TWINS?...Federal Non-Typical VS Power⚡Shok .308 Ballistic Gel AMMO Test & Review!

[@rogerwood5228]

308 just plain works in everything, and those cartridges looked great even for those two-legged deer that like to kick in your door at 2am.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Them 2-legged ones are sneaky.😆

[@JohnLee-jk5ew]

Yard pigs??

[@RimfireAddicted70]

I can't imagine the blood pattern at close range on a 2 legged critter being hit by that. With police asking asking you "Why did you feel the need to use .50 cal on it?" LOL

[@jrranch9712]

Bingo.

[@devanshvatsal4128]

Ah yes. Anti /x/ cryptid rounds.

[@frawdulent]

Congrats on 89k! Well deserved brother!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate that!😎👊

[@user-dt8xy7ig2d]

Yes sir toolz is one hard working sob got nothing but respect for the man

[@phillhuddleston9445]

Should be 100K, he will get there soon I imagine.

[@codyjack1090]

I bought a bunch of these before the pandemic when they were stupid cheap. I was going to use them just for plinking and for the brass. But it quickly became my hunting round, when I went to the range first time and got .5moa out of the power shoks. Can’t beat that.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, these were stacking up down there at 100.

[@codyjack1090]

Thanks for bringing us all these ammo tests. I surely enjoy them.

[@joeyphillips1181]

I like the gold dots in 308 & 223

[@devanshvatsal4128]

I was thinking that I havent seen a .308 ammo test in a while. Then this video dropped. Nice.

[@amoore2539]

'Disruption Area' - gives a new meaning to if you get hit by one of those. Never a good ending.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆

[@Swampytheroot]

I picked up a few cases of each at $12.50 a box pre 2020. They always work just as your tests show. I've used them in everything from a 12" FAL to a 24" Remington 700 Varmint. Nice presentation as always

[@johnparker9139]

Federal ammo (even the cheaper stuff) just works. Clean and blue sealer around the primer. Good stuff

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@Ryan-xq3kl]

Man .308 is a beautiful cartridge.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yes indeed 😎👊

[@MrLongshot762]

​@@ToolsandTargets Do you reload? Would you like to test out a crazy 308 varmint/defense load? I can send you the recipe or send you a box of them.

[@PassivePortfolios]

A dear friend who is now sadly deceased took hundreds of deer with Federal 150 grain 308 ammo. Always perfumed well from all ranges, 30-200 yards. Of course he had an accurate Remington 700 rifle and was a good marksman. He bought the Federal ammo after the hunting season when it was on sale.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Solid performers for sure.😎👊

[@johnpoole8321]

We want it to shoot good not smell good 😂

[@LogisticallyMisrepresented]

Don't want no stinky cartridges ​@@johnpoole8321 🦨

[@chriscripe7614]

❤Sweet perfume! 😮 You mean performance, right? ❤

[@Steve-ev6vx]

Federal is good ammo, but the Sierra game king boat tail soft points they loaded back about 30 years ago where garbage. Sometimes they would work great, other times they would blow up on the rib of 90 pound doe and not exit. This was the 165's in .308. Those bullets weren't made by federal though, just loaded by them. The noslers I got loaded by federal were excellent, so the loading job was fine. The Sierra game kings were just crap bullets.

[@ElainesDomain]

I'm just pushin the Algore Rhythm. Move along.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂 😎👊

[@MrTruckerf]

AlGore would be proud!

[@danichicago9140]

Best part is it's common and usually available

[@jeffingram9499]

Power Shok worked for a long time but a few years ago I switched to the fusion style bullet. Love to see the fusion load ran through the jelly contraption

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@Steve-ev6vx]

Are the fusions bonded? I have really good results on all of the bonded ammo I have used so far. Definitely haven't had any bullets completely fail like with some of the traditional cup and core styles.

[@jeffingram9499]

I’m not sure if they are the same as say a gold dot bullet. The technology may be a bit different with the fusion. I used to cut and etch welded steel to confirm adequate penetration. Out of curiosity I cut one of fusion bullets to see what was actually going on. There is actually 3 layers off copper jacket material fused together somehow this alone makes it a very strong If the core is chemically bonded to the jacket structure I would say it’s as good as any. If a white tail walks out really close they don’t seem to come unglued as bad as the older design cup n core. I hope that helped they work for me.

