Twilight New Moon ~ Lost in Adaptation

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Whether you love or hate The Twilight Saga: New Moon, have you ever wondered how faithfully it adapted the original book by Stephenie Meyer?
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[@ghouling1111]

Also, note- Robert was told he had to act the character that way. He almost got fired from the first movie trying to make Edward less - what he is.

[@jessielefey]

Basically the same with Kristen. Like, poor girl, but as boring as it is, that *is* book accurate Bella. It's only Bella's monologue that gives her any personality; without it you're kinda left with... that. You can compare it to the next two movies when she's allowed to emote and do things. Half of what makes Part 2 is "Bella finally having fun" (the other half being, as MovieBob who will forever be etched on my soul wrt this topic said "the movie fell asleep and dreamt it was a better movie").

[@leaffinite2001]

@@jessielefey its what happened to Harry Potter too. Half his personality was his thoughts, and in movies you dont really get that. So the characters end up pretty boring

[@Xehanort10]

He was rightly trying to play Edward as the obsessive controlling creep the character is not the "tortured romantic hero" Meyer sees him as.

[@Annie_Annie__]

@@leaffinite2001 Hunger Games too. When the first movie came out people complained that Jennifer Lawrence played Katniss too wooden and boring, but if you read the books, without her thoughts that’s how she is. Wooden, stoic, and kinda boring.

[@edoardoprevelato6577]

@@Annie_Annie__ but it made sense for "outward" Katniss to be that way, since she is basically a slave she has been taught to keep her head down and avoid notice. With Edward and Bella, there is no motivation to be found

[@fat1fared]

Hats off for mentioning the toxicity around Jacob's body. As someone who does muscle training, it is scary how many people come to do muscle training without realising how dangerous it is when done wrong.

[@iKadaj]

it is scary how many people come without realising how dangerous it is when done wrong.

[@fat1fared]

@@iKadaj Haha. Indeed. I could have worded that better.

[@Ramsey276one]

OUCH O_q

[@taylorgayhart9497]

I was SHOCKED when I heard what these people go through for movies and photo shoots!!! They’re not just training hard, they’re doing things like intentionally dehydrating themselves by drinking red wine while shooting to make them look more defined! Oh and that red wine they’re drinking, it’s on an empty stomach, because on shoot days they don’t eat to make sure their abs are flat and waist is defined. It’s dangerous and has lasting affects on their health. That’s not even touching on the steroids…

[@stoyanpetkov3853]

Also, the fact he was 16 during the filming.

[@alicethemad1613]

I love how hammy the Volturi all go with their performances in the movies. It’s like all these older respectable actors just decided if they were going to be in a goofy little teen vampire romance they were going to go as “vampire” as possible. Michael Sheen is doing everything to be creepy and eccentric short of a silly Dracula accent and Marcus’s actor gives him this energy of the human personification of dust. It just makes them so much more entertaining to watch.

[@rustyshackle8000]

If someone told me "You're gonna play an ancient Italian vampire watching a forbidden human-vampire romance," I would ABSOLUTELY have as much fun with it as possible

[@Xehanort10]

They probably thought "This is complete shit so let's have fun with it."

[@DearxMyxSongs]

“The human personification of dust” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@thequeenofcringe1585]

They all collectively said “this is going to be so fucking stupid. I’m in.”

[@coiler_119]

@@DearxMyxSongs I mean, if that's not a perfect description of Marcus, idk what is

[@julphines]

I chalk up Kristen Stewart's performance to the directing. She's absolute fire in everything she's been in recently. Also I love the "Edward goes to Italy to be killed by Aziraphale" line.

[@MJ-98]

I think it was the role and the directing more than anything. Her acting in the 2004 movie Speak was actually quite good.

[@cheezemonkeyeater]

What has she been in recently?

[@KBWeeds]

@@cheezemonkeyeater She played Princess Diana in Spencer which garnered her nominations for an Oscar, Golden Globe, & Critics Choice awards

[@therealVioletParr]

@@cheezemonkeyeater She was just nominated for an Oscar for her performance as Diana Spencer, and she’s in a Cronenberg movie coming out later this year. Her most recent projects before those were a romcom (Happiest Season), the Charlie’s Angels reboot movie, and a thriller/horror called Underwater. She also won the Cesar Award (France’s highest acting achievement) for her work in Clouds of Sils Maria in 2014. I also recommend The Runaways, Personal Shopper, and American Ultra if you want to watch her give a variety of performances (American Ultra isn’t a great movie but she’s very fun in it).

[@trinaq]

Agreed, Kristen is a great actress, and she's gotten better since then, even being nominated for an Oscar for "Diana!"

[@ElizaGWR]

You know as a person who is of native descent I understand a lot of what its like having individual culture erased, and I love the fact that you are helping by using your platform to point it out even if it is appropriation and erasure of another tribe than my own.

[@Jenifer_R_]

He's also using some of his ad revenue to raise money to help the Quillettes relocate due to global warming. Good guy.

[@ElizaGWR]

@@Jenifer_R_ That's also great!

[@gateauxq4604]

@Jenifer R. I didn’t know that! It’s called ‘Quillute move to higher ground’ and is for moving their cultural center from a location close to erosion to someplace more stable.

[@gateauxq4604]

*for anyone that is interested

[@Jenifer_R_]

@@gateauxq4604 I think 'Amanda The Jedi' also donates some of her ad revenue. You thought Dom was critical?!! Her Twilight revue series is fun to watch.

[@docvince1491]

Apparently, Taylor Lautner suffered serious back pain because of all the exercise done to maintain his physique.

[@BleedingLiar17]

Damn poor guy.

[@BrandonVout]

He had to carry around a bag of hamburger patties and eat two of them at regular intervals to maintain the physique.

[@Turner_Strait]

One thing I will always give these movies is the casting of Michael Sheen as that one guy. Not because it's a particularly good or bad performance or anything, but because he just seems to be having so much FUN! He's so CAMP and just EATS the scenery every time. I absolutely love it 💖

[@AnnaEmilka]

Yes! His enthusiasm is so adorable!

[@michaelsinger4638]

Michael Sheen probably knew how goofy this material was and just decided to run with it.

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

He’s the single best thing about these movies. He is just living it up, clearly knowing he’s in a shit-movie, so decided to go balls-to-the-wall ham.

[@berengustav7714]

Nick Cage basically

[@BrandonVout]

His daughter was a fan of the books and he wanted to be in a film she'd watch. He got his poster on her wall for his troubles. Leading up to the casting, fans wanted Ben Barnes to play Aro (idk why), but Sheen embodied the character and easily won everybody over.

[@ArrowOdenn]

I really enjoyed the scene showing Bella's depression where the camera revolves around her while the seasons change outside the window. It thought it really captured what Meyer was trying to say by leaving pages blank except for the name of the month. Good adaptation-type stuff.

[@jaycievictory8461]

Meyer leaving page after page blank aside from the month - I genuinely thought it was a fantastic writing choice, and I still do

[@marynraven]

Talk about a very good way to represent depression. The book did a great job and the film captured it very well, too. One of the few positive things I'll say about both the book and the movie.

