Tundra vs. F-150: You'll Be Surprised How The Oldest Truck On The Market Compares To The Newest!

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[@seumasmackinlay]

Thorough comparison -nice job. 👍😁

[@partner348]

looks like apples to oranges in the first 7 minutes

[@alphamale6097]

Yes sir! 👏

[@L8nitedave]

I didn't see any mention of moon position or apparent apogee angle.

[@crosbylennon6418]

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[@bishopavi7999]

@Crosby Lennon Instablaster =)

[@edlyli7166]

Compare again when they reach 200000 miles cost and repair. Thank you

[@skipgumphrey9579]

That’s EXACTLY what I thought. I’m a Ford guy and I’ve owned numerous F series trucks through the years up to and including the vaunted 7.3 Powerstroke diesel. I still enjoy multiple Mustangs for my performance fix, but I’ve drifted away from the Ford trucks. I had numerous problems with the supercharged 5.4 in my 02 Lightning, and even had problems with my Coyote powered 16 F150 Supercrew. I’m now handling my truck duties with a 17 year old Toyota with 4.7 V8 and 4x4. It’s coming up on 300,000 miles yet has less creaks and rattles going down the road than my 13,000 mile new Performance Pack Mustang GT. Ford has nothing on Toyota’s build quality that’s for sure, and despite approaching 300k, I wouldn’t hesitate to drive the Toy across country. Does the new F150 have better tech ? Yes I’d say in feature and tech it won the comparison, but XL versus Limited trim at the same price point, and factoring in build quality and reliability I’d take the Toyota and laugh my way past a quarter million miles :)

[@ElectronicsForFun]

Yeah everybody likes to call the v8 an old man's engine, but 200,000 and 10 years later all of that electronic shit in the power boost will rot especially here in phoenix. This city is known for destroying electronics in cars.

[@wade6430]

Im right their with you, I keep my vehicles as long as possible, but most ppl enjoy blowing $ on new vehicles.. Bells and whistles good for 3-4 yrs (mostly under warranty), so if one is switching vehicles frequently, Id go ford.. NOT! If ppl stop buyn ford for flash, theyd fix their durability issues..

[@wade6430]

@Car&Track7 Your right forums are great source of information, & their are some good batches. Its not as good a source for information as ur forums, but workn at ford dealer, or workn for marketing at ford, ud find out americans love pigs with lipstick, especially if neighbor jas one... Or use alil CS, look at percentages and profit margins.. What is frustrating, ford has capability, they chose profit.. but what do ik, i dont "know a guy" nor do i have a forum, just my penny to lay beside ur peso

[@LaneHadway127]

Bingo. If the Ford makes it that far...

[@tameraortiz7485]

I come from a Ford family. I even drove an '78 in Ranger in high school. All of them had issues at or before 100,000 miles. I just figured all trucks were like that. My Dad was always replacing something, engine parts, transmission, fuel pumps, etc.. However, in 2008 my husband and I got a new '08 Tundra and now almost have 300,000 miles on it and the engine, transmission etc is still original. We haul about 4,000 lbs on it all of the time and it's still got power and runs like the day we got it. Ford still has a home in my heart for the memories but I don't think we could ever go back to another brand of trucks after experiencing the unbelievable reliability of a Toyota Tundra.

[@TheSheepDogPatriot1776]

Rangers have always been bad, F150 series are pretty good.

[@tameraortiz7485]

@@TheSheepDogPatriot1776 I agree, the F150 isn't too bad. My Dad has a super nice 2017 F150 Lariat which is nice but it's needed several parts replaced and it's about 4 years old. We also had an F150 before we got our Tundra but it had it's issues too, and we only had it for 2 years, leaky this or that. It was in the shop at least 3 times a year at only 60,000 miles. But our Tundra hasn't been in the shop for almost 7 years now except for maintenance. Before that, we had some upgrades done like custom lights, etc. I don't think that counts as being in the shop though. We trek across rough dirt and muddy roads when deer hunting etc. I mean, it's still got everything original except our Bilstein shocks. I still can't believe it. I'm almost convinced that it will make it to million miles. 🤞🙂

[@glenatgoogle4393]

I've had many brands over the years. The ONLY one that allowed me the distinct "pleasure" of wearing down my shoe leather was a Toyota. (No cell phones back then.) Had more Fords than any other. One minor problem, on one car, noted and fixed within the first 10 days of driving. My comment, and yours, are anecdotal and really mean almost nothing in the long run. The realty is that the consumer will spend their $$$ on what they want. Have a junk product and people will stop buying it. So who are consumers spending their truck $$$ on? Generally speaking, Ford will sell as many full sized trucks in 6 weeks as Toyota will sell in a whole year. Oh and speaking of '08 Tundra, --- have you had the frame replaced? (I'm not joking.) Here you can see it being done in time lapse of about 2 minutes. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jJK1cpmerJ2NaqM Search "Toyota Frame Rust Recall", you can find lots of articles about it.

[@TheSheepDogPatriot1776]

@@glenatgoogle4393 from what i gather the only other truck better than the Ford F series, is the Toyota Tacoma. As tundras i hear tell suck.

[@tameraortiz7485]

@@glenatgoogle4393 We had our undercarriage sprayed with rust protectant when we first got it. So, no issues there. Thank goodness. But I have heard about that. I'm glad they replaced for everyone that needed to have it replaced at no extra cost. ;)

[@97I30T]

I've always been a Ford guy and I love F-150s but if you're going to keep your pickup for 10+ years then the Tundra is the one to have. It's a simple truck that just works. The gas mileage with the Tundra is a bummer but I'd rather pay for gas than repairs.

[@daniele.644]

This is my dilemma in 2022 with national gas prices averaging well above $4.00 a gallon, and trying to decide between a used F-150 and a used Tundra. As I calculate it, at current fuel prices with the Tundra I'd be spending over $3,800 more than the F-150 over 100,000 miles of driving in fuel costs alone. What are the odds I'll have $3,800 in repairs on the Ford considering I drive 20,000-25,000 miles a year? Repairs suck, and you do have to factor in the cost of your truck being out of commission for a few days while broken down as well, but it seems like I might spend that money with the Ford, but I'll definitely spend it with the Toyota. Kinda leaning Ford for that reason.

[@dre8181]

It’s the driving habits that make poor gas efficiency and Ford is converting the f150 into a car, 10 speed trans with 3.55 gear ratio lol sounds like a mustang with a box and 4 doors

[@1FiftyOverland]

I still have my 2015 2.7l f150. Has 156,000 miles. I think I made the right choice.

[@justinhinchman6539]

I blew 3 turbos in an 3.5 ecoboost within 37,000 miles on the truck. I have 73,000 on my 5.7 Tundra and have had zero problems and it runs just as strong as when I bought it.

[@Big.W.]

Were you using regular gas instead of premium?

[@kenphilpot1903]

How did you blow 3 turbos ? Had to be a issue somewhere else .

[@calebniederhofer6529]

@@Big.W. That does not matter. It is designed to run on 87

[@Big.W.]

@@calebniederhofer6529 Owners manual recommends 87, but recommends premium for severe duty / towing / high altitudes. Honestly I would always put 93 to be on the safe side.

[@calebniederhofer6529]

@@Big.W. Number one , If he blew 3 turbos then either he heavily abused the truck , or is being lied too . This makes zero sense at all. In fact the odds of this happening are like 1 in 10 million. Something is definitely not right. It is designed for 87 , unless tuned. It really is for more power . Running 87 is not going to cause reliability issues . The reason for running higher at high elevation is because of the performance , power loss. So yes , If you are towing at 6k elevation run higher octane.

