Is William Nylander BETTER than Mitch Marner? | OverDrive Hour 2 | 09-25-24

[@Denimsmith2023]

Hayes loved the comment ‘you both have played sports at a super high level’ 😂

[@akumasdeception]

At this stage, I’d say Nylander. Marner I feel like reached his peak early on and hasn’t really improved that much the past couple of years. Marner also plays with Matthew’s which inflates his stats.

[@chevelle1]

🎯 Marner has the most lucrative spot/circumstances of any winger in the NHL. And has for most of his career. Alot of points by being a setup guy without the responsibilities of playing center, highest TOI, top PP time (never taken off), playing with the best scorer in the world (prior to that with other 40+ goal scorer) other line mates do the physical work, always on ice in last few minutes against an empty net, etc. The only question is how many of his points are inflated. Minimum 20-25 points. Marner is likely a 25g-45a-70 point player under normal top line winger circumstances. Still very, very good. But not at all in the elite category of players getting the biggest contracts. An 8 X 8.5M-9.5M would be fair value . I’m aware other desperate teams would probably overpay for him in FA, but he’d probably be on a bottom feeder and his point totals would only be more exposed to reality.

[@HimmyN]

​@chevelle1 lmfao. Marner was on 100 point pace playing with bozak, the amount of idiots in this market that keep shooting down Marner is insane. Marner is a top 20 player to ever play the game.

[@HimmyN]

It's also the other way around. Matthews scores so many because he plays with one of the best playmakers in history, open your eyes. The fact you went on a rant pretending to know what you're talking about is the funniest thing I've ever seen.

[@HimmyN]

"Marner is a 70 point player on a regular top line" 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡🤡

[@chevelle1]

@@HimmyNI’m not even a Leafs fan. You bring up a good point about maybe Marner is the reason Matthews scores like he does. But I’d point out while Domi was filling in for him when injured, he was racking up the assists too. But I’ll concede that Marner is a great reg season assist guy. Playoff hockey: He averages 1 goal per PO series, doesn’t drive a line, doesn’t “take over” games, avoids heavy contact and while subjective, he doesn’t have that will imposing intensity that playoff successful players have. You could get another perimeter, soft skilled $8M winger in his spot and there’d be essentially no drop off in the playoffs. And his demand to squeeze every last nickel out of cap during his last contract only puts him in the spotlight for this type of criticism. He demanded to be paid as a franchise player who can carry his team on his back when needed. He’s not that. Edit: For Playoffs, I’d take a Sam Bennett over Marner and have $6M in cap space too.

[@agarcia9502]

O dog is all over the place with Marner. My god man, make up your mind. Always feel the need to defend him and super quick to back track when he criticize him. The Ontario boys will forever stick together. Probably played a round with Paul and felt the need to get back in the Marner’s good graces. Weirdo move Odog.

[@justinpike1520]

It's not recency bias for me, I've always felt that Nylander is better than Marner.

[@paullacroix527]

Hmm lets see; WN- 603GP 217G- 311A for total of 528 points. MM- 576GP 194G-445A for a total 639P. Also MM is outstanding on the pk. So clearly MM is a better player. Most non-haters and sensible people would agree. I simply don't understand Bryan's hate on for the great Mitch. It's ridiculous just look at the freaking stats. BTW, MM is not responsible for playoff failures. The management and lousy coaching are to blame. They had no goalie and terrible defense. Funny because Bryan usually lets stats do the talking. Not with MM tho for some reason.

[@late3619]

October and November, sounds like Willie last year an then he dropped back to his normal stats.

[@jxbane]

Willy plays harder than Marner

[@nadaduo1765]

Theirs a myth that Nylander show's up in the playoffs and Marner doesn't Nylander 54 games - 43 points Marner 57 games - 50 points

[@chevelle1]

Great example of Marner’s inflated point totals d/t having the most lucrative job/playing circumstances of any winger league wide. Aside from that, playoff hockey is SO much more than PP and EN assists. He averages 1 goal per series. I’d take a Sam Bennett over Marner in the playoffs.

[@kristoffer7236]

@@chevelle1Agree 100% with everything you just said!

[@oliverquach9614]

@@chevelle1 Nylander scores more goals in the playoffs but defensively, Marner is the better two-way forward. In career playoffs, with similar games played and pt totals, Nylander is +1 and Marner is +10. If anything, Nylander is more of a PP merchant. I love both players though.

[@ed230]

Nylanders a clutch player scores when it matters not just playoffs

[@rickrobitaille8809]

That was the answer to that question 😁🇨🇦

[@thomasdidymus1393]

Nylander its not even close

[@foe-h7n]

its pretty close

[@oliviakoffman7837]

It was so dumb signing Willy for 11.5 when he was the hottest. It was very predictable he would cool off a bit. The price kept going up 10.5 11 11.5. Second half of the season he was on a 70 point pace after his 120 point pace signing.

[@lukeb4363]

How are there never time stamps. So bootleg

[@robb412]

Nylander comes through in clutch situation. Marnie disappears.

