Which of these two hot hatchbacks would you take home? Do you prefer the classic front-wheel-drive Civic Type R or the rally-inspired all-wheel-drive GR Corolla? Let us know in the comments!
@Blas4ublasphemy Жыл бұрын
Any chance you could also run a GR Yaris in the future for comparison to the Corolla variant?
@vDub_mk5_ndo Жыл бұрын
Honda Type R 👌
@STORM3SHADOW Жыл бұрын
I love both for different reasons, but when it comes down to it, the FL5 Type R is just that much better in every facet. Both cars feel special and are very limited...both will be highly sought after and valuable in the future, but the Civic Type R just feels even more special. Gimme one in Championship White, please! (I have a deposit on one for MSRP but no idea when my name will be called)
@justme307 Жыл бұрын
@@Blas4ublasphemy Where would they get one? It's not sold in the US.
@van_der_lindeDA Жыл бұрын
Type R all day
@DPCcars Жыл бұрын
Absolutely loving this series, Edmunds U-Drags! It's such an innovative way to test out cars, blending the traditional quarter-mile drag with handling and rolling starts. This episode is a real treat, especially for hot hatch enthusiasts. The Civic Type R's horsepower or the GR Corolla's all-wheel-drive! Keep up the great work, always looking forward to the next episode. 👏🚗💨
@edmundscars Жыл бұрын
Glad to hear you're enjoying!
@gearbox1858 Жыл бұрын
Both cars are a waste of money when you can purchase a Golf R.
@miguelbarrigos3408 Жыл бұрын
I’d rather stab myself in the eye than drive a golf r
@semoff Жыл бұрын
U-DRAGs are the coolest, most clever and meaningful races on KZbin!!
@rmp5s Жыл бұрын
100%!!
@senzubeanbotanist152 Жыл бұрын
Carwow has entered the chat: Mat watson: idk about that.
@jiceli5713 Жыл бұрын
just watch best motoring...the rest is just a car show
@Toyota4Life Жыл бұрын
no
@brandtschnepf9778 Жыл бұрын
Carwow mate check ya self
@Soh90 Жыл бұрын
Results were as expected. The CTR’s biggest disadvantage is it’s launch which somehow wasn’t an issue here. Trap speeds show that the CTR is just a faster car period. Good on Toyota for bringing the GR Corolla to the market though. What’s interesting is that even the GR86/BRZ is trapping at a higher speed than the GR Corolla. That little 3 cylinder just seems to run out of steam it seems. Obviously throw even the slightest bit of water into the equation and the GR Corolla absolutely lays waste to the CTR and GR86. If it were mine money, I’d take a GR Corolla Circuit with a slight tune.
@groundhabit6408 Жыл бұрын
The GR in this video has weight reduction with a brace in the back … was expecting it to be ahead of the CTR especially being lighter , AWD and stiffer bracing
@invalidusername_5101 Жыл бұрын
Back to square one if the civic gets a tune or water
@Soh90 Жыл бұрын
@@groundhabit6408 It could be faster. Others have launched the GR Corolla faster. But I think the results would still be the same.
@sunrisesunset1734 Жыл бұрын
the launch SOMEHOW wasn't an issue here... LOL wonder what went wrong..
@Soh90 Жыл бұрын
@@sunrisesunset1734 Probably the driver. Throttle house, for example, did not have the CTR beating the GR Corolla in the 1/4 mile. However I don’t think the results would have changed for the total race.
@pacoflyer Жыл бұрын
You guys are killing me with the launches. You don't just drop the clutch You slip it. Keep it at peak torque until your going at maximum friction.
@fullboost Жыл бұрын
AGREED. Gee... I wonder why it bogged lol. Mid 14s from that Corolla is WOEFUL driving.
@garysangster3092 Жыл бұрын
It's a great "liddle" thing 😢😢
@jonmeray713 Жыл бұрын
I smell burning
@brandonhwv Жыл бұрын
Theres nothing wrong with the GR, or its AWD system “not being enough”. Its just that the Type R is that great of a car and that much better than the GR. Not crapping on GR, its a amazing car, but the Type R is just that much better.
