Touker Accidentally Breaks Fold Smart’s Only Prototype | Dragons’ Den

Determined to “revolutionise” the flat pack furniture industry with 'Foldsmart' - flat pack furniture which can be assembled in under two minutes. Construction workers-turned-entrepreneurs Pelham Vincent and David Hall seek £150,000 for 10%. If you claim to have a patent for your business, you must be able to prove it.
Season 13, Episode 9.
An international sensation, Dragon's Den features entrepreneurs pitching for investment in the Den from our Dragons, five venture capitalists willing to invest their own money in exchange for equity.
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[@apocalypsed8]

Touker: Doesn't get out of bed for 1% but more than willing to breaks yours if the valuation is too high

[@edwardrawn8157]

"Not the big break they were hoping for." Give that man a raise.

[@kanegardner6346]

Touker breaking something, Deborah looking at a patent and Peter scathing an entrepreneur over the valuation… this pitch has it all lol

[@Falzeee]

Don't be racist

[@AstroVaikis]

Jenny being out is missing

[@ooginator12]

@@Falzeee Peter Jones isn't a race

[@Falzeee]

@@ooginator12 he is, there is proof of it on his vacations to SEA countries and the filth he said to the brown people

[@b-dogs1038]

Yes , just missing Tej on the drums or playing ‘Stairway to heaven’ on some guys guitar

[@livin4thelamb499]

I was expecting him to just sit down on the bed, not catapult himself onto it! Oh my gosh 🤣

[@personalityhighlights]

He looked really ridiculous humping on the bed like that 🤣

[@Only1SapphireDiamond]

Im highly amused 😩😂😂😂 it’s the “sorry” then the way he sits down with when he returns to his seat 🤦🏽‍♀️😂😂😂that gets me every time…

[@janeclarkson8471]

He bloody knew what he was doing. He’s a menace sometimes. Peter definitely gets a depraved pleasure in being super scathing to and humiliating some entrepreneurs that come on. His attitude can be appalling. These 2 men I don’t think for a moment intended to come in and deliberately insult the Dragon’s intelligence. They definitely didn’t understand how to evaluate. Peter must sense that and Touker would know that was a fake bed! They see someone not business savvy and like to pillars them! I hope they succeed with their extremely good invention! Flat pack is a nightmare product!

[@codeXenigma]

@@janeclarkson8471 You would think if you are going onto Dragon's Den then at least watch a few episodes to get an idea of what kinds of questions they ask and if they will test the products. No one is just going to give you £150,000 without asking some questions. Why would they bring in a fake bed, this is them demonstrating their product. If anything most of the Dragons did cut them some slack because they understand inventors don't always understand business. Trouble is this is about business, so if you are an inventor that lacks business savvy then hire a business manager or at least do some research into how to value your business. Everyone thinks their business idea will make them a millionaire but the reality is lots of businesses fold without making any profit. They wasted an opportunity here by not doing enough research and being greedy.

[@janeclarkson8471]

@@codeXenigma Actually I absolutely agree! You do see bizarre situations and you wonder if they’ve ever watched. Also I would presume they’re checks, some guidance and info before proceeding! They said it was a fake bed, I’m sure. Like displayed in some stores when they’ve no stock for the next 6 weeks!

[@pikachuzero3335]

"Keep on dreaming" says Toucker after he broke their only bed.

[@b-dogs1038]

I’ve said it before: ‘You can’t take Touker anywhere’

[@Jester-Riddle]

No problem for qualified carpenters to repair ...

[@human1414]

Toocher*

[@calvinthedestroyer]

Touker, jumping on the bed like he's about to get some action..

[@christschool]

Touker did that on purpose. He knew they were made out of particle board and would easily break.

[@Jester-Riddle]

They did try to explain that even the prototype had not been fully constructed with the supports, so they weren't expecting a physical test of the Bed, which was there for cosmetics.

[@darcos7535]

@@Jester-Riddle furniture did look flimsy though. Even the regular idea wardrobes are not that strong.

