Triumph Speed 400 vs Royal Enfield Guerrilla 450: Which Is Better?

[@DouglasRosser]

No matter which you choose, thank you India for building great motorcycles we can afford.

[@DAB009]

thank you the world for buying them ❤❤

[@ThunderApache]

Appreciated.

[@srinu20040303]

Thank you for the appreciation.

[@omCARvlog]

Both are much cheaper here

[@gpw203]

For now, because once they have repeated history by destroying their competition, like the Japanese did to the european manufacturers the prices will once rise again to unaffordable levels!!

[@wozza59]

Earlier during the year I put a deposit on the 400X to make sure I got the next 400X that arrived at the dealership. However, a few days later I managed to test ride the 400X. On the particular bike I rode I didn’t like the vibes and neither did I like the feel of the gearbox when going down through the gears, so I cancelled my order. I now have a Guerrilla, and I’m really happy with my purchase.

[@levigato125]

I sold my Speed 400 with less than 200 miles because I didn’t like the gear box, and first gear was worthless. You couldn’t even go through an intersection without having to shift into 2nd. I ordered one without a test ride because they just came out in the US. I would say everything else on the bike was top notch, fit and finish.

[@olddirtbiker5088]

@@levigato125 The fix for that is to change to a one tooth larger front sprocket. I did that on my Scrambler 400X, easy job and brings the revs down a bit at cruise speeds.

[@Northernbiker64]

I suspect the residual value of the Triumph will be stronger than the RE. Obviously a consideration if you plan on changing your bike.

[@MotoRiderTube]

The Triumph looks like a modern bike designed to look classic, while the Enfield looks like an old bike designed to look modern. I'd take the Triumph.

[@Selva_Investments]

Never in my life, I thought two indian made motocycles were compared with one another in a top KZbin channel❤

[@903lew]

Good bikes at fair prices will always come through. Indians get motorbiking, it’s still a passion and not just a hobby there.

[@aono335]

I’m gonna disagree with these guys for the first time 😅. The Guerilla felt way more engaging than the speed400. The gear ratio on the triumph was just not it having driven these two back to back.

[@glynntipper9354]

The centre stand and longer front mudguard, guard on the radiator, sold the Guerilla for me plus you can reset the service light yourself.

[@903lew]

RE builds bikes for people who ride a lot because they have to. Triumph builds mainly for people who could take the car. All those things you mention are huge pluses for me and a sign that RE still get their customer.

[@davidkeppler56]

Royal Enfield for me, as I have an irrational dislike of the cutouts in the Triumphs tank😊.

[@DiogenesOfCa]

Don't like the cutouts or the gold forks. I have sat on one and it was comfortable for me and I am 6 feet tall.

[@kevinvarley9234]

I can't handle the exposed frame directly under the tank on the RE. As bikers we can claim the right to be, Nuts 😅

[@Robin-iv1kc]

Royal Enfield = smiles per mile, and great value for money.

[@jimbecker6599]

My Personal Preferences Based on Experience and Practicality: (1. Chain on opposite side of the exhaust system. (2. Flatter seat to permit some fore and aft movement. (3. Proper fender lengths to contain spray and provide protection for engine and radiator. (4. Sufficient fuel capacity to cover 200 mile range. (5. Minimal high-rpm engine vibrations. (6. Available shim replacement tool (engine specific) to eliminate cam shaft removal for valve adjustments. (7. Standard center stand. (8. Tubeless tire rims. (9. And (dare I ask too much?) a belt drive system for those of us who hate prescribed chain maintenance. (Currently owned and self-maintained: KLX-230, FJR-1300, 1974 Kawasaki 900 Z1.)

[@FourIntoOne]

Fair overview. TBH I personally wouldn't buy either of them I would go for the Triumph 400X scrambler - more versatile in more applications IMHO

[@chrishart8548]

If you compare the 400x to the RE 450 the price difference is even bigger

[@ukvamp]

I'd go for the royal enfield because Triumph service costs are a joke!