@cobrasanchez6596 Жыл бұрын
Ahh love these races
@ProjectAjax Жыл бұрын
Another banger. Love these Udrags. Type R is gonna win though I know it.
@kevinhamlett1400 Жыл бұрын
in 1/4 mile the gr wins. I have started mods on my friends GR Corolla. Done cold air intake, exhaust Magna-flow , just sent ECU out to get tune loaded. Next is intercooler and downpipe.
@itstygerr Жыл бұрын
@kevinhamlett1400 where do you get your aftermarket parts, if you don't mind me asking? I'll be buying a 2024 GR Corolla in a few months :)
@SIIKAP1 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinhamlett1400why did it lose in the 1/4 here then? Also, this is a Morizo edition, which is even lighter and has 22 more torque than the normal CRC.
@Diddy_Do_It2037 Жыл бұрын
@@kevinhamlett1400you much think they are really cool 😂
@marcorsxwhite Жыл бұрын
@@kevinhamlett1400 Stop with the bullshit bro. I'm not buying it.
@genetung8590 Жыл бұрын
Love both cars! I drive a Type R. I wouldn’t mind a Toyota either.
@keithjackson4985 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see what modern performance cars would do versus police package vehicles in this kind of test?
@728GT Жыл бұрын
It would be a swift ass kicking
@cochiloko3344 Жыл бұрын
I agree would be interesting
@Whats-It-To-Ya Жыл бұрын
Police packages are heavy and slow. Any v6 Mustang or Camaro will dust a police car
@DroneStrike1776 Жыл бұрын
@@Whats-It-To-Ya My little BP Mazda3 awd hatch with 186h[/186tq would smoke an Explorer Interceptor, those Chargers might be a different story if driven by Arkansas State Police. They'll chase you to hell and pit you. Chargers are pretty damn heavy with all the equipment, partition cell, and police gear it's carrying.
@Whats-It-To-Ya Жыл бұрын
@@DroneStrike1776 can confirm about the Explorer interceptors. The police department in my little hometown has two of them and I dragraced one of them down our back road with my '07 focus two-door hatch. It's got a Ford fusion 2.5 swap, 5-speed, LSD, fswerks intake, throttle body, header and full 2.5 inch cat back. The interceptor launched hard because of the AWD but I was 2.5 car lengths ahead when I shifted into 4th and just kept walking away from it. I never tried to find out (yet) but it's imagine my car would top out around 145, not sure about those explorer interceptor though.
@seanmcahill Жыл бұрын
I understand the difficulty of this ask - however, matching new vs. used performance cars that might be cross-shopped would be very meaningful especially for people shopping for a sporty performance car. Finding a 'representative' used version would be the big challenge given that condition, mileage, etc, make a difference in price and potential performance losses in a vehicle. Still, if a metric for the used examples were to be developed and implemented, then I believe this to be possible, and would be a fantastic addition to U-Drags!
@Hondaddy Жыл бұрын
Pointless in comparing new vs old...
@Shambles7698 Жыл бұрын
Corolla vs Civic rivals never disappoint you so excited 🔥
@kevinhamlett1400 Жыл бұрын
I have started mods on my friends GR Corolla. Done cold air intake, exhaust Magna-flow , just sent ECU out to get tune loaded. Next is intercooler and downpipe.
@davids1816 Жыл бұрын
Then you can redo the internals after it explodes...
@davidgriggs3967 Жыл бұрын
@@davids1816These are good for 500whp on bottom end stock internals.
@Garcheezy Жыл бұрын
@@davids1816they have been shown on gr yaris to make around 500whp on stock internals with no problems. They're quite tough little engines
@brucesuitt993 Жыл бұрын
@@Garcheezy but for realistically how long?
@dannybishop68 Жыл бұрын
The civic type r is amazing for a FWD car with so much power. It comes back so fast, and when it goes it goes. Two great cars indeed . The GRs only real advantage is off the line.
@Traumatree Жыл бұрын
Ahh, the famous Honda 3rd gear!!
@desmondmitchell5602 Жыл бұрын
This is very true
@kings_chronicle592 Жыл бұрын
This is the best drag Ive seen in KZbin period
@fergusodaly3 Жыл бұрын
Maybe you could turn on the Morizo's rev matching next time. It would've helped. I'm guessing you didn't even know it had a rev-matching abilities since you made no mention of it.