[@jmedure]

I owned a 2017 Tundra and now a 2020. No issues with either one. Can't beat the big V8 power, sound, and reliability. Love the old school!

[@CJColvin]

Same here brother.

[@chrisanderson5860]

I agree 100%! I love my 2017

[@jamesrozario4123]

I think they should have kept the atf cooler for longer term reliability but other then that solid truck

[@jmedure]

@@jamesrozario4123 I agree! I didn't realize that Toyota had gotten rid of it until after I got mine. I haven't had problems as a result, but I'd rather have a trans cooler than not.

[@Jdplayz-bq4ys]

love the F-150's. Many of my friends get new ones every 3-4 years or so and put lots of miles on them and they have had no issues.

[@takeister]

I have a 2019 Tundra with "from the factory" Toyota tow mirrors! They are indeed available.

[@pem3480]

09 has that too from the factory

[@LifeofJoban]

The difference is the tundra will still be rolling in 10 years with half a million miles and the person with the ford will have replaced that truck 3 times.

[@luyennguyen2010]

it will cost $143,000 on gas with Tundra. IT will cost $83,000 on gas with 3 F150 ( if it happened , there are a lots of F150 over 300 k., and not much Tundra over 300 k). Tundra pollutes 20,800 gallons of gas more than F150, please save our Earth. Also, producing 3 F150's ( if it happened ) makes more jobs for us. Thanks

[@LifeofJoban]

@Tron Apostle no fake hype, I own a 2008 tundra sr5 with 320,000 miles. Also you’re talking about oil fields... I’m in trucking so we both know what happens in the oil fields lol.

[@garymcscary5329]

lol...ya ok.

[@LifeofJoban]

@Tron Apostle I own a fleet of 6 trucks all glider kits 13 spd 500 Detroit Coronado’s. My tundra has 320k, my 04 land cruiser has 290k and my Lexus LX570 has 200k. I’ll stick with Toyota 👍🏼 not that fords are not reliable but almost every regular consumer who has one drivers it for 80/90k and sells it. I’ve had mine forever and never even thought about needing to sell it. I’m pretty sure it’ll hit half a million miles without any issues. Hell there’s a tundra with a million miles with a 4.7, mine has a 5.7 so even if it goes half a million I’ll be happy.

[@TheMrDamp]

@@luyennguyen2010 lol “please save our earth” but promotes getting three trucks instead of one. You think that’s good for the earth????

[@trubass75]

Andre is my go to guy. He gives so much detail.

[@danielcastorena3057]

I still believe that F150 is not worth 52,000! That's insane lol. For an XL!? Thats a work truck trim level. Id say 30,000 for the XL crew cab 4x4, and 8,000 for the premium powertrain. 38,000 to $40,000 MAX!

[@slscamg]

Well once supply is back to normal. You can expect $10k off msrp and most work trucks won’t have all the packages he added and probably use the 5.0 or 2.7 ecoboost.

[@danielcastorena3057]

@@slscamg could be, but just imagine the average Joe American paying 52,000 for an XL with Powerboost Plant. If you finance that amount even with a low APR i can't see this truck at 60k after ttl and finance 🤯. I don't know if it's the production delay or the Companies just bumping their price, but definitely over priced and over paid for that blue oval.

[@JW-hf1oc]

Agree completely. It’s interesting to see what the used market is on the hybrid F150

[@luyennguyen2010]

XL without Powerboost and FX4 is much cheaper

[@danielcastorena3057]

@@luyennguyen2010 like 22,000 cheaper? I still don't see 22,000 if you add FX4, XL premium package, and Poweboost.

[@jebsdaddy141]

Drink when Andre says "Tie-Yota"

[@Big.W.]

Tayorra**

[@bakhtiyarpakhirdinov2461]

That is because of Russian accent so vodka is the drink of choice. In Russian it is said 'T-a-i-ota'.

[@colt4528]

😂🍻🍻

[@Bookerdevin101]

Powerboost sounds like some shoe from Adidas

[@alanj7306]

I’m already wasted after just this video haha 🤣

[@wc4201]

Better idea. Let’s compare say a 2008 F150 vs 2008 Tundra. Let’s look at reliability, cost of repairs over its life and true cost of ownership. Let’s also look at how many are still on the road by percentage produced. Let’s tear into the transmission and motor to look at the wear over say 300k miles. That would be a great review.

[@Pantelifts10]

Do a quick search for similar age and mileage f150 vs Tundras for sale and you'll get your answer. My 2010 runs like new and I use it for work daily. No repairs yet other than 1 set of brakes and tires if you can call that repairs..

[@robertoortiz447]

@@Pantelifts10 04 Tundra present, zero mechanical or any problems

[@ernestjohnson1807]

Ford would pay a mint to keep that off the net.

[@MrPAULONEAL]

2008 Ranger vs 2008 Tacoma

[@alecw7063]

there’s some dude on tiktok with almost a million miles on his 2011 f150 3.7

[@kstid26]

I'm Tundra guy. MPG sucks, but the reliability is what I was concerned with most. Have a 21 TRD Pro. May trade it in a few years down the road if the new Tundra proves to be as reliable as the old.

[@scottyellis3442]

Keep the Toyota's, I've always been a ford guy myself but my buddy has 2 tundras, 1 with 350,000 miles & the other with over 500,000 miles with no serious issues, so my next truck, cars will be Toyota's.

[@marrsrovermarrsrover430]

I love Toyota but man the 2nd gen tundra’s body style does not do it for me.

[@titirititiri6360]

And best resale value

[@GrandPines323]

Basically the same money out of pocket. Tundra - fuel F15O - repairs

[@titirititiri6360]

@@GrandPines323 not even close, because the f150 does not hold its resale value, f150 has a 44% depreciation, tundra has 16% depreciation

[@matthewmcdowell4261]

For some reason Toyota decided to stop installing transmission radiators on the Tundra starting in 2019. I don’t think that was a smart move.

[@Bosha92]

Seeing how well my dads 2016 Tundra held up compared to my much newer 2019 Ram. Give me the Tundra all day!

[@jakebirkmaier5703]

Your 2019 ram is already giving you issues? How many miles?

[@toddstarrett3846]

I have a 2020 Ram and love it. Pulls what I need to pull.

[@juliusp8269]

Yea but you bought a chrysler product, number one issue...

[@toddstarrett3846]

@@juliusp8269 Owned but separate. And why does that matter. RAM trucks are very good trucks. It doesn’t tow as much as the F150 but gets better mileage, better interior and rides better.

[@juliusp8269]

@@toddstarrett3846 ride quality and interior are a matter of opinion, but reliability is not. But to each their own, it's my opinion that I would never buy a chrysler product and their terrible, but people buy what they want.

[@kwmulligan]

I'm hearing alot of horror stores with those turbos, I bought the 21' Tundra, no regrets. Pay at the pump, or pay at the shop!

[@shadowmutt]

i agree with the turbos .they can give nice boost , but you need to take care of them .

[@Annihilator105]

Horror stories? Plenty of ecoboost motors have made it well over 100k without any issues. The motor is pretty reliable. Toyota is following with a similar concept in the next gen too. Average owner once again owns a vehicle for 5-7 years 100-120k miles.

[@kwmulligan]

@@Annihilator105 Yep!. Horror stories... Toyota will get it right, regardless of the engine, others? Not so much

[@Annihilator105]

@@kwmulligan I disagree, the big 3 have caught up big time to the tundra. Toyota hasn’t made very good engines in years, so I would like to them see them actually make something for once. 3.5 Atkinson is a garbage motor, 5.7 is very outdated, and Toyota likes to borrow engines from other manufacturers for other halo cars like the Supra and 86.

