Uber vs Lyft Upfront Fare Comparison | Which Is Better?!

[@jeffelking1482]

You cant say that they are treating us as independent contractors because if you do not accept a trip request your acceptance rate drops and stops you from hitting the next level. I feel that they offer a trip with a price and if you chose not to accept it you are punished. How is this treating us as independent contractor?

[@ssunkite1]

The bottom line is that driver pay went down in comparison to past years. Everything else is smoke and mirrors.

[@jzajzz]

I get paid more per trip now..so that's not an accurate assessment

[@jzajzz]

My 1st trip yesterday $25.72 for 21minutes 5 miles . $1.75 surge. . that's way more than I would have received before upfront fares. Again clearly your statement is not accurate

[@ssunkite1]

@@jzajzz Do you consider the dead miles?

[@jzajzz]

@@ssunkite1 I don't take trips that More than 7 minutes away unless it's getting me to a better area. I'm in the city. Miles is not that much of a concern for me.. .. besides the dead miles would still be a concern for you before the upfront fares.

[@joshseely8350]

I get paid $15 for a 25 mile trip. I get paid wwaaaaaaaaaayyyy less. This is for Lyft btw

[@Forobins1]

Everyone must remember this basic fact, the profitability of both companies is largely dependent on reducing the percentage of the gross fares that the drivers take. They will never, repeat never, introduce a pricing system where the drivers make more.

[@d.fenestrator9529]

They actually did introduce a pricing system where drivers could make more in CA when they let them set their own multiplier. However, that no longer exists.

[@jzajzz]

I don't know why people keep complaining about fares..the biggest.. plenty of drivers make 6 figures in my market.. granted u have to hustle...but this is an entry level gig with a low barrier entry ...the actual biggest problem with Uber..is how they are manipulating the destination filter

[@vanzarockin]

@@jzajzz What is your market and are you talking Uber X? Are they grossing 6 figures or netting 6 figures, do you account for dead miles and what do you consider expenses? Expenses I account for are: gas, insurance, maintenance, depreciation, monthly car wash club, parking, and phone. I also account for all miles as I have the app on and take rides from the moment I pull out of the garage to my last ride, which is typically within a few blocks of where I live.

[@jzajzz]

@@vanzarockin Uber X in Boston. Although I havent reached 100k yet for multiple reasons .. I know it can be done here which is why I believe those guys. I'm pretty sure its gross but my point still stands ..as people tend to over exaggerate expenses. let me use an example with an exaggerated expense.. let's say you buy a barely Corolla for 20k for one year all your hard cost is in that car except for insurance, tolls and other minor expenses. Let's say you gross 110k subtract 20k .. that's still 90k better yet if you're worried about expenses just rent. I rented a Tesla and grossed $2600.. my cost for the rent+charging+ tolls was less than $500. -that's $2100x52 = 109k now let's subtract 19k for week off for vacation, holidays , subpar weeks, just not feeling like doing UBer .. that's more than 8 weeks worth of cushion .. you're still at 90k after expenses. Again .. even if it's less than that.. It's a low barrier to entry gig .. all you need to know is how to drive and have a clean background. And you have to drive when it's more lucractive .. weekends is definitely a must.

[@cbx360]

@@jzajzz no x make six figures

[@PicoFromTX]

Lyft doesn't give you all the info. It's deceiving. It gives you the mi and pay. But that's after you pick up the passenger. It doesn't give you the mi information TO the passenger. Just a time frame. Which is inaccurate

[@AndrewRed]

Yep. Pick up was to Denver Airport. I swore it said. 25 minutes all together. Pickup and drop off. It and 25 min to Airport. The drop off was about another 30. It was deceiving

[@PicoFromTX]

@@AndrewRed same scenario happened to me. All it took was one to make me realize wtflip they were doing. Definitely on purpose

[@brianbarnett1004]

I agree with everything you have said. I like that you brought up my concerns: 1) the up and down arrows are small and can be confused 2) Destination mode has a different screen 3) distance to passenger, in back to back rides, isn't from the point of drop-off, but instead from where you currently are. Not useful. I too turn off new requests after I accept a trip.

[@patrickasplund]

My hourly average went from. $32/hr to $27, with base pay being $27/hr to $24.50. I have 5 stars with a Comfort vehicle. Previously I used to do every long ride I could get. Now I'm lucky to get $0.70/mile AFTER pickup fee and time fee. Fml. I also don't have access to my pickup milage so I can't write it off on taxes unless I'm SUPER diligent about recording it (impossible at 2am when college kids are voice f***ing your ear drums).