[@MrThejunkman]

Do your own maintenance and only go in for the more "specialized" services and you will be fine, it isn't that crazy and the service intervals are much more spread out on the Triumph

[@landonfolken03]

​@@MrThejunkman yep!

[@keiththompson8289]

Both are great bike at this price, but what puts me off the Triumph are the palace like dealer premises that have to be payed for somehow, rather than the simple, low cost shop of the RE dealer here in Exeter. Buy whichever bike you like best, you'll not be dissapointed.

[@ianhalliwell8604]

RE everytime for me, the Guerilla is by far the more accomplished bike.

[@graemetaylor629]

how do you know that

[@chrishart8548]

I prefer the RE it's a better dash. More capacity. And RE is a one brand company. The triumph isn't really a triumph it's a TVS with a triumph badge. And the RE reminds me of a yamaha RD350LC for some reason.

[@ivanbrasla]

​@@chrishart8548The Speed 400 is actually made by Bajaj, but designed with Triumph

[@chrishart8548]

@ivanbrasla I know that. The design is obviously triumph.

[@nandadityaswami7452]

​@@chrishart8548triumph is not tvs Triumph is Bajaj and KTM

[@anthonybrown4874]

The centre stand, chain on opposite side to exhaust TFT screen and longer front mudguard fix a few of the Speeds failings but Triumph pulls it back with long mileage service intervals, extra fuel cspacity and theres a dealer in my city not so Enfield. Hard so choose really neither is perfect but pretty close with a few modifications. A few more colour choices might be nice for the Triumph and longer gearing, worst thing i have found owning one is the accesdories take an absolute age to arrive.

[@levigato125]

First gear is way too short

[@anthonybrown4874]

@levigato125 Top gear is too short the sprocket needs to go up a tooth 2nd is a set off gear ratio and that engine could easily cope st motorway speeds with another tooth.

[@maxviolin9]

Royal enfield has come a long way now.

[@sgtgrash]

If Triumph fitted twin clocks containing a small lcd display for fuel, gears, and time, I think the Speed 400 would be a no-brainer. As it stands, I'd go with the Enfield.

[@pggp273]

If you want a manufacturer that will honour the warranty go for the Enfield

[@benschofield7565]

Two cracking looking bikes. Fantastic choice to have.

[@aljoabsin6694]

Guerilla 450 for me

[@aromaticsnail]

I can see the relevance of comparing the two but the Guerrilla is anything but "retro-inspired". Also I'd argue that it's a Pro to have yet another screen on the Guerrilla. The analog-lcd combo on the Speed 400 is arguably the best for a no-frills motorcycle

[@Bryan11210]

I hate that the dial shows speed, and the rpms are a tiny bar on the lcd. Should be the other way around.

[@pravinmurthy]

Proud Triumph Speed 400 owner from past 16 months..

[@radarroi27]

The "tech" on the RE is as good as not having it. . . The navigation is nothing more than screen mirroring, I mean, you can just buy a mount and use the phone anyway. . .

[@richieclean]

Unless, of course, you prefer not to mount your phone. I personally would rather keep it safely in my pocket & keep the handlebars/instruments as free from clutter as possible.

[@Scape974]

And by doing so you add cost where you don't need to on a bike Wich already cost less than the triumph so 🤷

[@harshaggarwal7041]

yea plus in terms of tech the speed is similar if not better as it has engine immobiliser as well

[@cangaroojack]

I really hope that they figure out a way to update it so that the phone can remain locked, as of right now it's kinda useless tbh

[@radarroi27]

@@Scape974 a mobile mount is expensive for you 🙄?

[@robertspeicher5047]

Thank you. Nice compare video. Triumph...A touch of class. Enfield..A little " circus " look. I like Enfield bikes. Serioysly looking at the " Hym" 450.

[@prem8693]

I picked Gurellia 450 over truimp although it cost more than speed 400 here in India while both are manufactured here 1. That motor had a grunt of power delivery 2. Road presence it's an eye catcher 3. Royal Enfield service back up every where you go 4. Low seating position and comfortable 5. RE dealers are very friendly in assisting new customers and that made the big difference

[@delaguiar]

The Guerilla is cheaper than the speed 400 here in India. Correct?

