Which HD Truck is Best? 2024 Chevy Silverado 2500 High Country vs Ford F-250 Limited Diesel

[@TruckKing]

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[@jonclassical2024]

You and your Dad do really solid, detailed truck reviews with great photography...thanks....much appreciated!

[@sethdonnelly8655]

Being a contractor ford no doubt, nothing wrong with the Chevy, it’s more than capable, anyone who can afford them should be happy, I personally drive a 2021 550 ford for work which is truly amazing …easier to judge than a car, turns like a car and being detuned as a cab and chassis with 4.88 is a still a beast at 12k empty

[@Back_door_bandit_98]

Idk I use to drive a f450 cab and chassis with a newer power stroke that was de tuned had a service bed with a crane on the back and it was ungodly slow topped out at 82 and got 9 mpg while leaking oil like crazy from the upper pan truck was a turd that’s why I didn’t buy a super duty for my personal truck.

[@plugmenace8513]

@@Back_door_bandit_98some trucks are bad apple from manufactures it happens humans aren’t perfect

[@robertmanley6102]

​@@plugmenace8513 Yes, some trucks are turds. Like every single Ford that comes off the assembly line. Even Consumer Reports rated a Ford F150 as a "do not buy" in 2021 or 22. That has never happened before but Ford has become so unreliable and has so many recalls now they have become to troublesome to buy.

[@XMR_King]

@@robertmanley6102my buddy’s ZR2 blew up engine at 24,000 kms!! he’s the 4th person I know of locally who’s need the engine replaced with barely any mileage haven’t heard of anyone with a Ford doing that

[@GMCGUY-]

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[@GreaseMonkeyTV]

The squat of each truck with the trailer hooked up would have been a pretty nice detail to cover. Maybe helpful for future videos.

[@SaulSadowsky]

That's why air bags on the rear are a must have, Ford & Chevy should make that an option when configuring a vehicle.!

[@evilacsmojo]

Love the under carriage review.. never seen that and it’s a great and unique view point. Sub’ed

[@TheXandoor]

I own the Chevy Silverado 2500 HD High Country. It is without a doubt the best pickup I have ever owned. And I have had a bunch.

[@thomasforman7628]

I JUST TRADED MY 2500 RAM LIMITED IN FOR THAT CHEVY, I HAVE ZERO REGRETS THE HELL WITH THE RAM. I LOVE THAT HIGH COUNTRY.

[@castrojody]

I always said Ram has to go back to the drawing board on the 2500….

[@matthewmccain]

@@castrojodyA Cummins is made for only one thing towing/pulling. The horse power numbers are Nowhere near Ford or Chevrolet but they still get 20,000 lbs towing max and 1000 lb torque out of a straight six six speed transmission. Just an old tractor diesel. The six speed Aisin transmission isn’t too bad. It’s no Allison though. I’ve always said if Cummins ever got an Allison transmission it’s really gonna be the ultimate working machine.

[@TractorJeep]

Stop yelling.

[@slh5525]

I know yall don't get a say in what trucks you get. But IMO, the high country is closer to the king ranch or maybe the platinum trim, which would bring the prices closer together

[@Jawan_Sells_Cars]

i agree the denali ultimate would be a better comparison

[@jalopyjoe3935]

I own both f450 and a brand new high country dually and without a doubt the Chevy is more comfortable all around , yes the limited seats are a plus and the ford has WAY MORE STORAGE space in cab but all in all point for point comparison goes to the high country

[@JT-lu8vt]

I hated my f450 I think it's because of commercial tires

[@dundonrl]

Except for I'd have to drive it in reverse everywhere.. that front end is FUGLY!!!

[@MattPatrick-g8e]

​@@dundonrleh, I've heard plenty of people call both ugly.....

[@treborheminway3814]

Midnight edition should REALLY be offered on other colors. Your absolutely right.

[@dwayneblanchette]

It's called midnight edition because it's black.

[@treborheminway3814]

@@dwayneblanchette call it something else then, but black out all the trim, wheels ECT.

[@mattwag11]

It actually is. It's called "sport edition". The grille, emblems, and wheels are blacked out just like midnight edition and I believe it's only available in red, white, and grey exterior colors and is available starting at the LT trim level. I personally like the actual midnight edition myself, ordering one in the next couple weeks.

[@chrism6575]

It is. Crazy how many people don’t know this!

[@StevenMedrano-s4o]

I think mentioning the 48gal fuel tank on the Ford LB is a major factor. It’s definitely nice not needing to fuel up as often when towing or traveling.

[@jamesbozzone1447]

Great video! Just traded in our 2017 F-250 King Ranch for a 2024 Chevrolet 2500 LTZ a couple of weeks ago here in Houston. The quality of our Ford was terrible. We had multiple problems with it. Major problems! For us, Ford’s quality issues on a $90k truck kept us from buying another one. The new interiors on Chevys are vastly improved from when we bought the 2017 Ford. This year Chevy is competitive. We tow a 10k pound trailer and I can’t wait to see how this truck performs. We definitely noticed the significant price difference on MSRP but we also received a $4,000 cash back from Chevy on the new truck whereas Ford was charging a mark up on the new Super Duty. The choice was very clear for us. A comparable Chevy was at least $13k less than the Ford and the Ford quality issues sealed the deal.

