TYLER1 REACTS TO SODAPOPPIN'S REVIEW OF LEAGUE OF LEGENDS

/ loltyler1
streamed 14th May 2024

[@Halfdeadperson]

he agrees as he clicks accept on match found

[@SaltyDerps]

The addiction is real, same for me with wild rift

[@anonymouspenguin2405]

man has a job, whether or not he likes it, he has bills to pay

[@SaltyDerps]

@@anonymouspenguin2405 most League players arent streamers 💀

[@Deede1245]

@@SaltyDerps ya no shit he talking about t1 ..

[@tegridyfarms6197]

@@Deede1245 ya no shit dosen't make this shity pice of chinese spyware any more fun to play...

[@ricardomilos10]

Im surprised league of legends gets even new players when the average new player experience is getting dunked by 9 smurf players and they flaming and reporting you for being "bad" at the game

[@jacobjeleniewski8694]

Yea im surpised i managed to break through to actually understanding and learning you have to be really resilient

[@zwlsx]

i started playing and knew about the games reputation so i just acted oblivious and tried out whatever champ i liked the look of until i finally got the hang of lane

[@blerp6675]

I tried to play league once 5 years ago because my friend was some crazy rank and I always did WoW arena with him so I thought it could be fun.. game 1 I roll gangplank (idk funny pirate man) I have no idea what items and game ramping are, I have no idea what tower/minion mechanics are. I'm in a match with dudes in gold who are telling me to kill myself, "ok that was toxic and yeah I suck for sure, I literally have never played the game" let's try another. Gangplank again because I figure it's better to learn the fundamentals on one champion than it is to try 40 characters. Get sent an Amazon affiliate link for a helium tank and a breathing mask to kms 😅

[@noyelumhalim6630]

I played with bot till level 55, it was so terrifying and ppl were so mean, i didnt wanna play with ppl at all. Im 650+ now and dont really care but i dont want to introduce any of my friends to the game lol

[@rrenpaii]

Pretty sure many league players are just waiting for another game to be released that establishes itself as an esports title that has everyone start from 0 to make a switch. At least I am, as a former league players. No way I am going back to league, but I'd give any alternative a chance and see if they can do a better job than league at toxicity and game ruining players while keeping fun and engaging gameplay. Personally, I'd love a game similar to WoW Solo Shuffle with voice chat and equal playing field (make gear irrelevant so you can hop on and play whenever).

[@jonbeingjon]

The smurf problem is very real in low rating

[@jakemorrow6742]

I swear some of my quick play games have more balanced match making than ranked

[@fozgoth]

My girlfriend tried to get into the game for two months and genuinely, on my mother's grave, there were at least 3 smurfs per match. For two months straight. She eventually quit because just getting stomped or carried by smurfs every single match is horribly unfun

[@sprintstothebathroomdaily2429]

I got back into the game a little while ago Played quick play and I swear there's no mmr used One game I got a grandmaster lane opponent I'm like silver next game it's all Iron opponents that are basically bot

[@swedishbird6945]

Quitting league was the best decision I ever made

[@ScogginsWB]

People are too sensitive these days. If someone is being annoying just mute them or ignore them and move on lol

[@kurosu-samaklipleri7090]

I am happy for you bro

[@christianmayonove6914]

Something not talked about enough really is how they change things up so substantially between seasons. Like when i played, I was a jungler. Jungle was changed substantially every single year. Items, fully reworked maybe 6 times now? in addition to the 6-10 new champions we used to get per season, and now any champion can really just be played in any lane/role now so thats 170 matchups you need to learn. Mort has said that for TFT, there are core elements that they say "hey, we cant be changing this bc it would suck for new players" - such as items, the items and their recipes are generally the exact same each season which makes learning a new set a lot more bearable.

[@BalkanManic]

Jungle is the only role that gets changed. If you were an lnbred riven main in season 5 everything is the same if you came back now

[@lighting7508]

this game only became truly fun to me after my 3rd year XDDD I started playing in 2019 and I was literally bronze last year october. Only then after all that time did things start to click! I peaked plat 2 last split and after placements I'm plat 4 again. its actually ridiculous how much time it takes to understand basic concepts and integrate them into your gameplay.

[@hata6290]

Are you really this stupid? Platinum is quite literally above average. To even consider learning the basics to be plat level is just cringe. PIease shut up

[@Caseyy_89]

yep, league kinda shit

[@Bodwaizer]

Thanks to Rito for making it really easy to uninstall with Vanguard

[@dziosdzynes7663]

@@Bodwaizer gigachad take

[@jamesodonnell4771]

I had to uninstall.. never again..

