not problems, the Touareg is a bigger vehicle so that will happen to all bigger vehicles, the Jeep ran a better line (if u look at the video you can see that the Jeep received better directions from the navigator than the Touareg received, so the Touareg was aligned poorly to go over that rock). We can also see that the Touareg has a much more comfortable ride, which is important because the Jeep has a severely kidney busting ride that just beats up your body as you get older). The Touareg also has plastic parts that can be superglued or replaced, so that is the same as the Jeep, but of course VW prices might be higher but if it is then you can simply pick up your plastic at a junkyard since this is an off-road vehicle, it does not matter if the colors don't match and it doesn't matter if it is scraped up either, off road vehicles should look like they go off-road every day.

[@dzelpwr]

Maybe Roman is the better spotter and Tommy a better pilot for the Touareg. Would have been interesting had Roman been piloting the Wrangler and Tommy the Touareg, which would mean the spotter roles also reverse. Tommy also seems to have more experience with the Touareg at this point. Maybe he's got a slightly better feel for it than Roman does now?

[@Billy123bobzzz]

@@dzelpwr You're right!

[@Mojo522]

I'm very impressed by the Volkswagen Touareg. (Go VDUB✌)

[@Offshore1977]

Mojo522 Until it’s time to fix when it breaks down.

[@Whiteandsonsgarage]

Mojo522 definitely, with a couple of mods it be so good

[@kenj7153]

Agree 100%

[@GIGABACHI]

In dah haus ! Time to un-pimp das auto. 😆

[@GarryMcGovern]

@@Offshore1977 Riiiiight, because Jeep reliability is so legendary: 8th FROM BOTTOM in latest 2019 JD Power Reliability Survey, and that is actually an improvement on 2018, when it was 4th......... FROM BOTTOM! 😂😂😂

[@kylewhisman]

one of your best series and best choices of cars. Love the touareg

[@mattheiustwittyham5501]

The Touareg is very capable for what it is. The main difference is in 15 years the Jeep will still sell for half of the original msrp. Where as the vw is only worth 4600.00 approximately 1/8th it’s original msrp.

[@thawk1435]

15 years might be a bit of a stretch there. 🙃 🙃 🙃

[@callawaysc6065]

@@thawk1435 It would be close. My 10 year old Rubicon Unlimited was just over 30k new and NADA has it valued at just over $20,000 and it has over 120k miles on it. They have to be in good condition for sure.

[@lbcntx9169]

Depends on where you live, in west Texas 2006 wranglers with 250,000+ miles still go for around 20k

[@callawaysc6065]

@Leo Worth Your entitled to your own opinion just like us. But the FACTS are Wranglers hold their value better than almost any other vehicle. FACTS are FACTS regardless if you think they are junk. I love the fact that I can drive my 4door Rubicon through the woods and streams, over rocks and logs, and beat the crap out of it and then drive to work. I am on my 5th Wrangler and they have all been very reliable. I have also always made a profit when selling them. As I said, feel free to have your own opinion.

[@markgosser9578]

john rubitron I just sold my 07 unlimited with 78k miles for $13,500 buying it new for $25 and trading at a dealer my wife’s 17 rubicon unlimited for 31k and buying a Gladiator Launch Addition for 58k. Maybe the JT won’t hold its value like the Wrangler but I’m willing to take the chance. Jeeps hold there value better then Toyota’s

[@michaelball693]

Love my Touareg with air suspension. Looks identical to yours they are amazing cars. Loved the video.👍 You have the roof bars the wrong way round or back to front. At speed they will whistle like mad the way you have them installed. If you look behind the flap where the lock is you will see an arrow that should point to the front of the car. 👍

[@TFLcar]

Thanks for the heads-up

[@BATworkshop]

are you using first gear in the touareg? when in low range is starts in 2nd gear by default and you have to use the shifter to command 1st gear. it will help you tremendously. I used this a lot with my V10 touareg years ago offroad.

[@Cjppv]

Sometimes people don't even read the user manuals, I think that's Roman's case...cause that touareg is even more capable that they showed

[@chrisgleeton6823]

Tommy is the one who's been doing most of the videos with the Touareg, and I feel like he's the type to read the manuals and otherwise research the hell out of whatever vehicle he's driving...he's just a nerd like that. I often hearing Tommy telling his Dad what to do, what features to activate, etc.

