The Pimax Crystal Super is NOT what we Expected!! Meta gets full Windows!?

[@Tyrielwood]

I'm not sure what to think about Pimax prime, but the headset looks sick. Do we really need that much resolution tho?

[@HDHNTER]

I'd take one for free but I damn sure wouldn't spend money on Pimax promises, lol.

[@DouglasThom]

Oh yeah, for sure. My first reaction is seeing the detail in flight sims, especially DCS. But I also work in VR so that I can have all kinds of stuff around me including spreadsheets. Zero eye strain is a huge benefit. As for Prime, that's a neat trick to essentially "pre-authorize" you for leasing or a loan to afford the equipment. Sell it to you at cost and amortize the profit.

[@markkovalcson7243]

What we really want is 35ppd and wide FOV, but that's the VR1 and a 5090 will have it's hands full driving it well. Larger displays make it easier to make optics that give us wider FOV and are less expensive than designing and building optics for smaller displays to give us that FOV, so the Supers can be less expensive. Unfortunately as we found with the 55ppd XR-4 running at 35ppd, a native 35ppd headset will look sharper than a higher resolution headsets downrezzing. So until the 6090's get here the Supers may not look sharper than the Crystal does. They will have more FOV, brightness and better local dimming which will give them an edge. Also if the XR-4 ran great without Anti aliasing at 55ppd that would support their claims that we have enough power for them now. So far I haven't seen where that is the case with the XR-4. Has anyone heard differently? So we don't need the resolution, but it comes for the ride with the larger sensor. We just won't be able to really take advantage of until the 6090 gets here.

[@danceoffAsh]

@@markkovalcson7243 Agreed, 35 pp across a 140 FOV device would be sweet.

[@Sofian375]

I am mostly interested in the higher number of zones and the difference it makes on blacks quality.

[@Eskoxo]

KZbinrs need to stop shilling pimax and report on all the quality control and customer support issues.

[@drumbri]

Too man lies coming from Pimax. They come out with new models of headsets faster than they can keep up with the repairs of their old ones that they’ve already sold that are still in warranty. They also never keep their promises from older models like the crystal. They just move onto another headset and never keep their promises. (Widefield of view lenses) paid for a year and a half ago and still have not heard or seen anything about them. It’s like they just got forgotten into the abyss like their other lies. But they got my money. I’m still waiting. Everything goes to a back burner and their tech-support is horrible. Talk about kicking the can down the road. I’m tired of it. I was really excited for Pimax years ago and they’ve done a great job getting my money, but they’ve done a terrible job taking care of me as a customer. Buyer beware, they lie and they do not keep their ADVERTISED promises. Your headset won’t last.

[@malekkinos]

Pimax is a very risky choise: the customer service is absolutely not reliable!

[@RichAbe23]

Even canceling a preorder was a terrible experience. Def not going with primax in the future.

[@tomc1380]

@@RichAbe23 What was the big deal on canceling a $1 preorder (which is non-refundable)? I don't think it commits you to actually buying anything. You just lose your $1 preorder cost.

[@Ratzefazze]

for me the most horrible experience is the quality management of Pimax

[@DasJev]

@@tomc1380 imagine a conversation of 10 messages with someone who doesn't speak english and replies only with templated messages, without filling out the [customer name] part properly and just leaving the fields there, while they are about to pull 1500 from your credit card

[@LulzSecvirusinvader]

Get Megan x instead made in Japen, I will never buy a pimax. Bad warranty and bad service

[@vitalis]

Today I watched a video with receipts about how horrendous Pixma’s quality and customer support are

[@antjones2281]

Let me guess GYOG?

[@DasJev]

@@antjones2281 he was pretty late to the party

[@chargerboy762]

@@antjones2281 Yes!!!

[@sergioalmeria6191]

Pimax for me is like...marketing 10/10 - quality control 0/10 ,they MUST rework entirely quality control .

[@Drn10n]

Mark my word, pimax will go down the shitter now that they started with subscriptions. I would stay as clear from them as possible with all this "prime" BS

[@anthonyhill8061]

Again someone that's not got a clue. its not a subscription, but a way to pay for the headset and make more affordable for the masses.

[@SargonDragon]

@@anthonyhill8061 Even Pimax calls it a subscription in their Pimax Sync 2024 video.