[@Steve-ev6vx]

@@jeffingram9499 thanks, sounds like a good design. 👍

[@davidjernigan8161]

The velocity difference is probably just two different lots of the same powder with the same charge weight.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@Steve-ev6vx]

Yeah, I thought my buddy was crazy for checking his zero when switching between lot numbers, but it can make a difference. I had one change almost 1 1/2 inches at 100 yards. That would make a big difference at 300-400 yards.

[@2wheeleddemon999]

I've always used the Winchester power points in 308. It's been good to me for years

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@Pingledore]

When in question, I check the catalog; it usually states barrel length. If that doesn't state, the manufacturer's ballistics calculator is my backup. Just trying to help a fellow Virginian out. Per the 2024 Federal Premium Ammunition Catalog, page 22, they state a 24" test barrel. Thanks for doing the practical testing, T&T. Your work is greatly appreciated!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Figured they used a long boy.😎👊

[@jamessummerlin6033]

@@ToolsandTargetsto be fair I use a 26” barrel 308 most of the time

[@cgsimons1187]

These are awesome! They managed to dump most to all of their energy within the first 18" and stop. Yeah, if these are insufficient, then good luck running from the Sasquatch.

[@clutchcargo1239]

They look alike, and their results in your gel are similar... I think they are the same. Gotta love some 308 in the jell testing!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@balancedfordaylight1]

Battle Rifle Jelly TIME !!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Solvin big problems.😎👊

[@Aaron_bby]

Power Shok is definitely one of the best budget options, very insightful test! 👌

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@YellowHammer26]

👍👍Thanks Tools, I don’t use the federal but I do hunt deer with the Remington and the Norma 150gr soft point. I’ve always had good results with a soft point hunting deer.

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🦌💥

[@ronaldbarnes8302]

Liking the rifle tests. The 308 definitely hits hard. Thanks for the jelly test Tools!

[@johnb7430]

Just dropped a big (160-170) pound buck with 350L 180gr at 2000fps from my rifle. He turned and dropped into his shadow. Exit was... impressive. Let's see some 350L !

[@jameshood9694]

That's what I have been using. Non Typical. I did buy some Browning BXS solid copper for big hogs later this year though. I can tell you that the Federal Fusion and the Speer Gold Dot are exactly the same bullet, but they load the Speer with a nickel plated case. The Fusion is a really good round too. It's hard to beat a Federal bullet in rifle or handgun though.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I think I might have those copper Brownings in another caliber.

[@joeyphillips1181]

168 grain Hornady A-max & 150 grain speer gold dots are my go to rounds in 308 but I'll probably pick those up too for the right price

[@jeremyabbott9909]

I'm searching! Cheapest one is going in my AR! Thank you as always, you are the hero we didn't know we needed!!

[@user-re3qq7pi7i]

Enjoy seeing hunting/rifle rounds on your channel, Tools!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that 😎👊

[@raw7s784]

i love how consistent your videos are. Intro to the ammo, velocity test, and ballistic gel test

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate that. I consider changing it up sometimes, but I figure it's best to just keep it all the same.

[@codyjack1090]

I’ve dropped deer with these out to 200 (I know, that’s not that far at all). But every time, they don’t go more than 10 feet. Most have dropped in their tracks.

[@ToolsandTargets]

200 is far if you ask me.😎👊

[@PassivePortfolios]

200 yards is a long shot where we hunt. The key is for the bullets to expand consistently even at that range or further, and these Federal bullets do it so well.

[@CrashRacknShoot]

​@@PassivePortfoliosthe more I see of Federal's HP offerings of any kind, the more I like them. I don't buy much factory ammo nowadays, but if I do, it is only Federal anymore. Their stuff just works so damn well.

[@codyjack1090]

@@PassivePortfoliosI just had to get that comment in about 200 yards before the keyboard warriors got me 🤣. Yeah, typically most shots around here are under 100. However that particular situation I was hunting power lines and had a lot of wide open field.