[@zaguitoblackbeard]

i think league is good but has a gigantic learning curve and its difficult to master, it doesn't help at all that the devs are constantly sabotaging and the playerbase is so deranged

[@TheBrandedSwordsman22]

This

[@Vexatiouss]

Yeah, I kind of agree with that, but I don’t care how competitive your game is if one mistake can make you lose the match and matches are an hour long. That’s ridiculous.

[@AMaleDaG]

They are not an hour long tho. 30 minutes@@Vexatiouss

[@mortysmindblowers6438]

@@Vexatiouss This is only the case once your past 30 mins in and no one can win ^^^^, so first team to dies, loses. First team to get caught, loses. Understanding this as well, is how you can go 4/9, and win the game for your team.

[@vividly94]

@@mortysmindblowers6438 Yeah, only at low elo lmfao When people know how to play the game correctly at like around high masters, being 4/9 is a game losing mistake no matter what you do lol

[@austinblair7901]

Just had my first baby, stopped playing league and now playing games like BG3. Wish I would’ve switched long ago!

[@abigsweetman]

Man I’ve been playing for over 8 years. My mmr is high plat but my actual rank is high iron. I don’t play ranked games. but if I did, a new player wouldn’t even have a chance.

[@AlexoftheLight]

It's so true I made a new account pre 30 and it's basically no new players. Whoever has the most smurfs on your team wins I remember playing in season 3 and everyone was new no joke. Noone knew how to play thr game

[@Sdfkiller]

Hey zillean build all the boots they stack.

[@ChunkyMilk360]

So ur part of the problem

[@maccheese8351]

i started to play league 2 years ago and people were saying slurs and telling me to kms for not knowing everything in normals

[@omensoffate]

Oh no words 😂

[@asuraXTC]

Oh you poor soul want your complementary cookie and warm moo moo?

[@Twitxhy]

@@asuraXTCthis is why no one likes you

[@mojitosuave]

@@asuraXTC ty for being the loser who backs up their claim lmao, find something important in life to be proud of

[@galaxypanda1288]

Best advice I can give is just mute chat and try different characters. The best way to understand how a champion works is to play them. This is coming from someone who’s unfortunately played this game for 11 years.

[@colinobrien9168]

It's interesting because every point he made about there being no new players because there is an expectation to have 15+ years of knowledge and developed understanding of the game can also be applied to the new player to WoW experience.

[@robertrubas2634]

I don't think so, yeah wow is difficult but there are so many difficulties to choose (LFR, myth0) especially now where myth+ is mega easy even high keys. I often have friends come to try the game, and they are more off-put by the general gameplay or lack of casual things, but difficulties are more than enough, making one eventually finds his spot where he can chill. I agree however that the game is complex to understand at first, with so many expansions and stuff, but once one tries the current expansion for a bit, he gets how they all work. This is not the case in LoL. In Lol if you make mistakes you are fucked, and the punishment for making them is 100times worse. If you go top the opponent can problably knowledge-check you in a million ways, and you can nothing but feed if you don't know what to do in that situation. If you are bronze and you found your spot in bronze, there you don't chill, you get bullied still, more often than not you never find a confortably spot, because the game is never comfortable. It pushes you and requires you to gain more knowledge without stop. Hell is have to look up a guide every time i play a new character, i never do that in wow, especially at low difficulties no one tells you anything if your dps is low, because they can carry by themselves.

[@AlexanderMartinez-kd7cz]

​​@@robertrubas2634eh people hype up the knowledge checks in league but below gold players literally can't read. if you read your class' items tab and your 3 champion's tooltips you'll get gold.

[@REVOMusicSounds]

No.

[@hugus800]

The worst is people think they are good at low elo.

[@chezwickcheese139]

"game is terrible" queues up again lol

[@fumeking701]

I blame RAV for Soda's new addiction rofl

[@Yagasith]

of coures it has lot to take in to understand because its moba, cmon all of you have been there no matter the game what you played DOTA2, LEAGUE, HON, anything cause this genre of game has a lot aspect and things that makes different genre from another like shooting game only just shoot, fighting game justt pressing the button and do inputs.

[@Rockyrodentt]

He listen to anberlin… subbed!

[@brandonwilson4740]

I started playing it a couple years ago. Played for about 2 weeks and then quit. New player experience is abysmal. The game itself is fun but felt that i had no impact whatsoever. Either got carried or steamrolled. Had no idea what I was doing.

