What If Legacy Console Edition Was Still Developed In 2024?

[@KAY0DE]

4J's Menus were so much more user friendly than bedrock

[@emilydavidson8844]

Becuase they were made with controllers only in mind bedrock is designed around touch Kbm and controller

[@colin3ds1]

​@@emilydavidson8844 whats stopping them from giving this UI to console players? Java modders were able to add it to Java

[@angel23444]

than java*

[@angel23444]

​@@emilydavidson8844sadly that is not true for ore ui since it's designed exclusively for mobile and its layout is terrible on any other controls

[@trioOFmischief]

@@angel23444 no, they meant bedrock

[@Strafely]

no way?? a really close friend of mine made this modpack, it blows me away seeing his stuff being shown off like this

[@randomphantom3976]

Please I beg of you, get him to at least do a little bit of this on Bedrock, I want my Console back! Bedrock has its good things but I'd take an up-to-date Legacy Console instead of Bedrock any day. The crafting menu in Bedrock is a living hell, it's so darn laggy (at least on Switch and PS4 which is still dumb) and there's no organization! The Marketplace only carried over a tiny amount of the old skin packs, there were a lot of good skins in there that Mojang don't need permission for that they could've carried over. Coords on maps was 100% the best option possible for viewing coords. Making custom flat worlds was just plain awesome. The redstone was one of the countless examples of how Legacy was the best of both Java and Bedrock features, along with almost everything else. And most importantly, it's going to have massive demand on Bedrock because that's the one that USED TO BE Legacy Console, so even if it were a PAID add-on they'd still make a fortune for years to come. This is the version of Minecraft that actually needs it! Sorry, this is just my years of background frustration coming to the surface. I really wish Legacy Console was still up-to-date, that was my childhood and I really miss it.

[@djurran48]

​@@randomphantom3976that will sadly not happen. Bedrock modding is pretty much impossible outside of server.jar and addons

[@trioOFmischief]

⁠@@randomphantom3976 You can’t really make an addon of that, and bedrock edition and console edition are completely separate versions. If you’re that desperate then just play console edition

[@Vendetta_killer]

​@@randomphantom3976 a youtuber called AgentMindStorm already made a very well done Legacy Resource Pack if you'd like to check it out

[@sacrificiallamb4568]

@@trioOFmischief I assume it could be done somehow. Except the new menus, those are hardcoded now. Not for the Marketplace though.

[@reistsolardown]

I still want 4J to release a free map that is a huge compilation of previous tutorial worlds

[@emilydavidson8844]

It would have to be paid tho

[@ultimate9056]

​@@emilydavidson8844bedrock brainrot

[@Copperkaiju]

Is 4J even allowed to make Minecraft content anymore?

[@emilydavidson8844]

@@Copperkaiju yes for the marketplace

[@user-fq2mz4ho9f]

​@@emilydavidson8844 Planetminecraft exists and don't justify paying Microsoft unnecessary money except Console players they are helpless from the paywall.

[@megavsprime]

Toycat: *eats an apple instead of a pear while visiting Mojang Studios before Better Together* The timeline:

[@Chance_Rice]

The menu sounds are truly amazing

[@MemeSource.]

Not a day goes by without thinking this exact senario

[@Noname-v4p]

😂

[@meooooowB3]

there were some elements of console that were just so good

[@FarCrazy]

Agreed

[@SpaceFluffDW]

The fact this doesn’t exist is proof we are in the darkest timeline.

[@Nightcaat]

And all because Baby Gronk and the Rizzler took hold of Minecraft

[@ThymeHere]

We are…

[@antikommunistischaktion]

​​@@NightcaatWokism* Microsoft wasn't actually all too bad with Minecraft when Notch first sold it, but as Microsoft went more and more woke (removing Notch, DEI hires, chat reporting system) the game has really taken a turn. If Microsoft has never gone woke they might have never yanked console away from 4J

[@V38-r7t]

@@Nightcaatcommie

[@mousegirl03]

​​@@antikommunistischaktion get a job lol

[@tmc249]

The Legacy4J Mod and its modpacks are amazing especially for the Steam Deck and the other handheld PCs

[@Scrafx]

Oh wow I need to figure out how to do this on my steam deck, sounds awesome. First I need to figure out getting Minecraft Java in the first place lol

[@DryPaperHammerBro]