[@Maninthemiddle514]

Yes sir I have a Chevy 2500 z71 diesel a 2019 I'll never go back to ford again

[@gregmurphy6830]

I haven’t Owned a GM product since 07’ and won’t own one ever again. Seats are like sitting on a 5 gal bucket

[@owencarlucci6959]

​@gregmurphy6830 You literally just stated your opinion is based on the seats in a chevy from 19 years ago. Cuz that totally makes sense🤦‍♂️🙄

[@astiles21]

My 2017 L5p had terrible reliability so good luck

[@Maninthemiddle514]

@@astiles21 yes but I just use the truck for fishing I don't pull anything with it.. I just bought it because I wanted over kill... Because from what experience tells me if you use a truck that was meant to work for leisure it will last a lifetime.. this truck has never worked a day in its life. It's spends it's time basking in the sun with a Margherita in the cup holder 🤣.. now if I was working hard with it I could understand

[@limogesman]

Thanks for the great review. The major issue you point out is pricing of $9k more for the Ford but in that case you would have to compare the King Ranch which is the same trim level as GM's High Country. Ironically the King Ranch is $9k less than the Limited. I absolutely love my 2022 Ford F-350 SuperDuty Platinum Powerstroke.

[@Buuboi214]

Dude smoking crack the king ranch and the high country is not the same trim level. More like the LTZ and the King Ranch on the same trim level.

[@johnnyjackson1783]

@@Buuboi214 You’re the one smoking crack. High Country is the direct competitor to Ford’s King Ranch and/or Platinum. GM doesn’t have a package comparable to Limited - the fact that High Country still has to be optioned out proves that. LTZ is more comparable to a Lariat High

[@Buuboi214]

@@johnnyjackson1783 😂😂 what a 🤡

[@jeffcurl1597]

@@Buuboi214 He's right, you're the one looking like a clown

[@chrischamaschuk463]

that ford annihilates the gm product so bad I'd be willing to shell out 20 grand more

[@RoyalTiger13]

I shopped the GMC AT4 2500HD vs the Ford F250 Tremor. Both gas. I ended up buying the GMC and love it. Thanks for a great channel.

[@bigmountain7561]

Honestly the One Ton is the best, don’t have to worry about towing and the RESALE VALUE is the Best. I used to be brand loyal but if my interior is going to look like a Lincoln Town Car then it’s for me. I’m 6’3” 305 lbs retired truck driver so I want to be comfortable and I want Grunt!!! Great Videos, 🙏 I priced the F350 Limited Loaded for 108 and change American.

[@3n82]

I don’t think resale value is that good tho

[@MattPatrick-g8e]

​@@3n82better check your local craigslist. 15 year old trucks with almost 200k miles guys are asking a mint.

[@pjohnson0818]

I have a 2022 f250 with the 6.7, and have owed all them brands in the last 5 years. This 22 250 is hands down the best of the bunch. I bought it used with 9k miles so price was different for me. I always refer to the railroad track test and the f250 sounds so firm and solid going over the tracks, my rams sounds like some stuff may have fell off….and I just plain don’t like GM’s IFS when it gets rough out there. Just my 2 cents.

[@matthewanderson9912]

Nice video. A couple observations I’d like to make is 1) if you ran the Chevy in auto 4wd for the entire test that would explain the fuel milage difference. 2) if the Ford had the short bed like the Chevy it would have a smaller tank. 34 gallons I believe. I do agree Chevy should offer a bigger option for the 8’ bed trucks.

[@profjohnfrinks]

I have a 24 sierra. I love it; however, i'd like to point out that I get terrible fuel economy. Its much worse than my 17 sierra. Its slower too! That being said, its one smooth machine.

[@migfaz]

@@profjohnfrinkswhat does your fuel mileage look like

[@profjohnfrinks]

@@migfaz I havent done any actual calculations, the computer seems to hover in the 13s... mixed city and highway. Bed is loaded with tools probably 2k lbs. My old truck was getting around 16mpg, same cargo. Old truck had a cap, new truck has a retractable bed cover. Not sure if that has any bearing on it.

[@migfaz]

Thanks for replying, im looking to upgrade my 08 LMM to a 24 high country and was wondering about the fuel mileage

[@profjohnfrinks]

@@migfaz im assuming you get better fuel economy than the new ones...the trucks just keep getting heavier. Somehow, the new truck seems to be better in the corners than the old truck, despite the mass increase. Like I said, the smoothness is the most notable thing, very serene considering the capability. I almost went midnight edition high country. I went ultimate instead, for the interior!

[@Vapeguygaming]

I would go with the F250 it’s the best in my opinion

[@wint_62]

You r opinion is wrong & awful.

[@muzicfinder1]

I just bought a 24' silverado LTZ71 Allll⭐️ diezuuuul! Beautiful truck!

[@gabemw_3562]

Same here bro. I love it.

[@rhalloff]

Me too. So far so good!

[@williammoree]

Just bought a 2024 duramax ltz 3500 srw and it's a towing machine .Duramax and Allison very reliable also.

[@scottyellis3442]

As always great job on comparing the two. I'm Ford but both are super nice trucks but neither is worth the money. With that said I'd still take big green. It does everything that I would ever need without all the electronics. I'm not a house mover so I don't need all that power & torque. Big green has 4X4, heat, & no computers, perfect.

[@Dalleco]

For me i don't buy trucks completely on looks and or fuel mileage it's capabilities is what i like, i hate to be pulling something needing a extra 100 or more lbs feet of torque and it's not there because i chose looks and fuel mileage over capability Superduty for me.