[@DionWasHere]

I’ve played league for like 12 years (with some breaks) and never had a problem with it. Just don’t take it so serious, don’t give a fuck about your rank, smoke some weed, chill out and enjoy it 👍🏻

[@captaindystopia]

reported

[@filipe5585]

Get a job dude

[@DionWasHere]

@@filipe5585 I have my own business, so no thanks

[@darkin1484]

League new player experiences is consistently playing vs several smurfs who are either leveling a throwaway acc or ppl doing their ranked restriction punishment games. I know cuz im playing mine rn and poor guys are just meat for slaughter. Why pit the poor new level 20 guy vs someone who played 10 years....

[@TH-dg2mm]

The craziest part is watching these new streamer's like Forsen be CONVINCED they are 100% right and know what they're talking about. There is something about league that brings out people's EGO. Like day 1 of League someone is like "I'm terrible." Day 7 they're like "I should be challenger my teammates suck."

[@hata6290]

Anecdotal

[@TH-dg2mm]

@@hata6290 I don't think you know hat that word means.

[@hata6290]

@@TH-dg2mm I think a corndog left in the sun has a higher iq than you

[@hata6290]

@@TH-dg2mmbro fuck KZbin I’m done

[@TH-dg2mm]

@@hata6290 Anecdotal

[@ShenobiYT]

I can't imagine being a professional league of legends player...every 2 weeks, sh*t changes.

[@user-yf7mw7ok9l]

As someone who just started playing for the first time a month ago, this all checks out. Still like the game tho.

[@WhenYouGoMadd]

Trying to climb Rank in an ELO based system IN A TEAM GAME as a solo player is fucking insanity. All you have to do to climb is pick the role with the most early game power and snowball/carry the game.

[@taffydog3038]

i remember learning to play league and my friends told me to pick a champion in the support tab that was free to play. i picked Nami and then the next day the rotation changed. i was floored that i had to start playing a different champ lmao keep in mind the only games i had played that were pvp before this were minecraft, dark souls, and CSGO. so EVERYTHING was a huge learning curve

[@monkeybomb1232]

No this is a good thing. Playing the same champ over and over when you start fucks you up.

[@lanatsif]

Just save for a few games and buy Nami with the blue essence you got? Like what

[@ondrejs2]

Last year I reinstalled the game with a fresh account after like 8 years of not playing. Wanted to just play ARAMs, cause I'm a filthy casual gamer dad now. To play aram you need to level your account to lvl 3. I actually uninstalled before getting there. The game is so incredibly HOSTILE to new players it's not even funny. Every single game there is at least 1 loser who loves to just stomp noobs and goes 20/0. For every off meta item you buy, every mistake you make you are flamed, or people just leave the game or they just report you so you end up banned. The game is insufferable.

[@hata6290]

How can you be a father while still being a child yourself 😂 yikes bro

[@lanatsif]

Why make a new account if you've already played? You could have gone straight to aram by keeping your former account that doesnt make sense

[@ondrejs2]

@@lanatsif Yeah forgot to say - I had my account deleted when I quit.

[@lanatsif]

@@ondrejs2 oh ok

[@NotAnAmerican]

Soda didnt play enough casual games by the sounds of it.

[@ericnull3470]

"too much to learn" for new players? It's nothing compared to dota. I started my moba addiction with Dota2. Left the country, lost my group, stopped playing mobas. Came back to the states and just dipped my toe in league. Easy to pick up. Easy to understand. No issues. Tried to go back to dota? Impossible. I will never be able to play that game again. I have NO CLUE what is happening in the 2 games I played in. Just 0-100 dead with no impact or dmg done to anyone and I could not tell you why because that game has way to much going on.

[@extraterrestiaI]

Yeah that's a bad thing brother, that's why no one plays dota

[@sundanser]

part of why dota is even harder to comprehend than league is because there is absolutely no visual clarity on whats happening. when you get hit by a xerath q or eve pops her charm on you, you instantly see the thing that caused you to die/take damage, so now you know what to look for when reading the champion kits etc. in dota, when you die because you got hit by a point and click 2s cc that has basically no visual indication, you feel like cheated by the game and your learning process is stumped as a result. league does a much better job at giving feedback during gameplay, wether its your actions or the other players actions. its those details, along with the fact that its a little more streamlined in general, that are the reason why its more popular than dota. thats how i see it, as someone that has played and enjoys both of them.