[@prem8693]

@delaguiar No it's rather opposite. Gurellia cost me much more than Speed 400 and also speed 400 started 10k discount on their bikes after Re450 enters into the segment

[@excelnnn]

Yes that’s what I think, Gurilla is bit expensive then Speed 400 here in India.

[@MrThejunkman]

VERY IMPORTANT FACT PEOPLE NEVER COVER: Triumph won't let you outright buy a service manual. You can rent them for absurd fees and probably just take screenshots of everything you want, but it's ridiculous. My Triumph also didn't come with Pirellis so I think it's based on availability or supply chain.

[@iansmith237]

Since when has this been the case? My Street Triple 765RS that I purchased in April most certainly came with a service manual.

[@MrThejunkman]

@@iansmith237 Did it come with a service manual or an owner's manual that just covers the most basic maintenance?

[@iansmith237]

@MrThejunkman both. I have the feeling that if yours didn't it's more a dealership issue.

[@MrThejunkman]

​@@iansmith237 You can look it up, people complain about it online.

[@MrThejunkman]

@@iansmith237 You can look it up, I have found posts as far back as 2016 with people complaining about Triumph no longer giving service manuals. Maybe it is an American market issue, I have no clue if you are in the states or not. I only received an owner's handbook and most people I find online say if you want the service manual, you gotta rent it from Triumph

[@robertmarsh3588]

Nice summary, as ever. That RE screen looks ok but overall, I don't understand your preference for TFTs on modern retros. The new one on the larger Triumph Speed Twin that has replaced the two gorgeous clocks has seriously dented my enthusiasm for the model.

[@Scape974]

Personally i prefer the RE dash just because it have navigation mirroring built in, Wich save cost. Plus I don't give a single f*ck about tachy I just watch my overall speed and ear the engine rev for gears change

[@davidemartorana4708]

In this case o prefer the Digital Dash becouse the Triumph does not have a round analogue revcounter. It only has an analogue Speedo which Is kind of irrilevant since i can read that but seeing the rev counter rise Is much more intuitive

[@chrishart8548]

​@davidemartorana4708 that's really weird I thought it was always digital speed and analogue tach. I hate that triumph dash anyway even more so now.

[@chrro466]

I hate tft on “classic” look bikes. Not needed at all

[@srirambaskaran5546]

In India , I bought Speed 400 for 2.67 Lakhs. However currently Guerilla 450 TFT top end model is 3.10 Lakhs now..

[@twowheelsoneleg5672]

Both good bikes, I'm leaning towards the RE as I'm not so keen on the "baby bonnie" look. Also hearing servicing costs are higher on the Speed 400 at Triumph dealers. The 400(ish) market seems to be really opening up so the next couple of years will be interesting

[@DiogenesOfCa]

The RE needs more servicing so it evens out.

[@LunadaBayRider]

I did the 600 mile break in myself. Dealer charged $50 to reset the maintenance light. Absolutely the cheapest thing I’ve ever left a dealership with.

[@colin5577]

I went for the Guerrilla. Loved the instrument pack, there were better colours on offer, it was a little cheaper and it looked a little more substantial than a Speed 400 to these eyes. I’d have been happy with either, though…it was a tough call.

[@jthemighty690r]

The Guerilla is more fun IMO. Its just a fun little thing that feels quicker than it should be. Looks as always are subjective, but Im a sucker for Triumphs general fit and finish.

[@LunadaBayRider]

I made my choice. Got the Speed 400. No regrets! I absolutely love it!

[@urbanstrencan]

For me it is Triumph that ticks more boxes 😊 Great video keep it up 🤟💪

[@scout8112]

I appreciate these brief comparisons. But what would it look like if you compared the Guerilla and the Scrambler 400 X?

