Triforce! #78 - Vietnam, Smiley Face, lol

Triforce! Episode 78! Pyrion addresses last episode, Lewis reads some writing prompts and Sips is back in Vietnam!
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[@DoughnutDude]

Guys... I feel spoilt with this consistency.

[@HerohammerStudios]

Don't fucking jinx it!

[@kingkuma4112]

The longer you guys keep this run up, the more hostile the reaction will be when you miss one. Don't miss it.

[@kingkuma4112]

Russel Brand has figured out how the caramel goes into the snickers bar.

[@nucleargoat6007]

Sha nay nay

[@sectorum]

damn, you've got to have been around for a while to get this one lol

[@dementedchikenjc]

do dodo dooooo

[@rumor7055]

Adolf Hitler grandpa Adolf your alive

[@sectorum]

@@rumor7055 he's been in the Hanz tent all this time

[@DoughnutDude]

Triforce > Russel Brand podcast

[@lukemilan82]

i loved Lewis's rambling made up story... WITH THE BLACKNESS OF A THOUSAND NIGHTS!!!

[@sectorum]

So Pyrion's got the Bodega series... time for Lewis' Peter Death series?

[@xenophyte]

holy balls! the consistency of uploads is unreal. i'm not used to such luxury

[@sharcc2511]

"I dont listen to any other podcasters" -Lewis "Yeah I listen to Russel" -Also Lewis, about a minute later.

[@purplpengy12]

When I was still a baby my dad used to have really long hair and a beard. So a jahovahs witness knocked on the door and they go into the pitch and my dad being my dad says to them “we worship the devil here!” In a gravely voice.

[@FyberOptic]

It's sad that people forget the Korean war. My great uncle (my maternal grandfather's brother) was drafted into it when he was barely like 20 years old. The story we always heard was that he had been blown up by a grenade, and his body wasn't recovered. Well in the 90's, after my grandfather had died, the government contacted us to say that documents had been recovered (in fact, had been sitting in a filing cabinet for decades and essentially forgotten, as the government had basically wanted everyone to do about that war, apparently) and they found that he had not died when previously assumed. A man had kept a list of P.O.W.s in a roll of toothpaste, at great personal risk (he had apparently been beaten himself for such things previously), and my great uncle's name and serial number and stuff was on that list. He was captured during an ambush and forced on the Tiger Death March (a long walk of prisoners across North Korea, in the winter, where many were executed along the way for random reasons by a maniacal Korean general known as "The Tiger"), eventually ending up in this prison camp. He wasn't listed as having died of wounds or anything, however, which implies that he died being executed in some manner. Keep in mind that my grandfather on that side of the family came from a large family of boys. Tall, Tennessee country boys, who didn't take shit, if my grandfather was any indication (he himself served in WW2). I would like to think that my great uncle gave one of those North Koreans a fat lip, maybe taking up for some other guy, and they killed him for it. I'm just glad my grandfather never knew the truth, because a quick unexpected death, rather than a prolonged and miserable captivity, is probably easier to swallow. Unfortunately, due to how DNA works, we don't know of a living relative who can offer a sample to make a match. So there still isn't a proper grave for him. All we know of is a memorial to M.I.A.s in Hawaii. I'm posting his story here, or anywhere that such topics come up, because we shouldn't forget such wars (or the people lost in them) just because it embarrasses the American government. I researched this entire thing thoroughly after I found out, because my great uncle at least deserves that much. I may be the only relative who has ever explored his fate.

[@KurtCobain94677]

I am Dave Yognaught, and i have the balls.

[@alexbutler9442]

*!

[@RichardCox0]

god i wish i had the balls

[@Mallow]

forgot the exclamation mark

[@KurtCobain94677]

I sir, do not care.

[@RudeDudeMikeTMTheRudeDudes]

@@KurtCobain94677 then I'm sorry to say but you do not have the balls

[@TheEarlThePearl1]

LEWIS KEEP READING OATHBRINGER!!!! It has arguably the best climax in literary history. It’s definitely a bit of s slog to get through for most of it.

