What We Learned After Testing a Cadillac CT5-V Blackwing Over 40,000 Miles | Car and Driver

[@CarlosLago]

Thanks for watching! Happy to answer any questions you have about the car or our testing process. Read more about what happened with the engine: www.caranddriver.com/news/a40992058/cadillac-ct5-v-blackwing-engine-failure/

[@0HOON0]

What caused the lean condition according to GM?

[@CarlosLago]

@@0HOON0 they had a couple theories that are outlined in the story linked above, but unfortunately there was no definitive cause

[@0HOON0]

@@CarlosLago Thanks. I remember reading the article in C&D. Epic car. Wouldn't be surprised if they eventually develop a cult following.

[@CarlosLago]

@@0HOON0 sign me up for that cult

[@rohitrahangdale8223]

I’ve heard the car being described as a 4 series in terms of size and feel. Did you feel like the car felt heavy? Similar to M5 in terms of heaviness? Or was it nimble? Like an M3?

[@nicholasbeimer9411]

I have a ‘23 CT5-V Blackwing with the manual and it both scares me and makes me smile every time I drive it. A cold start with the exhaust in track mode in a concrete parking garage is so rowdy. Love this car!

[@sleepeatdrive7619]

Has it been reliable?

[@kcchiefsgirl7026]

Can't wait

[@susanbishop-o9p]

I need to take my ‘22 CT5-V manual to a concrete parking garage. What devine fuuuuunnnn🎉🎉🎉

[@coryw.9086]

The only sedan currently for sale I really want right now. I cannot believe I’m saying this about a Cadillac! My grandpa would be proud.

[@CPAJayhawk]

They’ve been building sedans like this for nearly 20 years

[@Niffdaddy]

Mine too. He loved his Cadillacs!

[@bugzy0530]

Lmao I bought your car from a dealership in Texas… damn good to see the history behind the car and it’s miles 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@LafemmebearMusic]

I hope they see this comment

[@bugzy0530]

@@LafemmebearMusic hopefully they do .. That would be great 🔥

[@markdafunky1]

Hope you got it for a good price considering the car experienced some “interesting” moments

[@jameswillard1]

@@bugzy0530that’s really cool! …did you know the history of it when you bought it and was it a good deal? Was the Carfax clean from the deer strikes?

[@bugzy0530]

@@jameswillard1 car fax showed clean no record of the deer hit but it shows work was done on the car .. I assume since it wasn’t an auto accident and through insurance it still shows clean car fax.. car drives great and I did bring it up to the dealership they then CPO the car

[@ryb2189]

I saw this beast of a machine with an old lady driving it at Costco and I was smitten how beautiful it was, man what a machine.

[@stravis3269]

Old timers love caddy. They are not what used to be. Lead sled

[@313soldier313]

Probably a CT5 non blackwing. They look remarkably similar

[@fivespeed3026]

@@313soldier313You never know, some of these little old ladies have lead feet.

[@Papolucho702]

@@fivespeed3026 yeah my mother in law has a lead foot

[@alexklein455]

​@@313soldier313no they don't. They look unique.

[@brownmantravels1993]

I worked on this car and glad to have been a part of it's successes (mostly ;) ) !

[@ernestomorales2487]

360 miles on a tank of gas is great! For that kind of car is more than acceptable.

[@WinfieldGHill]

I didn’t hear if that was the range while driving on a highway for an extended trip. If it was there average range/tank, that is great. Around town driving is more like 210 miles of range.

[@carguy7627]

While I'm not in the market for this type of car I'm glad that it exists. Having a manual option used to be a given and now seems like a rarity. If I were in the market for a big sedan I would definitely consider this.

[@stravis3269]

These manual trans gears grind over time without double synchros on each gear. Poor manual trans . I own a caddy 6 speed

[@CPAJayhawk]

As long as you’re good with a $2K+ monthly payment if you finance lol…

[@hieuluu2]

In our Multi-Verse, you can get a manual in a Cadillac and only an automatic in a Corvette.

[@captainamerica9353]

I've never seen much point in two-seater sports cars anyway but would absolutely take the manual Caddy over an auto 'Vette.

[@evanescent0311]

I absolutely love the ZO 6 and how it drives on the street in track… The auto transmission on the track is honestly a preference with speed being a priority and avoiding a money shift. A manual to enjoy on the street would make Z06 on another level.

