TR HAMZA TALKS ON *CHRIS HARRIS EXPOSING MR JWW* - OG CLIPS

[@brettv6982]

Chris Harris makes a perfectly valid point why he dislikes “influencers” that “review” new cars. 9 out of 10 of the can’t peddle a car to save their life yet blow smoke up the asses of manufactures and models of cars that are producing things that aren’t that great or have issues which ultimately leads to said companies producing more shit and more of what real drivers don’t want. All for ratings of their YT channels. Chris Harris isn’t an influencer in that respect. He stays impartial no matter what the car no matter how glitsy or expensive. Hence the reason some manufacturers have fell out with him from time to time. Shmee is a typical example of an “influencer” that fucking wets himself at anything he drives which proves Harris’ point. Not every car is great.

[@zerocool5238]

Supercar Blonde is the worst of those influencers with JWW not far behind.

[@TheoFennel]

Spot on.

[@sugarsaint]

Shmee moved a GT4 on in next to no time because it just didn't do anything for him A GT4 Saying he doesn't have an opinion is nonsense - he doesn't do Lambo in the main he's all for Mercedes and McLaren if you look beyond your glossed over opinion he's actually opinionated but just a nice guy who lets his wallet do his talking. Also he's by n large an owner reviewer - Harris forms opinions over night on a track & b road - two different things entirely. Why would Shmee be cursing out his 675LT when he's been prepared to run it for 4 years ????

[@crossphaded]

Chris keeps it real. Let's not forget Ferrari once blacklisted Mr. Harris from reviewing their cars because he stuck by his guns and gave honest, objective opinions about Ferraris at the time. What I hate about cartubers is they're fake as hell. It's all clickbait, buying the latest and greatest, slapping in the 1000th wrap in a new color, etc just to stack the view count. That whole song and dance is getting tired. 💯

[@superfast30]

@@zerocool5238 Agreed. She's absolutely clueless about cars! Just rhymes off whatever spec sheet is available!

[@Jacked153]

Hamza speaks pure sense. This dude is no mug

[@SuperConor11]

The problem with what mr Jww did was he’s used to dealing with massive brands with massive budgets, so 25k isn’t much to them and he’s tried to come into the modified scene with the same attitude and it went badly.

[@lumaprince8309]

Another problem is that Chris has also lost his touch,the reality is we don't tell know what went down chances are the story is the other way round in terms of who contacted who 1st.

[@TheMunch97]

@@lumaprince8309 Why would Litchfield go to JWW first? Litchfield are one of the most well known tuners in the UK, they dont need advertisement from a you tube channel where majority of the viewers are 12 years old

[@lumaprince8309]

@@TheMunch97 I know they've been in the business for some time now and that's a fair point but see when it comes to business there's no such thing as no need for advertisement, what I'm trying to iterate here is that Litch could've have gone to JWW and so could JWW as he's accused. The same way you believe Chris is the same way others will believe otherwise.

[@chrisjohnhyman]

@@lumaprince8309 except Ian Litchfield has come out with the true story and even has it recorded. All JWW has said is some bullshit wordsmith post on Instagram blaming someone else (his marketing team) and covering his own arse.

[@chrisjohnhyman]

@Simon Robinson Completely agree.

[@bugattisteve]

Chris never named jww just said an influencer. The internet did the rest

[@L_J_D23]

Shmee’s manager did

[@tonyosullivan2382]

To be fair Chris Harris never mentioned that fellas name. Loving the padcasts 🤙

[@Danny-oq1kz]

Just shows mr Jww is guilty lol

[@garycochrane8423]

Thats correct Tony, Chris Harris did not name JWW, from what i read it was a manager of Shmee 150 who named JWW

[@Scott555ish]

Correct. Schmee's team outed JWW

[@Monki101]

Chris shouldn’t have tweeted this in the first place. Firstly he knows mr JWW personally so could have reached out to him in confidence. Secondly it seems his statement is misleading, I don’t believe mr JWWs agents asked for all of what Chris stated. I definitely interpret this as being motivated by bitterness

[@tonyosullivan2382]

@@Monki101 I would suggest listening to the collecting cars podcast where Ian Lichfield himself discussed what happened with Chris.

