Two WarCraft 2 WORLD CHAMPIONS Break Down Their Play

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@w2babyshark 11 ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed one of my old vids, enjoyed your enthusiasm on your stream about rediscovering Warcraft 2 after many years. Bunch of us still play regularly and love it.

@MaxxIntEnt 11 ай бұрын

War2USA bringing it to NA time zone. Good community! Love this game. Ty Shark and all involved to keep this wonderful game going. Keep sharing all you content creators. 😁

@joshuanorthey2026 11 ай бұрын

I loved it on the dialup in middle school.

@MaxxIntEnt 11 ай бұрын

@@joshuanorthey2026 those were some good old days with the 14.4k modem. Then I got a 56k wowzers. 😂

@summernatsmate 11 ай бұрын

The sequence between 1:10 and 3:00 is why I love War2 so much - there's nothing like this in any RTS I'm aware of. I'll give a brief rundown of what happens because it's pretty confusing if you haven't played much: 1:10 Black tries to run his peon between orange's gold mine and town hall, either to block it with a barracks or build a tower behind it 1:11 Orange realises what's happening and puts his peasant 1 square above the town hall. This forces the peon to change its pathing and go above the farm 1:13 After the peon changes its pathing, orange then moves his peasant 1 square so that it blocks the peon from entering from above. This forces the peon to change its pathing again, and it tries to go below the farm and above the hall 1:15 Orange moves his peasant back to its original position, again blocking the black peon from getting in. Black realises he won't get in, so he starts attacking orange's peasant. 1:18 Because black got the first hit, orange knows he'll lose the battle. So he builds a wall - a single unit building. This messes with the peon's AI and causes it to stop attacking. Orange then cancels the wall, getting most of his resources back. 1:24 Black builds two buildings. I'm not sure why this is, presumably to protect his peons as they can't be attacked while building, but it also blocks orange from walking above his town hall - orange now needs to walk around below, which is slower 1:28 Black sees orange walking around below his town hall, meaning that the path to the gold mine is now free. He cancels his building and runs to build a tower below orange's gold mine. Note that in Warcraft 2, after completing a building, peons exit one square to the left of the top left square of the building (unless it's blocked). So in this case, his peon is guaranteed to exit behind the gold mine, where orange's peasants can't get to him. 1:47 Black's tower finishes and he upgrades it to a guard tower. Now he can repair it while orange tries to destroy it. One peon will outrepair 2 peasants' damage, so orange will not be able to kill the tower this way, and soon it will be shooting down all his workers. Orange needs to do something else. 1:56 Orange tells a peasant to mine gold, and as soon as it enters the mine, he builds a building in front of the mine. This blocks the usual place where the peasant would exit with his gold. Because of how War2 solves for an exit position, the peasant will exit behind the mine - which will allow him to attack black's peon which is repairing the tower. 1:57 Black knows what orange is doing, so he builds a farm behind the gold mine. This blocks where orange was hoping to "hop" his peon to. Orange's peon exits in the usual position, near the town hall. 2:04 Orange sends another peasant into the gold mine. You can see at 2:08 he has moved the peasant that was repairing the tower up one square - this is to block the normal exit. This time black isn't able to block the exit, and orange's peasant exits behind the gold mine. 2:10 Black knows that orange will be able to kill his peon, so he tries to avoid it by building a wall (similar to what orange did at 1:18) 2:12 Black sees an opening and builds a barracks to block orange's gold flow 2:15 Orange manages to kill black's peon - now black is unable to repair the tower, and it can be easily killed From this point it becomes a more standard game, but any small mistake in the first couple of minutes can lead to a very quick gg.

@alexparsons3295 11 ай бұрын

This is actually a common feature of almost all competitive RTSs and is called body blocking. It is still very sweet every time and great to watch executed so well.

@jpthefisherman 11 ай бұрын

Age of Empries 2

@Lurthemir 11 ай бұрын

Quickwalling in Age of Empires 2 has a similar vibe.

@kerviuskuroshiba5120 11 ай бұрын

Very subtle yet mind blowing nuances from an old game that makes me appreciate the skills of players of WC2 and Brood war. They showcase, imo, more entertaining games compared to modern versions of the genre for some reason 😅 TY For your interpretation of the pregame! REALLY learned a lot as well as being entertained 😃

@WickedServantEbay 11 ай бұрын

a lot going on there thanks for the details fam

@keizan5132 11 ай бұрын

Keep the War2 videos coming, it's so exciting to see it on a channel like yours! War2 deserves so much praise!

