“If I had this when I started painting, I’d probably have a fully painted army.” Bless you for saying that.
@Pyre001 Жыл бұрын
I feel like the biggest breakthrough of Contrast/Speedpaints for experienced painters is not so much the one-coat approach, but the ability to make _really_ vibrant washes and glazes. It's good stuff!
@trovarion Жыл бұрын
True!
@maverickman6486 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really like using speed paints as washes. Depending on the paint and what I am trying to do, I may thin the speed paint down a bit. Also I have used dry brushing before and or after the speed paint too where appropriate. This is really a style of painting I did in the 90s but with homemade washes. The speed paints really do flow well with this method.
@Omegaterrain Жыл бұрын
I love this approach. I’d call it the Minimalist Method. It’s a method using a limited pallet that’s applied fast enough to get minis painted quickly, but doesn’t sacrifice quality like most other speed painting methods.
@trovarion Жыл бұрын
True!
@zazen69 Жыл бұрын
Trovarion's Technique Critique! Already looking forward to the next episode.
@nemhod Жыл бұрын
This series is amazing. Love how clearly you explain everything. Would be interesting to see you try the Artis Opus style of dry brushing in combination with some other things from this approach.
@scottspalding3360 Жыл бұрын
Please do these for all kinds of styles. I would love to have a quick table that shows what techniques I can use when I want to prioritize speed/results/fun and then have a reference video for that technique.
@trovarion Жыл бұрын
Will definitely make more of these!
@bob12884 Жыл бұрын
Saved this one. I particularly like what you said towards the final rating in that your brush skills make the end result more polished than someone not used to painting as much. This has been what I've tried to voice to many people watching youtube painters. Your brush strokes have a natural purpose that you can't exactly discuss because it's something you do with your tools. I think this is where the difference lays for us painters.
@AdamRobertshaw Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see how you'd approach black minis with this... both matt / satin types, and then on assassins or Harlequins where you get the latex/leather shine.
@trovarion Жыл бұрын
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@jamieott3832 Жыл бұрын
I work in this way often. I like to use this over a zentihal prime with a white or off white drybrush highlight first.
@dave_s_vids Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks! I hope Displate are happy that they sponsored you - your ad segment was the first time I've actually considered buying some of their stuff - well done!
@iantellam9970 Жыл бұрын
I suppose I do something similar, but for speed I generally just drybrush white over the contrast painted model, and then glaze over it again with thinned contrast paint 50/50 with medium to improve the transitions. You get really good contrast and readability this way, with pretty smooth transitions - faster and simpler but obviously not as neat as painting the highlights on, which is something I'd probably leave for characters. The main benefit of this style for me is that it's super forgiving, but leaves plenty of room to build traditional painting skills on top of getting the model tabletop ready if you want to spend the extra time.
@perkulant4629 Жыл бұрын
Real Zippin’ Nice Fast technique, looks nice and lots of information to unpack!
@journeyinpaint Жыл бұрын
friendship with washes over, now contrast medium is my best firend.
@davidstone3698 Жыл бұрын
The series name should be “Test the Technique”.
@NuffleBlasphemer Жыл бұрын
Workflow Workshop: Contrast Washes would be a pretty concise title I think, plus you’ve got the word ‘workshop’ in there for the algorithm haha
@DeadEightVids Жыл бұрын
Great video. After going cold turkey on washes years back my painting got a lot better, which kinda teaches you to be close minded. Seeing the result you got in that timeframe though looks like I should give contrast medium a go. Really useful to see exactly how you're applying it too. I'm on board for the rest of this technique tour!
@Sorrowdusk Жыл бұрын
🧐 *CALL IT:* The Trovarian Technique/Trovchop
@Gamecapturevideo Жыл бұрын
Love the palette choice - I'm a sucker for white + orange, and love the teal in the recesses for contrast and focus. 😍
@markmooney9416 Жыл бұрын
Whisper those sweet lies into my earholes
@gnol4688 Жыл бұрын
I think the most important feature of any paintjob are shadows and highlights. I bet everything looks great with a oil wash and some edge highlights. Also the texture you paint creates a lot of interest.
@bair2 Жыл бұрын
I wonder how this technique compares to an oil wash, in terms of accuracy, ease of use and speed.
@oleww50 Жыл бұрын
This looks crazy good for only 2 hours. Amazing, keep up the great videos ❤👌
@naib_stilgar Жыл бұрын
"Golden Demon Winning Artist Tries Newbie Techniques" or GODEWATNEWT for short.
@thousandcold Жыл бұрын
Love this style. Will push this for my aleph.
@funwithmadness Жыл бұрын
Funny thing... A week or so ago, this same technique popped into my head but I haven't had a chance to try it out. Now I see that it can work so I'll definitely attempt it.