[@roadmantop3769]

Chris Harris just turned the tables and got Lichfield triple clout for free

[@danbourne11]

Because he likes and respects them as a brand. Probably doesn’t want to see them turned over, or alternatively, it effects his word and working with them being banded in the same group as jww, which isn’t good for anyone. CH obvs doesn’t need the money, his name is out there’s, but he keeps using litchfield to tune his cars along with previously borrowing them for vids, obvs has a good relationship with them.

[@samcourt6228]

@@danbourne11 I think he’s good mates with Iain Litchfield. Iain told him about the ‘offer’.

[@martinofleeds]

@@samcourt6228 it looks like that.

[@BH-tf5zz]

Jamie “2+2 is 4 minus 1 that’s 3, quick maths.” 😂

[@theessexdon]

Stopped watching JWW a few months ago, unrealistic dreams - hard work pays off, but the brands being promoted well out of reach. HAMZA JAMIE - stay humble and keep up the great content 🙏

[@TRHamza]

Jamie when is the whiteboard arriving? 😂 #Manycalculations

[@OG_podcast]

😂 quick maths 🥴

[@slbhp]

And the electric laser pointer 😂🤣✌️

[@adamtaylor5677]

But did he actually ask for 25k? Is there hard proof off this

[@rossthompson1078]

Looks like I’ve been under a rock 😂

[@activetvboxing5432]

@@slbhp 89n9n99n9n999n9n9

[@rajpurewal9693]

Enjoyed this podcast, should get Calvins Car Diary on one day, love his channel 🔥

[@TBATTIECYCLING]

💯

[@adamcarter382]

Tr hamza seem one of the most down to earth men on KZbin. Is he sponsored by North face cause if he isn't he should be

[@pauln0371]

Chris Harris started as a Trainee Car Journo back in the 90s. He's served his time and done his dues. The Autocar Videos came much later in his career..

[@Ariskot007]

The hosts here are probably too young to remember or care. Harris is the OG, ghost from the paper time when testing cars was a real craft and you would need to prove yourself first to get any lines in the magazine. He was also a pioneer of digital content with the long forgotten Drivers Republic channel. When somebody like him is able to put so called "influencer" leech in his place without even naming him, you know that the world is not lost yet.

[@pauln0371]

@@Ariskot007 couldn't agree more fella👍👍

[@3y3sho7]

TR is chill & smart, nice to see this

[@P4nts68]

There’s only going to be about 2000 Yaris GR’s coming to the UK during its model run. The Litchfield kit is approx £2400, so Litchfield would have to sell 10-11 kits to break even if they paid the influencer £25k and more like 15-20 kits if they’re paying him a cut from each one sold

[@Invis_Space]

@3:24 playing devils advocate, you’re looking at the numbers wrong. How many Yaris GR’s are being produced? How many will be modified? And how many will owners will choose that brand for parts? Then the last stat is how many would have watched JWW? The number must be incredibly low. Surely? Feels like greed and worst still exploitation.

[@mijbob7679]

A very well organised interview, the questions and topics they covered was great. Hamza seems a very humble and down to earth dude. Always watch his vids. OG is the man, awsome guy, respect 😎

[@BenchRacerRC]

HKS coilovers for the GR Yaris are £2400. Work backwards to figure out how many kits Litchfield would need to sell to just break even on the influencer £25k deal alone, never mind the 10% or actually developing the kit. every GR Yaris owner would need to buy 3 sets each to over his offer. Mr JWW is fucking nuts. Car people know who Litchfield are from the GTR and BMW stuff, they don't need to advertise.