[@Robin-iv1kc]

Enfield every time, and I’m an ex triumph rider. Triumph are the SELF branded top quality brand and are not what they make out to be. I was at the NEC a few weeks ago and the Triumphs were totally overpriced and not any better than the enfields.

[@levigato125]

Sold my Speed 400 with 200 miles because I didn’t like the transmission. First gear was way too short and I couldn’t get a smooth 1st to 2nd gear change. I ordered the bike sight unseen. I thought the fit and finish was just like any other Triumph, very good.

[@graemetaylor629]

always test ride

[@Ntmoffi]

​@@graemetaylor629 I couldn't test drive because I didn't have my license. Someone had to do it for me. 😄

[@Vegplot]

The 16T drive sprocket changes the gearing enough to make it an absolute pleasure to ride. I've toured Germany on mine with full luggage and camping gear and it was superb even on the autobahn.

[@MotoSnax]

I did ride both. The Speed 400 for a week. The Guerrilla 450 for 2 seperate days. The Speed 400 had too many small issues and the speedometer was WAY off, I bought the Guerrila 450.

[@Fiatmannen1]

Triumph if it had the re's tech and black forks.

[@AbhishekVeluri]

Damn, this is the video I’ve been waiting for! Trust me, this review is going to have a impact on sales in India - mark my words, Motobob!

[@derbyshireruralrider9398]

2 bikes I’m interested in so good to see a direct comparison

[@steveramirez8270]

I bought the Speed 400, learning lower speed handling after years of dirt bikes. Happy with the bike but warning lights come on when using the kickstand when running at times.

[@malcolmpatton9314]

Triumph scrambler would be my pick often roads in Australia go from tarmac to dirt and tours of Tasmania over 4 years on a Honda cb500x a tyre with even a little block tread is helpful.

[@stevebolton8471]

I have only ridden the Speed 400. I liked it a lot. Might consider one when I need a lighter bike.

[@boris8787]

Hope you do another great review this time the old school *BMW R12S* - reminds me of my first ever favourite bike the R90S in Daytona Orange. 🧡🧡

[@ZinoAmare]

RE still has to proof themselves to me, with riability.

[@ashleyralston9142]

I went with the Triumph after having to get back into riding after an 18 year break. Add to that I live in the South Australian Bush. I've found the Triumph Speed handles the dirt roads well though I prefer the tarmac roads myself. Australian Road Trains are a different matter, the bike being so light, it takes some real skill to get past them (Google Aussie Road Trains - never faced them in Britain whilst serving). I've also found the speedo to be badly out, the speed limit on the highways here being 110 kph, I have to do 123 kph according to my Chigee unit. Likewise 80 kph is 90 kph, this is a real issue I find. Still the bike is extremely comfortable and handles really well. Mine was built in Thailand though. Next year I'll add the new Triumph 660 Tiger Sport to the stable.

[@alexanders.4910]

Good catch about the speedo, no single reviewer tells about this Speed issue, which is significant imo.

[@ashleyralston9142]

@@alexanders.4910 This maybe just my 400 Speed but I have heard other 400 Speeds having similar issues with the speedo. Maybe not to the same degree but all speedo are out. A friend of my owns a Yamaha 320cc (not sure what its called) but his speedo is even worse. I've come up on him done 110 kph and I'm doing only 92 kph (approx.) according to my Chigee.

[@biggles50405]

I still need to test ride both of them but sitting on them at the NEC I found the tank bulges on the Guerilla got in the way of my knees. Didn't find them a problem on the Himalayan so I'm not sure what it is. Roll on next year and I'll get out and test ride them.

[@Realtechreviews]

Hello From India - Triumph Is the way. Your assessment is right

[@umakantd.109]

Traction control with speed gives upper edge . whatever may be the accessories, triumphs triumph,, also i've seen both bikes up close, aesthetically speed is better looking than RE or even the scrambler 400

[@MRo55i74]

I like the Clock on the Royal Enfield but for everything else it has to be the Triumph for me 👍

[@0Turbox]

Would be a close one for me. I like that Ducati vibe of the Enfield, but the overall value and looks is more on the Triumph side.