[@OmegaTheSillyWolf]

As someone with chronic depression.. I honestly feel it captures the feeling of depression quite accurately. Now, unfortunately or fortunately (whichever you wanna believe), my depression has never and will never be cured by my one true love returning to me lol. My bf certainly does shine a light in the darkness but depression, at least for someone like me who will most likely be stuck with it for life.. it doesn't go away that fast and certainly not forever. It comes and goes in waves regardless of what's happening in life. Honestly I've got gaps in my memory where I can't remember some months or years (especially from years ago where it lasted ten years) I end up mixing things up because at the time I was very much stuck in that time loop type state. I can't recall anything specific happening and I don't remember what month it is sometimes unless there was a major holiday and even then... its iffy. It's definitely gotten better but I still have weeks or months where it comes back and time just... slips away from me

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

Great adaptation for the film, but this was still used in-book to prove Bella’s love is so much stronger than the love anyone else can have for anyone else. It’s only a problem to Charlie, who is treated like he needs to settle down.

[@Jenifer_R_]

And the Lykke Li song just killed in that scene! I remember reading those four pages for the first time and having such a strong emotional reaction.

[@ArcaneEther]

I often say that Meyer's writing style would be a better fit as a member of a writing team for TV and movies. She generally does come up with some fun and interesting plot elements, but tends to over-write and sloppily explain things. With some additional team members to filter and edit her work down in size, she would be a great asset to film. That's why this adaptation worked so well, because her style is easily adaptable into film.

[@The_Chef2511]

The problem with that is that she's an asshole. She might not be as bad as Erika Mitchell but Meyers was very resistant to any form of editing and she genuinely saw nothing wrong with her culture erasure of the Quiliute, the constant emotional abuse, and the fact that she accidentally wrote Bella and Sparkles as sociopaths. She also didn't seem to realize when she turned into a horror writer. I get that some of it is due to how fucked up conservative Mormonism is but still.

[@KittenUndercover]

She’s rich enough. I hope she just retires completely now.

[@lina9535]

I think she'd do good at writing choose your own adventure books. I mean Bella is basically a "insert yourself" blank slate character, at least in my eyes.

[@osnatashtaralevin8944]

I think the problem with her writing is her core system of beliefs, not her prose... I only lasted through the first book but I remember being disgusted with the obsession the characters displayed towards one another and the fact that it was glorified in the book rather than just being bored by Bella the description of laying in the grass reading a book..

[@Quandry1]

Her Writing style is good for exactly what it is. Questionable fan fiction, It's just somehow she got to turn questionable fan fiction into a profitable franchise without actually improving any of the writing past questionable fan fiction. Which yes, in an extra twist, makes 50 Shades of Grey bad fanfiction of Questionable Fan Fiction that just happened to get the same treatment.

[@JayGrrl]

One of your indigenous viewers raised on the rez here. Thank you so much for the care and consideration you always put in your videos about tribal sovereignty and indigenous representation. Also i died at the end credit song. I am also wolf clan and loved the original song for that; this is 20 times better. Props to them as well xD

[@DukeSkylocker]

In defense of Chris Weitz, the studio basically took Golden Compass out of his hands and edited it to remove any commentary on religion. He himself called the whole thing the worst experience of his life so I don't think it's fair to blame him for butchering the novel. Other than that I think he has a very solid resume and it's not hard to see why the studio picked him to direct the second (even if it does feel unfair to Hardwicke, although I can see why Summit would want to release the movies as closely spaced as possible as they had no idea how long the Twilight phenomenon would last, not to mention the book series was only set over the coarse of a little over a year, which has kind of been a problem for a lot of YA series - they have such short in universe time spans that movies series have to rush through the adaptation before the actors get too old for the parts).

[@lina9535]

I agree with the Weitz part. The studio was the main villain, he only had a small part as a result from the studios decision.

[@khills]

Dude seems to have an unfortunate habit of studios screwing with his movies - Rogue One was tampered with, too, and ended up taking what could have been a fantastic war movie into something,…less.

[@ineednochannelyoutube2651]

I still think Rouge One is good, but it definitely could have been better. What did the film look like before Disney got their hands on it? I’m curious if anyone knows.

[@khills]

@@ineednochannelyoutube2651 they recut and reshot the conclusion - some of the details of how people died changed, the pacing was different. (Which also explains why there are just oodles of continuity errors.) There must be videos on KZbin about it,…

[@ineednochannelyoutube2651]

@@khills Thanks for responding! I'll look around.

[@hannahsmith8464]

It's also very important to note that Stephanie Meyer did NOT compensate the Quileute people for the use and bastardisation of their culture and tribe/reservation. They are currently fundraising to move to higher ground out of a tsunami zone ! If you enjoy the twilight series please consider donating to them !

[@michaelsinger4638]

Very scummy.

[@kaydenvega4635]

Its sad how she's approaching this situation with complete disregard and disrespect.

[@yunamchill9169]

@@kaydenvega4635 And I met a commenter who's apparently from that tribe who had the nerve to tell me that it actually benefited them. They were an ass to me, so I didn't bother to answer, but I wish he would have watched those videos

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

I don’t think there’s necessarily a financial payment that needs to go along with using a culture in books (especially considering the vast majority of books will never make much money, it’s not like the typical unknown author would have the money to write checks, which would lead to a decrease in diversity in books), but it needs to be done with the utmost of respect, rather than treating them like stereotypes where the chief can’t afford shoes for his kid and sacred rituals are on lawn chairs around a fire for the entertainment of a white girl. Worse, IRL. fans traipsing all over their land caused a lot of damage, and then those fans went and bought shit in Forks, leaving the tribal people to foot the bills to repair the damage, and never once did Meyer stop to tell fans to know that shit out and show some respect. She herself has no respect. She’s so racist.

[@cygnahoshiko4629]

I definitely agree that it's not necessary in general to compensate, but also? a huge dick move, considering how much money SMeyer has made from these books, and how the Quileute fundraiser is Right There, providing a convenient place to donate money to benefit the whole tribe, to just...act like they don't exist.

[@myriamwarren]

The only thing I remember from this movie is being uncomfortable with all the screaming at Jacob taking his shirt off. And continuing to be uncomfortable as my classmates talked about it. Teenage me did not know she was asexual hahahahaha

[@Rozdlc]

Same haha. I remember my friends going crazy over Jacob and all I can think was "Is it weird that I feel so indifferent?"

[@TeruteruBozusama]

I read all the books because a friend was a fan, and read them all in a week in English*. I... Honestly don't remember much... I'm aroace, so I skipped all the romance parts... So I was left with something very bland and boring. If anything, it was just irritating due to the vampires and werewolves not being very interesting and the whole thing giving me bad feelings. *English isn't my first language. One of my cousins later reading the first in English in a week, but for some reason gave me the local translation for my birthday looking like it had been read..!

[@francesduncandoes]

I'm ace too. Watching this movie in my late 20s was the first time I'd felt things (realising they are teenagers makes it pretty gross), did not realise other people felt things all the time. Didn’t recall this till recently when I realised I'm ace.

[@Xehanort10]

What was creepy was middle aged women thirsting over underage teen Taylor Lautner.

[@Annie_Annie__]

I was in my mid-20s at the time and I was SO annoyed by my friends that were freaking out over Robert and Taylor. I had a difficult pregnancy that year, and spent a lot of time on bed rest, so I read all 4 books. I did not get the appeal at all. A friend tried to get me to watch those first two movies and I still didn’t get the appeal. I was married with a baby and hadn’t realized yet that I was demisexual, lol. I had always just described it that all my friends were boy/girl-crazy and I wasn’t. As a teen, I can remember my friends saying the only good part about football is the pants show off the guys’ butts. I was so confused, like “why would you want to see a guy’s butt? How can a butt be ‘cute’?” But with the Twilight thing it was weird. Women my age and older were drooling over teenage boys. They’d talk about how gross it was if their husbands/boyfriends talked about how attractive Emma Watson is, then turn around and squeal over Taylor Lautner, who’s 2 years younger than her. It just seemed gross to me.

