UMI Adjustable Torque Arm/Relocation Kit Install, Review + Testing!

[@Greenlightfilming]

If you have any questions about purchasing this product, reach out to UMI. They are great to deal with, and have always had great customer service. Let them know you saw the product on the channel!

[@peterfenter8800]

This might be a kind of dumb question, but I have an 02 ws6 that is cammed with slp headers and exhaust, and it came stock with the ls6 intake. It was dynoed at 400.95whp, and 385.5wtq. I am thinking of getting it retuned, and putting in new spark plugs. The guy before me installed the cam, and all he remembered is that it was a texas speed 228r cam with a lobe separation angle of 110. Is there any to tell if it's a stage 1, 2, 3, or 4 cam?

[@atarheelchamp199]

those 18s?

[@bradleylovej]

@@peterfenter8800 Here's a question I'm genuinely interested in, not trying to be a jerk. Why are people so interested in the 'stage' of their cam? Does it tell you something important about the characteristics of the cam? I always thought that it was just a container to put a lot of different cams in that had roughly similar characteristics but not the exact same specs. Like, a couldn't a 'stage x' cam have a wide variety of lsas, lift, duration, etc.? Wouldn't it be better to know the actual specs of your cam? It seems like the guy telling you it was a 228r with an lsa of 110 is a hell of a lot more useful than some broad category like a stage 2 cam. At least now you know the duration and lsa. Mostly what you're missing is the lift, and you've pretty much got your cam figured out.

[@roguereductionist8147]

No sound from 3 ish minutes to 14:14. All the important info dead silent...awesome.

[@Greenlightfilming]

@roguereductionist8147 it was all there, thank KZbin for that.

[@victorassivero1061]

HI, great video. Helps me with my decision on whether to do this or not. One problem that I doubt you are aware of. The sound on the video cuts off for me from 3:41 until 14:13, then it comes back fine like it started. So, basically missed what you said from the time you took the car out on the before test drive until you dropped it down to take it on the after. Any way you could reload the original video with all the sound intact?

[@2001pontiacta]

Thanks for posting, I have a 2001 Pontiac Trans am ws6 I bought when I was 19, I’m 38 now. Basically stock, a few bolt on parts and a new ls1 years ago and some bloody Knuckles, a few choice words I still love the car! You my friend just earned a new sub here!!

[@martinez1701a]

It is an awesome car isn't it, i have a 99 trans am ws6 convertible still needs a little work but so much fun to drive. Right now I have the LS1 sitting in my garage it ate a few bearings and some of the crank but I did build a cammed LM7 with ported 862 heads and flat top pistons to take its place ill probably build the ls1 one day to throw back in the car or just go with an LQ9.

[@1_slow4.89]

Man I love the fbody content, I just picked up a 98/z28 6 speed a few months ago and I’m learning a lot from your videos

[@Greenlightfilming]

Good deal, happy to hear they are helpful!

[@pontiacperformance1993]

This will be my next major mod on my car grips well already but I can noticeably feel the torque flexing the stock arm

[@armith]

After the drop with the strano spring kit I got the adj Panhard, adj LCAs, and LCA relo to keep things centered. SFCs and torque arm with relo is next up on suspension. Though Headers/Y pipe is really winter project goal. I have been impressed so far with the UMI products as well.

[@Greenlightfilming]

You're going to really like the Longtubes/Y-Pipe over the stock stuff. Itll pick up some power for sure. I'm a fan of UMI's line of products as well. Can't seem to go wrong.

[@Bking7string]

Does your adjustable torque arm hit the floorboard tunnel since you're lowered?

[@transam4555]

Man the more I see your videos especially after the video on the weld wheels I fall in love with my trans am all over again. Great video I'm glad that you installed this torque arm along with a relocation bracket, that's a future project I need to accomplish.

[@Greenlightfilming]

Thanks bud, I'm glad I got it done too! Finally starting to get some free time after all of the chaos of moving and a new addition to the family. The Welds really make the car for me. I was starting to grow a little tired of it to be honest. I love it all over again!

[@xekret]

Not sure how much an LS1 F-Body is in your area but here in AZ they are in the $7k and up range and really hard to find.