[@freewillbeef8812]

I have found that I'm actually making the same if not more with upfront fare without the additional mileage to my car, and in a lot less trips. But here in Albuquerque I find that when I am on a trip and I get another request, the pickup time is from the drop off point, not from where I'm currently at. Also, the only time I don't see the drop off point is for The reservation rides. However, I find that I do decline a lot of rides because I don't recognize the streets, so going forward I am going to start turning off ride requests once I pick up a passenger so that I can see it on the map. I started driving for both Lyft and Uber at the end of 2018 and I've been solely driving for Uber since the pandemic started. Lyft wasn't offering me any bonuses or ride streaks or anything, and that was why I went with Uber because I do consistently get two bonuses a week. Not to mention Lyft does not surge in my city, but Uber does. (Though not often) With my recent experience with Uber, my trust in the company has completely been shaken and I will be switching solely to Lyft once we have the upfront fare. On Uber's website it clearly states that if there is a surprise or significant change to the ride that you accepted, such as getting stuck in traffic, that our ride would be adjusted accordingly. I have a screenshot of this just in case they try to sneakily take it down. Last week I was quoted $22 for a trip that would take 30 minutes in total. During the trip there was an accident in the middle of the freeway and that 30 minute trip turned into over an hour. Uber did not adjust the fare. When I contacted their "support" they claimed that was what I was quoted and would not adjust the fare. Just yesterday I was quoted $26 for a 30 minute drive to the balloon fiesta Park. During the trip the passenger adjusted the drop off location to the other side of the park as he was actually a balloonist and not a tourist. So it was essentially identical in mileage and time, yet Uber dropped the ride to $17. When I contacted "support", they would not adjust a fare claiming that was what I was quoted. After sometime on the phone with them they found that the original quote was the $26, however would not adjust the fare because the passenger updated the drop-off location, which again was not a significant change. And now this morning I got a message from Uber stating that starting Thursday we would now see these adjustments from the original quote and that an adjustment would only be made if we drive a lot more or a lot less than what was quoted. I also screenshotted this message in case they tried to sweep it under the rug. I no longer have any trust in Uber and I am screenshotting all of the initial quotes I am given before I accept the ride. Not that I think that it's going to change the fact that they are not going to help, but so I can provide it to you all if needed to show how Uber is frauding its drivers. (The edits that I made were only to correct, misspelled or wrong words.)

[@edmor127]

everybody and I mean everybody says that thier market is flooded with drivers...and I believe them......so if that is the case why do the apps send you 14 mins and 7 miles away to do a pickup.....something doesn't add up here....if the algo chooses a driver that is way closer is the fare really that bad?

[@MicDropBBQ]

That's because those of us that have been driving for years are making decent money, still. And all of the people that laughed at us like, "...you're just a damn Uber driver", are seeing us bringing home anywhere from $1,000 to $2,000/week - and it's taking them TWO weeks at their jobs to make it. Now they feel kinda stupid for laughing at us - so they're quitting their jobs and joining us. Laughing at us just made us drive with more determination to win. And there are weeks when I'll clear $2k in 40hrs. The same ones that laughed are like, "...so, when I start driving Uber, do I have to do this...this...that...and this?" LOL! Now our market is saturated with people who used to think driving was a joke. And now they're like, "...holy hell. I'm making $45/hr and I was crying about making $19 at my damn job." CASH is CASH, and if you're smart with cash, you're gonna do a lot of things with $45/hr when you couldn't do it with $19/hr.

[@ridesharerants6570]

There algorithms are complex. Uber doesn’t always send job to closest car. They income level drivers also. So even if your closer they will send the job to another driver 2 miles more because he/she hasn’t had a trip in 20 mins and you just finished one 2 mins ago. They also know that rider might be willing to wait longer. Uber tests drivers and riders. How long there willing to wait.

[@jmartinez9332]

They do that so that way it ends a three-ride streak. I noticed the third ride of the street is always ridiculous then conveniently after I declined it they give me one a mile down the road. They should have given me that other one in the first place and then find somebody closer to the other one. I believe this is done on purpose because it always seems like the long crazy ride to pick up comes before the short one to lose out on a streak.

