TRANSFORM your take-off's and landing's

A review of the TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals - do they justify $600?
Thurstmaster TPR Pendular Rudder Pedals
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0:00 Intro
0:46 What rudder pedals do
1:15 What problem are these solving?
2:15 Overview of the pedals
3:21 Pedal performance & configurability
5:29 Are they worth the cost?
6:57 Who are these for?
7:46 Conclusion & score
8:32 Outro
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[@sasquatchycowboy5585]

I have these, and I can honestly say that for helicopters in DCS thay are absolutely awesome. The amount of fine control that they afford cannot be overstated.

[@luizvasco77]

Hello friend. I bought one of these and I can't get the pedal set up to fly the Huey, it keeps spinning non-stop and falls off. Can you help me?

[@AVIATIONANDTECHNOLOGY]

Boy just got em what a difference they make for the AH64 apache. Massive difference in hover ability and those fine precise yaw inputs.

[@RanmaSyaoranSaotome]

This was an excellent review and the cinematography was wonderfully lit. Thank you Tao!

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the feedback

[@AdarColussi]

I have these for about 3 years now, and I can't imagine using anything else. I want to point out that you REALLY feel the difference in Helicopters, where you use the pedals constantly. The adjustability and smoothness just makes it feel like real pedals on a helicopter. -they do slip a bit if you have smooth tile flooring (no carpet), the anti slip pads wore off after about a year for me I added a wood cutting board between the pedals and the wall so they don't move at all. you can also screw them down.

[@CristianCalhoun]

You solved my dilemma again. THANK YOU! I go with this one. I can't handle bad quality. I rather save longer a little bit. THANKS a LOT!

[@alexandrepapadopoulos2746]

What an amazing video ! Very clear and well filmed ;)

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the feedback.

[@goalski134]

i finally took the leap and bought these a little while ago. similar to other commenters, i had no muscle memory and it was quite a challenge. after a couple of weeks, i was stunned at how much of a better pilot they made me. they’re truly incredible. i just hope they last a long time!

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

Totally my experience as well and my friends who fly in the sim have bought these too. They seem pretty solid to me, I’m confident they will last.

[@ericlawrence9729]

Great video, very informative, keep up the great work. God Bless.

[@HDEFMAN1]

Excellent overview. You make a very convincing argument for purchasing these rudder pedals. I would rather save up and get these than buy a cheaper set and then find out they don't really work that well. Better to just buy the T.P.R.'s in the first place.

[@aquamich129]

Thank you, this is a great video! a bit short though as I would have love to see you fly in DCS, Elite Dangerous and MSFS to compare the use of the rudder pedal. Now, you video, montage, editing etc.. is absolutely sarp and I am looking forwar dto watch your test of their yoke! btw, the TPR is very expensive and I wish i have bought in 2020 before the pandemic where it was below 500$

[@merkabah2]

Excellent video thank you for your advice and content sir

[@seattime4075]

Totally agree, I had the Thustmaster cheaper rudder pedals and they were just rubbish and I always struggle to keep the center line. Did not have the spare dollars to buy the TPR, so decided to build my own based on the TPR design and wow what a difference. Certainly worth it, if you are a bit more serious in using your flight sim.

[@slicker55]

Enjoyed your review ... very helpful, nice and clear, covered everything I wanted to know. I've been checking prices and availability in the UK and currently the best price refers to Thrustmaster TPR 'Worldwide Version'... Whilst these appear to be the same product as others offered at significantly higher prices, it would be nice to know if there are any differences before buying them. Just wondered if you or any of your viewers can shed any light on this please?

[@VRFlightSimGuy]

Great review

[@paulthurston2883]

I finally have these pedals .... Just awesome.

[@velamenradicum]

add the cubesim damper-mod-kit to the TPR's and they're perfect. Especially for flying chopper when the springs are removed. You get Anti-Torque pedals. With the springs installed, you get a smooth centering mechanism. It's a shame that TM was not able to integrate this on their own!

[@homomorphic]

Another good review, but you did fail to mention the most important reasons for having pedals of this quality and that is crosswind landings and forward slipping. These pedals make it totally realistic (I have my PPL) and these were actually my first pedals (I did the twisty thing on a Hotas until I could justify these as I knew how important they are). Seriously, if you want a realistic flightsim you have no choice but to have these pedals.