[@ZazooEel57]

@@darcos7535 I would love to know how much weight the rail in the wardrobe can hold. I have a clothes rack that can hold 18kg and with 5-10 big coats, you can already see the strain on it.

[@umungus518]

@@Jester-Riddle not a good idea when you're trying to sell the products.

[@Jester-Riddle]

@@umungus518 Yes. I agree. It was a bit amateur to present with an incomplete product.

[@swastiksharma3677]

I feel really bad for the two of them. These guys seem hardworking individuals who built something unique and who wanted to improve their lives with that. Even if they did not get the investment, I am sure they are doing pretty well now.

[@teddym2808]

They are still around which is encouraging. Hope they are making money.

[@mike8984ify]

It's not unique though... splitting the short sides of a rectangle in half and putting hinges on them is not novel. You can get foldable milk crates all the way up to furniture that uses this idea. If you ask "how do you fold a rectangle frame keeping everything one piece" this is the more basic and obvious answer you'd come up with... Good for them to trying to build a brand around it, but the idea is old and not patentable.

[@teddym2808]

@ilikebacon sad

[@zeeo3147]

@ilikebacon that’s peak

[@Aaa-wf6cg]

They just died rip

[@togepi5136]

2:15 Is that a little pic of the narrator on the bedside table? 🤣

[@jmcb0089]

Evan Davis? Yes, yes it is.

[@sexyhomeowner9345]

Yes, I was howling.

[@lovetownsend]

Unfortunately too many entrepreneurs base their valuations on their debt....

[@liddybug8311]

Or they look at the value of a similar but very successful very well established brand and base it on that. Like the guys making cider in their garage that gave themselves a ridiculous value based on Bacardi 🤣🤣🤣 there was another one comparing her brand to Samsung. Delusional lol

[@4minutesavedme]

Easily one of the best products I've seen in the Den, sucks that it didn't work out for 'em :(

[@codeXenigma]

Even if they don't get investment they get advertising. They are doing pretty well for themselves so all good

[@stavencapp]

thats a GENIUS idea. apart from the pain in the ass it is to originally build flat pack furniture, but when you have to move house or even want to just move it to a another room, you can simply fold it back up and move it with ease.

[@SoSo-li6dn]

this is the feature of ikea furniture, most people lose the alan keys tho.

[@astronemir]

@@SoSo-li6dn have your own Allen key set. A crappy one is 10€ for all sizes combined

[@dalmacietis]

Isn't it really flimsy, though? I've seen regular furniture buckle in at places after a decade of bearing weight. I'm afraid this one could break in a couple years before you even decide to move it :D

[@-EchoesIntoEternity-]

@@SoSo-li6dn why do ppl keep losing poor Alan's keys? you can get a cheap full set of allen keys, they arent like some mystical unique key specific to the one item you bought

[@Jester-Riddle]

Furniture needs to be robust. This is not. This is why decent Flatpack furniture needs to be properly assembled, as normal furniture would have all sorts of proper strength joints, such as Dovetail, etc ... Something easy to disassemble will disassemble itself in normal use ...

[@JamesFodor]

Nice idea, but these guys were woefully underprepared for the den. I'd they had done their research they could have gotten a much better reception.

[@flare90]

@K B they’ve said it many a time it’s a bit of both. They aren’t buying the product, they are investing in the product. The dragons aren’t going to sit after a pitch and research the market, patent etc before giving them money. It’s their task to provide that to get an investment.

[@ameliashostak4764]

OMG, when Touker did that little lift and kick at 3:16 I almost choked on my oatmeal!!! I probably watched it at least 10 times, totally made my day, lol!

[@PlayMoreGolf-RipOff]

This would have been the perfect moment for Touker to crack his "I don't get out of bed" line!

[@andrewdemetrioumusic7586]

Finallllly Deborah actually acknowledges that they aren't business people but inventors, the dragons are always wankers about it

[@Boshek2019]

Feeling gutted for them They seem like good people

[@georgehand]

This isn’t the first time that Touker has broken a prototype that the entrepreneur has brought with them!!!