[@val-xo7ud]

somedude did I read that correctly. V10 engine?

[@spencerali1659]

@@val-xo7ud They were available with a bonkers V10 diesel, yes

[@Cjppv]

@@val-xo7ud evento v12 on some markets

[@lorrinrodrigueshs-bcp192]

The Touareg has "Down Hill Assist"- just square-off with the fall-line, take your foot off the pedal and your hands off the wheel...practically...the owner's manual states "maximum permitted grade" is 45 degrees when following the fall-line, 35 degrees when crossing a slope.

[@josuet.zambrano4441]

I dont know but Tommy should have driven the Touareg. Better driver for the less capable vehicle.

[@jedironin380]

Not so sure about the "less capable" part... ;)

[@The_Osprey]

Same thing I was thinking. Roman is NOT a good driver. He loves cars but doesn't seem to be the most skilled at driving.

[@Spike-13]

At least tommy is lighter lol the VW is heavier so why weigh it down with a heavier driver?

[@meehow3694]

Why put the heavier guy in the heavier car???? Unfair disadvantage to the VW!!!

[@Cjppv]

The weight is not a problem for air suspension cars, it self level

[@PhillProbst]

Not bad considering the Tuareg is more about North African dessert than boulder strewn extreme trails.

[@ShadowSkillUp]

Well the Touareg wasnt even desinged for desert or Offroading at all, it was desinged as a Streetcar which can go fast and have all luxury while Sitting high xD and a bit for towing big Trailers

[@ericksanchez7787]

@@ShadowSkillUpwell it was designed to be good on road and offroad which it is really hard because they both don't go hand to hand

[@mountainmanjim6366]

This is only 20 miles from my house. I love it. Waiting on a new radiator, new rack and pinion and I'll be taking my Titan pro4x up there. What a fantastic trail and view!!!

[@HALWG51]

During my years with the gas company in WV, I did a lot of off roading in very steep terrain. Back in the day we didn't have hill decent control on vehicles. I always found the downhill rides the most challenging and the few times I almost rolled a vehicle were going down steep, slippery hills. They are butt clenching.

[@martinnightingale6033]

I love my Touareg . You should have got the 3.0 V6 tdi , by far the best one . 225bhp 500 ft/lbs of torque. Mine has just tripped over to 143000 miles . Never lets me down . Only mod . 18" rims with All terrain tyres . It goes everywhere I need to go . Gives me 35mpg too .

[@rickreid81]

The Jeep gets 1st place. But that VW was the winner of the day in my book. That was impressive for a large suv. Coutos to VW!

[@albertlandry463]

koodoos

[@lalitkishore2979]

Kudos

[@thomasmoffett4331]

WOW! that was great. I was gonna sell my 06 V10 TDI (Torque Monster) Touareg but now I think I will get off road tires and do some exploring here.

[@infidel24]

The entire time you basically complained about the touareg! But in the end it got you there and back.

[@adisaoloko]

I think he spends too much time complaining than driving. Tommy should have handled the Tuareg

[@marcusstrothers7979]

He praises dodge everytime

[@albertlandry463]

super nice guy, but wet paper bag.too fragile.

[@robertmorris3892]

Check your recalls on the Rubicon. There are a series of 2019 Jeep Wranglers with defective steering parts causing major instability while driving.

[@Agent.K.]

Robert Morris Yes

[@Whiteandsonsgarage]

Robert Morris yeah I’ve heard about that, they are giving everyone free steering stabilizer

[@vanceertel5931]

Jeeping Down Under ...and it still doesn’t help. The JL steering sucks below 60 and is dangerous any faster than that. I’ll take TJ death wobble over JL slack.

[@thegutterpunk00]

Happens with virtually any solid front axle... Death wobble is a fact of life. Happened in the TJ's and JK's as well.

[@barrycampbell4933]

thegutterpunk00 Q

[@mikec3454]

Man you guys are putting a smile on every Touareg owner out there - and after their repair bills, they needed this! lol

[@antonch.657]

Wow, really impressive work by VW Touareg and you guys! Keep rockin!