@drewwalbeck6006 11 ай бұрын

"This game was 5 or 6 years ago, if I were playing now..." Tasteless: "so they're playing this right now?"

@LunchableSandwich 11 ай бұрын

I love seeing this. Brings back the nostalgia but also showcases high level of competition that I wish I knew existed.

@dannyldd 11 ай бұрын

Cool to see Babyshark on this broadcast. I've been part of her tournaments in the current alive warcraft 2 little community. I'm a little war2 modder, owner of the very only channel that keeps updating & bringing up new mods for Warcraft 2 (mostly single player) in 2023. Please feel free to visit the little channel if interested to see new content being added up for this classic of 90s. Of course my mods are public & free to play. Edit: Ed gorod is also the very only modder out there with a KZbin channel that makes new generation mods for Warcraft 2 as well. Thanks to him its now possible since 2020 to make new generation mods with a lot more of content. Just search for Ed gorod to find his channel.

@OpiatesAndTits 11 ай бұрын

Curious question he keeps using grunt and peon instead of the human faction name. Is that because most people play orcs? Or are the two factions fairly matched?

@dannyldd 11 ай бұрын

@@OpiatesAndTits Humans are terribly weak in warcraft 2 multiplayer. The reason few times players pick Humans is because they either pick Random in lobby OR... try to win games prior to Bloodlust research by Orc players. This was accomplished this time by the footmen + ballistas rush and so then Knights, while Orc player still was on Stronghold tech.

@MrMacMan23 11 ай бұрын

How do you like Chronicles of the Second War

@dannyldd 11 ай бұрын

@@MrMacMan23 do you question if i like that mod for warcraft 3 ? its not even released yet.

@greenwave819 11 ай бұрын

Blizz needs to patch War2 and make Humans better!

@bobbaxter57 11 ай бұрын

Cool to see those same concepts of worker production, worker cuts for timing attacks, all-ins, etc. that can be found in Starcraft too!

@yyyy-uv3po 11 ай бұрын

It's fascinating to see how WC2 looks like a prototype of SC1, with all the fundamentals of the game already in place. Also the jump in quality and complexity from WC2 to SC1 in just 3 years is mind boggling.

@BiberandDolik 11 ай бұрын

Tassels and Wc2 is just an amazing combo

@jond2697 11 ай бұрын

Keep the WarCraft 2 games comin'!

@montanac223344 11 ай бұрын

I like the WC2 content. Never occurred to me that this type of content existed. Very nostalgic and surprisingly entertaining even now

@sophiacristina 11 ай бұрын

There is a channel called Warcraft 2, yes, the name of the game, and he streams online matches numerous times.

@rollthepoint4971 11 ай бұрын

So much nostalgia. Don't think I'll ever play it again, unless by some miracle it gets a good remaster; but it's definitely fun to watch.

@gregtuff4020 11 ай бұрын

I like this type of content. It's hard to find good WC2 stuff so if you can find the good shit I'm sure people will watch

@BryanColterAstrology 11 ай бұрын

war2 had a thriving competitive scene even before starcraft was released

@ajsajs7451 11 ай бұрын

Always fun to watch some warcraft 2 commentary

@MrPhilosovich 11 ай бұрын

that’s so wild, can’t believe this has been a thing this whole time

@myracle001 11 ай бұрын

YES KEEP IT COMIN! Authentically enjoying the WC2 content! You popped up in my news feed and I saw WC2 and clicked. Love it!

@joakimstrom5636 11 ай бұрын

keep em coming warcraft 2 is so epic!

@greenwave819 11 ай бұрын

funny how I got into SC... I hated SC when I played the demo. but I bought the blizz game of the year 3 pack that had WC2, Diablo and SC... played a bit of WC2 then, played Diablo the most, and then I got hooked on SC... still this WC2 really reminds of being like 15 and I abrely knew anything about RTS!!

@sleeper1855 11 ай бұрын

I think the guy who's talking more just refers to the Alliance units by their Horde names since Horde is generally the more played race (since Ogre Mages > Paladins)

@mahastep 11 ай бұрын

These are two great players right there. It’s probably been 10 years since I played a lot. You should talk to [TD]Viruz who is in this replay and point you in the direction of some of the best current players. The games where the best players both go heavy macro is pretty entertaining. GoW is the go to standard map, but there’s many other choices to play as well.