[@ericervin4778]

Caddy is now more recognized as a high-performance car company than a luxury car company. I often forget that there's non-CT5 and CT4 V-series models.

[@rtcturnemup7028]

In your humble opinion 😂 I wouldn’t say they are more recognized for performance.

[@ericervin4778]

@@rtcturnemup7028 LOL. They're more recognized for high performance now than for luxury. 😀 I'm just saying.

[@rtcturnemup7028]

@@ericervin4778 because of their sport trim models ? Lol the lyric,xt6,xt5, regular Escalade are all known for luxury. Only 3 vehicles are known for sportiness

[@ericervin4778]

@@rtcturnemup7028 Dude, when most people think of Cadillac now, their V-Series comes to mind. That's just the way it is now. I'm 45. When I was growing up, when Cadillac was mentioned people equated it to luxury. Not high performance. Deville, Seville, Fleetwood, Allante, Eldorado. Most of folks have no idea what a Lyric, XT6 and XT5 are. For the longest, the Escalade has been keeping the lights on. And it's no where near regarded as a luxury symbol that Cadillacs of yesterday were. At one time, Cadillacs were priced more than Benz models. Anyway, good day.

[@rtcturnemup7028]

@@ericervin4778 lol the cars I’ve named are very well sellers. Surprised ppl don’t know about them lol

[@db58]

I have not seen one review of this car without the driver giggling. That's really all I need. The rest is just a bonus. Why not have a car that is so fun in makes you giggle?!

[@dampergoldenrod4156]

what an intelligence way to evaluate a vehicle.

[@susanbishop-o9p]

I am addicted to my manual CT5-V Blackwing. So darn satisfying to drive.

[@wackit6756]

Really enjoyed all the photos of the places in the U.S. that this car traveled. The input from your editors/drivers was great.✌️

[@lm1314]

I was hoping for picture of the Gateway Arch since map showed going through St. Louis, but alas, no.

[@6speed_Yukon]

A true Masterpiece from Cadillac and my future car.

[@thesearch9048]

What an amazing machine! Not so sure I would be as forgiving of it blowing it's engine if it were my $100K, though.

[@corystansbury]

I don't disagree, but I think we also have enough historic context to know that's a pretty rare event. I imagine at least one market exec was in the "if I wasn't laughing, I'd be crying" stage, given the overall reliability of the LT platform.

[@gigi9467]

An engine blowing up is totally unacceptable

[@b286guy]

Damn deer! 🦌

[@superspeeder]

I read the article, which was inconclusive but identified certain things they looked for but did not find. This could have been something as simple as a failing O2 sensor or bad fuel injector harness ground if the whole cylinder bank had issues. The result of a small problem can be a catastrophic engine failure on modern engines, which rely on more electronics than moving parts.

[@DaBrute]

Knowing my luck, if i bought one these the engine would probably blow up too.

[@kirks06G35]

Great video I ordered my CT5 V BW almost exactly the same minus the seats and my was electric blue but mine never arrived after 18 months my order was canceled something to do with carbon fiber sacristy, now I have start all over finding another. Thanks for reviving my love for this car, maybe I can still own one someday.

[@melondoc]

To everyone making a comment that they wouldn't own a CT5-V Blackwing out of warranty because BMW, Mercedes etc. are so much better built and more reliable out of warranty... ????? LOL ?????

[@95mushroom]

Its been this way for 25 years. Fault GM products for things the entire industry is guilty of. I'm surprised the idiots in the comments haven't mentioned depreciation yet (which they would be wrong again on).

[@LafemmebearMusic]

As an owner of bmws I gotta say, thats silly and wild these folx are saying this. You know and accept certain things when you buy German cars and keep them past warranty… I’ve always had an extended warranty…

[@rdollie1]

I have a CT5-V Blackwing and a M3 (had V3 CTS-V for a few years also.) Unquestonably the case that the LT4 is more reliable and cheaper to fix if somethng breaks. Not even close. BMW makes a better luxury car and Cadillac makes a better driver's car. Can't wait to see the new '25 interior for the Blackwing and maybe grab one.

[@jameswillard1]

Exactly spot on 😂

[@M-PASTA]

I read a lot of the comments and none of them said “out of warranty” nice try tho 🤣

[@santinosonny4047]

1st stop of the day Gas station ⛽️ Last stop of the day gas station ⛽️ Best car i ever owned this thing is a rocket wish me luck on the roads you risk jailtime every drive 🚀

[@ArabianOak]

i had an m8 comp before I bought my blackwing...i got news for everyone, the blackwing blows it away! no regrets.