[@Liamneedham29]

So, I grew up a Jehovahs Witness, never baptised because its by choice when your old enough. Lewis is exactly right, it is vulnerable people who buy into it. My grandad (mothers dad) used to be a violent smoker, and my grandma (mothers mum) was approached by Jehovahs Witnesses (I think it was my Great Grandma on my dads side who met with her, but it was before my mother was born). She started having bible studies, went to the meetings, took her kids, and brought them up as Jehovahs Witnesses. Eventually, Grandad started going, and now he is the freindliest, most charismatic person there is, always used to bring bags of sweets to the meetings and hand them out to people (mainly for the kids but everyone got one), always helping people out with DIY and stuff. People who are vulnerable are the ones drawn in by it, but often for a good reason. Having a faith to occupy the worries we bog ourselves down with, a strict moral code, a community of freindly people. For some its exactly what they need. What I was always told growing up, was that one day Armageddon would come (not based on everybody hearing the word of God as one of the triangles said, just a time that God decides) and when it comes, the ones following Gods word are saved, and many will try to repent but it will be too late. Then the 144000 who have their place in heaven will go to heaven, and the rest who survived armageddon will be on a paradise earth. We actually had a really old lady in our meetings who was supposedly one of the 144000, and i think the criterea is that you commit yourself fully to Gods word, to the extent of leaving your family and all worldly possessions if the time came. As I learned about science I started to become cynical but having grown up as a Jehovahs Witness I can see why people need that in their lives. Jehovahs Witnesses are always smiley, but thats partly because they pride themselves on being good people, partly because they are happy because of their community and partly because they believe the work they are doing is bringing good to an otherwise satanic world.

[@marchhare5868]

What do you mean when you say violent smoker? Was he violent and a smoker? Or as in he was an uncontrollable smoker?

[@Liamneedham29]

March Hare haha, Violent and a smoker, though im sure uncontrollable smoker applies too.

[@greennin]

"as one of the triangles said". you made me laugh out loud.

[@danthemaninapan]

Out of curiosity, has your experience put you off Christianity totally? (As in, would you still consider the possibility that Jesus existed, and look at what the Bible says, rather than Jehovah's witness teaching?) I think it's remarkable that after 2000 years, not a single piece of science has contradicted (Bible-based) Christianity, but Christians have come up with their own utterly nutty, non-Jesus stuff, such as the Catholic Church's Pope and purgatory. I presume there's quite a lot of this sort of thing amongst the Jehovah's witnesses, but I'm not familiar with what they teach.

[@Liamneedham29]

Fluffy Camel Just knowing science made me sceptical about the existence of god. As it happens i do still believe in god (rather the possibility of the existence of a deity, even if just a part of the human psychology), and even when im unsure of what to make of some aspect of my life (feelings, desires, etc.) I pray. Its not religious for me, just a way to understand my thoughts better, and perhaps is why prayer and religions even exist - to give the human brain a way to visualise the concepts of the world they cannot grasp. I think christianity is a good thing. I think religions are a good thing. They have their problems when people cannot accept that belief is a personal thing, and shouldnt be an ideology beyond a community (shouldnt recruit the world to following, just let people hear and then make up their own minds about whether they want religion in their lives). I think jesus did exist. I think he probably was able to perform feats beyond what people understood, akin to magicians or rocket scientists. Jehovahs witnesses teach pretty much the same as christians except for there is no hell - just heaven for the 144000 and paradise for everyone who isnt deemed wicked beyond reproach (and that when armageddon comes even someone as evil as like hitler would have their chance to repent and it would be based on the condition of their heart). The wicked are just destroyed. They also teach that the trinity doesnt exist. God is the father, Jesus is the son and the Holy spirit is a seperate thing altogether. Like i say, i got cynical when i took an interest in science, but ive always held the view that human knowledge is limited and even our most basic understandings of the universe could at any point be disproven, so there is always the possibility that god could exist. We just cant know. Thats why its belief.

[@badw01f23]

the funny thing is that alot of Christians think that the "you're going to hell!" preacher's are stupid too. You don't know, nor should you assume someone's spiritual status. The idea is to save people, not scare them away and seed resent in their heart.