[@GTRWelsh]

​@@anthonyhill8061 it couldn't be clearer too. people are just so dumb

[@julianmazzola]

Crystal Super is very tempting at that price point. I understand why they're doing the whole Prime thing, I just wish during the presentation they just flat out said what it is. "We need to pay more staff if you want good customer support. It was either this, or raising the price of headsets. At least this way, we're giving you the choice."

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

I think companies like subscription type services because it gives them a more predictable income stream. Because they are actually making less by doing this, its 10% cheaper and they loose on inflation.

[@jessiestarr4600]

​@@Nobody-Nowhereit's because it's to pay off the headset there's a option to pay it in full on the website the subscription is just your payment plan making it affordable so everyone can get them

[@jonr6472]

If they made a product that wasn't so low quality and unreliable they would need less customer support. And charging for good customer support is just ridiculous

[@Winter-CIG]

VR resolution has gotten good enough that I can happily play on any modern headset. FOV is thing I wish manufacturers would focus on. VR is all about immersion and a wider FOV is the biggest bang for buck improvement that can be made for immersion. Given the choice I'd take a Quest 3 resolution with a wider FOV every time over something with super high resolution and micro oled but still feeling like I'm wearing goggles.

[@r.m8146]

Man, seriously? No comment on the whole "active pixels" thing? A VR company came up with a totally new, completely unheard-of metric that is extremely consequential and not a word on it?

[@SINfromPL]

He lives of shilling, dont come here for anything more than commercials and irrelevant food thoughts.

[@stubot-vrveteran]

Pimax saw Immersed Visor's monthly payment options and thought "Let's do that, We can cast the illusion the headset is cheaper than the extortionate prices we ask for".

[@AlejandroLopez-wy2st]

And the truth is, they don't need to do that. 1695 USD for a 57PPD 120º HFOV QLED headset is great. So, I am not sure of why they decided to make the Prime, but I hope it helps to improve software, and more importantly, customer service.

[@blackduckrun]

@@AlejandroLopez-wy2st Because from what I understand, the prime part is considered a software subscription, so if you return it they somehow don't need to refund you that part. So if you pay up front, you're really hooped as you've lost the full $696, not just the portion you've paid before you cancel your subscription.

[@jessiestarr4600]

​@@blackduckrun that's false tbh... it says in the term of service you get refunded the entire amount

[@jessiestarr4600]

​@@blackduckrunit's not a subscription like they label but a payment plan

[@jessiestarr4600]

​@@AlejandroLopez-wy2stthey absolutely do need to give options and it's a payment plan labeled as subscription I'm all for it truthfully means I can afford to get one but most certainly could not afford 1800 raw... this opens doors for other people who wants a premium experience

[@brettgrieves]

Lets be honest here. We need pimax to get a product right before releasing a new product and sort their customer support out. Crystal launch - total shit show. poor quality plastic lenses sent out, stupid need for battery, hundreds of complaints about QC, lenses, tracking etc. Crystal light - much better release than the above, its what the crystal should have been all along. QC is still poor as are some lenses. Overall customer support is extremely poor. So Pimax launch another headset. do we really expect this not to have issues? If you know pimax you know the risks. you might get a perfect headset, but lots of people dont and getting the headset replaced can take months and months.

[@rightrudderleftstick]

3:25 jeez the finger prints, the marketing team didn't bring some alcohol wipes lol

[@PhotoJohn80]

It was exactly what I expected... not sure what people were expecting. Seemed straight forward to me.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

Rokid also announced smart glasses with cameras and AR1, but also having green monochrome displays on both eyes. Price was set to 350$. So might be more interesting that the meta raybans. Depending on the software. But displays give a lot more usability than just audio.

[@WindFireAllThatKindOfThing]

That would be the only true missing piece for me, I only really ask to read messages real quick on my Wayfarers, maybe a maps app HUD. The AI gimmick is mostly pointless to me except for rare text translations. The selling point that has made my glasses essential is replacing my earbuds and phone camera. Especially when driving or otherwise have my hands full. The glasses are simply too convenient, EXCEPT for reading texts, then no need for the watch. Message readback interrupts conversations. Would rarely need to dig my phone out of my pocket again when the Glasses become the interface peripheral for 90% of use cases. And I'm ok with the phone becoming mostly a compute puck and cell network signal processing antenna for the shades.

