Glad to see you here and welcome to another RV life focused video. Many of you have asked and after almost six months of towing and a year of ownership, Jason is ready to share some of his thoughts on towing a fifth wheel with a gas engine. We'd love to hear your thoughts on the topic covered. Please remember to keep comments kind and on point - no need for truck brand wars. lol. Comments are moderated by both Jason and Abby. If you find value in this video, we hope you'll take a moment to like, subscribe and share. Thanks! - Jason and Abby
@Back_door_bandit_982 жыл бұрын
I’m enjoying these new gas engines in the heavy duty trucks I just got a 2020 Silverado 3500 dually with the 6.6 gasser currently have 42k miles regularly pulling a 18k pound gooseneck truck handles it well I wish it had the 4:10 gears like my old 2500 but besides that it’s a nice truck and maintenance free compared to a diesel.
@opossom19682 жыл бұрын
The 7.3 is designed to be boosted. You can gain efficiency and torque. A turbo is perfect for towing and turbos love displacement. The 7.3 will be even better boosted with 1 or 2 turbos. Savings in fuel alone will pay for the cost. I would guess a clean install professionally done to be under 10k, depending on one or twin turbo. 7k with just one.
@opossom19682 жыл бұрын
@Jesus has given you all. Repent or die. does Jesus want a boosted 7.3 as well. I know a good builder for him. It would be awesome racing Jesus, long as he did not cheat and bless the engine, we all would have good time. Dude Jesus changed the water to wine! It would be awesome if Jesus turned the water to E85. Alcohol for all. AMEN.
@scottw21572 жыл бұрын
Great review. I have a 1999 7.3 diesel. Thinking, once fuel prices drop maybe upgrading to the new tremor with the 7.3. Spot on with the torque #'s my 1999 is rated at 500lbft.
@nhlcfl77332 жыл бұрын
@@Back_door_bandit_98 Appreciate your comment. I love my 6.6L gas engine as well in my 2500HD LT Chevy.
@MrNismopro2 жыл бұрын
This guy definitely has a great way of delivering all the information needed in a short video. This was the best description of how the truck tows a 15k lbs. load by far.
@RVMiles2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback, Rick!
@landahoy52172 жыл бұрын
Yes sir! If you got bored listening then you need to get your head examined.
@Excellencengrace2 жыл бұрын
I need to get my head examined most likely anyways. I think most people need to carry around an impact and consistently keep up on torquing loose screws on everyone’s head that they come in contact with as well as their own. Proverbs 27:17 brethren sharpen brethren
@HanginInSF2 жыл бұрын
Yes you should keep doing this you are good at it!
@TheAnonymous1one2 жыл бұрын
I agree great delivery. Wish I could do the same lol.
@djcarkhuff2 жыл бұрын
I stumbled on this video by accident and all I can say is what a refreshing, concise, and honest review of the towing capability of the 7.3. Far too many videos prattle on or are just too click-baity. Great work!
@bobnelson28282 жыл бұрын
7.3 with 4.30's here. Just completed a 5,000 mile towing trip pulling an 11.5K fifth wheel. In wind across the plains states and through the mountains; including an 11,000 foot pass. The 7.3 handling everything we threw at it. And the trip average was 9.1 MPG!
@Rick_With_No_Filter Жыл бұрын
Curious, at what highway speed did you get that mpg? My 6.2L gasser with 3.73 gears can only get 9.2 mpg pulling 9k bumper pull camper at 60mph Drops to 7mpg at 70mph. Wind drag kills mileage.
@bobnelson2828 Жыл бұрын
@@Rick_With_No_Filter 65 mph unless posted for less.
@iwanaGoFast20105 ай бұрын
If it ain’t the power stroke you got nothing bro. 7.3 is crap
@Icutmetal5 ай бұрын
@@iwanaGoFast2010Yet here you were.
@gazjaz201027 күн бұрын
@@iwanaGoFast2010 how would you know? sit down
@SuperSnakePlissken2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I can tell you as a fleet manager we are shifting away from diesel to the 7.3 L V8 gas because of the long-term repair costs. This engine is so efficient and powerful for what it is that it makes having a diesel truck under 20,000 pounds of towing mute. For anything above that of course you’re gonna have to have a duely diesel but most things, you tow are between 10,000 pounds and 18,000 pounds. Highly recommend this motor we have 36 of them now and they have been incredibly reliable.
@RVMiles2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@sabertoothduck Жыл бұрын
No rocket arm delaminating issue at 40k?
@SuperSnakePlissken Жыл бұрын
@@sabertoothduck Not a one. Tell me about this issue if you don't mind? I want to do some research in anticipation of problems. We have 36 trucks with six F-350's more on order.
@MikeS77577 Жыл бұрын
There are videos of the Cam shaft and hydraulic lifters delaminating and pitted on the 7.3 gas, not 7.3 diesel.....
@SuperSnakePlissken Жыл бұрын
@@MikeS77577 Appreciate the warning and I have sense seen a few videos on it. Gratefully, we have not had one issue with our 7.3's so far. I have put out a bulletin though on it and we are going to be watching for it. Thanks. By the way, we have nine 7.3's now with over 200,000 miles and no issues. We have 17 of them with over 150,000 miles with no issues, and the rest are under that mileage. We will be keeping each truck until 300,000 miles and then selling it. We will see what happens.
@alancece2 жыл бұрын
I recently got a 2022 F350 dually with the 7.3L and the 4.30 gears and am towing a 41’ Grand Design Solitude with a 16,800lb GVWR (haven’t been to the scales yet). It was definitely uncomfortable at first hitting those high RPM’s, but after more research and understanding that’s where the power curve is, it doesn’t disappoint. It has plenty of power and tows amazingly well!
@robertsabella72982 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about the same truck you have. I'm glad I stumbled onto your review of your truck because that's the same configuration I was going to order. Its a 23 but that doesn't matter I would appreciate any additional information you may have on the truck. Ty
@alancece2 жыл бұрын
@@robertsabella7298 sure! I’ve now put over 9,000 towing miles in the first year. I’ve driven it from Georgia to the Grand Canyon and back and multiple trips through the Appalachian mountains as well as to Myrtle Beach and Florida multiple times. Gas mileage isn’t amazing… I’m getting on average 6-7mpg depending on headwinds and speed traveled. I try to stay between 65-70mph. A few trips I did 70-75 and I was definitely in the lower 6’s for gas mileage. It’s obviously challenging pulling a 41’ into a regular gas station, but with a 48 gallon tank we find we can drive up to 4 hours between stops, which is about all the kids and myself can take before needing a break. My wife always uses aerial view on google maps to find a big enough gas station to pull into and it’s usually not a problem unless they are very busy, then you have to be extremely patient. As for power, there’s only been one time that I pushed the pedal all the way down and realized, oops, that’s all she’s got, but it wasn’t really bad thing and she was able to keep accelerating. I was just trying to keep up with a friend towing a 18’ travel trailer with a bigger truck, that just wasn’t happening! I’ve towed up and down 6-8% mountain grades and it does fine. Again, those RPM’s get pretty high, but that’s where this engine performs, so you just get used to it. Let me know if you have any specific questions.
@donclark567710 ай бұрын
Would you tow a19,000lb camper with your dually and the 7.3?
@alancece10 ай бұрын
@@donclark5677 it depends on where and how often you are towing. 19K lbs is getting close to the max towing capacity of the truck and really limiting payload overall. If it’s mostly flat towing and not often I’m sure it would be ok, but if you are towing through mountains and often you might want to upgrade.
@donclark567710 ай бұрын
So, I guess diesel is my only option.
@wannastayfree8115 Жыл бұрын
We purchased a’23 Ford 7.3 single axle. Pull a 40’ 5th wheel that weighs in at 14k. Truck pulls like a dream over my old Ford V10 AND I actually get to pass-by a few gas stations that the V10 would have forced us to stop. So far so good.