@edwardjdm Жыл бұрын
I drove my friend's Type-R, I'm telling you that engine is something else. Now, I wanna see a similar race between the Integra Type S vs Civic Type R
@SWEETVENOM100 Жыл бұрын
I love these U-Drags races! Let’s go📢
@chrism869 Жыл бұрын
they never dissapoint
@MarMPB Жыл бұрын
Nice race! Like another hot lap on track video that I saw, the Honda is definitely faster! Waiting for a C8 Z06 vs Porsche GT3 RS U-Drag race, guys!
@Garcheezy Жыл бұрын
the thing is that the way they launched the corolla in this video it''s not even close to the best they can do. If you maintain 6k revs you basicly are not doing any boost, so when you launch the car it just start building up boost from zero. On a "big turbo" and very boost dependent 3 cilinder it just bogs down. The best way for launching it it is just plant your foot down and while the revs are climbing and it's making boost, at around 6/6,5k rpm dunp the clutch. that way they run consisten high 13's 1/4 miles, around 13,8/13,9, that would make this test mostly a tie.
@DBX79 Жыл бұрын
That CTR puts down some serious power to those front two wheels!
@GERONIMO326 Жыл бұрын
Type R is just in a different league. Competing with high performance rwd sports cars. All the other hot hatches, compete with each other, where as the Type R competes with big time vehicles.
@reclaimer3439 Жыл бұрын
The Corolla is rated at like 30 MPG! I'm a Honda Boy and love the Type R but commuting in a GR would be easier on the bank account with that MPG.
@malcolmar Жыл бұрын
Very well done. You can't loose with either one. I am just glad in 2023, cars like this are still being made. Buy them people so they will continue to be made.
@scrambie Жыл бұрын
The demand for these cars far exceeds the supply.
@malcolmar Жыл бұрын
@@scrambie I hope that sends a message throughout the car industry that these are the kind of cars we want and people will buy them.
@jdiggy1195 Жыл бұрын
$54k for a Corolla! Never thought I’d see the day 😮
@justme307 Жыл бұрын
Never thought I would see the day that Challengers go for over $100K!
@chriswicks124 Жыл бұрын
Never thought I’d see the day that Toyota would make an AWD turbo corolla.
@AngelValdovinos Жыл бұрын
🤡 that's cheap
@BitcoinTo150K Жыл бұрын
@@AngelValdovinos no you've just been trained to be good little consumer puppet by corporate America LMAO!!!!!!!!!!
@mk5rob42 Жыл бұрын
And it's worth about 35k. Overpriced by 20k, sad really...
@n-power-automotive Жыл бұрын
Please U-Drags do a FL5 vs an Elantra N DCT. No other channel will compare the manual Type R to an automatic Elantra N. Instead it’s always the manual vs manual, which in the Elantra N’s case is the slower of the two options.
@wusthof641 Жыл бұрын
Love these "real car" races!
@tom666araya Жыл бұрын
I`d love to see the return run be a 1/2 mile section to the finish. 1/4 mile start, handling section & 1/2 return!
@SilverScarletSpider Жыл бұрын
better yet make it a 1 mile drag race at the end
@memememine1 Жыл бұрын
@@SilverScarletSpiderI think it's a great idea. The field they run this test on is an abandoned NASA airfield. There are two runways one roughly 7000ft and one roughly 8000ft long. They def have the room.
@DericAnslum Жыл бұрын
...upvote...great suggestion...you can still track the 1/4 return time...just stay on the gas for another 1/4-3/4...
@Soh90 Жыл бұрын
I got into an argument with some bloke over CTR vs Model Y. Yes, I know, two completely different cars, but I still think you guys should do it.
@desmondmitchell5602 Жыл бұрын
That's impressive for a 3⃣ cylinder
@povboy009 Жыл бұрын
also crazy price for a 3 cylinder
@tyhyhh Жыл бұрын
@@povboy009ahh yes the only think you get is the 3 cylinder
@AngelValdovinos Жыл бұрын
@@povboy009Kaizen 🤡👑
@povboy009 Жыл бұрын
@@tyhyhh explain why the car lost against a cheaper fwd car
@thystaff742 Жыл бұрын
A 3 cylinder with a turbo won't last that many miles if you plan on keeping it for a while.