[@PlayMoreGolf-RipOff]

Touker does it on purpose to engineer a reason for a greedy offer!

[@Nocturnalux]

He does it so often that it's his thing, at this point.

[@PlayMoreGolf-RipOff]

@@Nocturnalux i also think ‘getting triggered’ by STEPHEN has become his thing this series!

[@PlayMoreGolf-RipOff]

@nocturnalux maybe Touker is secretly pitching himself to the BBC for a solo series… “Triggering Touker” where he discusses all the things in the modern world that “trigger him”

[@janeclarkson8471]

I don’t think he apologised either? Correct me if I’m wrong! He’s so rude sometimes! I wonder what his reaction would be if you went in his baby clothing area, picked up a frock and yanked at the product saying “I’m testing the strength and quality of the seams.”

[@canag0d]

I love when they say they aren’t nervous and then proceed to stumble through their pitch.

[@jameskelly3502]

As of January 2022 the "entire" furniture industry in the UK is about £3.3 billion. The flat pack industry for the entire EU is €14 Billion. So love the product, but math is way off.

[@logicalcommentor692]

Nick jenkins responses are always very deep thoughted and insightful

[@flare90]

His was perfect. A great example of explaining why their pitch didn’t work. The product may be great but it was the wrong pitch attached.

[@kasimsharif7960]

No need for him to jump on the bed like that. Fool

[@riat360]

This is an incredibly good idea for landlords!!!! They would be in for the money 💰 with them!!

[@hawsrulebegin7768]

Really want these guys to do well out of a great idea. Hope the big boys don’t steal the idea.

[@boxingmonthly]

Word has it Jenny tried the bed with Toukatime and she wasn't getting out in a hurry

[@matthewbell4273]

For our education I would have liked Deborah better to have articulated why she thought the patent application would fail.

[@SuperJohnkimani]

Good insight

[@youngster30uk]

She did, " you wont get a patent on 2 pieces of wood of equal size that fold" its wood with a hinge, they didnt invent the hinge, and they definitely didnt invent wood, so its not patentable. It basically a wooden version of a cardboard box. It IS a really clever idea though. Kudos to them. But Peter had it right, their evaluation was crazy, if they came in with a valuation that was in the tens of thousands, the Dragons could have made an offer and potentially done something with it regardless of the patent ability

[@matthewbell4273]

@@youngster30uk Interesting, fair play, thanks for the answer.

[@khushishah1703]

“I’m sorry” 😅 that got me!

[@zachi2fox246]

how many times has Touker jumpped on something and broke it

[@alecbuxton7634]

The thing with traditional flat pack furniture is that it takes 2 people to assembly most of the items plus a reasonable knowledge of how to read assembly instructions plus a basic knowledge of how to use tools so folding self assembly

[@TripleNikel555]

Touker cracks me up I swear everything he touches he breaks

[@henryfitzgerald5857]

Watch the guy on the right from 6:30. Peter asks "If I gave you £1,500,000 to walk away from this idea today, would you?" The guy on the right says "No," but before doing so, he nods.

[@human1414]

What does that mean? His body language gives something away I'm guessing?

[@Nocturnalux]

@@human1414 It doesn't mean anything. Keep in mind that these people are under severe stress. There doesn't need to be any deep meaning here, I know a lot of people who just nod along but aren't actually agreeing.

[@human1414]

@@Nocturnalux that's a fair point. Thanks for explaining

[@daveymorgan909]

Now IKEA will steal their idea because IKEA make most of those Billions

[@emmyelijah7395]

IKEA would have to be careful what they wish for.

[@janeclarkson8471]

IKEA used to be pretty good stuff. A lot of it has changed now and is crap!!! Btw it’s quite pricey too; for crap!

[@mr.g702]

@@janeclarkson8471, most have not realised it yet. Hence the comments

[@Jadinandrews]

When Touker broke the bed I nearly spat out my cornflakes

[@tanayy3908]

This is such a great idea for landlords and students, I don’t get how the dragons didn’t make a deal!