[@PassivePortfolios]

@@codyjack1090 these quality bullets work well at 200+ yards too. Most shots I have taken were under 100 yards as well. I have no doubt these bullets would perform at 300 yards, which is about as far as I would take a shot.

[@HOOSIERDADDY385]

Thanks for the testing. I like the .308,, my favorite.

[@markn.1473]

TnT working hard, loving the 308 data

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate ya!😎👊

[@andyrobinson2476]

5:43 Tools is the benchmark standard on ballistic performance testing, and second aint even within hearing distance.. 👍👊

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate ya, brother!😎👊

[@joeyphillips1181]

Been waiting for some good 308 tests 👍🏻 thanks mr tools 👏🏻 always on point & on time lol

[@georgiabowhunter]

There is a reason soft points have withstood the test of time. There aren't many bullet designs that are any more deadly.

[@johncoleman2495]

Great video as always! .308 will do anything I need to do with a rifle! It's been my number one all my shooting life! I'd love to see you do .350 legend! I think it's been completely glossed over as a defensive rifle chambering.

[@jamesrose1641]

Thank you for keeping up with the great contentA lot of other people on youtube aren't producing very many videos these days.I'm so happy that you're still here with us!

[@Nick-sz3wx]

The good ole three oh hate! Thanks for the videos T&T! Stay strapped brother

[@trusttheprocess7200]

No need to hate it's a 308

[@ToolsandTargets]

🔥😎👊🔥

[@andrews.7754]

Glad to see the 308 getting some love. Thanks Tools!

[@stevenkennedy4130]

I own both of those in 270 Win. Thanks for the share!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@jimevans3506]

I called Federal and she said both are pretty much the same, just packaging. Love that ammo. Great stuff.

[@johnmikel5934]

Yeah! That gel was a hot mess after those shots. Devistating, just ripped it to shreds inside that gel. It would be nice to see more .308, 30-06 tests. Thanks for the super video post man!

[@benjaminbradley3009]

Ive always had great results with Federal ammo. Those 2 are identical, just a different box.

[@powerbagle]

My guess is that they used a different powder or primer during the shortages, and didnt want sell it as powershock 🤷‍♂️

[@ToolsandTargets]

Very possible.

[@craigbenz4835]

It always worked well for me. I was a little surprised that the penetration wasn't a bit more.

[@GreyShooter]

They performed the same, for sure. Great 308 test, Tools. 💥💥💥

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@joemokrzycki2006]

Congrats on 89k Brother

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir!😎👊

[@geraldb4201]

glad to see the test because its what i ended up buying because remington core lock wasent around my wife and i both have like a dozen boxes of it for our deer guns didnt want to run out of it again

[@greenyoshi777]

I don't use the term 'gnarly' very often but those wound channels fit the bill. I'm thinking there are really a handful of things worse: .50 BMG .338 Lapua 8.6 Blackout --- REX rounds (made by Just Cause Solutions) 12 gauge slug. I know I missed a bunch of calibers but I think those are enough to get the point across 😎👍

[@ThorntonMeloni]

Need a 30 Carbine test this Holiday season! 🧑‍🎄

[@mikeautry2271]

I love federal Ammo....growing up its history...

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@frankbrowning328]

My wife and I used the Powershock for many years on dozens of deer and many times got penetration even deeper than that shown in this test on shots between 40-80 yards where most of our shots occur. The expansion shown here makes it look like they would make a very big hole in flesh and bone but that has not been the case in my experience. They make a hole about the size of a nickel going in and, on a broadside, shot with no bone hit, a 1'' - 1 1/2''hole coming out. When they hit bone they do far better and make a larger hole. It's a good deer load for sure. However, they don't beat the old standby being the Nosler Partition. The other load I like but have trouble finding many times is the Winchester Silvertip with the black coating on the bullets. This 150 gr load rips HUGE holes in deer but also penetrates an average deer even on a quartering shot at 50 yards. Exit holes are the size of a Cue ball with this load. It anchors deer really well.

