TRANSFORMERS: THE BASICS on ANTAGONY

[@Quillobyte_]

Antagony's got one of the coolest names in Transfomers. Ant + Agony + Antagonist = Antagony, that's weapons-grade wordplay.

[@Da_ComputerMonster]

*100 Wordsmith*

[@TheGenuineDWNUT]

It's also a pun on Aunt Agony....

[@TheGenuineDWNUT]

It's also a pun on Aunt Agony....

[@boi7316]

*[Wordsmith +100]*

[@Blakewyattdunfee]

Antagonistic & antagonize.

[@CasualRonin]

Man, I love Obscure Characters Month. Getting to learn about these cool, yet rarely seen characters is always a treat.

[@zixise]

I totally agree with you

[@lordcheesus1013]

Yup. Only problem is we rarely get to see them on any form of screen for TV media. Most of if not all of these "obscure characters" I actually would've loved to see episodes for in their respective Transformers continuities. At least bots like Apelinq give us some exceptions and EVENTUALLY get on screen appearances.

[@Mechakie]

Yes

[@skydarksparksworld1675]

​@@zixise I would like to see the basics on BEAST WARS RAMPAGE

[@orinanime]

I love the multiple levels of her name. Ant. Agony. Antagonize. Antagonist. Also presumably inspired by the name of the Greek character Antigone. I also like the idea that Unicron has heralds, much like Galactus, another world-devouring God-like being.

[@phillipjohnson8903]

Man season 4 of TFA really was gonna be the best transformers cartoon of all time.

[@Da_ComputerMonster]

We we're denied Bludgeon as a PIRATE!

[@lucabergamaschi3807]

Season 4 of TFA Is the ark of the covenant of Transformers fan

[@joethehero2]

I'm gonna tell him. Don't you dare.

[@Zee_Blade]

Stupid Aligned continuity.

[@andres6v893]

It was too peak, thus it had to be sealed

[@Fuzzy_Barbarian]

I'd love to see more female Beastformers. The IDW design looks really cool, I'd love to see that become her go-to design and to see her pop up more.

[@bthsr7113]

Just no spiders or insects

[@nathanielhernandez3584]

I thought hauler and toxitron were obscure but at least i heard they're names. But her? Practically haven't heard of her until now. So thanks chris you're channel is awesome for stuff like this and here i was thinking i knew everybody

[@gabrielchee8470]

TBH the repaint was inevitable but shocking to see nonetheless due to how obscure this character is

[@DeathAlchemist]

So many characters, you will never run out. Sounds like their may need to be a basics on botcon. Akso, I think Powerglide would be good for an episode as well.

[@angelbasiliorodriguezbusto2065]

"Why universe hate Antagony?" Almost every time that she appears, she gets destroyed for whatever reason!

[@pizzathehut2264]

There is character from Digimon that always gets killed after a few episodes. It became a meme. Leomon always dies in every Digimon Show. Some characters are just destined to die 😅

[@dvd1098]

Dirge is also on the same boat in character death.

[@HazyGlasses]

@@pizzathehut2264 cliff jumper

[@MANESHARK]

Honestly, of all the Transformers that have boobs for some reason, the art for Antagony makes the most sense. Having the eyes become the boobs actually makes sense, and more well parallels male characters like optimus prime who's windows and grill resembles pecs and abs.

[@apersonwithastockimage6289]

She can't say, "my eyes are up here"

[@shenglongisback4688]

​@@apersonwithastockimage6289lol

[@michaelrlomax1977]

Now that is a character I would love to see brought into mainstream Transformers media. And the best thing got one of the best villains names ever. Seriously enjoying the selection of characters this December cannot for the last ones. Outstanding work!

[@MrDoctorVK]

It's legit surprise that someone on Hasbro remembered Antagony and decided to dip Legacy Predacon Inferno mold in black.

[@mrsamaritan6881]

Considering it's a pretty famous BotCon toy and the ONLY repaint of Beast Wars Inferno, it's not really all that surprising if you bother to think about it.