@mizmera Жыл бұрын
Great setup for drags. Toyotas good for me. Honda driving only for 4 years now, LOVE IT. Honda type R amazing. But... for that toyota 3 cylinder... it is AMAZING to keep up.
@jbs256 Жыл бұрын
I’m really loving these races. I LOVE the course you all developed. It’s about as perfect as you can get for a total test in a short period. Now for a wish/challenge race. Before their time is totally up. The Korean Showdown. Kia Stinger GT2 RWD vs Genesis G70 V6 RWD with a proper upper package level. Sport vs. Luxury with virtually identical drive trains. Let’s do this.
@briangarner Жыл бұрын
Love the U Drags!!!! It's a much better metric than drag racing.
@williamupdegrove5340 Жыл бұрын
The Corolla was supposed to be set up 70 in the front & 30 in the rear. You got it backwards
@ppmnox Жыл бұрын
$50k for that gr is absolutely ridiculous.
@povboy009 Жыл бұрын
here in Canada Morizo Edition for sale for like $80k
@ppmnox Жыл бұрын
@@povboy009
@tyhyhh Жыл бұрын
What other options do you have a golf r or a wrx?
@ppmnox Жыл бұрын
@@tyhyhhwhy must there be another option? my comment is strictly about the price, which is ridiculous.
@bigcjm Жыл бұрын
@@ppmnox That because if someone says its over priced which youre implying. One has to ask what other 50-60% hand built 200 car a year production vehicle you can buy at this price. If you have one you know itll be gold in a decade.
@1209MArky Жыл бұрын
Can you do this with the Golf R
@juliangarzon7058 Жыл бұрын
Great video. I would love to see the Elantra N vs the type R. I've heard that the GR Corolla's Dyno does not reflect the power.
@GERONIMO326 Жыл бұрын
Throttle House did a video Type R ve Elantra N and it wasn't even close. Type R ate it for breakfast. It's in an entirely different league
@Wind_slash0 Жыл бұрын
That's like a you vs the guy she told you not to worry about situation
@gunnerscustoms Жыл бұрын
I wonder about the type R vs a 2.0 Camaro. They are quick and handle like crazy
@GERONIMO326 Жыл бұрын
@chuckclark4964 Camaro only has 275 HP, and on top of that, you factor in the drive train loss which is around 15% to the rear wheels, it's CONSIDERABLY less than the Type R, and cpl hundred lbs more
@gunnerscustoms Жыл бұрын
@jordanchitwood7278 If so, then why do they run similar quarter mile times? Torque would be the correct answer 😆
@gaycha658920 күн бұрын
I have a GR Track mode 50:50 is best for take off and cornering. TRack mode does clever stuff with the front diff to pull it into corners. sport is for show boating and is slower.
@JG-mg3if Жыл бұрын
Oh look another video of this two on perfect weather. The only difference is that somehow is the 1st in wish the GR losses in the 1/4 mile. Look the CTR is a little faster on a roll, same on a track. Gr might do better on a shorter/turn track. But the GR is not only built for dry track. How about doing rain,snow and mountains dirt back roads. Let’s see how those test turn out!
@TomShirazi Жыл бұрын
How about a Golf R with DSG (or an Audi S3) vs Honda Type R?
@exile4ever Жыл бұрын
Type R wouldn't be able to beat a DSG Golf R. I think a DCT Elantra N might even be faster.
@crxtodd16 Жыл бұрын
On another channel they said that the corolla feels like it limits power during launch. Seeing these two head to head it certainly looks to reinforce that statement...
@deyeatdapoopoo7582 Жыл бұрын
That and 1st gear is too long which coupled with turbo lag means it doesn't really get to take advantage of the additional traction off the line.