[@BJ900RS]

Triumph need to address some of their instrument clusters, unsatisfactory and lagging behind. The RE display looks great, apart from being off centre 😡

[@gobimurugesan2411]

Is there any reason for that placement?

[@0scartheCat]

Yes but the Kill switch fault issue should be a Triumph recall . . I would not buy that bike for that reason alone.

[@roviwoteap2375]

Looks wise it’s the RE for me. Seems a little more retro, although the colours are a bit wacky.

[@lorquet21]

What is the railway in the background?

[@Bowl_of_roses]

Bristol docks, near to the 'M' Shed.

[@BrettHolliman]

Cheers for the reviews, I’m looking at both of these and the Enfield is the one I’d pick, it’s very Ducati Scrambler (ish) and has a good choice of colours . Enfield genuine accessories are also fairly priced. But another good video from Motobob. 👍

[@RufusCapstick]

A direct comparison between a Triumph and a Royal Enfield, with the RE having the better tech package. That's not something many people would have said not so long ago 🤔

[@SSS-mp8th]

When did 400cc become middleweight? Or was this common in the UK?

[@gobimurugesan2411]

I think the target customers for Guerrilla 450 is youngsters. This is the first time RE doing something like this out of the box.

[@MFx88]

RE here in switzerland are doing a horrible job, they are importing only very select colors although their official site offers most options and the price is 1000 more than the speed. (speed costs 6000 chf, Guerrilla 7000 chf). if the Guerrilla was at 5000! i would of considered it, even though im more attracted to the speed 400. but the way things are at the moment, its hands down Triumph. next year on spring getting a speed 400! 🥳

[@unic0rn897]

Triumph aesthetics all the way!

[@Dushyant933]

I will, eyes closed pick triumph speed 400 instead of RE's guerilla 450.

[@RichardSpensley]

@MotoBob - I’ll keep asking this question on every video you put up about the Speed 400 and Triumph’s 2025 range: why haven’t the 2025 versions of the Speed 400 been launched worldwide but are released in India for 2-3 months now? When can we expect to get the yellow Speed 400 with adjustable levers and better tyres? Or are Triumph going to make the rest of world deal with this now 1 year old version of the Speed 400 for another year?

[@jensjp4674]

I like the yellow colour, but not with the white patch, so no thanks . And the red and white, that's a definite no thanks. The white colored tank might be OK. The tyres on most Speed 400's delivered in Europe are Metzeler or Pirelli , which I consider rather premium. Which tyres are fitted on the Indian 2025 models, since you consider them better? Then there's those horrible rim decals, you have to spend time removing! And not to forget that blacked out exhaust. I absolutely prefer the stainless steel version. That leaves the adjustable brake lever as the one thing, I would miss. So just keep the current model coming 👍. But that's just my opinion 🤔

[@b.kune.4073]

The Triumph is loosing big time, with the confused golden sport fork. Enfield for me.

[@Dreddingbath]

Close call but the RE edges it on the looks (better stance) and the dash... Triumph have cheaped out there, should have gone full analogue or used the Trident's.

[@lqmnnh]

Wished you add the Vitpilen in this comparison

[@marioguedes8074]

In my opinion the only thing missing on the Triumph is the Enfield's digital dash. Maybe it will be updated during 2025

[@va1ery]

I like re dash and it feels bigger and more solid, but their colors are toys. They should change the color scheme

[@landonfolken03]

Yeah they did a better job with the Bear colors IMO.

[@mrityu3353]

I like the brava blue and yellow ribbon, plus brava blue has those iconic hand drawn pinstripes older Bullets used to have

[@PLF-Bass]

All black for me!

[@joyboy3975]

Royal Enfield is my bias.

[@emmkrit]

I would have placed the Triumph Scrambler 400. Better than the Royal E.

[@Pedrusko]

Triumph all the way.