@@Scrafx Run this command in Konsole, accepting all the prompts: 'flatpak install prismlauncher'. Then, to add it, you'll need to click the "Add instance" button, then on "Modrinth" to get the packs from there. When they load, tap on the search box, & put in re-console, it'll be the top pack Then click OK & log in to your Microsoft account

[@MintyHyena]

90% of my playtime on modern minecraft is playing the re console mod,. i love the vibe

[@Prizzim]

Gonna be mine too now wtf this is so wild and so nostalgic

[@laylabranom5494]

Dude im elated you saw my comment to check this out!! Just a heads up - if you go to graphics in the settings and scroll to the bottom to enable "resource assorts" - preset packages of resourcepacks eith a predefined load order and such - if you enable the "ps4 parity" resource assort youll get the classic xbox/ps4 tu46 textures and titlescreen. Great video! Though!!!!

[@laylabranom5494]

You can also go in depth and edit the resourcepacks inside the assorts and turn on the programmer art pack inside of ps4 parity- that gets the classic tu1 feel down to the tee.

[@MonkeFlip2000]

legacy edition was way better than bedrock, especially the ui on bedrock just looks like crappy mobile ui which it is

[@Drunkgg775]

as a pocket player, I agree with you because the legacy edition looks like a java edition. Bedrock is a PC and pocket is a mobile thought i laughed at the bedrock player who wanted to bug 😂 Pocket is better than bedrock. Pocket edition without bugs and I don't get any bugs again Damn Mojang like bedrock and pocket update in the marketplace.

[@angel23444]

​@@Drunkgg775pocket is bedrock 💀 and there is nothing wrong with its ui as it's not only is better than java's by default but also unlike java can be customized (unless you are talking about ore ui which is achievements menu on which I agree that it's bad) you can literally make it have look and layout from java or legacy console edition with one resource pack, and you don't havee to make it yourself since people already done it.

[@randomphantom3976]

My goodness someone please get them to bring this to Bedrock, the crafting menu there is laggy and disorganized and utterly painful to use.

[@angel23444]

just use a resource pack that brings legacy console edition ui thats it

[@Bransbow]

Now I’m just sad. And not nostalgia sad, angry again at Microsoft and Mojang sad. I haven’t played Minecraft nearly as much since the Legacy versions were discontinued.

[@EnglishAaron]

They ruined bedrock too, Java remains the superior version when modded which is incredibly streamlined at this point.

[@angel23444]

​​@@EnglishAaronsadly true, they started turning bedrock into buggier java in 2020 (they did bad changes before these weren't nearly as bad)

[@trioOFmischief]

The worst part is, bedrock used to be pocket edition, which was actually good, then they ripped the code and made windows 10 edition and then it went downhill from there.

[@angel23444]

@@trioOFmischief it only got better before 1.13.0, there was no "downhill" before that, it had all of its exclusive features and even more from legacy console edition (exclusive features is the best part of PE/Bedrock) and got more features from Java and turned it into actual game rather than some crappy mobile port.

[@stevetrail2307]

@@EnglishAaronBedrock is absolute trash-horribly optimized, and no minigames.

[@Nightcaat]

What If Peak Was Still Developed

[@noahm398]

I wish they continued the console edition, because this looks incredible. If they had I’d probably play more often. I wish you could use this mod pack on bedrock.

[@Dr-Random]

10:22 that’s a smooth animation as well, loving this resource pack or mod or whatever it is

[@fares_gamer603]

it's a mod called better F3 btw

[@ZiptoZapto]

This... I need this. I stopped playing minecraft partially because I was getting bored and mostly because of being given playtime limits, but boy did bedrock kill so much enjoyment because of how clunky and slow everything was. But this just brings back the best parts of console. Which was pretty much everything. If I wasn't in the middle of another project, I'd start playing the game with this immediately.

[@Faradite-r1p]

8:30 If you look on the bottom right of the screen, it'll tell you to hit X in order to view descriptions for the advancements.

[@JennyNobody]

I was gifted many moons of membership. Experiencing your members only vids was enough to get me to part with my hard earned $. I mean that.

[@jameshlady]

i just wish they had the old tutorial worlds in the store. man what i would give to get the TU31 tutorial world again...

[@wildbucko]

I vocally shouted YES! When I saw the superflat customisation. While I've been a java player the last 7ish years, I've never touched superflat cause it was too complicated. Also something you didn't mention that I noticed, the speed/sprint while flying in creative. You could also sprint left right and backwards.