[@KittenCritters]

They are asking for a ludacris investment, come in completely unprepared and it's also near impossible for them to get a patent for it

[@flare90]

It’s money. At the end of the day dragons don’t care how great an idea is. It needs to be profitable idea so they make at least their investment back. And in this case it wasn’t just money they needed, but lots of expertise.

[@maverickstclare3756]

I don't know a rental property which needs such furniture flexibility, and how much of a market do you think furniture aimed solely at rental landlords who need quickly removable furniture is?

[@hsjasmap]

there is great products, and there is great business. the dragons are investors, at the end of the day they only care about the balance sheets and profit. alot of these pitches have great ideas and I can see people buying them, but I also dont see growth in their company hence why the dragons don't invest because they invest in the business not the products. and alot of these pitches fall through because they overvalue their business

[@acshepard6779]

@@KittenCritters ludicrous

[@arbiteria]

Lol the moment Touker got up to have a look I knew he'd break something! Oh how I love this show!

[@maverickstclare3756]

plus it's in the title

[@DigitalNomadInvestor]

These guys will learn the hard way that patent attorneys aren't in the business of telling you that you can't patent something. They will try to patent anything as long as it ropes you in to pay them. It's also not their job to consult you on how marketable that patent could be if you get it. So, when the guy put it all on the patent attorneys, that is a bad to say they know these things.

[@GussyToYou]

@K B "Any carpenter in the world can sell flat pack furniture" This... This is why a patent is necessary.

[@Faradeth1111]

@K B The company is dead theyve been losing money every year until the episode aired where they had one good year where their net worth was -200k only to go back to -280k the following year.

[@Mike_5]

'Our Solicitor will be calling and writing to you Touker' was the part edited out of this clip

[@KJ_2020]

It irks me when they go on about the valuation as though it's set in stone and as if they don't regularly make offers at 30-40% of the proposed valuation.

[@Popaholic]

They broke their bed and didn't invest. I hope the payed for a new prototype to be made

[@matthewbell4273]

If only the rules of Dragons’ Den allowed the Dragons to disagree with the entrepreneurs’ valuation by making an offer that differently values the company. Oh no wait, they do.

[@SuperJohnkimani]

It was hard for them because, they didn’t have any sales, high valuation, hadn’t tested the market, it was just an idea and few boards.Am thinking their main interest was just to advertise.

[@deschim9034]

well yes, but actually no. The dragons have to give the requested amount of money at minumum, meaning they can only negotiate the shares. In this case they would have had to request 50+% of the shares. And a dragon is absolutely not interested in being the majority shareholder.

[@nawaal4452]

Shark Tank allows that, Dragon's Den doesn't, It's all the money or nothing

[@poppinc8145]

No they don't. The dragons can restructure the deal however they want but it must meet the minimum asking price of what the entrepreneur wanted.

[@poppinc8145]

@@nawaal4452 Shark Tank US doesn't allow that either. They have to meet the minimum asking price that the pitch asks for. That's the format of the show.

[@gfy-sandiego6774]

Gutted to hear you can't get a patent on two pieces of wood folding flat.

[@Andy-ev8sf]

Great product, easy to replicate.

[@whyisblue923taken]

Whoever wrote the narration was feeling a bit snippy that day. lol Debra was very good here. She told them something they needed to hear and showed she cared. These guys have a good product, but that's as far as it goes.

[@NusoWorld]

Touker always breaking the contestants prototypes 😂

[@liddybug8311]

He could obviously tell immediately that it was flimsy and crap quality so was eager to prove it 🤣🤣

[@toniroberts8117]

I watch both this show and shark tank. It cracks me up how shy and nervous British people are vs Americans when pitching a product lol. It’s cute.

[@Manic3DF]

this furniture would be agreat idea for those in student housing, where it isn't furnished.

[@nawaal4452]

What does Peter Jones think about the valuations on companies such as Tesla and GME? I'd love to know

[@Black.Sabbath]

Peter = ENTJ Deborah - ESTJ Touker = ESTP

[@havva_p]

KZbin comments: where 12 year olds and older guys who still think and talk like they are 12 can fish for likes and attention by spamming with repetitive, idiotic, obnoxious jokes and memes, because they are creatively bankrupt and have nothing intelligent or meaningful to say.