[@moonwhooper]

No need to be a prick I'd never heard of them before legacy and I've been a fan since i was a child ​@mrsamaritan6881

[@Umbra_Ursus]

I'd say Acid Storm is still the most insane case of "Let's bring that rando back up!". Took maybe twenty-five years for him to get a toy (Out of nowhere, to boot), much less name.

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

@@mrsamaritan6881 A "famous BotCon toy" to hardcore fans maybe, but the majority of the fanbase doesn't keep up with convention exclusives. And given that there have been plenty of legitimate surprises recently, yeah, it's a bit surprising. Maybe not as much as Beast Wars Ravage, but still.

[@snakesolid2279]

Me: “Transformers lore couldn’t possibly get more convoluted” Exclusive repaint tie-in comics: “hold my fucking beer”

[@mattr75]

The Legacy Inferno toy was quite good, and Antagony definitely benefited from it

[@KHFMcAwesome]

“Which version of her puts the ants in your pants?” DO YOU MIND?! I’M A RESPECTABLE MAN!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@xenomorph_636]

they knew what they were doing eith the eye placement

[@gabrielchee8470]

​​@@xenomorph_636no, its a consequence of using bw inferno's design. They could have just left the bug head hanging there

[@xenomorph_636]

@gabrielchee8470 bruh not in the other versions bro the eyes became circles brought higher up. i mean the designers from beast wars made blackarachnia "sexy" because they went to a strip club the night before

[@aerickmon3350]

I mean the idw one speaks for itself tho

[@Ryder-a-Blaze]

It’s great learning about characters that I’ve never heard of before

[@brandonandcharlene9527]

I dont really have any attachment to the character or the toy, but Botcon 98 was my first TF Convention. Being at that script reading with Garry Chalk, David Kaye, Doug Parker, Scott McNeal, Susan Blu, as well as Vince DiCola providing the music was an awesome and fun experience Ill never forget. Unfortunately no recording devices were allowed, so I had to leave my camcorder in the hotel room. I am glad though that yeas later it was uploaded to KZbin to be able to remember the experience.

[@diegos7337]

A tragic character! This was great! Thanks Chris! I love obscure characters month!

[@CD-Freedom]

Antagony: “I can’t feel pain!” Inferno: “Pain is my friend. Allow me to introduce you to it!”

[@henryheavy8044]

Now we just need to introduce the Autobot/Maximal Mechanist into the equation

[@olvacron22]

I love that Antagony is one of those characters that has a different personality in basically every universe she's been in, making it incredibly easy to come up with your own personality for her. Me personally I like to think of her as Infernos sister that was kidnapped along with Cataclysm and Shokaract by the Vok to become supersoldiers for their tests on transformers.

[@SessionSakic]

For myself, I always imagined that Antagony was the true Queen that Inferno was supposed to serve, I also imagine more Ant bots, making up a hive of sorts

[@Da_ComputerMonster]

I shall call her _"Devorah"_ For _this one_ is a Bug Lady

[@phillipwalters7702]

Hello there Chris and fellow Transformer fans. I do apologize for the tardiness of my comment. However, I have been a bit busy with work and other things, when this video was posted. Anyways, I just wanted to say that this video dealing with this obscure Transformer character was absolutely amazing. To be honest I never really heard of this character before and I found this information about her to be really incredible, especially since we got her whole history in this wonderful spotlight video. Anyways thank you so much for this great video and I hope that everyone in this community has a great day, as well as being safe and healthy. Until next time, when All Are One. Peace Out and Maximize.

[@thezabgoth7426]

Antagony also appeared in the Furman written story at the Botcon 2023 custom class.

[@ChrisMcFeely]

BotCon ceased being officially-backed after 2016, so any content after that point isn't within the scope of The Basics.

[@gabrielchee8470]

I was admitedly surprised it still existed beyond 2016, i thought afterwards Botcon just...died

[@JoleneBlake]

​@@gabrielchee8470 It's not really the same convention - the owners of the name licensed it to a new company.

