Trekyards EP329 - USS Enterprise (Disc) Eaglemoss Renders First Look

[@ross-kt3up]

IMO this is how the Kelvin universe Enterprise should have looked. Subtle updates and more detailled than the original TOS Enterprise but not an almost radical different look.

[@giftheck]

And what's more it actually looks like a natural progression from NX and USS Kelvin. This could work as a 'prototype' Constitution in the Prime timeline too.

[@tdrewman]

JJ would have got less hate if his Enterprise would have looked like this... I can not wait to get mine from Eaglemoss when it is available to purchase.

[@TalesOfWar]

And even less if the scale wasn't so ridiculous. The original scale was far better but he wanted to go Star Destroyer style huge.

[@anthonyalvear6599]

significantly more beautiful than JJ's Abrams garbage design.

[@Hiluxtaco]

This should've been the JJ-Prise...

[@winkles2314]

Anthony Alvear No it's not. It's a mess.

[@Amadeus1066]

Anthony Alvear I love this design and the JJ Enterprise!

[@andycblack]

The JJ-Prise looks cartoonish and silly to me. This is a reasonable modern interpretation of the Matt Jeffries original, but was any redesign necessary?

[@kavinskysmith4094]

explain the dull, ugly boring overdetailed speckled hen paint job on this UGLY sob then?

[@JusticeGamingChannel]

This is what JJ-Prise shoulda been, plain and simple, a visual difference, but yet still honoring and true to the original.

[@WaybackTECH]

I love the original, and I love this. It is ok to love both. Sleek is the word that comes to my mind. Frankly I would be quite fine with this ship being the hero ship for season 2 and Discovery just sort of flying off to do it's own thing. I personally feel that this ship fits better as a pre-refit Enterprise than the original TOS did. If they could just fix the Klingons.... hopefully we won't see the Klingons in the second season.

[@Samantha_was_here_first]

Ah, a new design and people are liking and disliking it. Its not really suprising. I liked the old austin mini but hate the bmw version. I can point out all the 'updated' icons i dislike but not here. I will say that the designers did a better job than most and it does look like a 1701 to none fans so i'll congradulate them for that. I also applaude the upscaling as the original with all its tech and personel did seam too small, I will not however like it if the scale has doubled. Anyway, my thoughts only. Thanks for showing this.

[@countofdownable]

I like it, a good mix of TOS and TMP.

[@kesselrunner]

As a Constitution variant design, it looks great; but in the immortal words of Senator Vreenak: "It's a faaaake!" ;-)

[@JasePow68]

While it's a nice design, it's an unnecessary change from the TOS Enterprise. It would have worked in place of the movie era refit, but it's still proof that STD is a reboot.

[@PhilDrury]

I just had a really whacked out idea about the look of this Enterprise. During one of the TNG episodes - "Remember Me" I think - the computer gives a brief history of the Enterprise D "The Enterprise NCC-1701-D is yadda yadda blah blah etc and is CURRENTLY THE ONLY ONE IN SERVICE" ...as if to imply there's been two or more in service at some time. Aha, could this explain the discontiniuty of both this new Discovery Enterprise AND the two Enterprise C designs? Albeit unintentionally. Hmmm

[@danielcraig9666]

I don't want 10% off, I just want the damn things to show up with the correct tampo and not broken.

[@andycblack]

“...correct tampo...”?

[@JayStrang1]

The logo applications. i.e. USS Enterprise, United Federation of Planets, the pennants, etc. I'm guessing he ordered a ship that arrived with the wrong name and/or registry on it.

[@Hiluxtaco]

Timothy Dennis Ortega I think that he is referring to quote, "the process in which the graphics are applied" to this model..

[@Kaiber_Phoenix]

I know what you mean i ordered a USS Prometheus and they never sent it off the decided I didn't pay for it and then asked for a copy of my bank details to confirm the purchase. Haven't even attempted to buy one since

[@andycblack]

Jeremy Strang Ohhhhhh! He’s talking about the Eaglemoss miniatures! I thought he was taking about the redesigned Discovery Enterprise! Well, yes indeed they are famous for misalingned window graphics on their starship miniatures. So, never having heard the word “Tampo” before I’ve done my Google diligence: It does seem to be a fairly obscure term that hasn’t found its way into dictionaries or even Wikipedia. But essentially Tampography is a less common term for the process known as Pad Printing, which is an offset printing process that can transfer a 2-D image onto a 3-D object by transferring the ink from an engraved printing plate via a silicone pad onto the object: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pad_printing In this glossary of Pad Printing terms it describes the term “Tampon” as the typically German name given to the silicone transfer pad. The tampon is used to transfer the ink image from the printing plate to the item being printed on: www.decotechgroup.com/library/pad-printing/tech-bulletin-pad-print-glossary/ The only reference I could find that used the word to refer to the printed graphics themselves was this Hot Wheels wiki: hotwheels.wikia.com/wiki/Tampo I also found some Pad Printing companies with the word in their names: www.tampo.co.uk/ www.tampoprint.de/en/research-and-development/pad-printing-key-findings.html Fascinating stuff. I’ve always wondered how intricate shapes like the Eaglemoss miniatures could have paint applied to them as part of a commercial production line but never bothered to actually find out until now. Thanks for the motivation Daniel Craig!

