Tundra v. Frontier v. Santa Cruz v. Maverick Tech Wars: Which Truck Rocks And Which One Sucks?

[@TFLtruck]

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[@dickheder4940]

Why is it i get goose pimples wenever u show dat manscape commercial, or maybe its just me 😁

[@lesterparker1594]

So the infotainment screen, which people use all the time is worth 10 pts. And the voice control system, which I’ve never seen anyone use ever, including myself, is worth 2.5x more points. Your comparison could be better. Really should have flipped those. Infotainment should be 25 and voice control 10 or less

[@Rafegaret]

I agree. I never use voice control, way slower than pushing a button.

[@chrisfoster27]

I agree. Infotainment and temperature/fan controls should be worth the most. I also think they are a little spoiled with all the new vehicles they get to try out. If Apple car play/Android Auto works seamlessly WIRED it should be worth close to top points.

[@dad2817]

What they said !!

[@craterrick]

Totally agree!

[@brentworls8509]

And the adaptive cruise is only worth a handful of points? They forgot to test Android Auto. Nobody worth their stars in tech uses Apple that's years behind.

[@adventuresinreality2645]

Personally have never used voice control in my vehicles.. I see no need. Think the score is weighted to that a little much. Love the video as always.

[@spotdog19]

I agree that they gave that a little more importance than warranted BUT it is something that makes operating a vehicle more safely. That said I don't think it changes the rankings too much, probably brings the Nissan up closer to or ahead of the Hyundai. Toyota still the best and Ford slightly ahead of the other two. I also think they put a little too much emphasis on Apple Car Play. The whole idea of Apple Car play is to be able to operate phone controls without having to grab your phone, does it matter if it's plugged in or not at that point? I don't thnk so.

[@optimusprime3484]

Andre really likes that red start/stop button on the Tundra he mentions it every video.

[@Big.W.]

Where he comes from they press one red button and they send rockets off

[@jayrichards3672]

Someone from TFL always mentions how it doesn't have Tow Hooks, regardless😪

[@Z22-m5o]

I'd pay an extra 5k just for that red start button.

[@Rafegaret]

When reviewing new cars and trucks, I think that it is important to include details around each manufacturer's telematics offerings. Specifically, what is included free of charge, what costs extra, and what is included as part of a time bound promotion. This is especially relevant now, considering the recent pushback against Toyota and their key fob remote start controversy.

[@Combatpzman]

Yes, this is a must!

[@zachc1297]

Yep. The Maverick for example either comes with adaptive cruise, or no cruise. It is not a standard option at least up to an XLT trim. With all the different levels of tech in cars, it could mean some very long and not so entertaining reviews and the audience would only be active shoppers.

[@Combatpzman]

@@zachc1297 XLT has normal cruse standard or adaptive with 360.

[@davidmilhouscarter8198]

After watching this video, I'm glad that my truck does not have any of this tech.

[@k7gixxer1000]

Imagine subtracting 12% of overall points because a vehicle doesn’t have Bluetooth Apple car play. First world problems.

[@khakiswag]

There are usually no microphones on the passenger side, that’s why they can’t understand you. Voice command is for hands free driving, the passenger can interact with the system directly.

[@mattthorson9110]

In what scenario would the passenger tell the driver to hit voice command button to change the temperature. There is a temperature button right in front of them

[@donaldbroadfoot4967]

there is a microphone on both sides and the system intentionally ignores the noise from occupants. May work really nice when kids are making noise.

[@jsSeJaMs]

2022 Pro4x Frontier for me!! It meets what I need and want. #400 👍

[@scotturich]

I think adding the price to the bottom of each score would be helpful as well, as it kind of shows what you get for value for price paid. Ex I would be mad if the Tundra didn’t score the highest and it was disappointing to see the Frontier with such a low score simply because of the price you pay

[@chappo4845]

Yes, they could have weighted the price for each.

[@spotdog19]

That is a legit point. That Tundra starts at $66,000. Should we even be comparing it any of the other 3? Put it up against a Silverado, Titan and F150. In that group I'd probably go after the Nissan Frontier for the cost per tech point.