@Garcheezy Жыл бұрын
@@deyeatdapoopoo7582the thing is that the way they launched the corolla in this video it''s not even close to the best they can do. If you maintain 6k revs you basicly are not doing any boost, so when you launch the car it just start building up boost from zero. On a "big turbo" and very boost dependent 3 cilinder it just bogs down. The best way for launching it it is just plant your foot down and while the revs are climbing and it's making boost, at around 6/6,5k rpm dunp the clutch. that way they run consisten high 13's 1/4 miles, around 13,8/13,9, that would make this test mostly a tie.
@aj2858 Жыл бұрын
To be honest, for a 3 cylinder, awd, that Toyota is impressive, only .50 sec difference. That's definitely race inspired. Now, do the same race but in the dirt.
@rzaultra165 Жыл бұрын
but the engine there works really helps cover up the weaknesses of fwd, the engine with a very relaxed boost.
@JG-mg3if Жыл бұрын
They won’t, all reviews are on perfect weather. Advantage CTR..
@ii_dynasty Жыл бұрын
@JG-mg3if the GR is awd? It has the advantage and there isn't even much of a weight difference either.
@JG-mg3if Жыл бұрын
@@ii_dynasty my point is that the GR is more then just a track car on a sunny day. And that’s all this reviewers do. Yes the CTR is a little faster on a dry track but what about everything els!
@ii_dynasty Жыл бұрын
@@JG-mg3if It depends on tires if you're referring to wet track situations. Since the civic is pull during the straights, I would say that the gr is ahead at the line but the civic pulls ahead after the u-turn.
@DFaustJr Жыл бұрын
Gotta retest the Elantra N DCT now
@Marbind Жыл бұрын
I believe that the Elantra N DCT will win this one. If is launched properly it will jump ahead and pull ahead. The CTR will close the gap a bit during the cornering part but the EN will pull away once they go to the final straight run. **Assuming that the EN was octane learned 🤣
@bpvineethkrishna9553 Жыл бұрын
Lol nobody even knows that trash
@ctcdarkness9 ай бұрын
@@bpvineethkrishna9553bro what? Almost everyone knows what an Elantra N is. You’re dumb and just trying to troll.
@deang8910 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why they’re both saying they want to generate “wheel spin” on the takeoff. That’s the opposite of what u wanna do…
@quintschumable5 ай бұрын
Wheel spin gives the engine a momentum boost that ends up making you faster. That's why 0 to 60 times are typically faster than 5 to 60 times for the same car.
@jackylomega Жыл бұрын
Why wasnt the traction control turned off on the morizo?
@gaycha658920 күн бұрын
Cos they are dumb
@lordraiden5398 Жыл бұрын
Way back in 2003 my stock engine 2.0 liter 2002 WRX ran a 14.3 1/4 mile times with larger 17 inch wheels and crappy no name tires. Yes it was a prepped surface but like I said crappy tires that were not even close to the stickiness of Pilot Sports. How are these cars with 70 more horsepower running the same times?
@RelearnMath Жыл бұрын
Please do Civic Type R vs Integra Type S
@eliasrodriguez4507 Жыл бұрын
How does it take the 7 seconds to hit 60 in the corolla? that's super slow.
@gaycha658920 күн бұрын
Crap launches
@g4do Жыл бұрын
Toyota needs help creating a true performance vehicle. They can't seem to get at least one right . The Lfa was a flop . The supra is a collab . LC500 was ok but not wowing its fans . They just have a good reputation for not breaking.
@jamesbarbato2192 Жыл бұрын
The LFA was a flop? They sold all of them and now they’re going for over $1 million.
@nf1369 Жыл бұрын
What the fuck are you talking about? Toyota LED the codeveloped projects of GR86 and GR Supra. LC500 is a luxury car. The LFA was a legend.
@drivescene6747 Жыл бұрын
And even with the LFA they had help from Yamaha lol
@justme307 Жыл бұрын
Toyota is the second-largest stakeholder in the Yamaha, holding about 3.8% of the company's shares.@@drivescene6747
@carlospacheco8640 Жыл бұрын
@@jamesbarbato2192 It costed Toyota over $700 to build each LFA and they sold them at a $300-350K loss each. How is that not a loss to Toyota??? They don't make any profit from private sales lol.