[@Stol3nXDrive]

I’ve seen the videos haha

[@bruschmidt9943]

The 6 speed manual isn't an option, it's standard. The 10 speed auto is the option.

[@ZeGermanHam]

To the C&D video production team: The music constantly playing over the presenter is really frustrating. Please dial it back and use music more selectively.

[@benchracer2171]

Thank you for the faces behind the wheel (vlog), it's a nice touch especially the lady passing the caravan of RVs

[@phil9711]

My 2022 CT5-V Blackwing is going through this exact problem. I only have 14,500 miles on the car and it's in the shop now waiting on a new motor. But this isn't the first time it has been in the shop since owning the car for only 14 months. I've had to replace the alternator and water pump, with these two parts failing the car had to be towed, once being on the side of the highway. And I've had to replace a catalytic converter, and the rear differential already. This brings us to the latest visit to the dealer where it is now waiting for a new motor because a spark plug failed causing the misfire and damaging the engine in the process. I've also seen a video of another Blackwing misfiring on KZbin because of a failed spark plug. I'm already in the works on getting GM to buy the car back under the lemon law and I expect more people to follow. I love this car but the headache from all these major failures has taken the excitement out of owning this car. Every drive I'm looking at the dash expecting a warning message. I know what they say about owning the first year of a new model but since the engine, transmission, and suspension have already been used numerous times in a number of GM models I took a chance. There's a problem with these engines and GM is going to have to address it soon. Good Luck to anyone who owns this car and is planning on owning one.

[@1dawoo]

I have a 2022 as well no issues 10k miles

[@jaredhuang2225]

This is the pinnacle of American sport sedans. Thank you Cadillac for having the cahones to give it a manual (ahem C8).

[@Benayahu223]

This is the most comprehensive review I have ever seen, thank you so much for this!

[@TheBucketOfTruth]

I rarely watch these, but it was wholesome to see the nice farewell trip it was able to go on. I wish I could help with something like that! Truly a 3 season car as you say, but I can't imagine a better car for fun but also for eating up that many miles around the U.S.

[@thiosemicarbizidebenzoylal2921]

The car and the testing are simply unbelievable.

[@doronc.5297]

Love the CT5-V Blackwing!! End of a era! Wish I could afford one, but can only dream of ownership! Well done C&D maybe one of you will buy the 40k mile tester at the end!! Kee up the great work! Really enjoy your content

[@mikezerker6925]

Amazing car… will be worth a lot more in the future, as manual V8s are a dying breed!

[@vinny2474]

I have a 2023 CT4-V (not blackwing). But i love it. I'm not used to the 325ph and 380 lb ft torque. It's fast for me. I'm really enjoying it. It has 95% of the features the blackwing does. Except the supercharged v8 of coarse . But its great :) Great video

[@superfast30]

Love the Blackwing. Looks gorgeous and is an absolute weapon!

[@chrisg2779]

Zoltar!!!!!! These things look so much better in person. Pictures and video don’t really do it justice.

[@panagiotisf7228]

My engine went on on my lt1 camaro, new engine for 40k miles with mods has been fine its a unicorn of an issue tbh anything can happen to anyone my so called reliable toyota has also had issues like the diff going out. Ive driven the camaro in winters with blizzaks upto 8 inches of anow in nyc did fine just drive normally.

[@beekaye1496]

Truly my next sedan

[@ctblackwing56]

Awesome review C&D! What color blue is that? Gorgeous! I have my Midnight Steel Metallic ‘23 CT5 BW manual since June..what a car! Heading to Vegas soon

[@CantThinkofaCoolOne]

What a lovely looking vehicle.

[@bugheman]

655 HP and a manual --> comfortable for seating for 5 and good looks? Matching C8 corvette or better performance? I know that its expensive however for 100K what can you get for that price point (that seats 5)? Corvette/Viper/911/McLaren/BMW M5/Audi RS is more expensive!

[@navseal345]

Ok... those winter rolling shots, 😍!

[@Billybobthor]

Your video did the car justice. Well done.

[@theeric]

First, the CT5-V Blackwing is bada$$. Second, after all the damage to the engine & body, I will give you $5 thousand dollars for it right now. Third, hire me as a driver. Great video.

[@DadDrivesBad]

What a dream job to drive across this beautiful country in such a beautiful car.