[@gabrielvalencia7647]

I second this. I also cringe at "preachers"

[@Skyscraper125]

I third this! Bump! :P

[@timothyhawken9266]

I cringed a lot when Lewis gave the assumption that christians think preaching is the best way to spread the word but most of the church has realised that no one likes to hear you on the street. That is why churches have started a different approach of walking with people instead. Lewis May need to work on his grouping a bit more to not make bad assumptions

[@orinthorax]

@@timothyhawken9266 I'm sure the church is trying new things, but there are more Street Preachers than people that will walk with you, so it's a pretty accurate assumption

[@timothyhawken9266]

paul smyth. I guess that I do not see many street preachers because I live in wollongong in Australia so I may not see as many as in the uk. By ‘walking’ I meant the people who keep talking to you when you go through a faith journey. The metaphor of walking as going with them. But I am still sure about lewis being too stereotypical and making a complete baffoon of himself while offending people

[@AJxB]

Great episode guys! I loved the part at the end where they talk about that one thing

[@Wolfencreek]

I propose we create a cult with Pflax at the head. The only tenet is that you have to play DOTA and if you play with Pflax you gotta let him win.

[@marksmyth8687]

Tenet* I know it seems grammar Nazi but it bothered me

[@caolandlalt]

The triforce are uploading consistently... there is some thing fishy going on here.

[@kingkuma4112]

They sacrificed zylus to the sun god in order to keep their podcast going.z

[@AStrategyGameDev]

I dislike all organized religions. but I have nothing against the people in them. The important dinstinction between organized religion and just spiritualism or paganism, is that organized religion has a power structure and is almost run like a company, Organized religions also have their hands in politics and are very prone to corruption because of all the influence they wield. They also awnser to no one. On the philosophical level I dislike them because they discourage freedom of tought. They claim to provide all the awnsers to your problems. And will also encourage you to externalize your problems, rather then trying to face them or improve yourself, as that is a much less attractive option, and organized religions generally want as many followers as possible. I also feel like they discourage personal growth or development. As rather than ponder the world and its many scientific mysteries. The truth is already there and its all been written for you. Dont worrie your pretty little head, just keep praying and it will all be ok. Anger outbursts? Why see a psychologist and learn about yourself, when you could just pray. Medical problems? Pray. Sex problems? SINNER WE BEAT YOU NOW. What im trying to say is that when you buy into such religions you take away a lot of your own "willpower" you are no longer guided by your own mind and your own instincts you are now a puppet in a puppet show. Any success is not yours. Failures? they are not your own either. Why thirst for knowledge or try and get the most out of your life, when there is an afterlife? This was more of a ramble then I had hoped. No offense if you are very religious, just dont forget to be critical and not take anything for granted always do your own research, take control of your own life, only you have you own best intentions at heart

[@gar4206]

Korea was more like a 4 parter. Part 1: North Korea attacks and the south is unprepared and gets pushed back almost to Pusan. Part 2: UN and NATO comes in and sends a shit ton of troops to aid the south and they manege to push the north back to the Chinese border. Part 3: China after finally kicking the Kuomintang's ass comes in and floods Korea with the PLA and push the UN past the 38th parallel. Part 4 UN sends more soldiers and it stabilizes where the DMZ is today and an armistice is signed.

[@Whoisthistho]

Christian people don't look for God's favour, they look to be in relationship with God. The Bible doesn't say "you must go out and tell people about God". It isn't a biblical law 🤷🏼‍♂️ to be a Christian is to believe in jesus, we don't need to do anything to be i heaven, but if you really love God you want to be in relation with him, you want to tell people about how much he loves us. People that Preach fear mongering I don't agree with, to Preach out of fear of hell is wrong and isn't what the bible teaches

[@firefaux64]

My uncle was 19 when he was drafted into the Air Force to fight in Vietnam. My dad was 10 at the time, and their father (who was wounded in Europe in WW2) had already died. Shortly after my uncle left, their mom died, forcing my dad to ride 600 miles on a bus from Indiana to Alabama to live with his aunt and their 3 sons. My uncle came back hopelessly addicted to any drugs or alcohol he could find, but managed to work at Whirlpool as an engineer for around 20 years. Just thought I'd share the story if anyone was interested.

[@Socius-]

DVAMP Damn..