[@xdplayah]

nah man, too much bias from you. Just say you dont play dota as much as league. Dota is superior in technical, sound and visual aspects. Because who made it? Valve, who took good care of polishing their own games(but they suck at marketing them).​@@sundanser

[@sundanser]

@@xdplayah i agree that dota is a more complex and polished game from a technical perspective. from a visual gameplay perspective, league is simply better. im not talking about how pretty the game is, im talking about how the visuals relate to the gameplay. its not like im going to change your mind anyway, since dota dickriders would rather watch their whole family be killed before accepting any fault of their favorite game. theres a reason why you leagues euw server has more players in ranked right now than dotas all time peak player count.

[@xdplayah]

@@sundanser the reason why it has more players is for sure not game related, just because Riot is more engaged in promoting their game, dont mean a shit in terms of game-balance, visual/audio clarity, quality of tutorials/guides for new players. Riot updates league every 2 weeks, why they do that? So the game will keep 'fresh', otherwise loser mental players will cry and complain about another op character(s). Every quarter they drop 'new' character with overpowered kit on a paywall, and after half a year it goes into landfill. Nice balancing. By the way if you like league more, just say it. Don't state your opinion like a fact, when Riot literally milks their own playerbase in every possible way. 2025 is near like they said.

[@bryndt6647]

Everyone saying League is a bad game but ask yourself why you play it. Because it is actually a good game and very addicting. You just don't play it 12 hours a day

[@lukejaffray2518]

No it’s a garbage game… you just have played a long time.. as a new player to the game you cannot learn cause you have players that know the game and which items to buy dumping on you then emoting cause they killed you…. And if you buy the wrong item or die to much then your team quits on you and you get jumped on by 5 opponents… at least in Fortnite I can get 15 kills then get dumped on by someone better than me and feel like ok that was a good try on to the next

[@sylloquent]

For real

[@XtremeVideoCorp]

If I was making the money they are I wouldn’t complain

[@Auzuru]

I had 2 snipers when I had like 13 viewers and the snipers even came in my chat and told me they're sniping me lol. I can't even imagine how many snipers you would have with +20000 viewers

[@lordmonocr6206]

Dont really agree with the no new players because I just recently got my brother and his friends into league and none of them have played it before. They don’t know everything about it but are learning champs and are having fun with playing with each other

[@stalliondave9338]

This is kind of every moba experience. My mate asked me to play HOTS so i did, but after a few games you are already in games with dudes whos accounts are multiple thousands. You have no idea what most champs do, and most game mechanics. When to push, group or what objectives are important. But you instantly get told uninstall or whatever. Im from league so thats normal. But if i wasnt desensitized i would probably quit.

[@angryclown7643]

Like no. 777 was mine

[@hayleyberry3437]

If everyone is a smurf can somebody tell my noob adc to build last whisper vs 3 tanks? Happens every game

[@dextros6229]

everyone hates it but noone can stop playing it

[@lukejaffray2518]

League is just insufferable if your trying to learn cause people just stop playing if you die a few times or quit the game and then the other team constantly double teams you which is why I have quit playing league about 20 times… and the bot mode is garbage cause they have patterns that you can exploit and they don’t help you get better

[@tasidar3]

5:40 guy has never played Tarkov apparently.

[@kpacny1]

items in League arent that important, just buy all the recommended...thats what I do

[@spencerignatescue158]

I don't think anyone has mentioned yet that if there was no rank system or world's that the game just isn't fun to play. If I was told I had to only play draft I'd just not play it. Just a boring game with lopsided matchmaking.

[@Prism_Heavy]

i just play aram and have fun. it's also hilarious watching people tryhard and flame in ARAM games. then you have people calling them out because those people are simply having fun. haven't played ranked since season 7 and my mental is great

[@casperryborg4869]

Well I can just counter your argument by saying that I stopped playing ranked back in season 6, and draft has made the game much more enjoyable for me. Maybe don't state your subjective opinion as fact, especially if you don't have data to back it up.

[@exalted-champion-of-grinch]

League is like a Chinese mobile phone game but for the PC, except it's somehow worse.

[@Gabriel-wi7bx]

my problem is that everything is manipulated by riot games. the runes you take, the champs that are good, the items you can build. it feels like theyr deploy psychological warfare to manipulate what ur teammates do in a game if you start building items that are not designed to be competitive. honestly i just think its scary that these people actually run an entire country.