[@KoiPuff]

You can see a little bit of the light die in Kristen Stewart’s eyes when she says “pale faces”.

[@ParisLawLess]

Me being Native American I really appreciate you educating people on what this movie got culturally wrong and how veered into weird stereotypes. Most people don't know that every tribe has their own culture patterns rituals and language. What I think most people don't understand is when you are Native American and you watch films that have stereotypical Native American characters it's actually uncomfortable to watch. Especially when these characters are played by white actors. I think it's important for indigenous people to have characters of their culture to look up to an actual people of their culture playing their culture on screen. LOL the irony is it would take a British guy to explain to Americans what they're getting wrong with Native indigenous culture in this film.

[@Crouteceleste]

I don't know what's wrong with people, are they really that stupid or do they enjoy being careless and racist? I'm French so I'm faaaaaaar away from knowing anything about Native American's culture, but the first thing I've learned from movies and old boy-scout books is that Native American tribes all have different names. So it's a very logical thing to think that means they are all different with different traditions, like regional cultures in my tiny country… People should use their brain more often. And also cast appropriate people for a given role. With all the resources nowadays it's just a matter of will to find a suitable actor or actress for a role.

[@idontexist1966]

To be fair they aren't real Americans to begin with.

[@ParisLawLess]

@@idontexist1966 yeah you're right you probably shouldn't exist

[@rogueknight2769]

As a fellow Native Canadian I agree with you. I’ve never read or watched Twilight until this year but holy shit Stephanie Meyer got so many things wrong and it’s clear she didn’t do any research just probably fantasized about what we’re like as a people. She’s so insulting and racist in her books but the thing is I don’t think she realizes it. I genuinely don’t think she realized a lot of the harmful things she wrote and put out there into the world.

[@coiler_119]

I forget if this was first mentioned in New Moon or Eclipse, but my favorite thing about the wolf pack was the fact that they leave caches of clothes all around the forest to change into. Idk, it was just so goofy but practical

[@samf.s.7731]

Some American retail company must have made some serious dough out of supplying that pack...

[@rustyshackle8000]

Meyer has interesting little tit bits like that, that if they were filtered, could make for a really interesting take on vampires and werewolves

[@MogamiKyoko13]

I have very vivid memories of the midnight release of this movie and one dude in the audience wolf whistling when Jacob took his shirt off and yelling "put it back on!" when Edward took his off. The whole theater absolutely exploded in laughter at this guy's heckling.

[@Jenifer_R_]

It was like Edward took his shirt off and every teenage girl in the world was disappointed.

[@FadzaiSimango]

@@Jenifer_R_ Well he's Batman now, so I'm sure he's got the prerequisite superhero bod.

[@lina9535]

That sounds better than me having gone with my niece (more like forced), and glared at by about 100 girl-preteens for going "ugh" when Jacob took his shirt off. That was terrifying.

[@Jenifer_R_]

@@FadzaiSimango I know. I remember reading an interview with him a good decade (plus) ago where he was resigning himself to the fact that he was English, and he would never have a superhero bod!! Then I hear, most recently, that he is counting sips of water among carbs and calories on the set of Batman between takes. I prefer Robert-Au-Natural.

[@d.o.m.i.]

"wolf whistling" nice

[@Inka.R.]

Well worth a bit of a wait, I laughed out loud several times 👌 I couldn't comment on Patreon because I seem to have forgotten my password, but your previous post was very considerate and I still wanted to express my admiration of the clear caring you have for your beautiful watchers ♥️

[@christopherjones8448]

Watch "Because you seem to have forgotten your password, but fear not!" Be the ending to the next video, you have but yourself to blame 😝

[@salo6724]

Having a tough day right now, so I'm suddenly hyperaware of how calming you are. Thanks for offering such comforts, regardless of topics :) Edit: I only realized early into this video that Michael Sheen is in Twilight so I'm cracking up over you saying Sparkly wants to ask Aziraphael to kill him, having just rewatched Good Omens a few days ago, I just can't xD

[@Dominic-Noble]

Hope you feel better soon

[@salo6724]

@@Dominic-Noble Thanks mate :)

[@MelaniePoparad]

I have discovered his calming voice and use it as a form of medication when necessary.

[@wab2100]

@@MelaniePoparad That's a bit funny. I remember the Dom started taking a more soft spoken aproach in his reviews because it really put a strain in his voice. So it's nice to hear people really apreciate this aspect of his content. Plus it also helps differentiate and distance himself from some other reviewers whose names we will not say.

[@Jenifer_R_]

@@wab2100 SAY THE NAMES!

[@trinaq]

The biggest face-palm moment would have to be Edward thinking that Bella is dead. He doesn't ask Jacob to clarify whose funeral he meant, instantly assumes that it's for Bella, doesn't question why Jacob isn't at the funeral, and apparently believes that Bella died and was buried on the same day.

[@heathercontois4501]

Sadly, he wasn't waiting for Alice to tell him she was alive, just assumed since she couldn't see her anymore.

[@princeapoopoo5787]

Usually I can excuse characters dropping their brain cells, but Edward is like hundreds of years old. He really ought to know better.

[@celinahatton2653]

In the movie, Jacob said that Charlie was arranging a funeral, not at a funeral. I can't remember if this is the same line in the novel.

[@AnnaEmilka]

I think in the book it was actually Rosalie's fault, as she relied Alice's vision to Edward and didn't mention Alice going to Forks to check it, so he thought it's 100% certain.

[@nocturnalizzie]

@@AnnaEmilka Yeah, Rosalie tells Edward that Alice saw Bella yeet herself off a cliff and then couldn't see her after that. He calls the Swan house in a panic and when Jacob says that Charlie is arranging a funeral, he (understandably) assumes that funeral is for Bella.

[@chocolate-pyrus8916]

As someone with depression, it's deeply confusing how this movie portrays Bella's character. She's clearly struggling with undiagnosed clinical depression. And how she self destructs when she loses the seemingly only exciting thing her life, and it makes her family and friends worry about her. It's pretty legit and relatable. I was never into the series, but I still connected to Bella in the first few movies. But the problem is it rewards her by using her possible suicide attempt as a way to get her back with the guy who left her. If she hadn't almost died, then she never would have seen him again. Not only is it awful for someone to use threats against themselves to stay in a relationship (which is something real people do) but to also frame it as something romantic that these two have such a unhealthy dependency on each other. I really wish it was just a story about a mentally ill girl who recovers from a abusive relationship and realizes that she's happier with the person who's been her friend all this time.

[@juliameyer10313]

it also tries to make it seem like getting back together heals her instantly. Being in a relationship doesn't stop depression and doesn't protect from having it

[@ahagotcha]

Oh well both Bella and Edward are have very unhealthy amount of codependency level

[@TheAmityElf]

You nailed it when you pointed out just how loyal these adaptations were, relative to the awful adaptations of better stories. Although I love fix-it content for Twilight way more than the canon-compliant stuff, and I love thinking about the little changes they could make (and in some cases did make) to avoid the problems of the books.

[@catandrobbyflores]

Polish a turd, it's still a turd.