[@LuciousLoire]

On the topic of the Vietnam war, the U.S recruited local tribesmen; unaffiliated with the Vietnamese, to help fight in their war. With the promise that if the U.S would to lose this war, they were to find new homes for the tribesmen in their country or allies. When the U.S retreated many of the tribesmen were slaughtered, abandoned, and fled into Thailand as refugees.

[@CompanionProduction]

Lewis been watching those ted talks about the Nigerian prince scams

[@zacchaeus8912]

Tenpenny Welcome to my stupid fucking journey

[@craniumbear]

The Mormon rant in the previous cast was hilarious!

[@kohp111]

About time for a three month break, don't you think?

[@gnarwhale]

I'm almost getting tired of commenting about the consistency each week!

[@Ethan-dp8ze]

Am I the only one who had to pause and laugh for a good 5 minutes and Pyrion as Death As Sylvester Stallone 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😃

[@joecatt2811]

Don’t know if PFlax is a theatre man but they recently turned The curious incident into a play and it was actually really well done

[@WillyMacShow]

I’ll tell you the difference between the Korean and Vietnam war... no draft in the Korean

[@SirMetalKing]

Lewis, you worked for the Chelmsford Cathedral? Wow, that's awesome. I loved the Cathedral there. Have you been back to Chelmsford since it became a city? The newly built Bond Street is really nice.

[@kingkuma4112]

I submitted my own ending to the "death's hourglass" prompt to pyrion's twitter, I hope he enjoys it.

[@wowiexist9875]

"They're generally positive, very nice people" Mmm, those weren't my exact thoughts when my parents found out I was gay. Generally all my experiences with christians have been negative. For people that are meant to be very kind and caring, they sure don't like it when they find out your different to them in any way.

[@rudgefeist2366]

The Vietnam Documentaries are good ones

[@kedranhust1693]

this podcast keeps me going

[@flameconvoy7424]

The intense music when Lewis was reading the stories was amazing, props to the editor

[@HodorGamingTV]

Half way through you guys talking about the auto responses in Gmail I got an ad for Mei which is a crazy ai texting app or some shit. You guys should check it out and talk about it the next podcast.

[@CRACKALACKASHANG]

I'd say things such as Mormonism (which IS a valid branch of Christianity) Latter Day Saints, Baptists, Protestants, Methodists, even Catholics are are sub sets of Christianity just like how Shia and Shi ite are different branches of Islam. Some of the beliefs are different and that's what distinguishes the different sub groups. Scientology is a cult, cults are religion based systematically. But Mormons aren't a cult and the term "Morman" certainly isn't a slur... I love this podcast

[@PJBxx]

the incredibly popular show M*A S*H was about the Korean War, but a lot of people seem to think it was actually supposed to be about the Vietnam War, "but they had to change it because it was so controversial." Like, no guys, believe it or not the Korean War was actually worth talking about. But it really does just kind of get ignored.

[@CRACKALACKASHANG]

People come to your doors Bec Jesus wanted Christian's to spread the word of God which is basically "treat people well and be a good person" the afterlife of heaven was promised as a reward for being good in life. But it really shouldn't be used to fear monger people into conversion which is EXACTLY what Jesus stood against. The original teachings of Christ have been taken and changed over many years to what they are today. So you guys aren't wrong, Sips people do bait other into their religions to boost numbers and make themselves look good and get into heaven. But that's missing the whole point of being a good human being.

[@olliechambers5319]

Lewis...wtf if your new channel called where you play new games??? Stop plugging products and start plugging your channel. ;)

[@fringedwig4670]

love that little edit

[@kellyt5007]

Pyrion! I am a relaxed, nondenominational Christian. I do not speak for all.. You assume that all religious people have the same driving force behind why they share their personal truth. What about those of us who take the bible- and other religious texts- as simply a guideline for the way we live? I share my truth, when prompted to do so, simply because I want to share the love and the joy it has brought me, not because I follow every damn word of this religious text like it's my goal to end all life on Earth.