[@chiemekaa]

Note on Nissan voice commands. It requires you to select from the prepopulated menu choices on the screen, so when it asks "Please say or select a command" you have to pick from what's already on the screen. I know it's a painstakingly long process, but you'll get results if you follow that. But I thought you guys had done previous TFL car comparisons where you used the same Nissan/Infiniti system to "Navigate to Smurf's. At least I thought Andre had.

[@mvcharisma]

Most voice control systems don’t work from the passenger seat. I have a Maverick and the microphone is mounted near the drivers A-pillar. It would drown out a phone call with background noise if it was sensitive enough to listen for a passengers voice as well

[@CliffLoehr]

Lane centering is a pretty techy thing. Wish you had that on the list.

[@rhydynamic8306]

Impressed with the Mav

[@frh-freerangehuman]

Overall a fairly informative comparison. I think the weighting could be reconsidered. One thing I disagree with, in general, is that wireless CarPlay is superior to wired. Eventually you’ll have to plug your phone in anyway to keep it charged and I find Bluetooth sound quality is inferior to wired sound especially as battery depletes, even volume is less.

[@EdwardVarner]

I don’t understand the obsession Y’all have with wireless car play. There are several drawbacks like worse audio quality, quick battery drain etc. Some things are just better wired.

[@davehoffman515]

I've seen more reports of Android Auto wired connections having poor audio quality than Bluetooth. I have wired AA and don't notice a difference in quality going between bt and aa. Aptx is pretty common these days and compresses/decompresses without quality loss. As for battery drain, newer vehicles are coming with wireless charging pads as well. The Maverick for example has wireless charging but not wireless aa which is kind of a weird design unless you don't use AA or Carplay so you will be using Bluetooth anyhow

[@soccerslus]

When comparing apple carplay maybe also include points for Android Auto. Great video thanks!

[@khakiswag]

None of them have Androids

[@chikidd24]

Right the discrimination of it all 🥴

[@1coolvideo]

None of them want android. Lol

[@jayrichards3672]

@@1coolvideo they're suppose to review for the people 📊

[@bostondan77]

My vote for the system would be put less weight on voice recognition, I don't know anyone that uses voice recognition in a vehicle when available... I could be wrong here.

[@mattthorson9110]

I agree completely. The test should be how easy it is to change the station. Most of the time you can have presets that you can cycle through via a button on the wheel. Voice commands take way longer, and typically make you more distracted.

[@qwoozy]

100% I agreement. I drive a lot of different vehicles as part of my work fleet and one of the most aggravating things is how many button presses it takes in some to change the equalizer settings. Little things like easily selectable settings hotkeys make a huge difference in usability, and I suspect get far more use then a lot of the gadgets, although I do like the gadgets. For example, I really like Ford products but found out ridiculous that I had to go through 4 different menus to turn on a steering wheel heater until the 2021 models dropped.

[@smithjones1906]

I never use it, but that's partially because I take for granted that it will be terrible and not worth my effort. In principle, if there were a really good system, I think I would use it occasionally.

[@AkioWasRight]

We don't use them because they generally suck. But they suck because we've accepted the redundancy, rather than shaming the manufacturers for rendering them to a gimmick. IMO, any feature should not be given any less or more weight than another, but it should be measured by it's expected function and scored by how it meets that expectation.

[@chappo4845]

Not wrong.

[@nismo370z4]

You knocked the Frontier for the 4wd knob and that it doesn't have a lever like a Jeep - please remember this when your in a Tacoma and Tundra as well ! Always found it odd that the 4 Runner with the TRD off-road package comes with a lever but they used the knob on the Tacoma and Tundra !

[@tonymickle6700]

Its funny seeing all the old folks complaining about missing volume buttons and digital displays. Reminds me of the outcry when Apple took away the home button. I am an oldie as well, but like the digital displays and lack of volume buttons. I scored Adaptive Cruise based on buttons available but not the technology that it uses. The Santa Cruz and Maverick are so far apart on adaptive cruise controls. The Maverick has basic controls that I don't think even respond to vehicle distance. The Santa Cruz has distance measuring and will auto stay in the lane. If you were scoring the real cruise control the Maverick would get 1 for basics and Santa Cruz a 5 for the features you get. ...but that volume button score :D

[@98areece]

Would love to see the points per $1k for each of the trucks as optioned.

[@montyql]

Right on. Pricing should factor into all of these comparisons.

[@TribeChiefGaming]

I think this should be done for every single vehicle you review! Nice video, tons of information!