[@Crocorocka]

They.. Run an entire country? What

[@Gabriel-wi7bx]

@@Crocorocka the people who run tencent games which own riot are ccp officials. they have a seat in chinese parliament. i believe they use government programs in their games like psychological warfare spying and torture

[@abraxas6326]

That TTS dono is kind of correct. But League is a cake walk for someone like me who has 30k+ games of SC2.

[@sakesaurus]

it's weird to generalize ppl assuming they're all casual players. Maybe certain european and na demographics it's true. But you have to realize all the sweaty regions like latin america and asia look at league and it's mot that the game is hard but they lack interest

[@Austrveg]

im a new player and i enjoyed everything with league except my first 5-10 games honestly, it just takes a lil to get used to thats all

[@Levelity]

Everything he is saying applies directly to WoW pvp scene. There is almost no new players.

[@SalmonShrk]

I'm glad ppl are starting to realize this outside the league community, its really bad out here. its not that you cant succeed as a new player, but low elo where they are supposed to learn with other new players is just a hell hole you cant escape. so why would they keep playing when some random dude riot refuses to ban or let rank up teams up with them and then gets mad cause they cant perform. its honestly not good but I wouldn't really blame either party they both have good reasons to be upset. riot just doesn't fix the problem. I just tell ppl when I know they are brand new to go play unranked. not even as hate. Its just your gonna hate yourself if you try learn the game in ranked

[@lanatsif]

I mean you said it yourself ranked is not the place to learn the game and it never was, being able to play ranked at lvl 30 never meant that you should do it as soon as you reach it, he doomed himself to have a bad experience right from the start 😅

[@SalmonShrk]

@@lanatsif i feel before you join ranked you should spend the time to know at least one champion in each role, I think you should spend some time learning the common matchups and actually understanding what to do. ultimately it is a stepping stone you have to step into ranked to hone those skills, there should be a base level of understanding to the game though, if hes able to hit gold I would assume he knows the basics right. problem is when you go into ranked because of the way ranked and mmr works, you end up getting a mix match of people who have played for 12yrs and are stuck, are brand new, smurfs, bots etc... the justification that those partiers should all play together makes zero sense. low elo is where low elo and new players should learn to play, not be somewhere where you are running into hardstuck players and smurfs ruining their w/l ratio so they stay in low elo etc... but I get it you want to focus on that one point and try make it seem like what I'm saying doesn't make sense when it 100% does. its crazy how that makes sense to you but the idea that we should just reset mmr flies right over your head and everything else that I say. I don't think he screwed up, i think the system is screwed up and he payed the price for it believing hed have a normal experience. which he should. and its totally fixable, riot just doesn't fix it. and it is a concious choice at this point. because even riot Korea and some other servers have implemented fail safes such as requiring government id to sign up. so its a literal choice that riot NA and riot/tencent in general is making to not do those things. I'm sorry but I don't stick up for blatant disregard for a community and I never will. there isn't a dollar amount that would leave my jimmies unrustled to this sort of behavior from a multi billion dollar company.

[@LoganChristianson]

League shit, sucks to be a new player, yada yada, yet it's somehow remained relevant and played and streamed by so many people for so long. They're doing something right. Just don't know what the fuck it is.

[@Fujindansen]

To be fair, there really isn't any other MOBA to play right now besides DOTA i guess, but who wants to play that. So people stick with league.

[@Mr_Mistah]

​@@Fujindansen Smite exists and Smite 2 is releasing soon Don't forget Paragon Predecessor

[@Fujindansen]

@@Mr_Mistah Paragon died long ago and whatever extra they're making is very sub par. Also smite is different cause it's a 3d moba, I mean something similar to league eagle eye view.

[@izzyforeally]

What they're doing right is implementing micro dopamine releasers and so you're constantly taking hits of your drug that kills you at the same time. Last hitting CS, finding a ward to clear, successfully ganking, landing skills etc, etc.

[@sampreece]

Slot machines are doing something right, too.

[@fraai]

only reason i play new accounts is because unlocking all champions takes forever so whenver i wanna try something new i just make new smurf my main got banned back in 2013 for typing and i quit until 2018 so yeah i cba they should just let you have every champ for free but instead they are greedy goblins and they extract money from you with the xbox game pass lol

[@slifer4912]

People aren’t smurfing they just live in normal games. I know every single champion ability and scaling. Yet I’m silver. I digress.