[@daemonbane1]

That hour glass first one isn't actually terrible, its by no means the best, but Lewis really got caught up on the first couple of lines being mistyped\the writer not knowing how to start As a result he personally wrote-off the whole story, and then told it to Sips\Pyrion with none of the (somewhat important) grammar and implied feeling. It disappointed me that Lewis being unable to read the way the writer intended, also caused the other 2 to judge without reading themselves (and probably to in future avoid what can on occasion be a pretty good place to find interesting and inspired short stories.)

[@DarkAlleyDan]

What the fuck it's almost like there's too much Triforce, you guys are getting consistent like Taxes... Also - Pyrion, you were almost entirely right last Podcast!

[@jackholt2364]

Yeah but the Americans never lost a major conflict which saw them suffer a massive defeat, which is why it's argued that in the Vietnam War there were no winners. While the French lost one major battle which had cost them massively, the Battle of Dien Bien Phu. Where French lost 2,000. My personal opinion is that there were no winners under that evidence.

[@jimtrusselberry6536]

People like me who believe in Ultimate Reconciliation essentially that everyone will go to Heaven because they will meet God and who when given the opportunity to meet God would reject him. We proselytize not because of some vague reward of Heaven, but instead because our personal experience here on earth has been improved majorly by Christianity and Christ. Hell has been preached predominately by the church for far too long. There is so much more to Christianity than just the after life. We have genuine concern for people and desire to bring into their life a better way to live. This is my own personal belief but it might help to clear up why Christians proselytize that is not based in selfishness.

[@mattbidgood851]

Fucking hell. I’m a Baptist and I’ve got shit tonnes of Anglican friends. No one ever gets offended by being called Christian lmao. People need to stop getting offended so fucking easily

[@PeeHooo]

Noway, 6 in a row now! Who is holding you as hostage? Please say "I have small dick" three times a row in next episode if you're in trouble.

[@Zumwar]

That last story made me laugh so hard.

[@PowersOfDarkness]

south korea is rich because it being so was advantageous to the US, if not for their geographical and geopolitical position they would be doing as well as any other country in the global south i dont think it justifies the genocide and war just to force an economic model on the people, which only had such achievements through brunt force action, like state backed monopolies and tons of foreign funding sovereignty is much more valuable than economic aid from the US, and its even more valuable when you consider the death an destruction needed to make that trade

[@WaterCarrier07]

Shit me my balls tingled and wouldn’t you know there’s a podcast! Bless you boys there’s a place for you in heaven

[@jmjedi923]

If you look at the pictures from the air for the Korean war, you can see a lot of glowing lines in dirt, those are machine gun barrels from the allies because there were SO MANY Chinese fighting them

[@Lucash090688]

BOOK = wheel of time...........the slog is real but what a series the audio book is fantastic, at least that is what i think.

[@a_e_hilton]

Pyrion and Sips calling emojis "smiley faces" XD

[@abergethirty]

Anyone know what happened to the rss feed? I only subscribe to know if there is a new episode then listen on podcast addict on my phone.

[@justing7909]

Lewis's death story got me so bad. I was very laughing in my car.

[@CandyKoRn]

Not religious at all, but the mormons do a lot of good work, from what's i've seen.

[@dragonmind64]

Holy shit, I want to listen to our Lebanese boi narrate more stories plz... lol :D

[@charlesmanary2936]

As an autistic person; Dog in the Nighttime is the most boring book i've ever read

[@Skelldr]

At least people writes, learns and gets better. If people enjoy it just let them write.

[@Thunderdumpe]

I don't hate christians, some of my best friends are christians..

[@timblack2760]

Whoops I just posted this from the wrong account. nothing to see here.

[@davidball7111]

A glowing man in the sky is not how religious people think of God.

[@mamulju]

fell asleep typing this but can we please get a full reading of the reddit story

[@elmo56781]

So...much...consistency....😍 keep it up guys❤

[@Shtoops]

From 31:50 on Pyrion is basically just describing the anime "Cells at Work" which is just hilarious. Nice job Pyrion. I bet he secretly watches it.

[@tomadamo3226]

"I've figured it out"

[@vrostar]

That fucking ending was legendary hahah

[@Crokto]

Unsong is really goooood. idk. There's a subreddit, /r/rational, lots of great (and some pretty bad) writing. At least I think. I'm not a super critical reader, as long as the writing's not like, objectionable like the stuff Lewis was reading. But those stories have just the best worldbuilding and characters, and a few of them (in particular alexander wales) have fkn fantastic dialogue. Not realistic, but real good.