[@william_SMMA]

Apple still runs adverts despite every big celebrity and athlete promoting their products the statement "they don't need to advertise" is definitely top 3 for dumbest I've seen in 2022

[@alanwayte432]

Litchfield are fantastic company, I feel Mr JWW needs to have words with his business team he was either badly advised , Chris Harris did not mention his name...it was 150 guys manager ... unfortunately JWW has come out of this badly, the point made about low volume Yaris is key point ..

[@max.bs6]

Loving the pod , gotta say the audio sounds great

[@callumfraser1654]

Really enjoying these videos lately man, good job👌

[@thomascrossland2139]

Another sick video can’t wait for the next one 🔥

[@TRWWudan33]

Jamie this content is honestly amazing mate! You should be proud!!

[@Freshiemaster]

I think you're describing the problem with social media platforms. There needs to be a value proposition for the end user. That used to be honest journalism and unfortunately now people just hype any product they get paid to. But that's the platforms fault, not KZbinrs. It's designed to function in this way.

[@cvrpaddycvr]

Bright and early! Perfect start to the day

[@g19anson]

I think the point is there isn’t that many GR owners in the 600k followers...

[@timonbotha476]

Plus they are all on finance and cant be modded

[@Bill_Wennett]

I am glad Chris brought this to light. Influencers need to be more transparent when they’ve been paid big. Otherwise it stops being about the best parts/service and more about whoever paid them the most.

[@GassGar]

I didn't even know this channel existed until now lol my bad. Definitely sub. Nice to see one of 2 of my favourite youtubers. Would love to see more collab. Above all keep up the good work and just be real as always 👊🏾

[@Bigchickendaddy]

It’s not just cars, you, you guys are business minded. It’s great listening to you talk about it

[@B15SDMDESIGNS]

Sound is way too low Jamie!

[@Ych2007]

Quick maths was hilarious 😂

[@lukazupie7220]

9:00 liftchield does other cars too so it doesn’t matter what the toyota market size is

[@lukazupie7220]

And without understanding that your whole debate is totally pointless:) no offence i love u both!:)

[@smithy423]

Guys the gr will sell way less than 1000 cars in UK. 5% modify cars, let's say they all modify. The profit would be way less than 25k. Chris never named him but called out what his team did, good on him. Chris does not dislike influencers he actually said he appreciated the fact you guys attract the young team into cars.

[@stephenr6427]

Watch the late brake show where Johnny interviews Chris Harris he is a sound bloke really nic bloke love some of these og videos respect to Jamie

[@latourtjes]

why is the sound of the music at the end way louder than the convo itself?

[@POVGOD]

Just found this channel, I rate the chilled vibes

[@vinaychauhan7936]

CH was right to tweet. Highlighting that you can’t expect an unbiased review from numpty influencers.

[@seanbyrne8767]

UK will end up with about 1700 GR's. A very small number of those who brought one will ever consider fitting a upgraded Lichfield suspension kit. It's also not like Lichfield aren't known. They don't need a 600k you tuber to help sell a product and then pay 25k and a some change out of every sale for the privilege. They could let Mr Harris borrow a yaris for a week for free and all it takes is a post from him saying how good Lichfields suspension was and that would have more of an impact of the sales of the very few units they will eventually sell.

[@rowanlewisuk]

Enjoyed this, 15 minutes went by so quick

[@md8703-t5d]

Becoming a huge fan of this Podcast👍

[@John_cupra290]

Loving the new podcasts 👍cool studio, nice equipment,awesome guests.keep em coming👍

[@koistam]

Anyone doing marketing knows your only expecting to get 3-7% sales from your ad. Everyone is stuck on the 25k. If he only asked for 25k then they either take it or leave it. Mr JWW supposedly wanted 25k + free parts & labour install + percentage of future sales. If that’s not greedy I don’t know what is! That’s means Mr. JWW was really asking for 35-40k up front plus residuals and on such a small market.

[@juniorhunter7436]

Issue is Mr JWW didn't ask for this deal as stated by him. Also there is sooo many crazy deals that happen in world. But it all does not get exposed, all Litchfield need to say is no and end off. Chris just ousted peeps business to the world and worse is he never said who. So what was the point of saying anything.

