TW200 | Can't Find Neutral | Clutch Lever Free Play Adjustment

TW200 Can't Find Neutral? New TW200 clutch free play adjustment will help solve the "Can't Find Neutral" issue with your TW200.
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00:00 Start of Video
00:15 Why it's hard to Shift
00:50 What is Clutch Lever free play?
01:08 free play spec
01:38 Where to check free play
02:17 How to adjust free play
04:40 Secondary adjustment
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[@MOBStreet83]

Some folks with the 2021 TW200 have said they are having a hard time finding or getting the bike to shift into Neutral. I had the problem as well and this is how I fixed mine. Make sure the bike is COLD when making the adjustment! Good Luck and Thanks for watching!

[@freedom2ignite]

Thank you! Worked awesome with my new to me 01. I thought I just didn’t know what I was doing trying to get it into neutral. One time I can blame the equipment and not my skill

[@DARIVSARCHITECTVS]

This was HUGELY helpful! Thanks.

[@MOBStreet83]

You Bet! I am glad it helped.

[@derrellfreeman1937]

Thanks Matt... bro you dont even know for about a week now I couldn't find neutral on my new xpro 150cc and man I made the adjustment that you talked about in this video and now neutral with every try... GOD BLESS YOU BROTHER... THANK YOU!

[@MOBStreet83]

Hey Derrell!! That's awesome! I am stoked this helped you out! Thanks for letting me know, I love it when someone finds these useful. Ride safe and all the best!

[@ronny-drz]

Great video Matt, thank you - something we often don't think to look at, thanks for the reminder & tech talk. Cheers! Ronny

[@MOBStreet83]

Hey Ronny, thanks for taking the time to watch it, I appreciate. I'm trying to help make the maintenance on the bike easier for all. Thanks again and all the best!

[@rogerhodge2607]

Matt, I sure enjoy watching your "How to" videos. Thank you for taking the time to produce them......Actually, I enjoy them all. :)

[@MOBStreet83]

Hey Roger! Thanks for taking the time to watch them and leaving the comment, I appreciate it! We've got more coming!

[@tyreewhite6653]

Thank You, very helpful !

[@MOBStreet83]

You bet! Thanks for watching and I am glad it helped!

[@iridemotorbikes]

Good stuff Matt! 😎👍🏼👍🏼

[@MOBStreet83]

Thank You!! 🙏

[@clarkpitts5393]

Yep, great video.. A++

[@MOBStreet83]

Thanks Clark! I appreciate it!

[@collinmc90]

The video I didn't even know I needed! I noticed my TW on cold start would lurch forward in 1st gear even with the clutch pulled in. When the clutch warmed up it worked perfect. This makes sense now seeing this, I also noticed neutral was kinda finnicky to find. I'll adjust this tomorrow and see how it works. Thanks Matt!

[@MOBStreet83]

Mine was kinda driving me nuts so this is what fixed it. I hope it helps but make sure to adjust it when the bike is cold. Hotter clutch plates expand and will give you a false adjustment when they are adjusted hot. Hopefully this helps!

[@lnc23]

Thank you for this comment I’m also in the same boat. Just bought my TDub new and felt something way off. How did it go?

[@frankiejamesrail1579]

I just bought a barely used 2022 with 60miles. The lever was extremely loose so I adjusted it to get rid of the slack. I noticed when I shifted into first it wanted to jump forward. I’ll also try to get a proper adjustment. Did the adjustment help you?

[@jameswolfe9451]

nice little tech video

[@MOBStreet83]

Thanks, I am glad you like it!

[@PaulsMotoZen]

I used to adjust my clutch to one or two nickles in thickness. Never used a mm ruler before. ;)

[@MOBStreet83]

That's a quick and easy way to check clearance on the clutch......I didn't have any coins. The nickel is 2mm thick so two of them together would be awesome. Gonna go put some out in my toolbox now just so I can have them. I'd prefer that over the ruler, much quicker and easier.

[@idiot-983]

Hey Matt Here, I suggest checking with handlebars at full lock both ways. Especially after adding the Bar risers. Thanks for the great video, please excuse the file photo and nick name.

[@MOBStreet83]

Good Call! That is an excellent point. Thanks for bringing that up. I'm glad you liked it, thanks for watching!