[@Prizzim]

No more 3 block superflat worlds !!!

[@Copperkaiju]

As someone who still plays the PS3 version it's comforting to know that this mod exists in case I'm ever forced to switch to PC.

[@bubgamingandvlogs3870]

i still play the xbox 360 version

[@fn-pug5447]

I love this modpack so much. Me and a couple of my friends are actually working on making a let’s play series of it.

[@pucknorris3473]

9:55 this was my favorite tutorial world

[@Marvel-Multiverse-TRSM-xq3hs]

If people have never played this version, they are missing out badly

[@AIR79731]

Привет я из России, и полностью с этим согласен человек который не играл в старый minecraft буквально вообще не играл в minecraft..

[@Marvel-Multiverse-TRSM-xq3hs]

@@AIR79731 Yep, exactly

[@x7scriptzzz172]

Dude this brings back so many memories

[@MagolorRR]

0:18 it honestly just looks cursed seeing all the newer items in the legacy console ui

[@COLOTLdesigns]

agreed

[@snakesareadorable8515]

Seeing those world menus… God. That was so long ago.

[@GamerForGod123]

dude this is sick they even got split screen multiplayer working

[@Shoopa_Real]

8:28 X - Show Description 😮😮😮

[@SomeoneOnlyWeKnow.]

I've been playing around with this mod pack for a while now and I suspected you would cover it at some point. The work people have put into this is crazy!

[@trampolinegamer8296]

8:42 Leaderboard was a feature in the legacy console edition, that could track your personal bests in minigames, and typical stats in regular words and compare them to people on your Xbox friend list

[@Buddyboix]

6:26 L for lee gets removed

[@MasterXeno0]

Bro's not afraid to say what he's thinking. Crazy.

[@trioOFmischief]

19:42 1. Glide 2. Tumble 3. Battle

[@pigeonjoey]

i would also suggest using the golden days texture! it makes everything including new blocks look like programmer art

[@Makinri]

2:40 Controlify:

[@NJWebCrawler]

Honestly L4J's controller support feels better gameplay wise. IIRC pretty much everyone wants the creators to make a standalone for the controller support

[@lpfan4491]

​@@NJWebCrawler Does it? I never really played around with L4J controller support because the mod is so expansive that it is incompatible with the modpack I am working on putting together like 5 times over. I honestly just wish console gamma was a standalone mod btw, it's such a beautiful feature.

[@Makinri]

@@lpfan4491 I played around with it after they commented and I have to say it feels a lot better than Controlify and lambdacontrols or whatever the other one's called.

[@angel23444]

MidnightControls:

[@angel23444]

​​@@lpfan4491legacy4j mod has really good controller support, it feels polished and really enjoyable to play, and controlify has probably the worst support, it's really annoying, it has analog camera movement which makes sensitivity feel weird at any value, and lacks customization, and midnightcontrols is the best one yet (besides legacy4j of course), it's has a lot of customization and stuff, the only thing I dislike about it tho is everything related to cursor, it moves weirdly doesn't have snapping and interpolation, and doesn't have texture (just moves system cursor) so it's still a bit worse than legacy4j

[@biteingcobra363]

Love this mod. Glad to see you covering it Toycat

[@kojinaoftheinvertedeye810]

LCE trailer style? Now it's true! No one can tell me what I can and cannot do!

[@olympegypt_ytbmc]

The TU46 tutorial world (the one in the video) is the same tutorial world that is on Minecraft PS3 Edition Demo. Nostalgia :)

[@aja2005a]

btw, the achievements pop up is from the wii u legacy version (minus the miis)

[@golden_gloo]

From that thumbnail I was expecting some mega tutorial world of the future if all the previous tutorials worlds were combined into one map.

[@fallenlegend9331]

How did you get the other tutorial worlds to show up? For me it just says "PLay tutorial" And its the last one, I want to go back in time

[@ContinuedOak]

Adding legacy 4j with legacy skins mod is perfect combination,

[@thenono48rayan]

Dunno why it doesn't work for me i installed the latest version of these

[@Mark_Jonas]

Wow. I really hope they release a game where you can play any version of Minecraft console in any size world up to 1.14.

[@DryPaperHammerBro]

5:11: IT HAS THE 3D TAIL?!