[@Annihilator105]

Next gen tundra is finally adopting coil springs in the rear and a 3.5TT motor. Borrowing ideas from ram and Ford each.

[@migo022]

I own 2015 Tundra since new no problems with my truck biggest job I have done on it was water pump at 80k which turned out to be leaking gasket pump was still good. Yes gas mileage sucks but you get truck that doesn't fall apart by the time you pay it off. I am at 110k miles and hope to get another 100k before I consider new truck only reason I would trade/sell earlier if gas prices hit $4+ a gallon. It is outdated...yes I got chance to drive F150 3.5 Ecoboost must admit i was impressed how smooth accelerates and shifts interior was nice but not mind blowing. Tundra is also simplest truck without many bells and whistles to brake and give you headache. In the end depends what you looking for when you want to buy a truck if you want latest gadgets tundra isn't for you. If you want raw power reliability and years of headache free ownership and don't care for gas mileage then get tundra.

[@warrenstephens3705]

If you really work your trucks HARD and drive lots of miles you need a Ford F-150 unless you have extra money to throw away. I get 300k miles+ out of my F150's before I replace them for another one. I drive 90% of the miles on Texas gravel/oil field back roads, which are rough and dusty to wet and muddy in places so I use my 4x4 several times a DAY. I feel like a person who drives on the highway and takes care of the F150 could easily get a whole lot more miles out of them than I do. I normally average 17-18mpg. I like the Toyotas but they just can't compete with the Ford in cost of ownership divided by the total miles driven, not even close. I had several issues but my main problem was with the 4x4 servo/switch whatever so my 4x4 hardly ever worked which benched it for me because it spent a lot of time in the shop. It also averaged about 10-11 mpg. So in 180k miles, the Toyota had already cost me more than what it usually cost me to drive 300k miles in the F-150 and the Toyota brakes and front end were fixing to need some real money thrown at it so it had to go. The Chevy couldn't handle it either, it had 2 transmissions replaced and the A/C went out 3 times in only 240k miles. I traded BOTH the Toyota and the Chevy off before reaching the 300k target due to time and money loss. They simply cost TOO much to operate. On my F-150's you have to check the front wheel bearings and blow the radiator/intercooler out once a year and you're good, but I also change ALL the fluids, hoses, belt, and trans filter every year which for me is about 75K-80k miles. Like I said, my miles are ROUGH. Ford has just ran completely away with the 1/2 ton truck market especially in technology for the work truck owners. More power with more fuel economy and reliability equals lower cost of ownership i.e. profit$$. When everyone finally goes with the more efficient turbo technology in their 1/2 tons, Ford will be over a full DECADE ahead of them, maybe two, and Ford isn't looking back.

[@ramondavila6561]

Just picked up a CPO 2018 Tundra 4x4, 50k miles and so far I’m happy with it. Yes, it’s basic when compared with its counterparts but so is the maintenance on them. This would be my third 4x4 vehicle and reading the manual, it does say to switch it to 4HI once a month to avoid issues with the transfer case actuator becoming seized or such. As a consumer, I see Ford’s value proposition in terms of bang-for-buck. The 3.5 EcoBoost blows the iForce 5.7 out of the water in performance and economy. As a mechanic, the 5.7 iForce is a durable proposition on Toyota’s part. Yes, it’s MPG isn’t necessarily stellar (I manage 14-15 mpg in city) but not many have come across with engine problems. What I have seen is a solid number of 3.5 EcoBoost engines with a failing water pump. For those folks who do not know, the water pump of the EcoBoost engine is located inside the engine and ran by the timing chain. When the pumps fail, the least of the issues is catching it on time and having to open the engine timing covers, remove timing components to change the water pump out, then reassemble the timing components (lots of labor hours involved = $$$$). The worst I’ve seen is an internal leak of the water pump (nothing out of the weep hole externally) and essentially the coolant and oil mix and the engine ends up in a bad shape requiring replacement or rebuild at best. Yes, the likelihood of a water pump failing on a new truck at or under 100k is low, however, paying $2000+ for a water pump regardless of how old the truck might be is a terrible proposition, especially for those folks who cannot afford a repair bill of that size. All in all, I recognize the Tundra is visibly underpowered but unmatched in reliability. P.S.: A Magnuson supercharged Tundra will give you north of 500HP and TQ (it’ll run you $6k but hey, it’s an option if you can foot the bill).

[@jnewguyin]

The reverse beep reminds me of the countdown to Mario kart races. Gets me oddly hyped up.

[@portabletankmfg1]

I personally hauled over 3000 lbs in the bed of my tundra CM Limited. 1.5 cu yds of river rock. Yes it squatted about all the way down, but it didn’t bother it one bit. Also, the great thing about the tundras are low maintenance cost/ cost of ownership. My first tundra had zero issues, nothing but regular oil change service, tires and brake pads. I towed all over the eastern half of the US for work and used for personal throughout the week and weekends. Hands down best all around half ton. More tech, more chance of issues, but to each their own.

[@Brantoc]

Toyota is generally behind in tech, but what they have is well thought out, and over engineered. That Tundra in 10 years and 300,000 miles is going to be just getting into it's prime.

[@brandonbrandon749]

They are good but I wish they would make the bolts a threads better I still yet haven’t had a bolt on any part come off the way it should also they have a lot of all in one parts I had a line fail on a rack and pinion and had to replace the entire unit 700$ vs Ford just the line about 70$

[@Edgarv68]

I've done that before with rolls of vynil, it squatted bur that's was it

[@tar6805]

I've had 3 Tundras since 2000 , not one mechanical problem not a one ! Find me one Ford , Chevy or FiatCrapco owner that can say that . Not to mention the resale on these is amazing.

[@mikefoehr235]

That good eh. My new Tundra needed a new 🔋battery at 6 months of age.

[@duweydang]

My friend has had his 2016 F150 3.5 since new. Has 150k miles on it. Maintenance only. No mechanical issues. I do get the Toyota reliability but if that's all people cared about, then just get the Toyota.

[@freedomliberty7611]

Why do you have to keep replacing them. Pleeese.

[@oogleboogle123456789]

@@freedomliberty7611 right? its not like the truck changed anything its the same truck it was 20 years ago

[@JakkiPi]

A vehicle, no matter what brand, is only as good as its owner. I'm sure Jay Leno has 50+ year old vehicles that haven't given him a single problem.

[@Captndarty]

The reason Ford went to a digital owners manual was because there wasn’t enough space in the cabin to include the owners manual and repair manual.

[@oldsoldier8139]

Ohhh Brother!

[@TheMrDamp]

😂

[@Troystoy]

🤣

[@simonvance8054]

😂😂😂

[@Johnny-yr4rb]

Tundra 38 gallon tank gives you 650 highway miles on Premium gas and 570 hwy/city below 60 mph driving. With Regular gas it gives you the 450 highway miles you said on the video. I usually get between 17-21 mpg on my 2019 Tundra Limited and I drive 110 miles a day and fill up once a week. I currently have 38,000 miles and just turned 2 yrs old. Hope this helps. Great video! Thanks

[@scottnugent4791]

Premium fuels does not increase the mpg on my 19 Tundra at all.

[@Mcf412]

Premium fuel does not increase mpg

[@DMSparky]

I just want to give a shout-out to the TFL team for donating all proceeds of that auction truck to charity. It’s something you don’t have to do but you’re doing anyways.