[@stephenjones6902]

Excellent video guys the VW did a great job based on its on road capability

[@Offshore1977]

Great video 👍 I do miss seeing the Samurai. The Wrangler fan noise is because Jeep knows that cooling is essential, especially when crawling off-road.

[@Whiteandsonsgarage]

LSanti they definitely need it

[@okigojuryu]

It still is kinda loud tho, the fans in the hummers for example didn't make THAT much noise and keeps the vehicle nice and cool, and to my knowledge the wrangler jk didn't make that much noise eather, so it seems more like a corner cut tbh. I wouldn't mind the noise however, just let's ya know it works.

[@Eightball2516]

Unlock the front lockers from the Jeep and do it again and see how it does and keep the sway bar connected that would make it more fair

[@Stuka87]

The VW has a disconnecting front sway bar, so its fine that the Jeep used it. But really, the Jeep would have done this whole trail with its lockers off. There was no reason to use them.

[@eivmel]

@@Stuka87 The disconnecting front sway bar (and front locker) was an option this particulare Touareg does not have

[@eppyz]

@@Stuka87 i don't think so. In some areas it would have needed the lockers, wishful thinking. Bottom line on this video is the Jeep has better lines than the VW and that's what made the biggest difference.

[@jarredl990]

???? This video wasn’t trying to make it fair? The title is literally old vs new. No shit they used the front lockers and disc. Sway bar.

[@eppyz]

@@jarredl990 the take away i got was the VW was ahead of its time and a very capable but underrated vehicle.

[@noelebbert9322]

i love the touareg series. good job as usual.

[@markchambers8641]

I was thinking about getting an older VW.

[@GuillermoARP]

Oh boy, I'd love to see a Range Rover VS VW Tourage VS G-Waggon VS Jeep Grand Cherokee VS Land Cruiser (same year)... hahaha, that would be so crazy. One can only dream.

[@coreysmayfield]

Just the fact the the VW kept up with the wrangler, up AND down the hill is impressive. It wasn’t even designed for this type of off-roading, yet you too bashed it the entire video! Your bias towards Jeep reeks terribly.

[@computerbob06]

I loved it when Roman was up against the tree, with his window down and Tommy - all of 2 feet from him, kept talking into the radio!

[@AWDfreak]

11:40 Tommy, you're exactly right. Despite the reduced articulation of an independent suspension compared to a straight-axle suspension, the independent suspension overall will be more comfortable. This matches my experience riding/driving in military vehicles, trucks, SUV's, and crossovers. For folks who no longer or do not have the physical and mental endurance of withstanding the pronounced side-to-side sway of straight-axle suspensions, lifting wheels at rough obstacles is a reasonable sacrifice of articulation assuming the vehicle has BLD-effect of traction control and/or lockers for that comfort of fully-independent suspension.

[@joeuncoolio]

The all time "How did a Volkswagen get up here?" moment. I have been so impressed from the moment you bought the Toureg.

[@typxxilps]

Clearance and dynamic clearance are 2 different pairs of shoes. The first is measured standing still ... the second appears under the dynamic pressure of a stone on a single wheel getting on / off that rock. The mirror's plastic "housing" of the touareg is here 67€ incl. 19% VAT or 78$ deliverabke in 48 hours ... but makes no sense if glue can fix it ... cause otherwise you need a paint job done.

[@geovonnie69]

Just bought my 09 Touareg VR6 FSI today. Hope it's as capable as y'all's is on the trails.

[@billturner6564]

What a beautiful country you have and you filmed it to perfection your videos are masterful Keep it up.

[@thejohnnerparty]

Wow! Very impressive. No sweat for the Rubicon, but hey that Touareg did a darn good job. For what it (Touareg) is - basically a car, it did a great job.

[@phillippauley7950]

I would love to see y’all do a mash up with a 08-12 Trail Rated Jeep Liberty vs the VW and even a Wrangler or Trailhawk anything. I have a 2010 Jeep Liberty Renegade and I haven’t done a whole lot with it and there wasn’t that much love for them.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Spray your paint with a teflon based silicone before offroading and you will get much less pinstriping....just an FYI Roman.

