Top Tips for Taking Down CHAOS Enemies in Space Marine 2

[@TrueVanguard]

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[@aidanochoa7398]

You shouldn't lock your Community LFG (Looking For Group) behind I pay wall. This is coming from someone who regularly enjoys your content, not hating. Keep up the good work man.

[@betterarmed]

The little shield bastards block more damage than makes any sense. They are far too tiny to handle my melee like that.

[@quinten7031]

You have to heavy attack them to knock them back and expose a critical hit

[@Lyonatan]

And the end of the day they take like 2 more hits than a gaunt

[@kiiyor]

@@quinten7031 Yeah, you can do that, but.... they also shouldn't be able to tank a fully charged Power Fist straight to their dome either without even getting their demon hair mussed up. I think if they detune chaos chaff and maybe dial back on the dakka terminator a little (personal preference - i'd rather tank the hive tyrant than one of those) they'd be in a better place.

[@ChillAssTurtle]

They are actually fucked fr. They eat 2 much dmg

[@Ayto27]

They can face tank several gl shots if it's not hitting behind them. That's stupid

[@mageeboi]

Worst parts about the chaos -- teleporting across the god damn map, flame ring of death, and minions with shields.

[@Slanderbot]

And their teleports have no cooldown either! D:

[@danieldominguez6208]

I know literally spam roll to them and they teleport away !

[@Darkwater1886]

I've got your now!!! "Teleports" up stairs, starts reinforce call.......

[@leonidemelin1131]

Yeah also big spawns right on your head

[@taylormade601]

I get where Chairon was coming from...

[@shugazi1]

For a Space Marine its like my shield is made of paper

[@ZzVinniezZ]

yeah when armor break after a few lasgun shot, just baffle me how squishy space marines are in this game.

[@DanTheReaperMann]

@@ZzVinniezZ Yet they say they can't add or do certain things that would break lore yet we are broken lore wise.

[@ZzVinniezZ]

@@DanTheReaperMann brother im being an Alpha legion color scheme and marking working for loyalist marines......wait that is actually lore accurate

[@simplyyunak3189]

Dealing with chaos: play tyranid missions instead. Seriously, killing a majoris tyranid instant kills all the trash around with chaos it does not

[@Ducky97743]

Plus warriors often do melee attacks that you can parry or dodge to get gunstrikes. Rubrics mainly just shoot you or do poorly telegraphed melee attacks, or unblockables. Or they just fucking teleport away.

[@BlackyMox]

The most problems i have when fighting chaos are the shield carries. I simply can't get them down and the keep hitting, i mess up parries and die at some point. Plus the constant sniper strikes which can easily stunlock you are just brutal. The majors come way behind that

[@eugenekrabs6400]

Bulwark with intimidating aura and defensive advantage makes them pretty harmless

[@ZzVinniezZ]

@@eugenekrabs6400 granted if we get bulwark in the team 24/7.

[@jabaygar4890]

Their parry window starts as soon as they jump, not as they’re about to hit you as with most enemies. Try parrying much earlier than you would with nids for the shield Tzangors

[@eugenekrabs6400]

@@ZzVinniezZ if I’m on the team you’re getting exactly that

[@eugenekrabs6400]

@@ZzVinniezZ also meltas seem to work well so you’re always going to have either someone capable of using one or a bulwark on your team

[@nelsongodoy5101]

I know that it isn't exactly what they said they would do but I really hope the buff headshot damage for the bolt weapon family. That would reward accuracy (both player skill and the often ignored stat on weapons) and bring them into line with melta weapons remaining at their same power level leaning toward ad clear

[@TheUnrealPrasti]

One minute in and that scene already makes me not want to play to those difficulties

[@kazi6343]

They really need to bring chaos forces down to Tyranid level. In ruthless everyone is farming Tyranid operations and that cuts content in half.

[@TheTanK619]

Love the space marine coverage TV keep up the good work brother. For the emperor!

[@JasielMartini]

These are all good tips. Although tbh the best one is... just play the Tyranid missions lol. I've done... man I can't even count how may Tyranid missions . The Chaos missions are just... not that fun just because of how frustrarting and cheap the enemies are to fight lol. I'll play the demon dino missions until they fix the enemies in Chaos missions. Or until I've got all classes maxed out and all weapons updated lol. That could take me months to do lol so i've got plenty of time to play.

