TOYOTA W58 VS R154 TRANSMISSION COMPARISON

IN THIS VIDEO WE COMPARE THE PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS FOR THE W58 AND R154 TRANSMISSION

[@moisto_o3036]

Now I know the r154 is angrier than the w58 thank you

[@oveidasinclair982]

They'll take a different size drive shaft, a W58 can easily handle 300-350 horse power, I would even take it up to 400, but anything after that you would be wise to go with the R154. Dad and I each have a 89 Supra, both with W58's, dad's car had a 1JZ vvti, I have a 7MGTE (use to be an automatic), dad sold his car, I'm keeping mine.

[@edbo10]

this probably wasn't with the w58s found in the mk3 supras and earlier; 91 sc300s and beyond got w58s with bigger bearings and can actually handle the torque of the 1uz there are some mk3 supra w58s that had a steel sandwich plate, but this is no guarantee that they actually got the bigger (and thus stronger) bearings

[@CarlG2003]

Amigo. Keep the good work I’m learning a lot of the 2jz engines.. I’m looking for a project car in the future and I’m thinking on getting a Lexus is300

[@TopSecretProTuning]

Great choise papa

[@carloscrod_]

I get the same 2jz gte on my Lexus. Which transmission would you recommend? I’m only thinking of getting 350-400 max on it. I noticed you said the W58 is smoother shifting but that the pressure plates breaks at 400 hp?

[@cesarherrera6707]

@@TopSecretProTuning amigo aguna de esas tramisiones se le pueden istalar a un motor 3tc que es el 1.8 corrolla

[@cesarherrera6707]

@@TopSecretProTuning agradeceria mucho su ayuda gracias

[@Cptlink420]

@@carloscrod_ I'm going for r154 on my tt aristo, great choise

[@abayomimudada3721]

Great vid keep the good work flowing

[@TopSecretProTuning]

Abayomi Mudada thank u

[@luisillogaming2399]

Saludos desde Texas estoy haciendo un mk3 q es 7mge y lo quiero hacer 2jzgte tengo el motor ya visto pero lo que me tiene en pausa es la transmission si cambio la bancasa podré usar la w58 que tiene el carro ya

[@fideljciii9421]

Puedes hacer un vídeo en español

[@supern1nja959]

Hello! I was wondering if you could messuaure the lenght of the W58 clutch housing for me? Looking to buy a W55 gearbox from a Hilux and fitting it with a 2JZ in my IS200. I know the W55 is one of the wekest gearboxes that fit the 2JZ, but I will only run non-turbo so I think it will be fine. Need the messaurments to know what clutchhousing I will need:

[@tomknud]

No longer a secret! Also, the R154 is a total PIA to install!

[@cesarherrera6707]

Pregunta compañeros alguna de esas trasmissiones se pueden istalar en un motor 3tc gracias agradeceria algun comentario gracias

[@Patak_1jz]

I can’t hear it good enough, what was the w58 lenght and the r154?

[@doomkid02]

Do the r154 and w58 use the same mount? I plan on doing a 2jz swap in my mk3 7mge supra which has the w58 transmission.

[@TopSecretProTuning]

as far i understand they do

[@petescarport]

I have a stock sc300 with the w58. I plan to do a small turbo and drift the car. I planned to put a stage 3 or 4 clutch kit in. Is there any other ways to make it stronger or will I be ok running about 350hp. Thank you for all your knowledge

[@Radbmxoldschool8090]

Soy de España y aquí apenas se conocen esos swaps ...no hay ningún video...cual es la mejor trasmisión? Entra directamente en el coche? O hay que hacer alguna adaptación...mi idea es meterlo en un gs300 ...pero aquí tienen la trasmisión automática..gracias un saludo desde España

[@osvaldogonzalez7604]

En primer lugar la R154 y en segundo lugar la W58. Para picadas es muy común en Puerto Rico usar la TH400 o Powerglide con el 2JZ(Conjunto radical capaz de manejar caballaje superior a 1000HP). Si quieres mantener la configuración manual y superar los 400 caballos R154. Espero que te ayude.