[@judeannethecandorchannel2153]

Maybe I was just too much in need of escapist romance 💜 with a beleaguered, codependent, introverted girl and smoldering, intense, guilt ravaged guy to notice the problems & the problematic when I read it, but I throughly enjoyed the first novel. And, as I just wrote on the main thread, I thought the otherwise very talented Catherine Hardwick didn't do a very good job adapting it. 😔 I thought the 2nd and 3rd movies were way too melodramatic. In my mind only the 2 Breaking Dawn movies were actually properly directed, by Bill Condon. 🥰 So I've only read the 1st novel, thus I can't have opinions about the other 3 novels. But again my opinion about the movies is that only the 4th and 5th were in any way like the universe of the book. The mistakes in adaptation in the first three were perhaps subtle (most subtle with Hardwick at the helm of movie #1), but bad enough that they really took me out of it. I've learned to enjoy those movies as guilty pleasures, but they don't please and satisfy me the way that the 1st novel did or the way that the two halves the Breaking Dawn movie do. 😋💐⚘

[@kingthe13]

@@catandrobbyflores id say more like removing some shit and adding spices to a shit soup may make it taste less shit but at the end of the day your still eating shit

[@TheAmityElf]

@@judeannethecandorchannel2153 I consider the first movie the strongest, in that it has a distinct tone and style and is earnest about itself in a way most of the other movies aren't. Also, the first movie has most of the best-executed scenes of the series, like the introduction of the Cullens in the cafeteria or the famous baseball scene. I like the third movie for giving a good amount of focus to a good amount of characters (especially since I never particularly cared about Bella or Edward, so much as the other Cullens and the wolves and the Volturi, etc.). I enjoyed the books, though the first was never my favorite. And to be fair, I think there are demographic factors in how much of the problematic stuff one notices. A black person (or someone with enough knowledge of American history to know what the Confederacy is) is more likely to notice problems with Jasper's backstory, etc. And the more glaring faults don't show up in the first book. When I read that one, my only initial query was how she could possibly enjoy any kind of physical affection with someone with cold and inflexible skin. Which I still find to be kind of a weakness of the worldbuilding. SO many people care about the sparkles; I don't care about the sparkles; I care that the Denalis are vampire women having recreational relations with human men, and their whole bodies are made of vampire skin.

[@Di7manya]

I'm guessing that its easier to adapt a mediocre/bad book with a pretty simple and straightforward story faithfully than complex stories with rich themes. In the case of Twilight it benefits from trimming internal monologues and extraneous bs, so even if you cut out the fluff the story is still completely itself. With other more well thought out stories, cutting certain seemingly irrelevant characters or events can have terrible ripple effects that bring down the whole thing, let alone sequences that might not work in a visual medium or are too hard to translate to screen. It also requires the people adapting it to understand the core themes of the original work, which again is easier if they aren't super complex, like Twilight.

[@taylorgayhart9497]

You touched on his muscles being unnatural for his age, and I wanted to expand on that. Best case scenario he participated in dangerous workout and eating routines to bulk up, as well as intentionally dehydrating himself on shoot days to look more defined (as is “standard” on movie sets and photo shoots around the world). Worst case scenario is that on top of those things he also used steroids to bulk up. There are also shady doctors in LA who will prescribe unnecessary medications to help celebs achieve different weight loss/gain goals. Keep in mind he was doing this as a TEENAGER when his body and brain were still developing. It’s incredibly dangerous, and the studio really sucks for how they treated him.

[@hannahelyse2671]

Noble: Spends a damn near half hour trashing on Twilight. Explaining in a very polite, articulate, intelligent, point-by-point manner all the ways the books and movies fall short. Me: You know, it HAS been a while since I last watched....

[@mcvenne8935]

Same! XD I both love Twilight and love trashing on it. As long as it's actual criticism and not just bashing with zero arguments, it's all good.

[@jonasquinn7977]

Something I find funny is that being unable to hear Bella’s inner monologue puts us more in Edward’s position of not being able to read her mind and thus falling in love with her because he doesn’t realise what a petty, judgmental bitch she can be Which just makes the fact that their marriage is doomed because as soon as she stops shielding her mind from him he’ll see how wrong he was even funnier

[@Xehanort10]

He'll think "I was reading her mind all along. There's just nothing in here."

[@thomasraines1396]

If Eddy could read her mind he would be just as bored by her that he is everyone else.

[@dustymuffincop2481]

I wish someone would write that and to add salt to the wound, have him run off with that blonde vampire Bella was jealous of or even the dad. Whichever is funnier.

[@noelbernabe8704]

I think even without mind reading, Edward was able to see what a petty judgemental bitch Bella could be when he saw her asking Jacob to kiss her the day after she agreed to marry him. Probably being it didn't matter... he was already in love with her by then.

[@jonasquinn7977]

@@noelbernabe8704 I’m a little spotty but didn’t she only do that because Jacob threatened to kill himself via the battle if she didn’t?

[@kittyles5730]

Minor detail: Edward didn't take back the radio in the book, Bella clawed it out of her car with her bare hands and threw it into the back of her closet in a bag with her other unopened presents. Edward did take her pictures and music and hid them from her though. She clawed it out because she hated music afterwards, it was too painful to listen to.

[@johannesseyfried7933]

Not just *any* Music though, iirc. ALL Music. Which seems kinda ridiculous.

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

If she ripped it out with her bare hands and fingernails, as Meyer said, then she’d have been institutionalized. That would have caused so much physical damage to her hands, tearing nails and skin off, that there’d be no option but to institutionalize her for a while.

[@bub4522]

@@johannesseyfried7933 I get it - I hate music when depressed

[@LarsaXL]

@@bub4522 Yeah, this is disturbingly relatable.

[@sailorxyz]

So, I had an interesting thought. If Charlie had put his foot down and forced Bella to go back to living with her mom, she would have definitely not survived. She only lived because the werewolves would have naturally hunted the vampires coming after her anyways. Then, no more Twilight 😂

[@StarryEyed0590]

Possibly, or maybe Victoria would have found both her and the Cullens gone and believed they had removed Bella from her reach

[@desi1790]

alas in another world; possibly the multiverse this happens

[@BrandonVout]

@@StarryEyed0590 If James was able to find Renee's house without relying on his gift, I don't think it would've taken Victoria much to search Bella's family properties.

[@StarryEyed0590]

@@BrandonVout I don't remember all the details of how James found Bella (it's been a decade since I read those books, and I don't care to repeat the experience), but tracking people was his Thing, so I imagine he was pretty good at using all different ways to do it. Didn't he also find Bella's OLD home? Didn't Renee move with her new husband? I don't doubt, given enough time and determination, Victoria could find Bella. I just think there's a good chance she would assume Bella moved with the Cullens and either attempt to track and move against them, at which point the Cullens would almost certainly figure out she's after Bella before Victoria had a chance to correct her mistake and re-calibrate, or decide she was outmatched by the Cullen coven and take revenge by idk killing Charlie or something. (Which would have been extremely tragic)

[@BrandonVout]

@@StarryEyed0590 He did find her old home but it wouldn't have taken much to find where she moved to (paper trail, "talking" with her old co-workers, etc.) if he hadn't come up with his recording bait plan. Victoria was cautious, I think she would've exhausted all of her options to find Bella before trying to go after the Cullens directly.

[@ragnarockerbunny]

The problem with New Moon is that nothing really happens in it. Bella and Edward break up, Bella finds out Jacob is a werewolf, Bella and Edward get back together... Minus the werewolf thing, the story is exactly where the previous book left off. It reeks of a a first draft sequel that didn't get the care it needed in the edit.

[@AnnaEmilka]

Yes! Even when I was a teen and super into those books, I thought that New Moon is the most boring one

[@jbcatz5]

It’s a novel length world building exercise.

[@ragnarockerbunny]

@@jbcatz5 This is the perfect way to describe the book.

[@thomasraines1396]

It could be described with a quote from game reviewing KZbinr called Ben “Yahtzee” Croshaw: “it’s a lot like driving to Alice Springs: a whole lot of effort to end up fucking nowhere.”