[@Foolbool_]

Dont permaban the most addicted players so they lose their skins, and they wont buy new accounts and ruin your game

[@lancelottrivino2273]

Will say his rant about people shouldnt be surprised when you have no clue what 180+ champs do...yes-- they should be upset if you dont know what champs do. ESPECIALLY in ranked. Why even bother qeueuing ranked if you have no idea what half the champs do? Everyone has to deal with your ignorance and suffer because of your lack of game knowledge? dont play ranked. Go into norms or practice tool, or bots and learn what champs do. You're griefing people at that point if you dont know what ppl do in a ranked game.

[@SuperDevilDucky]

I have never played league but come from rainbow so I have some idea of what it’s like for a game to have a shit ton of hero’s. But I just had an idea for how to make the game more accessible to learn. It would be interesting to see how it would play out if there was ranked style game mode that restricted hero’s. So at copper or what ever you only have only have access to the basic hero’s , but as you climb, the more hero’s you have access to. So if you are stuck in say gold, it narrows down how much you have to learn. It could be stupid , but might be the only way to make games like that accessible to new players

[@vividly94]

but isn't that what the ban phase is for? lol

[@SuperDevilDucky]

@@vividly94 I would say the ban phase is to ban hero’s that are op or annoying to deal with, not hero’s who you don’t know what they do. There is certainly some overlap, but I think being able to limit how much you have to learn at once would be helpful to new players.

[@vividly94]

@@SuperDevilDucky I never ban the OP champions unless i'm playing a champion the OP champion counters. Most of the time, i literally ban champions i don't know how to play against lol ever since i first started.

[@frostyjeff]

Terrible

[@kaungsetmoe4876]

Just one word my friend: Tutorial. See what Dota 2 does for new players, and compare it to what LOL does to them.

[@RedCrow.]

So streamers that hit challenger while streaming are actually a tier above normal player.

[@Ranius125]

I disabled chat 5 years ago. I wasnt angry a single minute since that day. Just play for you, your elo doesnt matter anyways. Who are you? A pro? - diable chat, queue into aram and stop crying.

[@hhhllkk88]

He’s wrong, I’m New

[@pedroperro4991]

and thats another reason korea is just better at the game. They arent making 100s of smurf accounts because they cant, so they are forced to actually get better on their main accounts. Riot has no idea how absolutely shiet it is play every single game against smurfs as a new player, it would actually be easier for a new player to climb out of platinum than silver due to the amount of smurfs.

[@smenkinsa]

i have a friend that constantly harassed me to join league tried twice, not welcoming crowd tell u hhhhwhat

[@gaoquake]

There are DEFINITELY that many smurfs, I myself have like 30 accounts to play with my friends

[@joedumas1047]

why dont u just use 1 account? im so confuses

[@samuelmacek8622]

@@joedumas1047 bcs when you are higher rank you cant play with them

[@tegridyfarms6197]

@@samuelmacek8622 or you fuk over your friends experience because he comes from vs coop int play vs this plat teemo one trick... Imagine seaperate mmrs like good games (like sc2)had for years.

[@joedumas1047]

@@samuelmacek8622 again, dont rank with ur bronze teammate??? you ruin everyone's experience, including ur friend. Play normals

[@adamcurry5033]

I just started playing this game and i think its incredible....toxic.....but addicting haha

[@Hahaaomghedidit]

u cant say incredible toxic and addicting in the same system lol that doesnt add up

[@Bleezers-fm8ue]

Every other game? Bro its every game

[@Dameionaruto]

Just to be more realistic 😆 like when a person says "a lot" instead of "most" because they're aware that they don't actually know if it's most or not.

[@anakinskywalker212]

why is soda acting like he's new when he was used to stream league with nmp and nightblue in 2013

[@lukasmisanthrop8557]

eleven years ago? the game was very different back then the fact that someone has to point that out to you is so fucking sad

[@wudly9195]

Playing league that long ago is basically the same as never playing it .

[@olejakobaune8033]

Only thing i'm perplexed by is why play ranked so early in such a deep game

[@lanatsif]

Yup this whole debacle is stupid. Ranked PvP takes knowledge and confidence in any game, why jumping in as a noob? What does he hope to accomplish by doing that? Getting praise? If so many people started playing League it's because it was fun to play and fun to learn about champions, not because they wanted to flex their rank or "become a league personnality", his experience was just doomed to be a bad one from the start 😅

[@anbuhyuga8299]

I've been saying this for a while man. If you are a new league player 2024, and actually continue playing, something is wrong with you buddy. I'm sry, but you need to be on a list. I started playing right after Nocturn came out and even back then it took ages before you actually knew what you were doing. Doing that today??? Bruh.