@Xatxitor Жыл бұрын
I like the pin shading using contrast paint. I'll use it for my fire hawks using orange as basecoat and contrast red for shading. Also good tips for white
@travismckee6352 Жыл бұрын
Call it the KISS series. “Keeping it stupid simple”. Highlighting simple and easy techniques to paint to a pretty good standard quickly. Your not going for complicated NMM or golden demon level pieces, just good painting, relatively fast, that beginners can pick up quickly. To be fair there is probably a better name out there though.
@Noggaholic Жыл бұрын
Keep it simple, stupid. 😂😊
@MoodersInit Жыл бұрын
*skips through to make sure there is no air brush* ok cool a new video to watch
@isisnmagic1812 Жыл бұрын
Great video, each step is so easy to follow and sinks into the brain cells, I would call it the easy step series.
@aldinviray2970 Жыл бұрын
My friend and I use the term paint pooling for a technique similar to this using contrast paints. I think the way you use it is more precise will definitely try this out
@samthelost Жыл бұрын
This new series is killing it!
@jorgemontero6384 Жыл бұрын
I can do the whole all-base-and-700-glazes that golden demon painters do every time, but I end up doing the majority of moat miniatures like this, and only take out the slower, more powerful technique in areas where the eye goes, and inks will not give me quite enough control. You don't have to pick only one! The one issue is that you might end up with 7 trillion paints, as pure acrylic and a contrast range will overlap a lot.
@benjaminjack867Ай бұрын
Definitely borrowing your recipe for the orange fabric
@markkuhn129711 ай бұрын
Awesome! Is this mini from the Necromunda Ironhead Squats?
@trovarion11 ай бұрын
Just a regular votann
@maciejsieradzki8316 Жыл бұрын
Series name suggestion: Technique Meter
@tombrand236 Жыл бұрын
Wow that looks great. Fantastic combination of colours and techniques
@mikefisher856311 ай бұрын
This type of painting will be the go to way of painting if not already
@jagarilon3711 Жыл бұрын
I like your Videos most (painting tips / tutorials). Thanks a lot. I would like to see a Grim Dark Space Wolf from you :-). Something special. Perhaps not that babyblue style. Keep the great work.
@peterlageri4177 Жыл бұрын
SEEF painting. Speed, Ease, End result, Fun.
@matthewpinder7967 Жыл бұрын
Another great video, I am really enjoying this new series. Great job!
@theonlytrue8t88 Жыл бұрын
great video! Runic Grey from AP is a very awesome and versatile Speedpaint color. i reccommend you plkay with that. its very fun. Thinned down its a good shadow color for white or on slappchop uts the poor mans NMM
@MyOwnLanguage Жыл бұрын
seriously though, the way you paint and the effect that you achieve usually make me want minis that I would never consider' or would never catch my eye.
@spesterwecial4 ай бұрын
This is a cool way of articulating inspiration!
@whatamidoinghere2714 Жыл бұрын
I love your videos man. They are really well explained and are easy to follow. Do you have any videos or would you he able to make one (or some if you fancy trying different ways) showing how to achieve a good metallic orange and some weathering and chipping on it in a way? I'd love to see that.
@nofixedcourse Жыл бұрын
Great video as always! I just picked up some more contrast medium to give stuff like this a go.
@euan6424 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see this approach and how it looks on Tau infantry, old school ochre scheme and see how it does
@Mallakai86 Жыл бұрын
Ca you please do a black legion model! I’d love to see how you approach this in your grimdark style
@TsarLuna Жыл бұрын
10/10 video mate, thank you!
@k23Mordred Жыл бұрын
Love thos series! Thank you for your work!
@VivoDraconis Жыл бұрын
Slap or crap could be a good title. would also be a funny play on slap-chop
@damientyner2369 Жыл бұрын
What is the base coat orange you used? I've never been able to get orange that smooth!
@ZouiS007 Жыл бұрын
This series is truly great! It would be great to have the name of each technique reviewed in the titles. For a title for the series: What the tech!?
@thelonepainter4760 Жыл бұрын
Loving the content! Great work 😊👍🏽
@01BSBH Жыл бұрын
Great final paint job!
@alessandro348 Жыл бұрын
I see you saw the LEGO scheme Votann image, nice Mars Mission
@nico9161 Жыл бұрын
I love this series. It's a very effective and pleasant way to improve my toolkit.
@shadowknght22 Жыл бұрын
Contrast glazing i think is a good simple name
@MoodersInit Жыл бұрын
Pigment police, creamy blend or stupid trend?, trovarion technique teardown, technique toolkit, paint winner or paint thinner? Will it blend?, Pushing the process, sorry ill stop now bored at work 😂
@hoshi314 Жыл бұрын
hmmm so it's a bit like Slapchop+ eh? you used contrast but i got a feeling you can also use other brands like AP speedpaint or Vallejo Xpress, just thin it to glaze consistency methinks and use it on solid colours base instead of well pure white. NEAT!