[@jayk.2276]

That is so dumb, all the HD diesel trucks on the market currently have more than enough torque to pull whatever it is you need it to. These are consumer pickups that practically have class 8 tractor power 😂 just admit that it’s to win the pissing contest, I would have much more respect for you 😂

[@Dalleco]

I really don't give a fart what you think if it's not capable I don't won't it I'd rather have it than need it and need it and not have it's a man thing.

[@Jawan_Sells_Cars]

I think the right comparison would be to the GMC Denali ultimate to the limited but great video very informative as usual

[@pnwdweler4100]

The Denali Ultimate compares with the Limited on the Ford. Regular Denali compares with the Platinum. SLT comparable to the Lariat.

[@Jawan_Sells_Cars]

@@pnwdweler4100 Thats what i meant to say yea i totally agree

[@myleslundy6771]

Agreed, Denali untimate comes with massage seats I believe

[@drewyager4020]

Truck King. You do such a great job.

[@m1lkman1974]

Great comparison guys! to answer the question at the end, I would tentatively rather the Chevy based on looks and needs (less powerful engine is fine for what I do) and I really dislike that front Ford air dam. Finally, the decision would be based on a test drive because quite honestly when I bought my last pickup in 2020 we dropped the GMC vs the Ford because the GMC/Chevy seats were like sitting on a cement park bench and completely uncomfortable. Hope that has changed! Keep up the great review guys! Big fan!

[@freedomliberty7611]

You must like to compromise

[@fit4ya1975]

Your right, the seats suck in the GM/Chevy. I sat in my cousins 2023 F250 Lariat, the seats were awesome, but they sit up too high. Im 6'2 and was looking out of the top 3" of the drivers window. Can these clown car companies get anything right?

[@larrypruitt3919]

That Chevy front end looks like an 90 year old ass.🤢

[@SkeldZ06]

I'm pretty sure the seats are the same from 2020 to present.

[@angelflys97]

My pops owns a Denali ultimate and I have a 2020 f250 platinum. And I can tell you rn my seats are way better. But agree the looks on the Chevy are awesome!

[@carlosmcmahon623]

I like the Chevy as well. It looks good in and out. No matter what updates Ford does to their trucks. I cannot tell if it's a 2021 or 2024, they all look the same and very generic looking, as well. I like the premium feel both in and out of the Chevy and you can tell it looks new and not a four-squared flat side with the same old front windows cut lower. That is so 2000 series and that alone dates every Ford truck on the road.

[@MIZUNOMP60]

Ford and Ram seem to have more comfortable seats over Chevy/GMC according to most reviews I've seen. Obviously, seat comfort is important but not a deciding factor when there's so many things to take into consideration. Just wondering why Chevy/GMC don't seem to get the seat comfort right, many reviews say they're too firm.

[@james2042]

because firm seats are cheap. the denali ultimate has unique seat designs that are more in line with the ford and ram. Really sad you have to get a top trim gmc (not even an option on chevy) to get decent seats

[@benevolentson7328]

How are firm seats cheaper? Many European cars have firmer seats, does that mean there cheaper to manufacture or is it a different feel there going for? Also how does longevity play into it? Most Lazyboy look and feeling seats turn to garbage after a few years.@@james2042

[@fit4ya1975]

Comfort is #1 in a vehicle. Period.

[@forearmshiver2758]

Firm seats last longer

[@james2042]

@forearmshiver2758 that's fine for the wt and mid trim models. If you're buying the luxury model the seat should be comfortable

[@bret9741]

I’m love RAM’s dial shift in their half ton. To me that is the best option to increase center console and avoid the column shift sticking in front of the infotainment screen. I wish FORD, RAM and GM would move to the dial shift in all their HD pickups.

[@BIG570S]

The Ford has that awesome panoramic glass roof and the Chevy still has the same old small sunroof they’ve had for years. A better test comparison would’ve been a Lariat Ultimate HO with the standard bed. Better comfort in the seats, more power and more useful towing tech along with the more powerful inverter setup in the Ford…It was a no brainer for me Ford SD all day.

[@6582rg]

The problem with the heavy sunroof is the weight. That number comes right off the payload. I ordered mine without one. One more thing to fail.

[@james2042]

the fact either truck has a sunroof makes me hate them both. Why would you ever want one?

[@dantimber]

@@6582rg Agree 100

[@Bob-fk8vd]

Most people don’t use a sun roof. Waste of money. I would rather have the head space because I am a tall man and want the headspace.

[@XMR_King]

@@james2042it’s one of the things I love about the Ford way more natural light coming in, and if I don’t that which is very rare I just close the blind either half or fully

[@mojorisin7371]

Both trucks well all trucks nowadays are scandalously expensive but for the money I would lease the Chevy and buy the Ford. You can't go wrong with either one as a ton of engineering has been done to these very capable trucks. It pretty much comes down to which one appeals to you more for your lifestyle and use of a vehicle like these two.

[@lawdog516]

Totally agree, Chevy it is !!! Great video

[@tylerking27]

If you like changing ball joints

[@lawdog516]

@@tylerking27 All vehicles suck if you want to nit pick, name me one vehicle that is 100% trouble free? That wasn’t his question, he was just asking between those 2 trucks which one would you choose based on price, options and which truck was a better value, it was an extremely generic question.

[@marcelo403polo2]

@@tylerking27 ????? My Sierra HD just got them replaced. 260K km. I actually did whole front end in one day in my garage and im not mechanic. Not sure what you mean by your statement. How long those should last in your opinion?