@occasionalrv2 жыл бұрын
We have a 2021 F250 with the 7.3 and ten speed transmission and love it. We don’t tow full time but when we do we have no issues. We’re always well under weight and towing maximums. The engine is an absolute beast.
@glennlacewell57662 жыл бұрын
40 plus years ago we pulled trailers and boats nearly as big and as heavy as today with Ford and Chevy and Dodge Trucks with gas engine's , V-8's that displaced 350 , 360 , 400 cubes ( no turbo's or supercharges or fuel injection ) . We may not have gone up all the hills as fast and we went down hills in lower gears and changed brake pads more often but the Trucks did the jobs and did them well. I now drive a 6.7 ford diesel with more power than I need . I probable would have saved the extra 10000 bucks and gone gas if the 7.3 had been a option when I bought mine . A 7.3 ford or 6.6 chevy or even a ram heavy duty truck with a gas engine is light years ahead of anything we had in bygone days . I'm not sure I will ever save enough on fuel to get the extra 10000 for diesel back.
@herb78772 жыл бұрын
I hear you loud & clear. I bought a 1972 f250 new. Had a 360” which was a boat anchor. Not sure it had even 200hp and under not much more torque. Pulled boat and a full slide in camper. Numerous rigs between but My new f350, 7.3 l is a gigantic improvement.
@joshuaphillips18672 жыл бұрын
Exactly. Nowadays its just a pissing contest, has nothing to do with the trucks themselves...
@brianpatrick87872 жыл бұрын
We towed this weights with the old 400 and 460 no problem. But we did with the 4 and 5 speed Manuals . 410 and 455 axles matched much shorter tires than put on trucks today. The gutless days started when mfg put tall tires and cut out the higher ratio axles on the gas engines. Why do this SALEs of diesel engines. From the get go they were still putting 235_85_16 on the duelly diesel with 410 or 455 axles for years after the gas truck had taller 17 and 18 inch wheels with 355 and 375 axles with maybe a 410 if you ordered.
@boduke94282 жыл бұрын
My dad delivered mobile homes from the factories to lots for years using an International tote truck with a gas engine, 5 speed trans and 2 speed rear. It'd pull 14x70 homes without issue. I've still got parts and pieces of trucks scattered around the farm.
@adamshaw82142 жыл бұрын
Diesel is 50% more expensive per gallon than gas so your not saving shit on fuel.
@brianroth78522 жыл бұрын
Jason,. Currently have a Dodge gasser and pull a Layton 5th wheel. Total combined weight truck and trailer is just a hair under 18,000. Getting ready to retire. We have picked out our new coach. A Grand Design Momentum 398 M-R. Empty weight is 16,000lbs loaded we are at 21,000lbs. So we looked a 450 range of pick up trucks. Price tag over $90,000. We live on a beer pocket book but would love champagne once in a while. After much dilibration we went a complete different direction. We bought a HDT (2013 VOLVO 780) It has 500k for milage. Automatic 12 speed transmission. It develops over 1600lbs of torque for towing. Double bunk. Lower bunk makes in to a dinette or bunk. Has a fridge, and microwave plus coffee maker in the cab. Plus a 26" tv for the wife and grandbabies. I have had all six of our grandkids in the cab and the wife can still get up and move around or lay down. And feed lunch with out stopping. Total cost for the truck was $24,000. We put a deck on it $3000. To haul our Smart Car and the 5th wheel package $4200. So we are totally invested $31,000. As for fuel milage we get 9.8gpm and I have 300 gallons of fuel. Buy the way we don't even feel the trailer behind us going up hill or down. Recommend some other people investigate our setup. Safe travels and roads. Brian and Cindy "xtreambydesign with passion"
@fakepixilord2 жыл бұрын
Guy from germany here. Wow these mileage numbers are impressive. Here in germany we call a car is efficient when it gets 40MPG, we're complaining when it gets under 30MPG. It is a whole other world
@peterbyrne46058 ай бұрын
Kmh is way different from mph just to let you know
@southerncross36382 жыл бұрын
We have a 2001 Ford Excursion with a 6.8 V10, we've been towing 6 Horses in a trailer for 12 years , no problem, 17 miles per gallon, We live in Colorado.
@kahuna12472 жыл бұрын
Well what ya know... a responsible RV owner in the video. This was refreshing to watch!
@terrysoule84412 жыл бұрын
I have the same truck, with Tremor package albeit a Platinum trim. I have a 12k fifth wheel and my experience mirrors yours. What I did concerning the gas problem was to install a 42 gal transfer tank in the bed. Not only does it double the range, but provides a lot more flexibility in choosing gas stations and when to refill. When I have to make a potty stop for the smaller bladders in the family, I take the opportunity to refill the main tank and we're off. Also a 60 gal replacement tank is being made and should be available fairly soon.
@hunterlogan29132 жыл бұрын
great additional info!
@davidclemens15782 жыл бұрын
@@BlackLung87 yes that is the rewards of working for it.
@Youtubeuser1aa2 жыл бұрын
How much you pay for that?
@terrysoule84412 жыл бұрын
@@KZbinuser1aa if you are asking about the transfer tank, about $880 for the whole setup including the pump, filter and nozzle.
@Youtubeuser1aa2 жыл бұрын
@@terrysoule8441 more like the truck
@JohnnyC100719592 жыл бұрын
I am impressed with Ford's gasoline engine. I towed with gasoline many years ago and swore it off forever. Going up western state passes my Chevy 3500 sounded like it would explode before we go to the top and it would not hold speed towing about 16000 pounds. Money is important for diesel, but I will say that (from experience) Ford's diesel 6.7L Power Stroke is a monster. My F450 dually has towed just over 32,000 pounds (construction equipment) from Los Angeles to south Denver, CO, - across two major passes (over 10,000 feet) w/o breaking a sweat. You got a solution that worked for you and saved a ton of money (upfront) - a nice job. Your video is well done and presents information that is factual and concise - really nice.
@Misterfairweather2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear the review, I've been waiting to hear from folks putting miles on them to see how the experience is. I don't tow far enough to justify the added expense and upkeep of the diesel but I do need the payload of the larger trucks. I'm glad to hear this 7.3 is working well to fill that gap.
@michelelarson39442 жыл бұрын
We installed an aftermarket Titan 60 gallon fuel tank. It fits in exact same spot at original tank. Only difference is it sets 2-1/2” lower than original. Best mod we made. Never have to stop for fuel when traveling. Get to our destination drop off 5th wheel. Then go fuel up at station with best Pricing and no hassle or worries of getting in/out.
@rh-et2vv2 жыл бұрын
Titan makes a SuperDuty tank for gasoline?
@intensepisgahbiker2 жыл бұрын
@@rh-et2vv I think they're working on a replacement tank.
@edhines48642 жыл бұрын
I heard that they are working on one. I will look for the info.
@gamebredduramax712 жыл бұрын
@@rh-et2vv yes they do
@yeahok115sure2 жыл бұрын
Did you calculate the loss of pay load with your bigger tank? Doesn’t that bigger tank defeat the purpose of the gas payload?
@brianpounds26572 жыл бұрын
I have the same truck setup with a 31’, 37’ tip to tail, travel trailer that GVW is 10,000 pounds and with the 7.3l it’s a dream. No issues at all. Love the truck.
@HVTMuddvain2 жыл бұрын
Thats like the perfect truck to trailer weight sweet spot!👍
@billietyree2214 Жыл бұрын
Back in the 60s I towed a 55’ long 12” wide house trailer across Northern Indiana with a 1 ton chevy truck with a 327 asoline engine. 60 and 65 mph all the way, no harm.
@BocoGreenpeace6 ай бұрын
This is the best truck review of a truck I’ve viewed. It’s to the point, well delivered, and hits the key points.
@angelusbrick9172 жыл бұрын
We have same truck with 14,000 lb. 5th wheel. Installed transflow 50 gallon transfer tank in the bed. Best mod we have done. NO more gas station issues! Drive day is great!