[@_Shoo]

Yeah, I like doing the Tyranid mission more

[@DanTheReaperMann]

Only one I like is the Heldrake mission simply for the fight at the end. Reminds me of old school raids.

[@piedpiper1172]

@@DanTheReaperMannI feel like that one is also the one with the least mandatory chaos killing? Big sections of it you can run through, with an ammo crate at all the ones you can’t so st least you can just spam your highest impact attacks. Even still, just one flubbed spawn in the Helldrake arena can snowball on your team pretty quick

[@JasielMartini]

@@DanTheReaperMann Yeap I like that one. And the Demonhost one where you take the circles. I like the mission objectives,but man the enemies themselves are just frustrating to fight against and not in a fun way. There is, like zero cover you can use since they’re ALL capable of ranged damage and you’d never be able to get armor/health back faster than they can damage you. You basically have to roll, shoot, and pray. Especially on Substantial and Ruthless difficulty.

[@Jknight416]

Should also recommend having a Bulwark on the team to help out with team survivability. Cuz those heretic Space Marines do hurt, especially when a dozen of those flamethrower ones spawn in.

[@omidog06]

as a bulwark main yes! when there are multiple of them I try to get their attention and block the fire damage so my teammates can deal with whatever else they got and then get to work picking off the flamers, typically they don't do unblockables unless they're being attacked

[@piedpiper1172]

“Solution to Chaos: Always bring a bulwark and sniper.” Like yeah, it does work, but man, that’s kinda not a good sign that in a game with 6 classes and 3 person groups 2 slots have to be set in stone for 3/6 missions. That kinda suggests something is fundamentally wrong with the game systems. In particular, healing. The Bulwark shines here because it’s the only mechanically reliable healing in the game-active armor regen and full contested health that actually lasts long enough to give a chance to recover it. Similarly, the Sniper is the only class with the alpha damage to keep up with Rubric spawns. Which hey, that’s the point of a sniper, so I’m glad the enemy health values allow the class to function on Ruthless, but man, it sure seems like these guys are too bullet spongy for all weapons that aren’t the Las Fusil. Even the meltas kinda fall off in these missions, carried by their stun and health regen. Meanwhile, Rubrics apparently eat bolter rounds for snacks. Relic Bolt Rifle fully specced for headshot/chaos damage and you can still find yourself needing to mag dump their face to get them into execute, which means you gotta swap or reload to continue shooting for quite a while to clear them out from range. There’s a reason this footage fires the grenade launcher more than the bolter lol.

[@nir300]

That clip in the end Satisfying to watch

[@seanelgie]

They are just not fun to fight. Kills don’t really feel rewarding like the Tyranids.

[@Bigborian92783]

One thing that helped me against the minoris chaos minions with the sword and shield is to parry all their diving attacks. Even if you dont get the blue circle if it jumps at you just parry and it will kill them instantly. Sometimes they jump in 2-3 at a time and 1 parry kills them all. I didn't think about light > heavy combo > gun strike. Im gonna start doing that 😅. Might work really well for sniper too since all those gun strikes are headshots which restore camo cloak

[@SoundsFromBeyond]

2:08 LOL! Berry McCockiner!!!! 🤣

[@PerfectDeath4]

Sniper setting up chain executions with a bulwark go a long way vs the chaos enemies. Bulwark's parry shock field + shield bash (with extra stun perk) can deal with the tzangor shield birds quite well. This is more of a cautious playstyle than a brute brawling style and some environments are just no good. Be ready to run to a better location to do the fight. 3rd member in this kind of group can be the one who deals with the teleporting marines who can bypass the bulwark. Though in the runs I do, i'm usually just with a buddy so the 3rd is either bot or pub and pubs do struggle vs chaos a lot more than tyranids.

[@maximusd26]

bro was holding on that gene seed for dear life in that intro ... salute o7 (although it's useless af when lvl 25)

[@bluenicholasbf2142]

The xp you get also affects gun xp, so it's never useless unless all 3 weapons you are using have full xp

[@Exshooter101]

@@bluenicholasbf2142 it's also shared across teammates, so indeed never useless

[@Slanderbot]

People dip on reliquary b/c its the worst mission in the game. It's SOOOO long, drawn out, and the end event isn't even fun. :C

[@ErodedCorpse]

I personally have a lot of fun on all the levels. Though I do think Chaos need to have some adjustments to their ranged damage to make them more bearable!