@thestarlightsymphonyseries 11 ай бұрын

Please keep casting WC2 stuff. Someone commented for a Tastetosis WC2 cast and I am here for that.

@pyrothem 11 ай бұрын

Very cool, old school.

@rocket_hops 11 ай бұрын

wc2 isnt a game i enjoy playing, but i love(d) it so much and im glad someones giving a little spotlight to the community

@CashMoneyMoore 11 ай бұрын

really cool to see wc2 on this channel. You might like littlewargame as well tasteless, there's some high level play on that browser based rts

@graham12341000 11 ай бұрын

You have to cast one of these games

@AlixRocheleau 11 ай бұрын

Tasteless warcraft 2, sick combination

@Circumnavigate 11 ай бұрын

WC2 content is the best, let's go back to the 90's

@delayedgratification581 11 ай бұрын

Just bought Warcraft 2 for $8 last week 🥰

@Niko-uk2yb 11 ай бұрын

Join trogallart on twitch for weekend games, you can play or watch, Trog is very friendly to beginners and explains a lot of mechanics behind war2, it is truly fascinating

@breakbeatz309 11 ай бұрын

GoW is the greatest RTS map ever created, and it was purely due to luck. People who have played WC2 at a very high level understand.

@MrMacMan23 11 ай бұрын

Lots more content to mine here, boot it up, get some people to play, interview one of these top players

@nikolaipenev8349 11 ай бұрын

Love the war2 content, please mix that in with your regular content!

@kirksaintpatrick3921 10 ай бұрын

Tasteless, if you can find more of this I'd love to see it on your channel!

@mixitra8320 11 ай бұрын

I thought Serral had a strong Finnish accent but this guy takes it one step further.

@anonymousAJ 11 ай бұрын

I believe Orcs and Humans are nearly identical, and Orcs generally considered a bit stronger due to Bloodlust So if you always play Orcs you just call the workers "peons" and the starter soldier unit "grunt" which are the Orc names

@Igbarash 11 ай бұрын

I love this, this is awesome fabutaste

@ericschaab5135 11 ай бұрын

The difference between a casual player and guys like tdviruz is abysmal! They don't even waste time playing against casuals! He is a very cool dude, I had the luck to observe him play. The guy chats with you while destroying the others 😂

@anonymousAJ 11 ай бұрын

I'd love to see you check out some other classic RTS that people still play, like AoE2

@caiofiuzaseixas9027 11 ай бұрын

Are you gonna play some? 👀

@sparky573 11 ай бұрын

I am really enjoying your wc2 content.

@joaopadua7134 9 ай бұрын

Its funny how similar warcraft 2 and starcraft 1 are in every single aspect

@Bruhhhhh868 11 ай бұрын

Amazing video as always now im going to go play warcraft 2 beyond the dark portal 😁😁😁

@estebancantero4751 11 ай бұрын

More WC2 please!!

@greenwave819 11 ай бұрын

Homie who did the math doesn't think his workers will ever die... lol

@patrickdement1474 11 ай бұрын

I dig it.

@BuildSC 11 ай бұрын

I had zero idea this existed. Very interesting! Thinking about getting Wc2 installed now lol. Is there rated matchmaking??

@Healcannon 11 ай бұрын

Oh man i'd totally watch wc2 stuff if it had commentary. I really only knew channels that didn't have any voice. edit: Sadly it doesn't seem like Babyshark commentates in her other videos, at least for the vods I clicked on to check.

@ericschaab5135 11 ай бұрын

Trogallart is great! He coments on games from time to time. I watch hours of Warcraft 2 games per day! 😂

@Healcannon 11 ай бұрын

@@ericschaab5135 Oooh ty. I'll check it out.

@Niko-uk2yb 11 ай бұрын

@@Healcannon www.twitch.tv/trogallart

@kane_lives 11 ай бұрын

Moar WC2 content, k thx

@MoneyandLifeTV 11 ай бұрын

Warcraft 2 I actually like more than StarCraft but StarCraft plays so much better

@Olagfigh 11 ай бұрын

War2 again! Awesome :D

@tiagozortea 11 ай бұрын

Is there any professional scene for SC1 before the BW expansion? Back in high school I would compete in championships of that game and I remember BW changed it completely.