[@beowulfgrendel24]

What no points for the autonomous steering in the Santa Cruz or heated, ventilated seats and heated steering wheel? Ford and Nissan doesn’t offer it in the smaller trucks not to mention telescoping steering column. Then include apps such as remote start, setting AC and seat controls along with the digital key (no key needed). In reality the Hyundai wins the tech segment hands down. Rain sensing wipers and on and on 360 cameras and more

[@pedrolozano8733]

How does one make a video request? I would like to see a video where you guys compare the base model trucks across the board or apples to apples? I'm looking to purchase a new work truck but am not looking for all of the bells and whistles. So TFL, who makes the best base model tow truck??? The working class needs to know

[@ScoobyDigites]

Watching this kind of makes me appreciate the simplistic days of truck true 4x4 radio cranking out tunes and V8 rumble. I'm not against the tech but there's a refreshing feel when stepping out the modern ride into one of my classics.

[@pryme2013]

Buy a base level 3/4 ton. problem solved.

[@cwqrpportable]

I agree with you, but I go back further than you and appreciate the simplistic days of our brand new '70 Chevy C10 with a 250ci, 155 HP, 6 cylinder engine. My old man was cheap and would never buy anything other than a farm truck with a 3 speed on the tree manual transmission. Those were fantastic trucks, worked hard around the farm and we did most of our own maintenance.

[@Wicked_Runs]

I think the cameras should be part of this but great job none the less

[@Christian-kj4ox]

Only complaints about the review was the “change the temperature to 70 degrees” and deducting points for no wireless car play.

[@cashman37able]

I dont think its right that the Ford Maverick and Hyundai should be competing with the Toyota and Nissan. I think it should be the Ranger. People won't be saying should I buy a Maverick or Tacoma, they will be saying should I buy a Ranger or Tacoma

[@francoisdenis]

Hello, I think the team is doing a great job! You guys should consider adding a new item to your list: the infotainment contrast at night and its adjustability. Some systems are doing a great job during the day and awful job at night, even blaring the driver! It even differs from Apple CarPlay/Android auto to the native system. It should be part of the scoring in my mind. Keep up the great work!

[@alaskaaudioguy35]

Wish you did the new f150 and new ram their infotainment system is advanced

[@bryangoyette5364]

Voice control only works from the drivers seat on just about all cars. The mic is above the drivers head

[@donE37100]

Steering wheel controls should be worth 25 points and the adaptive cruise should be worth ten points

[@MeliorIlle]

For the Nissan Frontier you have to say audio then the command that is available. You can't just press the button and say whatever you want.

[@jdsullivan21]

Yes, but from a Frontier owner I would prefer not to have such a structured voice recognition system. Why add the extra step of saying "audio" when there are no other options to "tune" something.

[@MeliorIlle]

@@jdsullivan21 No recognition system is like that.

[@georgegkourlias7]

hello from GREECE

[@AkioWasRight]

You are just influencing each other by debating what to score it. I think rather than debating back and fourth on a score for each category, you should each be allowed to score. After that, you can add it up or just average it out.

[@AK_Ray]

Can we just take a moment to recognize that the least expensive vehicle tested, by like a lot, still pulled a second place finish.

[@brentworls8509]

The Maverick wouldn't lose any features when dropped to a sub-30k XLT.

[@dad2817]

But lets be honest the scoring system was silly. The santa cruz system is far superior.

[@AK_Ray]

@@dad2817 not $5,000 "superior"

[@dad2817]

@@AK_Ray money has nothing to do with this test.

[@AK_Ray]

@@dad2817 ok

[@SmokeyBear464]

You guys are the best in the business when it comes to reviews!

[@greathornedowl3644]

Andre and Tommy, interesting review as always. Manscape great product placement

[@collinsimmons7156]

What about doing a test on how they handle on the road, where they spend most of their time. Three laps around your test track will determine handling and braking distances and how they handle.

[@Afig24]

I don't understand how 90% of the Tundra voice command attempts failing miserably constitutes a "15 out of 25". I would give it a 5 tops.

[@TribeChiefGaming]

The Frontier Pro-4X (top of the line) and the Santa Cruz (not top of the line) has only about $6k between them and there’s a higher level the Santa Cruz could go to get a wireless Apple Car Play? I know I’m not getting the Santa Cruz if I had to choose because even more utility!