[@lawdog516]

@@marcelo403polo2 Your not getting it, you simply cannot understand the premise of his question. Reliably WASN’T what he was asking but thats ok, good luck on your HD. front end, great job and have a Merry Christmas my brother and I wish you the best.

[@tylerking27]

@@marcelo403polo2 they don’t last long if you’re on a lot of dirt roads. Ok if you’re mostly way miles though

[@tonyg1958]

I recently bought a gently used 2024 Chevy 2500HD High Country with the Duramax engine and 8 ft bed. "Gently used" means 16K miles, it sold new in Feb 24 and I bought it in Nov 24. It still had the new smell in the cabin, and if you didn't look at the odometer you'd have no idea that it wasn't brand new. The advantage of buying used was that I got it for about $14K US less than the original sticker. I've only had it a few weeks, but so far I really like it. Lots more technology than my previous vehicle, which was a 2019 GMC Sierra 3500HD (SRW) Denali. I was perfectly satisfied with the GMC, but some guy apparently thought I needed a newer truck and decided to t-bone me in an intersection. The additional horsepower & torque and the 10 speed (vs. 6 speed) over my old truck is noticeable when towing my 24' center console boat. I can't feel the boat nearly as much and the shifts are a lot smoother whether towing a load or not. Honestly, even though I'm more of a GM/Chevy guy I think I'd be really happy with the Ford reviewed in this video as well. As in the review, the deal breaker for me would be the price difference, in almost every other way it would be a coin-toss. I love your channel; straight up good information in each video. Keep up the good work!

[@Carocade]

For me and looking to keep a truck a long time I would go with the Ford!

[@dishcleaner2]

The chevy grill looks sick. I would want it from the looks perspective regardless of price

[@loudandclearmedia]

Bought the ford, a 2023 F250 Tremor with the HO 6.7. Honestly, the pro power onboard to me is worth the price difference. When I worked out of a sprinter van, I would carry a 6000wh Goal Zero battery to keep my gear (commercial media) powered up and all the batteries charged. Now with the Ford I can trop everything up en-route and even use it as a generator on site if need be. Yes, the price is a bit of a punch in the balls (mine was $100K US), but the truck is SO good.

[@dantimber]

Nice. It may be a small thing but 20" wheels on any HD are going to negatively affect ride quality, especially off-pavement. Anyway I'm planning on buying a F250 SuperCab with the standard bed but can't decide on the engine. Can you feel the extra power with the HO? Since mine will get some (not a lot) off-road use and I won't be towing heavy I'm considering the 7.3 gas because it's lighter. My hunting truck is a Mojave.

[@loudandclearmedia]

@@dantimber thanks! My wheels are I think 18’s. The tremor package includes big knobby 35s, so the rim is a little smaller than the other higher trims. I wouldn’t know if the HO feels more powerful than the other engines, but I imagine it would be apparent. I mean, 1200 ft lbs, for such a large vehicle it’s frighteningly quick. Really impressive. I would encourage you, even if you aren’t hauling regularly to stay away from the gas engine. Don’t get me wrong, we have an RV with that engine in it and it’s great, but I’m talking specifically about resale here. Fact is, a gas powered HD pickup’s resale value will drop like a rock compared to either diesel. Just something to consider.

[@JoeWayne84]

@@dantimber I run 37 13.50 20 on my 6.7 powerstroke?? They are plenty smooth off road and on road.

[@MetalHeadMike02]

You’re correct in leaning Chevy, but I’m sticking with my Ram.

[@bret9741]

After using rams knob shift and a couple of other vehicles with button shift on the dash, that is the route I wish everyone would go

[@rich7447]

Column shifter for automatic trucks.

[@jeffeason3599]

My buddy has a Ram and loves the knob shift. I love the column shift in my new 24 2500HD. I also have a 2021 Suburban with the button shift on the dash and I hate it. (It’s the ONLY thing I hate on it though). Chevy is going back to some sort of electronic column shifter for 2025 as apparently the feedback from the button shift design has not been good. My Suburban has over 60K on it right now so I’ll probably look to trade for a new one when they come out.

[@aaronbecker4372]

Regarding the skid plates, its important to mention these trucks are not apples to apples. The Z71 on the Chevy is better compared to the FX4 on the Ford. The FX4 on the Ford will include those skid plates, which I believe are ALL steel, no plastic. I am surprised TK did not mention that...

[@jamesgranato2186]

Should have checked DEF consumption as well. I've read from several different Outlets that the new high output Powerstroke sucks down DEF at an alarming rate. When you break it down at cost per mile along with the fuel mileage it makes the Ford more expensive to operate in the long-term.

[@kernmw10]

Are you kidding? DEF is insanely cheap its basically irrelevant in the equation.

[@Coolguyjason]

The camera mirror in the Chevy is the winner for me. Being able to see with different loads in the bed or on the trailer makes a big difference when you have to use the old R.

[@chasegibson4346]

Did you dent the tail gate when you put it down on the hitch?

[@MrRader36]

lol this is the comment I was looking for and I was thinking the same thing

[@alexbell9196]

you dropped that multi pro gate abd i seen the hitch i literally cringed as i watched it go down. surprisingly it didnt hit it. my half ton gmc nails a hitch if i drop the gate like that.

[@marcelo403polo2]

I noticed that too. I guess that hitch got more drop then on half ton trucks

[@kyle8380]

If you're planning on keeping it for awhile, Ford's aluminum body is a major selling point. You wont have to worry about the body rusting out.

[@ryangray715]

Guess you have never heard of electrolysis

[@mr.wilson8340]

@@ryangray715That’s a reach.