[@lanatsif]

There has never been more tools and guides available online to progress in the game, if your goal is to actually perform it's way easier to learn now than it was back then

[@RiverNeo]

Kinda a reason why this Game is slowly dying

[@merchant_of_kek5697]

I wish dota had real characters, it’s absurdly cartoonish, doughy reslly. Like oh here Lux in Lol then Archer girl in dota. Like fuck. I wish I just had the hot women in lol in dota 2 and I’d play the game forever.

[@helleaplays140]

LoL is a Very mid game when it comes to skill cap it's far from the high end but also far from the low it when he said there is so much to manage I almost laughed because yes it has more than the extreme low of Fortnite but nothing on the extreme high of star craft abilities take half the brain to decide to use than it would in a WoW arena and positioning takes up most of the games skill cap and I would place much value on something that is so easy to master

[@ita5297]

i love riot games and the great chinese state long live xi jinping

[@gbp3616]

Tyler bro, being in the top 0.1% of league it doesnt matter if youre streaming... no one is sniping you

[@oJackOfSpades]

LOL is so trash. I´m gold then down to iron and there´s nothing I can do about it. Sometimes my teammates feed hard af and sometimes they don´t and when they don´t it´s only cus the opponent have a bot on their team. Like the mm make no sense in this game and I´ve decided to just play with no regards to loss or win at all. Cus in the end it doesn´t matter

[@themagician6310]

I’ve always been saying that league isn’t even a real game. Half of the streamers and content creators play 1 champion and say “climb to challenger” whilst using dollar store earbuds and a laptop.

[@Bilbo122333]

this makes no sense lol. So is mario not a real game too than?

[@hata6290]

Actual Ioser WTF 😂

[@revlol1887]

i got a fuckton of aram games so knowing what each champ does is not a problem but in the rift there is so much more shit to consider. Is the old faker take "if you want to learn league the easiest way, play ryze or twisted fate" still true?

[@wudly9195]

Also playing against a champion in lane is vastly different than playing against them in aram

[@doublevision84]

You can delay your stream up to 15 minutes, which means sniping your stream they would be 15 minutes behind making it pointless so i have no idea why they dont do that while streaming league.

[@tegridyfarms6197]

yeah great set up for streaming, lot of interaction potential there...

[@thomasaquinas399]

At that point just post the vods to KZbin after the fact because you're getting 0 engagement streaming.

[@rrenpaii]

Yeah, league is doomed. Based on my friends, I know for a fact that they would happily make the switch and play something else because they are all just fed up - ngl they are annoying as shit in discord too, cant believe I was one of them at some point. They play the game because they've been playing for so long, climbed to "above average" elo and just get a kick out of it when they stomp someone who isn't playing their usual role. They don't want to make the switch and compete with tryhards in other games who have been playing that game for years - because we all know they would get stomped there. League's trend may go up for another 1-5 years, but all it really takes imo for leagues downfall is a new esports title being released (not necessarily a moba) that has everyone - old or young, student or 9-5 andy, casual or streamer - start anew at a similar level. If youve read until here and you want to stop playing league this year. Try uninstalling league before you go on vacation. When you come back, there is a high chance you are either cured and dont want to play it or you reinstall, play a few games and realize how miserable this game makes your life and uninstall it again - worst case nothing changed and you continue playing.

[@Bankai90]

ppl said that alrdy like 6 years ago xdd, reality is no game gives you such a emotional roller coaster and that's what keeps people addicted, not to mention it eats a tremendous amount of time so you're always missing another round

[@abbemartensson3850]

of course the streamer makes it about himself lol tyler1 is such a sad person

[@grossguy9570]

Bad players really have a coping problem with how many smurfs they think are in the game. You have to remember that the game works to where you're just as likely to have a smurf on your team as you are likely to be playing against a smurf. And even so, you really don't encounter that many and they really won't affect your ability to climb until Diamond1/Master+. That's where there's literal GrandMaster/Challenger smurfs in about 25-50% of your games and they have 3-4 smurf accounts in Master+ meaning they are occupying spots that other players should technically be allowed to hold. I mean if every challenger has 2-3 smurf accounts in Masters+, that means there's around 400-600 spots that are artificially filled by smurfs which at the top 1% of players is a MASSIVE chunk compared to Diamond 4 and below.

[@crimsonleaf2755]

Here's a simple logic so you can understand. Smurf = good ratings in game = paired with other smurfs New player = mains 1 champion = gets good at it = good ratings in game = paired with other smurfs So when a good new player gets paired with other smurfs who knows the mechanics and skills of champions for years, he'd lose. Simple as that.