[@edwardpeters4700]

This is excellent information. Aside from actual drive controls, a vehicle's infotainment system is one of the most important end user satisfaction pieces out there. A poor infotainment system can ruin an otherwise exceptional vehicle for many drivers.

[@javilink7]

You forgot to score the most technologically advanced feature in modern vehicles: autonomous driving. The Hyundai has a level 2 system.

[@armandoarmenta1942]

Yall should do the 21 f150 21 ram 1500 and the 21 Silverado and the 22 tundra

[@LordZareth]

I would definitely change the scoring system. Too many points on voice control and carplay/android auto. Scoring system I'd use: Infotainment - 20 Points Voice Control - 10 Points Car Play/Android Auto: 20 Points Volume Control: 10 Points Heated/Cooled Seats & Steering Wheel: 10 Points Adaptive Cruise/Lane Keep Assist: 10 Points Steering Wheel Control: 10 Points Drive Mode/4WD Control: 10 Points

[@dnlcast2]

Its obvious They're getting paid to give Toyota the most points.

[@bennyb8809]

need a comparison of tundra vs f150 for interior/exterior/driving and overall score!

[@ramrider1453]

I agree. Don’t include Ram for we all know it rates at 1000 points for interior/exterior/ driving and overall the best. 😄💪

[@CaptainToddB]

@@ramrider1453 nobody cares that you like rams.

[@ramrider1453]

@@CaptainToddB People do care. Ram owners there kid and the ones like you that need to gain more wisdom…. That’s ok kid. When you get older you shall gain wisdom.. Be patient. Cheers sweetie..

[@CaptainToddB]

@@ramrider1453 Merry Christmas little boy! I hope you got a different truck for Christmas.

[@peterkaputsos4125]

Good info. Think to be really useful it needs to be planned better based on manufacturer capability and defined scoring criteria - standard versus optional, etc. Scoring was a bit subjective. However, I think great to refine and continue as more vehicles become available. Thanks TFL

[@tom0428]

that maverick looking pretty solid for a city truck that's under 40k.

[@KB-bh9hp]

Yeah, we're going to order a Maverick xlt hybrid, the price should be about 25k, insane value.

[@dearbulls]

Definitely Santa Cruz without watching. Many cars only have mic on the driver side, so probably test the temperature with Andre. Santa Cruz basically didn't pick your voice of setting temperature I think.

[@williamallen5369]

Nissan should get a higher score because of the standard Nissan safety suite.

[@Rhyno888]

Tech cost above base 0-10 Car play 0-10 Cluster screen 0-10 Cluster menu usability 0-10 Infotainment lag 0-10 Infotainment screen 0-10 Voice commands 0-10 Steering wheel controls 0-10 Volume nob 0-5 Cruise control 0-5 4wd / drive modes 0-10 This seems like a better scale IMO

[@dukekelloway5328]

You guys never mention android when talking truck tech which is kinda not helpful for the majority of buyers. Let's face it these vehicles are often international and the vast majority of the world doesn't do apple.

[@howiekearney]

Seriously you give 25 pts each to Apple car play and voice control???? What a dumb comparison really. Certainly automotive tech like adaptive cruise, Lane departure, blond spot monitoring etc are more important than those.

[@BadgerStoatDragon]

Idk about anyone else but maybe go over the number or whatever the score is a little bit more so it reads on the camera better

[@dbeardsley0]

The 2021 Ram and F150 have gotta be the best in this category. Or most categories, sorry Chevy and Toyota

[@Graceharris7467]

What a surprise. The most expensive truck has the best electronics... Great content guys.

[@Infiniteperspective1111]

TFL. You have the platform to help us voice our opinions and concerns. As for Toyota turning remote start into a subscription, please make lots of noise. We do not need ti go backwards. Its time that all vehicles should have remote start, what's next remote locks on subscription-only?

[@blt198998]

I don’t think the adaptive cruise stuff really matters. At least for me, it’s more annoying than anything and I never use it

[@timmyjan]

what about deducting points for touch buttons or capacitive buttons

[@tnguy13]

This review felt very subjective. It seemed that it was somehow promoting the tundra... or trying to. You laughed at the other vehicles, but when the tundra had problems it was "let's try this".