[@smilypega43]

Would having a shorter torque arm be better or would it not fit if using a aftermarket exhaust system? For example part number UPI-2200-R

[@Jayreynoldss]

Do you have a shim under the transmission? If so what size is it and what does it do? Won’t that change the pinion angle?

[@lewisfoltz6306]

When setting pinion angle, full vehicle weight needs to be on the wheels.

[@kareemrichards8635]

Wow, amazing car, amazing sound. Love the videos.

[@Greenlightfilming]

Thanks man, appreciate it! The car sounds pretty good so far.

[@sucapizda]

Perfect time for this vid. Im just about to do the same thing on mine. Just waiting for the Moser arm to come in. Do you have urethane engine mounts by any chance? And what do you think that clunking is under the centre console the you have??

[@Greenlightfilming]

I have the factory rubber engine mounds as far as I know. The "clunking", is just a little noise I hear now that the torque arm is mounted to the chassis, not the transmission tailshaft. It's not bad, and totally tolerable.

[@AlejandroGonzalez-mb7lu]

Watching this vid even though it’s old lol! I have the umi torque arm in the passenger seat

[@michaelslack6891]

Great videos man! Is that a poly transmission bushing that you run? I am doing the exact same torque arm cross member install and wanted to get your preference on that bushing and and your engine mounting bushing as well. Thank You For Your Time

[@Greenlightfilming]

As far as I'm aware, the engine mount bushings are factory rubber ones. The bushing that holds the snout of the torque arm is polyurethane. Theres more noise with the tunnel relocation as well.

[@maldo72]

nice firebird great review and great content .. I am looking into something like this for my project car .. and had to sub to your channel for more content ..

[@Greenlightfilming]

Thanks, appreciate it! There's more coming on the car for sure. Stay tuned.

[@peterfenter8800]

I've got a 2002 ws6, I've got the UMI 3 point subframe connectors, and torque arm, definitely tightens everything up a lot. My weak link is probably the suspension right now, super comfortable, but kind of boaty. I've heard a lot of guys use bilstein shocks, and lower them.. I'd also like to get black wheels. I love the look of the miro 101's I just wish there was a way to get them wider like 10 or 11 inch diameter

[@Greenlightfilming]

My car is lowered with bilstein shocks. Overall I like how it rides on the setup! You'll notice a big difference with tubular rear stuff, especially if your bushings are shot too.

[@martiniusetihw]

Great job brother!!! I am late with the response. I wasn't just looking at my torque arm just this weekend. Thanks for the info. Your car never loos bad. I thought I hear you say you have 315 (width) tires on the back. Is that right??

[@Greenlightfilming]

Yes, the rear tire is a 315

[@martiniusetihw]

The tires fit without any modifications Right?

[@markrodriguez5638]

Seeing that you are lowered, did you have any issues with the TA hitting the tunnel or the driveshaft yoke?

[@Greenlightfilming]

The torque arm definitely hit the tunnel between the rear seats.

[@markrodriguez5638]

@@Greenlightfilming How did you end up fixing the issue? Ive tried both sets of holes but now I run into driveshaft yoke clearance. Thanks!

[@travisquintero8334]

Man every time I watch your videos involving your Trans Am... Makes me want to take mine out for a spin 😀... And those rims look awesome on the TA... I'm going to have to be a copycat ... Have you had any issues with the tires rubbing on the fender wells? As always great and thorough video the torque arm and subframe connectors are next for my car..

[@Greenlightfilming]

Thanks for the feedback, appreciate it bud! I've had no issues thus far eith rubbing. That being said I haven't done any autocrossing. Just some "spirited" driving. Theres a good inch on each side of the tires so I think itll be ok?

[@williammercer6905]

Man that T/A is beautiful! Does the video you posted on the wheels have the wheel and tires sizes?

[@Greenlightfilming]

Yes it does

[@scottzito4797]

What size rims and tires are you running?

[@RootsandTendrils]

Excellent work, really enjoyed that. A question which comes to mind is why the GM engineers originally thought it the right idea to attach the torque arm to the transmission, they must have thought there was some positive purpose and advantage to doing so; any thoughts? I have a 2000 W68 Firebird with G80 and GU6 with which I have fallen in Love, and I do find it quite remarkable that you find driving your Trans Am more satisfying than piloting an LS7 Corvette. My goal is to acquire a Collector Edition Trans Am, or perhaps a White/Taupe '02 WS6. Keep at it.