[@1armyman4unow]

The algorithm sends the rides most of the time in my area Central Pennsylvania to the driver farthest away that way they can charge the rider more for the trip but the driver only makes peanuts more with long distance pickup time which pays 15 cents a minute after 11 minutes and long distance mileage pays 83 cents a mile after 6 miles. I have this happen to me daily I have a rider 1/2 mile away and 3 minutes to him but the algorithm constantly sends the ride request to drivers who are 6-7 miles and usually 14-15 minutes away instead of sending me the request first. I have a rating of 4.99 with a 90% acceptance rate. I have been at Diamond status for the last 2 1/2 years with over 7200 rides on Uber

[@vanzarockin]

@@1armyman4unow Uber does not care about treating high-rated drivers any better than those with low ratings. I am a 5.00 * driver and still get crap offers, pax with 4.39 ratings, long pick-ups (I drive in a city - there are ants everywhere) and all the rest of the garbage. There is no real incentive to being an outstanding driver with a high AR and low CR. I don't feel their platinum benefits are worth losing money for by taking crappy rides.

[@Rbl7132]

Starting tomorrow Thursday California is going to see a lot of people stranded with no drivers coming because now us drivers can see the crap before they put it in our mouth

[@mattb8754]

I've been online since for a couple hours here in California today and I'm still not seeing the trip details.

[@Rbl7132]

@@mattb8754 me neither. I've been waiting all night to see the first trip details. Knowing dara, when he says Thursday he means 11:59 p.m... he wants to squeeze every dollar out of us. Man when we see the trip details, Sooooo many riders will be stranded!!! And we drivers will begin to gain control again of rates. Dara will have to raise rates for drivers!!!

[@mattb8754]

@@Rbl7132 I messaged Ubers garbage support and asked why are they still hiding the trip details. Morons messaged me back about guaranteed earnings. I said that's great but it has nothing to do about what I'm asking you. Smh

[@Rbl7132]

@@mattb8754 Many uninformed reps. I believe it will turn on at any moment. It will be AWESOME!!

[@keithbronson9777]

@@Rbl7132 🤣🤣

[@timgerard262]

On the subject of Uber's destination mode, every time I use it to get home at the end of the day, Uber always tries to sneak in extra rides that don't actually get me closer, often it takes six or seven rides in destination mode and up to 2 hours to get me home.

[@1Marcometro]

What about the time lyft change rides middle of other ride.

[@MrPantheon117]

My biggest bone to pick with Uber's new system, is it doesn't always show the same information. Also in my market Lyft flat out pays more for the same ride, sans any bonuses. Now lately Uber has been giving me less downtime, so it unfortunately averages out to about the same. Bonus point, Uber has eliminated any way for you to know if they are slowly lowering what they pay you unless you put rides into a spreadsheet. This is not better, just different.

[@jaeshotz]

Just wish we had at least 30 secs to a min to accept a request

[@alh3206]

They are paying alot less with upfront details .. the other day during "non busy hours" they offered 42$ for a 71 mile ride in southern california. Before the changes they'd atleast offer 60$ for the driver. Who the hell would take that especially with > 6.00$ gas prices?

[@jaisonroberts8407]

Lyft won't ever tell the truth either picking up the passenger is further than listed or the drop off. Lyft also won't adjust the fare when they send you further. If they're adjusting the fare they're pocketing it for themselves. Uber has been spot on after I accept the passenger I turn off request so they can't bombard me into making a bad decision on a ride.

[@roycembutler]

There's nothing deceptive about the way Lyft does it, at least here in Atlanta. They still pay based on time and distance of the ride.

[@sheilastarlight2168]

I HATE the up front screen. I'm supposed to read all that information in a few seconds, while on a run, in traffic AND keep my eyes on the road? WTF??

[@deadbugdoug]

What happened to hands-free no distractions driving?

[@antoineone1391]

They have an auto-accept all trips option, but I will never turn that option on lol

[@bluechex7881]

Ever hear the term "gas lighting?"

[@myrideshareexperience5352]

In Dallas You will get a few dollars per mil rides and since now we don't get many information the trip prices are lower then before and airport trips are definitely a few dollars lower then before.

[@rprp1786]

But, Uber still count it against the drivers if you do not accept trips, so it still leaves Uber partnerns in state not being indepent drivers!!! Uber driving partners should not be penalize for not accepting rides!