@lukes8067 Жыл бұрын
Some hot hatch love 🔥🔥🔥
@SSS-mp8th Жыл бұрын
Love the U Drag but I can't imagine too many are spending $50k for the Morizo, I mean I paid that for my turbo 6 Supra two years ago.
@39rbn61 Жыл бұрын
Yeah. The thing is supposedly the "special edition" and it still lost. the japanese version of the type R is 330 HP and would further leave the corolla in the dust.
@thewonderfulland6207 Жыл бұрын
Udrage suggestion: supra mk5 vs audi ttrs or rs5, porsche 718,is500 -Rs7 vs m8 grand coupe, gt 63. -Vw gti vs elantra N,lexus is 350 -bmw m340i vs audi s4,c43,mustang gt,kia sting, 400z
@vasekvi Жыл бұрын
Awesome! Now bring out the FK8 and do it again please!
@Bbc418 Жыл бұрын
FK8 is ugly AF nobody cares about that!
@van_der_lindeDA Жыл бұрын
Had the FK8 and now FL5, it's just a better car...it's denial to think it's not
@vasekvi Жыл бұрын
@@van_der_lindeDA really a matter of opinion. Styling is subjective. Performance figures are not.
@van_der_lindeDA Жыл бұрын
@vasekvi no the FL5 is better in every aspect....I was owning the fk8 and lying to myself until I got thr FL5....
@vasekvi Жыл бұрын
@@van_der_lindeDA every aspect except an opinion on styling and performance which has already been proven
@gabea.458 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised the handbrake was not used in the Corolla for the turn
@Scythersmile1 Жыл бұрын
Did a little elmer fud there there at 4:02 lol 😂😂😂😂
@behindthebuild8016 Жыл бұрын
Another great one keep them coming
@cpolo88 Жыл бұрын
I knew the civic was good. Was honestly very surprised with it besting the Corolla with its awd. Great cars both of these 🫡
@sunrisesunset1734 Жыл бұрын
base gr corolla beats the civic-r off the line and in the quarter.. something happened here to make this differ from all the othe reviews... lol
@raynaldfernandez1436 Жыл бұрын
Love both cars. Can’t go Wrong with either
@mofayer Жыл бұрын
So true, if I were forced to choose, it would have to be the civic only because of its better looks. I guess. 🤷
@mistamaog Жыл бұрын
I expected the Civic to win, but I think the GR Corolla would've done better than it did in this video if it was at 50/50 power delivery
@alexandredufour7358 Жыл бұрын
No 50/50 is to much understeer
@Wdedeadpoolwlsn Жыл бұрын
@@alexandredufour7358incorrect
@alexandredufour7358 Жыл бұрын
@@Wdedeadpoolwlsn if you say so
@gaycha658920 күн бұрын
@@alexandredufour7358no, it has less and more neutral behavior as the SW fiddles with front diff to pull it into corners apex tighter without oversteer. I have had. AGR Yaris for 3 years in UK BTW
@KK-tt6ui Жыл бұрын
These are the videos we need, no silly mismatches that makes no sense to compare
@Toyota4Life Жыл бұрын
the Launch on that Corolla is not where it needs to be but good stuff
@Subpac_ww2 Жыл бұрын
I think the reason the Toyota, and most other cars in the segment, have launch RPMs so low is that they don't want a ton of warranty transmission and clutch claims in the first year of ownership. Aftermarket tunes can rectify your problem for a small cost.
@davidgriggs3967 Жыл бұрын
Looked like the civic R took 7 seconds to 100kmph , what elevation is this filmed at ? Dragy stat's would good it gives G forces 0 to 60 ,1/4 mile and elevation.
@carlstrohm3785 Жыл бұрын
Should have used a core with the diffs or a circuit. The Morizo has shorter gearing for track use.
@Marbind Жыл бұрын
The gap would be bigger. The tires on the core and circuit are lower grade.
@GERONIMO326 Жыл бұрын
CTR would still eat it, it's in an entirely different league.