[@lachauntiswashington231]

It's kinda scary that she can't feel pain, so she inflicts it on others.

[@rpgrage7711]

Holy crap Antagony is really cool I literally never heard that original story that's super unique

[@DSPIC444]

Her design brings a whole new meaning to my eyes are up here.

[@genesismultiverse4896]

Hey here's a way to explain in beast wars as tfa way starscream made his clones but with inferno as getting a raw energon crystal stuck in his head which heal him and makes clones of him for the LOYALTY

[@BEase44]

He's not obscure, but I always did want to learn more about Autobot Pipes

[@Da_ComputerMonster]

He transforms into a DOOR MAT!-

[@zusk8556]

He doesn't have enough meat to have his own "basics" video, but I always loved Antagony's rival Cataclysm, the black and purple redeco of Transmetal Cheetor. I feel like he's a woefully underutilized Unicron herald, and I like the notion of the heralds competing for Unicron's favor, rather than the autonomous zombie drones they're usually portrayed as.

[@SWDude2710]

Not gonna lie, but the first moment I saw the name of this character in a notification, it made me cringe a little over how awful it sounds. Antagony - Antagonist It's not that surprising to point out. The design and story, however, sound interesting, but I feel she deserved a less cringey name, though I never grew up with the beast wars era, so I probably wouldn't know better. Her story, at least, does have an interesting premise. First time I've even heard of this character, too, so thank you for introducing her, Chris. Your videos are both informative and really engaging to listen to.

[@TFfangeek]

Inferno might be a fiery maniac, but Antagony is a true sinister bugger among the Transformers.

[@vincentleonard3797]

Anyone remember Hardtop? According to TFWiki, he started off as a sniper in the Transformers: Cybertron toyline (apparently being Swindle's brother), then appeared in a Bayverse comic (who's toy I have), then appeared in Earthspark out of nowhere, as Swindle's brother again, and as the source of Mandroid's first cybernetic alteration. Sounds like a pick for next Obscure Characters Month to me. Funnily enough, my Hardtop toy's right arm broke off a while back. It's like it was foretelling something.

[@JrRobles95]

RIP Pauline Newstone the voice of Airazor

[@devinb.6297]

What's worse than ants in your pants? Uncles.

[@OnDavidsBrain]

Killface: "What, was Betty Bug Lady already taken?"

[@sivanlevi3867]

Never underestimate the ant! I heard it said that if ants were given the ability to generate nuclear weapons, they'd end the world in a week, but hearing the story of Antagony for myself, it might just turn into a world of pain. I wouldn't be surprised if someone reinvents her with a more seductive side, for I've heard it said that pleasure and pain go hand in hand. One thing's for sure though, if you don't surrender to Antagony, this ant is gonna make you say "uncle".

[@TeamMeunierYT]

Note learned: Antagony is either a dark herald under mind control, or a friendly under mind control. Glad I can maybe imagine her as a good guy, because let's face it, the "iconic" female Autobots are slim. It'd be cool to see her actually be on the good team for once, yeah?

[@ryan_the_rizza2571]

honestly, I really didn't expect this much information on this obscure character. I only knew her from the animated almanac.

[@Karlos1234ify]

Beast Wars & Animated was goated

[@Alzeal07]

Obscure for sure!

[@firdanharbima6997]

coming from DB I'm honestly surprised you have never cover THE ONE the dad ish of Unicron and Primus

[@starry53]

I always intriguing about the Animated version. Even though she and along with the other characters cannot be used for the series.

[@dirgewordsmithe]

1:39 BUT HEAR ME OUT THO...

[@Thealternate2022]

Chirs Mcfeely if your seeing this comment then i got give credit where credit is due. I mean your videos and how you explain the backstory about characters is amazing.

[@EternityKingdomsHeadHoncho]

Fun fact about Animated Antagony and Inferno: they might’ve had a bigger role in the original draft of Animated Season 4. The plan was to have Blackarachnia (in Season 1 BW colors) and her Predacon legions act as the primary villains. However, after some Hasbro meddling, the Animated Predacon subplot was reduced to just one episode and a Mini-Con-empowered Megatron was made Season 4’s main villain… you know, before Season 4 was canned outright.