@dr.blast__27132 жыл бұрын
How did u do that?
@angelusbrick9172 жыл бұрын
@@dr.blast__2713 it fits in front of my 5th wheel hitch. Pump is on the same side as my gas tank cap.
@Novagunner2 жыл бұрын
I'm a believer in letting creators know they made a good video, This is a great video. Short, to the point and informative..and clear. Thanks for taking the time to make this!
@RVMiles2 жыл бұрын
I really, truly appreciate that! Thank you!
@Frankwrite2 жыл бұрын
I also have the 7.3 liter gas engine in my 2020 F350 LTV dually with crew cab, long bed, 4WD, and 4.30 rear end ratio. I carry a Northern Lite 10-2 slide-in truck camper, which weighs a bit over 3200 pounds dry. In my pre-purchase research, I came across more than one online source saying that Ford targeted fleet buyers with the 7.3. They say the more simple push-rod engine tied to the great (IMO) 10-speed transmission will give the truck a very long life. We'll see. I love the flat torque curve, in any case. BTW, my mileage is similar to yours: 8 mpg when driving >65 mph; 11 mpg when driving
@bigoldal24362 жыл бұрын
We kept our 92 IDI 7.3 Dually for pulling our 33 ft triple slide Jayco Designer but keep it in storage. We bought a Power Boost XLT for current travels with 28 ft tag along 1 slide. When Duke Power failed twice for several hours the truck generator was a Blessing!
@Bigfish112 жыл бұрын
I pulled a 36 foot travel trailer for a long time with my gas 6.8 v10 superduty. Switching to diesel made life so much easier. I would never go back.
@MrFriday832 жыл бұрын
Getting 8mpg with that trailer with gas is very impressive, when I first clicked I was thinking you were gonna be getting 4, with other major items on the diesel like dpf system and filters kinda prices retail out of the market. Pretty cool to see gas is working for you
@leftycosta18992 жыл бұрын
I would love a head to head MPG comparison in towing between 7.3 vs 6.7 diesel. I know not towing, there is a 3-4 MPG difference.
@matthewpeterson33292 жыл бұрын
I agree. I owned a 2002 F-350 with the 7.3 powerstroke, and it was a wonderful tow vehicle, but it never got better than 11.5 mpg unladen. With a trailer weighing 1k lbs or 15k lbs, it got 9 mpg... it's like it knew I was towing and got thirsty regardless of weight. These days, aside from the $10k premium you pay for a diesel, the maintenance costs are significantly higher than a gasser. Oil changes are twice as much, multiple fuel filters that MUST be changed regularly, DEF cost, and god help you if you get some contaminated diesel that hurts your fuel rails... that will cost you about $10 to fix (ask the Ram owners about it). I have been teetering back and forth for a few years, but I think a gas truck is in my future. The savings buys a hell of a lot of gas over the life of the truck.
@MrFriday832 жыл бұрын
One question are you retail or do commercial use? Here is another way of thinking 10mpg Diesel@$5 , Gas 8mpg @$4 50,000 miles a year. Both are the same cost $25,000 a year in fuel. If you don't NEED the power and retail it's looking like gas. After writing this gas is looking better
@danielsnook5029 Жыл бұрын
We don't know if that's on the flats or in hills/mountains.
@MrFriday83 Жыл бұрын
@@danielsnook5029 His numbers are optimistic, the only scenario I see actually getting those numbers is downhill 😆
@mrme27042 жыл бұрын
Transfer flow is supposedly releasing a 58 gallon for the tremor 250/350 gas in April, keep an eye open for it. It's waiting on the carb approval supposedly due in April.
@rver992 жыл бұрын
Awesome. I hope they do. I've never understood why they have one for the f150 and Tundra but not the gas super duty. Hopefully the 7.3 popularity will encourage them to do so.
@johncuervo30192 жыл бұрын
Carb approval?
@mrme27042 жыл бұрын
@@johncuervo3019 California approval for emissions and stupidity
@wmpnj Жыл бұрын
I bought a 2022 Thor Challenger 37FH sitting on a 2020 Ford F53 chassis with the 7.3L Gorilla as they call it. I've been up/down Mt. Ashland, Grapevine, Raton and others. Put over 5,000 miles in 3 months on it. Other than the recall for the spark plug wires which I did have serviced in Buda, TX, I've been extremely happy with it. At 23,980 pounds it took all the passes at a minimum of 45mph. Screaming all the way of course and when the cooler for the tranny kicks in there are no conversations, but it handled it all very, very well. Going down, it was like having a jack brake on, very nice. I now drive wth the Tow Haul on at all times so I'm not half way up something and remember I didn't kick it in and to help with braking. Very happy with the 7.3L and tranny!
@eddiedoherty23492 жыл бұрын
The gas fill up issue is the same for Class A gassers. I am envious when I see a diesel in the truck pull through. Every fill up must be thought out and planned ahead. Bucees are a dream, so much room and so many pumps.
@RVMiles2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love a Bucees
@billdarrah50302 жыл бұрын
Agreed--especially with a toad! When on the road, I always hope for Flying J or Maverick RV lanes. I have dropped the toad for Costco prices then reattached after a fill up.
@DLTJR19592 жыл бұрын
We just purchased our first pusher and I never really gave much thought to the class A gas fuel issue until this Christmas when camping in Ft. Pierce. Had a new Newmar class A parked beside us. Was talking to the owner and told him what a nice unit he had. He told me filing up can be a pain in the rear. Never thought of that. We have to plan our fuel purchases also. Guess it's part of the deal.
@sfcjones25902 жыл бұрын
don't forget about the bucees nuggets...
@DillonPrecisionFan2 жыл бұрын
@@billdarrah5030 some of the newer Valero/Toot'n Totum stations in Texas have separate RV lanes with gasoline.
@1798iscomingback9 ай бұрын
My motorhome have this engine and when we are traveling we are close to 26000lbs (including towing a car). I love this engine, plenty of power and torque and quiet! 23000 miles so far w/o any problems.
@jamesofstedahl98022 жыл бұрын
I have a 21 tremor with the 7.3. I pull a fifth wheel also and when loaded I'm right at about 15,000#. I have to say with all that I have watched and listened to your comments are right on par with what I experience. my feeling is if you take care of this motor it will last a good amount of milage, I believe that you should get your moneys worth and then some. its also cheaper to replace this motor than even a re-build on a diesel, keep that in mind.
@RVMiles2 жыл бұрын
Right on!
@StarPartners2 жыл бұрын
IF .... If you properly Care for a dsl... They’ll generally last decades !!! I’ve got a ’93 Mack Bulldog semi with 985K miles and the engine/trans are still strong without a major rebuild....
@carlgshock2 жыл бұрын
@@StarPartners your 93 mack is not a light duty diesel and it also isn't full of sensors and exhaust filters and does not require DEF.
@ig30242 жыл бұрын
Did you get the 250 or 350?
@donclark567710 ай бұрын
Thinking about a riverstone that’s about 19,000 lbs. would the 7.3 in dually form tow it? Fords chart says 21,300 lbs.
@randys30102 жыл бұрын
Good information and very well explained. Glad to hear that you are happy with the 7.3. I think that the complexity of modern diesel engines strongly reduces their desirability and it is good to have excellent gasoline alternatives. I've been thinking that if I were in the market for such a vehicle that the big gasser would be the logical choice.
@Paiadakine2 жыл бұрын
With all the smog requirements for a diesel and the high maintenance cost it’s not worth it. With the new transmissions a gas truck with all the gearing can put down lots of torque.
@diegoranchinc53892 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 F250 6.2l gas and I love it. I owned six diesel trucks before it and I will never go back to one again. I have a trailer behind my truck almost everyday, a 25ft gooseneck flatbed, a 32ft bumper pull enclosed cargo trailer and a 35ft gooseneck six horse trailer with living quarters. I haul hay, horses, equipment and a ton more all the time and like I said before I love the truck. I did add AirLift air bags which helped out a lot Thanks for a great review....