[@hectorrodrig]

I understand exactly what you are saying... For me I too have that issue with Lyft to where they add passenger to your queue while still bringing the current passenger to their destination and after dropping off the current passenger, I have no idea where this queued ride is going. They could be a few blocks away or 3 dozen or more miles away. Cancel the ride they say but with too many cancelations you then take away out perks because now our acceptance and cancelation rate is too low to qualify for said perks, points etc.

[@NA-sw7iu]

I make alot more by being picky about which rides I accept. Acceptance rate is garbage so no reward perks but the amount I make more by far outweighs the reward perks they offer.

[@roycembutler]

Any queued Lyft ride you decline doesn't affect your acceptance rate. You may have to decline the ride before you end the current one.

[@hectorrodrig]

@@roycembutler Yeah that's good to know... LOL I meant to cancel the queue and forgot to do so before ending the ride and then had to cancel it after ending the ride.

[@hectorrodrig]

@@NA-sw7iu I understand but more so what I'm saying is that without those perks or certain points, don't you loose the ability to see the upfront info?

[@NA-sw7iu]

@@hectorrodrig I've heard that but in my market as far as I know I'm seeing everything upfront that they give. I definitely could be wrong but I think I'm seeing all info. I see how minutes to the pick up.(not in miles though) I see the destination and how many miles it is to the destination and time the trip takes. And of course I see how much the offer pay is.

[@Zetroc63]

I agree with all your points about Uber

[@raykazii]

Thanks. Excellent analysis. I didn’t work for 3 days and the new app appeared. Used it yesterday and kinda liked it. Your video explained it quite well.

[@shannonkjohns]

After reviewing my last 100 rides, I am seeing an average 15% deduction per ride with Upfront fares when compared to the rate card. Using the same rate card information with Uber, my deduction per ride is 4%

[@seanseay6506]

Need a 90% acceptance rate to see this on lyft (at least in my area), so that's a never going to happen.

[@Forobins1]

Today in Northern NJ, fuel surcharge was eliminated and BETA upfront trip info-destination, distance, time and map were made available but not pricing.

[@roycembutler]

Same here in Atlanta. I liked it much better when Lyft would just tell you direction and approximate time for the trip. The good news is the rate card hasn't changed. The amount for the time and distance of each trip is still the same here unlike when Uber started the upfront pricing and tanked the amount drivers are paid.

[@KevinPeterson506]

In my market, Lyft is ripping of drivers by 20% with Upfront Pricing. $42 airport run now pays $30 to $32.

[@andya9050]

Hi quick question in previous Rideshare Guy segments I was under impression you would not be penalized for not accepting rides under new system. Is that really the case as my Uber Driver app still shows % accepted and is tracking that metric!? Confused. Thanks

[@Wize817]

Exactly what I said. See Patricks comment above. They are punishing if you don't accept the flood of 💩$4 rides! Fubar

[@PicoFromTX]

I just realized. That's my Lyft screen shot 😂. Cool seeing it in a video

[@bluechex7881]

You gone big time.

[@Americanbullydillinger]

How can you see the price on lyft ? Does your acceptance rate need to be 90 percent

[@PicoFromTX]

@@Americanbullydillinger it's only in certain markets for now

[@Wize817]

@@PicoFromTX Thats not what he asked! 🤦‍♂

[@rickorozco306]

Lyft doesn’t show the time or distance on back to back trips what’s use of being a platinum driver and keeping my acceptance rate at 90% if it doesn’t show me that information

[@PeaceChanel]

Thank You Everybody for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste .. 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ 🌷 ☮ ❤🕊

[@kdlange6052]

Why has everything in this world increased but Uber keeps trying to be public transportation only reason I’m driving again is the upfront info and as of Thursday my market Orange County California no longer has a 5 of last 10 acceptance rate and they had been giving us a price range for the trip which was always in the middle but I’m sure psychologically people see the highest number

[@chicmechanic4060]

Lyft iss shutting down my app come. January 1st 2023. Says my car is to old. It's a 2007 Dodge Caliber. With 118 thousand miles. In excellent condition. They don't tell you this when your hired to drive.

[@charleswtuggle]

As for Uber there is not enough time to see the info on the screen while driving, 6 seconds is just not long enough. They need to increase the on screen time to 10 seconds.

[@robertorphe]

The pay has dropped off severely since this has started. I don't get no where near those upfront prices that were shown here. More like a 60 mile trip for $26... My @$$.