[@Jimmer93]

No matter how much STD fanboys try and argue this takes place in the original TOS universe , there's no way you can shoehorn this into the Cage era. It just doesn't work. I don't entirely dislike the design, it just isn't the enterprise from the cage, because they've made it too like the movie version. If they were doing a phase II era, it "could" work... But all the visual things aren't the biggest problem, the fact that CBS just don't give a shit about the fans or their source material add to that the same old shootem up, virtue signalling bullshit and crap writing. It makes TNGs first season almost look good!

[@Jimmer93]

No they weren't, but STD fanboys use that as reference when people say STD sucked. I didn't think TNG was terrible, it wasn't amazing TV either, but, the TNG pilot was outstanding compared to, pretty much all of Discovery.

[@comradeyuri2972]

>Virtue signals about things conforming to "muh canon" >Whines about "virtue signalling"

[@Jimmer93]

Lol, these guys. I forgot I shouldn't feed the trolls. How is wanting some consistency virtue signalling? Haha. Oh, I do love it when people start running out of ideas to make an argument. Clearly you haven't seen all the interviews pre release, it was all virtue signalling. I'm not saying TNG was great during it' first couple of seasons, but in this day and age of Television, they still Timothy, you've just hit the nail on the head. As far as pilots go, Encounter at Far point really wasn't that bad. I'm sorry bit lot of lens flares and CG doesn't make STD's pilot any better than it!

[@Argonautx66]

TNG had several excellent episodes in season one and two. They had some rubbish as well. Not perfect seasons, but certainly superior to STD in comparison.

[@DrewLSsix]

Jamie House. The Cage never fit with the rest of TOS to begin with. And it was never meant to, the show was literally rebooted between pilots. Cage only became "canon" so they could stretch the budget with a clip show.

[@stararnold]

Finally, we get a more clear view of the ship. Now we wait to see how the NCC-1701's shuttle units (example: Galileo) will appear in ST: DSC.

[@Vipre-]

That's not bad. Looking at the TMP refit and this the difference in height appears to come from removal of the neck torpedo launcher and not a change in the neck angle itself. Well done.

[@bryanmcfarland967]

Hi Guys! I just noticed that the three (3) "lights" around the bridge area seem to be duplicated under the saucer too.

[@saintwildfirerecords]

At least the pennant on the secondary hull is correct. I thought they'd have changed it to the modern delta. Happy they didn't

[@forrestpenrod2294]

Saint WildfireRecords according to Scott Schneider that was an accident. The TOS bommerang delta was left on by mistake and the VFX people kept it rather then change it to the Disco Delta as originally intended.

[@hobbiesnorth4440]

Don't know if it's true, but John Eaves stated in an article that they were bound by legal reasons as to why the TOS Connie looks the way it does in STD. They were only allowed to use a certain percentage of the original's design. Kinda looks like a mashup of NX-01 Refit/TMP Refit/TOS. Not all good, but looks passable. Definitely fits in with STD. Not necessarily saying that's a good thing.

[@TrentonBennett]

John himself posted a link to that article on Facebook so take it as that.

[@Jack_Stafford]

But...why? Why would any of the entities involved want to hurt Star Trek or its most iconic ship? Somebody owns the damn thing just get it licensed like they have a million times before and move forward.

[@Centurian128]

CBS has since denied that and stated it was a creative decision.

[@garkon8242]

You know, i look at the Ships and tech and stuff like Uniforms in Discovery (Fed not Klingons) and i find it looks great and i find it very easy to make the connection between Ent and the redone TOS Era and from there to TMP and TNG as we knew it. Of course its partly because they were limited in what they could do in the 60's but Discovery could have done much worse, like JJ Trek.

[@dasnkiller]

so upscaled to what dimensions exactly ? Those huge Ships in DSC really bug me to be honest, especially the interiors.

[@gusty9053]

Yeah if this was the hero ship in STD i might have gone past ep 4. That being said if they try to sell this as the "prime timeline" connie, this being not just "updated" but also 25 % up scaled to the original design then no. They can take they're shitty show and they're redesigns and keep them in they're own timeline.