[@geoffreystearns1690]

I have reached the same conclusion about my 2012 CTS-V Sport Wagon (6-speed manual). Insanely fun to drive in a daily driver and all at only 554 hp! But I'll keep the Wagon, thanks; Cadillac has priced the Blackwing out of my range as a fixed-income retiree.

[@YouTuber-jz5nd]

This car is the automotive equivalent of the F-15. American through and through, and absolutely dominant proving that lest anyone forget, when America puts their effort and mind to it, we will produce something that will take on all contenders, and win.

[@chrish8487]

I truly admire GM for putting a supercharged V8 with a proper MT in a pseudo-luxury in a sedan. However, blowing that engine at low miles is quite troubling...

[@quocanhphanho8969]

Really like this new mixture of different types of shots in this edit!!

[@ElricX]

These cars are top of my wish list. Now I just have to win the lottery!

[@leotam3372]

So coating the blades removes some steel performance properties? (Because of the hotter tenpering temperatures?)

[@TML34]

GM on engine: "we've never seen this before!" Sure GM, sure. 🤣🤣

[@BobbyC777x]

I hate to be a cynic but had the same thought!

[@joefries7046]

if you listen to what carlos says, it ran lean. So wasnt actually mechanical failure but a fuel failure, maybe bad fuel or the tank was low when cornering hard. Be hard pressed to find an engine like that to not detonate itself with no fuel. Also be hard pressed to find any new vehicle model that hasn't had failures

[@BobbyC777x]

​@@joefries7046 shouldn't there be a CEL/MIL if a bank ran so lean as to melt a piston?

[@joefries7046]

@@BobbyC777x im not sure, not that i know of. When i worked at a toyota dealership we had a customer with a supercharged tundra pulling a car trailer up a steep hill on a hot day and he ran 87 octane fuel with an octane boost, he detonated the crap out of it and melted some pistons and one of them had a hole in it, he said there wasnt a check engine light or anything until it pretty much wouldnt run. Ive seen it happen on a 5.0 coyote to. Im starting to wonder if someone put low octane in that cadillac and they were afraid to admit it. who knows tho.

[@dextersmithbsee]

Exactly. I'd say take this heap of junk back!!

[@alexpaic2984]

Not sure what the deal is with these but is not the first one I hear with engine issues. When I went to spring mountain in Pahrump there were two guys there with engine problems in that class was like 25 people or so. I’m glad I went with the twin turbos instead of the supercharged but these are not perfect either but nothing really is. This being said these cars are absolutely amazing in every way to the max and I feel so lucky I experienced the supercharged on the track at it’s best and happy I experience the tt on daily basis.

[@bugheman]

@0:39 very short fuel range? its got 600 HP how much range do you really think you are gonna get?

[@blkwng81]

How reliable are the engines overall in the ct5v blackwing?

[@jetro7349]

Great if they don’t blowup. Lean issues and oil pump issues.

[@ChavaYang]

This is the car I want when I graduate from xray school! 🤤🤤

[@DaCocoBrova]

I still want one of these. Larger wheels with the proper offset for additional concavity...chef's kiss!

[@davidpaul7269]

The most wonderful vehicle ever manufactured, pure love, if you have the money I implore you to buy one! Greatest purchase I ever made (other than my wifes engagement ring blah blah blah lol)

[@bruschmidt9943]

I've driven a CT5-V for the last two years & find the Magnetic Ride Control firm to very firm. Even in Touring mode, you don't get a "comfortable" ride like a luxury sedan. Given that, the ride is extremely well controlled, balanced & taught. It's not "soft" by any means. I love everything else about this car. Owning performance cars all my life, I'm not unhappy with the V-Series. I'm just stating you don't get the ride they claim.

[@toothrestorer6588]

Coming from high performance cars, I think the ride is amazing. Honestly the ride is better than my wife’s XT6 with 20” wheels.

[@TheBTG88]

I see that your first driver stopped at the Saratoga Springs Auto Museum in my home town!

[@jeffjohn9898]

Is the trunk big enough to fit an elk carcass in for my next hunt in Wyoming?

[@S58b58]

My 2023 Camaro zl1 blew its engine this week with 2,500 miles on it driving to work. It’s stock, not been tracked and has the same lt4 engine as the black wing. I have own 3 new zl1 and 2 Camaro SS 1le since 2018. Never had a problem absolutely reliable on track and flawless. But now my current one was built recently when the workers were Pre strike. So just a guess but disgruntled worker’s quality control was not there leading up to the current strike.