[@noelbernabe8704]

A couple key things do occur in New Moon. Even though Bella and Edward get back together, Bella does end up falling in love (to some degree) with Jacob too. That's something that likely could not have occured had Edward not left. And Jacob being a rival for Edward does effect the story moving foreward. The second thing which leaves a huge impact is Edward exposing the Cullens to the Volturi. That creates a sort of danger lingering in the background for the remainer of the series until the end. Overall, New Moon established the love triangle (which as trivial as that may be to most of us likely earned the Twilight franchise millions of dollars) as well as setting up the series ultimate big bad. So it had a pretty big effect on the franchise moving foreward.

[@sharkofjoy]

"me and my boys on the reservation take off our shirts in the vegetation" I'm dead and you killed me this is murder

[@fredloewen227]

Anyone else had to replay: "Jacob keep your shirt on." "NO" A dozen times? Never gets old!!!!

[@Ramsey276one]

Considering how it happens in other IPs “Grey, WHERE ARE YOUR CLOTHES??” XD

[@curestarlight3023]

"Exit left pursued by wolf." Why does that line make me laugh so much 😆😆😆

[@johnnyd3158]

If Taylor Lautner still had an acting career, he would have made a great Superboy in my opinion.

[@MsCassidy23]

Considering how many times Kon is seen carrying Tim around during the Red Robin series, your theory just planted a hilarious image in my head.

[@johnnyd3158]

@@MsCassidy23 Well, I don’t much about Superboy, as I didn’t even know of his real name until now. I just thought about how cool Lautner would look wearing the signature black shirt with the red Superman crest as he kinda looks like Superboy in my opinion. Although, that mention about Kon and Tim was a bit of a surprise when I looked that up as it was just as surprising as the time when I initially looked up the term palletshipping.

[@MsCassidy23]

@@johnnyd3158 🤣Yeah, Lautner would have looked cool as Superboy. There are so many different takes on the character, I wonder if he would fit the retro 90's version as well.

[@Xehanort10]

Twilight was a metaphorical knife to the heart of his career.

[@johnnyd3158]

@@Xehanort10 You know your acting career has sunk so low when you’ve starred in Grown Ups 2, lol.

[@wtfrocks8663]

12:36 - I've noticed that every trope established by Shakespeare, Austin, and Wilde can be broken down into simple terms by the comedy of Monty Python.

[@Olivia_Dreamrider]

This is the way

[@dechha1981]

They copyrighted a tattoo design they stole??!! Alright, I really hope someone of Native American ancestry gets caught trying to sell bootleg Jacob merchandise and the trial goes to court. I’d love to see their lawyers try to defend that.

[@trinaq]

Bella is clearly heartbroken by the break-up, to the point of developing night terrors and depression. Yet Charlie barely even intervenes, only vaguely suggesting that she see a therapist, and not doing more to help her, which seems out of character for him.

[@ameliahilton604]

Have you seen the deleted scenes? They have a couple heartwarming scenes between Charlie and bella

[@brittanybecker170]

Because Meyers' culture doesn't believe mental illness is real and that a woman's role is complete dependence on her man.

[@Xehanort10]

I think the fact she keeps trying to hallucinate Edward through near suicide makes her more insane than heartbroken.

[@aniflowers1998]

If I remember right, and it's been a while since I read the books/watched the movies, he did originaly try to help her by waking her from her nightmares to calm her down. But after a while he just kind of gave up. While never directly stated why, I asume it was becouse he was overwhelmed and just accepted it as the new "normal" every night. He did also try to encourage her multiple times to hang out with friends. But when you are a single parent and your child shuts down completely, I can understand not knowing what to do and how to help them. So him trying to send her back to her mom also makes sense.

[@maggiecramer8154]

I always got the feeling that he is just overwhelmed and out of his depth

[@Nirin1984]

It always bugged the bleep out of me that Jacob wasn’t played by an actor that was, A, a native B, freakishly tall C, older looking It was Bella that ripped out the car stereo. 23:21 yes. There are too many to even start.

[@Jenifer_R_]

D, a competent actor

[@Nirin1984]

@@Jenifer_R_ Burn!!

[@noelbernabe8704]

The thing is Jacob IS younger than everyone else. He's like 16. Sure, when he phases he gets bigger and looks older. But in the first movie at least the casting was pretty spot on. Unless they recast Jacob later (and from what I understand they thoght about it), getting a guy who resembled Twlight Jacob and having him bulk up for his New Moon transformation was all they could really do.

[@NunyaBiznessss]

Loving your reviews of this series. I loved it as a kid, grew up to realize all its faults and become subsequently ashamed of it, and now I'm looking back and exploring why I liked it in the first place. You do a great job at showing what this shitshow gets right and being fair in your criticisms of its flaws. I wish there'd been more reviews like this back when they were first coming out.

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

Those of us who tried were called “haters” and told we were sexist against teen girls. I was one of the few who spoke up VERY hard, and was making a name for myself. I had to ditch my then-penname to get away from how bad it got. People speaking up where out there, just usually bullied and harassed into silence.

[@Jenifer_R_]

@@Author.Noelle.Alexandria Society in general loves to 'hate' on teen girls and what they like. Dom admitted he was one of those people, which I respect.

[@chalor182]

This popped up and my first thought was "wait hes already done that.." but I guess it was just the book review and I completely made up in my head that I'd already heard Dom do a lost in adaptation on this lol 😅

[@trinaq]

Yep, I thought that he'd done an episode on "New Moon" already, but it was just the book review.

[@KBWeeds]

He did. He’s looking newly at Twilight series to see if his opinions have changed.

[@jonasquinn7977]

Yeah I think when he initially started the Twilight series due to realising that his initial hatred was for superficial reasons of it being popular to do so and the widespread belief that nothing teenage girls like can be good he intended to do the adaptation reviews soon after It’s just that the books filled him with such new and legitimate rage and hatred for the series that he needed an extensive break before forcing himself to watch the movies and re-familiarise himself with the books

[@annelyle5474]

@@jonasquinn7977 Thanks for the explanation - I was getting serious deja vu there!

[@haku8135]

No relationship where it ends and you just cease all functioning should be encouraged and considered healthy. You should be sent to THERAPY and kept far the fuck away from that person.

[@ellencoleman4604]

One thing I do think they changed in this and subsequent films was the Volturi being portrayed as outright villains rather than antagonists - in the books their actions are much more political. Aro is the best example. As much as I love Michael Sheen's portrayal, he was never sadistic. He's a much more 'lawful neutral' character while Caius is the more bloodthirsty, and Marcus merciful. In the books Aro is actually the one to suggest the loophole of turning Bella in the future so Caius doesn't kill them on the spot. Much of the tension with the Volturi stems from whether Aro considers characters a threat to their existence and uphold of the law. It makes him an interesting morally grey character who is power hungry but with a 'for the greater good' mentality. Incidentally, the greater good is preventing vampires from openly eating people whenever they wanted. It's kind of funny that the 'bad guys' are the only ones holding an apocalypse at bay.

[@noelbernabe8704]

I think that's one of the changes which are often make when you translate something to the big screen. THe bad guys need to be more threatening. There needs to be more action. Breaking Dawn 2 is where we see the difference the most. You want higher stakes, bigger threats, and more butt kicking because a certain portion of the movie audience will be bored without it. And I still think they mostly got Aro right. He was threatening and scary, but you can see he didn't want to kill anyone and was waiting for ANY excuse to let them off the hook because he didn't want them dead. He wanted their power. So even with the subltle changes I think the book was overall represented pretty well in this regard. Overall I think New Moon is one f the more accurate book translations out there.