[@TheZerok666]

I think the idea of an inside joke is to be repetitive to a degree. I also think that those "Jenny is out", etc. jokes are meant to be inside jokes for all of us watching these videos during lunch. Based on that, you are just annoyed by people having fun. And for that reason, I'm out.

[@WobblesandBean]

You're not wrong.

[@RockyDave]

Whereas your comments...

[@free_gold4467]

Wow! Super duper comment what what what!

[@taranullius9221]

Says the guy that copy and pastes this on Dragon's Den videos routinely.

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

They will never be competitive because it's more complex to build. Which makes it more expensive. So in the end ikea etc. Can simply lower prices till they are gone.

[@Cypher791]

This is perfect for when you need to furnish a room but you only have 6 minutes and no screwdriver…. 😬⏰

[@AFake_Human]

Am I the only person that has never had a problem assembling a flat pack furniture?

[@jamesf8864]

You must be some kind of fake human to make a statement like that.

[@paultinwell5557]

Nope… all it takes is looking at the instructions. If you don’t… well, the problem is obvious.

[@dimitar4y]

@@paultinwell5557 9/10 the instructions are outdated, or the packages are mislabeled, or the holes are drilled in slightly wrong places, or the assembly requires excessive force due to too tight tolerances, or it requires weird assembly steps that requires a 2nd person to hold some parts. And when you try to take pieces out, the wood crumbles. You're fake n ghay.

[@ahmedzakikhan7639]

I hate it and most of my assembles are bad in quality.

[@pikachuzero3335]

No, it's completely straightforward 99% of the time. If it wasn't, IKEA wouldn't currently be worth billions...

[@Fiskie666]

Such a good idea .. and execution .. and whyy don't they have a patent?

[@vjloves3107]

Ok it seemed like he did that on purpose... lol who jumps in bed like that.

[@preslavjankov1532]

hahah woww what sound he make when he jumps on th ebed and holarious how skared the ladies

[@ownitg4f588]

The awkward silence lol. Who's going to continue. You or me. 😂

[@stephenord3403]

Debs knows her stuff

[@sarahplaysgames4346]

Came here purely to say Peter jones was completely incorrect and £24b is spent yearly on flat pack furniture in 2017 🤦🏻‍♀️

[@perysima]

Touker has broken a few other items in the past. I like his youthful energy.

[@jamesf8864]

I'm feeling youthful today. Might throw a wheelbarrow through a greenhouse later.

[@perysima]

@@jamesf8864 If you felt young today, you would not have the patience to answer me. I think you are feeling envious.

[@Only1SapphireDiamond]

@Help Line he’s absolutely legendary 😩😂😂 he definitely brings a much needed youthful energy to the show.. they should create a video of all the items Touker has broken

[@Jester-Riddle]

The reason why decent Flat Pack furniture takes time to assemble is in order to make it solid. shortcuts and easy disassembly just means that these units will not be very robust. Furthermore, much of the 'technology' they are using is already in common use, including the pop-in door hinges, foldable timber joints, etc. There is nothing new of any real value here and Landlords will hate the flimsy furniture, as Tenant furniture needs to be much more robust than domestic furniture generally !

[@peterherrington3300]

Flat pack furniture is by nature cheap & shortlived. It could be argued its that way intentionally to keep customers returning & easy money for landlord replacement when it inevitably breaks again

[@shafserious2805]

Touka got over excited lol

[@GamingMindsGalaxy]

i can see moving and packing stuff being a problem with those folds. the durability is questionable.

[@MrAcoustic09]

These two guys have put their heart and souls into this buisness and Peter Jones with his snide comment if I give you 1.5 million to walk away from this right now is a joke and then the other smarmy remarks really good idea hate when they do this and belittle people

[@shamteddy659]

I agree

[@youtakemybreathaway8862]

how do you know?