[@phoneyboi6644]

Ok league cuck😂

[@tegridyfarms6197]

bro ever used op gg or anything like it? just count for one day how many level 50 or below players get into ur matchmaking... Ofc those are just new players with 60% and higher winrates that chose to just play one champ since they created the account.

[@andypae]

His point is that even low elo players have secondary accounts which they play on to cool off from a tilt, play with friends etc. There's so many low level accounts even in low elo playing like you could obviously tell that these aren't new players and that's his point as an actual new player; level 30 accounts complaining why he doesn't know how all 160 champs work.

[@Bankai90]

just cause someone is in silver doesn't mean they aren't a "smurf", you've people who play this game for 10years on/off and will prob play their 4th character rn and be stuck in silver. They might be bad but they still have already thousands of hours of experience and knowledge about the game. Longtime players literally can't understand how it must feel like to see Yasuo, Syndra or Nocturne and not even know wtf these characters even have for skills at all. You're correct tho that actual smurfs from good players are never even playing below anybody under p2. Idk how it is rn but for the last years starting MMR was E2

[@Dameionaruto]

Fck all that, if I have 500 people watching me play consistently, I'm having fun, especially when I'm getting paid

[@hranko3143]

Dota for children.

[@shinigamiauthor]

Sodapoppin sounds like an absolute child.

[@Bankai90]

he literally just stated how it is

[@ryan3371]

That donor at 5:40 "ppl dont realize they're shit at games until they tried league" lmaoo some of the most loser shit I've heard 100% if he actually plays fps games he aint doing shit. League is more strategy while fps and other games are more mechanic based

[@lanatsif]

If you dont think lol require mechanics then you just havent played it enough 😅

[@Tonkaan]

jeeeez, his job is to play a videogame so stop cry

[@kaungsetmoe4876]

A game that makes profits of millions of dollars from players all over the world, including those whose job is to play videogames. He can rightfully criticise and be angry about it, right or wrong.

[@Leon14000]

Crazy that Sodapoppin is still even around. I genuinely thought he fell off super hard.

[@Mr_Mistah]

What does "fell off" mean according to you?

[@Leon14000]

@@Mr_Mistah Massive % viewer loss, no longer seen on front pages of their respective games, etc.

[@JakeAtkins11]

@@Leon14000 not really, aint no xqc but still gets 10-20k views live, so think hes doing fine.

[@cursedworm]

Soda will never fall off. Dude can average 10-15k playing literally any fucking game ever which is insane to think about considering he's been doing it for so long.

[@pocketblue]

viewer amount doesn't define how entertaining a person is, at all you can have 100 views and still possibly have the most fun stream on the platform

[@bluerum896]

such a bad take honestly. the worst thing about league is as worse as you and your teammate's mental. sure there are frustrating things that are out of your control ( bad teammates, ego smurfs on your team inting, smurfs on enemy team diffing, stream sniping ) but let's not pretend that when these things happen ( to even us ) and we complain, we are complaining out of a blameless position. you could have played better too and probably made MANY mistakes (especially if you're gold elo). rarely do I see players have the humility to say "MB" and be accountable for their OWN faults. positive mindset to improve on your own gameplay will make you enjoy the game because it is actually enjoyable and not focusing things outside of your control

[@gasparagoston4449]

really not a bad take, what you are saying here is your experience after x amount of years playing this shit

[@tegridyfarms6197]

Insanly stupid take from you. With the way snowballing works the average silver and below game is just who has the lane with the brain dead pice of a monkey who will die 5 times before min ten, lol is a team game where you can hardly win allone but one teammate can run it down and your forced to pretend that there is a likelyhood above the avaerage dc rate to still win. About "rarely do I see players have the humility to say "MB"" what could be the reason the cancer community which only catalyst for there selfhatred is to devalue other people even more than they do to them self? No, the 1/8 top lane would never start blaming the jungler after one failed gank at min 15 for there inability to use there brain...

[@CuddleCakez]

The game is just more enjoyable if you don't care about winning. As long as I'm consistently making fun plays and not getting shit on I'm having fun. I just peaked diamond 1 recently as sup teemo, mental really is everything lmfao.

[@PyroFortune]

@@CuddleCakez even basing fun around that is tough when you try everything for a good play and end up short

[@CuddleCakez]

@@PyroFortune True enough. I guess playing easy champs like shroom teemo and malz does the trick for me. x.x