@Catjacked Жыл бұрын
I think you should add enjoyment as one of the factors you consider in the different processes.
@trovarion Жыл бұрын
Funfactor is not the same thing?
@fomod_ Жыл бұрын
Might finally open the contrast paints I have for the first time to try this
@MoadikumMoodocks Жыл бұрын
Can I ask what contrast paint you used over the white. Is it Apothecary white?
@rowanmacdonald1424 Жыл бұрын
Celestra grey * contrast medium
@defdaz Жыл бұрын
Techniques Tested. Simples! :) Great job as always!
@Ryzearn Жыл бұрын
Series name should be, contrast techniques 101 for all skill levels
@PoulEbbe Жыл бұрын
This is such a great discovery series
@dand1789 Жыл бұрын
Really cool video format.Guess it is importent to show the white /black differences approach. Question to the community: want to paint harlequins and have worries because of the diamond pattern.Are there good tutorials out there helping?Thx.
@SeaMonkeyLad Жыл бұрын
Did you go back over the orange armor with a yellow wash? I feel like it looks like whitish highlights in one shot and then suddenly next shot is vibrant yellow highlights.
@trovarion Жыл бұрын
No, first highlight is a mix of orange and yellow, second highlight is pure yellow. On the helmet i added white in the last hl so it looks more shiny.
@RAINBOWBEARMAN3 ай бұрын
Anyone have a list of which color paints and brands he is using here?
@KragzogStudios Жыл бұрын
Tournament of Technique
@philipjacobsen6550 Жыл бұрын
can this be done with black contrast paint? if you want some color to show on the highlights?
@trovarion Жыл бұрын
yes! you probably have to play around a bit with dillution. I always recommend to start more dilluted, because you can always apply a second thin layer!
@philipjacobsen6550 Жыл бұрын
cool thanks:) will try it on my black templars@@trovarion
@zezorc Жыл бұрын
The result is stunning!
@naib_stilgar Жыл бұрын
Is this really a technique in its own right? It kind of looks like basically layering a coat of filter/shade using glaze medium then highlighting it as usual. Does the contrast medium work wildly different somehow? I mean is it a really one coat shade and forget thing? I am inclined to think it is not, and there was some coverup necessery as usual, but that happened in the highlighting process sort of..
@CapitanMee Жыл бұрын
Stunning, so crisp. Any chance we could see this technique done with black?
@ZodiusXx Жыл бұрын
Call it *Joy-ficiency* Joy vs efficiency
@djnausea975 Жыл бұрын
What color is the orange you basecoated with??
@trovarion Жыл бұрын
orange fire by vallejo game color
@matthewbull3688 Жыл бұрын
What orange and yellow did you use? It looks beautiful!
@gnol4688 Жыл бұрын
I think the orange is the single pigment contrast from gw. Magmadroth flame I think
@matthewbull3688 Жыл бұрын
@@gnol4688 Yes I suspected that as well... curios why he only mentioned half the paints he used!
@jeffhreid Жыл бұрын
I’d call it “Wash and Go”
@USALibertarian Жыл бұрын
What do painters mean when they say "volumes"?
@pepi560 Жыл бұрын
do something with oils next! title suggestion: The Joy of Exploring Techniques a lil bob ross reference
@trovarion Жыл бұрын
Did oils for the first one.
@pepi560 Жыл бұрын
@@trovarion i meant oils only. Not just pinwashing but actually using them for base colors etc
@trovarion Жыл бұрын
@@pepi560 i havent painted with oils in like 12 years, so probably not.
@pepi560 Жыл бұрын
@@trovarion understandable, have a nice day 😄
@aaronbono4688 Жыл бұрын
Slap Chop PRO or just Pro Chop. Slap Happy? Slap a Pro?
@johannisson77 Жыл бұрын
pros and cons, painting styles - PCPS
@markhickson1066 Жыл бұрын
I really enjoy where this series is going and have really enjoyed the first two video. However, the final level achieved in the two methods isn't the same. One is grim dark the latest (this one) is just painted to a good level, no chipping or streaking has been added to the time. So this would be much slower than the time shown. All that said, keep up the great work.
@trovarion Жыл бұрын
fair enough, but gotta try and set a boundary somewhere - what I mean is: If every video uses the same techniques then it doesn't quite make sense to compare the approaches, if that makes sense? Here I went for a more "traditional" result, where it is about finishing the model to a midtone-highlight-shades result, while the other one is more about creating depth with non-acrylic and non traditional techniques. The next one will be about drybrushing and the one after that about grimdark/sponge painting - none of these will use similar techniques to any of the first two, again, so we can better compare.