[@craze1701]

gusty9053 This is more proof that this is a different timeline

[@redshirt0479]

I’m going with this is how the _Constitution_ class first looked with the second pilot being a major refit, TOS being a minor refit from that, and the movie era being a second major refit. This could also explain why the perfectly good _Enterprise_ was retired when she was only 40, her keel might not have been able to take another major refit. As for the sizing, she appears to be the same as she’s always been and the _Crossfield_ class is the exception for the era being a test bed ship. Or they’re mostly retconning the apparent growth in starship size over time and the _Constitution_ class was the _Intrepid_ of her era. A medium-long range exploratory multirole exploration cruiser with the key difference being that the _Intrepid_ is more of a light cruiser while the _Constitution_ is a Heavy Cruiser or Battlecruiser depending upon who’s talking.

[@redshirt0479]

What do you mean shrunk it? We don't have any onscreen evidence that she's any larger than her TOS counterpart.

[@jerelo175]

RedShirt047 it’s called visual reboot

[@andycblack]

I understand the impulse to try and retcon the Discovery design changes to fit into the TOS era as we know it. I’m not a fan of the choice the Discovery producers made to redesign the established TOS era look and feel. But I think that the reveal of this redesigned Enterprise confirms that Discovery is a visual reboot of the prime timeline. The Enterprise as it appeared at the end of DSC season 1 is how it appeared during the events of The Cage and is how it will appear when Captain Kirk takes command 10 years later, at least in the Discovery version of the prime timeline. From the CBS promo for season two entering production it looks like they are at least introducing new Starfleet uniforms that are closer in design to the TOS uniforms. I hope these are going to be standard issue for the Discovery crew and not just a novelty for the Enterprise crew. The new uniforms are one of my least favourite designs from Discovery...

[@jerelo175]

Kurious Oranj it was already confirmed that it was a visual reboot, and don’t get you people

[@Jimmer93]

You can't shoehorn any of STD into the rest of the prime universe canon.

[@TailsTheFoxy]

It´s actually not a stretch that it could be a (pre)refit-version of the Enterprise, because we know that the ship got refitted at lest once or twice between 2254 and 2264 and later got another big refit at some point after the craft's encounter with the "galactic barrier" in 2265. So it could very well be that the happenings of S2 of disc (2257) are what leads to the first refit in which minor changes were made to the ship's exterior (most notably the impulse engines, warp nacelles, running lights, and hull markings) and more substantial changes were made to the interior color scheme and layout of the ship at that refit.

[@andycblack]

Interesting, but haven’t the events of The Cage already taken place prior to Discovery S1? I think it is unlikely that the ship changed from how it appeared in The Cage, to this Discovery design, and then back to the Where No Man Has Gone Before design. I think Discovery is intended as a total visual reboot of the TOS era.

[@jasonrtz]

I'm not a fan of the Excelsior Style design at the rear of the saucer and I hate that third fin at the bottom of the nacelles.

[@Imperator_Prime]

Angled pylons > straight pylons. It was one of the best improvements in the Constitution refit and thank Q they’re retconning it.

[@SJgolf891]

Those registry lights are also on the class of ship that the USS Gagarin was

[@Mat0llig]

Not including DSC, no other TV ships had self-illumination. Enterprise-D, Defiant, Runabouts, Voyager, etc.... Only Enterprise NX-01 had self illumination of the television series, probably because it was CG. TNG, DS9, & VOY used physical models

[@Doctors_TARDIS]

Voyager didn't really use their physical model as much as you might think. There's a few ways to tell the CG from the physical (The aftmost windows being lit/unlit is the easiest) and on a recent rewatch it really surprised me just how much they used the cg model once I learned to tell them apart.

[@Mat0llig]

True, but they still based a lot on the physical model, which didn't have self-illumination

[@cadsux]

On DS9, the Defiant, when it un-docked from the station, revealed a "spotlight" just ahead of the bridge, which shined upon the ship's registry. A nod to TMP Enterprise. The Voyager model had something similar too. Of course, neither one of these ships had the same level of self-illumination as TMP Enterprise.

[@andycblack]

Reading all the (completely justified) angst over the last few months about the across-the-board design changes in Discovery I wish the producers had done a better job of managing our expectations by explaining clearly in advance of the show airing that this was going to be a visual reboot. They were very clear that the show takes place during the prime timeline 10 years before TOS and this, quite reasonably, set us up with definite expectations about the design style of the ships, uniforms, technology etc. that would feature in the show. To not give us any context or warning about the massive design changes they were making to modernise the look of this era in the Trek universe has really harmed the reputation of the show for many long time Star Trek fans. My personal preference, if they didn’t want to adopt the classic sixties designs of the TOS era and instead have a modern looking show with contemporary designs and more advanced technology, would have been for them to take the blindingly obvious step of setting it post Voyager. But I guess they wanted to tie into the broader appeal of the classic series.