[@Tom--Ace]

Agreed Rennie, before I started training for my PPL flight simming was just a hobbie and I made do without any rudder pedals and just twist rudder on my X52, but now I am training for my PPL on a c172, a proper honeycomb yoke, throttle set and these pedals was a must for a reasonably realistic setup

[@rybuds47]

I would like to give CH Pro Pedals an honerable mention. Flying since 2015 with them and they are still great. I am a rotorhead too so they get worked! These might be the ticket if i ever replace them. Cheers!

[@Xibyth]

Definitely a future investment for me, for now I'm busy getting started and focusing on a good stick and thrust control module, then more content for dcs.

[@bjrnchrstn]

I NEEDED THIS! was doing more pirouettes on landing then I liked with the Logitech.

[@krhbc15177]

Really good review. I bought these pedals with my thrustmaster warthog hotas to replace my Logitech x52. The rudder twist in my old stick killed my wrist. Making the switch to pedals was definitely an adjustment because I had no muscle memory, it was totally foreign. But after a month of good use in Microsoft flight sim and star citizen, these pedals are a must. The added control and comfort they add are next to none as is the build quality. Will probably be the longest lasting pc peripheral you ever buy.

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

It probably will be the longest lasting peripheral you buy, they are built like a tank

[@homomorphic]

I had rhe opposite problem as a real life pilot, I had to learn (and never really successfully) to use the twist.oma hotas. Once I had the tprs it finally felt like a real aircraft.

[@chocks9350]

Absolutly love my Pendular pedals.... I am sure I will have 10 years or more of flying with mine :)

[@drScorp1on]

Although I just recently bought the TPRPs, I find that the Saitek/Logitech Rudder Pedals are still quite usable, as long as you put a certain curve to them (difficult to explain here, but if anyone asks I'll try). Stating the obvious, the TPRPs are clearly above and beyond (as is the price).

[@g4kfjve7kfj34]

never had a problem with the Logitech pedals ,Set up correctly very usable

[@johnf6545]

Hi, great review as always. I was considering these but watching your video it seems the pedals are quite high off the floor and would be hard to operate with heels on the floor. I have the logitech pedals and my only problem with them is under braking I have to shift my feet onto the pedals which makes it difficult to be stable with the rudder. It seems these pedals require feet on as well for braking. BTW, I noticed you had the logitech pedal brackets installed backwards. They are meant to rest your heels on not to hold the pedals in place so they should be placed in front of the pedals not behind. If you install the velcro hook strips on the bottom of the pedals they are very stable on carpet. WRT dead zone, this is easily adjusted in FS2020 and has not been an issue for me at all. TBH, my logitech ones are quite easy to control rudder with heels on the floor, braking is their weakness for me but I use the brakes so little not a deal breaker. I think I will keep looking for something closer to the real thing, cheers.

[@romaniachin6751]

I agree on the 4 star for the same reason!

[@GUSSTASS]

Hi i was wondering if you could show how to set up the pedals as i am having trouble aligning the rudders to the straight ahead trim and im not sure if the rudders turn to the left or right so fast is necessary. I programmed an S curve with a small dead zone but thats no good, so your advice would be grateful.

[@erich930]

Some day I definitely want to get rudder pedals for my flight sim setup. It's almost easier to control a real airplane than a flight sim with a twist joystick!

[@Falco13]

I wish you try the velocity rudder pedals and tell us how they different in comparsion to the thrustmaster pendular ones.

[@planmastercopycenter8801]

Thank you. Considering to get one to replace my very old CH Rudder. The only problem is the size. Is it possible to remove base plate? I want to unbox it and fill in my luggage and attatch again later.

[@captainduggo6084]

Michael, How do I adjust my pedals so they are like yours? At the moment, I couldn't get the strip of metal to go higher than the last two holes on the back of the pedals. Thanks.

[@lawrencetierney4053]

I have the Logitech Rudder Pedals and I agree with your assessment, however how would you compare the Thrust Master Rudder Pedals to the Virpil Pedals?

[@ivandiazpadilla9231]

Captain, thanks for your tutorial, I have a question, I checked the Thrustmaster TPR, when turning fully to the left and the same to the right, the rudder or the front tire of the plane only turns 10%, what could be happening in my configuration How can you help me?

[@tosco92]

hello, how are you with this product, optimal for flying on p3d or fs2020 with airbus or boeing type liner?

[@tommaxwell429]

Yes they are great peddles. But man, that price, my goodness! There are a couple of options in the middle between these and the plastic ones namely Virpil. I had their Ace interceptor and they are beautifully built and function well. They aren't of the pendulum design so it takes a while to get used to the feel but they work well and are cheaper.

[@ialjuna]

Great video ! is it compatible with Xbox X ?