[@Russy76]

If Chris never said it was Mr. JWW, how does everybody know it was him??

[@koistam]

@@Russy76 Mr JWW actually addressed it and said it was people who represent him.

[@Russy76]

@@koistam you missed my point. How did everyone find out that it was JWW or his people? I watched the podcast that Chris did and he never mentions JWW by name. Secondly, if someone is “representing” you, you’ve given them the authority to go out and secure deals for you, so in a case like this he may not have asked for this himself but someone acting on his behalf (seemingly with his blessing) did. Seems shameful.

[@koistam]

@@Russy76 there are only a hand full of UK KZbinrs and the rest of them put out statements on their social saying it wasn’t them. Actually you missed the point, which is, that it doesn’t matter how he got exposed. That’s irrelevant. Especially since he tried to clean it up after the fact.

[@youtubed9695]

I realised this long ago! I don't watch shmee, jww or super car blondie because they are crap reviews I much prefer a honest review im too much of a free thinker to be fooled by influences however too many people out there are 🐑 and just don't understand what's really happening.. smoke and mirrors

[@-spudman2.054]

I like shmee tbh, but I have no idea why people like supercar blondie have such a massive following

[@youtubed9695]

@@-spudman2.054 Big tech can influence people by increasing certain channels popularity.. everything is political unfortunately

[@mattwilliams6382]

Rich kids showing off. There's no way they make enough money out of you tube to pay for the cars they drive.

[@lprc7196]

Jamie you are a natural presenter. Chris Harris himself needs to get on this. Time to get a model Yaris on my RC channel, we ain’t gunna get no big names lol

[@ilmostro749]

If it was Mr JWW and he has 600K subs - I bet 590K of those don’t have driving licenses cause they are 12.

[@alanwayte432]

Nonsense

[@jshawmedia9266]

MrJWW and yianni (can’t spell his name) did a podcast on a app called stereo! That’s explains everything

[@wusaf250]

Who thinks Ricky should be next?👌😊

[@spookyreaper1702]

Mans like Jamie and hamza out here spittin facts

[@racecrashrepeat]

TR Hamza...Best hair on youtube lol

[@bellathecat8832]

Perfect video to listen to whilst getting ready for work 🙂

[@strikeeaglemodels1588]

Used to follow Chris Harris back in the day and spoke to him via messages six years ago and now he’s on Top Gear 🤯 💨

[@SChapps]

If you’re taking 25k from raidshadowlegends or something, cool. Maybe his channel is capable of getting figures like that from some companies. But it’s the fact that it’s a small well respected British company, and the market for modifying a GR Yaris isn’t very big. Also, they approached Litchfield first, not the other way around. So it was all incredibly misjudged. I used to watch all of JWW’s videos and I’ve met him at Goodwood and he seems a nice guy, so hopefully this can all just get cleared up. He’s actually going live tonight talking about it with yiannimize

[@stainlesssteelrat2821]

1700 GRs slated for the UK .. If lucky 10pc will look at modifying their suspension and even less will use Litchfied ..25k plus a free suspension kit is blatant piss taking

[@jackmalpass6831]

If Litchfield would of contacted them then it would be fair to ask ( maybe not 25k ) Issue is JWW contacting Litchfield for free suspension... + 25k + commission? It’s the complete wrong way round when JWW’s guy actually contacted Litchfield not the other way round

[@thedon9391]

Two dons talking here. Ratings to you both

[@TBATTIECYCLING]

Quick math was a madness there. I think Litchfield sold 25,000 suspension kits for GR Yaris

[@BrendanEvan]

Was wondering what the backstory was on Harris’s Instagram post. Great discussion guys.

[@sparkskie]

What?!.... We paid the £25 grand- Hilarious 🤣🤣

[@daysofgrace2934]

If you watch the podcast, it wasn't the fact that he (Mr. JWW) approached Litchfield but the manner and tone of the sales-pitch that got their back-up. They felt it was unprofessional and disrespectful.