@Icutmetal2 жыл бұрын
I knew the 7.3L was coming when I bought my 2018 Duramax (which I love overall) and was interested right from the start, but lacked the patience to wait. When it comes time to replace mine, I’ll definitely consider a 7.3 again. The diesel can pull…and pull…and pull, rarely downshifting with a reasonable load, but beyond that I am convinced that if you can get over the diesel bravado, it’s a wash anymore.
@ivandrago11332 жыл бұрын
Your comment made me legitimately laugh out loud. My wife and I have a dodge diesels as our daily’s and usually hook one up to a 42’ toy hauler when we head out for the weekend or for a week with the kids. I wouldn’t even consider trading one in on a gas truck. I don’t have anything against gassers, but I’m not going to find a gasser with over 1,075 lb/ft torque.
@Icutmetal5 ай бұрын
@@ivandrago1133Thanks for letting me know.
@xjackdareaperx28 күн бұрын
@@ivandrago1133 waste of money lol
@jeromep2 жыл бұрын
Let’s all consider that every new Class A gasser built now is equipped with a similar power train, 7.3 V8 connected to a 6 speed automatic. Those Class As are predominantly in the 14,000-22,000 lb. gross range. So the performance of the F350 with the 7.3 fits with what you’d find on a Class A and is well within its capabilities.
@lawnboy84012 жыл бұрын
My friend went broke repairing his Diesel truck. At 49 years old he had to borrow money from his parents to cover the massively expensive repairs he had to make on his Diesel truck. Grreat when their running but when they break you better have unlimited funds and really deep pockets.
@charlesperry1051 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I currently tow with a 2011 F250 with the 6.7L diesel. I am beginning the process of researching what truck I will replace it with. My 5th wheel is 12k lbs. The 7.3 is looking awfully good. I also tow a 10k lb equipment trailer. I am at that point with my 6.7L that I am doing expensive emissions related repairs. The EPA has ruined diesel engines. I no longer use my truck as a daily driver, so towing duty only. That will definitely reduce the number of miles I drive it per year.
@atomictyler2 жыл бұрын
I love the larger tank on my diesel F350. 60 gallons of diesel and we don't have to fill up at all during travel days. we stop and fill up when we're stopping for the day. Of course you can only do that with a diesel, but it sure is a big advantage. edit: I should add going through big cities with our standard tank was never fun. we would always need to fill up before or be searching after getting through. now we just keep on cruising.
@explanger5272 жыл бұрын
I got my grey wolf 26dbh with my 2000 Ford Expedition 4.6L 2wd. Not a great combination after a few weeks pulling and one trip over 50 miles. Realizing the trailer was too much for my beast of a truck. She was a trooper, 22 years old and 373k miles, but the trailer was soon found out to be just a bit too much for full-time RV life. Was able to get a 2004 6L F-250 SRW crew cab long box 4WD truck, flatbed. Nearly 40Gal diesel tank and about the same monthly cost in fuel from the expedition on my normal day to day use. Exceptional pulling, better braking, and medium duty features. 35" tires are a bit more than needed, but came with the truck. Have completed a 700 mile round trip at an average of 14 mpg hauling my unit from Central FL to middle GA and back. Can't complain there at all. Truck and trailer rig combinations do vary, but my 32ft trailer and 19ft truck make an amazing combo. Using the Kurt weight distribution hitch does help tremendously too. Even with diesel costs, I wouldn't live full time rv without a diesel truck. My teuck and trailer combo suit my needs, others may vary. Do the research, remember tongue weight, I forgot when I was trailer searching.
@yankeetown37392 жыл бұрын
This exactly answered my questions about this engine… thanks.
@kenanderson22162 жыл бұрын
I love my 2020 f450 7.3 GAS. Gets me up the on-ramps with no downshifting. Its a 12 ft bed commercial work truck. 11,00lbs with 20ft rack and lots o' tool boxes.
@DavidJDeden2 жыл бұрын
Same setup (minus tremor) 16klbs loaded on my GD 3740BH. 9200ft over mountain passes, cross country a couple times. Put 45,000 miles on it. Doing great! edit: I also regret not going long bed
@brentnutter15102 жыл бұрын
Because of trailer clearance, style of hitch or something else? Just curious.
@davidcaskey46692 жыл бұрын
I've been looking at this motor since wanted to give them a couple of years I think a 350 single wheel with a 3.73 or a lower gear would work best for me. I'd love to know what gears some people are running. And yes 8ft bed crew cab would be a must however saw a 8ft bed extended cab the other day that looked sharp
@garyschulte8592 жыл бұрын
@@davidcaskey4669 I can't yet give you the towing mpg, but here's the unloaded info. I have the 2022 7.3L F350 Lariat extended cab, 6.75 bed, 3.73 axle, 18c whels. Not Tremor, but I optioned nearly all of the Lariat Ultimate items and HD suspension items (minus the snowplow front springs). No winch or moonroof. The payload rating is 4035Lbs. With 2 of us in it and a full gas tank, it scaled 7800 LB. Empty, in town, with short trips mileage can go below 10 mpg. On I-17 up the hills from Phoenix to Flagstaff at 75+MPH, I get around 14 mpg and over 15 on the round trip total. Only 2500 miles on it yet so far. In 2 weeks I'll be picking up a new 32' 5th wheel DS toy hauler with probably 14K+ GVWR. A week or so later we plan to take it up to Flagstaff, which should be a good comparison to our unloaded runs. I'll keep my speed under 65mph for the towing.
@tomcat5986 Жыл бұрын
@@davidcaskey4669 3.73 or 4.30 are your only options as far as I know
@davidcaskey4669 Жыл бұрын
@@garyschulte859 thanks for the info let me know towing mileage maybe someone will post with the 4.30 gear
@jimm24422 жыл бұрын
You make some very good points especially about fueling. We came from a 36' class A motorhome (Winnebago Voyage 35L) that had a 8.1 liter Chevy gasoline engine (7.5 mpg on a good day) and we towed a small SUV (Chevy Tracker). The motorhome had a 75 gallon fuel tank, but still you had to take it into the gasoline side of the stations when fueling was required and that was al lot. There were often inconsiderate people that would cut in front of us or leave their car blocking pumps. We now own a fifth wheel (2021 Grand Design 303RLS) and a 2021 Chevrolet 3500HD SWR Diesel that has a 36 gallon fuel tank and an added 60 gallon tank in the bed behind the cab. This along with the ability to use the diesel pumps in the rear of stations away from the cars is worth the diesel truck price alone to me. The stress of fueling that motorhome is gone and the money that is saved being able to shop fuel prices instead being forced to buy due to need is a huge consideration. Like the Ford 7.3 the Chevrolet 8.1 gas engine produced it's torque at a high RPM and you knew it on every hill. We live in the Sierra Mountains and the diesel is night and day better with the exception of its cost. Thanks for the video and safe travels.
@deanmay3382 жыл бұрын
Hi Jason, great review of the 7.3L Godzilla V8. I am not really brand loyal in terms of mid-size or half-ton trucks, but if we ever needed a heavy duty pickup, it would be a Ford so we could get the 7.3L engine. Great engine choice in terms of capability. We would never need a diesel, so the 7.3L would be my engine of choice. I also think that 8 to 9 mpg at 65 mph towing a 43 foot 5er is respectable, particularly given how much you saved over the diesel engine. As always, thanks for an informative video!
@RVMiles2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the cost is such a huge factor. Good to hear from you Dean!
@terrymoeller30962 жыл бұрын
Love my 7.3. Fuel mileage on mine is 6.9 pulling 15000. Drive 65 mph. I do have long bed with 48 gallon tank and love it.
