IN THIS VIDEO WE COMPARE THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS FOR THE W58 AND R154 TRANSMISSION
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@moisto_o30363 жыл бұрын
Now I know the r154 is angrier than the w58 thank you
@oveidasinclair9824 жыл бұрын
They'll take a different size drive shaft, a W58 can easily handle 300-350 horse power, I would even take it up to 400, but anything after that you would be wise to go with the R154. Dad and I each have a 89 Supra, both with W58's, dad's car had a 1JZ vvti, I have a 7MGTE (use to be an automatic), dad sold his car, I'm keeping mine.
@edbo10 Жыл бұрын
this probably wasn't with the w58s found in the mk3 supras and earlier; 91 sc300s and beyond got w58s with bigger bearings and can actually handle the torque of the 1uz there are some mk3 supra w58s that had a steel sandwich plate, but this is no guarantee that they actually got the bigger (and thus stronger) bearings
@CarlG20035 жыл бұрын
Amigo. Keep the good work I’m learning a lot of the 2jz engines.. I’m looking for a project car in the future and I’m thinking on getting a Lexus is300
@TopSecretProTuning5 жыл бұрын
Great choise papa
@carloscrod_5 жыл бұрын
I get the same 2jz gte on my Lexus. Which transmission would you recommend? I’m only thinking of getting 350-400 max on it. I noticed you said the W58 is smoother shifting but that the pressure plates breaks at 400 hp?
@cesarherrera67075 жыл бұрын
@@TopSecretProTuning amigo aguna de esas tramisiones se le pueden istalar a un motor 3tc que es el 1.8 corrolla
@cesarherrera67075 жыл бұрын
@@TopSecretProTuning agradeceria mucho su ayuda gracias
@Cptlink4204 жыл бұрын
@@carloscrod_ I'm going for r154 on my tt aristo, great choise
@abayomimudada37216 жыл бұрын
Great vid keep the good work flowing
@TopSecretProTuning6 жыл бұрын
Abayomi Mudada thank u
@luisillogaming23993 жыл бұрын
Saludos desde Texas estoy haciendo un mk3 q es 7mge y lo quiero hacer 2jzgte tengo el motor ya visto pero lo que me tiene en pausa es la transmission si cambio la bancasa podré usar la w58 que tiene el carro ya
@fideljciii94215 жыл бұрын
Puedes hacer un vídeo en español
@supern1nja9594 жыл бұрын
Hello! I was wondering if you could messuaure the lenght of the W58 clutch housing for me? Looking to buy a W55 gearbox from a Hilux and fitting it with a 2JZ in my IS200. I know the W55 is one of the wekest gearboxes that fit the 2JZ, but I will only run non-turbo so I think it will be fine. Need the messaurments to know what clutchhousing I will need:
@tomknud2 жыл бұрын
No longer a secret! Also, the R154 is a total PIA to install!
@cesarherrera67075 жыл бұрын
Pregunta compañeros alguna de esas trasmissiones se pueden istalar en un motor 3tc gracias agradeceria algun comentario gracias
@Patak_1jz2 ай бұрын
I can’t hear it good enough, what was the w58 lenght and the r154?
@doomkid026 жыл бұрын
Do the r154 and w58 use the same mount? I plan on doing a 2jz swap in my mk3 7mge supra which has the w58 transmission.
@TopSecretProTuning6 жыл бұрын
as far i understand they do
@petescarport5 жыл бұрын
I have a stock sc300 with the w58. I plan to do a small turbo and drift the car. I planned to put a stage 3 or 4 clutch kit in. Is there any other ways to make it stronger or will I be ok running about 350hp. Thank you for all your knowledge
@Radbmxoldschool80903 жыл бұрын
Soy de España y aquí apenas se conocen esos swaps ...no hay ningún video...cual es la mejor trasmisión? Entra directamente en el coche? O hay que hacer alguna adaptación...mi idea es meterlo en un gs300 ...pero aquí tienen la trasmisión automática..gracias un saludo desde España
@osvaldogonzalez76042 жыл бұрын
En primer lugar la R154 y en segundo lugar la W58. Para picadas es muy común en Puerto Rico usar la TH400 o Powerglide con el 2JZ(Conjunto radical capaz de manejar caballaje superior a 1000HP). Si quieres mantener la configuración manual y superar los 400 caballos R154. Espero que te ayude.