[@carlyletom301]

So the W58 is what to use if you were building an engine above 400hp?

[@TopSecretProTuning]

400+ go r154

[@ghostofsparta6579]

Tripot R154 smooth and can handle 700hp stock internals.

[@Alientraveler003]

That w58 didn't have the steel plate in it . So it's weak . But if it had the steel plate in it. Than 700 to 800 to brake it . Good vid thanks

[@pinkflamingodizzle]

I bought a '99 W series from a taco for my uz swap and it has the steel plate section in the middle. is that weird? I never saw one like this before.

[@davidphillips7473]

So one with a steel plate in the middle how much hp can it take ??

[@ghostofsparta6579]

If my memory serves me well w58 used in the early 80s for 4 cylinder engines like 22r and 3Y engines 120 hp then it was developed with a stronger internals to hold up in line 6 cylinder thats when the steel plate in the middle was add in the 90s.. bottom line the best you can go abusing it is the range of 400hp you will face problems if you exceed it.. R154 can take 600hp when the developed stronger foged internals R154 tripot can handle 750 hp safly.

[@carguy1013]

Can anyone plz tell me how to identify a steel plate w58?

[@hashmitanaran7960]

Hi I have a W58 in my x70 2.4gle The engine is a 22R and runs fine I noticed that when I engage 1st gear it's jumping first gear what could be the problem pls advice me

[@-bkjq67]

i can put the R154 or W58 in 1uz-fe engine in cressida ?

[@sebastianmozo5645]

Hello greetings from Chile, we will soon receive an automatic toyota mark II shipment ..! then my question is !! what mechanical box is compatible to mount on 1JZ GTE engine? your advice would be of great help, I remain attentive to your comment. CLASSIC MONKEY GARAGE.

[@TopSecretProTuning]

R154 is compatible but u need a 2jz to r154 bellhousing. Everything can be found on ebay or driftmotion.

[@sebastianmozo5645]

very grateful friend, you have instagram to follow ?? sorry but R154 normally in which cars comes mounted?@@TopSecretProTuning

[@TopSecretProTuning]

@@sebastianmozo5645 instagram @tsecretgarage

[@Supremedude71]

Hey you are a wealth of knowledge on these mazda pickups, in another video about what your putting in your truck, the axle you said ISUZU rodeo, well got one of those . IT looks like the driveshaft will need shortened , or did you go with a one piece on an extra cab b2200? Haven't got mine quite setup on springs yet center bolt holes are too small need drilling out , minor details

[@TopSecretProTuning]

trevor sager yes, the driveshaft will need to be shorten out. We did a one piece.

[@johansanchez7512]

los bell housing are the same would the w58 bolt on a 2jz engine?

[@elsupremociclon4511]

VIVVO EN SANO DOMINGO me gustaria saber si es posible enviarme transmision manual toyota supra para ponerla a um toyota cressida.. por favor indicarme cotizacion primero.

[@doomkid02]

I have a w58 in my mk3 supra do you know if the other half of the drice shaft is still usable?

[@saadsalem8443]

can the bell housing swabsable ? many thanks buddy

[@saadsalem8443]

is the clutch plate is sam , like is it fit in bouth ?

[@Manuqtix.Manuqtix]

Are the center hubs the same?

[@Brallan84]

Great video! Thanks!

[@tacomas9602]

The AR-5/W154 seems to be my choice in a vehicle but perfect either way.

[@alazhar5049]

Can the W58 gearbox fit to a 1jz engine...i mean plug n play..?

[@TopSecretProTuning]

You would need a w58 to 2jz bell housing and flywheel

[@timelessvickdamone]

1jz bell housing 👌🏼

[@overbuiltautomotive1299]

1j 2j same bell@@timelessvickdamone

[@doomkid02]

I hear the w58 is a much weaker transmission compared to the r154. So unless you're on a tight budget and don't plan to hall ass on it i wouldnt recommend it.