[@TFLcar]

Thanks for the heads-up!

[@andybroer651]

I have a 2005 VW Touareg with locking center and read diff plus a 1999 LR Discovery 1 with locking center diff and EATON True Trac front and rear, so I loved this video... thanks for making it!

[@jeffnreno5080]

The only experience I've had with Jeep was a Pink Jeep tour in Sedona, AZ. Those things can go anywhere and are truly amazing so it is pretty impressive the VW did as well as it did.

[@mikezog1030]

The main issue with the Touareg was the anxiety of the driver. The car looked like it handled it no problem...

[@typxxilps]

Do you get in the US a VW T-ROC ad while watching this too? Touareg was a strong one ... and is as used one here a great car, but deserves solid maintenance to be a good over years or decades.

[@bibasik7]

Nope, I get a Ford ecosport ad on every video. I sometimes get tempurpedic mattress ads as well. Really makes me want to enable adblock.

[@kalebv7373]

I get Toyota Supra ads lol

[@brianmoore4778]

I have 2006 touareg 4.2 lifted,dual k&n intake filtration non air suspension , bilstein performance struts, 275 65 18 cooper discoverer II. luxury 4x4 with Porsche brakes and suspension , audi v8 , Volkswagen owned all 3 companies at the time no comparison. Handling of a sports car, offroad capability of top line 4x4, comfort of a fine luxury vehicle, incredible sound system, dual climate control. Needs armor to complete.

[@matthewgaines10]

Not bad for a vehicle not purpose built for this stuff. The Jeep did as expected.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

Really, you think the touareg is as capable as the jeep? The jeep has a front locker (not the VW), and a disconnecting front sway bar(not the VW). I love the VW, but a Rubicon it is not.

[@nielsdebakker3283]

@@richfarfugnuven6308 Both were an option on the tuareg, only this one does not have them. The only thing it does not have is skid plates.

[@richfarfugnuven6308]

@@nielsdebakker3283 I dont know if you noticed, but people were talking about THIS video and ThIS Touareg

[@danlatu209]

I hate VW and the whole diesel gate thing, but I am envious of that Touareg. It is truly a majestic beast.

[@dslpwr]

Been watching you guys for years and I must say you all truly knocked it out of the park with this one. The videography and editing was fantastic. Keep up the great work fellas!

[@TFLcar]

Thanks for watching and thanks for the kind comments!

[@johnmoser2689]

I'm very impressed with the amount of love and praise for the much mis understood Toureg What a fantastic well designed vehicle they were

[@bmddlton]

I had a 2007 Touareg V10 TDI and as far as performance and how much of a tank it felt like, I was never disappointed. I have a few videos of it on my channel. Only took it off road twice and it felt invincible.

[@eppyz]

I think the VW did very well and is still very impressive... In many spots Tommy just had a better line than his Dad not that the Jeep was all that better. I don't know about you guys but that VW is frickin impressive 👍

[@mdocod]

A 5/10 difficulty rated trail shouldn't be too "butt clinching" .. I know both of those vehicles can handle harder trails. The ruby could do red cone with the diffs unlocked with proper driving. I just ran the T-33 wreck trail (near lyons) last week with some guys from work and think you should take the touregg up there. It has some "real" rock obstacles (6/10 rated) that will require careful lines and probably put some wheels WAY in the air on that thing (fun!). This is on the easier end of the trails I've run but just hard enough to get "serious" (weeds out stock SUV's).

[@TFLcar]

mdocod It’s rated a 5-7 ok Trails off-road and “difficult”’on fun treks. t-33a is a fun one too!

[@lbnewell23]

The jeep was clearly better but for more than 10 times the price it’s not worth the extra money

[@kenj7153]

Agree 110%

[@markgosser9578]

It’s a Jeep thing you wouldn’t understand!

[@raserx63]

Lewis my friend , Base price of V8 Toureg was over 45k in 2005. That’s 59k in 2019 dollars. That’s the comparison. Not a new vehicle vs a 15 year old vehicle.. With your logic , no new car is worth the extra money over a used one , since they all do similar things.