[@Nick-zq8br]

you do know charities are tax write-offs right? it's a good cause, but they're not doing it for nothing

[@Ichibuns]

@@Nick-zq8br A tax write-off doesn't mean it's free. It definitely helps but they definitely ate a large cost

[@robertkard3195]

I have owned two Fords and 5 Toyotas over the past 50 years. In my experience, the Fords developed many problems while the Toyotas had zero problems. When I get rid of my current Ford E450 my next truck will be Toyota. No more Fix Or Repair Daily for me.

[@TheGrainSideUp]

Nice comparison. I actually bought that Tundra model. It is interesting, I have all of the things you mentioned that your unit didn't have like bed lights, etc. The one thing that mine did not come with was the sunroof, but I like it that way. This is my third Tundra and probably my last one. I come from a family of Ford truck owners and always thought that I wanted one as well. But when I picked up my first gen Tundra, I was hooked. Every truck model has its pros/cons, but the one that fits your needs is the best one. Oh, and OEM tow mirrors are available with signal/markers lights. About the only thing I wish that Toyota would have kept in my 3rd gen was the tranny cooler. I know what the Toyota engineers say, but I think the $400 in parts would have been nice to have this system in place as a safeguard. I recently viewed your towing video comparisons in the CO hills. Anyways, I appreciate your videos.👍👋

[@lanceripplinger8352]

Wow, that is a cool trick on your F-150 with the shifter. Learned something new there. That was cool how it shifted to Park as soon as you opened the door. Had no idea they did that. Really great comparison between the trucks! 😀

[@jeffwhite3021]

Until the door switch fails and shifts into park before the vehicle is stopped.

[@caskin95]

It’s more shit to break

[@97I30T]

I have a feeling that Anton Yelchin and many others being killed by rolling vehicles had something to do with this sort of feature being implemented.

[@jdmforever5583]

Another stupid feature that will break overtime

[@bobmartens1089]

Ram has done that for at least 6 years

[@MrSweetHart6976]

This whole debate and these comparison videos of which truck is better gets old. Just buy what vehicle that appeals to you, and leave it at that. Everyone is different and will have different tastes and needs, that's never going to change. For me I don't want all the new tech, I just wanted something I can run for the next 20 years with little issues, so I went with a 2014 Tundra. And 7 years later and 120K I haven't had to do a thing with it other then brakes and tires. And as far as mpg, if you bump your tire pressure up 3-5 psi (more in the front then rear) from the factory specs, find roads that you can cruise at 40 to 50 mph (seems to be the sweet spot) I average 17 to 18 mpg and have gotten 20mpg a few times. If you like fords then buy a ford, or if you like Toyota then buy a Toyota, but don't bash others for wanting to be different from what you like.

[@CJ-fh8up]

Well said. To much hate out there, people believe everything they read on the internet and believe everything they hear on opinion entertainment news.

[@cenelson25]

My 2010 tundra gets 18mpg on the highway consistently. I drive just shy of a 100 miles daily for work. Set the cruise at posted speed limit (55-70) and just ride. Running 33 inch cooper discoverers and a k&n, bone stock other than that.

[@gregrowe1168]

If you’re cruising at 40 mph down the highway, you’re a hazard lol.

[@tundragyr]

Driving my TUNDRA 2009 5.7 L Currently has 435,000 miles and going strong still, while in Alaskas Arctic extreme cold conditions.

[@coryernewein]

That power output in the rear is super handy, I can't really figure out why it took so long to have a factory generator as an option. Good work Ford!

[@krasnaludek298]

Ford innovates & Toyota imitates ... lookup Toyota’s history & see how they started building cars. They dissected a Chevy in making their first production model. The Japanese are very good at product evolution, but not the ingenuity. Independent thinking is not part of their culture.

[@cavalierliberty6838]

@@krasnaludek298 you know, as insulting as that statement is, you're not exactly wrong. A lot of their innovations are based off things they just reverse engineered.

[@goreng0033]

@@krasnaludek298 wrong! toyota prius was the first mass-produced hybrid car and toyota is the leader in hybrid technology and reliablity...toyota mirai also among first hydrogen fuel cell car which also might be the future of engine to replace internal combustion engine...toyota strictly conservative in the future of technology...they prioritize durability and reliability over fancy tech

[@coryernewein]

Now if only our auto makers could figure out how Toyota has been able to make reliable cars. My wife's 2011 Jeep was rusting after 4 years and having issues with main power relays(located on the driver's front wheel well, no joke! Not even in a sealed box just in a crappy black container). We just sold our 2003 Sienna with no rust or idiot lights on and grabbed an 08 Tundra. As a guy who grew up First On Race Day😎 I never thought I would buy an import but I just can't get behind the Eco or Boost that Ford is offering. I tried the 10 spd with a 5.0 and it was great on the highway but a little gear hunty in town. I wish Ford would occasionally go back to the old motto...Built Ford Tough! They were great rigs as a kid and even a young man.

[@lawrenceshdow]

@@coryernewein my 98 f150; 2004 f150 and now my 2012. All sold running great or have over 300,000 miles. I have two friends with new tundras. Both less than 5 years old. Both have spent thousands in mechanic fees to keep them running. Anecdotal. Yes. But plenty enough reason for me to stick with ford. 🤷

[@TheRonald6524]

You forgot to mention Toyota’s legendary reliability!!!! Definitely worth mentioning

[@les_invisibles]

Thanks for this! It just got me even more excited for my Tundra Nightshade that is supposed to be delivered in mid-June! In the end, the reliability won me over vs everything else. It may be old, but I wanted to get that reliability before it was potentially gone.

[@paulhunter9613]

@les invincibles Perceived reliability “but wait till those turbos go out” 🤣🤣🤣

[@MY2NDM3]

I'll still take a Toyota Tundra in any trim with a tried and tested platform over a domestic truck. Just wait for the new 2022 Tundra. Toyota is going to address all the issues that buyers complain about (MPG's, Power, Towing capacity etc.,) with the new Tundra. And everyone knows that the new Tundra will be bullet proof reliable and will have great resale value. In the mean time I'll continue to enjoy my 2019 Tundra Crewmax TRD Pro with that thirsty 5.7L V8 and that throaty sound from the TRD exhaust. Life is good!!

[@MarkThaSage]

Exactly. The hybrid technology Toyota will put in the Tundra is already refined and perfected due to them using it for decades in the Prius/other vehicles. Toyota is late to the game for a reason. They’re not going to put some crazy loaded truck out there and sacrifice their reliability status. Toyota keeps things practical and simple. They also don’t depreciate like all hell like American trucks do. I work for Toyota as a car salesman. People come in with their American trucks and SUVs to get trade values and get PISSED at what they’re offered. When I see a customer with a Tundra or Tacoma trade I automatically think “okay, this guy has positive equity!”. It’s just a reality that most American truck/SUV enthusiasts don’t want to face. There is a reason Toyota’s hold their value so well and why banks will give better interest rates on Used Toyota vehicles. It’s not arbitrary.

[@reyrincon2032]

Nothing beats a Toyota truck....nothing.

[@ricks5876]

@@reyrincon2032 you're right, id rather have nothing than a tundra. So nothing is better.

[@paulhunter9613]

Again with the with perceived reliability . Just like in politics the more you say something, sheep will believe it

[@harvbegal6868]

Number one complaint about the 2022 Tundra is no V8. Like, personally I could care less as long as it still delivers the power, but that seems to be the complaint.

[@vernonbennettiii3646]

Excellent video, Andre!

[@browndogstt8546]

So I bought my new limited 4x4 tundra for 12k less than that ford. I can buy 50,000 miles of gas (@ $4 a gallon) for the price difference. That's two years of free gas because my tundra has averaged 16.2mpg over the first 25000 miles.

[@kenhughes9437]

Yes but you have to be seen in a Toyota

[@kross1261]

Plus you have the added benefit of reliability. Especially long term.