@paullane74892 жыл бұрын
That was a really great video and great explanation of your experience with the 7.3 L. That was valuable information for many people. Thank you👍🇺🇸👍🇺🇸
@RVMiles2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@lucasharju2 жыл бұрын
You did an excellent job of getting to the point and explaining the different variables in comparing all the options. Clear, concise and quick! So often KZbin informational videos are full of fluff, not this one! Kudos
@temoswalt23712 жыл бұрын
Thank you for an honest and well explained review. I'm leaning this way as well, was considering the 3.73 gears, but the 4.10 has the towing advantage. I also hadn't considered the short bed vs long bed fuel capacity, good point.
@johnbouldin90332 жыл бұрын
Make sure you try turning around in a cul-de-sac with the long bed or a parking lot before you commit.
@strang11242 жыл бұрын
Put a 30- 50 gal. auxilary tank in the bed. That will fix the fuel issue
@stacimccarter5312 жыл бұрын
I ordered my truck with 4.30s and a 48 gallon tank but its a 4door long bed
@jc74352 жыл бұрын
I have a 22’ 250 7.3 4.30 ccsb. Just towed a 7,000 tall TT with the whole family, 2 dogs, gear, and a quad in the bed. I went up the I-80 eb grade from sac to Placerville. It did awesome! 7.5mpg but it’s a steep long grade. I would expect 9-10 on the flats.
@jimsmith98192 жыл бұрын
i had a 74 GMC one ton dually, with 5.7 L gas and four speed manual transmission, i towed a 38 foot RV/ Toy hauler fifth wheel with it, several times with no major issues, if it had had a five speed it probably would have climbed hills better. i prefer duallys for better stability
@danielsnook5029 Жыл бұрын
There is an auxillary fuel tank solution that fits where the truck spare tire resides. It's expensive and you have to start carrying the spare in the bed or mount it on 5th wheel bumper.
@daves16462 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your experience with the 7.3L gas in the 1 ton F-series. Impressive!!
@RVMiles2 жыл бұрын
You bet!
@stevenhanna2422 жыл бұрын
That 7.3 is a beast
@Carl-th8rz2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. One add. The Pilot/FlyingJ app can be sorted by “RV Friendly” location…many with RV specific pumps (meaning long pull through with gas as an option).
@ERIKCANTU2 жыл бұрын
One note that I found out the hard way, once you find the RV friendly locations, look at the details and make sure they have the specific things you need.
@wizpopr2 жыл бұрын
I pull a Sabre 37FLH with a 2500HD Diesel. I used to pull it with the same truck with a gas engine. I will never pull it again with a gas engine. I got 6.5 mpg with the Chevy 6.0. We snowbird in Florida and drive from Illinois every year. I had to disconnect the camper to get gas at virtually every truck stop. I'm so glad that I bought the diesel. I did look for quite a long time before I found a pre-owned Chevy 2500HD with Duramax, but I found a 2019 last year with 2500 miles and the price was right. Going through the commercial lanes is awesome, even if you do have to go in and pre-pay.
@mikewest7122 жыл бұрын
I can't believe these manufacturers offer 1 tons without a long bed. They pull better, Payload hauls better, bigger tanks can haul plywood and 8 foot boards, and they look to scale. Long live the long bed.
@mattlane22822 жыл бұрын
Why this guy wanted single rear wheels with a 43 foot trailer LOL and a short wheelbase... like... a fool for every seat.
@TraconWizard20 күн бұрын
What are you babbling about? Ford has the 7.3 gas with a long bed.
@coldnnh69832 жыл бұрын
It’s just those damn hills, I’ve towed with both with same trailer, the fuel savings on long trips is enormous with diesel, 7-8 with gas , 13-14 with Cummins, plus resale, good luck on your journey
@bullnukeoldman37942 жыл бұрын
I purchased a '19 F350 with the 6.2 gas/4.30 axle and regularly tow a 16k, 41' horse trailer w/living quarters. It tows perfectly fine as stated in this video and attains similar fuel mileage. My previous tow vehicle was a '99 F350 diesel that towed the same trailer - my '19 gasser does just as well or better than my previous truck. The 7.3 gas is a good engine but I'd purchase another 6.2 instead of paying the premium for it - not worth it in my experience.
@thejuiceisloose87032 жыл бұрын
I have a 11 f250 with the 6.2. My truck has 3.73 gears and the 6 speed auto. I have to say I couldn’t be happier with the capabilities of this engine. Even with the gearing I can pull 12k with ease. Mileage is not quite as good as the newer trucks. But not too much of a difference. I’d be happy with a newer 6.2 myself
@jamesmooney53482 жыл бұрын
Nice video with good info. Quick and to the point. No annoying hype.
@peterdeboer28052 жыл бұрын
You should see if they make an aftermarket gas tank with a bigger capacity. Some are available for other trucks that take advantage of void spaces around the tank.
@03tarserov642 жыл бұрын
They’re expensive as fuck tho lol
@peterdeboer28052 жыл бұрын
@@03tarserov64 can never win with today's prices
@tomchepey29992 жыл бұрын
Great explanation and I agree. That is exactly why we bought a gas Tremor. Flying J in Comfort, TX today 3/6/22 was $3.89 for 87 octane and $4.89 for diesel. 26K on out truck with o issues. No death wobble.
@tomahawk3502 жыл бұрын
Interested to see how these OHV engines perform long term. The last pushrod V8 Ford used was the 302 in '01. Those motors are still on the road and working well.
@RVMiles2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I liked that it was built for longevity, even though that's yet to be seen. I might not have taken a chance on it without that being such a focus in everything from Ford's mouths.
@thebigguy2 жыл бұрын
Are you aware that the Ford 7.3L gas engine is a pushrod engine?
@RVMiles2 жыл бұрын
Yes, that's what we're talking about.
@thebigguy2 жыл бұрын
@@RVMiles D'OH! My brain read Overhead Cams... Too tired.
@jeromep2 жыл бұрын
What is old is new again. Ford’s 7.3 doesn’t fall too far from the old 460ci (7.5L) V8. This is a clean sheet design, but being a pushrod engine, shares genetics with all the great large blocks of the past. The old V10 proved itself to be quite tough and is all over the place and will remain in service for years to come; that UPS truck that visited your house today is probably not new and is probably on the Ford F-59 chassis which means the V10, but Ford couldn’t squeeze any more performance or efficiency out of that design. Going back to a pushrod V8 shortens the total engine height and makes it possible for it to be put into many more applications than the much taller V10. The V10 was an overhead cam engine which made the heads very tall. Ford also looked at what GM was doing with the much vaunted LS engines and was looking for something that was more competitive with the LS engines. You can purchase the new Ford 7.3 from their performance division as a crate engine that makes 600HP naturally aspirated, right out of the box. It is going to be interesting to see where this engine ends up; not just in pickups and motorhomes, but probably in a lot of hot rods, customs and street racers. Supposedly it can be shoehorned into Fox body Mustangs!
@rickwilkinson16512 жыл бұрын
After renting a 26ft uhaul with car hauler with car weighing 6k plus a fully loaded truck right over 24k i was impressed we averaged 6 mpg from phx to tx and between 8&9 from tx to wisconsin we cruised at 76mph the whole way other then climbing the mountains between phx and flagstaff and a few other mountain passes. Im a diesel guy but with all the emissions equipment and def i wont touch a new diesel truck. I will buy a 7.3 gas in a heart beat after seeing what this motor is capable of. Also the 650 class trucks are running 6 speed auto and did not fell like i was missing power.
@lot-a-timers45072 жыл бұрын
While I have and love my GMC 3500 diesel, I appreciated you honest views and information (like you always do with all subjects) on how the gas truck worked for you. I did not think about he “gas lines only” and not the RV/Truck lanes with diesel only…thanks!!