[@charliemallonee2792]

Man, morally grey vampires seizing power to keep their more savage brethren in check sounds so interesting. If only they weren’t the same group regularly abducting and feasting on tourists.

[@torababble3046]

I'd love to see you do a Lost In Adaptation of the Hogfather movie (2006, directed by Vadmin Jean). I think it's by far the best Discworld book-to-screen adaptation. Maybe as a reward for yourself after making it through the Twilight saga?

[@Crouteceleste]

I don't know much about Discworld but I enjoyed the Hogfather movie very much, made me want to read the whole series, that I suspect is better. Now, if I could find time…

[@unfabgirl]

This review has Twilight discussion, Good Omens and Monty Python jokes, and Dom's beautiful voice. It is just what I need after the week I've had. Thank you for not only putting a smile on my face, but making me laugh so many times. Admittedly, my depression has been getting worse the last few months and your videos always brighten my day.

[@kbomb234]

My mom and dad went to see this movie on a date night because quote, "It couldn't be *that* bad, could it?" Halfway through the movie, my mom says my dad was white-knuckling the chair rests of his seat, begging the werewolves to just claw his throat out and get it over with. So yeah, bad movie

[@Jenifer_R_]

Your dad is great. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@samf.s.7731]

Your adult parents went to see a movie whose primary target audience is teen girls?! My man, I don't think that movie is what's bad here... I mean, it is bad, but can't hold a candle to your parents' thought process that night. Sorry bro!

[@kbomb234]

@@samf.s.7731 it's what the kids call "curiosity" and boy did it backfire

[@Jenifer_R_]

@@samf.s.7731 If we all thought like that, then only kids would have seen Harry Potter and the entire MCU could only be seen by 30 year old men who live in their parent's basement.

[@GainsTuesday]

Worth pointing out Rob Pattinson has given some pretty great performances since Twilight, particularly in The Lighthouse and The Devil All the Time. Uncharitable to box him in as just Edward. Talented actor, this guy!

[@khills]

KStew is pretty fantastic, too - pretty much a bunch of great actors with a bad script and one assumes good paycheck.

[@samf.s.7731]

I would pick Good Time over those two performandes, that one remains his best imo to date.

[@GainsTuesday]

@@samf.s.7731 Great example of his skill! I'd forgotten that one just because there's no trace of the actor there, just the character, which is a bona fide testament to talent.

[@Xehanort10]

His Batman in The Batman is great too.

[@PassTheMarmalade1957]

Let me just veer off topic for one sec to say that the colour coordinated shirt and earring are *bomb as fuck.*

[@nalinea18]

I guess the moviemakers decided to change the reason behind Harry Clearwater's heart attack since the original was just: "Ohmigerd, a _female_ werewolf? Bleergh…" Because Meyer just completely screwed Leah over, nothing good could happen to that poor gal. Or it was because New Moon has so little interesting shit happening that they grasped at anything they could. Either way it's an improvement.

[@Author.Noelle.Alexandria]

Her treatment of Leah is appalling, and fan-reaction to Rosalie is appalling. Rose has a damned good point, and both of these characters deserved better.

[@jbcatz5]

Poor Leah, the only girl in a boys club and being part of a sort of gestalt or shared mind with teenage boys. Alice and Esme are probably the only female characters not called Bella who aren’t treated badly. Jessica is painted as in the wrong for being upset Bella used tough looking bikers to get an adrenaline rush for her Edward fix and for being an alibi so Bella won’t have to deal with Charlie, and Angela has the presence of “oh yeah, she exists”. In fact, if you’re human and stay human, and present a valid point that conflicts with the interests of Bella you’ll be treated as the bad guy in the situation.

[@Xehanort10]

Harry Clearwater. The man so sexist he died of a heart attack after finding out that "gasp" there was a woman werewolf.

[@Xehanort10]

@@jbcatz5 Bella's a Mary Sue that's why.

[@noelbernabe8704]

@@Author.Noelle.Alexandria Though Rose made a descent point, I think she was also terribly short sighted. If Bella stays human, the Volturi will likely kill them all. Edwards trip to Italy makes this a bigger issue than just Bella. But I think her own issues clouded Rose to the bigger picture.

[@edisonlima4647]

I finally see what everyone meant whenever it was brought up that it is endlessly frustrating that Meyer could have clearly written quite good horror instead of subpar romance if she wanted to. I have to say, the way you described the plot... it DOES feel like there is a much more interesting and tense version of this whole story that could have being written/filmed with surprisingly fewer changes than I would have expected given Twilight's infamy and I'm quite curious about what that version of the same story would have read/looked like... I guess sometimes what the heart wants is not what we are good at. At all.

[@Crouteceleste]

I agree with some commenters earlier who said that her writing would have been better suited for TV. We got Vampire Diaries and things like the later seasons of Teen Wolf or the new version of Charmed, I would have hated less a Twilight-like series written by her than a full set of books and movies… The badness would have been diluted into the corny-ness of teen TV dramas.

[@smilehappyface8]

12:29 You referring to Aro as Aziraphale made me do a double take and when I tell you that I SNORTED omg

[@3lcw385]

Thanks for including the references to Good Omens and Monty Python. They made me laugh.

[@jaycievictory8461]

Oh my God. Copyrighting the original tribal artwork and refusing to even share any of the profits is HORRIFIC

[@nocturnalizzie]

I almost choked on my food when you played that clip at the very beginning even though I've seen it many times before. Great analysis, as usual! The Jacob we got to know in this movie/book is why I bought a "I run with wolves" tote back in the day. That tote bag doesn't get to leave my house very much.

[@Jenifer_R_]

Where is that clip from? Is it a parody film?

[@sarahtaylor4264]

So if a Quileute artisan wanted to make and sell something featuring a traditional design from their own tribe they would get sued for it. What the fuck?

[@dwebus1020]

Laughing in the first 5 seconds, well played.

[@Arcanist_Gaming]

Ngl, I enjoy Michael* Sheen playing supernatural creatures far more than I should.

[@MsWillowbayOrelse]

Michael Sheen :) Unless you are doing a Staged ref where Martin and Michael keep getting confused for each other.

[@Arcanist_Gaming]

@@MsWillowbayOrelse Fuuuuucccckkkk. I _always_ do this. Thank you lol

[@Arcanist_Gaming]

@@MsWillowbayOrelse I also always call Michael Reeves (the science dude) "Christopher Reeves." I have a problem, clearly XD

[@MsWillowbayOrelse]

@@Arcanist_Gaming Nps :)

[@heathercontois4501]

To be fair, the character she plays has no substance. She did try. Poor girl.

[@ctuten5275]

I can remember a time in my life when I was embarrassed that I had read these books and really liked them. I remember my friend had let me borrow the first three in preparation for the release of the 4th book, and for the first movie. I remember LOVING the first 3 books, and chose to overlook the problematic issues of the 4th book. Then after watching the first movie I had the sinking realization that maybe these weren’t good books 😂 which was then confirmed when I skimmed through the first book and felt instantly weirded out by everything I remember enjoying.

[@OcarinaSapphr-]

From what I heard, if he didn’t bulk up he was going to lose the role...

[@IISheireenII]

Why am I not surprised to read that... Hey, in this book it turns out that character is a supernatural beeing and goes through a supernatural transformation that gives him super muskles even in human form and is in universe treated as a surprisingly fast change that makes him look about 5 years older than he is because of his physique. That is probably something we should recreate with an actual teenager, right? Sounds healthy. .. Hollywood you have a problem

[@shareetz3154]

@@IISheireenII one of the few times casting a young-looking adult instead of a teenager for the role would have made sense.