[@hanouzz_yt]

Something like this would be great on the many gaming handhelds out now

[@frankenjura1212]

i always thought the love garden thing was a graveyard

[@usnbostx2]

I just opened one of my first worlds from 2012 that I had copied over from XBOX 360 to Xbox One. I forgot that the versions automatically update, and there were horses & rabbits and all sorts of things that didn’t exist back then, shocking because I remember it like yesterday.

[@Simeeow]

2:46 somebody tell this man about midnightcontrols.

[@NearQuasar]

I am still mad about the redstone changes from legacy console edition to bedrock

[@mrwafflesplays]

There is actually a way to switch between gamemodes without commands on Java, just hold F3 and then press F4 to switch between them

[@lars-eriklarsson7826]

Pov: The best timeline actually happened

[@cosmicminun59]

I would love to see 4J release a map containing every tutorial world from the legacy console edition

[@sonicjhiq]

I have to watch this in 480p since I did back in the day

[@pepsienjoyer17]

6:23 what controversies?? Edit: thanks for explaining everyone

[@HKIHNDKNSI]

dr disrespecting miners

[@EmSee360]

L for Lee

[@cov_.g9702]

LforLeee was a groomer apparently

[@bullencarker]

He was accused of harassing two women, there were police reports and restraining orders about it and he never denied it and in his return video he just kind of dodged the questions so it seems real

[@bullencarker]

@@cov_.g9702not a groomer, he was accused of harassing women on facebook and in real life.

[@RiverH-z3o]

I would actually really like the ability to fly in survival being half in creative half out like you said being able to fly and build easier but you still have to get your own resources and food

[@MitsuIsSleepy]

Also there are a lot of minor visual and server side details you missed that I'd love to discuss. Or for you to discover somehow!

[@Nightcaat]

1:50 Pride Lib is for drawing pride flags, so one of these mods probably use those somewhere

[@therealno_one]

What do u mean by drawing them? Like on banners or?

[@Nightcaat]

@@therealno_one Sorry, I was referring to the technical term. I think they’re used like emoji

[@therealno_one]

@@Nightcaat ah I see

[@zenvio]

i LOOOVE this mod.

[@Wizard_Worm]

Why is the one on Curseforge different from the one shown in this video? Like there’s something’s missing. Is his like early access to some features. (nevermind I downloaded the wrong one it’s on Modrinth)

[@Prizzim]

Thank you I would have mucked this up too

[@lightingwarr02]

I can’t find send link

[@Cbo0sHuddleston]

I gotta ask, does adding mods work? Cuz playing a hypothetical modded legacy console edition is literally my dream come true

[@floofergaming4377]

i want to see someone take the 4j (og 4j not the mod) style of tutorial world and make a fully modernized tutorial, for the caves and cliffs, village and pillage, and nether updates.

[@Ahsumcrafter]

9:12 you totally missed it. There's a page tooltip below.

[@thsxi]

The console edition should’ve been made into what bedrock is now

[@NKillBruh]

Did they fix crafting repeatedly(with the console crafting UI) when holding A? It used to not work on Re-Console

[@Devlinator61116]

I love how the console edition made the map useful in the Nether and End. The map itself doesn't work but the coords still do.

[@AZOOZ4A]

13:39 what does he mean ? can someone tell me whats the word ?

[@Memessssss]

Bruhh imagine how good it would be though

[@winSonoma]

There's another mod called Legacy4J that looks more closer to the original LCE versions

[@gorilla_gorl]

this is literally that

[@winSonoma]

@@gorilla_gorl There are some differences, like the background being the TU69 tutorial world instead of the trial chambers, the lack of different tutorial worlds throughout the years, and the inability to change controller icons (ie the control tips being locked to only X360 buttons), but yeah, largely the same

[@polarograph]

Re-Console is the official modpack for Legacy4J bruh

[@winSonoma]

@@polarograph Thats the thing, it's a mod PACK. It adds more stuff to an already-existing mod, like update-themed panoramas instead of tutorial world panoramas.

[@polarograph]

@@winSonoma re-console is mostly just optimization mods + other legacy console-related mods (like the legacy skins). re-console is literally much closer to LCE than just regular L4J tell me 5 differences between Legacy4J and Re-Console, i’ll wait

[@BingBingEnterprises]

I’d bet that it would be like Java on console, instead of pocket edition on console

[@CRRUXED]

I wish, It was it's so much fun

[@MrMycotic]

GLFW is a library for OpenGL a Graphics API :)

[@pucknorris3473]

You’re about to go to stamps world ! I still have this one saved on my Xbox 360

[@Anarchy_Chaos]

If it was still continuing development, I wouldn't have a large portion of my 4-5 year old worlds projects, like a wall around the entire world. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to have the new features since 1.14 and on, since I've never played them, but it would change a lot of things.