[@user-pt6io2cq9n]

100% agree. This was biased towards the Tundra and they did not even mention price of the Tundra after mentioning the price of every other truck.

[@oogleboogle123456789]

not to mention they based the gage cluster on what you could get if you bought the really high end model not what they had

[@JBD-mr5od]

Hey TFL I have a question that I’m hoping y’all can help me with here. So I have a 2013 Ford F-150 and it’s recommended tire size is 265/70R17. The tires that came on my truck when I bought it are 265/65R17. And my speedometer is off slightly. If I wanna go 60 miles per hour my speedometer shows I’m going about 64. Will me getting the correct tire size help my speedometer read the correct speed? I love y’all’s channels btw

[@aricnellis2369]

For voice recognition it seemed to have trouble hearing from the passenger seat. I wonder where the microphone is located in the different trucks.

[@meathead585]

They've placed the infotainment screen on the Maverick where the center a/c vents should be. Those vents are too low on the dash.

[@SPcamert]

Did someone intentionally put that space between the p and l in Carplay? Carp lay?

[@davidmilhouscarter8198]

1:40 It looks like part of the screen is cut off on the right.

[@chrisfoster27]

Ford will put a bigger screen in the Maverick in future years and left "room to grow"

[@tedolsen6251]

I like your KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) scoring methodology. I would like to see more of a deep dive into how each technology function performs but in more detail. For example, take 10 voice commands that would be common across all automobiles and for lane assist and cruise control test 3 or 4 basic functions for each and score.

[@herawynn1397]

Only extra i think the Hyundai should get is on the main cluster, that blindspot camera in there is a HUGE option

[@johnmoore3504]

Yep the blind spot camera on the Santa Cruz is such a great idea. A co-worker had that feature on his Honda and I was like - why doesn't everyone have this?

[@swami539]

All are good vehicles however for my needs the frontier suits me better but it’s good that there is a vehicle for everyone

[@DanSomethingOrOther]

Love the idea of rating tech, but that was so off the cuff, it provided no quantifying data. Create a 1 to 5 point system for every aspect that add that up. Infotainment: Height & Width - Dimensions Usable? Some are wide but not tall and not great for Nav. Is the size too big and obtrusive in the cab? Overkill? Use a stopwatch for response time. How many menus to get to your goal? Count the clicks. Are the menus intuitive or are they hidden? Not just Apple but Android. Wireless/Wired. Wireless charging - does it work well? USB stick connection for music - where and search ability Glare? Ability to switch from often used screens (music, nav, phone, specialty use) Voice Control - not only fail/ success, but time to accomplish. Customization of vehicle through system (lights/ locking/ seats/ presets …) Safety Suite & customizations. Ability to upgrade system. Gauges: What can you monitor? Can you alter based on need? I.E. Temps if towing. Heads up display Drive modes: Number of? Are they really different and useful? Ease of use on changing them. Location, Location, Location. Steering wheel controls, ease of use, and placement. Location of all controls for usability.

[@feedrate1]

idk if I missed the full size trucks.? but you should do this with the full size trucks.

[@racingfortheson]

What happened to “Navigate to Snarfs”?

[@buzzpedrotti5401]

Many fails among the successes. The ongoing battle between tech UI features & simple vehicle operation is fascinating. So much entropy, where payload, a lift, underbody protection, OR tires and a locking diff would suffice.

[@joeerau]

Why did TFL abandon the use of your off road truck score system? I thought it was a pretty good way of estimating the abilities of factory packages in the real world.

[@debatelover]

Definitely realized that I don't mind plugging my phone in. Also that some rate budget trucks as 60k trucks

[@Swapp_Shop]

I know you guys do mostly stock vehicles. However I would he highly interested in you guy comparing different suspension lift brands for the jeep JL.

[@999erg]

I don't care about all the tech stuff in vehicles I'm happy with my 4 inch non touchscreen in my 15 f150

[@chappo4845]

Voice Control - not important. They all make Siri look good! Infotainment is all about ease of navigation. How easy is it to switch tunes or change the temp. In ancient times you could drop a degree with a single action. These days some vehicles need multiple actions just to access the right screen. I think the infotainment test should be done whilst moving. Did the Tundra have a home button? Still, love your work.

[@bigdiddy45]

You should include a cost metric in your scoring.