[@christianmclaurin1510]

What the best place to go about getting an R154? A link please?

[@almorris171]

Driftmotion.com can rebuild a R154 or sell a rebuilt one. It's pricey of course.

[@socrittylove]

Thank you buddy. I actually have one now! I’m going to buy the rebuild kit from drift motion which cost about 750. I appreciate you responding to me.

[@dalvincasiano5456]

La w58 sirve para 2jz de aristo??

[@ralphperez852]

I have a 1987 Toyota Supra 7mge and I want to put a2jzge what should I do for transmission

[@ghostofsparta6579]

Go for R154 you will be in the safe side even if you wana take things to the next level tuning the engine it can take the abuse.

[@edgarherrera6056]

Antes que nada un gran saludo pera ustedes amigos ocupo ayuda tengo un Corolla 1.8 el motor le pondré trasmisión w58 de Tacoma pero no encuentro el clutch

[@noelhernandez7515]

Buen video!! Tengo un Toyota cressida 85 y tengo pensado montarle un 1jz cual sería el costo estimado de motor y transmision etc?

[@tonyfajardo7204]

Motor y trans swap sale como unos $6000

[@aquasmoke8539]

Which gearbox do you suggest for 700hp? Keeping it simple would be appreciated, thinking of zf but don’t know

[@retardedcheesewheel2921]

R154. W58 won't take more than 400hp

[@2jzgenat]

​@@retardedcheesewheel2921very true i just blew my w58 with 475torque 450hp. It lasted 3 months on that power. No launches just roll pulls

[@davidcalix3199]

R154 trabaja con 2jz...?

[@hariss1364]

What about the g52 gearbox? Is it strong enough behind a stock turbo 1jz ?

[@mariafernandez7148]

Saludos una w58 de motor 2.7 le sirve a un 2jz?

[@abdullaalhammadi9682]

from were you got the long shaft drive ??

[@TopSecretProTuning]

Abdulla Alhammadi custom made from advance driveline in orlando

[@yasserloveu5772]

So r 154 is better than w58

[@TopSecretProTuning]

Yes. Alot better

[@evo6swap]

Thank you

[@MrTeletubyman123]

AL FIN CONO i was looking for a is300 manual swap/upgrade

[@Bawkr]

Weird my r154 looked more like the w58, 1jz bellhousing. His r154 looks old like most w series. so confusing

[@Decimatorace]

Hes flipping us off the whole time

[@gsgcarreviews]

LMAO

[@tannerpinney3608]

Do you know if the spline count on the input shaft is the same? Looking to run an r154 pull to push conversion with w58 clutch and flywheel. Just wanting to verify as i've seen some mixed info online. Cool video as there is not much info on this!

[@TopSecretProTuning]

Yes, the w58 clucth disk will work with a r154, meaning that the input shafts are the same. The output shaft is larger in the r154

[@tannerpinney3608]

@@TopSecretProTuning Thanks so much for the super quick reply!

[@TopSecretProTuning]

Flywheels and pressure plates fo change from r154 and w58

[@tannerpinney3608]

@@TopSecretProTuning Yes sir definitely understand, with this kit to run an internal push style release bearing xcessivemanufacturing.com/toyota-t-hrbm-r154.html . It should allow me to run internal release bearing, w58 clutch/flywheel on an r154 trans. Unfortunately there is not much info as i haven't seen many people using this bracket (even when emailing excessive they could not verify w58/r154 spline count). But this makes clutch and flywheel cheaper for me, lets me run internal release bearing, and i dont have to buy all the fork accessories that im missing for the r154, so its kinda a win win.