[@shannonharris]

Joe, come on bud... Upfront pricing may be a step in the right direction but we are still in a galaxy far, far away from being "true independent contractors"

[@Wize817]

Exactly. These RSG "drivers" are always toeing the line with their slavemasters hoping one day they will treat them like a true Indep 🤣

[@buckybarnes3803]

While I'm driving and an Uber request pops up, it's never at a good time and very distracting. Plus I always think they're giving me the crappy ones. With lyft it seems a little more planned out.

[@sergioceron4638]

I agree, is very distracting while you’re driving a passenger to his/her destination and requests keep coming, I just ignore them until I drop my passenger safe.

[@AndrewRed]

My lyft not showing my upfront pricing. Only time and distance. Colorado Market

[@michaelsabados3829]

Today I picked up a passenger at the airport - they paid $27. I drove 8mi to pickup, 15min - then I drove 14min & 6mi to drop off. I got paid $8.55 +$3 bonus. = $8.55/$27= 32%. I was paid 32% of what the rider paid Lyft. They’re paying me $0.705/mi & $0.24/minute - regardless of pickup distance & time or what the rider actually pays. And UBER does the same thing! They’re no longer showing what the rider pays either. (Oregon Driver).

[@MrNOAH504]

How can I send you some screenshots for Lyft? It's crappie in Atlanta. However it does in the pickup distance info here. Pay is horrible.

[@Bbbbbbbbbbb-f1w]

Why don't you talk about how many drivers have been murdered, raped, robed, and assaulted!!!

[@ethano9527]

I just got it for Lyft, but it doesn’t show upfront pricing. It’s great because I use to drive to the location and if I didn’t like the trip I would just cancel. The reason why I did this is because I live near the NY/NJ border and if I drop off in NJ I have to drive back to NY to pick up my next ride. No smart driver would ever take these trips. This is such a simple fix if they paid us 75% of the fare more drivers would take these bad trips. I wish Uber would do this in my market , because I hate Lyft.

[@luisdebritocabrita4420]

Driving in a no informations ahead, but pick up time and distance, rating and surge in an upfront pricing market for almost four years I have to say you have to be very picky, super extra picky if you have the earnings information. And expect more riders being mad about waiting times and dumping it on you.

[@donaldmaedel7973]

Lyft upfront fare comparison. Last night I took a ride for 17.59 miles it took 22 minutes and 18 seconds. My upfront fair was $12.73 without the surge bonus. If I would’ve been paid the normal rate distance plus time I would have been paid $16.82. So I was paid $4.09 less for this ride. I would not consider this a long ride. This is a significant loss of income. I did do a short ride 3.85 miles that took 9 minutes and 37 seconds And I was paid $5.77. The normal rate would have been $4.14. So I did make $1.63 more on this short ride. Not a big incentive to do long rides which used to be the best way to earn.

[@shingmingto]

Driverless cabs are on the way. The companies squeeze drivers more and more in the future. Quite driving SASP.

[@SleepingElephant]

Thanks for the tips and data comparisons.. norcal gets this on on the 29th

[@mattb8754]

I'm not seeing it yet. I've been online all morning. Everything is still hidden. I'm declining every ride until I start seeing the details

[@SleepingElephant]

@@mattb8754 yeah.. not showing.. I put on DF because it doesnt look updated yet

[@mattb8754]

@@SleepingElephant Figures. And on top of that they took all the promos away

[@mattb8754]

@@SleepingElephant I messaged ubers garbage support amd asked when will we see the upfront trip details that uber said would start today. They sent me a message about guaranteed earnings. Bunch of airheads

[@SleepingElephant]

@@mattb8754 might be live now

[@pollito1977]

I like this it keeps me out of the south side of Chicago don’t care to much about the money it’s all extra money for me

[@lisasoltero3873]

How come I still can't see upfront information for Lyft on my phone ?

[@gabrieldixon4594]

And for anyone that wants to know. For Uber all 30 minute rides are not 10 bucks in pay. I’m not sure why the pay is different for every ride but there you go.

[@staceybrooks1596]

I like the upfront fare unfortunately I am in the state of Indiana and they have not rolled out the upfront fare to us yet but thanks for keeping us up on info come on Uber we need this function too...

[@ellobo6969]

Lyft is no longer doing upfront pricing in Chicago , they did it for 2 days only

[@rapinncapin123]

Great vid Yeah those simple fixes will help a lot

[@sp96dominatesdom21]

Hi there, so no matter your acceptance rating you’ll be able to see how far or I should say the drop off location?