@carlyletom3015 жыл бұрын
So the W58 is what to use if you were building an engine above 400hp?
@TopSecretProTuning5 жыл бұрын
400+ go r154
@ghostofsparta65795 жыл бұрын
Tripot R154 smooth and can handle 700hp stock internals.
@Alientraveler0036 жыл бұрын
That w58 didn't have the steel plate in it . So it's weak . But if it had the steel plate in it. Than 700 to 800 to brake it . Good vid thanks
@pinkflamingodizzle5 жыл бұрын
I bought a '99 W series from a taco for my uz swap and it has the steel plate section in the middle. is that weird? I never saw one like this before.
@davidphillips74735 жыл бұрын
So one with a steel plate in the middle how much hp can it take ??
@ghostofsparta65795 жыл бұрын
If my memory serves me well w58 used in the early 80s for 4 cylinder engines like 22r and 3Y engines 120 hp then it was developed with a stronger internals to hold up in line 6 cylinder thats when the steel plate in the middle was add in the 90s.. bottom line the best you can go abusing it is the range of 400hp you will face problems if you exceed it.. R154 can take 600hp when the developed stronger foged internals R154 tripot can handle 750 hp safly.
@carguy10132 жыл бұрын
Can anyone plz tell me how to identify a steel plate w58?
@hashmitanaran79603 жыл бұрын
Hi I have a W58 in my x70 2.4gle The engine is a 22R and runs fine I noticed that when I engage 1st gear it's jumping first gear what could be the problem pls advice me
@-bkjq672 жыл бұрын
i can put the R154 or W58 in 1uz-fe engine in cressida ?
@sebastianmozo56455 жыл бұрын
Hello greetings from Chile, we will soon receive an automatic toyota mark II shipment ..! then my question is !! what mechanical box is compatible to mount on 1JZ GTE engine? your advice would be of great help, I remain attentive to your comment. CLASSIC MONKEY GARAGE.
@TopSecretProTuning5 жыл бұрын
R154 is compatible but u need a 2jz to r154 bellhousing. Everything can be found on ebay or driftmotion.
@sebastianmozo56455 жыл бұрын
very grateful friend, you have instagram to follow ?? sorry but R154 normally in which cars comes mounted?@@TopSecretProTuning
@TopSecretProTuning5 жыл бұрын
@@sebastianmozo5645 instagram @tsecretgarage
@Supremedude716 жыл бұрын
Hey you are a wealth of knowledge on these mazda pickups, in another video about what your putting in your truck, the axle you said ISUZU rodeo, well got one of those . IT looks like the driveshaft will need shortened , or did you go with a one piece on an extra cab b2200? Haven't got mine quite setup on springs yet center bolt holes are too small need drilling out , minor details
@TopSecretProTuning6 жыл бұрын
trevor sager yes, the driveshaft will need to be shorten out. We did a one piece.
@johansanchez75124 жыл бұрын
los bell housing are the same would the w58 bolt on a 2jz engine?
@elsupremociclon45116 жыл бұрын
VIVVO EN SANO DOMINGO me gustaria saber si es posible enviarme transmision manual toyota supra para ponerla a um toyota cressida.. por favor indicarme cotizacion primero.
@doomkid024 жыл бұрын
I have a w58 in my mk3 supra do you know if the other half of the drice shaft is still usable?
@saadsalem84434 жыл бұрын
can the bell housing swabsable ? many thanks buddy
@saadsalem84434 жыл бұрын
is the clutch plate is sam , like is it fit in bouth ?
@Manuqtix.Manuqtix3 жыл бұрын
Are the center hubs the same?
@Brallan843 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks!
@tacomas96023 жыл бұрын
The AR-5/W154 seems to be my choice in a vehicle but perfect either way.
@alazhar50496 жыл бұрын
Can the W58 gearbox fit to a 1jz engine...i mean plug n play..?
@TopSecretProTuning6 жыл бұрын
You would need a w58 to 2jz bell housing and flywheel
@timelessvickdamone5 жыл бұрын
1jz bell housing 👌🏼
@overbuiltautomotive12995 жыл бұрын
1j 2j same bell@@timelessvickdamone
@doomkid025 жыл бұрын
I hear the w58 is a much weaker transmission compared to the r154. So unless you're on a tight budget and don't plan to hall ass on it i wouldnt recommend it.