[@MrAndrew1953]

My question is if KTM can’t sort out and rejig their finances, could this place the continued production of the Triumph 400? Am I correct in saying both these bikes are made in India? I suspect the Enfield would cost less in terms of registration and servicing. The dual purpose tyres make the Enfield more versatile, as long as you don’t suffer from range anxiety. Then it goes back to a Himalayan v Triumph choice.

[@adimarsono7398]

Guerrilla 450 = Rambo Speed 400 = James Bond

[@manuelglasfort2622]

I bought a Scrambler 400x this year and so far I am happy with the bike. But now I‘m all hyped up for the RE Bear 650. Definitely gonna test ride it in springtime. Maybe a comparison video of those two bikes by then?

[@arijitsinha6202]

The Guerrilla 450 is genuinely ugly. That 450cc engine deserves better.

[@adityan3208]

I don't know if the bike is ugly or the colors

[@arijitsinha6202]

@ the colors are most definitely ugly, but if you look at the silhouette you’ll see how disproportionate it is, how the lines don’t really connect or flow, everything about this bike is honestly ugly. If it had some plastic panels and better colors it might help, but since the foundation is so messy there’s very little thqt can be done to salvage it.

[@neel3297]

RE feels like some local mechanic's job

[@shahan484]

I'd rather take the triumph because it comes from Bajaj -KTM-Triumph home that knows liquid cooled engines and not Royal Enfield who are experts of 20hp bikes

[@TriumphLover]

They're both Indian made, but I never cared for RE. The Speed 400 by far.

[@rounakbhattacharyya9163]

Speed 400❤🔥

[@iansmith237]

Honestly, I'd get the Triumph any day over the Royal Enfield. Looks better, lighter weight and they simply handle better. That said, are 400s really considered middleweight?

[@tevinthomas9777]

We're just waiting and anticipating the Mt07

[@tevinthomas9777]

Need a lovely 35 minutes long video when the MT07 drops 🥹

[@RS23545]

speed 400 looks and feels small when you sit on it. but guerrilla looks bigger.

[@jonomasonILoveU]

I`de rather have a 400ccKTM 45hp😁.

[@MichaelWilliams-jc2ui]

In receivership now sadly!

[@sahilrawat5621]

Triumph Speed 400 is a bit more Affordable in India than RE Guerrilla. So, it's a no brainer.

[@chanakyakala843]

Triumph Speed 400 the best and most beautiful bike i had ever seen

[@SonnyReduja]

Re seemed like they tried to copy speed 400 styling but failed miserably.

[@chrishart8548]

Unless they weren't. I think the triumph should have have made it look like the speed twin or bonneville. With the classic triumph styling this is to modern in many ways.

[@mrityu3353]

In what way does guerrilla look like a copy of speed? It's literally the roadster version of Himalayan

[@mrityu3353]

Speed 400 looks ugly from the back, while guerrilla 450 looks like a big booty latina with that 160mm rear tyre 🤤

[@X_BILSON]

I actually think the RE looks better in appearance, but for the road I'll take the Triumph

[@davidjones535]

Show of hand from tose who knew he woud pick the Triumph

[@cascarification]

Ninguna de las dos. Mejor compre una twin

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[@udayshome1793]

Heh he, the RE already shows a check engine light.

[@EddEdd-g3e]

Gold forks just look naff.

[@podunkman2709]

Indian market motorcycles.

[@ellwoodwolf]

Middleweight ??????

[@chrro466]

The RE front end just doesn’t look right!! And RE’s always look too fussy in their design and styling.

[@dougmcnamara7532]

I bought the Speed400. Already have 1200 miles on her and haven’t looked back. Now, I have a stable of motorbikes to ride, but the Speed400 is my City bike. It’ll do the American SoCal freeway at 75 mph all day long, but around town and back country is where she shines. I’m short and my inseam is 28” so the Royal Infield was a bit tall and heavy. I like the like weight feel. 🐢

[@markh7222]

Conventional forks on the Enfield to keep the cost price down?

[@sabbath.bloody.sabbath]

Showa conventional forks better than generic Triumph inverted forks. 😊

[@Opnmdjxkxmmff]

No contest. The Triumph engine is in a different league....

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