[@jeffreybean5363]

Great Ammo test Tools on the 308. I myself prefer the 30-06 that's what I use during deer season here in Northern lower Michigan which is in the Cadillac Michigan area. 🇺🇸👊

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I gotta do some .30-06 tests.😎👊

[@147CombatMedic]

Massive energy and expansion. 😲 Gotta like the 308. It might not be the "in thing" or the "latest and greatest" but it gets the job done. I always like when you throw in a few rifle tests from time to time. It's a great reminder that the purpose of your pistol is to get you to your rifle. 😄 Great vid! 💥👍💥

[@yourmomma2995]

i deer hunt with the power shock, its what my rifle prefers. its good to know that they are the same.

[@SkippyTarbuckle]

Love that sound of .308 ringing steel.

[@rjw261984]

Pretty good results for the ol 308. 🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Ol faithful 😎👊

[@chrisgabbert658]

👍😊 been a 308 guy sense 2000.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Does its job.😎👊

[@chrisgabbert658]

@ especially when you have a box of ammunition in a magazine and treat it like a 10/22 😁.

[@lbmullinax9387]

One of them days lol...very good test Tools .

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂 Thank you sir.😎👊

[@RL-RL]

Great test, and great tool set-up! Seems we have "the same mindset" when it come to a .308. 🤔

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@MrZachxd]

Great video! That stuff doesn't mess around! That should easily take anything in North America with good shot placement.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@anarchyrun8253]

loving all these rifle tests!

[@ToolsandTargets]

I got months' worth of rifle ammo piled up for testing.😆

[@robertrasmussen8752]

I average used the Power Shocks, always good rounds for cheap.

[@ronaldgarvie9661]

Another great show tools like allways

[@Snailz5]

308 just gets the job done. Cheap to run factory ammo, cheap to reload, just about every rifle you could want is chambered in it. It’s not a laser, it can’t take advantage of insanely high bc bullets, and it is just plain vanilla. But many guys buy the latest and greatest for a fantasy hunt they can’t afford or because they want to shoot to 600 when they hunt woods you can’t see a deer past 150 or they want a 1000 yard rifle when their lifetime round count is under 250 shots. Let the suckers let the marketeers drain their wallets while those in the know keep getting the job done without needing a new rifle every other year to keep up with the trends.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Amen!😎👊

[@Oldman650]

To me, the Non-Typical and the Fusion bullets look alike.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Fusions are bonded. I think I have those too. I got a bunch of .308 I need to test.😆

[@mattpellatiro1333]

@@ToolsandTargets yes please test fusions!! I was planning on using these for deer out of a ar10

[@buzsalmon]

I love this test Tools. I can't find any range/target 308 ammo any ideas? All I see is high dollar hunting. Thanks!

[@CrashRacknShoot]

​@@mattpellatiro1333not to take away from our good friend Tools here, but if you want even more rifle gel tests, Mason Leather has a TON of .308 and every other type of rifle round you can think of. I'm pretty sure he even has multiple tests of Fed fusion not only in .308, but in multiple grain weights as well.

[@edeldridge36]

@@CrashRacknShoot I was going to mention Mason Leather too. I don't miss any of Tools n Targets or Mason Leather videos. While Tools does mostly handgun ammo with some rifle cartridges, Mason Leather does all hunting ammo. 🎯🎯

[@Stu650Zuk]

Great performing ammo that really punches above its price point. The Speer Hot Cor bullets have great weight retention on game and expansion as you've seen in your test. They do a great job of transferring all the energy on target and dropping game really fast. I believe the way they make these with the pouring of hot lead into jackets instead of swaged into jackets as other cup and core bullets does make a difference in how they retain weight more similar to a bonded bullet..just my opinion. I am trying Fusions for the first time however this season. Only for one reason however. I have a couple new stands with the possibility of longer range shots and they have a higher BC than the Powershok bullets and retain 2-300 more ft lbs of energy past 300yds..in case a good shot presents itself in that 3-400yd range available to me..Weather conditions dictate on taking long shots for me regardless unless its on paper at those ranges and knowing your drops and a lot of practice ahead of time,,which we do. My good old 7 Rem Mag is still in the gun safe however if I want to use it sighted in with the much more expensive Terminal Ascents in case I drew an elk tag this year in my State. But I've found it comes down to knowing your gun and caliber and shot placement in a proven deer cartridge means more than being a Magnum for deer hunting..I like both, just .308 is much cheaper to practice with so for me its my favorite too. Thanks for the upload.