@SurelyYewJest2 жыл бұрын
Ya, towing a 5th wheel and not being able to go through the truck side would/will be a problem at A LOT of places including large truck-stop supercenter-type stations. Not only do you have to worry about overhead clearance (which is more a problem at smaller stations) you have to worry about there being enough space for your total turning radius getting into the station, to a pump, and getting out of the station without blocking traffic. That's to say nothing of having to potentially wait for multiple cars to finish filling before you can squeeze in to a line of pumps 2-3 deep. You're also trying to avoid causing damage to the facility's stuff or your trailer. I would think that with the gas engine, investing in the largest possible factory fuel tank or adding an aftermarket one in the bed will help immensely in reducing pump anxiety. This is what has to be done if you don't drop the trailer somewhere first, which is a HUGE pain in the ass to have to do.
@daniellindstrom90022 жыл бұрын
I have a 2017 F250 with the 6.2 Liter, I installed a 50 gallon transfer flow aux tank in my bed. Works great on long trips with the travel trailer.
@vtmkb2 жыл бұрын
I ran into some of the same issues. I wasn’t ready for a DRW so I went with the Ram 3500 gas SRW. The diesel had a much lower payload because a Diesel engine is much heavier than a gas.
@dank80172 жыл бұрын
Some diesels like my Chevy 2500 have a have a higher gvwr than their gas counterparts. Mine is #500 more than my buddies gas. Both are 2500hd
@brendanhonea14322 жыл бұрын
@@dank8017 Yep any of the 2020+ 3/4 ton duramax trucks can be upgraded to a 11500 GVWR package which give them over 3000lb payload
@JohnDiMartino2 жыл бұрын
@@brendanhonea1432 these are 1 ton trucks with 2500 emblems. The DOT and enforcement agencies can stop and inspect them so you may as well get the 3500 srw which rides better anyway abs gets you over 12000 gvwr
@TonyBenton07282 жыл бұрын
@@JohnDiMartino No they can’t ! DOT only stops commercial vehicles. This is not a commercial vehicle.
@yeahok115sure2 жыл бұрын
People focus way to much on payload rating. Get some air bags and be done. Your truck will pull just fine. In the semi truck world there is no such thing as payload rating. You could take a short single frame freightliner with little 36k axles and hook it to my super loads of 245,000lbs. It’s legal, but it’s stupid. Will the truck pull it, yes. Will the truck wear out fast? Absolutely. This is why there are no gas powered semi trucks. It’s dumb. Same should be said about pickups that haul 15k travel trailers.
@luvRVing9 ай бұрын
Excellent info. I have that truck without the tremor pkg and I have 4014 payload with the 4.3 rear end. I special ordered this truck to tow as much as we possibly could as we get ready to purchase our new 5th wheel. I too, like you, given the chance to do it again would buy the long bed with the bigger tank and keep everything else. Really appreciate your review of this!!
@garysanchezphotography2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to get a new ruck this year and I just can't deal with half the torque and much less fuel mileage along with going through the car pumps.
@thedolt9215 Жыл бұрын
I love KZbin informational videos that start without cheesy introductions and music and what not… I usually immediately turn them off. Give me the information, and thanks! This was a great video.
@RVMiles Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@patrickmelson47452 жыл бұрын
Good choice and explanation. I had to update my truck and went with the new Chevy 6.4 gas. It's great for the price. I was lucky to find one. I could not find a 7.3 gas with the higher tow rating. I couldn't find one with the taller axle gears. Many fleets are going away from diesel with down time and repair costs It's a shame, but the numbers don't work well for Desiel anymore compared to the performance and gas mileage of these modern gas engines.
@randyphillips5592 жыл бұрын
I don't understand your "but the numbers don't work well for Diesel anymore compared to the performance and gas mileage of these modern gas engines." statement?? At 470lb tq compared to lowest diesel at 850lb tq, for pulling power I see NO comparison, I'd say the numbers don't work well for the gas!
@nhlcfl77332 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear you're happy with the new Chevy/GM engine. Perhaps you meant to write 6.6, not 6.4.
@davidcaskey46692 жыл бұрын
@randy phillips 4gallons of oil for a change high price of fuel and oil filters,the def fluid plus the extra engine ware due to emissions and bad fuel mileage compared to the older diesels. 6 injectors for a 12valve Cummins $600 6 injectors for the 6.7 Cummins over $3000. My friends ford got bad fuel coming back from Colorado had some def fluid in it he could have done said he didnt I tend to believe him he has equipment but any way it was $12,000 dollars to fix fuel system
@RedBeardsGarage2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel because I bought a 7.3 F350. Love how you explain things and get right to the point without wasting my time. Great content and I wish you the best of luck with your channel!
@RVMiles2 жыл бұрын
Welcome aboard!
@victoryrider2 жыл бұрын
I really wanted the Tremor package but wanted the 48 gallon gas tank long box more. Really love my 22 F350 7.3
@rhealdingus76632 жыл бұрын
48 gallon + long box was the deciding factor for me. I can bolt on everything that came with the Tremor package, but I'm not bolting on a longer bed.
@SuperDuty2502 жыл бұрын
Long box is where its at🤟🇺🇸
@TheBandit76132 жыл бұрын
I have a new 7.3 powered truck. I love it. It's a powerhouse yet civilized. not bad on gas considering. Very smooth. No crap diesel emissions which WILL fail.
@dank80172 жыл бұрын
Scare tactics. Things will fail on a gasser too.
@TheBandit76132 жыл бұрын
@@dank8017 At work we have over a thousand new diesel pickups. (Local public works) Diesel emissions parts are failing by the dozens and they are considering switching the whole fleet to gas. Lots of idling at work is bad for exhaust filters. The idling is necessary. I still have my deleted F350 in the garage.
@headdown12 жыл бұрын
I have been towing a 15000 lb 38 ft fifth wheel until recently. I have a Cummins Ram 3500 with a 100 gallon diesel tank in the bed of the truck. I get about 12 mpg towing, and about 23 not towing at 65 mph. Range is about 1400 miles while towing, and close to 2800 miles unloaded. Nice to be able to take advantage of buying a lot of cheap diesel when I find it. I assume you use Gas Buddy app to find fuel?
@jzwolak2 жыл бұрын
Wow! That's a nice setup. Also, at 12 mpg towing, you more than make up for the difference in diesel vs gas prices to save on fuel.
@headdown12 жыл бұрын
@@jzwolak I've read of a test where the same Ram truck towing 15,000 lbs with a Hemi got 7 mpg...
@snirtman72232 жыл бұрын
@@headdown1 I drive a Ram 3500 SRW 6.4 hemi pulling a 15,000 gooseneck trailer everyday for work and average about 6mpg. Does it pull the load - yes. Does it pull it well - absolutely not. Somehow made it 265,000 miles before a lifter failed, but I'd kill for a diesel or a 7.3 superduty.
@headdown12 жыл бұрын
@@snirtman7223 Oh man...12 sounds pretty good compared to 6 mpg. The Cummins has been really strong, and I love the turbo that gives me the same power at high altitude as sea level. I just filled both tanks with 132 gallons of diesel, expecting the price to rise fast in the next while.
@TruckerJohn-lu5wi8 ай бұрын
Just found you guys. Good info. We also have a gas F-350 but ours is the 2021 with a 6.2L. All of the 7.3L were in the King Ranch's and could not afford a $80,000 truck. We tow a 30 foot Keystone RD24S 5th wheel and after 32,000 miles have had no problems in our journeys. Thanks for the good videos.
@RVMiles8 ай бұрын
Thanks so myck for being here!
@TimTheTowman2 жыл бұрын
Factor in the cost of the regular services, fake mileage claims and the inevitable repairs to injectors,pumps and turbos on the diesel and I'd say you made a better buy.. Plus you bought a truck with the right gear ratio for towing.. Most of the diesel trucks have the wrong ratios for towing which increases the static load on the drivetrain leading to most of the common failures that all three brands see pretty regularly.. The only time any of the diesel trucks pencil out is when you are earning money with them nearly every mile you drive them! Otherwise, it's all vanity..