@christianmclaurin15105 жыл бұрын
What the best place to go about getting an R154? A link please?
@almorris1713 жыл бұрын
Driftmotion.com can rebuild a R154 or sell a rebuilt one. It's pricey of course.
@socrittylove3 жыл бұрын
Thank you buddy. I actually have one now! I’m going to buy the rebuild kit from drift motion which cost about 750. I appreciate you responding to me.
@dalvincasiano54565 жыл бұрын
La w58 sirve para 2jz de aristo??
@ralphperez8525 жыл бұрын
I have a 1987 Toyota Supra 7mge and I want to put a2jzge what should I do for transmission
@ghostofsparta65795 жыл бұрын
Go for R154 you will be in the safe side even if you wana take things to the next level tuning the engine it can take the abuse.
@edgarherrera60564 жыл бұрын
Antes que nada un gran saludo pera ustedes amigos ocupo ayuda tengo un Corolla 1.8 el motor le pondré trasmisión w58 de Tacoma pero no encuentro el clutch
@noelhernandez75155 жыл бұрын
Buen video!! Tengo un Toyota cressida 85 y tengo pensado montarle un 1jz cual sería el costo estimado de motor y transmision etc?
@tonyfajardo72043 жыл бұрын
Motor y trans swap sale como unos $6000
@aquasmoke8539 Жыл бұрын
Which gearbox do you suggest for 700hp? Keeping it simple would be appreciated, thinking of zf but don’t know
@retardedcheesewheel2921 Жыл бұрын
R154. W58 won't take more than 400hp
@2jzgenat Жыл бұрын
@@retardedcheesewheel2921very true i just blew my w58 with 475torque 450hp. It lasted 3 months on that power. No launches just roll pulls
@davidcalix31992 жыл бұрын
R154 trabaja con 2jz...?
@hariss13644 жыл бұрын
What about the g52 gearbox? Is it strong enough behind a stock turbo 1jz ?
@mariafernandez71483 жыл бұрын
Saludos una w58 de motor 2.7 le sirve a un 2jz?
@abdullaalhammadi96826 жыл бұрын
from were you got the long shaft drive ??
@TopSecretProTuning6 жыл бұрын
Abdulla Alhammadi custom made from advance driveline in orlando
@yasserloveu57725 жыл бұрын
So r 154 is better than w58
@TopSecretProTuning5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Alot better
@evo6swap Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MrTeletubyman1236 жыл бұрын
AL FIN CONO i was looking for a is300 manual swap/upgrade
@Bawkr2 жыл бұрын
Weird my r154 looked more like the w58, 1jz bellhousing. His r154 looks old like most w series. so confusing
@Decimatorace3 жыл бұрын
Hes flipping us off the whole time
@gsgcarreviews2 жыл бұрын
LMAO
@tannerpinney36085 жыл бұрын
Do you know if the spline count on the input shaft is the same? Looking to run an r154 pull to push conversion with w58 clutch and flywheel. Just wanting to verify as i've seen some mixed info online. Cool video as there is not much info on this!
@TopSecretProTuning5 жыл бұрын
Yes, the w58 clucth disk will work with a r154, meaning that the input shafts are the same. The output shaft is larger in the r154
@tannerpinney36085 жыл бұрын
@@TopSecretProTuning Thanks so much for the super quick reply!
@TopSecretProTuning5 жыл бұрын
Flywheels and pressure plates fo change from r154 and w58
@tannerpinney36085 жыл бұрын
@@TopSecretProTuning Yes sir definitely understand, with this kit to run an internal push style release bearing xcessivemanufacturing.com/toyota-t-hrbm-r154.html . It should allow me to run internal release bearing, w58 clutch/flywheel on an r154 trans. Unfortunately there is not much info as i haven't seen many people using this bracket (even when emailing excessive they could not verify w58/r154 spline count). But this makes clutch and flywheel cheaper for me, lets me run internal release bearing, and i dont have to buy all the fork accessories that im missing for the r154, so its kinda a win win.