[@ryangray715]

@@mr.wilson8340 oh yeah, go look at a cab of a 379 Peterbilt. My 2007 had electrolysis showing in a few places after 10 years or so. Aluminum cab with steel mirror brackets, rivets etc. once fords aluminum bodied trucks hit 10-15 years old we shall see. Hopefully I am wrong but my wash habits are on point and I’m still dealing with it🤷🏻‍♂️

[@mr.wilson8340]

@@ryangray715 Over the road hauler vs. a pickup truck. 😂 An even bigger reach. Amusing though.

[@nightowl3582]

That Super Duty is beautiful.

[@DC_PRL]

for $100K ++ I'm amazed that they don't come fully undercoated with liquid film, steel skid plates and belly panels to keep salt and debris out form the undercarrige. In 5 years those will be rust buckets up in the snow belt

[@PKDesigns2011]

100% agree ... can't believe they don't offer it as a proper package ... hell i'm sure a ton of people would trade a few of these options to get proper underbody / exposed part coating ...

[@williamfeldner9356]

Ford body panels are made of aluminum

[@DC_PRL]

@@williamfeldner9356 steel turns to rust, aluminum oxydizes, the results is pretty much the same...what's your point? everything else is steel and needs to be undercoated.

[@williamfeldner9356]

@@DC_PRL please give examples of aluminum oxidation where a body panel has been totally destroyed…… I see steel bodies destroyed in Minnesota every day….. Or how about those aluminum fishing boats sitting in fresh and salt water still intact, if the hulls were steel they would have to be painted or they would rust before your eyes……. Protected steel for structural strength, aluminum for panels….".. Proper engineering

[@DC_PRL]

@@williamfeldner9356 I'm looking at my f150 aluminum hood and aluminum rims that are pitted and oxidized from rock chips and salt exposure right now. same with alum boat hulls used in the ocean. If you think that aluminum doesn't corrode then you're a moron with all due respect.

[@drewelliott9062]

Good video. I'd take the Ford.

[@lucmorel2958]

I think a good comparison would be a platinum or king ranch, instead of the limited trim

[@johnmcfadden802]

I've had all three, with chevy these days, But it's amazing That any of the 2500/3500 Trucks from the big three Effortlessly handle loads that you used to need a 5500 "medium duty" for. Last year I took one of my 10k lb Cargo trailers through the rockies, And it was downright casual

[@B86432]

The price of a house 😂 but a worse investment

[@jeromep3182]

Not really if your making money with it so it can pay off

[@B86432]

​@@jeromep3182😂😂😂 k chief whatever you have to tell yourself may as well write it off as a work expense

[@tylerking27]

A vehicle is never an investment, always a deficit! Even if it’s for work…

[@tylerking27]

@@jeromep3182 A vehicle is never an investment, always a deficit! Even if it’s for work…

[@jeromep3182]

@@tylerking27 if it’s creating money it’s an investment point blank period. Same thing like a house houses are investments and do they not require maintenance as well to retain their value come on now let’s be real. some cars if you do your research are investments The original 96 Mclaren F1 and 600k car back in 96 with a value of 20mill investment. 😁

[@liamrobinson2084]

Great video gents! What's the one year depreciation on these trucks, $25k? $30k? What is the redesign rate on this segment, 4 years? Does that cause another significant drop in the residual value? I'm sorry, but at these prices, the only thing my brain will consider is the financial aspect of ownership, and the potential driving experience goes in one ear and out the other. Congratulations to anyone who can make these things a worthwhile purchase, but i can think of a lot of things i would rather do with $150k (MSRP+ tx+ delivery). On the other hand, Steve and Howard are great. Thanks for an informative and entertaining video.

[@johnpeters9793]

How TF did you come up with $150K as the price for these trucks?? And what do base your depreciation numbers on?? Forget the huge profits people were making during the last 3 years flipping these HD trucks.. all trucks for that matter....the worst I've done was sell my '12 F-350 private party for aprox. $12K less than I purchased it for after 7 years.

[@XMR_King]

30 k depreciation pretty much soon as you drive off the lot 🤦‍♂️

[@jdscoco]

I was a Ford guy (Owned a 2019 F250 diesel for towing). After all the recalls (dealer not fixing), death wobble when towing; I swithced to Chevy. Chevy isn't perfect, but so far it is far better than Ford....Vehicles aside, I found the dealer experience better to deal with than Ford. The death wobble was the big thing! Very unsafe! Final truck purchsed was a 2024 Chevy 2500 LTZ Diesel....same options of a High Country....For much less than a Ford....

[@dundonrl]

Dealer didn't fix your recalls? I find that hard to believe, since those are federal (NHTSA) mandated to fix. Now if it's just a TSB, then I could see them not doing it. I have two HD pickups, a 2012 Ram 2500 4x4 and a 22 F-250 Tremor and I've never experienced death wobble on either of them (231K on the Ram and 37K on the Ford) both bought brand new.

[@nightstorm9128]

If you took the 50 plus computer modules out of these trucks,,Including all the useless gadgets that come with them ,,It would reduce the price by 20 grand,,And you would be left with a very reliable truck that would last twice as long,,The only module.you need in a truck is the engine ECU,,,,get rid of the radar,,lane departure warning,,cameras,,screens,,TPMS,,E handbrake,,Electric seats,stop/start,,Now that's a truck I would buy..