[@paulnicolas172]

Really need to see fov increase significantly before I invest in a new headset - 100 degrees is last gen goggle effect lol - why are we going backwards when pimax was noted for the best fov headsets ?

[@marcusdamberger]

100 degree FOV is a limitation on micro OLED panels. The QLED panels are 120 FOV and 135FOV for the 50ppd version.

[@johndzwon1966]

Something not talked about in these reviews, which would be a deal-breaker for me: What is the MTBF of this headset? I couldn't care less about the spectacular specifications if it starts to malfunction or dies in a relatively short period of time.

[@JPWestmas]

They told me I cannot purchase the headset for the full price. "I'm sorry, people can only choose the mode of paying 599 first and then paying the balance, whether it is light or Super from today."

[@britboy4321]

This is so if you refund it, they don't have to give you all the money back. 'Membership to a club' can't be refunded ..

[@JPWestmas]

@@britboy4321 I like the idea of clubs but not in this hardware buying context.

[@TomPoe-w8b]

after everything i have heard about the customer service of pimax no way i would spend upwards of 2k for this

[@Killswitch1411]

I keep checking back into the VR space world and I cant say I'm really excited about much of what's going on. The HMDs are getting more expensive when it comes to PC HMDs, software more limited or less interesting in the types of experiences I want in VR. I've almost sold my last head set a few times.

[@OlivierFablu-c9m]

A psvr2 is perfect for $400

[@thatzaliasguy]

Windows as an OS built into an HMD sounds freaking terrible...

[@clamojoat8543]

just trying to copy meta

[@toututu2993]

Windows as an OS is terrible as a whole no matter which device it is running on. If only other OS have support, I will never use Windows ever again given it started getting worse after Windows 7

[@SargonDragon]

It's streaming, not actually running Windows on the Quest hardware.

[@slopedarmor]

its 29 million pixels for both screens combined, not per eye

[@technewseveryweek8332]

Pimax is aiming for regular cashflow, which may be a smart play from them. For a small company, cash is king and profit is secondary

[@DouglasThom]

Maybe Meta should pair with Shadow PC?

[@gloomsouls]

The problem there is that there's less in it for Meta than there is for Shadow PC. I already use Xbox cloud gaming on my Quest 2.

[@pedrosura]

I got a Pimax Chrystal and it is great. I am buying the Super.. i had an issue with the Chrystal order and they fixed it. I play DCS. If it wasnt for VR, I wouldnt play..

[@Blue-bf8lv]

i always saw pimax as the FOV company, 100-135 FOV is taking a step back from 160 on the 8KX

[@Tyrielwood]

yeah, its kind of weird that they moved away completely from the FOV stuff, but those lenses to be honest weren't really the best

[@iwantanewhead2976]

I hate the customise thing. Cant they stick to something in middle and give user a best fov with decent ppd

[@rapidey3movement360]

I wonder how much e-waste they create from canceled/unreleased products

[@eliapavoni2275]

Maybe too big for roomscale gaming etc for which i highly prefer headsets as small as possible but for seated gaming like sims etc this is probably the best headset

[@jeffrey1296-rl1mi]

Needs to be running META horizon, or at the very least , BE STANDALONE

[@NovaGeddon771]

Yeah but they still own us the FOV lens to the original Crystal. I really don’t care what new products they have to offer. I want what they said they will provide to us. Pimax needs to get their game face on, and face that what they said they will provide to clients becomes reality.

[@Killswitch1411]

They may as well give people their money back on those lenses.

[@gerarderloper]

Sorry 100deg is not enough for me. I really want 130-150, especially if its a premium product like this. But it does sound like it will be around the cost fo the Index-2 whenever that gets announced. I think Valve is going to give us better FOV!

[@marcusdamberger]

Only the OLED display engine of the Super has 100 degrees FOV. The 57ppd is around 120 FOV, while the 50ppd is supposed to be around 135 FOV. I believe this is a limitation of micro OLED panels, there is only so far you can blow it up. The MeganeX is about 100 degrees FOV and I believe the Big Screen Beyond is also similar FOV using micro OLED panels.

[@OlivierFablu-c9m]

​@marcusdamberger And the PSVR2 has a fov of 110, for a price 3x lower....

[@marcusdamberger]

@@OlivierFablu-c9m True, I guess I was thinking of pancake lenses with micro OLED. PSVR2 uses fresnel lenses using standard OLED panels.