[@dankrafted]

if you havent already watch the interview with Jonny Smith on The Late Brake show. it gives a very decent insight into the type of bloke Chris Harris is. there is a big market out there for influences to do marketing and things (i work in advertising and marketing) but there are right ways to do it, and there is a skill to managing the PR etc

[@AlexHoldroyd]

The key point is that they approached Litchfield. Litchfield didn't ask for their 'PR'. So even if there was a financial win out of it no one asked them which is why it was such a ridiculous 'offer'.

[@lloydeboy5704]

Loving this so far. Do you still have a normal job Jamie?

[@slats1987]

Trying it on with the mega companies, fair enough. Small independents like Litchfield, no

[@TrustMeIKnowEverything]

25k isn't as crazy as you think if it brings hundreds of new people to Litchfield who are a small company and won't have a huge customer base

[@mrstanhope1516]

Hamza is a down to earth guy with cars most people could afford or finance. Mr JWW seems to live in a total fantasy world driving around in supercars. Didn’t even have the balls to hold his hands up afterwards and apologise for his greedy demands.

[@kenrossaukrsa]

If they sell only 6 suspensions at 1500 each and the profit margin is 20% including overheads , that’s 1800£ profit as about only 6 Yaris owners might do a suspension upgrade , it’s very far from 25k... only 60 Yaris Gr were available to sell this year ...

[@slbhp]

Quick maths lol brilliant content ✌️👍

[@95lal]

The guy was dreaming it’s a limited run car and the people possibly choosing the suspension upgrade are so limited

[@jamesg1769]

They're making 25,000 of them

[@samcourt6228]

@@jamesg1769 but how many will make it to the UK and how many of those owners will want to modify a brand new car, invalidating the warranty etc. It’s still, a fairly niche market.

[@leweee]

@@jamesg1769 1700 cars in the UK, it doesn’t make any financial sense for Litchfield

[@ahmetsokullu1866]

Who is not in revenue generating? We all get paid for doing something.

[@donalmoylan3562]

Mr JWW done the right thing these brands are making money off youtubers Good on ye James

[@WestfieldFreshAir]

Issue is there is too much paid promotion that is not declared to the audience.

[@nicealloys]

Litchfield ignores his old Subaru Customers it seems,was more than Happy to Deal with them when he was supplying the T20 and T25 I heard before Allegedlly

[@TyronePinnoy]

thinks the point missed is that ... its not just sales of that particular car and that kit ...

[@richardsedorski1206]

Thought the suspension cost £2.500. ???

[@k45h77]

Your voice is made for podcast proper radio presenter voice. 👍

[@lukazupie7220]

local tv station i know has FAR less viewers than JWW and they still charge ~5000£ for 30s spot.

[@Adz_Win]

Can i come on your podcast and give u a maths lesson 🤪🤣 u guys smashed it..

[@andrew1979ish]

Does that not need 200 people to buy the Yaris gr first

[@GeorgeAusters]

I don't think £25k for a lifetime advertisement on a 600k follower channel is a lot tbh... Some companies spend that every month in facebook ads

[@napalmhotdog4365]

It is when you absolutely don’t need his help

[@jason21jburg]

Chris has to remember how he came up

[@billasohyeah]

try to getchris harris on board and talk about the subject! thatd be sick

[@richardbentley1202]

Influencer or motoring journalist? - no contest for my attention.

[@vanishingpoint808]

66.6m people in the UK. 750 Yaris GR's coming to the UK. 70K is immaterial with those numbers! Aside from that, anyone demanding money to review stuff is totally biased, so I would immediately discount their view.

[@stainlesssteelrat2821]

Litchfield are an established tuning shop .. they really don't need some muppet from KZbin to boost their business ... I saw the podcast with CH and Litch and they were rightly astounded by the muppets brass neck asking for 25k and a cut of profits on future sales of a suspension kit that litch might sell 30-100 units of seeing as there are only 1700 GRs slated for the UK . JWW really needs to look in the mirror and assess what he actually brings to the tuner scene because Litchfield has done more for the scene than most people walking

[@moddrawsltd.6002]

Regardless of who or what was said about any deal or partnership, it shouldn’t of been put out there for everyone’s knowledge, if either party didn’t agree then that’s it. It’s just business. For Harris to then spew it like a teenage girl says more about him than it does JWW.