[@Pantelifts10]

@@kenhughes9437 way better than to be seen in a Ford

[@JC71444]

@T-boe the first lol so you would rather the less capable truck? Ok have fun with that. 500lbs less payload (1,200vs1700) and 3,000lbs less trailer towing that V6 is a great motor while having more power and fuel economy than your “reliable V8”

[@hurricane8634]

@@kenhughes9437 ya that is way more reliable that any truck and its not even close

[@shanekelsey4201]

My first vehicle is a 2020 Tundra off road, I got my lisence a little later in life lol. But I love my Tundra she's a beast and the more I drive it the more I like it. I am curious about the upcoming Tundra though.

[@shadowmutt]

should be able to get 10 years if not more out of your 2020 tundra .

[@RealLickDoo]

@@shadowmutt 20 years if you dont slam miles on it yearly.

[@Greg-bc5wm]

@@RealLickDoo 21 years if you don't drive it!

[@RealLickDoo]

@@Greg-bc5wm Oi vey

[@joshmoore6165]

50K for an XL. I never thought I’d see the day...

[@jamescalvert240]

right. wheres the crowd that says base work truck models are under 30k at.

[@blackbuster2885]

50k for a piece of junk that is impossible to resell and is full of outrageous recalls.

[@paulhunter9613]

@black buster Yea I agree with you, that Toyota is an overpriced TuRD

[@ryanm1316]

I have the exact same Tundra & I love it. But honestly all I wanted was the 4WD. Lol. I don't care about the bells & whistles, it's nice though.

[@mikefoehr235]

I wish my Tundra had the heated seat switched like this one does. Mine are hard to see and find.

[@ryanm1316]

@@mikefoehr235- oh really? I would think the heated seat switches would be in the same place.

[@mikefoehr235]

@@ryanm1316 Not on mine. The switches are way down under where the AUTO LSD switch is. Very poor location.

[@ryanm1316]

@@mikefoehr235- oh got it, yeah thats strange.

[@freedomliberty7611]

Low expectations

[@Bostonharborwater]

Buy the truck you like better. They’re both great trucks. If you keep them for 3 years. I’d get the Ford. . If you keep your truck 15 years I’d get the tundra. That’s just me. .

[@kross1261]

Best most accurate comment of all I’ve read here.

[@Pantelifts10]

Best comment hands down. If someone's disagree feel free to see the value of those trucks at 5-10 years old and 100K miles..

[@Bostonharborwater]

@@Pantelifts10 Ya. You won’t be seeing people line up to buy 10 year old hybrid f150s with 150k on them.

[@melrose9252]

Well said.

[@ddnmd]

And the proud owners with the 5.7 will see their values go up after the v-6 takes over.

[@miguelpacheco4183]

My dad has a 2007 tundra with the limited trd racing development pack and it has around 230,000 miles and when I drive it it runs perfect, the acceleration on it is instant, despite he crashed it a few years ago due to snow he still hasn’t repaired it because it’s just the front passenger part that got damaged.

[@valuvivao1236]

Nice, they both are great and I also love both of them. Thanks you for your video.

[@LuiJoTD]

@22:10 I love how he comforts himself with having a defroster 😂

[@shadowmutt]

not every one needs every option avalable to be happy with their truck . some of my best trucks have been basic trucks .

[@LuiJoTD]

@@shadowmutt Good 👌🏻

[@T9HIndustry]

I always felt like the tundra limited was never necessarily meant to be the best performing or most expensive or offroad worthy in the lineup, but more of an experience to drive, good on the road for daily driving but also capable of doing some offroading while being wellbehaved.

[@glenatgoogle4393]

I'd think if that were the case, they'd improve the fuel economy. In the example in the video 14 vs 24? Toyota has the worst fuel economy of ALL full sized trucks. Most full sized trucks get better fuel economy than even some Tacoma's do.

[@paulhunter9613]

@t9 industry Yea it’s tough getting to some of those Walmart’s

[@paulhunter9613]

@glen at google They have to use a 4:30 gear in them so people can at least tow something, that kills mpg

[@atomicorang]

You sir are an official ambassador for truck evaluations and opinion. The only one.

[@MrJuly151995]

On my 2015 F150, added a length of chain to each loop for chains on hitch. Hoping ford will change the design some day.

[@paulhunter9613]

@steven d Davis Landscaping trailer are all different, that’s why they still sell chain

[@kingdaniel3519]

As Jeremy Clarkson likes to say, "Speed and power!"

[@Troystoy]

I choose the Tundra for me.....,choose whatever for you , it’s your money and choice end of debate imo !!

[@TheDeanGullberry]

Got me a new tundra in May. It bluebooks at 5 grand more than I paid.

[@paulhunter9613]

All trucks are 5 grand higher now because of the shortage of trucks right now. The dealer I bought mine from called me 3 wks ago offering me that that same amount if I would sell it back to them. Used trucks have gone up 40% in the last 6 months. And it’s going to stay that way for some time unfortunately

[@spinfish1434]

Many Ford owners switching to Tundra (myself included) due to Reliability, Customer Service and Resale value.. Ford let me down big time years ago, got my trouble free Tundra and never looked or considered a Ford again...

[@MrLuisinho90]

Baby Yota reminds me to the late 80s/early 90s Toyota trucks driven by Ivan Stewart on Baja 500/1000. Good ol times...

[@leeroyjenkins5193]

Put the Tundra in “Tow Haul” mode and you can win some “traffic Light acceleration tests”

[@SomeonewithaCar]

That is true lol my dad has a 2021 tundra trd sport and it’s faster in tow haul

[@paulhunter9613]

@leroy Jenkins What you will see is the taillights of a 2.7 eco, I can guarantee it. The Toy 5.7 is a slug

[@leeroyjenkins5193]

@@paulhunter9613 0-60 times Ford eco 6.1, Toyota 6.3. Are those numbers including using tow/haul mode only on Tundras equipped with tow packages, I don’t know? Either way I’m not so sure it’s guaranteed seeing Ford taillights. Depends on who gets the best start off the line. Maybe TFL Truck could do a 1/4 mile comparison. Only stipulation I would want is a Tundra with the tow package with tow/haul mode on. I’m pretty sure it’ll be a lot closer than you think. Possibly even the Ford seeing the Tundra stamped on the tailgate as it crosses the line. I wouldn’t get to confident with only a 2/10 difference in 0-60 times. Hope TFL Truck can do some shootouts for us. Thanks for the reply, have a good one!

[@mariodesmo]

Wow, nice to see that 240Vac, 30A outlet on the Ford. That is a huge amount of power in the bed. With the hybrid system it makes sense to put it to use, when not powering the truck!

[@laughingram7287]

While recently on vacation my 2012 F150 EcoBoost with 143,000 miles lost a turbo. The nearby Ford dealer did not have any in stock and yet had replaced several since January. I walked next door to a Toyota dealer and purchased a 2018 Toyota Tundra with 34,000 miles. The rest of the vacation carried on with no problem. Ram

[@terrynewell4749]

Big Toyota fan, I own a 2020 Tacoma. Have had many F150's in the past for towing horse trailers. I've always wanted a Tundra, but just can't due to poor MPG's. I probably would go with the F150 again if I needed a half ton. I am very interested in the next Tundra, hopefully they can move it forward in technology and maintain some of its reliability. I would note that even the third gen Tacoma took a couple years to work out all the bugs after its initial release and it really isn't all that sophisticated. So I think Ford has a fairly long term advantage in technology which Toyota will need to work hard to catch up with.