[@petee454]

Great test! I am a 308 fan. Match M1A or my Sig 716 piston rifle, love it. Use 175gr HPBT hand loads in both. These look excellent for some experimentation at my end. I am a heavy bullet guy, 75/77gr 556, 175gr 308, 190 3006, 156gr 6.5 PRC, etc. Time to give these lighter ones a try. Thank you!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I have quite a few heavy 5.56/.223 rounds I gotta get done.

[@Chemical_Recon_M93A1]

Dude you're going to need a lot of jelly ! Maybe 300 Win Mag someday ? .

[@ToolsandTargets]

I came dangerously close to picking up a Ruger Precision in .300 Win Mag that my local shop had. Mainly because it looks like a mini .50 BMG.😂

[@ctsnider88]

Yup, Still my favorite.

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥😎👊💥

[@charlesmullins3238]

I’ve got the 130gr flyin ashtray hp’s that run right at 3k from my 16” dd..but. Take 40gr an add 1k fps and you’ll be at my 110gr v max from 24” fn spr and by this test of 150s@2800ish I’d say the gel wouldn’t take but 1 and would be dirty and tore up bad. Noslers tips a little bigger is all I can tell on my 110s I love. Imr4198 38-42gr depending on how mean you want em. Have some 125gr ballistic tip noslers also that shot 1 hole and I’d have to look but thunk round 3100ish. They’d do a # on gel I’d say also. 150s would not group in that 1:12 fn..

[@charlesmullins3238]

700fps difference not 1k…still 3500fps .308 is wicked

[@michaelschneider8477]

what is the name of the 130gr ammo?

[@charlesmullins3238]

@@michaelschneider8477 federal varmit…I think it’s discontinued though..I’ve had those 4yrs and havnt seen any since..got my d50 loaded with em

[@juanthelawnmowerthief1641]

Great test as usual thanks for the info! Would be willing to be these are the same loads Federal uses in the Fusion and Gold Dot loadings too. Would be interesting to see you do a comparison between Winchester Deer Season XP in 308 & 6.5 creed as one has worked well and I’ve had deer run off with the other.

[@luongxuanduy1001]

Would love to see some 308 vs 6.5 @ 100 yard.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Creedmoor? And what kind of ammo?

[@daviddurbin9802]

Thanks for doing the test sir! I originally bought the non-typical rounds for the range because I got them so cheap. I’ve rethought that now based your test and will keep it the zombies 🧟‍♂️ and big game like squirrel 🐿️. Thanks again sir and stay safe, stay prepared!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate you sending them, my friend! I kept forgetting to say thanks in my replies.😂

[@daviddurbin9802]

@@ToolsandTargetsno worries sir - testing it for me is thanks enough! I’ll be running them out of 16” barrel with vortex adjustable scope. Maybe the wife will get me a thermal scope for Yule.

[@jbflyinglow]

What a really good video you launched this one out of the park. and that energy transfer damn

[@ToolsandTargets]

Big power.😎👊

[@bruceallen6016]

I like .308 and like to shoot Federal ammo, mostly 168 grn Supreme though. I do like the 150 grn stuff and might try these depending on availability. BTW, those two rounds do appear to be the same. Anyway, thanks for this video. 👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@hoosierplowboy5299]

Good test, Tools....308 is a boss!!!😊

[@yuvgotubekidding]

Those hit like a sledge hammer. May have to hold down the jelly with a ratchet strap if you test any more .308 😁👍😎🇺🇸👊

[@ToolsandTargets]

That last one sent em flying bigtime.😂

[@theopencarryguy5.0]

Always look forward to watching working Tools. 🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲

[@steverussell6642]

I bet you do😂

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@ElijahSharp-c8r]

also a hornady critical defense vs speer gold dot 150 gr both 308 would be great and greatly appreciated

[@sokyoutdoors588]

I just reload my own with Hornady 150 grain soft point bullets for 65-85 cents per round, one of the few calibers left that you can save a little by rolling your own.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@mikewashington-se6qw]

Thanks Tools! I've got both in my cans & was wondering what was the difference. 308 is my favorite do-all too. Whats not to like?!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Good stuff 😎👊

[@pauliverson6621]

Nice stuff! Would love to see some Norma comparisons, especially Ecostrike versus Oryx or Whitetail. I have had incredible performance from the 150 Ecostrike on the last five one shot kills on Whitetails

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@AllThingsLoud_]

Thank you. I was just saying I think that these are the same because we were looking for 150 non typical but could only find the power shok

[@ToolsandTargets]

Good lookin stuff.😎👊

[@michaelbarfield528]

Great Review!!!! Venison anyone.......