[@mikep1592]

LOVE THIS SHIP !!! This is just one sexy starship. Put in a holodeck and Captain Foley will be in his element. As always, please continue making it so.

[@josephmay6377]

The Cage enterprise had a window. You can see it on production pictures.

[@NihilusShadow]

No it didn't tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/0x00/thecage009.jpg tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/0x00/thecage010.jpg tos.trekcore.com/gallery/albums/0x00/thecage011.jpg

[@SGUDistantHope]

Gene Roddenberry said in the script that it was not a window, he specifically called it out in the production notes :)

[@privatecaboose250]

Can you show a link these production notes?

[@SGUDistantHope]

Sorry no, i saw them last year but didnt save them! (un helpful i know) im about 75% sure they were in a report on trekcore or star trek.com

[@Jimmer93]

It's not a window, it's a sensor panel. Anyone even remotely familiar with the pilot knows that.

[@Hiluxtaco]

The top of the saucer is very Excelsior looking in the back part of it..

[@Jack_Stafford]

Hiluxtaco yep, Samuel mentions that in the video.

[@Hiluxtaco]

I typed that before I got to that point in the video... lol

[@chrissonofpear3657]

Seems to spoil the lines a little...

[@redketchum3023]

Meybe this Enterprise has a battle refit. Only for the war, extra struts and extra engines for redundency.

[@kavinskysmith4094]

possible but that would imply logic in a universe where their is none, as what person in their right mind would nerve pinch their captain instead of just telling them to call ambassador sarek to confirm Their feelings about the klingons to the person incharge? and that was just the stupidity in the first episode!

[@darthkurland]

Do you think you could render the ship in full detail now that you have seen it from all angles?

[@curtissimpkins]

I love this Enterprise guys

[@Amadeus1066]

I love this new design. Sorry, If I missed you saying this but, when will this be available by Eaglemoss?

[@TomCat777]

Hey guys, Thank you for this video. I like this ship, but I see what looks like lots of Windows in the saucer for the bridge. I hope they bring this to STO. I'm sure I'm not the only one.

[@barrybend7189]

To make it better they could have used the Phase 2 Enterprise pylons.

[@comradeyuri2972]

Looks great, and am looking forward to season 2.

[@brettcooper3893]

If I could just shave just a TINY bit of the girth of the nacelles... "That's what she said." - Michael Scott

[@drvnwolfwolfie1377]

Ok odd question on 3 bridge lights. Are they not behind the phaser ports?

[@mavrah-m4129]

I think that this incarnation 'works' for me. It gives me a very strong 'Phase II' vibe, but different in the sense of keeping the nacelles essentially as-is, but modifying the struts and primary hull instead of the nacelles and the deflector dish. I'll chime in with others saying that this is what I feel like the JJPrise should've been.

[@terrywest111]

Again, I like this better than the JJ-Prise. But still, you don't mess with an icon (in my opinion). The ship's dimensions are still off in that her side profile still looks stunted and squashed. The original Enterprise looked taller. I prefer the larger neck of the the original. But it is much more faithful to the original than the JJ-Prise. There's something about the size of the impulse deck that doesn't look right. It's too big. The more refit-like slanted nacelle pylons are cool... but that's not what it's supposed to look like.

[@chrissonofpear3657]

And the saucer seems less sleek now, with more clutter.

[@captainronphillips]

You guys notice the impulse engines stick out of the saucer like the Excelsior or Enterprise B?

[@isfj1009]

This version is more than acceptable. Like it.

[@colanitower]

Star Trek has to compete with many more other SciFi TV series than in the old days. Some other series are very good, both visually and in projecting possible future technology. To stay in the game, changes have to be made to Star Trek. From that perspective, this re-imagined Enterprise does a very good job offering a modern sleek look while still respecting Star Trek's past.

[@andycblack]

I agree. But of course this whole mess could have been avoided if they had simply set it in a post Voyager era.