[@stovic1442]

I would never use twist shift for rudders but the rocker isn't too bad on the TWCS.

[@JoshuaJohnson-ve7ty]

I have a pair of virpil pedals. They are built really well, but I have a hard time maintaining a center line, but that's probably just because I'm not that good yet.

[@homevid]

Cubesim TM TPR damper mod missing :) Once you got that one mounted, it's even better and feels more precise (and this time you can harden or soften the pendular movement, and get rid of the oscillation :) Cheeeers ;)

[@Femur15]

I’m an amputee (LAKA) with a prosthetic and I’m curious if I can even use rudder pedals instead of engaging auto coordination.

[@arnrodag1]

I have a question, how did you manage to get footage without the two VR eye frames into a single image video? I can't seem to figure it out, is there a setting on flight Sim?

[@TheCrash1983]

i have had the pendular pedals for over a year and cant fault them, the way i see it is i will use them till the day i die and then my kids can use them.

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

They are certainly built to last, not sure I’ve ever owned a multi generational peripheral before….lol 🤣

[@citizenblue]

Great overview! New sub here! How did you find the braking tension to be? I own the Logitech pedals and the lack of resistance in the braking axis frustrates me to no end. I also have to loosen the tension completely on the rudder axis, then play with the dead zone in sim settings to get acceptable rudder input like you mentioned.

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

The braking tension is higher than the Logitech pedals but it’s doesn’t have lots of resistance. It’s also not adjustable which is a shame. It adequate I would say but far from the resistance you would get on a car brake pedal.

[@citizenblue]

@@VirtualRealityPilot Hey, thanks! I may have to check these out once the holidays are done draining my wallet!

[@mrserdarkadioglu]

I have Logitech extreme 3d pro joystick, I want a throttle. If I buy a Logitech Flight Throttle Quadrant, can I combine these two (or may be add Logitech rudder also) ?

[@Male_Parent]

I splurged on the Warthog HOTAS and saw these being $50 more and wondering are they needed. It's seems that's a "sort of" answer. I wish they we're $500 instead of $600. Still got to wait for them to be available. They've been unavailable for at least a few weeks now.

[@rogercox8228]

Can I connect then to Xbox series x? I have the thrustmaster hotus Yoke

[@aperturescience2]

Can you do a review of the Crosswinds v3 please?

[@Aleksandar6ix]

Overlooked because there was so much garbage and sims past have handled rudder input poorly. I've been simming since FS95, and only 4 years ago did I get my first rudder pedals. As a real world pilot, I hated prior models until I tried VKB MK-IV Trudders. The one I want now are the Thrust master TPR.... But we need more yoke and throttle options to pair up the high quality. My only tradeoff is that VKB don't have toe brakes, so I used the lever on my former CH Yoke and the two small axes on my current Boeing yoke

[@johncullen1923]

I was wondering if these pedals can be configured to hang from under a desk,etc by swapping the arms. Am trying to create a compact movable simpit that resembles a helicopter with hemispherical front view and want to look down between feet.

[@flipcoin6301]

Yes. Reverse the axis in the sim software

[@Sataniceasterbunny]

got the honeycomb set yoke and throttle but hell no 400+ euros for rudders got the saitek ones and very happy

[@paulsheather7657]

I have them they are worth every cent

[@user-zj2st3sm6g]

I wonder what's inside the middle of it. I always think is there things inside that makes it expensive.

[@Cloudybox12]

Can you share your sensitivity settings for MSFS please ? Great video as well..

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

thanks, appreciate the feedback, I leave of the sensitivity settings at their default value which works well for me

[@Cloudybox12]

@@VirtualRealityPilot Thanks for taking the time to reply

[@salazarbernardo]

Hi there, thanks for the review! Just bought mine, but having a hard time making it work in MSFS properly. My rudder imputs are jumping all over the place. I used the tpr calibration software, but after I close it, the problem starts again... Have you experienced that?

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

no - I've not had any problems with them in MSFS. Do they calibrate ok and show the correct response in windows?

[@salazarbernardo]

@@VirtualRealityPilot well, i calibrated them using the provided software from TM, and everything works fine. But in MSFS it's a mess. It goes from 0 to 100% input with nothing in between for both brakes and rudder... Don't know what to do. Did you just plug and play?

[@jordibravo5298]

@@salazarbernardo Are you using them through a USB hub? If so try plugging them in directly to your PC or using a different (powered) USB hub. Had that problem with lots of hardware before.