[@philiplush2957]

So if you could import a europian model with the locking front diff, put those tires on it, and made some custom skid plates it would make a pretty good off road veicle.

[@nils895]

Yeah, but they'd have to get a first gen as well, cause new Touaregs are shit, don't even have diff lockers any more

[@jaiveerbajwa928]

The VW would of done it easier if you treated it the same as the wrangler and didn’t worry about the underside a lot.

[@trevorhettinger4625]

Love Red Cone, such a great trail! I love how Roman said he was impressed by the Jeep...Why? That's what it was supposed to do. I am not a VW guy and I was impressed by the large Beetle.

[@oldecrow6975]

Double check your build sheet there guys (Tommy commented that the Rubicon has 410 gears) not sure about the new JL's but in the JK's the 410's were only standard in the Manual transmission The automatics were 373's even in the Rubicon unless you special ordered it with 410's! Nice little bait-n-switch from FCA I only recently figured out... Also I've really been enjoying these Touareg off-road videos!

[@559624]

The fan on my 2019 Cherokee is super loud when off road for an extended period of driving slow. Guess it's a feature.

[@davedynamite1298]

That Touareg would make a great overland build. Throw a rooftop tent, full size spare and armor and lets go!!!

[@adamadams6740]

The T-rag is awesome!!! Front locker and sum skid plates,custom winch bumper??? Would add to the girth but would make that thing almost unstoppable!!! Love the series!Jeeps the way to go for dedicated 4x4 but that T-rag will go 90% of the way in comfort!!

[@swinglow33]

Nice drone footage at the top of the mountain. The Jeep is insanely capable, still blows my mind.

[@jons8381]

I absolutely love these videos! Thanks TFL!

[@Corvin666]

Nice, thanks, guys for finding a place where you can see the car's limits. Really, the thing that starts to hold the VW back compared to the Jeep is the articulation. J is much more sure footed, which allows it to crawl with more control

[@LelandHF]

A more apples to apples comparison would be the Touareg against the current XK2 Grand Cherokee with the Hemi V8 and air suspension.

[@armegeddonschildren]

You mean the wk2? The 4th gen Grand Cherokee? I would say the most apples to apples agaisnt Jeep would be the wk the 3rd gen Grand Cherokee....or to be the exact same model year, that would be the 2004 wj, the last year of the 2nd gen.

[@LelandHF]

@@armegeddonschildren Yes WK2, specifically the post refresh version with the ZF 8 speed

[@mb106429]

​@@LelandHF German gearbox

[@DriveCarToBar]

As long as you're careful, you can keep the VW from eating parts. The part where he was worried about hitting the tree, also shows a huge weak point in independent suspension on larger off-road obstacles. Where the Wrangler came in and zipped right through with its wheels cranked hard to the right, the Touareg could have been in trouble. Having the steering hard over at lots of compression or droop and bashing against rocks is a very good way to mangle CV joints. Isuzu Trooper guys know all about that on the front ends of those SUVs. They're great and you can get lockers and fit big tires without issue, but when you start throwing them with their great articulation, at big rocks, they eat CV joints. Not really a fault of the vehicle, it's just that CV joints aren't really made for that kind of punishment. As long as you don't beat on them too much, they usually hold up.

[@wakeupamerica4610]

I give toureg award for most capable,its coming from a luxo suv multi use by design where the jeep is by design more off road and a family suv by accident (the 4dr)the toureg is a beast.i would like to see the vw with bash plates underneath and sn expierenced rock crawler behind the wheel.

[@Spinnin88]

The Touareg dominated price wise age wise fuel efficiency-wise versatility wise probably reliability wise over the course of maybe three more years. Currently if I'm wrong but it got everywhere that Jeep got correct? I have one question where exactly did it fail next to the Jeep? Yeah I'm a VW guy I'm a VW diesel guy. But I get it you got so much invested in that Jeep so it's hard not to cheer for it and expect to make it the winter right I get it. But in all practicality and reason and money not growing on trees the Touareg dominated hands down! Great video I love to seeing somebody compare the two VW needs giving some proper respect and it looks like some people are going to save a lot of money and make the right choice the first time with your off-road ventures! Good work guys really great video

[@mdocod]

Love that you guys can come down the famous red cone decent WHILE narrating the video. That's very impressive.