[@andycblack]

S C By “mess” I mean the negative fan reaction to the show. Even if they had done a decent job of managing fan expectations regarding the redesign there would still be unhappy fans who couldn’t accept that a new show has to redesign the classic TOS era with a modern look and advanced technology to be accepted by the larger non-diehard-fan segment of the audience. As for a post Voyager show, it only has to be five or ten (or however many you think plausible) years past the return of the starship Voyager if you want to update the designs and technology to be acceptable to a modern audience. The point is that it gives you a free hand to do whatever you like, design wise, and both old fans and new viewers alike can enjoy it. You could even introduce a new group of slightly differently evolved (or mutated by genetic experiments, or victims of a wired plague, or whatever...) Klingons that we’ve just never seen before, if you must... As for STO, lets not get into those canon issues... No, if I want to relive the TNG era I’ll watch TNG! (Or DS9, or Voyager...)

[@andycblack]

S C I don't agree with the dichotomy you are proposing. You don't have to set a post Voyager show either so close that it should have the same designs or so far in the future that it becomes unrecognisable as Trek. There is a lot of in between to play with there. I also don't agree with the producers that 50-100 years is long enough to make it unrecognisable as Trek, or with you that everyone would be VR piloting drones around. If you want to extrapolate current VR and drone technology into the future you could make an argument for everyone remote piloting drones around the galaxy in Kirk's era, or Picard's. But it is a made up sci-fi show and I see no reason to require that 100 years after Voyager everyone is using VR drones instead of starships. What I am proposing is that you take Discovery exactly as it is; uniforms, ship designs, bridge station interfaces, plot lines, characters (except for Sarek), rewrite any references to it taking place in the TOS era, and place it however many years after Voyager you find plausible for the designs and technology to have evolved into what we see in Discovery. Oh, and transwarp technology? Yeah... that turned out to have an unforeseen fatal flaw. Again! But I'm not saying the Discovery producers had to do this and that anything else is a travesty. I'm merely saying it was a viable option for the show. I do agree with you that there will always be a group of hardcore fans (I won't use the derogatory term "fanboy") who will be unhappy with changes. But live and let live I say. If some folks can't get past the changes and so can't enjoy the show that's a shame, but we can still have a robust and interesting discussion about it and that's what I'm here for.

[@colanitower]

Kurious Oranj I would have preferred the producers and marketeers of Discovery had said nothing about Discovery's timeline, and have fans guess where the series fits in while episodes unfold. That could have been less controversial and more fun, engaging viewers debating and puzzling it out. Well, too late for that now :) Maybe a next series could be post-Voyager. On the Enterprise-J, probably the last one before technology moves beyond the need for ships.

[@lunarpollen]

I compared these renderings to the same views of TOS Enterprise, and was surprised at how much *bigger* TOS Enterprise was. Using the diameter of the primary hull as a common trait between the two (perhaps a bit of an assumption on my part, but I feel confident in assuming they are about the same), both the primary and secondary hulls of TOS Enterprise are more massive, especially the secondary hull. TOS saucer section shows more mass mainly on its lower side, while the secondary hull is both significantly thicker and longer. Even the warp nacelles of TOS version are a bit thicker, as they taper less from fore to aft. The Discovery-era ship might appear bigger at first glance when looking at her by herself because the secondary hull is more curvaceous in shape (perhaps "plumper" might be a good term?) and the nacelle struts seem to look more substantial... and she looks more formidable... But if you compare them side-by-side or overlay one silhouette over the other, TOS Enterprise is definitely a more voluminous vessel (i.e., greater displacement, or do they even use that term for starships?)... Anyway, instead of just dismissing the differences as being merely creative on the part of the designers of the respective shows, I like to think about why/how the two versions could exist in the same canon. I'll lay out my theory; let me know if it seems flawed or unreasonable: If we assume the Discovery-era Enterprise is a brand new vessel (i.e., how we see her is the maiden configuration as the Constitution-class was first launched) we know that the Federation has been on a wartime footing, so her primary role is a military one, and that's reflected in her appearance. She looks lean, sleek, like she can certainly handle herself in a scrap, very capable of getting the job done. Her overall profile is more squat and hunched than TOS version, her curves look more economical, her details like they have serious purpose. She's a fighting machine. But by the time TOS rolls around, the Federation is in more of a peacetime mode, and a greater proportion of resources and manpower can now be spent on missions of science, exploration, and benevolent diplomacy. Many vessels receive refits to make them more suited to carry out such roles, and for multi-year durations. For our beloved Enterprise, expansions to the lower primary hull provide greater accommodation and comfort for crew; the secondary hull is expanded for more cargo capacity, sensor suites, science and exploration facilities, an expanded engineering section, a bigger shuttle bay, etc. The warp nacelles are a bit more substantial, and the neck between primary and secondary hulls is expanded in height by three or four decks. Many of the overall curves and angles that contributed to her original somewhat slightly fierce appearance are less pronounced (including simpler, straight nacelle pylons), and she's given a top to bottom paint job and new livery/lettering, which gives her a more stately, polished, friendly, diplomatic, optimistic appearance (first impressions are important when meeting new civilizations). TOS Enterprise looks more matronly, and although she *might* be a little less manuverable and peppy, she can still move when she wants to, and she still has a full compliment of phasers and torpedoes (and a capable crew trained to use them). So that's my theory, anyway. The Enterprise we see in Discovery is the same one from TOS; she just hasn't been repurposed/refit yet for a more peaceful role.