[@Breakingfasst88]

Hot take: Vox liberatis is worse. At least the heldrake bridge sequence can kill waves on the bridge. Vox liberatis has way too many open areas and you have to capture an area out in the open so many times while getting shot at. Don't get me started on the pool area where it spawns both Chaos and Tyranids who can both call reinforcements.

[@daggumnametaken]

We have six levels and fools cut that down by avoiding chaos levels.

[@ErodedCorpse]

@@daggumnametaken Yeah tbh I actually like fighting Chaos. They could use some tweaks but avoiding them altogether is ridiculous tbh.

[@MJV90]

Also nearly impossible with randoms. Donkeys can't read the symbols in the boss fight

[@Quetzalcoatlus100]

Shield Tzaangors are just the worst. That shield takes more damage than you do before they drop it and there's at least 25 in waves either in huge groups of pain or sporadically being annoying.

[@scrotumscratcher2474]

Light heavy combo makes work of chaos troops.

[@CenturionMkIII]

This might seem unpopular but I actually do not mind the Chaos shield minoris. Since I main the Bulwark, I have learned their counters and they aren’t difficult to deal with. I see the shield carriers as a “melee check” to test your parries and your heavy strikes so that you are not mindlessly spamming light attacks against minoris crowds. The shield carriers make Chaos minoris more threatening than Tyranid minoris alongside making up for the lacking amount of Chaos melee majoris. Chaos are not the overwhelming horde that the Tyranids are, they are thorough and tactical(especially Tzeetnch, the literal Chaos God of Knowledge) so they lose most of the melee majoris(compared to the Tyranids) for their ranged majoris and have surprisingly sturdy melee minoris to be expendables.

[@epicexx5114]

High level gameplay consists of constantly rolling.. cool

[@ZeusKnocksYouOut]

The Chaos missions are just not fun. They do SO much ranged damage which is unavoidable, they teleport across the map, and they're tanky as all hell. The little goat men with the shields shouldn't be able to block lights perpetually since im a fucking space marine with a thunder hammer and they're a goat. if I have to charge a heavy to kill them, their friends immediately delete my armor and health. I can easily go through ruthless tyranid missions but the chaos marine ones are too obnoxious to be anywhere near fun. Needs a rebalance

[@toms6464]

Good video mate, appreciate the tips

[@cartho1103]

Last night, the game threw 12 chaos Astartes and a lot of the little shield guys. We got wiped in like 5 seconds, and there was nothing we could do Alright, so if you guys want to continue to just suggest the melta, I guess I have to give more context. It was substantial difficulty with random teammates. I was a Bulwark, and the other two were assault and sniper. I was in a horde of enemies dealing with them and had no problems, and then a 4 flamethrower Astartes and a couple shield Guy's spawned right on top of me. I missed a single parry and got stunlocked and instantly died to the 4 flamethrower. Similar thing happened to my teammates, and we all died in seconds. So you guys can continue to suggest ways I could've survived, but it ain't gonna change the fact I got caught off guard and died. I honestly think the enemy spawns glitched and way more spawned than they were supposed to because when I say there were a lot of the shield guy I mean there was a fuck ton of them.

[@Quan-bo4np]

Damnnn sounds like u need a vanguard lol hmu

[@Badgerdance]

Vanguard with melta, tac with melta, heavy with melta... you would've steam rolled a pull like that easy.

[@Quan-bo4np]

@@Badgerdance definitely! I love vanguard

[@grimmcrag8715]

Why was there nothing you could do?

[@leonidemelin1131]

There was - you could use a grenade launcher on tactical marine😂

[@kudaj90]

Not only chaos has some problematic enemies in problematic quantities, but also objectives and set pieces are insane. That train objective is a slog, elevator when you are exposed is doable, untill it jams and you have to run to TWO OPOSITE SIDES OF THE MAP, UP THE STAIRS AND CLICK THOSE DAMN BUTTONS NEARLY AT THE SAME TIME. All the while snipers, sorcerers and terminators snipe you from above. Not to mention reliquary final boss objectives. I mean god damn, those are a pain in the ass to do. While I absolutely love fighting chaos marines, there are tons of shit that ruin the fun and experiance of those operations. Those are just poorly designed experiances in my opinion. Why would I do them, when I can just do missions 1, 2 and 6 which are simple, straightforward, fast and just... honest. With better designed enemies.

[@michaelkelsey219]

One thing I hate is at higher difficulty I get worn down by their flame weapons that eat armor and health at the same time

[@gibster9624]

My issue atm is the Melta is fantastic against these bastards but I often need a ranged weapon because of snipers or the dumbest boss mechanic of having a boss unable to be melee'd.