@HVTMuddvain2 жыл бұрын
Ya i think if im towing 10k a year that justifies the diesel but hey again its all personal preference in the long run. Ive only had 1 of my 3 diesels over the years have an injector failure no turbos no pumps thats 03 5.9 cummins and a 12 6.7 Ford and a 13 6.7 Cummins. Definitely not very many in comparison to some other people but combined i was around 300k miles driven between all of those trucks. The two Cummins were also sadly bought used nvr know how they treated them. But i dont tune and race around just hay and horse trailers occasional atv and brother inlaws toy hauler. Again to each their own but ABSOLUTELY NO GASSER will ever feel as secure and strong as any of the big three Diesels when you hook up to 15k plus lbs been there done that. Just cause something CAN doesnt mean its the best choice. But all that said i love the 7.3 seems like its going to be a very strong choice for low tow mileage peeps weekend warriors and such.
@xjackdareaperx28 күн бұрын
@@HVTMuddvain I think a f150 hybrid would be the perfect fit for you
@ottocarr3688 Жыл бұрын
Wow, what a great tutorial! An active tire monitoring system diminishes the concern over having dual tires. You can even include the system on the trailer. It is rare that RVers are as concerned about legally towing as you. Kudos to you in all instances.
@ericschaefer54072 жыл бұрын
Love my 7.3, I sold my 2013 6.7 to buy it, it does everything I ask it to do, granted my max load is 14k ( dump trailer and mini excavator) i feel better knowing I can repair any engine issues that come up. My 6.7 went through 4 EGR coolers, and that was just a short list of issues I had with it.
@michaelcrimi992 жыл бұрын
I switched back to gas as well,, after a $9,000 bill on my 2008 6.0 .. Been happy with the 6.2, pulling 12k .
@adamshaw82142 жыл бұрын
@@michaelcrimi99 there was no 6.0 diesel in 2008
@adamshaw82142 жыл бұрын
Eric tell the rest of the issues on the powerstroke.
@bparkinson1234 Жыл бұрын
Just sold my 7.3 diesel. Went with 2023 super duty with 7.3 godzilla. Love it. Thanks
@markbeck68662 жыл бұрын
First time watching your videos and I must say you’re better than most. You have a subject to discuss and you give it quite succinctly. You’re to the point and don’t ramble on like so many do. Thank you, this was very informative and helpful.
@ls1jeeper2 жыл бұрын
I have a 20 F550 with the 7.3, truck weights 19,400 lbs. It will get 10.5 mph with the cruise set. It gets around just fine, power isn't a huge issue
@SuperJason2k2 жыл бұрын
Did you consider a long-bed truck and the increased GVRW? We're looking at a similar sized fifth wheel, and if you go F-350 Diesel Lariat Long Bed crew cab, you can get over 4,000lbs payload. Best of all worlds. F-350 SRW Short Bed: 11,500lbs GVWR F-350 SRW Long Bed: 12,400lbs GVWR
@ben120799 ай бұрын
I don’t know if you monitor comments on a two-year old video, but here goes. I had a 2020 Lariat with the 7.3 Godzilla engine and absolutely loved it…, except…. I hated, feared, loathed and often felt like crying when I had to fuel up while towing. I was towing a 35’ travel trailer that weighed under 10K pounds. The 7.3 was a monster tow vehicle. I could pass anything on the highway (I didn’t, but I could have) without it breaking a sweat. But I really, really hated to refuel. Maneuvering around a gasoline station was absolutely awful. Unhooking and rebooking a travel trailer was a pain in the wazoo compared to a 5th wheel. So now I’m driving a long-bed diesel and towing a 5th wheel. All in all, I’m happy with my set up and love refueling in the trucker lanes. Anyway, you’re absolutely correct in your assessment of the 7.3 engine’s abilities. It’s a great engine. Safe travels.
@travisstuart12312 жыл бұрын
We did exactly the same thing pulling Avalanche 312rs 15000 lbs max I don't think we are anywhere close to that love the truck though
@EricBardenSpicerGroup2 жыл бұрын
Transfer flow is making a 55 gallong factory replacement for our trucks...supposed to be available spring 2022. I have the same concern with the 34 gallon tank and will be upgrading mine.
@dman63772 жыл бұрын
I would really love to know where you are getting your information from? My SRW 3500 Ram Laramie w/6.7L Cummins Mega Cab 4X4 has a payload of 4400lbs and a tow rating of 19000lbs. more than capable of towing your rig at the numbers you mentioned, and I get 14 L/100km (17mpg) towing my 36 FT fiver. so please let me know where your figures are coming from on SRW Diesels?
@RVMiles2 жыл бұрын
I was talking about the similarly equipped Ford. The diesel Tremor is about 3200 payload. If I didn't want the Tremor, I could have had more payload in either the gas or diesel.
@dman63772 жыл бұрын
@@RVMiles you simply state in your video that a "similarly equip SRW diesel, can't actually tow this fifth wheel" but its not similarly equipped diesel, its just the Tremor. Thank you for the clarification.
@jimposey29272 жыл бұрын
Best assessment of this comparison that I have heard, excellent, factual, brief, and to the point! Thank you!
@GanderFlight2 жыл бұрын
Love it - very thorough as always and your points were clear. I can imagine the larger tank on the long bed would absolutely be a welcome addition.
@RVMiles2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there's apparently an aftermarket 55 gallon replacement tank coming out this summer that I've got my eye on.
@GanderFlight2 жыл бұрын
@@RVMiles Any releases on what kind of pricepoint though?
@joeallison2779 Жыл бұрын
Our 2022 F350 7.3 with 4.30 gears has no trouble towing our 18,000 pound fifth wheel. One of the things that we upgraded was our fuel tank, which at 34 gallons was really inadequate as far as range goes would just barely over 200 miles. We replaced the tank with a transfer flow 58 gallon tank which now gives us a range of over 400 miles. I know it has been a while since you posted this video but hopefully this comment will catch up and be helpful. Merry Christmas to you and your family.
@danielblocker80082 жыл бұрын
This was the perfect informational youtube video. Right to the point, well informed, gave facts and 1st hand experience. Great job! Take my sub!
@troyford7541 Жыл бұрын
So glad I finally found this content. I've seen a ton of videos explaining how this exact truck is amazing at towing 9k, 10k or even 12k lbs of trailer. But my new camper has a gvwr of 15k lbs and I've been searching high and low for info on how it handles that type of weight. Thank you for this.
@robertthomas29422 жыл бұрын
I run a fleet for a utility, and we are changing from diesel to gas in our service vehicles. Diesels were great in the 90's and early 2000's, now not so much. The maintenance on the emissions systems is the killer. How many blown up 6.4 Fords do you need to see? The gasser trucks hardly ever give trouble. We have two of the 7.3 godzillas in 1ton service trucks, and so far they are excellent. We will be ordering more. Unfortunately, for anything less than medium duty, diesel is dead.
@Berto-11172 жыл бұрын
Thats simply not true. If you tow more than 10k often a diesel is more beneficial, youll save a ton on fuel and long term on the maintenance of the vehicle, only issues with new diesels are emissions, which in most states you can just remove and get away with
@robertthomas29422 жыл бұрын
@@Berto-1117 If you regularly drive more than 100 miles a day, or tow very heavy, the diesel begins to make sense. Let me put this in perspective for you. I have had to replace TWO Ford 6.4 diesels. The cost for each engine was $22,000 installed. That is a dealer installed, warrantied, remanufactured Ford engine. Both of them died with just over 100K on the clock. Both fleet maintained and got everything they needed when they needed it. Deleting emissions is not an option with a corporate or municipal fleet. Breaking Federal emissions laws makes our lawyers angry and would cost me my job. Additionally, unless you have been living under a rock, you would know the EPA has cracked down massively on the deleting industry. And many States do test, so what's your solution there? Our gassers in the fleet last just as long as the diesels at this point with very little beyond oil changes. The diesels are money pits and I have a stack of receipts to prove it. Those receipts pay for a lot of gas.