[@OlivierFablu-c9m]

@marcusdamberger Yes, but he makes coffee, and very well.

[@TRX25EX]

Pimax Crystal Super is nice but here's things I don't like about it: 1. DP 1.4 instead of 2.1 2. Still uses same design than a new weight saving design (although 815g is nice improvement) 3. They should went for 135FOV as standard, market in need for such a thing 4. Passthrough The price to be honest is great considering what you get, so no complaints there, now all we need is that it lives up to expectations

[@directorscut4707]

I've read it might have 135 fov

[@ramonzaions7522]

Damm i think they are on DP2.1! 1.4 for Tath resolutiom are bad!

[@TRX25EX]

@directorscut4707 that's extra module which I believe should have came standard as I mentioned not as additional, to differentiate it even more than regular Crystal

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

Its interesting that there has been no mention about passthrough for the Super. While they did at least plan to release it for the Crystal. Maybe there is simply not enough USB bandwidth after that tracking cameras for passthrough cameras. Or it is just too big of a software development hurdle.

[@Nobody-Nowhere]

@@TRX25EX Once its available you most likely can choose on purchase, but it think it might be a slight compromise in overall image quality. That the 57PPD is the optimal, and after that its pushing it. Meaning probably more CA, less overlap etc.

[@acacia27]

VR just needs working software/firmware, I am not buying into a platform that doesn't work as well as another platform let alone the other issues Pimax has, they launch these headsets to mask their other problems into why no one uses their headsets.

[@jessiestarr4600]

At least they are the only company to actually push high end... and way more affordable at high end area. Varjo xr4 $8000 apple vision pro which we still don't know what it's for $3500 now we have a product that's 1800 total half the price each launch there device gets better

[@jessiestarr4600]

Quest lies themselves so does valve so does every company. Deckard I'm pretty sure won't ever come out now was to launch awhile ago during quest 3 release we havnt heard anything. Yes pimax releases something that fixes other problems of there previous headset and the problem is you can't fix everything from software related when problem lie at the hardware. They fix something and slowly gets better this time around if it's retina resolution I'll take whatever problems it has and fix them cause overall when you can make work around for the problems they are a decent headset. Quest 3 said no screen door effect and we definitely have it

[@anahata8870]

I habe to admit that i like pimax :-)

[@tomc1380]

I preordered a Pimax Super OLED with pancake lens a few months ago. After watching the Pimax update, including their take on pancake lens, I'm starting to wonder if this is ever going to be released. Time will tell I guess. After recently returning my PCL for a refund (bought from my local Amazon Store thank goodness) due to aspheric lens distortion (plus CA), and not wanting to enter the Pimax lens lottery, I'm not keen on the Supe QLED with their promise of new and improved aspheric lens. Also, the Pimax Prime plan sounds a bit fishy, to me anyway. If users cannot afford to pay for their headsets up front, then they probably cannot afford a high end PC to run it imho. Their upcoming wireless option can only be used with the original Crystal so I don't see the point of this.

[@truhunk1]

I would never go back to fresnel lenses.

[@FAA-DPE]

What you need to realize is all of these negative comments that have come out all of a sudden towards PiMax are all either bots or people who don't own the headset or own something else. Everyone who owns a pimax crystal light loves it. Mine is freaking mind blowingly outstanding. so much so that I bought the new super. But just go ahead and believe everything you read on the internet. Those of us who "actually own it" tell a different story.

[@OlivierFablu-c9m]

Go watch GYoG's video

[@SargonDragon]

Excuse me, but I've run Pimax for years. I've owned several of their headsets include the recent ones. And the negative comments you're referring to are true. Look. People put up with Pimax's BS because they make the most powerful headsets on the market, and they're great _when they work._ But you will suffer for it. If you haven't experienced that yet, wait.

[@defaultHandle1110]

There goes Pimax. I will never consider them now.

[@HavocStylesJoe]

2:00 IDK I don't see a down side to it except one. If you want to sell it before you pay it off but that can be mitigated.