[@rider14mcd63]

I have a Tundra and a 4runner. Tundra comb gas mileage 15.8 mpg. 4runner 17 mpg and they run on 87 octane.

[@terrynewell4749]

@@rider14mcd63 very solid vehicles will last forever

[@rider14mcd63]

@@ThatsPABLO checked by milage and gallons burned. Mine is still breaking in too, it was 14.8 first tank, 15.8 second tank. TRD Pro, stock tires. What size tires do you have, that seems to be the factor that effects mileage the most. My 4 Runner was 19 till I put all terrains on, same size, but 10 ply.

[@ronaldramsey6006]

@@ThatsPABLO 18.1mpg CrewMax pro. Turtle starts and keep close to the speed limit

[@uriahg193]

Which will last longer? Toyota by far! That's where i put my money

[@conrad8483]

Great video!!!

[@JoseAlvarez-zi8qg]

The power difference is the only advantage the Ford seems to have. if you trust your eyes, It's clear that for the money, the tundra is a way better option. Not to mention that the power the tundra produces is more than you'll ever need. Also, try putting 1900lbs in the bed of each truck and see which one actually handles it better. I've seen pallets of shingles loaded into the beds of these trucks and I'm not sure the Ford lives up to its claims.

[@louie4316]

It's bizarre what Ford claims. I've seen a F150 on the highway with it's hazard lights on driving well below the speed limit (very dangerous considering how everyone was flying around him) with the front end pointing up and the rear completely bottomed out. This guy must of gone to Costco and purchased a pallet of bottled water. I could just imagine the look on the forklift drivers face when he opened the receiving door. Forklift driver: "Are you sure?" F150 owner: "Yeah, it can take it" The rear brakes, Diff and tires must of been screaming in agony.

[@mikefoehr235]

@@louie4316 crazy

[@843OutdoorsSC]

I own an F150. It can handle it. I’m not a Ford guy I’m a truck guy. I like all the trucks for different reasons. What I’m trying to say is I’m not being a fanboy I’m just putting out there it can haul very well.

[@Pantelifts10]

That's cause Tundra is real world and honest payload numbers.. I've used them all for work and hauling materials

[@gregrowe1168]

Neither truck can safely tow 10 k lbs either. It’s not that they don’t have the power, 1/2 ton trucks are too light and get pushed around towing that much.

[@9663mu]

Would be interesting to see this new power boost versus the prior model limited with the raptor engine that has less weight

[@jessealvarez4742]

I had a 2000 f150 brand new the oil pressure gage was at zero I took it to the dealer and got every answer as to why this was happening, later I bought a 2005,but the fuel economy sucked for a 4.6 then got a 2008 150 brand new the transmission kept giving me a rumbling noise, the dealer never could figure out the problem, I told them, I'll never buy a Ford truck again, in 2018 I bought a 2010 tundra with 78000 miles, dam it's the greatest truck I've ever had, no issues with it,rides great, I'm 64 year's old, definitely the last truck I'll ever buy,I'll pass on and this baby will still be rolling, LET'S GO TUNDRA, LETS SEE SOME PLACES

[@raymondlent3517]

I’m looking forward to getting a Ford F-150 one day with the powerboost. I can’t get over how much more efficient it is being a hybrid but I’m gonna wait a few years to get a gently used one with low miles so I don’t have to pay full sticker for it.

[@slscamg]

Look at real world mpg. Most people aren’t getting anywhere near 24mpg unless their drive cycle is rural country driving where the hybrid shines.

[@romeo1550]

@@slscamg that's also because most people accelerate from stop to speed way to fast. With them being turbo engines, it is also way more enjoyable doing it. A reasonable foot will manage the 24 mpg rating. However, the vast majority do not have that ability. I know I wouldn't.

[@enigma9789]

@@slscamg On rural country back roads, I get 23mpg with my 2019 3.5 ecoboost super crew 4x4 with the 6.5 bed. (dash says 25)

[@sheepdog819]

Used truck market os up 43%. Most used trucks are selling for what you'd buy them new for 2 years ago.

[@steve2866]

@@slscamg Where it will really help is pulling. With a load, the Ecco Boost turbo's really sucks fuel. Even worse than my Tundra under comparable loads. The Batteries should really help and I would think where put in the trucks primarily for this purpose from my real life experiences pulling with these trucks.

[@daves1646]

Andre, Thank you very much for the REAL world comparison. I didn’t know about the rear window of the Tundra. Fun! I’ve heard now 3 times about unexpected corrosion on the rear diff/solid axle of the F150 (2 of 3 were hybrids). Any feedback from Ford? Again thank you - the F150’s capability is pretty surprising! For me with a travel trailer, the 7.2kW output is a BIG PLUS for boondocking recharge.

[@jtuckwel]

I'm stoked for the official release of the 2022 Tundra for specs, and engine choices. With a solid hybrid option, the fuel economy disadvantage the Tundra's have been know for (albeit most don't care) wouldn't be a disadvantage anymore. That, paired with the upgrade of the archaic tech and interior and such will hopefully be a home-run for Toyota. Here's to hoping.

[@1997LT1Camaro]

I had a 2015 SR5 which I got in a major wreck in. Me and my son were T boned at a intersection. It did well on a safety level. My 2nd tundra was the same SR5 but 2016 and 4x4. I eventually sold it for financial reasons. I’m on my Third Tundra. (2015 1794) I came back to it again and got a good deal on mint condition with 80k. It was the GM of the dealerships truck, and he even upgraded the gas tank to the larger one. I missed the beast like feeling of driving this hoss. 💪

[@maxandmoose]

I bought the Tundra Crewmax limited about a month ago. I wouldn’t have even considered an XL. XLT...maybe. Interested to see it’s reliability. It doesn’t matter if it has eight years on the hybrid part if it’s constantly in the shop. If they prove to be reliable I would definitely consider buying one in the future.

[@steve2866]

I've had both. Tundra all the way. Enough said.

[@friday1941]

I love both trucks! I personally have had 3 F150's with no Major issues.

[@ernestjohnson1807]

What's your definition of major? To toyota people it's any thing other the wear items. Tires, break pads,oil changes, ect. For 500,000 miles. Most your ford's don't last past 200,000. Witch is fine I guess if you want a throw away truck, but not at $100,000. For the price of truck today. They better last a1/2 million without question, 1,000,000 really.

[@III1IlIIlIllIl]

@@ernestjohnson1807 Toyota is a great girl truck lol. They are weak af lol

[@ernestjohnson1807]

@@III1IlIIlIllIl a girl truck😂. You mean the fact the tundra has the same size ring and pinion as an f250 and a stronger housing. Tundra also has larger wheel bearings then a f250. You f150 / silverado has the same size as the Tacoma. So I guess if your girl likes them bigger then you.

[@jackz4149]

@@ernestjohnson1807 I guess to him, girls build differently

[@paulhunter9613]

@ernest Johnson No he means that tundra owners appreciate the factory in dash tampon dispenser. I have no need for that standard feature, so I buy fords

[@johnirwin9334]

One thing for me to ask is.The question of overall reliability between the two.That remains to be seen.Still the video was very informative.Thanks Andre

[@pem3480]

The Tundra has had a few truncks reach 1m miles and the ford is a newer system, so I think the Tundra won on reliability,

[@ronniegillaspy]

Both are tremendously overpriced, $50K for a half ton 🤦‍♂️ . But I had a Tundra company truck for a few years and was sold on how good of a truck they make. Would be my choice hands down!

[@HotshotJimmy]

Good comparison but missed a few things. The Tundra does have factory tow mirrors. You have to buy them separately if not getting a work truck The backup camera is amazing... not sure what you were talking about. You can purchase an aftermarket storage bin for under the seats like you did for the Ford. It goes both ways, new tech is cool. But will it be junk after 100k? How expensive is that electric motor? Tundra sure drinks fuel, but reliable as they get.