@markhickson1066 Жыл бұрын
@trovarion fair enough😀. I really look forward to them. However, it does invalidate your "time" comparison. I don't care as I think the concept of reviewing techniques is a useful one, but the time comparison is pointless. For example, this method I can get nmm in 4 hours, this one table top ready basic painting in an hour this one if one batch paints grim dark takes 1.5 to 2 hours. Great but does it take 4 +1 to do nmm + grim dark or 3 + 1.5. It just doesn't match. If each method finished at say grim dark, different techniques or quality finishes but we get a valid time indicator. At the end of the day I don't really care. Your teaching style is great and I care more about the learning techniques or at least where to start than I care about time. Hope this is all still working for you. You are much appreciated.
@ShutUpWesley Жыл бұрын
Actually a very nice aproach. But did you use a spray can to prime the minie? It really has a dusty/frosty look, and it hurts so much to look at 😁
@trovarion Жыл бұрын
Yeah I fucked that up normally I don't use white primer...but it's youtube and I had a deadline to release the video, so I worked with what I had. No time to assemble a new mini. Usually I prime black and then airbrush the mini white since that gives a smoother surface to work with.
@lloydjamieson2143 Жыл бұрын
Call it the warhipster technique, as he start this first.
@Arttano Жыл бұрын
How about something like "Technique Tests with Trovarian" for a series name?
@theinnerham Жыл бұрын
Call it "S.E.E. how fast".
@MadMax-el2el Жыл бұрын
I like and hate contrast/speed paint. I like that it opens the door for more painted minis on the table. I have been so happy walking through the lgs and not seeing a single primed or bare mini on a gaming table in months.. Now my hate of contrast/speed paint, and the context, i have been painting minis for more than 30 years, ten of those doing commission work on top of my own stuff.... i Personally I won't touch it again, I was not happy with the results, how it acted, the wildly inconsistencies in pigment density withina paint line. The best looking result was basically a "super contrast" black and white paint job, with contrast airbrushed over it. The piece was good enough it is in my display case. Now, I am just gonna out myself and say my paint collection looks odd at a glance.. There are 7 bottles of ink, 4 different mediums, two different flow improvers, a bag of pipette, a set of laminated pages with ink mixture for specific colors and a pile of dropper bottles with a glass bead in them waiting for paint. Anything that is pre mixed is sitting on the shelf looking normal. Then there is a pile of oil paints, mainly for oil washes or Blanche style painting This system is way more work than the average gamer wants to put in and the paint can be horribly fragile unless you use multiple clear coats. I mix everything so it is airbrush ready. But I can mix my own contrast like paints. I don't, i am not a fan of pooling, it drives me absolutely nuts. So, I like washes and glazes to act like they should.
@Dragon_Werks Жыл бұрын
Great technique. What's that figure? I don't recognize it.
@oleww50 Жыл бұрын
New Votann range from GW
@TheTheBlackSheep8 Жыл бұрын
hello i use this technique often but the problem i have is that sometimes the contrast paint flood over other parts of the minis (we can see it on this one the orange is leaking into the white part) and it get really hard to clean afterwards so for tabletop result is okay but won't do anything more for me, what is your take on this cause i really like this approach tho?
@Ketothev Жыл бұрын
I found that the easiest way to handle that type of spill over is to keep a slightly moist clean brush handy and quickly soak up what spilled over.
@PhthaloGreenskin Жыл бұрын
Or you can use the almighty sponge for all your blending.
@doc_sav Жыл бұрын
Magical method science
@kerel995 Жыл бұрын
Rly good vid
@petertumminaro4528 Жыл бұрын
Shadelighting
@hehmda672 Жыл бұрын
How this awesome Orange is called?
@trovarion Жыл бұрын
It's not fast enough anyway so you don't need to know
@hehmda672 Жыл бұрын
@@trovarion 😏
@fragfmgill Жыл бұрын
What is that head?
@poggestfrog Жыл бұрын
5:21 Dunno if AI is great for referencing shading lol
@evilmattn Жыл бұрын
Wann machst du mal wieder einen Malworkshop? Bitte plane was für Anfang 2024, möchte meiner Frau ein Weihnachtsgeschenk für mich vorschlagen 😅
@maximem.ste-marie3578 Жыл бұрын
Am I supposed to see/understand a technique here ? I just see someone painting normally
@element4studios Жыл бұрын
Glazetrast
@kriss667 Жыл бұрын
So I see you took my advice on the ease of use instead of difficulty (seriously I don't really think It was my advice only 😅). So for the series name, maybe follow your natural tendency of readability of your teachings and call it something like "painting approaches rated" or something like that. I think that would suit the style of your channel.
@giraton1 Жыл бұрын
Funny, I kinda just ran into this method due to following Juan Hidalgo's (hope I spelt that right) Eavy Contrast series and then trying to speed the process up and experimenting.