[@Greenlightfilming]

I think what it is that's appealing about driving the WS6 vs the Z06 is that you've got to want it with the Bird lol. You get a lot more feedback too. It feels like a more raw car. No idea why they attached it to the transmission. They must have thought they would work together in some way.

[@tenehaglendening9246]

What the difference between the long and short as in performance is concerned ? Which one is better for handling? Thanks In advance

[@Bking7string]

full length is better for handling, short arm, tunnel mount more for drag.

[@jasonkwasky53]

Is that still the same wheel and tire setup that you bought? Front looks skinnier now

[@Greenlightfilming]

Yes sir, it's the same wheels. Fronts are a 295 tire.

[@jasonkwasky53]

@@Greenlightfilming it’s super weird to me that people run that wide on the front of these. I had a c10 that had 295’s on the rear. I just picked up my 02 ws6 and interested in this exact setup. Just trying to figure out if I want that wide in the front.

[@BoostedOnaBudget5]

one question did you raise your diff to simulate stock ride hieght when measuring pinion angle...TIA

[@Greenlightfilming]

Yes, it's to be measured with the suspension "loaded".

[@heavychevy383]

ive gotta qa1 torque arm & a founders panhard bar, along with everything sam strano sells for a 98 formula... but still wants to get a lil' loose on hard acceleration... thanx for sharing all these videos, & thats a good lookin fbody ya got there bro!

[@Greenlightfilming]

Might need some better/wider tires if that's the case. All the chassis stuff will help put the power down if you've got a tire to hold it.

[@heavychevy383]

@@Greenlightfilming yeah, i was kinda thinking that myself... something with a bit more grip?? ...mind if i ask what size wheel/tire combo ur running? ...if it matters, mines a 98, but i rekon 98-02 are identical as far as i know... im currently running 17x10 budnick wheels with 275/40/17 bfgoodrich comps, squared, & a full compliment of bmr, strano, umi, founders, qa1, slp, bilstiens, energy suspension, moog, etc... 3 year project to do rear end, brakes, & full suspension with alot of advice from ls1tech & sam strano... but worth it, cause i haveta agree with one of ur comments from ur videos, these cars are just SO MUCH FUN to drive! ... & i haveta say, i love the color of ur ta, my formula is that same silver (sebring?), & man i love that silver on these f-bodies, & i love those wheels u put on there! ...& thanx for the reply man, i appreciate it

[@00Camaroz28]

Are the roto joints very loud in terms of road noise?

[@Greenlightfilming]

Yes, they are noticeable louder than the factory parts would be. They are very good at transducing gear noise as well. The factory rubber bushings do a lot to dampen that stuff.

[@firechicken2011]

I put the full UMI suspension on my WS-6, It's made my car ride so stiff and was a real pain to drive. removed the Viking coilovers and put the regular old stock shocks/struts back on the car, now it rides like a new car on rails. I got rid of the weak LS-1 and swapped a 2019 LT-4 engine. These cars are a total POS until you invest around $30,000 to bring it to the modern world.

[@Greenlightfilming]

I don't think you need to put 30k into them to make them "good", and at that point why not buy something newer? You can get a NICE, build C6Z for 30k + the initial purchase of the 4th gen. Hell, depending on what you paid for the car in the first place you are in C6 ZR1 territory.

[@DontStopReeling]

dude I picked up my 3lz 2008 c6 z06 with 3k on a HCI making 570whp for 28k, what you should've done was buy a c6z and a body lol :(

[@lonmiller5265]

I really like your wheels and tires. Can you tell me the rim sizes, tire sizes and the brand of the rims. Any information would be helpful because I'd like to duplicate it. Thank you very much.

[@Greenlightfilming]

They are 18x10 front and 18x11 Weld Racing S71 wheels. I did a whole video on them "The secret to perfect F-Body wheel specs".

[@speedybarron5406]

How do you pull Motor from a Pontiac Trans Am

[@Greenlightfilming]

Lower the engine/transmission as an assembly below the car seems to be the popular consensus.