[@jdogofoz3642]

no thanks mate pimax is a joke of a company and all there stuff is expensive and feels cheap there QC is horrible and if its the same lenses as on the crystal no thanks the chromatic aberration was horrible. there hmds are always bulky and uncomfortable aswell. i gave them the benifit of the doubt a few times but always let down and got rid of the device

[@jessiestarr4600]

For people thats just shitting on pimax my honest opinion im glad there doing the payment plan aswell on top of the 1000 it helps people like me and those complaining shouldn't complain they could never afford it in the first place until this came out. This helps alot get into premium pay 1k plus 34 per month or pay $500 for a quest 3 and by the time get all its accessories to make it worth while looking at $800 id spend $200 more i dont mind payment plans if it means i can enjoy my vr

[@FUZ2706]

I feel like the tech is progressing faster than the content on vr

[@Killswitch1411]

Thats what I keep saying. The hardware keeps being made and for what? Sims only?

[@SINfromPL]

this isn't tech progress, this is pimax building the fastest car in the world by welding two fastest cars in the world together and claim they are innovative

[@SuperMarijus]

how is pimax still afloat

[@jonr6472]

Because people want them to succeed and hope is a dangerous thing

[@danceoffAsh]

Because they release new headsets every year and make people FOMO if they don't buy it.

[@l8knight845]

Probably because they make the only PCVR headsets on the planet.

[@wajdi1977]

Looks again very front heavy and bulky .

[@NikiMuskivitch-o3u]

Appreciate the detailed breakdown! Could you help me with something unrelated: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). How should I go about transferring them to Binance?

[@Treebsquire]

Pre-ordered the Pimax Crystal Super OLED months ago. the specs of that headset are a game changer for PCVR. Can't wait to get my hands on it.

[@TheCangar]

If it's legit then the Pimax Super is going to be the final VR, other than weight. But I don't trust them and I'll be waiting for reviews. The've been bullshitting everyone for too long.

[@jamiesalmonsculpture8599]

What's next promise after the Super? The uber super duper?! It will also have a neural link implant and be able to make you have telepathy???😂😂😂

[@jessiestarr4600]

It might have it where you can get the new robot sex dolls China made and makes it immersion getting blow jobs or getting fucked makes it where "vr " is true immersion

[@pondracek]

The 12k. It was already on the roadmap before the Crystal Light.

[@danceoffAsh]

Crystal Ultra

[@technewseveryweek8332]

Was Chrystal a scam? Or is Apple the only ones allowed to have a high resolution headset

[@ZZYDDD]

did they fix the tracking? none of this matter if the tracking is trash. if meta can do it. so can they

[@OlivierFablu-c9m]

Pimax the only company where poor quality plastic costs more than gold. Never, even a vive premier is better finished. psvr2 at this price good choice, you can't go wrong. I don't want an lcd screen anymore...

[@BeyondtheBox1]

Pimax is a wannabe Vr company. They don’t respect their customers, they don’t even respect reviewers (I know because I am a reviewer). This company absolutely is gonna try some $12 a month program one day. I guarantee it.

[@ricardograde5134]

What they didn’t talk about was, what computer you need to run all this specs in full resolution…

[@chadef555]

They said the upscaling option will be a thing. It has been applied to Crystal Light and doesn't look too bad. So people without top of the line GPUs should still be able to have a decent image quality. And with such a high resolution and pixel density even downsampled image should look great.

[@yossefphilosoph7715]

minimum - cpu i5 12 gen / ryzen 3600x gpu rtx 2070 / 3060 mid - cpu i5 13600k / ryzen 7600x gpu 4070

[@ricardograde5134]

@@yossefphilosoph7715 thank you for your answer. Do you know is the 50ppd with the 135fov is more heavy to run? Or is the same as 57ppd 120fov? The game I am thinking about is the MSFS2024.

[@yossefphilosoph7715]

@@ricardograde5134 ppd and fov they are not hardware dependent. if you go with higher fov you will get lower ppd = lower pixel density = lover image quality if you go with higher ppd you need to choose a lower fov. for flight sims big fov is must for a more realistic experience. pimax crystal super provide image with a huge 29 milion pixels so the image quality will not reduced if you go with higher fov.

[@yossefphilosoph7715]

@@ricardograde5134 For flight sim its better big fov for a more realistic experience. Generally, big fov decrease the ppd (pixel density / image quality) in low resulation headsets. Pimax super provide high resulation of 29 milion pixels so big fov will not decrease the image quality.