[@long_wang]

Thanks for the video Matt! I just picked up my tw200 2007 that has 2500 miles and I have been having an issue with it going into neutral. I will test this out. Great video!

[@MOBStreet83]

Hey Phil!! Thanks for taking the time to watch and I hope it helps. If it doesn't let us know and we'll see if we can't help get it sorted it out for you.

[@timwright297]

As more miles are put on the bike neutral will become easier to find. The lurching when going into first gear will also go away. That's just the new plates sticking together. All TWs have weak clutch springs as well. Shiming the stock springs or replacing with Barnett aftermarket makes a big difference. Fiddling with the clutch lever play won't help.

[@MOBStreet83]

Hey Tim! That is a good point as well. I had over 1,000 miles on the bike and this still helped. However, my 2019 was a little like that and after putting miles on it, it did help and the adjustment didn't make really any difference. I am thinking of adding a new clutch to both of them though just so I can get the clutch feeling the way I really want them to. I will have to check out the Barnett Clutch. Thanks for the insight!

[@olddirtbiker5088]

Some have described the TW clutch as more like an on/off switch than a clutch as it engages far out from the grip and has a narrow friction zone compared to other dirt bikes. I installed an adjustable lever to bring the lever closer to the grip when the clutch is all the way out. It feels much better.

[@MOBStreet83]

Sounds like a pretty good idea to me. Ever since I connected the clutch spring and made the cable adjustment the bike has felt a lot better.

[@AAHKLEE]

Hi Matt, So is the clutch release bearing in constant contact with the clutch? Based on 45 years of automotive clutch adjusting, I aimed for minimal clearance based on cable disconnected and "Feel" of the release arm. Didn't work. Your method most certainly does work but I would greatly appreciate your comments re the release bearing/plate clearance.

[@atokarchik]

What are the lever protectors you are using? I want to get some for my TW, but I want a set that I know will work. Thanks!

[@MOBStreet83]

These are the ones that I use and I have put them through quite a bit! They are worth the money! www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/tusk-d-flex-handguards-with-mx-shields-p?ref=1033&

[@PsychoSainten]

So i finally found a tdub and the clutch doesnt engage until its almost into home position but my issue is shifting from first to second theres been a time or two where instead of second it will go to neutral. It could be my inexperience in riding since its been 15 years but something to mention if theres maybe a way to adjust shift lever free play?

[@MOBStreet83]

How old is your bike? Mine did that a bit at first when I bought it, now it works pretty decent but both of my clutches are almost fully extended before it engages. Here is the video I have on the clutch adjustment. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaLRpaqkgamLqNE

[@PsychoSainten]

@@MOBStreet83 2002 i adjusted the shift cable it shifts better now i also adjusted the shift lever now i can slide my foot under easier and those things made a world of difference!

[@Mascotal]

When I brought home my new TW the actuator arm spring was not properly fitted on the tranny. There was no return tension in the spring. It made a huge difference Matt. Not too sure but looks like you should have a closer look at yours.

[@MOBStreet83]

Great catch!! That is actually one of the very first checks I made when I noticed it was acting up. I even just went out again to make sure I didn't miss it. Both my 2019 and 2021 have return tension and the spring is sitting in the correct cutout on the case by the actuator arm. Still, I should have mentioned that in the video so thank you for bringing it up!

[@Mascotal]

@@MOBStreet83 Actually Matt, I think you may have overlooked a issue. The actuator spring sits in the notch at one end, BUT the other end of the spring should be hooked onto the actuator arm itself. In your video at 0:36 I can see the spring is not attached. Look under the actuator arm and you will see the other end of the spring. Use a screw driver to pull it out and hook it onto the actuator arm. This will increase the tension on the spring and your clutch will work much better.

[@MOBStreet83]

@@Mascotal Holy Crap, I'm an idiot! Thank you for pointing that out and letting me know. I can't believe I missed that. It's fixed now! I really appreciate it.

[@collinmc90]

Same on my 2021, I've been hearing this is a super common problem on them. I wonder if the dealers are messing this up or if its from the factory?

[@Mascotal]

@Brad Tilley Hi Brad, congrats on your new bike. I think the clutch spring issue is coming from the factory, and then overlooked by the dealers when they unload it from the crate. Let your local shop know about it and maybe tell them to issue a service bulletin.