[@thecarguychannel]

Like casting couch

[@pintsandcars]

Mate the way you talking on this makes me think you playing those Mr JWW games 😅

[@LJRoss-zv8hw]

In a capitalistic system, charge whatever you can get.

[@matthewcurtis3759]

People who buy aftermarket suspension kits aren’t watching JWW for product info. They’re browsing forums and looking at actual data, not hype. JWW’s product might be worth $30k, but I think he was pushing into the wrong market. That’s why Harris and Litchfield responded so negatively so quickly. The pitch was out of its depth.

[@alternativeperception6949]

I most definitely have been under a rock because I have ZERO idea who Chris Harris & JWW are . Im very surprised £25k was the fee asked for though. Another youtuber I watch apparently wanted $16k Canadian for a review recently. I must underestimate the power of advertising and its expense

[@Carljack80]

Two top guys. Thank you 👍🏼

[@mankytoenail1625]

Jamie my favourite youtuber ❤

[@hadleyb220]

According to how many left there are less there 100 registered gr yaris's on the road...

[@Razmatazuk]

Exactly. If they had done the deal, Litchfield *may* have sold 1 or 2 kits if they were lucky. 25k is a joke.

[@DM-MayBee]

You need to "cut to the chase" much quicker and make your point far stronger ...... trying to help. Also, totally agree that MRJWW is totally out of order on this. He will have briefed his promotions team !!!!!!!!!!

[@glanzbo]

Here for the maths lesson😂

[@stephenpeacock2627]

Yaris gr is selling like hot cakes in uk. Almost 14 month waiting list now.

[@GeorgeAusters]

I'm guessing the video wasn't just going to be to advertise the company for that particular car, but for all car services too

[@gumpy4960]

I’ll never understand why people listen to views and opinions of people like Jww or any others youtubers when it comes to cars. Most of them can’t drive very well, have little to no mechanical knowledge and will never really give an honest opinion on a car anyway. Best way is to listen to people like Chris Harris but also if you are actually interested in buying a car, go out and drive it yourself and gain your own opinion on it. Who cares if other people don’t like it, you might drive it and love it and that’s all that matters.

[@stuartsmith5308]

maybe the maths can be. How many of JWW subscribers own a Gr Yaris divided by how many would mod their cars. Divided by how many would now go and buy a Litchfield suspension pack for 2400 or 2900 pounds. I guess, less than 30 of his subscribers have a GR. And, maybe 10-15 want to mod the suspension. And they already know all about the GR uk tuning companies. 15 mods x 3k = 45k, for 25k video + 3k suspension = 28k. 45k-28k = 17k bonus. Litchfield could of made an extra 17k from that deal max

[@daysofgrace2934]

Content has to be paid for, that's why magazines and newspapers are dying out because it's (advertising) has moved online. Maybe Facebook, KZbin need to pay the content creators like yourselves money for the content, a novel thought eh...A fixed amount of money for each minute a user watches. The fixed amount can vary by tiers Platinum, Gold, Silver etc. The tiers breakdown the total views i.e. 1 million views would be platinum etc...

[@user-1500HP]

Hamza is a cool guy. A lot of these KZbinrs just taking the pi$$ out of enthusiasts by pretending to be enthusiasts by the sounds of it.

[@guyhefford]

You all need to listen to the collecting cars podcast with Ian Litchfield to hear the facts. 1 thing he stated is that he's unlikely to make £25k on all the kits that he sells hence why this is so absolutely outrageous!

[@driftmonkey3646]

No need, Hamza obviously watched it and is spouting it back out

[@guyhefford]

@@driftmonkey3646 I'd debate that based on this video