@Berto-11172 жыл бұрын
@@robertthomas2942 dude 6.4 fords are literal trash
@robertthomas29422 жыл бұрын
@@Berto-1117 And so are 6.0s, and the 6.7s ain't much better. And the 6 Cummins in my fleet? Yeah, they have problems, you guessed it, with the emissions systems. New diesels are a nightmare. The heavy duty repair shop we use is replacing his smaller F550 wreckers with 7.3 gas versions. Why? Keeping the diesels costs too much. You're entitled to your opinions. But mine are based in facts from maintenance costs on a municipal fleet. I have no dog in the fight, I don't care if a vehicle is diesel or gas. What I care about is downtime and maintenance costs. And the gassers are winning hands down.
@Berto-11172 жыл бұрын
@@robertthomas2942 emissions is total garbage we are in agreement, but you can remove it, pretty easily and hastle free, if you want you can also do it legaly. A truck with a 6.7 cummins will make you money, they sure make me a lot
@benhandley97392 жыл бұрын
Thank you…7.3 F250 with a 7500# Travel Trailer and some would say overkill but I don’t regret it at all. Such a safer experience. Safe travels!
@rdatkins12 жыл бұрын
I have a 7,500 pound travel trailer. Pulled it with a F150, experience was marginal on a good day and not fun at all on a bad day. I found that wind and "truck suck" was a far larger issue than the weight. Light years better with my F250.
@herb78772 жыл бұрын
@@rdatkins1 sounds like we have the same experience. Towed a 7400# TT with my f150 ECO Heavy Tow for 5 years. Plenty of power but strong winds were a pain. After waiting 7 months my f350 XLT 7.3l arrived. Currently on a 4k trip. Only 1800 miles on the clock before starting but so far after 2k miles towing it is definitely a big improvement .
@jamesvaldez40932 жыл бұрын
@@herb7877 Nice. What's your fuel mileage?
@herb78772 жыл бұрын
@@jamesvaldez4093 currently have ~3100 miles on the clock. 1400 on this current trip pulling a 7400# tt from PDX & now outside Phoenix. Lots of large winds and big hills and averaging~10 mpg’s. Just a little under the same trip 2 years ago with my f150 eco. I’m pleased! In the high head winds (25-35 mph per weather news) I was getting 6mpg’s for about 120 miles. Another long stretch of rain & wind in Oregon I got 8.8 for a tank. I got 17 empty on a 400+ mile trip empty and only 400 miles on the clock. About 13 in town. I rarely drive it empty or in town, I bought it to tow and it’s day and night difference in handling from the f150. I loved my ECO, great power and great ride empty, but a lot more moving around in towing, especially when the semi passes. The F350 has very little to no movement. In high winds the was a white knuckle drive.
@jamesvaldez40932 жыл бұрын
@@herb7877 Awesome!!! Thanks for the info and be safe on your travels.
@curtisbull15832 жыл бұрын
Video well done. The 7.3 gas option is truly way above anything the competition has and does very well for a gas option. I can see how some people can be pretty satisfied with it for most towing applications. I did consider this option for my newest purchase, but knew I would have times when even this 7.3 gas option would not produce the power and ease of towing I look for in a tow rig. Tried a 21 ford f350 diesel, wasn't real satisfied with it, so after about a month I traded it in on another ram cummins, this time getting a 3500 HO. Great truck, now with tuning and STUFF, truck runs great tows my 15,000 lbs toy hauler anywhere with out breaking a sweat. And Rams exhaust brake is night a day better at stopping a heavy load then anything ford or GM has. Stopping power is just as important and pulling power, if not more important. If I ever stop traveling across the country and or move to a much lighter rv I could see myself getting the 7.3 gas. But if buying for our company and workers to drive, hands down the gas option is the only good option, financially speaking.
@om617yota72 жыл бұрын
Gassers were getting it done for a long time, before the diesels came along and got popular. Unwilling to stomach the price of a newer diesel, especially considering it'd get used only every couple weeks, I went with a Vortec 454 powered Chevy. My best bud has a 5 year newer Cummins/Dodge, and we can keep up with each other on the hills just fine, loaded or full. Empty, his Cummins gets 20mpg, and my big block Chevy gets 9mph. Hauling, he gets 15mpg, I get 8 mpg. Very happy with it.
@TheMinnow1012 жыл бұрын
Man you sure got the diesel guys all worked up with this video. Guess they’re feeling a little threatened. Or maybe it’s a case of the Short Man Syndrome. It’s great to hear the straight skinny from someone that has actual towing experience with this engine. And although you may have issues from time to time fueling up, be assured at least those concerns are offset by the diesel guys who have a potential CP4 fuel pump imploding, DEF contamination, DPF filter plugged, SCR and assorted sensors crapping out worries knawing at them. Not to mention the cost of diesel fuel .40 - .70 cents a gallon higher then gas. You made the right choice. By the way I own a tow my fifth wheel with a diesel…..
@normalguy5562 жыл бұрын
I've towed with both (travel for my job) and the ability to maneuver in the small parking lot areas where you get gas was the biggest issue for me.
@the_truck_farmer2 жыл бұрын
@@normalguy556 I find it interesting that this complaint about gas powered trucks seems to be the most prevalent. I guess I don’t tow a big tall rv but I’ve never had too much trouble with gas pumps (I usually pull a flat bed trailer)
@normalguy5562 жыл бұрын
@@the_truck_farmer I have a 38ft bumper pull. 90% of gas stations not on major freeways were not feasible. Especially if it was during the day with cars parked in spot. I carried 2, 5 gallon gas cans for that reason and it was always stressful having to look on Google maps satellite to plan out gas stations that I could make it into. Going from that to being able to pull into a diesel pump thats designed for semis is effortless and a huge load off of my mind.
@the_truck_farmer2 жыл бұрын
@@normalguy556 I thought it was weird that a new constructed gas station in my town put gas pumps next to their diesel pumps on the truck islands and now I’m understanding why. But yeah, that’s a rare exception…
@davidcaskey46692 жыл бұрын
Diesel just have to much emissions to make them a good long lasting motor now
@rvcouple75662 жыл бұрын
A couple of points we noted. 1) We’ve found diesel fuel is often cheaper than gas. (2) We have found fueling in the truck side with our 43” 5th wheel is easy. We also use an RV card that allows us to pay at the pump and often with a discount. (3) Our mileage towing is higher than it appears you get with gas. A big plus. (4) We negotiated and didn’t pay an extra 8-9K for the diesel motor. Ended up about 1k more is all. Just wanted to clarify our finding on this. On the other hand we did finally decide to go with the long bed dually for safety due to the length of the 5th wheel. We also use a gooseneck for better control and bed use when not towing.
@Steven_Lee_Music2 жыл бұрын
"We’ve found diesel fuel is often cheaper than gas" Where do you see this?
@CFPVideoProductions2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. I'm glad to see someone that looks deep into pros and cons and has real hands on experience. Keep up the good reports. They all seem thorough and with a lot of research.
@RVMiles2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@judystreich73332 жыл бұрын
That was a lot of good info, hope it will help some people who are on the fence on what to buy. We have a 7.3L Diesel. It is a 2001, yes, that is not a typo, with less than 98000 miles that we towed our 27 ft fifth wheel. It is a very confident ride, can get in anyplace, but because of health issues (stroke) has been sitting idle. My comment is a reference to tires. I have seen and been passed by rv’ers like they are being chased by the law! I wonder how many people out there are aware there is a speed rating on their tires? Regarding The Ford gas engine, I bought a 2020 class c and it has a V10 gas, I believe it was the last year they put that engine in the class c. It is a powerhouse, and I love it. I went from the dealer to the garage and got an alignment, replaced the shocks with heavy duty RV shocks, and added a steer safe system to it. Drives like it suppose to now 👍
@bizzle48192 жыл бұрын
Speed ratings on trailer tires are quite shocking. I bought an enclosed trailer, nice all aluminum etc, cant even drive the speed limit on the highway lol