[@rflxPoint]

Read Garth Nix's Old Kingdom series if you want a great semi-modern fantasy. Start with Sabriel, Lireal, Abhorsen, Goldenhand, then Clariel.

[@borisstojiljkovic8890]

14:45 Pyrion talks about communism.

[@rubenbohm3429]

Wait a second, did Lewis say he was disappointed with Brandon Sanderson’s Oathbringer? Personally I thought it was incredible, perhaps not the best in the current trilogy, but nevertheless high quality.

[@spicypenguin6022]

Lewis you should watch Frank Herbert’s Dune

[@spicypenguin6022]

Read not watch mmmm good grammar

[@brandoncalder7585]

What about spirituality, theological understanding, religions that don't have an afterlife, i don't think there is an afterlife, I feel their isn't a human esque god, but I do think their pragmatically needs to be a superordinate structure: a logos. On top of that their is a deep psychological value to the collection of religious and spiritual study, see the esoteric studies then used by psychoanalysts, the value isn't fundamental but analogical.

[@davidball7111]

Writing prompts is a garbage subreddit.

[@alecdewell1929]

Complaining about the poor quality writing on reddit is like complaining that division 3 football is poor quality. Reddit is hardly where English lit professors hang out!

[@TylerYoutubeGamingChannel]

This is one of my favorite episodes for some reason

[@Christian-Fig]

wats going on with bodaga????????

[@waahaah861]

Im not protestant im calvinist, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

[@siuolreklov4957]

I love how every time I watch these podcasts an anime trailer starts playing.

[@abehurwitz8861]

I want to see the Peter Death story animated lol

[@smaewo22]

The hourglass belonged to Gazza

[@bwood6337]

I don't know if it's actually good, I liked it at the time, but didn't Lewis read a small story he wrote on the yogpod at one point? I think it was based off wow or somthing but that could be complete bull shit.

[@ST-vt4nu]

I was just eating my grilled cheese and sips starts to talk about snot.. and ofcourse they continue.. thanks for ruining my delicious grilled cheese mates!

[@SkeletonInATrenchCoat]

Pyrion Flax: "If you enjoy it, just do it. But if it's on the internet, I'm going to flame it." I can't think of a better description of people on the internet. XD

[@bryarrose7133]

Grew up in the American South and didn't even hear about the Korean War until well into college...and it wasn't from the college.

[@friendlyfire10]

It's time for me to live up to my family name and face FULL LIFE CONSEQUENCES

[@MultiMissionman]

Regular uploads of Triforce are a blessing upon this wretched world

[@aidanallen458]

Who would win, an intense drought with an incredible lack of water, or some spiky CAM bois at nighttime?

[@Smithlord]

Flax didn't even mention the AIDS frog! Does he even Mormon though?

[@CrimzonGhostz]

I recently found writing prompts on reddit as well and usually theyre pretty good, never heard anything as bad as that though xD

[@Meximagician]

40:24 In fairness, that kinda _did_ happen (unofficially) during the Christmas truce of WWI.

[@tunakann7629]

Politics & religion? How does this have such a good like ratio XD

[@benny802]

Fuck me, keep em’ coming lads

[@BradleyParkerbrad676]

i read that scam emails are spelt incorrectly so people dont report them, if it looks really real and dangerous you would report it but if you think "no one could ever fall for this" you wouldnt bother

[@Thorwar]

he takes a look at the hourglass but its unmarked and an investigation and found out it was his and the reason he became death was that the previous death had lost one and was killed by a magical bound and so when he died from old he became death its self, BAM done

[@ij5934]

These come out every week on the day of my 9pm coursework deadline. After I've been stuck in labs all day these lads keep me sane on my walk home!

[@davidball7111]

Maybe genital mutilation and saints are not in the same basket. Also yes, sips mankind is corrupt. And even the best ideas can be twisted.

[@Lone-Traveler]

sips you should play warframe if you want a grindy fun game

[@MrEvers]

In Belgian Dutch the name of Death is actual "Pietje de Dood", which would translate as "Pete Death"