[@ChrisMcFeely]

Fact is, there's every chance they might not have even BEEN IN season 4 if it had been made. They (and the BW-colours BA) were invented as repaints for BotCon years after the cancellation, not as part of the actual S4 plans. If they HAD been in it, they certainly wouldnt have looked like this, because they wouldn't have been Waspinator recolours!

[@Darkus_Da_Arcadian-Dragon]

I just picked up this figure because I was genuinely intrigued with them but later after I bought it I found out she was female and me being a massive fan of the story of how Female Transformers and how they came to be I absolutely love that about her even more and I appreciate this video learning all about her Hope we see her in the Next Transformers Movie

[@darrenheideman2546]

I suddenly see this approach, Antagony being paired with BW Rampage. Two forces that delight in inflicting pain.

[@nathanielhernandez3584]

Queens song " you're my best friend " would be perfect for the homicidal montage

[@gabrielchee8470]

Oh dear i just realized: Take rampages spark and combine it with antagonys inability to feel pain= Even shockwave woild regret making that

[@darrenheideman2546]

@@gabrielchee8470 Imagine those two pulling a Tigerhawk.

[@Lazrael32]

yeah But Antcrab just doesn't sound as impressive. @@darrenheideman2546

[@gabrielchee8470]

​@@darrenheideman2546 oh no

[@Werezilla]

Antagony was searching for Unicron’s disembodied life force buried deep under Earth? She was looking for Angomois Energy? That or Dark Energon.

[@ChrisMcFeely]

Check out The Basics on Dark Energon for a more detailed look at this weird series of coincidences!

[@valmid5069]

Can’t wait for more great updates and content from this amazing channel!

[@TheGenuineDWNUT]

"Fool! Pain is my friend! Allow me to introduce you to it!" "No, I don't think so; I can't feel it." Hypothetical interaction between Inferno and Antagony.

[@appalachiabrauchfrau]

I know you've done a vid on the DJD but I'd love to see one on my husbando Tarn, since he's gotten a new recent incarnation.

[@ionacustoyreviews857]

I knew antagony was a botcon exclusive, but I didn’t know the background of the character. I always love learning new things about transformers. It’s not much I don’t know

[@DONG-502]

Aligned Continuity is peak Transformers

[@EungsuLee]

I agree, Rescue Bots was cool.

[@vustvaleo8068]

she could be Inferno's actual queen, lol.

[@thealmightysnoood]

Should just call it "Bot-con Month"

[@lordcheesus1013]

I'm so greateful for comic books and their additions to Transformers continuities. As much as I do enjoy any Megatrons as "mainstay" villain characters, comic books help flesh out their worlds and make them feel more alive. Especially when we get to hear about other characters and their power plays to conquer Cybertron on their own like Shokaract and Antogony. It helps remind us there are in fact more than one evil being out in the universe with plots and agendas of their own. The only downside to that is deep lore comic book stuff like that is usually exclusive to comic books and we rarely get to see any of it on screen, TV or movies. Unfortunately, as much as I do appreciate the lore and story we get from them, I just don't have the time of day to collect and read comic books.

[@Sotau890]

i won't mind if Antagony would play role of either Inferno's sister or girlfriend

[@fasinfata]

An ant bot called Antagony? Genius, I love it!

[@ltb1345]

Never heard of her, but she's got a great design. Hopefully there'll be a toy based more closely on her original design, rather than being an Inferno recolor.

[@kennethsatria6607]

Im gonna say it, the design in the comics having a humanoid body is pretty attractive

[@javiersantanaaviles5885]

6:31 First Strike was so boring that I forgot that Antagony had an special appearance

[@GeorgiePoorgie86]

Dear Chris, I always enjoy these obscure character months and I would appreciate if you could tackle Decepticon Flatline in the future. Thank you and keep doing these amazing videos!