[@CyberBeep_kenshi]

I rather build it. Way more sturdy unless you buy the cheapest crap you can find. I would have certainly taken the 1.5 million lol

[@mxttyuyt2374]

I actually think this is a really good idea

[@Yamezzzz]

Want to buy the "idea" for £1.5 million?

[@alfiebasford144]

5:45 didnt realise friendly fire was one wallahi

[@JamieTransNyc]

These guys should have gone directly to Ikea

[@leonleon2276]

I’m Germany they have flat pack houses by the way

[@redwan123456]

If the TV Shopping lady (can't remember her name... Sara Davis i think or something) was on they probably wouldve got an investment because it is something that can demonstrated in TV and would sell

[@FranheskaRoxxaneCole]

can we have a how to make a company app and easy invention patents works w paypal n id

[@pippipster6767]

Hello My name is Pellumvincen. 🤣

[@MrAcoustic09]

Unfortunately they are of this day -£267.841.00 in debt 😨

[@andymartinez767]

Flat packs are a real pain, hate them. This looks pretty neat idea

[@chrisvillan88]

Sarah's reaction to Touker breaking the bed is priceless

[@tosspot1305]

Yer you can hear her say f***

[@aaroncoveney7471]

it actually is 24 billion per annum

[@neel282]

Can someone explain why they won't be able to get a patent because of wood of equal lengths?

[@thetruth1822]

It's a vague concept I think, it'll be difficult to say that someone would be copying your idea on the basis of how wood is cut and measured, that's my understanding at least

[@calvinthedestroyer]

It's not unique enough. or they would have to get a separate patent for each item. The whole "folding thing" just doesn't sound like enough to protect them.

[@BuggingonBeeroids]

That valuation is bizarre....how did they get that figure of £500 per person? Then again, it sure is a convenient figure for telling yourself you'll be a multi millionaire.

[@BostonPower]

"ACCIDENTALLY"? .......

[@SeaGamer4life]

Not the first time Touker’s broken someone’s product. Remember when he sat in a baby rocker and it snapped in half🤣🤣

[@darkhaz3911]

Haha yep that was shocking but hilarious 🤣

[@AspieADog]

My first thought too! What on earth was he thinking doing that...? 😄

[@jphenry3404]

@@AspieADog I mean, gotta stress test it properly, don't want your bed to collapse the first time you, let's say, put it to use

[@AspieADog]

@@jphenry3404 I wonder if he learned that from Theo the Fetus. 🤔

[@msundhir]

@@AspieADog 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@HappyBloke81]

@3:54

I expect them to speak like IKEA :D

[@sherry356]

Should have pitched this to IKEA.

[@matthewbell4273]

Jenny’s 2 strapping lads pitching for investment

[@VillawoodRealty]

I really wanted them to get an investment

[@bhusk9]

Touker time

[@sommeriqbal6664]

Touch don't get out of a broken bed for 2%

[@Pirate_Booty]

Meanwhile dude is still just collecting seaweed

[@jobo1467]

He's right it is 24 billion

[@bobweeny]

I mean.. couldnt peter just ask for 50% 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@Moist_Plinth]

“Accidentally” broke the bed hmm

[@HESHRocketWarhead]

I thought Theo was the destructive dragon.

[@hoobsgroove]

I thinking bit of tweaking on that they could get patent on it

[@jamesflames6987]

Too simple.

[@hoobsgroove]

@@jamesflames6987 no nothing simple alright mate you can't see it

[@halfsourlizard9319]

Always a good day in the Den when Touker destroys something.

[@pummer]

TOUKER CANNONBALLLLLLLLLLLLLL

[@jono3079]

Not many KZbin comments make me laugh out loud, but this did big time for some reason! 🤣

[@tmfromdenmark9158]

Love Touker😅

[@blastoise77]

Tbf that's a bloody brilliant idea

[@teknix314]

I thought this

[@needaman66]

The 24 billion pounds was a real statistic

[@OrphansCorpse]

More tight landlords.

[@francocinelli7369]

IDEA..........