[@turtletube]

Now that’s German engineering lol

[@gasolara2002]

I say source the front diff and retrofit it in. That Toureag is more impressive to me than the Jeep.

[@thomasmorgan9354]

I agree. The Jeeps (jk,jl) are a fashion statements now I love the idea of showing up in the VW and matching them and being very comfortable. Fraction the price.

[@neilmurphy845]

@@thomasmorgan9354 ya

[@dzelpwr]

Once you put an early Touareg's transfer case into low, the ESP/traction control programming changes to off-road specific operation. It will brake the wheel that has no traction to transfer power to the wheel that does have traction. It might not be quite as good as an actual locker, but it's close. It's very highly capable as-is. The front locking differential was never an option in the U.S.. But, the parts to retrofit it do exist in Europe.

[@neilmurphy845]

@@dzelpwr would it be worth trying or looking into it

[@dzelpwr]

@@neilmurphy845 could be. Though you'd be surprised at just how good the traction control based setup works.

[@blikkiesblignaut6999]

Hi Guys, great video. You will have to do it again, this time the Rubicon without lockers, just sway bar disconnect. I recon it will still be better than the Touareg. I never used diff lock on my JK rubicon. Eventually sold it because it made off road boring. Got a JKUL Sahara diesel now, love it.

[@RoverRacer913]

Guys, love these videos and glad to be done with all my work travel....Can finally start watching these regularly again🤘 cant wait to hit the trails with you all. Roman said it right, a cheap offroader with the right parts is how you keep up with 40k plus rigs😉 The old explorer is getting retired and a 2003 seqouia will be the new beater, cant wait to see its capability and build it up.

[@crzy4x4]

Awesome video! Thank you again Roman and Tommy. You went above and beyond!

[@reinenruud390]

That Touareg is one capable car!!! Nice video!

[@samjohnson9894]

Great video. Might be doing that trail next weekend. And congrats on your first trail damage - tree rash. My first damage was being hit by 2 different cars in two days. Miraculously, no one was hurt and I was the least for wear both times. Still think you should give more points on the ORI scale for vehicles with lockers. 10 points per is good.

[@JwcubTHS]

Awesome video, guys! We need more like this! I'd like to take my JLUR on this trail; the scenery is spectacular! 😎

[@fabriciovargas2873]

That VW was way ahead of time, an old car vs a new jeep, to be honest I'm very impressed with the VW, it's the best of both worlds, I know for a fact it would behave much better than the jeep does on the high way, and it's just as capable off road, I wonder what the newest VW toureg is like, is it as capable as the old one?

[@greenstoic4029]

Fabricio Vargas Unfortunately for North America the 2nd Gen Touaregs did not come with air suspension or the transfer case, only a full-time AWD system with an “off-road” mode. Still, it is impressive for what it is and is still very much the same comfortable yet capable VW SUV. Also, they are probably the best value for used SUV’s period (especially the TDI’s) in my opinion at least. Hard to beat something with standard AWD, 7700 lb tow capacity, can get 30 mpg on the highway (TDI), and comes with a 100,000 mile power train warranty from the factory.

[@seagrass7125]

Just picked up a 2010 VR6 Touareg, we had a 08 LR3 and this feels much more modern. Both are heavy vehicles but the VW actually feels “light” compared to the LR3. The Rover actually didnt have terrible problems until around 130k even with preventative maintenance. Rolling the dice again with a pretty weird vehicle VW, does scare me but time will tell. The battery under the drivers seat is terrible btw.

[@squishycrab6330]

I look at the video description and see it says "4 years ago" and I think "that's a long time ago" but it was 2020. Times sure fly.

[@schmoab]

Oh this is great. I want to try Red Cone in the Cherokee soon. This is one of the greatest, scariest trails in the world.

[@wodanowitz]

Sorry Tommy, but the VW Touareg never had a front locker. Not in the US, not Rest of World, not in Germany. They had for sure the center Diff Locker and the Rear Axle Locker, plus Low Gear and Airsuspension, with Ride High Control.