[@TopSecretProTuning]

@@tannerpinney3608 awesome. Good luck

[@Radbmxoldschool8090]

Otra cosa si hacéis el video en español..ayudarías mucho a la gente de aquí en España. ..que no hay videos hechos en español...todos los videos están en inglés.. .y no hay mucha información sobre esos proyectos...al igual que los motores 2jz..nadie hace videos en español..

[@chronicle_4k328]

Buen video 🔥

[@vihanganethsara3021]

Bro,what is the better transmission with 1jz

[@mierasai971]

the r154

[@edgarherrera6056]

Muy buenos tus videos tengo un Corolla 82 3tc no puedo conseguir el adaptador para la trasmisión w58 ayuda por favor !!!!! Gracias

[@jibaritomx]

Motor 2rzfe nomas ocupas la bell housing del 2rz hay mucho tacoma todavia y habra mas partes por mucho tiempo...

[@edgarherrera6056]

Gracias compañero por contestar esque mi motor es 1.8 3tc y ocupo el adaptador

[@jibaritomx]

@@edgarherrera6056 www.3tcgarage.com/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=1137

[@edgarherrera6056]

@@jibaritomx mi hermano dónde lo puedo conseguir ya mire está página pero no me enseña como comprar el adaptador y gracias por estarme ayudando !!!!!😉

[@jibaritomx]

@@edgarherrera6056 creo que tienes que suscribirte a los forums y le mandas mensaje privaro a *island chain racing* es quien los fabrica..

[@danielluperdi1647]

La w58 encaja en los motores jz sin adaptar nada?

[@missaeljdmramos1322]

El supra 92 traira w58??

[@Eldela5demayo.Culiacan]

has uno en español

[@twrcrew8852]

para que falte culo que sobre. thats the only spanish i learned when I spend 1 year with puerto ricans in the desert! hehe

[@TopSecretProTuning]

😂😂😂😂

[@abidulhasib5648]

Can i use a r154 in a 1g-gte Pls reply Thanks😀

[@justaguy6415]

Isint that the stock transmission for the car?

[@akaitv6606]

I know of r154 self destructing on 3rd gear at 600hp

[@wanjzs7718]

Both can fit in 1jz vvti?

[@TopSecretProTuning]

With JZ bell housings yes

[@CallSignCobra]

Hey brotha. Great video. Was wondering if there's a way to get in contact with you about some parts I need for a T50 transmission. Maybe an email so I don't blow your comments box up. Thank you.

[@TopSecretProTuning]

Luis Santiago [e-mail]

[@victorhernandez4244]

no entendi cual es mas fuerte w58 o la r154

[@ianllomuel2577]

r154 es mejor que la w58

[@ValladolidArde]

are the bell housings interchangable hermano?

[@TopSecretProTuning]

They are not😪

[@ValladolidArde]

@@TopSecretProTuning muchas gracias

[@Wavywa1]

How much did you pick up the r154 for? @TopSecretGarage

[@TopSecretProTuning]

1500

[@Wavywa1]

Was it da Mk3 Turbo tran .....

[@Wavywa1]

@TopSecretGarage

[@luisalfredomena6485]

Ustedes son hispanos, me pareció oírlos hablando español, de donde son..???

[@TopSecretProTuning]

Vivimos en florida pero somos de puerto rico

[@luisalfredomena6485]

Top Secret Garage Boricuas pues. Que bien. Yo soy de República Dominicana. Aprovecho a preguntarles. Que tanto cuesta un envolvente de una W58 para 2JZ

[@ericvaria7807]

@@luisalfredomena6485 que no escuchaste el broken english!

[@andrewvalencia6489]

Guess my r154 is a w58

[@tomknud]

W58 TO pushes while the R154 pulls.

[@darreljohannson18]

Happy Easter

[@oscarviera6898]

Jajaja el malcriau, saludos

[@1FAT120y]

Ahhhh stop moving the camera around, making me sea-sick

[@offshore_salty_gear3377]

Este loco es de Hialeah fl lol

[@MrTruthAddict]

QUE? TUYO HUEY! lol