[@gordonbgraham]

Both have 3 GWG in the playoffs...Neither has played well enough to win

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Hayes 😁🇨🇦

[@fabiocitrullo]

Nylander is better simply because he is the only one that shows up when it matters

[@gordonbgraham]

Really? Maybe look a little deeper into his playoff stats...not so good

[@fabiocitrullo]

@@gordonbgraham looks like we have a smooth brain here. The maple leafs scored 3 goals in game 6 and 7, nylander scored all 3 of those goals. What else should I look at wank stain

[@fabiocitrullo]

@@gordonbgraham Shit maybe I missed something, in games 6 and 7 the leafs scored 3 goals. Nylander scored all 3 of those goals. But you know what he only had 3 hits too, basically did nothing I guess. Sorry Gordon

[@fabiocitrullo]

@@gordonbgraham you must be talking about the year before, my mistake. In games 4 and 5 against florida toronto scored 4 goals, he scored 2 of them. But im open minded dude. I think the 3 points in 7 games against Boston was more important. Hes always there when the team needs him. Especially when he wants to get paid

[@gordonbgraham]

@@fabiocitrullo I'm talking about in total. Nylander has 3 GWG in the playoffs, the same as Marner. That's in an 8 year span! Neither has played well enough to win.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Great question who asked it😁🇨🇦

[@mike4DDL]

Contracts at this level are all ego. The difference of 2-3 million per year is not that significant based on career earnings and endorsements by the time his career is over. He could be beloved in the city and make 10+ million, but will push past 12. To be clear, I don't fault the player, they should try and make as much money as possible in their career.

[@LiaIanKai]

Nylander is better based on his attitude. Marner has a shitty attitude. Watching him say he's not going to watch the NHL series on Prime like a little baby.

[@deahelkcunklaer2180]

He's a $9m until the playoffs when he becomes a $5m player.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Physics over anylitics 😁🇨🇦✔

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Analytics works when it 😂finally happens 😁🇨🇦😆🇬🇧🌐

[@KohPhanganSummer]

Playoff Marner can't even hold a candle to Sushi Diarrhea Nylander. Leafs don't need assists to get into the playoffs. They need the will and grit to get thru 2 or 3 rounds. Marner has zero.

[@timlee1794]

Nylander.

[@xrsroofingsolutionscanada2151]

Marner from day one. Nylander is a cherry picker break out pass guy period in the playoffs. Marner does it all and a 90-99 proven point player

[@dangraesser5341]

The only leaf that has played his game in the playoffs is Willie. When speaking of the forwards. Period end of story.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Just win Al Davis 😁🇨🇦🔥🇺🇸

[@gordonbgraham]

Marner

[@TMLDomain]

Nylander is better than Marner. Willy scored 2 goals and won Game 3 vs the Bruins all on his own. Matthews won Game 2 vs the Bruins all on his own. Tavares scored a hattrick vs Tampa the year before and the SERIES clinching goal. WHAT has Marner done? Ill wait ....

[@bentjensen9138]

Of course William is higher ranked then Marner. Somple he is the better player, flip Marner and Nylander. Nylader will have more points, his +- on PK is better then Marner. Marners games 5-7 in playoffs is a disater, not just last year it’s every year Odog look at the stats

[@GrandpasGaming]

The road to med....iocrity

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Be there😁✔🇨🇦🇺🇸🇬🇧🌐

[@TimothyGonzalez-h8w]

Martinez Eric Martin Scott Anderson George

[@rickrobitaille8809]

🇨🇦😁✔🇬🇧🌐😆

[@rickrobitaille8809]

😁🇨🇦✔

[@TimothyGonzalez-h8w]

Johnson Donna Gonzalez Maria Johnson Frank

[@dangraesser5341]

The odonkey says he doesn't know if the leafs will have success in the playoffs.. let me say it now.. they will not get through 2 rounds. Not a chance. Don't message me and say I'm wrong. Save your message until next spring. I'll be here then and if I'm wrong I will accept the criticism then.

[@andrewdenkers7618]

I’d put Marner as the second line Center. Matthews and Marner are considered the most reliable defensive forwards. So why not have your 3 headed dragon with Matthews Marner and Tavares down the middle. Throw Domi and Knies on Matthews line..Nylander and maybe Mcmann on the second and patches and Jarnkrok or Robinson on the 3rd.

[@TimothyGonzalez-h8w]

Moore Cynthia Martin Michael Clark Michelle

[@LeafNation67]

Marner all day and twice on Sundays. If you said best shinny player, that would be Nylander all day. Sick of this one dimensional soft, streaky eating getting top dollar on an unmovable contract. This signing is a downfall for the Leafs. From, a true Leafs fan!

[@robb412]

Marner is cry baby who defaults to perimeter play making in the playoffs. Too easily man handled and scared when it matters most.

[@rickrobitaille8809]

Who the hell cares😁🇨🇦✔

[@shakrmakr]

Yes