[@ts4231]

On Uber, my acceptance rating is 20%. I can still see everything about the trip. I won’t drive for Uber if this feature ever goes away. Some of the trips they throw at us are ridiculous. Saw an $8 trip that total time would take me 43 minutes today. Thank god I could see it and pass.

[@sp96dominatesdom21]

Thank you

[@OneMoreTacoTV]

Excellent analysis

[@blaznluke1]

I had the full map.i would pause.then turn off ride request.turn it on and boom 💥.

[@luis110613]

are you in texas or Minneapolis

[@mattb8754]

Anybody else in an area where uber was supposed to roll out this upfront pricing today and still not see the trip details? I've been declining everything wondering why the details are still hidden when I got a message from uber claiming upfront details were coming back today

[@unclebrew9536]

Experiencing same.Uber is a scam

[@SLVRFOX88]

Rolled in my area today so far I’m just sitting around 4 request in 2.5 hours I do get all the information upfront just not enough of them

[@mattb8754]

@@SLVRFOX88 Ya this is Garbage. Uber took away all the timed promos or whatever they're called and almost every request I'm getting is for a measly $4.63. Averaging 20-25 minutes including pickup and drop off. Decline, decline, decline.

[@Wize817]

​@@mattb8754 Exactly! 90% of requests are garbage since update $4-$5 trips no one should accept anyway. So far looking like another scam to get suckers to take a cheapie, don't be fooled! 😆👎

[@MultiThrashed]

Uber and Lyft setting prices still throws being an independent contractor for us in question.

[@dharris4244]

Driver make less money. Enough said.

[@checkoutmyplaylist]

Upfront pricing is not in the Atlanta market. You don't get mileage or anything doing Lyft.

[@JackJones-fg1jx]

In NY by law they have to pay us $27.00 per hour minimum wage. Drive like a snail and milk the clock.🎉

[@patrickasplund]

I used the app upfront fare feature to my benefit this week. I went from 97% acceptance rate, 3% cancel with 5 stars to 81% acceptance rate. Now the app won't let me get any hourly hot zone bonuses, so I'm stuck with base pay all week unless there is a surge. Anyone else have this happen? I'm in CT.

[@Wize817]

Wow that sucks. You answered my Q. They are punishing if you don't accept the flood of 💩$4 rides! Fubar

[@rustyg.7143]

Just take a screenshot before accepting the next trip, proceed to droop off the current rider, check if the next rider worth the ride by checking the screenshot of the ride and if dosnt worth it just cancel it 😅

[@sureshjayaprakash7110]

I drive Uber in Philadelphia but you ever imagine how much money they take from driver

[@XTudo22.]

They will never change or fix something to give us the power to choose rides!

[@freedom_aint_free]

It's amazing when you think that those rideshares companies after all those years still ain't profitable: they only make a net profit by taking money from investor on the stock market, if those guys are pumping big money every years in something that is not being profitable, they must know that it will soon, my hunch is: self driving cars with human level ability ought be kinda close.

[@mrsweetpeter8]

Lyft pay sucks compared to Uber in my location. It took me 2 hrs to earn 20$ with Lyft . It took me 2 hrs to earn 95$ with uber

[@w.davemorrison975]

Where is your video supporting the gig worker strike starting November 23rd? Step up for your followers

[@bluechex7881]

Destination filter penalty. What a joke.

[@zacharyg7131]

I thought driving ppl pays more than doordash.this pay is less than doordash in ca

[@treyy28804]

Not sure what is wrong with your lyft screen shot.. the lyft app is the same as uber. It give all information. Pickup and drop off time and distance.?? Why do you not have a screen shot of the actual real screen???

[@cc-tb3st]

Turns out lyft's a scam. Just got upfront pricing in Austin. 2nd ride was offered at 9.17 miles for $12.40. Route was not changes and actual distance was 12.2 miles. Pay did not change from the upfront price for the increase of 3 miles. So is 3 miles a big deal? No. But 3 Mike's is 33% of the original 9.17 miles offered. If they under quote miles by 33% then you can be quoted 1000 miles worth of rides but actually end up driving 1333 miles. So is not getting paid for 333 miles a big deal. It is when you drive 10,000 miles a month like I do. I have put 76,000 miles on my car in 6 months. This is a deal breaker for me. Support wouldn't address issue even with screen shots. Kept disconnecting me. Eventually just stopped trying to answer and just kept saying looking into it. 2 hours wasted. Not for 3 miles but for 33%.