[@kenzieken1436]

I'm so thankful for your channel, it helps me through my shit days Every episode is worth the wait. Not every KZbinr puts the dedication you do even when you hate the subject matter 🤣🖤

[@sarahspring661]

Yes,thank you!!!

[@faithlessone423]

Is it weird that I enjoyed these movies a lot more when I discovered how much Kristin and Rob hated them?? Love this LIA though - I hadn't really realised just how FAITHFUL they are.

[@incw.2601]

First MCR drops a new song and now this? Is it someone's birthday??? This was great.

[@mrbutterswuzhere]

I really feel that the reason Jasper snapped wasn't as much of him not having control over his bloodlust, but with him being an empath he felt the bloodlust of every other Cullen, except maybe Carlisle, and wasn't able to control that much bloodlust. Meyer states in one of the books, if not multiple books, that Jasper is affected by the emotions of the other Cullens often, especially Alice and it makes him act oddly at times. Would make SO much sense as to why he has SO much trouble with his bloodlust if he is feeling all the others' as well. I get that it is hinted that his issues are because of how long he was a human blood drinker, but no other vampire that used to or still does drink human blood seem to have as much of a issue with it as Jasper.

[@margaretschaufele6502]

Oh that's something to consider. Of course, Meyer didn't do much with it. That seems to be a theme with her. I think she got popular way too fast.

[@ellietischler]

That makes so much sense, great theory!

[@jediping]

Would love to see your thoughts on the Brannaugh Poirot movies. I feel like Death on the Nile was much better than Orient Express, possibly because they could compress some of the extra characters.

[@nextstop-everywhere]

I reckon Meyer should have just made up a tribe instead of misrepresenting a real one, if she had to include one at all.

[@noelbernabe8704]

Yeah, once Meyers got in in her head that these guys were going to start imprinting on babies, she probably needed to seriously consider just using a fictional tribe. Imagine if someone wrote a story where Mormons imprinted on babies.. how would she feel?

[@kieralovesjoxer123]

"Acting like Daria except she's on the edge of a panic attack" LMAO

[@Charolette21]

Hot take: Alice should have been the one to turn her, it'll be WAY less weird that way.

[@CorbCorbin]

Misogynistic hate for Stewart? Sure. She was wooden, mumbling, barely makes reactions and none of it to help her character’s “virginity” issue, which was a big part of the story, because Eddie would allegedly grind her bones into dust, if they did things Ah natural, and Jakey the Wolf Snake, can’t wait to grind her bones into dust Ah natural… The two male leads saw the most blatant fan lusting over “Teams” since people were naming them for who Brad Pitt would end up with; the angelic Anniston or Devilish Jolie? I just don’t see the misogynistic problems, at least nothing that wasn’t purposely put into the movie. The entire movie is “I’m in the friend zone ennui,” until the end.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

Just more of Dom projecting his SJW/Woke bias into his review. He's been doing that more these days. I love his reviews but it makes me cringe whenever he feels the need to remind the audience he's woke. Like how he wouldn't shut up about Jacob being "whitewashed" in the movies.

[@CorbCorbin]

@@PlanetZoidstar Well, it’s not even really needed with this author’s lazy imaginings, of the actual historicity of any of the characters.

[@PlanetZoidstar]

@@CorbCorbin Yeah, but that doesn't stop Dom whinging in woke in pretty much every review where he can find something to project at. He took issue with a white man taking over the sequels even though most agree the 1st movie is the weakest. Dom seems to have self-loathing issues as this isn't the first time he's taken shots at white men in his reviews. Like his Village of the Damned review where he used "old white men" as a perjorative. As a male Feminist he loathes women being objectified but is all to eager to remind us he's bi by making suggestive jokes about the attractive male actors in the movies he reviews. I like Dom's reviews for the most part but one of these days he's likely to get cancelled if he keeps up the identity politics commentary. Just ask Lindsay Ellis.

[@aliasv6964]

I read the books as a teen. I remember thinking some aspects of the lore was cool. Vampire powers unique to them and their lives. I feel bad now not knowing the werewolves were not well researched. I just thought they were beyond cool. I never watched the movies as I at the time pretended I was too cool for such things.

[@kazejonin]

Calling Aro "Aziraphale" really made my day

[@jemdragons3120]

I remember being dragged to that movie when it first came out. I spent the whole thing Aggressively Bored and ended up hating the entire franchise because of it

[@Tyr666Thor]

Saying I "dragged" you feels a little unfair sis XD

[@cuteclau]

Why can't this level of dedication be applied to the books I love? 🤣🤣🤣 I know it's true, but it made me laugh so hard.

[@GriffinPilgrim]

Sheen at least seems to have decided on the smart line of providing these films with a buffet table's worth of ham.

[@lesliemills3153]

Why did "Twilight" get dedicated directors while "Discworld" got the paint-by-budget treatment? Simple: it is difficult to take comedy seriously. Romance, on the other hand, enhances the director's resume as it is part of the drama genre.

[@silexxeedits]

When you called Aro "Aziraphale" at 12:29, I almost spat out my drink, I just love Good Omens so much!

[@gurglequeen433]

The next installment of Breaking Dom.

[@mikakestudios5891]

"Constantly on the verge of a panic attack " sure sums up my teenage girl experience.

[@chelsies1535]

I HATE that I can remember this but I'm like 90% sure that Bella is the one that rips out the stero, mainly because Edward later discovers its gone and is confused and they talk about it

[@amityislandchum]

I'm confused by you saying that the "gay allegory" line was dropped in the movie. The movie, if anything, goes even further with it. Bella: Can't you find a way to just... stop? I mean, *it's wrong.* Jacob: It's *not a lifestyle choice,* Bella. I was *born this way.* Bella: It's not what you are. *It's what you do.* The emphasis is mine, to show the lines that directly parallel the "debate" around homosexuality in religious circles.

[@juliameyer10313]

Alice when she sees Bella is alive: "How are you not dead?" not "Oh my gosh I'm so glad you're alive" or "Thank f*ck, I thought you died". Infuriatingly she also doesn't go "Thank you Jacob for saving my friends' life" and instead goes "You and your pack of mutts (which only exists because of the Cullens btw. and the VeggieVamps have no legitimate reason to hate the pack) flaw my visions making me wrong in my assumption that Bella died"

[@RANima71498]

0:10 Finally! The unofficial Jacksfilms/Dominic Noble Crossover I never knew I wanted!!!

[@danielleullrich263]

I love the Il Neige end cards so freaking much, I only wish he posted them on his channel so I could make a playlist of them.

[@khills]

Yes! I keep going to look for them because I want them in a playlist!

[@Nixx0912]

Please, for your psychological health, do one that you actually enjoy next.

[@Nixx0912]

I would have a suggestion Eden Robinson's Trickster trilogy. There is a series based on it which I really want to see.

[@Nixx0912]

Second novel "Trickster drift" has a character of a ghost who wears bathrobe, calls himself Adam Dent and spends time watching reruns of Dr Who and Red Dwarf. That was the moment Eden Robinson won my heart. Also she's a Native author writing about Natives in Canada to tie it up whit Twilight treatment of Natives.

[@causticwit]

As someone who, until recently, went into a deep depression after a breakup, it's almost scary how much like Bella I became for a while. 😂

[@ilovezuko80]

I disagree with your feelings Re the blue filter. It is the aesthetic of Twilight FANS the movie is supposed to be for the fans. Also K Stews performance is iconic. Would we still talk about twilight if she didn’t have the most off the wall performance I’ve ever seen? Maybe, maybe not.