[@UR_WEEKLY_MEMES]

do they work with xbox

[@StealthFlightFPV]

I updated my sim pit to these peddles and the difference has been night and day for me. I"m mostly on centerlines now and just need to keep practicing. No more jerking left and right on takeoffs!

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

My experience also - a much overlooked but excellent peripheral

[@daysofgrace2934]

Are the brakes load-cell i.e. measure pressure like a hydraulic brake system or the usually hall-cell/potentiometer displacement measuring…

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

All the axes use Hall effect sensors

[@daysofgrace2934]

@@VirtualRealityPilot TBH it’s not the price point that flight sim software and hardware falls down but it’s the lack of quality. At this price-point the brakes should be load-cell to mimic hydraulic brakes. I bought a Honeycomb yoke for close to £250; there some basic level force-feed back. You would get in Logitech/Thurstmaster steering wheel...

[@NewtypeCommander]

I have a question about these rudder pedals: how wide are these pedals from one pedal to the other?

[@tomas5577]

They are 21 inches outside to outside of the pedals. Also 14 inches high and 11 inches deep.

[@zaidzainal]

Virpil Ace Interceptor rudder or TM TPR Rudder? HELP!

[@mikeo6185]

I’m wondering the same thing, I just purchased the TPR and considering sending them back for the virpils. TPR unit I got are unbalanced, slide on hardwood, and have a click when I push the left pedal. Unacceptable at this price point.

[@kenbarthSimAV8tor]

Too expensive at $700.00 Canadian; I'll stick to my pro flights; plus unsure if TPRs would fit/mount on my sim rig!

[@EbonySeraphim]

My UpliftV2 standing desk (80" with L-return left) cannot be used with this. I'm glad I cannot use it because it simplifies my decision making. If/when I replace my current Saitek Combat Pro rudder pedals, it'll probably have to be with Virpil. Virpil has the benefit of using their software which can trigger buttons along an axis to be used for those sims with wheel brakes as a button only. While I'm sure someone can chime in and say there is third party software to perform that task, it's cleaner if the device itself does it. Spare me having to configure run 4-5 background apps for my simulator experience. Virpil's loading of the device behavior onto the device itself should be an industry standard. Thrustmaster is behind in this respect as I've only considered running TARGET for my TM Warthog when I was trying to use it for Battlefield 3 which has no support for a 32 button joystick.

[@nejcmirtic529]

The TM TARGET software and outdated piece of garbage, tried it for the warthog, uninstalled it right away, since it just mixes everything into one device, and you lose the buttons. Went with Joystick Gremlin, adjusted and binded all of the buttons with macros, so I got the OFF positions working as a button too. So now I got 64 buttons and 8 axis binded through it, and it works great. But you have to install vJoy to crate a virtual xInput device (wich I already had installed for the other things I was doing before). And from now on I am using Joystick gremlin exclusively.

[@jameso3953]

I would like a comparison against the redbird alloy. I can't wait till you get your mits on that rudder pedal.

[@bobwright8789]

This is probably a question with an obvious answer but how much difference does VR make?

[@VirtualRealityPilot]

its huge for me, its the difference between looking through a window into a world and being in the world

[@Lukasekt212]

The pedals are actually from a boeing 747-8i

[@Bren39]

Most people don't need this expensive unit... That's why TM sends these to all KZbinrs for free to talk it up. A saitek about quarter the price should suffice.. But if have the money.. Great.

[@ChapatiMan]

No way you put those apostrophes in the title 💀

[@nunosantos2015]

600 I bought my honeycombo yoke + bravo and I still have almost 200 left. I think that pedals are extremely expensive for what he does. Even if they are 150 I will not pay I'm still very happy with my Logitech rudder. That's is only rich pockets wasting money 😅

[@paulthurston2883]

I bought the Logitech pedals a few months ago and they are so uncomfortable to use the toe brakes due to the shallow angle of the foot rests. You get a gym workout and stretching exercise to depress the brakes. Plus they slide all over the place unless bolted down or fully against the wall. I'm going with these as soon as funds permit.

[@artic9514]

got mine for $200 from some poor dudes wife. they are amazing.

[@nodakkian]

The fart

[@chuckfinley4757]

I hate it when people put apostrophes in plural words.

[@eillswim]

Eeh? The Logitech pedals have zero deadzone dude 😂 Same with the toe brake... Wtf is this review? 😂 Imagine comparing a £100 set of pedals against a £400 set 😂😂😂😂😂

[@rackum44]

The price is just ridiculous. No no reason for them to be that much $$$