[@kfneely1]

Not in California! They took away dest mode and if you drop below 5 accepted rides they take away up front details! Some changes are suppose to happen this Thursday but I am seeing everyone else in the country is able to decline requests as much as they want. However in ca there are always strings attached! So tired of these games Uber plays. 😡 EDIT: well will wonders ever cease!!! I turned on the app today and they took away the counter for the acceptance rate and the gave me back my destination filter!!! Maybe someone heard me after all lol! EDIT AGAIN: Yep it was a glitch they took dest away again! But I can still not accept trips I don’t want and not be penalized for it. (We will see how long it lasts but right now I love it!) now just give me my dest back and we good! Lol! Wishful thinking….smh

[@hectorrodrig]

So your acceptance rate goes down because you don't accept rides and the upfront info is omitted. Then you have to accept every ride so that your appearance ratio is increased. So after you can see where you don't want to go again and cancel rides then it's taken away again. Uber and Lyft seem to really care about this cat and mouse game that they've implemented.

[@kfneely1]

@@hectorrodrig I think we are being penalized because of the ab5 law that was passed that they had to spend a ton of money to fight. It seems that every time they do something new they always attach strings when it comes to Ca. I’m just so over the games that they play. If the dummies realized that the ONLY thing they had to do was take care of the people they would be seeing record profits. This is what happens when you get a bunch of tech people with egos to try and run a company that needs people and productivity to survive.

[@Jtlaptops]

@@hectorrodrig For those driving XL in CA as you say then you have to accept every ride so that your appearance ratio is increased for pick ups for like 5-10miles away ?? nah I'm good !!

[@Wize817]

No they didnt hear you, you just missed memo. Rollout was pushed live Thurs, probably just glitching 🤣 Now the real question is if they will punish you for ignoring all the new requests coming in? They still got Acceptance and Cancellations rating in the app 😆

[@MatrixTV1978]

It's total BS I hate upfront pricing. U er pushes it says we have no choice but to use it. They say make more informed decisions so you don't waste time on rides you do not want great... But what they don't say is btw you don't accept the ride we told you not to accept your acceptance rate goes down wtf .. I'm a 5 star Diamond driver in Las Vegas that won't last long we have had upfront pricing for less than a week and I'm already at an 80% acceptance rate for doing what they told us. Independent contractor my a ss 5star blue driver here I come 🤦‍♂️

[@Wize817]

Well finally someone else figured out. the obvious. Knowing that then why dont you tell all your Diamond buddies to work smarter not harder? Those rewards are for the sheep. Wolves always win.

[@bwet7850]

... 10 dollars for that many miles to transport people... something is way out of whack with that

[@MsJimmylau]

Drivers Uber /Lyft. The new upfront fare pricing is expected bidding as eBay. Collecting 100 dollars from riders and let our babies new drivers bidding starts from 20 . New babies drivers will accept for trip promotion Quest. Let Uber/ lyft scam more for wait time for rides than will throw extra dollars for drivers to accept those .b.s . The stystem scam more from riders less for drivers

[@cbx360]

Best scam companies in the world to Work for lol

[@joedriver2588]

"Treating us like true independent contractors", Really dude? Come on man. Independent contractors set their own prices. You hurt our cause as drivers in saying this, because Uber and Lyft will just use this as evidence in their argument in the current class action lawsuit against then. I'm so sick and tired of you guys kowtowing to Lyft and Uber. You are working for slave wages dude.

[@bluechex7881]

Independent is more than just prices. How about the right to self defense? How about getting real info about the passenger before picking them up?

[@joedriver2588]

@@bluechex7881 Indeed.

[@vanzarockin]

Absolutely! We are not being treated as independent contractors and these guys seem to be always bending over for Uber and Lyft.

[@moab9132]

One dollar a mile is nothing

[@huevosrancios1288]

Lol very sad soon we all gonna be evicted from cheap fares.

[@etiennerupian8543]

Both is better than nothing

[@Wize817]

You'll take it in both ends? 🤣

[@majinbuu19831]

Uber‘s upfront trip information hands-down is way way better than Lyft Lyft only gives us a directional line but Uber gives us not only a directional area but also it tells us the pick up location address and a drop off location address but Lyft don’t give us all that information left won’t even allow us to zoom in on the drop off area during the request so it’s no different from what they was offering before all they’re doing now is giving us a line that’s it that’s all