@carlstrohm3785 Жыл бұрын
@@GERONIMO326 I don't know about "entirely different league" but it is faster around a track when both are stock. In the real world of crappy city streets though, AWD will help the GRC to be a better daily performer. I live where winter is no joke and our city is built on a hill. I'll take the GRC and four snow tires over the CTR every day of the week, especially Sundays 😉
@GERONIMO326 Жыл бұрын
@carlstrohm3785 the Type R on dry surfaces you would think was awd, due to how well it puts the power down. I own one, and it's pure magic. Plus, from my experience, if a front wheel drive car won't get the job done in wintery conditions, it's pretty darn bad, probably so bad you wouldn't be driving anyhow. On top of that, you lose 15% of power through drive train losses on the awd Corolla, so it is putting substantially less power to the ground than the CTR, but that's just my opinion
@carlstrohm3785 Жыл бұрын
@@GERONIMO326 I've owned most configurations of drive on vehicles (I'm getting old), rwd, fwd, 4wd, awd... and an awd is the best in the snow and hills where I live. Fwd and 4 snows is also good but not the best. Driven wheels at both ends, limited slip diffs being better, will always outdo either fwd or rwd in the snow. Period. I'm not discounting the CTR at all. It's an amazing car. I'm just saying for where I live and my needs, the GRC is better for me. I own a 1997 Prelude that I love for 3 seasons. It never goes in the snow though. They salt like crazy and I'm not going to ruin it. The Camary and snow tires gets me where I need to go most of the time. Not always the route I was planning, but I get there. When I had my Tacoma, I just went wherever I needed to. My rwd open diff Transit pretty much gets parked for the winter. Damn near useless. Enjoy the CTR. If my GRC ever gets here, I'll enjoy it year 'round.
@bryansiriban28712 ай бұрын
Gr is only 3 cylinder but is a fucking monster compare to that civic 4 cylinder
@searchBLOC941 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see those stacked up against my NA Acura TL SHAWD.
@AcuraPerformance Жыл бұрын
TL is too heavy lol. A 50 k roll maybe.
@searchBLOC941 Жыл бұрын
@AcuraPerformance that's what I'm saying. It'd be a really cool mashup.
@davidcobarruvias4185 Жыл бұрын
Motor trend Gr corolla 1/4 mile 13.7 Civic type r 1/4 mile 13.9
@Adam_Clegg10 ай бұрын
Is there a link to the leaderboard?
@robd1437 Жыл бұрын
Not sure if possible, but can't one switch out of AWD after launch? Dynos show a 10 to 15 HP drop from going AWD on the GR.
@Justaeuropeanman Жыл бұрын
Not possible
@nycmaverick Жыл бұрын
That Honda really is amazing.
@kashifa723 Жыл бұрын
You should do not only a driver switch but also a lane switch. So a total of 4 races for the most amount of data and fairness.
@Xchax3 Жыл бұрын
A circuit race would be more ideal for these cars since they are designed exactly for that. Great video nonetheless. The gearing here was not ideal for drag racing in defense of the GR Corolla Morizo. A Circuit Edition shines in a straight line against the Type R. The Type R, however, was not designed for going in a straight line.
@nickzarnetske9994 Жыл бұрын
I've heard of Si/Aspec guys launching in second gear since first is so short anyways, I wonder if that would have worked here (mechanical sympathy be damned) on the Type R? Either way, nothing beats a White ITR!!!
@SilverScarletSpider Жыл бұрын
alright credit were it is due, this was a very entertaining video. great work edmunds team. please do more affordable cars. Audi RS3 vs Lexus IS500 u drag?
@LafemmebearMusic Жыл бұрын
The RS3 and the IS500 cost quite a lot more than the cars in this video
@EP50009 Жыл бұрын
@@LafemmebearMusic not really that much more.
@ii_dynasty Жыл бұрын
Rs3 base is 61k, so about 16k more than a civic type r.
@afrikengunner Жыл бұрын
Was there ever a doubt though... the fwd king is the king for a reason
@Has2FlatRacing Жыл бұрын
Why do none of the drivers in awd cars with a real ebrake do a scandi flick to make the 180? Can all but guarantee that would be faster. The corolla even has the center diff disconnect so you don't have to clutch.
@HeroicHorizon Жыл бұрын
Just came across you guys...would love a U drive between Honda FIT RS vs Suzuki Swift Sport. Whole race would take a minute 😅
@seekingtruthnotfindingany7301 Жыл бұрын
The Corolla did win off the line and that's were the advantage stops for AWD. The Honda Civic will be the next James bond car!