[@SureenInk]

I wonder where to get this modpack? The "re-consoled" I found on Curseforge is clearly not the same thing. I really wanted to look at some of the old tutorial worlds.

[@NJWebCrawler]

It's called "re-console" on modrinth 👍

[@SureenInk]

@@NJWebCrawler Thanks! I'm excited to mess around with it.

[@lightingwarr02]

@@NJWebCrawlersend link I can’t find it

[@santohyj422]

7:14 Uhh, you don‘t, you can just hold F3 and press F4…

[@flaming_skull]

2:40 multiple controller mods exist

[@noblebuild2550]

enabling classic crafting OR classic menu fixes create mod and create achievements not popping up, plus, controller still works on the original menu in the mod

[@brandonlee7382]

This is incredible! The modders should be hired by mojang

[@k.levirusco3834]

Idk why but it's still jarring when your videos start with anythingnother than "Heoollooo I'm ibxtoycat!"

[@IamJay02]

Console edition ui is so good its insane. Bedrock is a goddamn attrocity.

[@abdimahamoud1507]

You can turn on gamma to make it look more nostalgic make it 100

[@milli-ns]

legacy4j my beloved

[@puglinbrute9264]

the new f3 screen is separate mod called better f3

[@GamerPro400-l7k]

Greg is coming this Christmas of 2024 though. Dragonfly G4 battery life is better than my current Gamming Laptop although mine rocks Ryzen 7 5000 Series astonishing fast with 1 TB. The Battery Upgrade will take it to 8hrs. Though.

[@floofergaming4377]

what did you do to get skin packs and those textures??? im downloading re-console and those just arent there, neither are the tutorial worlds, can you tell me what files you used and where i can find them???

[@marklar3187]

I used an emulator to get my original 10 year old survival seed. Then I transferred it to my Xbox. And now that is my main survival world 😂

[@bullencarker]

6:26 LMAOOO

[@Win_9760]

Did ya know that midnightcontrols mod exists with the default java gui

[@JaysasterGaming]

I hope they can make Re Console Edition for Bedrock Edition too

[@gorilla_gorl]

Closest experience you can get is with "Console Aspects" and "Project 4JD UI".

[@ChaseCoinFi]

I wish it still was lol, it is legendary.

[@mrpringle23]

Hey guys can you still join friends in this edition? Whenever i try to join my friend or he tries to join me its just stuck on a loading screen im playing on ps4

[@Southized]

As much as toycat says he no longer likes console and javer, you can hear how excited he is to share this by the speed of his voice😂

[@mjcc5470]

You missed a crucial part of the Legacy Experience because you didn't increase the gamma

[@PlasJL]

Oh my days I need this bruh

[@SargentDoom]

If toycat doesn't have a reason to move to Java now, this is it.

[@charautreal]

let's ignore all the draw backs, like waiting for all the mods to update, not being able to play on an actual console, leaving his world behind and how heavy Java is lol

[@angel23444]

​@@charautrealwaiting for mods to update is annoying but it's worth it tho, also meanwhile you can always play bedrock, because why choose which edition to play if you can play both of them

[@charautreal]

@angel23444 I play both of them, tho mainly bedrock, I say it because the original comment says "move to Java" like leaving bedrock behind lol And I wouldn't say it is that worth it, sometimes they don't even update at all, like lambdynamiclights

[@Scrafx]

This might be what makes me move to Java

[@angel23444]

@@charautreal I mainly play Java, but prefer Bedrock, so I just use mods and resource packs to make Java as similar to Bedrock as possible, including removed exclusive features as well (for example randomized grass color noise which makes grass look way better especially at distance, this was removed from Bedrock in 1.17.30 for no reason) Thats really annoying when mods don't get updated at all, but in these cases I either search for forks, or try to update it myself, or try to override required game version in fabric dependencies file

[@xgui4-studios]

i remember playing minecraft at school , a cracked version i think my firts version is the 1.4.7 or maybe older

[@DizzleX007]

I had all the birthday skin packs 🎉