[@adrianmarquez8345]

Literally the reason a buddy of mine absolutely refuses to get rid of/upgrading from his 2012 F-250 King Ranch. Never given him a single issue. Never failed him. Works according to him as great pretty much as the day he got it. And he can do so much work on it on his own without having to rely on the manufacturer to fix certain features such all that fancy gadgetry you basically eluded to.

[@0rickkathy0]

Great video guys, love your views.

[@logandecker1426]

Good video but I think the fords features are way better… I’d much rather have on board scales and the pro power on board than the camera in the mirror lol… having a built in inverter in the bed alone is a huge benefit/feature that is only available in the ford. Also the max recline seats are the best!

[@Killbot754]

Bought the F350 Tremor with a gas - no comparison engine wise between the Ford gas and the GM or Ram, also no comparison since neither Ram or GM offer an equivalent off-road package in the 3500, only in their 2500s. Still tows a ton with decent torque and way cheaper on gas than diesel, even with the difference in mpg.

[@dundonrl]

F-250 Tremor and F-350 Tremor are I believe the same identical trucks, with the exception of the fender badging and payload stickers (I know the 4th Gen Super Duty is, maybe they changed something on the 5th Gen SD but I don't think so).

[@Killbot754]

@@dundonrl if I wasn’t towing I’d buy a half ton. The suspension is different in the F350. The leaf spring pack is bigger and shocks tubes differently. The styling is identical, but payload makes a big difference especially when GM and Ram are already lower with Rebel and AT4x on a 2500 only.

[@TramaineleDay5655]

To be honest. I like both but prefer the Ford. But I went with the GMC. They are both capable, but thee (scale, on board power, better camera views and the information given in the cluster) beats GM. The GM trucks though with (auto 4x4, camera mirror, longer history with the Dmax and tail the tailgate). Again it a personal choice and if u want massaging seats (better than my GMC), and what you will do with them.

[@tinny1817]

Chevy looks better imo, great review

[@kirkcardoso6137]

The ford has far more options and capability. From pro power to towing options Ford whoops chevy.

[@rhyantoivonen2717]

I bought a used, 2022 F250 Trremor with the 7.3. I threw new Fox 2.0 reservoir shocks all around. Picked it up with 55,000KM. Love everything about it. We haul a bed full of gear, fuel and supplies up to our remote cabin in Northern, Ontario, Canada. I don't tow alot of weight, 2 snowmachines in a 23 ft enclosed trailer and a side by side. We bought it mainly for the payload and large bed/off road capability since our trails are pretty rough. I wouldn't buy one of these HD trucks new. Let someone else pay for the depreciation and buy a 2-3 year old one with warranty and decent mileage, for much less $$$.

[@TheIceStormof1906]

This is not a apples to apples comparison. You should’ve went with the standard output Ford in the Lariat trim with the short beds. That would be fair. Or done this comparison with a GMC Denali HD! The Ford long bed gives you a larger tank due to the longer bed size for example. Let’s be fair

[@TheNotimprezed]

Do you think they get much choice in what vehicle is sent to them for review?

[@TheIceStormof1906]

They very much may not! And part of being a reviewer is to put it all in context. Many viewers may watch this and truly not understand the true differences. He didn’t add the context of the way the ford was option as this was not apples to apples

[@21divel]

Strange you're going on about stuff that was not even a deciding factor.... Tank size was mentioned once and the standard output engine still whips the Chevy.

[@TheIceStormof1906]

@@21divel No actually, depending on the rear axle ratio, both tow a 10k trailer to 60 in 16.3 seconds give or take .2 seconds, SO 6.7 vs 6.6 Duramax. Comparing the highest possible trim in a FORD to a Chevy is not an equal comparison. The way the Ford was optioned also bumps Tow capacity specs. He made mention of that. Standard bed with that configuration boosts the specs as well.

[@21divel]

@@TheIceStormof1906 yes, if you give the less powerful engine a lower gear, it will help the power.... But then it wouldn't be apples to apples then would it? The Ford gets better mileage with more power. Ford gets the chevy any way you put it...unless you make it "not fair" and change the gearing to favor the chevy.

[@goldenrakelawncare6564]

Basically just personal preference it seems after watching this video. Both are great trucks.

[@SuperReddog17]

i've had a 2017 ram 1500 bighorn for almost 3 yrs. now i can say i hate the dial shifter, i'd rather the column shift, i still screw up sometime i think i put the ram in park and it's in reverse, i coasted into a steel and cement pillar in a parking lot thinking it was in reverse but in drive instead, other than that i love my ram, but i'm still a chevy guy at heart.

[@user-DaveRivett]

Great job comparing trucks...thanks!!!

[@Greg-bu7mi]

Good comparison. On a several thousand mile haul you might find those seats worth every penny LOL!

[@fit4ya1975]

Yup! GM/Chevy seats suck.

[@thomasbordi8726]

Boy those stacked headlights look like a copy and the steps on the bed also.😮

[@markweng5078]

I think that an important thing to consider is the fuel economy savings of the Ford over the lifetime of the truck. It might be more money out the door, but your fuel savings costs help level the cost of the vehicles as fuel will only get more expensive.

[@kmanolakakis]

I prefer your channel much more than the TFL guys for truck reviews. I love your commentary and style of reviewing but why are you not driving? I want to know how it feels to tow with one of these trucks; steering, chassis, breaks, power, features, likes and dislikes, etc. I get a lot of useful information when you're introducing the trucks but not so much with your dad driving.

[@gregferris9378]

Shouldn't you have a X brace under your truck ramp? I'd be leary of standing under it.