[@ultramaximusreviews]

Animated Inferno & Antagony would be cool

[@Snikit]

Transformers’ lore is so rich…

[@manoftheusajones5147]

Do THE BASICS on GRAPPLE next!

[@yunusali-ahmed4750]

Bruh what is Meg’s doing👉🏿👌 1:54

[@loccaleus1]

I love inferno...so i know id love her...bet shes as hilarious as he is.

[@originaluddite]

This character should be given a personal advice column as a Transformers agony aunt...

[@michaellombardi1620]

Now thats obsucre!

[@GenoKnightXZ]

I'd love to hear a basics on Tripredacus. I also think he would of been perfect in animated. Imagine Blackarachnia Succeeding in making a combiner and Tripredacus had the personalities from Beast Wars 2?

[@ZetaPrime77]

That's a wicked band name

[@jamiewalsh3349]

Cool ROTB sequel idea. Predacons loyal to Unicron led by Shokaract, Antagony as his right hand, should be the villains.

[@jonpower9728]

An excell-ant video on am obscure character.

[@mekman4]

Great Stuff, as always!

[@anwenlokier2292]

In my school vr game, Antagony was a prisoner of ghosts, but during the break out, she tried to kill megatron but was stopped but was let go after Mandroid tried to control her like Terran Hastag ultimately she, escaped and whipped out the archamechs of Mandroid offscreen and its comfirm in a CTOSAR data recovery in the ruins of facility Grimlock

[@tylerprime3547]

2:08 is that the matrix of chaos

[@MrSonicHedgehog]

So she was a darker incarnation of Inferno. Damn

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

Antagony: Yo my eyes are up here not my chest :P LOL

[@Ironhidecity17]

Next week could you do the basics on grapple

[@tssteelx]

Okay anyone got a name for this character? No one? Okay, send it to the dad department.

[@singagency1481]

My eyes up here, ...and down here...🐜

[@CidYoshi]

With that name, I was expecting this to be a case similar to the character Enemy.

[@littlenightfury3462]

I want to see a rampage episode

[@nicwhite8206]

I like that she is a herald of unicron like shokaract it's pretty cool.

[@pandegaarkanrauf8413]

That Was Nice

[@ninetailednaruto11a]

So we getting Catastrophe next? Cuz we just got an obscure character within an obscure character 😜

[@LittleAl016]

"What? Is 'Betty Bug Lady' already taken?"

[@DCMarvelMultiverse]

Love the name. Antione (against birth) + agony = ant + agony = antagonist + agony.

[@ge0_istaken]

"put ants in your pants" is the weirdest thing ive heard chris say especially knowing people simp on female predacons

[@pious83]

Strange to think in hindsight of the alternate head on the new figure. That the TM -Inferno- Scavenger figure didn't receive an Antagony redeco.

[@Umbra_Ursus]

It just dawned on me that Inferno's/Antagony's head design looks a lot like a Duke Nukem alien trooper's.

[@whitewing2]

Planning to get her, and instead of placing the alternate head, I’ll remold Elita 1’s lower face and replace it in the Alter heard to make her head more accurate

[@chrithmuthwolf344]

Certainly one of the better-named (and color-designed) reuses from the Beast Wars era. But let's be honest.....a purple and neon green Cheetor redeco named Cataclysm? Ready to preorder that one any day now, Hasbro.

[@Sheshoo47]

1:27 is her head design loosely inspired by Darth Vader

[@Amandauniversehub]

Antagony genuinely implies she lives in constant state of pain internally

[@connorphipps8377]

Antagony, Twin Disciple Of Cataclysm, Shokaract's Second Loyal Officer

[@iodaspark]

"...'Ants' in your pANTS?" BRILLIANT! 🤩 🎉

[@ninjasam2504]

A basics episode on the evergreen designs would be cool

[@Callon4968]

The Basics on Shockaract will become the next Cosmically Powered Starscream istg

[@DBWalks2010]

Fantastic video and story 👍👍👍👍😎