[@grimmcrag8715]

If only every class had a side arm that could one or two shot the snipers...

[@Brian-ch6hg]

Nice tips. Thanks TV!

[@cykablyat3680]

The flamethrower aoe attack charge is way too fast, countless times they started, i saw it wnd dodged the moment they started and still took dmg, and when i finally get in melee range they teleport even 2 3 times, i hate this faction

[@jamcam5180]

My thoughts exactly. Can't even finish the back end of an animation and still have time to dodge

[@Gottagoslower]

Are you gonna stream again anytime soon?

[@anaknangfilipina5846]

Will the heavy strikes from TH work in knocking the goat men down for an Assault’s gun strike?

[@AtriplG]

The running attack will. Otherwise it's the charge up that takes too long.

[@IamDeathIncarnate1337]

solid tips!

[@thevillageyid]

On Operations I just avoid the exclusively Chaos maps. It's just not fun.

[@ScipioTTV]

Buff the chaos space marines, nerf the puny shield thralls

[@CalebO-l6c]

So much shield health infinite tp spam fire ring of 1 shot town AND TP MILES AWAY TO SUMMON MORE ADDS BEHIND A WALL LIKE BRUHHHH

[@ZzVinniezZ]

played chaos mission.....quit and go back to Tyranid instead boy why do i feel like Helldivers 2 all of the sudden? people tested automaton, got obliterated by robot because of range, all go back to bugs because melee enemy are less bullshit than aimbot enemy

[@acfangaming]

Am I alone in thinking that killing rubric marines should also stun/kill the tzanngors. Like it makes their connection to real space weaker? That seems to make sense to me and would help with the crowd control.

[@seanfisher7707]

Emperor-forsaken Zangors

[@TheNightWolf-WildCraft]

I need some ppl to play with my buddies couldn't handle it 😂😂😂

[@Pepitossj4]

Just stall with bulwark in a corner till the 120 seconds pass xd. They have to nerf bulwark shield asap

[@Freakluke274]

Best tip, don´t play assault in chaos missions. I know it is possible but not fun at all. Flamethrower Marine and you are in an animation? Your dead. Ranged Marine? Teleports away every 2 secound -> your dead. Ranged terminators? Have fun dodgin the rockets and still getting enougth damage that you cant recover it. -> your dead. The problem would be less if regaining contested health with melee weapons would be better, but it doesn´t matter it i hit 1 or 10 enemies with my hammer i only get about 5% hp back while the melta can heal you full if you hit 3 or more enemies. If a chaos mission is coming i switch to vanguard, the even without melta the perk that gives 10% hp on majoris melee kill is just so good. But sadly i like the Hammer..... ^^

[@TheCheeseslice9]

This looks like a job for the Black Templars...

[@ShapeshifterOS]

If you have a Heavy, Tactical, or Sniper class then Chaos is much easier to deal with.

[@abyssdaddy2281]

As for me, it’s simply less interesting to fight against chaos. You can't execute elites and kill a huge crowd around you, you don't have to choose between melee and ranged elites, melee elites don't exist, explosive barrels also don't exist outside of a couple of script spots. There are just far fewer mechanics to interact with and at the same time more annoying since everyone except the goats with shields shoots.

[@morexskulls7180]

Those little sniper dudes with the blue lasers do way to much damage for how big they are honestly I would be so happy if they just removed them from the game such dumb and annoying enemies

[@AxleDoomrod]

I really hope they just add 3 more missions with Tyranids.

[@TrueVanguard]

no. orcs and necrons

[@AxleDoomrod]

@TrueVanguard The necrons will 100% be more annoying to fight. All ranged damage, super tanky, teleportation and snipers. You want more of that?

[@williamcooper8599]

This is probably the best game of 2024. Seriously, can anyone tell me a better game released this year?

[@mich5559]

I heard that u got a back to your wall sir lol

[@skuirrelTV]

For the Emperor!!!

[@stephengraves8030]

Tzaangors, by the way. The ‘little goat bastards’ are called Tzaangors (Z-ang-ors) 👍 And they’re just and annoying in the lore.

[@Aducanyo]

Nah i'm still good on those chaos missions.