[@kenphilpot1903]

I think compared to the Ford the res on the Toyota camera is low end compared to f150 The rear floor on the tundra is double humped compared to the Fords completely flat floor . Ford has a battery warranty till 100k so I wouldn’t be to worried . Plus all the money you save on fuel can replace the electronics when you make it to 100k

[@toyotajimjam1492]

@@kenphilpot1903 People won’t be in line to buy a 10 year old F150 hybrid. People are happily buying 10 year old Tundra’s every day. Do you have any idea how much the hybrid system & batteries cost? It outweighs the cost of fuel.

[@bobby3944]

@@toyotajimjam1492 You are exactly right. Sold a 2010 Tundra in a heart beat for half of what I paid for it. Really held its value.

[@kenphilpot1903]

@@toyotajimjam1492 retail I’m sure the batteries cost a lot . In 3 plus years I bet they will be under 5k to replace and even cheaper in 10 years . Most things going electric in the future will only make it cheaper . I plan on buying a full electric truck because it will probably last longer then any other truck currently ... if I kept vehicles that long anyway .

[@toyotajimjam1492]

@@bobby3944 It’s what they do

[@wompa70]

I really like that F-150. I wonder how they'll hold up over time. Like when I'm ready to trade my 2018 Frontier in.

[@1_Papa]

Awesome, awesome video! And Andre, thank you so much for showing your viewers that even a base F-150 can be equipped with some great features and still be a very desirable vehicle. I'm not actually an Ecoboost fan, but the Powerboost hybrid has me curious. FX4 trim and the 3.7 litre naturally aspirated V6 was something I was looking at once, for a tasty under $50,000 truck treat, but I love how you equipped yours. I prefer Toyota for cars, midsize trucks and some SUV/CUVs, and this Tundra (and especially for it's age of design) is still a great truck, but there's a reason the F-150 has been the best selling vehicle in North America the last forty-one (41!) years. And Andre, yours is the best example yet of why it has been so! 🏆! (Insert rabbit here)

[@joseorozco7069]

I checked the Ecoboost and I ended up with a 2016 Trd Off Road Tundra. It is a big full v8 simple engine. After 5 years, zero issues. With a prooven record of being more reliable truck than the other 1/2 ton trucks. Just pay afew more cents on a gallon of gas.

[@deuce669]

New f150 is nice, but I still like the Tundra, 320K on our 2009 and she still runs like new, she's just hungry all the time haha

[@partner348]

'09 was reportedly the least problematic for Tundra, but beware the '07, and the 2012 per my next truck purchase research. And it appears to be showing up in the market. '07's & 2012's are the most common for sale Tundras. Owners appear to be tryin to get rid of 'em? '06 is also highly available; don't know what that issue may be. Haven't seen neg reports on them.

[@reyrincon2032]

No way the Ford will make 300k lucky to 125k

[@robsteingruber9488]

I have a 36 gallon on my 17 F-150, with the Ecoboost. I get 600 miles on the highway.

[@namtrinh4695]

I have a 36 gallon tank on my 2015 platinum f150 with a 3.5 ecoboost 6speed tyranny, with slow acceleration and driving the speed limit i can get 700 mile on highway driving 🤣

[@tylerfineman8967]

We have a 2019 f150 XL with the 3.5 ecoboost, 10 speed, 4x4. If you stay out of the turbos and keep the speed around 60 we can get over 780 miles out the 36 gallon tank. Never fails to impress me!

[@robsteingruber9488]

@@tylerfineman8967 I am ok a bit of the time. Running up and down Ute Pass from Colorado Springs to the house will eat into it a bit though.

[@Limited-uq2yk]

How much miles til empty does the expo in your profile picture get?

[@robsteingruber9488]

@@Limited-uq2yk The old Expedition would get around 450 a tank if I minded my manners.

[@DOWNTOWN_AUDIO]

My dad bought an 07 tundra brand new off the lot. It was the best one on the lot too! 35 inch mud tires, a 3 inch lift, custom rims, a little bash bar with a skid plate, a tonneau cover and the box was rock guarded. All factory upgrades! My dad works in the oil patch in Central and northern Alberta, that means just getting to the rig site involves going through deep mud and water, sometimes a downed tree, that tundra was abused its entire life!! All it needed was oil changes, brakes, tires, fluid flushes, it did need a new wiring harness because rodents love the soy based plastic coating on the wires! It never got stuck, in mud or snow, it never broke down, at one point we had a big 24.5 foot yamaha twin engine jet boat, the tundra pulled it like it wasn't even there!! After Xmas 2011 we were stuck in kelowna cause the Roger's pass was shut down due to bad weather. After a week they opened up the pass again. So we left!! Sure enough the pass had about a foot of snow accumulated on the road, while everybody else was going slow we were going the speed limit! After a while we saw howitzer's on the road side, and avalanche control vehicles hauling ass down the pass. They were doing like 40 over the speedlimit and my dad was like, they know something I don't, I'm gonna follow them! So we did 140km/hr til we hit golden, sure enough we were the last vehicle let through that night. By the time we hit Calgary the sun was coming up, and 1.5 hours later we were back home. We never lost traction, we didn't have a single close call. I blame the luggage in the bed lol, it had to have weighed 500lbs or more! My dad had that truck until 2021, it was driven hard, never babied, it had 450,000km on the odometer, and still, it never left him stranded, stuck in the mud and snow, never! The back bumper was a bit rusty, it had been since 2012! The body and paint were still good, and Aside from that it was ready to take another 450k km of abuse lol! It had the 5.7L I-FORCE v8, it was horrible!! Absolutely terrible on gas!! It had a digital fuel Guage which told you the fuel level in how many kilometers til empty. With a full tank it had at most 497km til empty, and in winter time it was in the 480's. However if you bought a tundra, it wasn't for its fuel consumption. It was for reliability, longevity, and that the truck was simple. The engine design too, it may be simple, sure, but it made 381hp and 401ft/lbs of torque and still lasted forever!! Toyota, even today still uses the exact same 5.7 v8 that was in my dad's 2007 tundra! The engine has been in production for 15 years now, and Toyota hasn't changed or redesigned a single part on it. Also, the 5.7 i-force is made in the USA at the Toyota factory in Huntsville, Alabama!!

[@jonw4595]

great work putting this together. as a tundra owner i couldn't be happier.

[@davidz1681]

I have a 2007 tundra. One of the first to roll off the assembly line in San Antonio Texas. It runs like a champ. The best truck I've ever owned.

[@victorsau1145]

Tundra all the way mine still rocking

[@tockingwatches2377]

Great video. The only question now is how reliable will the Ford be long term. As many mechanics point out, when you start squeezing maximum power out of smaller complexed engines, things tend to go wrong.

[@ThomasCWiley]

Bingo, that 5.7 is so under stressed and over built for a reason.

[@delacruzjeff]

could you provide link on where to get those under seat organizer at the rear seat of F150? looks cool. Thanks.

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

I would like to see what the ownership costs will be for both after 200k miles.. All that fancy stuff on the Ford will eventually break.

[@ridetn7695]

Thats why I don't want a truck newer than 2003 for Ford or 2006 for Chevy, those trucks are reliable and the new ones are too fancy.

[@nickoaks5143]

@@ridetn7695 I can’t agree more with your statement. When Ford introduced the 3V in 04, those engines were garbage. When Chevy introduced the AFM engines, those were garbage too. Prior to that, those two trucks were solid.