@ericinfante1885 Жыл бұрын
Is this allistar from dangerville youtube channel?
@Crankwalk2688 Жыл бұрын
Best way to launch the GR is off the rev limiter, in 60:40, with expert mode on. I have a Circuit Edition and if you're looking for absolute best results no matter how harsh on the car, that's the way to do it.
@karmahunden Жыл бұрын
KONA N would kill that Corolla Chorizo. Would still lose to the CTR, tho.
@VaunShiz Жыл бұрын
Thats limited run edition GR Corolla to when thats the standard Type R you can find at any dealer.
@sutats Жыл бұрын
It's all about the power to weight ratio.
@rjaybruhh Жыл бұрын
*_Vtec kicked in 🥹_*
@shaunmckenzie2626 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately pretty much any AWD manual needs to be launched in a certain way to get the full potential. If the Corolla was launched correctly, then it would win every time in this race. I have one and can consistently get 13.4-13.5 second 1/4 mile. 1 second quicker than in this test...
@JG-mg3if Жыл бұрын
At what RPM do you launch and what mode?? Still breaking in my GR 😊
@shaunmckenzie2626 Жыл бұрын
@JG-mg3if between 5-6k rpm. Sport mode, traction off. Torque split doesn't seem to matter but I put it in 50:50. Best 1/4 I've managed is 13.25, street surface, no prep.
@JG-mg3if Жыл бұрын
@@shaunmckenzie2626 Thanks 👍🏽 I’ll keep that in mind..
@yucolin3876 Жыл бұрын
Traction needs to turn off by holding it 3 seconds
@kevinb5717 Жыл бұрын
How about a match between new 2024 mustang gt vs 2023 mustang gt?
@tunerimports Жыл бұрын
So I used to race a CRX SiR, I enjoyed this but would like to see how the gearbox is myself as the shifts were a little slow imo…. Also you can break later making sure to set the cars up for the turns. But still entertaining.
@rmp5s Жыл бұрын
These are the BEST!!
@ericmichel3857 Жыл бұрын
The Type R sold for sticker price? That is not what we have been hearing, can they confirm?
@anthonysaquatics4359 Жыл бұрын
Can you please Udrag a camaro ss 1le?
@chrisvalleqatsi Жыл бұрын
Have you done a U-Drag with a Hyundai Kona N?
@R6Dave11 Жыл бұрын
Much better than a standard drag race. These cars take off like they are towing 3000lbs. They look so slow on a big strip like that.
@romper44449 ай бұрын
This is the morizo too with the extra torque and better tires, I figured the core base model would loose to a type r but not the morizo! Honda always takes it to Toyota since the beginning!
@ericvermeulen9853 Жыл бұрын
As a GR Yaris owner, best launch is 70 front 30 rear , putting power more to the rear wil bog the car burn the clutch
@solonfroilan897 Жыл бұрын
Love both cars I’d get both if I could.. but if I could only choose one it would be The Type R in red
@roberts.wilson1848 Жыл бұрын
You should put in a tesla model 3 LR in this mix because of the price being right in there., Or if you want, the SR version that has little under 300hp
@nippon_san4 Жыл бұрын
That Honda is such a weapon , Honda power undeniable.
@bryane2857 Жыл бұрын
God if I was in my 20s again that type R would be mine. I'm 57 now😊
@PoopLasagna Жыл бұрын
Never too old
@BlackjackK7X Жыл бұрын
@@PoopLasagna💯
@Marbind Жыл бұрын
Integra Type S entered the chat
@chrissimmons9969 Жыл бұрын
I’m 61 and just bought a CTR. I have no regrets and I’m having a blast. I spent my whole driving life in “family” cars like SUVs & sedans and once the kids were all out doing their own thing I went out and bought me a little race car.
@josephsmith594 Жыл бұрын
Check out the Acura TLX.
@DjNikGnashers Жыл бұрын
Love the format of these videos. I think my tuned M140i would destroy both of these by 2 seconds to the U turn, then wobble around it so badly both cars would overtake me lol 🙂