@TopSecretProTuning5 жыл бұрын
@@tannerpinney3608 awesome. Good luck
@Radbmxoldschool80903 жыл бұрын
Otra cosa si hacéis el video en español..ayudarías mucho a la gente de aquí en España. ..que no hay videos hechos en español...todos los videos están en inglés.. .y no hay mucha información sobre esos proyectos...al igual que los motores 2jz..nadie hace videos en español..
@chronicle_4k3285 жыл бұрын
Buen video 🔥
@vihanganethsara30214 жыл бұрын
Bro,what is the better transmission with 1jz
@mierasai9713 жыл бұрын
the r154
@edgarherrera60564 жыл бұрын
Muy buenos tus videos tengo un Corolla 82 3tc no puedo conseguir el adaptador para la trasmisión w58 ayuda por favor !!!!! Gracias
@jibaritomx4 жыл бұрын
Motor 2rzfe nomas ocupas la bell housing del 2rz hay mucho tacoma todavia y habra mas partes por mucho tiempo...
@edgarherrera60564 жыл бұрын
Gracias compañero por contestar esque mi motor es 1.8 3tc y ocupo el adaptador
@@jibaritomx mi hermano dónde lo puedo conseguir ya mire está página pero no me enseña como comprar el adaptador y gracias por estarme ayudando !!!!!😉
@jibaritomx4 жыл бұрын
@@edgarherrera6056 creo que tienes que suscribirte a los forums y le mandas mensaje privaro a *island chain racing* es quien los fabrica..
@danielluperdi16475 жыл бұрын
La w58 encaja en los motores jz sin adaptar nada?
@missaeljdmramos13225 жыл бұрын
El supra 92 traira w58??
@Eldela5demayo.Culiacan4 жыл бұрын
has uno en español
@twrcrew88523 жыл бұрын
para que falte culo que sobre. thats the only spanish i learned when I spend 1 year with puerto ricans in the desert! hehe
@TopSecretProTuning3 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@abidulhasib56484 жыл бұрын
Can i use a r154 in a 1g-gte Pls reply Thanks😀
@justaguy64153 жыл бұрын
Isint that the stock transmission for the car?
@akaitv66062 жыл бұрын
I know of r154 self destructing on 3rd gear at 600hp
@wanjzs77184 жыл бұрын
Both can fit in 1jz vvti?
@TopSecretProTuning4 жыл бұрын
With JZ bell housings yes
@CallSignCobra6 жыл бұрын
Hey brotha. Great video. Was wondering if there's a way to get in contact with you about some parts I need for a T50 transmission. Maybe an email so I don't blow your comments box up. Thank you.
@TopSecretProTuning6 жыл бұрын
Luis Santiago ulises.te72@gmail.com
@victorhernandez42445 жыл бұрын
no entendi cual es mas fuerte w58 o la r154
@ianllomuel25774 жыл бұрын
r154 es mejor que la w58
@ValladolidArde3 жыл бұрын
are the bell housings interchangable hermano?
@TopSecretProTuning3 жыл бұрын
They are not😪
@ValladolidArde3 жыл бұрын
@@TopSecretProTuning muchas gracias
@Wavywa15 жыл бұрын
How much did you pick up the r154 for? @TopSecretGarage
@TopSecretProTuning5 жыл бұрын
1500
@Wavywa15 жыл бұрын
Was it da Mk3 Turbo tran .....
@Wavywa15 жыл бұрын
@TopSecretGarage
@luisalfredomena64856 жыл бұрын
Ustedes son hispanos, me pareció oírlos hablando español, de donde son..???
@TopSecretProTuning6 жыл бұрын
Vivimos en florida pero somos de puerto rico
@luisalfredomena64856 жыл бұрын
Top Secret Garage Boricuas pues. Que bien. Yo soy de República Dominicana. Aprovecho a preguntarles. Que tanto cuesta un envolvente de una W58 para 2JZ
@ericvaria78074 жыл бұрын
@@luisalfredomena6485 que no escuchaste el broken english!
@andrewvalencia6489 Жыл бұрын
Guess my r154 is a w58
@tomknud2 жыл бұрын
W58 TO pushes while the R154 pulls.
@darreljohannson185 жыл бұрын
Happy Easter
@oscarviera68982 жыл бұрын
Jajaja el malcriau, saludos
@1FAT120y3 жыл бұрын
Ahhhh stop moving the camera around, making me sea-sick