[@gregrowe1168]

It’s sad Chevy ruined the 5.3 with afm. It was a great engine before that. At least they never did that with the 6.0 v8.

[@mikeatv]

great video.... id go with the tundra just for the dependability the ford is very nice....if those batteries and the hybrid system and electronics last ...it would be the better truck

[@dmandman9]

If their other hybrids are any indication, the hybrid components should be very reliable. We see very few problems. Also, the hybrid components have a 8 year 100,000 mile warranty

[@allanhallett]

Forward all the way! Great choice Andre!

[@msnpassjan2004]

$53,000 and it is a basic truck ? This is getting insane.

[@simonvance8054]

You think that’s bad here in australia it costs around 150K for most new half ton pickups... I wish I was joking.. conversion to right hand drive alone is around 50K..

[@sergefort2200]

Since the new Tundra will obviously cost more than the current model, I hope that you guys do the same thing by matching the trucks according to their out the door price. The F150 Platinum has so many more tricks that would be interesting to see stacked against the reborn Tundra. As always, you produced a well written content, THANKS

[@shadowmutt]

a good truck will last if they are maintained .

[@christopher3725]

Tricks fail at 80,000 miles. Ford is junk

[@alexbrideau6870]

I would like for you to do this video again when the new tundra comes out. That way it will be more apples to apples.

[@Chuckles527]

The tundra will cost way more!

[@ElGancho08]

They don’t wanna update anything they old school

[@solrac7782]

@@ElGancho08 why fix what isn't broken?

[@ElGancho08]

@@solrac7782 Bro admit it they need to upgrade the interiors. They stuck in the 90s

[@talisikid1618]

@@ElGancho08 and that’s a good thing.

[@ewins292]

Andre. Can you do a video of the upgrades you plan on doing to the F150

[@UggliestDudeAlive]

Still waiting for TFL to hit the tow/haul mode in a Tundra. That’s all the sport mode you need.

[@rx8dude907]

I'd take the tieota all day!

[@richardwillis8083]

I currently own a 2005 Tundra bought in 2009, which I currently own.Truly it has been reliable vehicle. Although I like all the tech on the new trucks from the big three, I would sacrifice alot of there tech for the reliability and low costs and maintenance of the Tundra, as long as Toyota enhance its safety equipment.

[@glenatgoogle4393]

Low costs?? Did you see the fuel economy he spoke of? Fed's say their model shows Tundra costs about $1000 more per year to operate than a 3.5L EB Ford. (Not the hybrid, the regular 3.5L model.) Their model uses a fuel cost of $2.85/gal. AAA says average cost today, nationally, is $2.886/gallon. The extra fuel costs alone, could equate to $2000 in repairs every couple of years, and most trucks don't need that level of repairs.

[@switchbackfable]

@@glenatgoogle4393 couldn’t agree more as that’s something that always baffles me about tundra owners is how the reliability justifies fuel cost given the price of fuel and not everyone lives where fuel is super cheap. As much as I appreciate and value reliability you still gotta be able to afford the fuel cost. Given that Toyota dropped the engine entirely too for the redesign and went to a twin turbo engine that does prove a point about fuel economy too to v8 die hards

[@C-M-E]

Not a universal design signature, but a lot of trucks with 2WD of a certain weight class will have 5 bolt hubs vs 4wd versions of the same truck will come with 6 bolt hubs. On the 'Yota, I sure wish they'd keep the V8 option and electrify the front end for hybrid power; I've thought about doing my '07 like this as a 4WD conversion, and to see if adding electric power would lighten the load on the V8 for some extra mileage.

[@joeguillory8050]

Toyota tried and true reliability any day. I’ve had 2 Tundras and 3 F150s and I can definitely do without the extra gadgets for the more comfortable and powerful feeling of the Tundra. My last 2019 F150 felt dinky and the info-tainment center had to be replaced 3 times within the 1 year I owned it.

[@charlespratt8663]

It would be awesome to get an update 10 years from now and see how they both are hanging together. I know how I'm betting.

[@seanjones2456]

Well if you are opening a beer can 10 years from now, you will be very close to where the f150 went.

[@ds6872]

Fanboy alert 😆

[@MrLuisinho90]

@@ds6872 it's all they got since they would loose any other argument by a landslide. The rebates on the Ford and savings at the gas pump would easily pay for any "reliability issues" down the road. And if you really need the truck for tow/haul, no matter how reliable the Tundra is, it won't be up to the task with its lower ratings, not to mention the lack of a fully boxed frame. There are lots of F150s with 200K or more on their Ecoboost engines. They're actually pretty good. No one questions the Tundra's durability but for real, the people who keeps their trucks for +10 years are a minority and for the ones buying used, well they are pretty much priced about the same. I really can't comprehend how the fanboys defend a brand that has neglected the segment for so many years. That's pure blindness, lol

[@ds6872]

@@MrLuisinho90 well said sir. Fanboys will be fanboys no matter how far behind toyota gets 😆

[@markusantonio4866]

@@seanjones2456 haha

[@daveroe8612]

F150 Hybrid for sure! Thanks for another great review.

[@willjackson5941]

How did you get an XL with Dual Zone A/C? I’ve been looking at XL’s with the STX package and it seems like not even the 101A High Package includes the Dual Zone A/C.

[@estebanamador7601]

I love your XL PowerBoost. Do you know your real life mpg?

[@anthem4333]

I’d always go with a Tundra. I mean, they traded a brand new Tundra in exchange for a customers 08 Tundra, which had over a million miles with the original tyranny and engine, so that they could study it and reproduce its reliability. Screw the creature comforts, if you can get hundreds of thousands of miles out of a truck without serious repairs then it doesn’t matter how comfy the seats are

[@rdsii64]

At 14 combined mpg you need that 38 gallon tank.

[@davegibbs6592]

Can't wait to get a new truck but I can't kill my 2014 Tundra. Hate the bench seat, mpg and size of gas tank but man this truck is tough and the 5.7 hauls!

[@puffpuff568]

That bottle opener had me sold

[@princesukhram180]

I just can't wait to do a fbo custom tune with the next gen tundra that joint is gunna dip

[@orrinbelcher6593]

Love the Tundra for reliability, but I’m with you, I would get the Ford XL just like you, great features, performance and fuel economy for the money. Very wise choice, you did great

[@mysterysolver514]

10 speed is absolute shit

[@paulhunter9613]

@mystery solver So is your opinion

[@mysterysolver514]

@@paulhunter9613 tell me more about how your 10 speed works perfectly

[@canconservative8976]

I still can’t find a truck that looks as big as the Tundra Crew cab from the side.... massive... it must be that rear long door and gigantic back seats... unbelievable

[@switchbackfable]

I just bought recently a 2021 F-150 with the 3.5 eco boots engine (avoided the power boost option due to high price tag in Canada) and couldn't be happier. I can however understand the folks who comment about reliability and how loyal they are to the tundra for that reason as I've owned it's smaller brother the Tacoma at one point myself but when the family came around I went to a larger truck. What I found is bang for buck the F-150 is the better deal and while reliability isn't Ford's strong suit and any automotive manufacture can have bad batches ford is always innovating while Toyota is seriously falling behind in both tech and saftey. The biggest reason for me to avoid a tundra is the fuel economy, I'm sorry but no reliability rating long term is worth the amount of money you'll spend on fuel over the lifetime of the truck at 18L per 100 kms (Canadian spec for any American reading this) absolute pig on fuel especially since I live in British Columbia and we some of the highest prices in Canada for gas. Just remember as long as you maintain the truck and not abuse it thinking your invincible (get a beater if you drive like that) you'll get many years out of a truck