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🦌💥

[@jeffreyrobertson7652]

Another good ammo test Tools I have been in the hospital them went to the nurse in home woke up one morning and could not move my legs they said I had guillain - Barre I have home health care coming in I’m up to walking with a walker just wanted to tell you why I haven’t been on for a while still watch all your videos just don’t comment my Arthritis in my hands has been pretty bad lately Stay Safe Tools your friend Jeff

[@ToolsandTargets]

I hate to hear all of that, brother. That's pretty scary stuff. I appreciate you for all you do!😎👊

[@jeffreyrobertson7652]

@ Thank you Tools

[@billdye3530]

Pretty good stuff & sure slammed that gel hard. Looks similar to same projectile from Hornady American Whitetail. After seeing it hit makes you wonder why armed forces are using 5.56 instead of 308 soft point. I know 5.56 is lighter etc. but 308 does more damage by a long shot. Same projectile like you say with slight difference in powder. Keep picking up those subscribers & quit the day job. 👍🙏🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Serious thump for sure. 😎👊

[@billdye3530]

​@@ToolsandTargetsThere is a reason other countries are using a 7.62 round that makes a 15mm hole going out instead of a 6mm - if it doesn't tumble but expands - going out. Leakage Matters. 🙊

[@thePrussian]

I’ve got some Hornady Match 168g I need to test out. Probably do that next month. Want to see what my rifle likes best.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I have a bunch of it in a few different rifle calibers.

[@lordofthechickens1374]

If you haven't, can you do a 30-30 hollow point vs a soft point?

[@ToolsandTargets]

I definitely gotta do some .30-30. I have tons of it.

[@timhelton624]

There both loaded with speer hotcore

[@l.a.3887]

Great stuff as always

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@geraldblackburn4883]

I am a .3xx type but if you had to choose an overall, ONE Gun rifle, what would you choose, I like the .308 and the 30-06.

[@dyouden]

Federal power shok 140 6.5 creedmoor and 140 fusion appear to be the same too but the fusion is more expensive

[@politicalmechanic9501]

Can you compare to AAC soft point

[@ElijahSharp-c8r]

can we plz get a underwood 60 gr 223 ballistic tip has a red tip vs controlled khaos open tip vid nobody ever does these rounds both are considered defensive and expanding rounds

[@viktorphotoz8452]

Just got a doe & buck this season with Hornady Superpreformance 168gr ELD Match. I used my AR10 as well. Wondering if you could do a test with the Hornady 168gr. They made 2 different versions at the same grain one they call Black & the other is Superpreformace! I have both but don’t know if there’s any difference.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I think I do have those.😎👍

[@brianklamer3328]

They are the same round, I called federal a couple years ago and customer service admitted it to me, a marketing spin to sell an existing but proven product. Info online and on boxes was identical between the two.

[@reefread1234]

I mean he's good at it hey do some 6.5 creedmoor uppers or some 6.5 grendo uppers even

[@oubliette862]

the last time I shot gel with a 308 soft tip it pretty much disintegrated into bits of copper and lead dust. I don't shoot my gel anymore with rounds that disintegrate, burn or explode because it ruins the gel too fast.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Just finished cleaning this batch earlier. I usually just cut out the bad sections from stuff like this and toss it.

[@wendellburks6546]

I’m interested in seeing Tulammo in .308 caliber tested against other manufacturers.

[@charlesmorgan1879]

Nice ! If 1 doesn't stop it double tap it ! Dont remember all brands but do have fusion bthp & think i have nontypical, among others.

[@ToolsandTargets]

.308 don't play!😎👊