[@gordon5004]

I'm sorry gentlemen, but those are lights, not windows. Am I the only one who thinks the saucer is too small, or the nacelles are too big?

[@jameswg13]

i also love how theyve kept the sensor pod as well at the back still.

[@cwallacefilms]

Does that bridge have 3 windows? Front and sides?

[@jhathaway8026]

Trekyards teams up with Eaglemoss and loves their Enterprise model. Color me shocked.

[@mathewdefreitas4510]

I love this version compared to the original JJ-prise. I much prefer the JJ-refit, prior to the launch of the justin lin enterprise-a. However, my two nit-picks are the lighting of the NCC-1701 on the top piece of the saucer section, and the slanted struts. Why can't you just leave it alone? I can much more easily see a tie in with TOS Enterprise if there is tiny lights illuminating the registry. And I think we all wish the nacelle struts were straight.

[@watchthe1369]

the neck works, the nacelle struts might be a bit thick. The eventual refit needs something narrow to broaden for more strength.

[@PixelatedH2O]

Isn't there a corridor around a lot of Federation bridges? I'm perfectly fine with that, especially if it means no viewscreen window! Otherwise, I really like this design, except that the nacelles look too tall at the front.

[@LightStrikerQc]

My only issue is the size. 1701 is supposed to be "ship of the line", the big boy, etc. But every single other ships are way more massive! It makes the Enterprise looks like a small escort.

[@simonwillis1529]

Trekyard great vids always Wanted to ask how does the defiant dock at ds9 Sorry if you have had this question before

[@comradeyuri2972]

Where is Lorca's ship? The Buran? I like the 4 nacelles and front mounted bridge.

[@renanfeitosa101]

Looks like a uss kelvin type kit bash

[@lucideandre]

One thing I noticed, that I wanted to point out. I think that image is a little squished, or something. The nacelles in the side view look bigger than in the top view. That could mean that they are not round but oblong, but in the series, when it appeared, it looked round.

[@GenJackOneill]

as soon as they release the BSG Galactica, ill be using your code on Eaglemoss! And only if they could make a model of the USAF Daedalus...

[@lukerope1906]

Still not the original TOS design. It's definitely not a bad design. Just doesn't fit the established canon. Though it could have. If they pushed the timeline forward and made it a proto-refit it would totally fit into the canon TOS aesthetic. --EDIT-- Actually this does fit pretty well into the TOS aesthetic. I just don't how it can fit into the Prime timeline.

[@NihilusShadow]

"Canon" isn't a word in the Discovery team's vocabulary.

[@giftheck]

The only way I think it could be fit is to go with a 'partial visual reboot' - this is supposed to be the Enterprise at it was in The Cage but it gets refitted before Kirk gets it. Of course... the issue with that is how big the ship is... and there's been no figure yet, but Discovery is bigger than a Galaxy class, and the Enterprise seemed to be to the same scale.

[@FLAME4564]

well most parts of this design did tie in ties to the nx and the refit connie.

[@andycblack]

I think this is intended as a total visual reboot; in this Discovery version of the prime timeline this is what the Enterprise will look like in 10 years when Kirk takes command.

[@lukerope1906]

Kurious Oranj if Discovery is indeed intend to be a visual reboot of the prime time.......then it can@#$%@!@#$%&#@!!##&#😠 For all its faults at least the JJ Trek had the sense the leave the prime timeline

[@s.jamessavell6995]

Have you compared it to the star trek movie or enterprise a version?

[@johnthemachine]

yessss i was praying eaglemoss would do it

[@Knightfang1]

the wide flat impulse module reminds me of the Excelsior from above, the rest of the proportions look similar to the motion picture refit connie. overall i like this one, I agree this is much better re-imagining than the JJ Prise

[@thedevastator1994]

actually the ship doesn't look really upcaled, in the area of the "3 spotlights" on the bridge module, the TOS connie's windows in that area have different height position, suggesting different scale

[@Trekyardswebseries]

Pandam0nium The problem is that it is upscaled. The producers have said so themselves. To bring the ship more in line with Discovery and other ships we have seen in season 1. Sad but true.