[@kross1261]

Interesting video. Now compare all the full size trucks. Interesting how many issues you had. I think manufacturers really need to work on the reliability and ease of use of these systems. Recently had an older friend that went out looking to buy a new truck and was intimidated by all the tech and decided to buy used just for that reason alone. I put some of the blame on the salesman for not taking the time to better explain it to him.

[@poppafuze]

HVAC knobs when not looking. Need a score for that.

[@johntarlton6691]

What is funny that I just bought a 2021 kia rio base model, I don't even have cruise control but it comes with wireless android auto

[@wholeeawn]

The sel Santa Cruz has a slightly smaller screen but has wireless car play and a type o volume knob

[@mikefoehr235]

When I saw the joystick slop in the Frontier and then the solid feel of the Tundra volume knob, well i was not surprised...every single Toyota we have owned, the switch gear is like SWISS MADE. Toyota knows how to make all switches feel top notch. I have never been a voice command person...I prefer doing it the old fashioned way.

[@wildhorses4x4]

Out of all languages you decided to speak facts

[@1coolvideo]

Also, with Apple CarPlay, you don’t need voice control. Just say “hey Siri” and the command. Check weather, maps, SiriusXm, etc.

[@daweed980]

Should include overall value as a metric to rate as well

[@LV4TD101]

Why not put a poll out for "us" the consumer to vote what tech features are really important to us, then use that to rate the system. You guys do a great job but due to the masses of vehicles you test I always felt what you guys feel is important, is trivial and not always what I feel is important. When it comes to trucks to me things that make the truck experience better are important. I have an Andriod phone so don't care about apple car play. Cameras and nav quality are very important, voice commands are not. Whether its a volume knob or button means nothing to me, Towing tech is important especially if its a new feature that really helps that the others manufactures don't offer. Just to name a few.

[@turbo_lander7301]

So points are subjective in some categories?

[@scotw67]

TFL: Toyota Fanboys Life

[@andrewg9236]

Or TFL Toyota fanboys lounge..😂

[@normt430]

...Chevrolet Silverado1500 Hybrid is the only hybrid in the full-size truck segment. Compared with comparable, non-hybrid models, it delivers 33-percent greater city fuel economy and a 23.5-percent improvement in overall fuel economy, all with the capability customers want in full-size truck - including a 6,100-pound (2,767 kg) trailering capacity. Estimated fuel economy for both 2WD and 4WD models is 20 mpg in the city and 23 on the highway...." GM Media with a larger 300-volt battery and 6.0l V8 circa 2012!

[@phillepheel]

8inches minimum huh…. I see Andre prefers the black trim😂😂😂

[@atvseatexchange2176]

Too bad this tech crap is the focus of so much time and effort. I guess you all ride around comparing options with other "Truck Owners" and wondering what to do with "Ball Toner" when your shorts are as empty as your head. It's a TRUCK.

[@cwqrpportable]

OMG, funniest comment yet! True though.....

[@BZ1340]

Hmm. Test those screen functions and steering wheel controls with gloves on. PLUS the HVAC systems. Thats a true test for us in colder climates..NO wireless is an archaic build

[@grabir01]

Toy is best. It is also fugly front end. Also. Toyota will now be charging a subscription fee for its FOB's . What?

[@fubarmedic4222]

The auto start is not available to “buy” as a standalone feature when buying the truck. That’s why they can offer it as a “subscription” they give it to you for free at first then if you want to keep it you will have to pay. It’s sneaky and very corporate but at least they don’t charge you twice.

[@grabir01]

@@fubarmedic4222 There is more to it.

[@jamesprice3423]

Do you guys ever read the owners manual?

[@atmartens]

Honestly, it’s sad that Nissan did so poorly for being such a “new” truck. I liked this review. Not only does driving a vehicle matter, but how it’s technology is set up is a big deal.

[@J-W.-]

I think Nissan did well. It's a truck that does what trucks are supposed to do. Do some trucks do some things better sure but I would say far from a poor truck.

[@MiniatureChickenChannel]

The preview clip/giff for this vid is showing the ball shaver advertisement lol.....good choice YT 🙄

[@scotthubert1516]

Why does the full size tundra belong in this group?

[@officialyasir]

Anybody else miss TFL’s patented buddy reviews? I sure do!