[@zackmac5917]

Weight is one of the biggest issues. What's the weight of this thing? At a time when headsets are becoming much lighter and more comfortable, especially micro-OLED headsets, Pimax are still stuck in the era of big bulky bricks on your head. The specs are great, but this will likely be the heaviest headset on the market compared to all other recent consumer headsets. Weight should be a top priority imo, and while they are clearly concerned with bringing the size and weight down, it's clearly not that high on the priority list for them. The era of heavy bulky headsets is fast coming to an end, and Pimax need to move more quickly. They specs are great, but I don't think I could honestly spend any more time in VR with a headset that weighs probably around 900g, when I can have a 4k x 4k per eye micro-OLED headset that weights 200g and floats off of my face in perfect comfort. If this at least weighed

[@KollerNi]

Which is the 4k x 4k per eye headset with eye tracking and DFR and audio which is 200g or even 500g for 2k€/$ you’re talking about? Being a user of the original Crystal weight is no issue at all. Pimax is clearly focused on Sim stuff, for little mobile type games you could still use a Quest or alike. So the focus of the HMDs are totally different.

[@SINfromPL]

@@KollerNi lmao pimax isnt focused on anything, not even sim stuff. its just you "sim guys" are tarded bunch who value only 1 parameter of vr which is resolution and then build your identity around displayport while in reality you mean absoluetly nothing. i repeat, nothing. for years and years, even this year, they still tried to go after everything, like standalone crystal gaming and 'productivity' apps. this is what you call sim focus? you guys are a funny bunch.

[@KollerNi]

@@SINfromPL It doesn't answer my initial question. You need to compare apples with apples, which HMD with similar features, ppd, etc. for roughly same costs or less would be an alternative? Btw. Pimax partnered with MS for FS2024 as well as offering bundles for Sim folks. So I would consider it a Sim related focus… Don’t get me wrong I had lots of issues with Pimax as a company and not happy about many things. However the overall package is quite good I don’t see many alternatives at his point.

[@technewseveryweek8332]

@@SINfromPL Go back and watch the presentation. They literally say they focus on sims multiple times

[@SINfromPL]

@technewseveryweek8332 yeah and? They say they do, and they still work on wireless addon that was supposed to ship years ago? Why you need wireless for sim? Why you need battery and standalone for sim racing? Stoopid

[@pchow6829]

Useless video to promote a Pimax product that does not exist. You'll be lucky if half of this product info is valid. Pimax over promise on every one of their products.

[@s4091boat]

Steam pushed VR under the bus and Pimax has saved it again

[@slickysan]

You forgot the /s

[@alexsp7086]

Honestly don’t support this company. They still have not finished much on their other products. Build, sound, comfort, software and support is all rubbish. Charging 1600 euro with out Dmax headphones and the lighthouse attachment which you have to buy separately is a disgusting marketing ploy. Only thing going for it is visuals. Bought the crystal normal version, but it’s definitely not worth its price.

[@slothsarecool]

just really don’t want China on my face

[@jimmy8x541]

If you buy a Pimax product you are a fool. Look around. They are an abhorrent company. EVERY SINGLE person who posts VR content, who has experience with Pimax products, will tell you about the pain in the ass they cause. Except for the people with Pimax affiliate links in their videos . . .

[@Jogngood]

You need to get a calculator out. The payment plan works out to be more expensive than paying upfront

[@blackduckrun]

I thought so too at first, it is really confusing the way they present it, but the discount is if you pay up front. The catch is the prime part is a subscription an apparently, non-refundable if you return the headset after 10 days. So if I understand that correctly, pay the $696 up front and decide you can't deal with their BS any more they only need to refund the $999 if it's beyond the 10 day period. Not sure if they'll let you cancel the subscription if you return with the monthly plan. Really shady stuff. I really hope I'm misunderstanding this as the headset looks promising.

[@SINfromPL]

@@blackduckrun the subscription is for 2 years, after 2 years you still have to pay 12 a month lol. otherwise these headsets would work in offline mode, which is not the case.

[@blackduckrun]

@@SINfromPL No, I don't think there are any payments after the two years. I interpreted much of what was reported, which I thought I clarified here in a couple of comments, but those comments seem to have been deleted so, yeah, see ya around Tyriel.

[@SINfromPL]

@@blackduckrun pimax didnt say you can use it after 2 years without any extra costs forever, nor they said it doesnt have to be always online. pimax is just chinesium, represented by two white sellouts.

[@criog.b1344]

Sembra un visore degli anni 80 troppo grosso 👎🏻

[@ghoste7546]

1st view 1st comment again!

[@Tyrielwood]

Legend!