[@thedevastator1994]

well, yeah it kinda sucks...but i also read about the old TOS Connie's design that was also influenced by production needs, the actual look itself included, that Gene actually aimed for the TMP look as soon as he conceived Star Trek, but the show's budget at the time wouldn't be enough. The fact that as soon as better budget arrived (with the arrival of the TMP movie) the first thing that had been redone was the looks of the Connie, while other designs (like Klingon ships and so on) were gradually adapted overtime may direct to that. That being said, i agree with you that Discovery could have fared better in a Post Nemesis story, expecially when dealing with freedom on design...but CBS / Paramount, plus the Novels side all handling different parts of the trek License would have been a nightmare to place new Trek Media on, do you think that the fact the License is handled this way would be a big issue from now on for Discovery and everything happening next?

[@chrissonofpear3657]

Do they say any percentage of upscaling?

[@helratz9627]

Have you guys thought about doing any ships from the SyFy series "The Expanse" for "Fleetyards"?

[@detpackman]

my only pet peeves with this design is the impulse placement and the pylons the rest of it is acceptable to me though i would remove the tapering to the nacelles but thats minor

[@kenmdem]

Discovery Enterprise deck 1 is 60ft across. While TOS Enterprise deck 1 is 46ft and it bridge is 21ft across all around from wall to wall.

[@RotalHenricsson]

(Preface: as a redesign, i love this Constitution, i just won't accept it as a TOS- or Cage-era version.) I'll never be a fan of the upsizing; it just seems silly to me. But i'd be significantly less against it on purely aesthetic terms if they started to actually DESIGN them at their size instead of just bloating normal-sized hulls up... the STD Constitution has few flaws in my book, most of them nitpicks, but god damnit that thing was not meant to be Kelvin-sized.

[@johngibson4882]

Be advised. This eaglemoss store doesn't seem to ship to Canada.

[@Benjamin0119]

Wow I can't believe you guys admitted it was ok to change something, the self-illumination, because of the budget of the 60s show! :D Yes it's almost as if things would looked much more realistic had they had the money!

[@darthkurland]

USS Enterprise NCC-1701 Original Design by Matt Jefferies Updated Design by John Eaves “Star Trek” Created by Gene Roddenberry “Star Trek: Discovery” Created by Bryan Fuller & Alex Kurtzman (C) 1966, 2018 CBS Studios

[@Jack_Stafford]

Star Trek RIP, 2019

[@xheralt]

Discovery itself and Shinzhou should have followed the same basic design guildelines.

[@colanitower]

Discovery is of a limited experimental ship class. Most other ships follow the same modular design philosophy, enabling Starfleet to produce many different ship classes using standard components.

[@colanitower]

Lady Wanderer The Enterprise saucer looks almost the same as the saucer of the Shepard-class USS Gagarin. Gagarin as a 'flatboat' has a simple drive section bolted onto the back of the saucer, Enterprise has the long-endurance 'tall ship' configuration and good old sturdy nacelles. Looks different, but in the saucer much can be the same on both ships.

[@Jack_Stafford]

There is a problem with the nacelle details. These starboard has a black band that lines up with the Gap in the pylons, and the port engine that same black stripe lines up with the rearward part of the pylon. ( And all those large lights on the front looked pretty clearly in the show to be windows with light shining onyo the registry, not lighting it specifically.)

[@orinokonx01]

Trekyards unofficial 3D model of the DSC Enterprise in 3... 2... 1...! :D

[@positronicfeed]

I want that Enterprise, I want that Gagarin and I want that Europa.

[@scifience8297]

please do the argo shuttle and sentinel class (FASA) and for Fleetyards please do the Resurgent Star Destroyer (Star Wars)

[@SGUDistantHope]

Will do! lol ^.^

[@gaetanbard102]

Are they going to blow are mind with the bridge of this new iconic ship. It's beautiful but don't have the grandure of the One.

[@Carwyn.Morris]

I just noticed the Bussards are actually angled back slightly and that bridge dome is bigger than the shuttle bay. It's just a lovely looking thing.

[@Jack_Stafford]

Carwyn Morris excellent point comparing the bridge to the shuttlebay... That will need to be addressed!

[@chrissonofpear3657]

Seems odd. Lot of space needed in the latter.

[@captianjessie1]

The 3 lights around tue bridge serm closer for tur era 2220's or 2230's then the 2240's and 2250's

[@David_J.E.]

Oh dudes! Grats on the advertising deal with Eaglemoss! I was wondering when that would happen. :)

[@davidlucyjt]

Still sucks... STD Breaks my heart.

[@-dvmakesdo1780]

Idk looks a lot like a refit and a Connie kit bashed together better suited as a test ship during phase II or a step on the way to the phase II upgrades. Far more faithful than I thought they would do but of all their designs this one I could actually see flying around in the original series timeframe kind of the way axanar felt.