[@Svartsomkato]

I just Use melta

[@docuzi]

There's the automatons in Helldivers, and there's chaos in SM2

[@NobleRenegade7]

I guess I'm weird cause my heavy SHREDS them on ruthless without the multi melta

[@streven1331]

Agreed, heavy bolter is so much fun against chaos

[@sirsilco]

Show us.

[@streven1331]

@@sirsilco ok

[@DaReapa]

The shielded guys absorb way too much damage. That is the only problem otherwise its no that much worse asidd from their teleporting.

[@DeathsheadF6871]

lol or use melta weapons a a Broom and plasma pistol to take down elites. i hate the melta weapons because i havent had the need to be i a player group anymore in ruthless.. Ai are good enough. but yeah everything you have said fits all the rest of the weapon types/playstyle.. but Melta build with heavy i have never looked back lol. Tactical with grenade launcher unlimited ammo also is very good. i sill like the challenge but i dont like that some players just dont know how to play or go in with a low level character with no perks and gets deleted hahaha. funny stuff.

[@dr4l377]

Here we are months later chaos still isn’t fun to fight. It’s really sad thinking about how many resources were put into enemies that the player base finds annoying rather than fun and challenging :/. Space marine 3 needs to be just tyranids and like dark eldar or something. Chaos just doesn’t work in this game

[@grislyv2564]

Chaos is so unbalanced hard

[@gjl4101]

I really don’t think Chaos missions are that much harder (some actually easier) but the actual missions are so boring compared to Tyranids

[@neruba2173]

I dont actively avoid them but now that have already done all operations max difficulty I just think tyranids are more fun. Tzangors with shields are an annoying overtuned trash mob.

[@sirsilco]

Its not even something you overcome with skill. 20 shielded little goblin enemies, whos shields do not drop or break, can not be beaten by your everyday marines with Relic melta rifles. Lore accuracy, right?

[@SH1NK1R01]

Sadly the way the current progression of the game is designed there is no real reason to ever suffer through the headache of fighting these guys. Most if not all of their missions feel far more annoying to clear than the tyranid missions. And rewards are identical across all missions. Meaning that it is objectively superior to just play the missions that can be cleared the fastest. Those are all tyranid missions. So while his advise is good. It’s also not worth trying to be better at fighting an annoying enemy that is ultimately optional.

[@bradpitt5355]

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[@МетоМинчев]

Tip#1: Be a sniper

[@TeryonTheHuman]

They already said they’re nerfing chaos enemies and rebalancing armor and health so I’m just gonna wait for that. I don’t have the patience to deal with chaos marines eating my 3/4ths of a magazine in addition to 4 full melee strikes while they completely deplete the whole team’s resources with flamethrowers anymore. I’ve had enough. A man can only deal with so many teleports mid melee swing before they lose their sanity. Also for the love of god PLEASE do not listen to his advice on diving into a chaos spawn as assault on ruthless. Because if 2 or more chaos marines just spawned in you can pretty much say goodbye to your health bar. Hope you didnt have the gene seed.

[@TrueVanguard]

If you’re giving the gene seed to your assault you already didn’t belong on ruthless lol I kid but for real don’t do that.

[@derithor4391]

Only play Melta heavy when someone wants to play chaos at higher difficulties. Everything else is frustrating to use, especially with the shield tzaangors.

[@TeryonTheHuman]

@@TrueVanguard if EVERY class cant carry an item that important then that is the most clean cut example of horrendous balancing there can be. Every other class can carry it no problem. Assault can’t and that tells you all you need to know about the state of Assault. In any other case whoever finds it first or whoever the squad believes to be the most skilled player or the highest level would take it no matter the class. It’s not the Assault players fault the balance is so horrendous most of the playerbase wont even engage with 50% of the mode’s levels and he can’t engage with a crucial mechanic on anything other than standard difficulty or he doesn’t “belong” there.

[@mkenny1128]

Chaos enemies is where this game will lose a big chunk of its audience. No one likes playing the chaos missions. There are only 2 missions with no chaos enemies, and those two get too repetitive way to soon.