[@Xehanort10]

A filter that makes it look lIke it's constantly raining when it isn't sucks.

[@saiyasha848]

Did you call Aro Aziraphel on accident? Because I found that hilarious, having just watched a Good Omens reaction.

[@cuileth3369]

Not on accident, I‘m sure, more like a reference ^^

[@nadjakari1752]

Actually the part about her becoming depressed and reaching out to the actions that would kind of keep the memory closer to the person she lost… reminded me faithfully of what I went through when my first boyfriend died in a traffic accident. I could actually relate to that. At least in the book( and I read not so long after the death of my boyfriend), it was very a real and intense experience for me.

[@0FynnFish0]

Just one little correction: Edward does not pull out the car stereo, Bella does after he's gone. Edward apparently forgot about it. And yes, I am reasonably embarrassed that I know this.

[@MelaniePoparad]

I was going to write this, almost word for word. Ashamed of my knowledge and all. Edwards even makes a comment later and fixes it so Emmett never finds out and can’t get his feeling hurt. (If i recall correctly) Thank you.

[@kraziiXIII]

No, I remember this part of the books quite clearly since this was one of the few things Bella had left from Edward and she was devastated when he took the radio when he left. It's one of the first things she notices is gone when the Cullens leave and she is really upset about it. Emmett installs the radio and Edward takes it and even talks about hiding it under one of Bella's floorboards in, I think, Eclipse. But if I am wrong, then I am wrong. Someone who has read the books more recently than like 10+ years ago feel free to correct me since I'm like 90% sure this is what happens.

[@0FynnFish0]

@@kraziiXIII I literally read it two weeks ago and I hate you for making me admit that.

[@auroramichael1110]

@@kraziiXIII I think you’re remembering the CD with her lullaby on it, cause Bella actually injured her hands removing the radio.

[@kraziiXIII]

@@0FynnFish0 oof, well it is a cultural touchstone, at least? However it is strange that both Dom and I remember reading it the same way. Maybe it's a Mandela Effect?

[@c-puff]

Sometimes I think, Dom, that your desire to give these movies a fair shake on the basis of trying to undo sexism, results in your actively doing your best to excuse some of its absolute horrendous and downright abhorrent writing and, ironically, treatment of its main female character who also happens to be one of the worst people in the story. Although I commend you for trying to look at these books through the lens of "I don't want to hate it just because it was written for teenaged girls", I feel you are getting to the point of "these books are so awful and horrible but I am so dedicated to not being a misogynist I am going to actively strive against acknowledging the fact that these books are, at the end of the day, awful stories with awful characters written with awful messages." Also just pointing out, once again, that although what you're saying about the appropriate of native American folklore is true, you're still leaving out the part on how the Quileute people have used the Twilight franchise to massive improve their living situation by banking on their role in the books which has enabled them to save their town from getting swallowed by seawater recently, and how their portrayal in the books continue to financially help them due to tourism. Again, nothing you said about appropriation is incorrect, but you're also leaving out a very important part in this whole situation which means you're coming across as white knighting.

[@Xehanort10]

You can blame the likes of Lindsay Ellis for him feeling like he has to defend it to avoid being called sexist. Ellis thinks all men are evil sexist pigs just because one man raped her even though blaming all men for one's actions makes no sense. She thinks men who hate Twilight are sexist while hypocritically believing all women have to like it just because it's aimed at them.

[@Hawkatana]

@@Xehanort10 Sure thing, kid.

[@persefoniajax]

I offer up this comment as a sacrifice to our algorithm overlords.

[@DragonFae16]

When I first clicked on this video, I was like 'wait, hasn't Dom done a Lost in Adaptation about this book already? Is this a rerun?' Then I checked the channel and release what he'd done before were more reviews of the books than comparing the books and movies. The suffering he puts himself through for our entertainment is unfathomable.

[@sarahnour5561]

I never liked the way this book/movie romanticized mental health issues and made it so the solution to Bella's depression was to either start a new relationship with Jacob or get back together with Edward. In Meyer's mind, Bella's behavior isn't self-destructive or unhealthy - it's WOMANTIC!! She throws herself off a cliff because TWU WUV!!!! Edward attempts suicide because TWU WUV!!! I know from experience that being that emotionally dependent on a significant other is not healthy. Nor is it fair to hoist all responsibility for one's mental/emotional well-being on one person. My depression only got better when my long-term relationship ended and I learned how to live for myself and not for my now-ex (though we're still good friends). Romanticizing depression is not okay, especially in media aimed at impressionable young girls. How many young Twihards have refused the professional help they needed because they see depression as symptomatic of love?

[@klauzJamfield]

This is having the weird effect of making me want to re-read this books

[@Alresu]

Wait... Jasper was supposed to magically make her feel welcome, when she first arrived in the Cullen house, didn't he? But she's immune to Vamp-Powers?

[@dbzcupcake]

Knowing Michael Sheen was both in this and good omens is hilarious

[@cygnahoshiko4629]

So...human Jacob has long hair, but werewolf Jacob and indeed all the werewolves have short? I'm...I don't know about the Quileute specifically, but many Native American groups have traditionally had long hair for men, and then white settlers would violently cut it in residential schools as part of the genocide. So...that was a choice, that was made.

[@chaoszonenate]

My only memory of this is situated on being in the 10th grade when it was in theaters. I was in book club, the librarian was obsessed with the series. I'm queer, and was still figuring that out. I found Twilight boring and we argued about it constantly. We saw New Moon as a class trip for book club-they had a replica of the truck Bella drives in the theater lobby that we all took a group photo in front of. My two friends who liked the series more than I did were more excited to see it..and I can recall the first ten-twenty minutes of the movie before we both fell asleep. That all being said, Dominic's videos on the series are far more enjoyable and certainly retain my focus more than it did once in theaters. (I can't claim my attention span is better at nearly 31 than it was as a teenager, but these are still much more enjoyable to watch).

[@NeroCM]

If I may: Edward isn't a serial killer waiting to happen. Edward is serial killer with at least dozens but possibly hundreds of victims under his belt. Granted, all of them (at least according to him) were rapists, murderers and other serial killers. But still.

[@KikiYushima]

I may have said this before, but I'll say it again. I was in high school and the target demographic for this book series. However, I become an anti-Twilighter post-Breaking Dawn. I hated this series so much I wanted to rewrite it. I wanted to incorporate more Quileute mythology and tried to do research. However, I came up relatively empty for anything. I didn't want to just use aspects from other native Pacific cultures which is mainly what I was finding. So what did I do? _I freaking stopped the rewrite._ As a 16-17 year old, _I knew better than to use a native tribe without doing proper research._ And this was for _fanfiction!_ I knew better than a woman 2-3 times my age at that point. I chalk it up to her Mormon upbringing. I've learned a lot about Mormonism over the past year or two due to listening to the Mormon Stories podcast. They have a lot of...very troubling views about Native Americans that come from the Book of Mormon.

[@jayecoates]

A bit harsh on Chris Weitz regarding Golden Compass, I think - studio interference meant that what we got was not his vision at all. He was very frustrated by it.

[@Shadow1Yaz]

Kristen's face when she makes *that* joke. She like, SO unimpressed with the line. I can SEE her judging the writers through her delivery.

[@veganmonter]

13:11 - Assuming an actual busload of tourists actually does become dinner, did the book ever explain away how an entire busload of people can go missing without an international media incident? Or is it explained away with David Icke logic?