[@zfoxfire]

Dee Vee what is a connie kit? I've seen this word thrown around but haven't found a definition

[@-dvmakesdo1780]

It's a model kit, back when they used physical models people would mix the model kits together making kit bashes or in other words made up new ships overtime its applied to all mix and match ships

[@josephmcconnell8905]

I dig it. Definitely better than the JJprise, but I think I prefer the JJ-A

[@eXcommunicate1979]

I just wish it was brighter.

[@S1nwar]

why doesnt this show up in the feed?

[@Trekyardswebseries]

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[@jamiecashes]

What do you guys think of the captain Pike fan film? Looks interesting to say the least. also, do you know when season one of discovery will be released on DVD/Blu Ray

[@hackel137]

Are the nacelles actually ovular? Why do they look so much more tall than wide in these images? The width seems proportional with the saucer, but they are just way too thick vertically.

[@jamiecashes]

Looks like the original motion picture Enterprise, but stainless steel

[@tech83studio38]

It was a legal decision to redesign the constitution class.

[@pinoi78]

VERY nice.

[@lukerope1906]

It does look a lot like John Eaves NX-01 concept.

[@c4blew]

I was thinking the same, although I prefer the NX-01 concept over this one.

[@jackfraser1807]

I reaaaally want to see their reasoning for how this is going to fit into DSC's universe. I mean they spent an entire season trying to stand apart from existing Trek material and then suddenly throw in something that is very TOS and very different from DSC Fed ships. I would have a lot more respect for the show if they were more consistent and confident in their own material.

[@andycblack]

I mostly like this design, it certainly could have been a lot worse (JJ-Prise). I’m not a fan of the Excelsior style design on the rear of the saucer, but from the side elevation is does appear to only be surface markings. Also I don’t like how fat the front of the nacelles are, and I don’t like their tapered design. But on the positive side I like how sleek and powerful it looks. It also looks like a more practical precursor to the movie era refit design.

[@CaptainM792]

So Starfleet refitted the Enterprise twice.

[@wmiller2811]

Nice. I do think that it looks slightly squashed, though.

[@TahoeTime4457]

The Enterprise is bigger. "We know for a fact that that's the case" - No we don't. The ship is NOT upscaled as big as you're saying. There's so much misinformation flying around and a few conspiracies (midnight's edge) that should be ignored. Fact: In 2005, Viacom divided into CBS Corporation, whose CBS Television Studios subsidiary retained the Star Trek License, and Viacom, whose Paramount Pictures subsidiary retained the Star Trek film library. A deal was made between CBS and Paramount Pictures to allow Paramount to have an Alternate Star Trek License, (As opposed to CBS's Original Star Trek License) so that they could make movies. Everything used in the New License has to be different enough as to not conflict with the original license. The reason everything in CBS's Star Trek Discovery appears different, is NOT because they are legally obligated by the "new license". The new license wasn't for them. it was exclusively for Paramount Pictures That's it. Those are the facts. Go verify it. Stop spreading misinformation. My guess is that the updates are just a visual reboot.

[@arcticdragon3565]

Watching at the begining 0:36, and it just poped in my head, the USS Discovery is way too flat. Should have taller neck. Maybe do something with the engines. Thats my problem with Discovery ships, they are almost good. They just need to change 1 or 2 things. (Usually)

[@MASSTERCAM]

Hmmm, at this point who cares if there is a window at the bridge ? I mean all other details are different. Its different, its bigger, if it has a window, ok. It would fit into STD canon.

[@andycblack]

Whilst I’m not a fan of the Discovery redesign I do think that they should use the design style they have now established for this visual reboot Enterprise. A Windows not a main view screen, that’s the way it is in the Discovery version of the prime timeline...

[@cwallacefilms]

Does Playmates still make Trek toys?

[@jak-crow]

These ship sizes are ridiculous.

[@giftheck]

If the next series is supposed to tie Disovery to canon, then when exactly will they say how big the ship is? Discovery is supposed to be even bigger than a Galaxy class, and the Enterprise is clearly to the same scale so one of the sizes, Enterprise or Discovery, needs to be retconned. If they retcon Enterprise's size, then it's not canon.

[@chrissonofpear3657]

Well the Discovery is definitely very LONG, but not huge in all dimensions.

[@TheDjbz]

The Enterprise's "canon" size seems really small for the amount of crew it had to me. Especially if they were supposed to be on a 5 year mission before replicatiors were a thing. The amount of supplies they'd have to take with them would be enormous for a 400 person crew.