[@jamaledwards8118]

Ive been playing agaisnt chaos enemies to learn them better. As an assualt main your gun is your best friend. I would dive the snipers and kill all the small adds that shoot before i focus on majors. Do not dive on majors unless adds are cleared. This isnt the Tyranids they don't have the link mechanics. If you focus all of your resources on majors the adds will kill you. Best bet is to rope a dope shield enemies aka back step lounge with hammer or power fist and then perform gun break for sustainability. I do agree with tv focus the snipers first as they will make dealing with a hoard frustrating. Im not going to lie assault is probably the worst class for dealing with chaos enemies due to class being a dualist monster but not strong on crowd control. Assualt also have zero defense for dealing with all the range enemies when focusing on majors. I know TV said use a high accuracy gun but unfortunately the high acc gun usually have lower ammo. You need higher clips as enemies spawn a lot and the lack of ammo will be a thing. I honestly like the chaos missions more as i feel like they're more intense however I'm not feeling the adds being tanky like majors due to how strong their shields and range enemies are.

[@brandondenton5079]

yeah, i got the same jist of stratgey. there not the same which is really nice cause it adds so much replayability. the only thing i would change is the small enemies being able to block anything at all and replace him with a slighty larger version whos shield does block damage, like a minor major, to empahize having to take care of the ads first before the majors

[@piedpiper1172]

@@brandondenton5079I just wish those little leather shields broke faster. No amount of video game logic and warp magic will ever convince me a leather shield can tank more than one bolter round. One is already a heck of a stretch-particularly since my Kraken rounds apparently go through the shield to the guy behind, but don’t go into the guy holding the shield it passed through ??????

[@sirsilco]

As soon as you said "As an assault main", everybody stopped listening.

[@piedpiper1172]

@@sirsilco Don’t be that guy.

[@jamaledwards8118]

@@sirsilco this advice isn't for everyone.

[@PaperiLiidokki]

hehe roly poly simulator

[@spacesloth9529]

See a lot of comments about the shield demons. PSA: CHARGED HEAVY MELEE ATTACKS BREAK THEIR SHIELDS IN 1 HIT!!!

[@aidenbrailsford8916]

That’s a 1 v 1 they spawn in mass groups with ranged support. Chaos is just not worth the effort there is no advantage or benefit just drains you more and makes you get off sooner.

[@Exshooter101]

and you get stabbed by the other 5 of them while you attack one

[@xXOPxLunaXx]

Best way to deal with chaos, don't.

[@ShizMist]

Heresy

[@blakestewart7533]

Go easy on my dusty bois. They dont deserve it.

[@pwnagraphic690]

I found Chaos enemies being a lot easier lol

[@VDViktor]

You dodge/parry their attacks and attack them in return. There. All the tips you needed without a youtuber mentor lol

[@Ducky97743]

Except they rarely provide attacks that you can parry, and I find perfect dodges to be less reliable. Mainly they just shoot you and teleport after 2 melee hits.

[@64thReign]

Duuude I hate to play space marine and feel like a stupid souls character rolling around for days

[@piedpiper1172]

Tell me you’ve never read a single Black Library book without saying it. We are far less agile, and far slower, than Space Marines are described in the lore. Everyone seems fixated on DoW3 showing a terminator do flips, which was absurd, but seem to miss how massive the difference in terminator and power armor mobility is. That’s the entire point of the black carapace: Space Marines move in power armor literally as though it was weightless because direct neural engagement with the armor means it’s powered ceramite muscles move the armor. Veteran marines are often *faster* and more agile in their armor than out of it because they’ve mastered using the armor’s muscles to exceed their natural ability. This is a big part of what causes Transhuman Dread. Soldiers that big moving that fast is profoundly terrifying.

[@64thReign]

@@piedpiper1172 ok librarian, show me the codex astartes where doing ukemi front rolls is a main battle formation of kill teams and the sort "then the squad started doing their rolls all over the room, while they attacked the xenos" If you stopped smelling your own farts about how well versed in black library books you are, you would see that im not complaining about agility but more about THE MANOUVER itself, The roll is something the souls franchise is very well known for, more variety in the way a marine evades would be very welcome. So since the I havent read the black library also tell me where is the part where assault marines cant jump higher than titus, is that also something i should look in the blacl library coz he damn sure glides and almost flies while the assault marine barely can get to any place vs the gigantic mobility of titus which theirs arent a prototype or special units.

[@64thReign]

@@piedpiper1172 also No! librarian, i did not played DoW or any of the others warhammer games, My only games are SM 1, Boltgun and SM 2. So you can take that preconception of your terminator armor to others, me? I havent even seen wtv you are describing with the terminato

[@Koetaaa53]

chaos are so fucking easy :D:D:D ruthless is a joke :) we will see on the next difficulty

[@grimmcrag8715]

The reason people dont run chaos operations os because they dont want a challenge. They want an easy run so they can farm their materials and not to have to actually try.