[@usernamemykel]

Matt, thanks for the tutorial. It appears it may answer my problem - I adjusted the freeplay on my bike awhile ago, and I've been noticing that when I want to switch to N from 1st gear, it goes into 2nd gear insead, IOW, it bypasses N. So, am I understanding you correctly that I need to DECREASE the freeplay???????? Many thanks!

[@MOBStreet83]

You bet, I hope this helps. It depends really......if it is too tight, then you clutch isn't fully engaging and the plates are slipping, if it is too loose then your clutch pack isn't fully expanding allowing the easier shift.

[@usernamemykel]

@@MOBStreet83 I decreased the freeplay and Neutral is once again part of the family. Thank you!

[@usernamemykel]

@@MOBStreet83 Now I’m going to try having a reunion with Neutral on my Honda Grom, which are notorious for missing Neutral 😊

[@jamescorth9930]

Hello Matt, which is the best Clutch replacement Company for replacing the Clutch in my TW200? I want to put in a heavier duty Clutch system. Thanks Matt. James.

[@MOBStreet83]

I've always been a fan of EBC. But, I don't know if these plates are better than stock or not? My buddy installed them on his 2017 and was happy with them. www.rockymountainatvmc.com/parts/ebc-standard-clutch-kit-p?v=16340#ReviewsPanel?ref=1033&

[@vinniec5286]

Matt, i don't want to sound stupid (but I can't help it haha), but for the bottom adjustment near the transmission, which way is clockwise? The video shows the adjustment from the lateral edge. Is it clock wise if you were at the end of the cable staring back at it or if you are on the the cable staring at the transmission?

[@MOBStreet83]

No worries!! From the angle of the camera, is you roll the adjustment nut up or rotate it towards the engine that is clockwise. If you roll is towards yourself or down that is counterclockwise........as I sit here making air adjustments just to make sure I am telling you correctly.

[@vinniec5286]

@@MOBStreet83 Thanks, Matt! I appreciate it.

[@MOBStreet83]

You bet!!

[@jamescorth9930]

Hello again Matt. I have a question. These TW’s are really low geared especially in 1st gear. Do you believe it would harm my clutch to start out in 2nd gear from a stop as long as you feather it out? I’ve done this a few times and it seems ok but I would like your opinion on this. Thanks and stay safe. James.

[@MOBStreet83]

Hey James!! I know some people who do, but I don't since I am on the heavier side. I don't think it would hurt it as long as you aren't dragging it out a lot. Or, you could just drop to a 47 tooth sprocket and that might help eliminate that for you.

[@jamescorth9930]

Ok I think I will give it a shot. It’s quicker getting through those stop lights doing 2nd gear starts. I like the gearing it has now and I ride on BLM too and the low gears are great. I know you had stated in one of your sessions that you went to 52 tooth on the rear on one of your TW’s and liked it and I’ve thought about that also. Probably could start out in second great then. 😂. Ok, thanks again for the info. Take care.

[@jameslyons1661]

🏁👍

[@MOBStreet83]

Thanks James!

[@golchf1]

Hey Matt, I haven't had any trouble finding neutral but I do need to break my clutch free every morning. You ever have this problem?

[@MOBStreet83]

Yeah Chris! Mine does that as well and I am wondering if I need to do an internal adjustment to clear the whole thing up. Just haven't done it yet.

[@golchf1]

@@MOBStreet83 it's not really a big deal but if you forget and drop it in first gear, it's not a great way to start a ride. Thanks for the reply 👍

[@MOBStreet83]

I know what you mean. I am debating whether or not I should open the side case to adjust it. Just haven't done it yet. I try to reply to everyone. I miss a few here and there, but I try to get to all of them.

[@renojacks]

“There’s no glazing or cryin in FreePlay!”….🤣

[@MOBStreet83]

"A League of Their Own" am I right?

[@renojacks]

@@MOBStreet83 🤣🤣

[@renojacks]

@@MOBStreet83 keep it up..looking good..that movie is a classic

[@MOBStreet83]

Thanks much Reno!! I appreciate it!

[@sterlingmounce589]

Thumbs down was accidentally pushed sorry about that

[@MOBStreet83]

That's okay! You know you can change it though right? All you have to do is click the thumbs up instead. Thanks for watching!

[@sterlingmounce589]

I did then. I enjoy your videos we have a tw 200 thanks keep up the good work 👍