[@Fony_turgeson]

do you not see how beefy those angle irons are...they are fine man chill out

[@LikelyCandidate]

The grills of these trucks look so similar; really shows how much cooling seems to be a priority. If it's function over form, I'm all for it.

[@Back_door_bandit_98]

The trucks look completely different….

[@atg1338]

Grills look nothing alike🤣

[@mattwag11]

Lol, I have to agree, they look night and day difference and IMO the Chevy has a wayyyy better looking front end.

[@kevinjohnson4490]

A longer bed cost a lil more also.

[@michaelcedeno4123]

Underrated comment

[@rafterktbcattle3022]

I cringed the whole time you were under those trucks with that angle iron stand 😬 Be careful! What a detailed informative video as always. Happy holidays

[@whitetail229]

Bruh, you and your dad do an excellent job on detailing the information on these trucks. Really appreciate it. I was always a chevy guy and I just got my 3500 midnight edition LT. Thanks to your input. Was Doing a Chevy anyway!😂😂

[@fivesfilms]

That's my same Chevy, except mine is a 3500!

[@TheGrasspond]

Good review. If price was the swing factor-be careful. I custom ordered 2023 an XLT with standard output 6.7, everything heavy duty tow options including factory installed 5th wheel, 2,000watt outlet in back etc. sticker was 71k I got it for 65k us $. My guess is someone could order starting with lariat package and add options to what else the want and pay much less than that limited. The only reason I buy ford is dealer is close. Chevy dealer is an hour away. I would probably buy Chevy if it was the other way around. This is my 3rd f250 and the last two have been remarkably reliable.

[@mjareacts2731]

GM HD truck have pretty much always had the mid step, Ford is one copying the mid and rear steps from GM.

[@Cliff117]

Well, you know….. a few months ago I bought a 10th Gen 2000 F150 4x4 7700 with a gas 5.4l V8 and 4 speed/overdrive transmission. It’s a 3/4 ton with a 1/2 ton badge. I can’t get it 0-100 in 14 seconds, but I will get there. The truck with matching canopy in perfect working condition cost me $2500 Canadian. So.. my truck is 20 years old, running without issues. When your warranty runs out, and a taillight assembly has to be replaced at twice the cost of my used truck, you might rethink your purchases…… how often are you towing 10,000 pounds?

[@dundonrl]

It's not a 3/4 ton with 1/2 badging. Even if the frame is the same, the rear end is still a semi-floating rear end, which is the biggest thing on a HD vs light duty pickup.

[@TonkaFire2019]

Gotta say driving 2500 chevy does drive better than that solid front axle on the ford

[@CristianM4252]

The super duty is just as smooth now.

[@JohnSmith-ev1sm]

@@CristianM4252 On a smooth road, it's harder to tell. On rough roads while towing? Chevy hands down, it's a physical thing not a Ford/GM thing. You can't tune away that solid front axle, the left will always affect the right and vice versa.

[@josephina24]

​@@JohnSmith-ev1smWhich is a benefit for wheel travel and traction, but not so much ease of drivability. I like how Ford has the dual function front hubs, I know someone who had the automatic option for the hubs fail but could hop out and turn them in for reliable 4wd

[@kylebutler7142]

This is HD truck. IFS is for passenger cars + Rangers and Tacoma's and Colorados etc. This is a work truck for towing and heavy loads. Why would you f*** around with IFS? Shows Chevy aren't serious about the Heavy Duty segment.

[@CristianM4252]

@@kylebutler7142 Never had a problem towing my 40 ft camper nation wide with my 15 LML .

[@bret9741]

You and your father are really good at reviewing trucks. Thank you. I know you have to be careful how you answer questions about vehicles and I know that you can alienate a manufacturer or dealer easily making your job much more difficult and costly. So far you guys have done a nice job straddling that bob wire fence. Any experience or statistics you have seen that is reputable on which HD truck will holds its resale value the best? That means more to buyers like me who trade in every 3-5 years. Reliability is also important as it helps make my living but I never drive more than 25,000 miles a year, and most are 12,000 because my wife and I usually drive her SUV on longer trips. From the front, the Chevy is absolutely awesome looking. From the rear, the Chevy has the best tailgate by far. Even Fords new multi-function tailgate is lackluster in comparison. Now, I actually prefer the ford interior for a few reasons, (1) the adjustable pedals and telescoping steering wheel. (2) the seats are more comfortable and I love the multi-contour full lay flat seats. I have a sleeping disorder and many days, I have to pull over suddenly and sleep for 10-15 minutes. (3) I really like the panoramic roof. That blue on the ford is impressive matched with the limited interior. However I’ve seen this light grey/blue diamond pattern age very quickly. The ventilation holes catch a lot of stuff. In 1979 my Dad bought a brand new ford F-350 at the Ford dealership in Roswell New Mexico. Actually my grandfather bought the truck as a gift to my dad. Anyway dad set down with what that dealership called fleet manager. He ordered all “special order” and all vehicles for the dealerships in stock vehicles. Dad picked out a light light powder blue with white running fore and aft in the middle of the truck. It had a medium and dark blue interior. It was a Crew Cab, long bed, 400 ci engine, 4:10 gears matted to a 4 speed manual transmission. It was the most loaded version available in 1979, and XLT “Lariat” with a rope symbol. The cost with tax, title and destination was $7990.99!!!! At that time dad made about $30,000 a year and mom about $11,000 teaching. Today that truck would be $86,000 or a factor of almost 11x. If our incomes kept up with the inflation on pickups.. I’d be making $330,000 $400,000 a year to have similar buying power. It’s a shame the US and Canada have become socialistic welfare states. They’ve destroyed their currency forcing husbands and wives to work full time just to survive.