[@frankkeel8410]

No THERE quality control has gone backwards

[@roninbushito]

Rubbish

[@robertsole9970]

I have its little brother, a manual CVT4 V Blackwing and its a great car. I traded a 911 C4S to get it, I got tired of the expensive upkeep of the 911 plus all the douche bros in STi and ITRs that always wanted to race me. The V can and will spank both of them easily.

[@tonyrhoton6613]

Nothing worse than a punk wanting 2 race u cause they no your car fast

[@adrianedwards1668]

Did you have an upgraded brake package?

[@ericervin4778]

I wouldn't feel right not releasing the gas pedal while shifting, even if the car allows me to do so. I'll still be afraid that I'm f--king something up!!!!! 😀

[@ctg311]

You have to mash the gas pedal for the no lift shift to operate smoothly. Otherwise, there's this weird medal clicking sound from the transmission and a big jerk😅 Then again, whenever you do that with this car, you are definitely over the speed limit

[@ericervin4778]

@@ctg311 Oh, ok. I'll just shift the good old-fashioned way. LOL.

[@2001chevycamaross]

i have a ct4 blackwing and do it everyday it isnt wet out. GM has been programming it into some of their cars since 2008 or so

[@ericervin4778]

@@2001chevycamaross oh, ok.

[@calesticall128]

Thank you for F-Cadilac people highlight in shoot and gun.

[@thelonedart916]

Is there no backup camera standard on these?????

[@hottub2249]

Nice touch in the end to showcase parts of the road trip! I wish GM/Ford would do a better job of interior fit, finish and trim.

[@chuckgrenci6404]

Stay tuned, the new CT5 gets a refresh with a new stunning IMO interior.

[@retrocompaq5212]

i rather have a decent drivetrain and driveability than a decent interior, uk cars are a great example of how garbage a car with a decent interior can be

[@Furious321]

​@chuckgrenci6404 I mean it's just a gauge cluster & infotainment update, unless the BW gets some special interior treatment elsewhere.

[@srtv8or109]

🤔How do they get rid of them when they are done the road test? Do they auction them off do they sell them privately

[@Furious321]

Apparently the new owner of this car commented here. Has a bunch of upvotes.

[@mrad.13]

Its beautiful.. really great video

[@lm1314]

Am i wrong to wish they would bring back the wagon? I see one by me and it is pretty and you know a sleeper car.

[@teds7379]

One of the coolest cars ever!

[@jetro7349]

The 4/5 blackwings would be 10/10 if it weren’t for the 1/2 premium 1/2 gm parts bin interiors. Hope they solve that with a midlife re-fresh

[@toofastnobrakes]

How well does this car fit a taller driver? 6’4”+?

[@jordanmascarenhas7974]

#SaveTheManuals Kudos to Cadillac 🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

[@dionb5174]

So did you send it back to GM? What do they end up doing with the car?

[@SM-yt8bs]

What is the music credit for the segment with the drivers' comments?

[@YeahYall]

11:14 Fort Sumter Monument. Downtown Charleston SC!

[@emjm9383]

beautiful car. more beautiful country tour. great video.

[@RageHP-RageHorsePower]

People that hate on this car yet go gaga for a hellcat when the caddy is miles better

[@brockmiddlebrook4396]

I have a 2023, the best fuel range I’ve gotten is 225 miles. Sometimes I fill up and it says “195” til empty. It sucks

[@sk8erz6721]

Why not get separate rims for winter?

[@murrieta49]

The C pillar is a huge problem for me

[@danziger69]

Best sedan out there.

[@frankkeel8410]

Why the grinding when cold?

[@quocanhphanho8969]

The American Swansong in the age of battery and hybrid vehicles flooding the market.

[@PoishPrince]

I'm sure that engine blew up because you guys are beating the hell out of it every day

[@losir7331]

What do you mean added a rear camera? It doesn’t come standard?

[@Furious321]

He may have been referring to the rear view mirror camera, or "Digital Rearview Mirror" as it's often called. Eliminates the back seat obstruction by using a camera mounted inside the shark fin antenna.

[@losir7331]

@@Furious321 that makes sense. Thanks

[@PaulGroney]

Sounds like some great deer hunting. What zip code was it?