[@Jsailor1210]

Absolutely love my Touareg!! Best vehicle I’ve ever owned.

[@BratPit]

Thanks guys for your videos. Your conversations, narration, cars, music, sceneries - are just great. You show not only cars which I love but some nice pieces of US :ok:

[@fgialcgorge7392]

Have someone cut some 3/16 aluminum plate for the sides on the under belly and riv-nut it in. Then a ladder type skid down the middle with some 1-1.5 inch DOM tubing. A 1x4 steel box tube would work great for rock rails and you could even add tube to the upper side of the box tube as a rub rail. Just takes a little measuring and basic fab skills. You could have that thing clad up under there like a HMMWV pretty easily since it's so flat.

[@salsandoval6786]

Have you guys ever considered taking viewers of your channel on excursions? I see your videos in amazement of the beautiful terrain you play in and I think some of your viewers would love to experience it as well.

[@thomasknight3975]

Great father and son team work

[@Quesnel4X4]

Try this test on an actually challenging trail. The vw will be left behind. That trail was just a bumpy gravel road.

[@TFLcar]

Yup, so easy to say sitting at sea level behind a computer in comfy chair. Why don’t you take a drive cone and make a video to show us just how easy it really is. We’re waiting!

[@RyanRKJ]

A bumpy gravel road? You are being silly, but nobody is laughing.

[@HoosierDaddy_]

Roman "I'm gonna hit a tree" Mica finally hits a tree! I still think a cool series would be to buy old suvs every 90 days and showcase their abilities. It could go on the classics or off road Channel. Great job on this video! An off road review that really goes off road! And I think the VW did great!

[@trailrunnah8886]

I don't know how I missed this video, but it's amazing! As always, great work guys. This trail looks epic too, once again it just makes me really want to get out to CO to see y'all with my 4Runner.

[@ukaszrattowski4583]

All my life i was thinking that you decrease tire pressure on sand and on rocky road it should be hard as these rocks. But still Touareg is the winner here. I had one and for sure it’s a good car. Little too expensive to maintain it right but.. good off roader and on highways that 4.2 makes it better than all classic off-roaders

[@GATORADDAM]

Oh yeah. That's what you guys are, and should be all about! It's like a review but with adventure. I'm already awaiting the next one!!

[@davidm3611]

Love This T-Reg Series, Makes me want to get my 09 TDI up in the mountains soon, I just got it ;) You guys rock! Thanks for all these vids! Tommy your awesome, enjoy your presentation and enthusiasm!

[@trrmbath97]

The Jeep and Touareg should maybe do black bear pass and the Alpine trails. Seems like a good fit.

[@SeanDuu]

Love the Touareg but went with a WK Grand Cherokee with QDII and lifted it instead, and enjoyed many Colorado trails with it. Wish I could bring mine for you to do a comparison if I'm not a thousand miles away.

[@thebadbug7026]

Outstanding video fellas! Thanks for showing the off-road chops VW baked into the Touareg with this series!!

[@dzelpwr]

Yeah, ultimately the Wrangler is going to be a bit more capable, but that's the amazing part about the Touareg is that it hangs RIGHT THERE with it and is a far better on-road vehicle to boot. Might have to pick your lines a little more carefully in the VW, use momentum a smidge more too, but still puts in a very, very respectable performance, and when you get back on the highway to go home, it will drive much more comfortably at higher speeds than the Wrangler. For attempting to be a vehicle that is excellent in both realms, VW hit the mark very well in those early Touaregs. And while it may lack a locking front differential, when the transfer case is in low the ESP programming switches to an off road mode as well that brakes the wheel that has no traction to send power to the wheel that does. It may not quite have the mechanical advantage a true locking differential does, but more often than not it gets the job done. Great video, great production value, fantastic scenery and two impressive vehicles. Good stuff.

[@brianwaltman6077]

Great trail for a 4x4 test! If you need a tie breaker though going back up the one way section is a fun time... Of coarse you need friends on both ends to keep it clear safe. Keep up the fun and diverse content!