[@evictioncarpentry2628]

You should always have a park brake on when loading a trailer. When you put aomethung heavy in the only thing holding the truck without a park brake is the pin in the transmission so rocking the vehicle hard in park could break it.

[@chucknSC]

Bad to compare fuel tank size when one is a long bed tank and the other is a short bed tank.

[@alejandroordonez9196]

Please remember that the the comparable for the Chevy will be the Lariat

[@prahfetts825]

You are spot on again Definitely should be able to get other color like red in black out edition 👌🏽👌🏽

[@mattwag11]

You can, it's called sport edition available starting at the LT trim level. Think it's limited to white, red, and grey exterior.

[@camonly849]

The crazy part is how the Ford makes so much power and gets better mpgs 🤣🤣

[@arthurharder9105]

That’s their(ford’s on board)computer, it’s a lot closer in actuality, although still better? ford is all about numbers(great marketing strategy)& 1/2truths! Like for instance ford f150 best selling truck for 47years straight is telling you 1/2 the truth, if you combine GM’ Chevrolet & GMC sales together(for essentially they’re the same truck)under different badging, they’ve out sold ford over 40years of the 47years ford is claiming!

[@AnthonyPearson4JesusofNazareth]

@@arthurharder9105 anymore examples?

[@sethswords9800]

cant wait to see the 8.3 duramax up to the high outputs

[@Felipe-is6pk]

8.3 ? Wow

[@sethswords9800]

@@Felipe-is6pk supposed to be coming out in 2025 i believe

[@barberdoug6930]

Quality Looks And Durability Hands Down Put Me In The Ford.

[@fcodxdart1083]

One of the things I'm come to recently think about is power. Every generation each brand is more hp and torque. In theory I think the Chevy sits right at the sweet spot for power. However efficiency would be the best thing to work on for all brands. If you had to tow from Texas to Florida a 40ft travel trailer you're gonna be pulling at 5-6 maybe 7-8 mpg. If they could increase that to 10-12 that would be such an amazing improvement. Most trucks nowadays don't need any more power we need efficiency. If I could have 1 less fill-up on my drive that would be great.

[@mntgoat2.0]

GM IFS is laughable. I have one as a farm truck. 25k to 30k miles and the front end gets rebuilt. Solid front axle is the only way to go in a work truck

[@marksullivan8200]

Both trucks are nice but the seats are important for hotshots i mean as far as mirror camera wolfbox is a good aftermarket but for someone not hotshotting over the road i like the auto 4wd & built in camera so id say as always how you intend to use the truck but they're both awesome trucks

[@FUIKO1963]

Gm for sure

[@JosephBarlow-e3u]

Did you do a test using the exhaust brake showing which one slowed you down faster?

[@ricwestdoesitwork]

For value I would have to go with Chevy.

[@kylebutler7142]

The Chevy had a shorter bed which makes it cheaper. The Ford has more power, tows more, but still uses less fuel. The Ford has an aluminum body, pro power on board, built in scales and smart hitch.

[@countcuda70]

​@@kylebutler7142 and has a CP4 injection pump. No thanks!

[@crspcritter]

Better resale value gm .

[@chileshemubanga3594]

Hey Stevie,kindly quote power & torque figures in Kw & Nm for us Zambians.please!

[@robm3357]

I like to follow cost of ownership and Ford just scares the hell out of me. Try pricing one of those tail lights on the ford. Very expensive. Based on trucks we have had at the company I work for there was to many issues with the Ford. To much time at the dealership. We also had a couple of top of the line Rams that spent a massive amount of time at the dealer. So it’s been Chevy since. Not perfect but better than the other two.

[@jamesgeib5509]

We bought a 2024 Chevy LTZ 3500 HD and really like it. The disappointing thing so far is the goose neck trailering package should come with the bed view camera. How do they expect to see the ball to hook up without it. Yes, that camera comes with another safety package as they name it. All those other cameras cost so much more for the farmer who is pinching pennies. I could not order that safety kit. I had to take what was available.

[@captainpaddy1524]

The Chevy is built in Canada, is it not? For me, that would be the deciding factor.

[@countcuda70]

Most are still built in Flint Michigan. Recently GM started building them in Ontario Canada too. All 6.6L and 3.0L Duramax are built in Moraine Ohio

[@fit4ya1975]

80% of the things in your home are made in China.

[@Steelviper61]

I'll save almost 10K and take the GM product all day long. Can't justify the extra 10K for what you get. Great job on the video guys!!

[@camonly849]

Well you don't have to get the limited lolol

[@johnpeters9793]

​@@camonly849 Or the HO motor....or the long bed. That guy is clueless...

[@camonly849]

@johnpeters9793 yes haha.

[@The_Notorious_CRG]

I would go Chevrolet. Even though I admit I am GM biased, I would in general always go for higher feature content for the price, and given that I would never have to tow 10 tons and that if I were in a vehicle of these sizes and pulling a mere 5 tons, people will look out for both of these vehicles on a freeway merge. But, yeah if you need that Nth degree of capability go with the Ford. I'd imagine though all most buyers would need to see given everything else is a wash...is the badge.

[@BrianSeevers-e2l]

Absolutely love my 24 AT4 8k miles of enjoyment

[@eddieel-haj1296]

The Chev just stands out like a champ!