[@jameslaiola4976]

I have to wonder about the BMR track pack.

[@Greenlightfilming]

I don't know too much about it to be honest

[@dalenelson8437]

Do you have a stock rear end?

[@Greenlightfilming]

Strange Engineering 12 bolt.

[@trevonwilson1]

Im looking to get the same wheels for my 4th gen camaro. What are the wheels specs? Offsets?

[@Greenlightfilming]

Info is here bud 👍 kzbin.info/www/bejne/f53coXx4bbxlnck

[@trevonwilson1]

@@Greenlightfilming awesome thanks! 👌

[@trevonwilson1]

Do you think 315×40×18 tiers would be too tall since they don't make a 35 series tire?

[@Greenlightfilming]

Depends on your suspension setup. Mine fits perfectly fine. Not sure if a 40 would fit the same

[@KNS_Racing]

audio is gone after 3:40 mark

[@Greenlightfilming]

You can thank youtube for that. The videos has been up for years, and now someone decided that we can't use the song that was playing, so youtube cuts out a massive chunk of audio.

[@KNS_Racing]

ah man, that sucks. they have been ridiculous. still appreciate the effort man@@Greenlightfilming

[@Greenlightfilming]

@Brutality110 yep, sorry dude. It's been easier to just take videos down or mute them. Their software to change songs is garbage, and they clip out 10x more audio than they actually need to.

[@rolandoleyva647]

What size of rim do you have on the rear

[@Greenlightfilming]

18x11

[@rolandoleyva647]

@@Greenlightfilming what size of tire did you put

[@roadrunner_x3764]

What type of rims are those?

[@Greenlightfilming]

Weld S71's

[@gamerwithbrawlhallakiddrag7833]

What kinda wheels are those?

[@Greenlightfilming]

Weld S71's

[@christopherdutton8565]

That car is so shinyyyy

[@Greenlightfilming]

Probably wouldn't have turned out so good if my buddy Dan didnt keep me on task lol

[@guntherferguson2369]

I really wasn't to know where you're finding Z28's and Firebirds for a couple thousand 😂

[@Emelendez707]

all you fbody guys help I am experiencing bad wheel hop with my Quick performance 9 inch rear end, I have tried everything, i set my pinion to -2 then -4 With my adjustable to torque arm I have adjustable lower control arms and pan hard bar and also poly bushings in the sway bar Polly transmission mount I don’t know what else i can do My suspension is kony shocks with sportline springs Maybe upgrading to coil overs go fix it I don’t know

[@cheezykey1139]

you ever figure it out?

[@speedybarron5406]

I got to 2 Pontiac Trans Am so

[@Greenlightfilming]

Sweet! The more the merrier lol

[@marcellusjenkins350]

audio of the video stopped just as you got started and returned right as you were lowering the car. Did not hear any of the instructions

[@Greenlightfilming]

@@marcellusjenkins350 you can thank KZbin and their outstanding audio copywrite restriction program. The audio was there for years.

[@1991tommygun]

Ive got an 02 WS6 6 speed all black sitting in the garage for years with 20,000 miles on it just begging for some nice umi/bmr parts👍🏻

[@Greenlightfilming]

Sweet. Hard to find them with super low mileage like that! You'd notice a huge difference with some tubular lower control arms and a panhard bar. It's a good upgrade.

[@wayne2160]

Get a brake master cylinder brace

[@Greenlightfilming]

Car has one already

[@Loubagg_tv]

This video would be good if it had sound.

[@Greenlightfilming]

You can thank youtube for that

[@Loubagg_tv]

@@Greenlightfilming damn.. copyright stuff??

[@Greenlightfilming]

@luisquinonez2329 yep, my two options were mute a gigantic section of audio entirely, or let any ad revenue go to the person that's now claiming the song used as copywritten material many years after its been live 🤣. KZbin leaves video creators out to hang when it happens.

[@Loubagg_tv]

@@Greenlightfilming that’s crazy. Fuck KZbin. I loved this video because it’s a step by step. It’s a bit hard without the lecture. I hate KZbin for that.

[@WaylandsWorld]

C’mon! Do the turbo!

[@Greenlightfilming]

Lol I do want to. Would be a great change for the car