[@Bobcat9]

The number one thing a driver can do to mitigate slips and slides, esp. in a RWD... is to have a manual transmission. There is an enormous amount of control that can be had with the clutch alone that is simply not matched on any automatic transmission, whether AWD or not. As a person who grew up and still lives in the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, all three of my cars are manuals and I will never buy anything different. Sure, modern autos are quick and easy to drive, but they're not safer, they're not easier to repair, and they're certainly more expensive to repair. Big deal, your paddle shifters shave milliseconds off shift times, but that's only useful on a racetrack. For the rest of us who never track our cars, better go with the manual.

[@ajbrown7245]

Man, how did I miss the signup sheet for this venture!

[@user-db2du6kx7s]

i really dont get it, i love manual transmission but def. not for my daily, its super annoying in traffic. When i have to go nuts, there are shift pads on the wheel, i really dont get it why manual is not fully dead yet. Even race cars (rally) have up/down shift.

[@richardmahoney9415]

Overall I think your complaints about the interior for a car with a six figure price tag but with the exterior looks and that engine with a manual I wouldn’t even care if the radio even worked lol or if the panels fell off the IP I’d still love it lol.

[@BobbyC777x]

Which of CD staff did this review?

[@AlexPaikadailovephotography]

Review AFTER 2 YEARS OF OWNERSHIP! I purchased my 2022 CT5 in August 2022. Saying that my experience owning this vehicle has been a nightmare is an understatement. Here are the list of major repairs/replacements I’ve had within 2 years of owning; Engine Head Gasket, Transmission Transfer Case, entire Transmission assembly, front Seat lumbar units, steering wheel boot, interior door trim panels, O2 Sensors, and so on. All of this has been replaced within less than 2 years of owning this vehicle. I had decided to purchase my first ever car from Cadillac as the brand stood for luxury and reliability. I put my hard earned money, and that too quiet a lot of it, towards this car. If I had known what I was in for, I would’ve went for Cadillac’s competition. It’s a shame because the CT5 is a very good looking vehicle and it drives nice. However the amount of Repairs and unreliability overshadows the whole experience. Looks can be deceiving! If you’re in the market for a new luxury vehicle, I’d take a one good look at this vehicle, admire its good looks, maybe even sit in it or take some photos and then proceed to purchase a German or a Japanese competitor brand!

[@malcomx8806]

How many miles will this car last?

[@f600stuff]

I have a CT4 V Blackwing. I couldn’t afford the CT5. I love my CT4. There are a lot of similarities in these cars behavior. This was a great send off video!

[@MikeyG003]

Your engine probably didn’t need replacing tho 😂

[@jetro7349]

There’s been more LF4 failures in the community than I care to see.

[@ThePilotGear]

Cadillac did a damn good job with this car. I feel like they probably outdid their German rivals at their own game. These things should only ever be spec'ed with a manual gearbox.

[@thecappy]

4 door vette.

[@camonly849]

Love this car! That engine issue seems like a fluke or something.

[@patrickcarlson1400]

What disappoints me is with Cadillac's AKG sound is fair at best but I'm use to a very high end sound system that in equipment cost is over $8,000 in a 2003 CTS with Focal's for the front and rear and 2- 12" Rockford Fosgate T1D212 boxed and ported being powered by Fosgate 1,500 mono block amp

[@bajaboy27]

Albuquerque NM is not 2,000 miles away from Las Vegas, that guy must've smoked some peyote or summint

[@marshalltito]

He went by the way of several national parks not I-40

[@deeyo1511]

LARLOS CARGO!! havent seen him since he was riding in a hellcat Charger with Johhny Lieberman.

[@JobyJoby-iw2wr]

'Break in' from my experience begins at 4k miles, with maximum benefit not manifesting itself until reaching the 20k mile neighborhood....

[@ayushmalpeddi2793]

Slightly better!?! 18MPG is amazing versus 15MPG. Now I am guessing that is because you guys had many highway miles.

[@Doctorj63]

What was the depreciation?

[@jameswillard1]

Ask the guy in the comment section above 👆 who bought it

[@cesarpdc]

35% off sales price

[@toothrestorer6588]

So far there is very little. unless mileage is high.

[@GethinJames]

Wish it came with AWD - That would make it the ultimate all season, weather and region car. Being up in the mid-west I could never do a RWD car as a daily.

[@CPAJayhawk]

It’s a joke they don’t … too much power for RWD to actually be usable … does not inspire much confidence off a red light … a stock AWD Kia stinger will give you all you want stop light to stop light if you’re not in a good tire and know what you’re doing