Under The Mayo Responded to Batman: Arkham Knight Criticisms

[@ThespectacularSpooder457]

Why didn’t he bring up the fact that he’s not a Batman fan yet knows what a Batman world feels like

[@xx_amongus_xx6987]

Um, maybe because he played the first 2 Batman games prior and liked them? You can play the first 2 games, not be a Batman fan, but still understand how a Batman world should feel.

[@fynnthefox9078]

He desperate for views.

[@bearpoop720]

​@@xx_amongus_xx6987no? Jesus christ, you aren't a batman fan if you only played the games and watched 2 movies. A fan would have at least read 10 of his comics, played all the Arkham games and maybe a few non Arkham games, and watched each movie. I want to especially emphasize the comics part, people who read the comics know what Gotham feels like. The Arkham games do a very good job at capturing the feel of the asylum and Gotham.

[@luisesteves5929]

Impossible. Since he KNOWS that Arkham Knight does not feel like a batman game.

[@xx_amongus_xx6987]

@@fynnthefox9078 If he was desperate for views, you think making a video on an old Batman game is the best option? Seriously?

[@Sperg10]

I legitimately cannot take this dude seriously, you can just tell he thinks he's so much better than everyone else "I'm not someone who touches themselves to Batman." It just comes off as spiteful, and I honestly love that he's been getting his fucking shit called out. You can't present yourself and your work as "professional, serious, reviews" and then go off using the age old defense, "I wasn't even being serious, I was just messing around" when people rightfully critique you. It's just so blatantly clear that he's an absolute clown, you can't say that a product is bad when you didn't see all it had to offer. That's like me going to see Deadpool and Wolverine and saying it was fucking garbage when I walked out 10 minutes in, complaining about how "slow" the movie was.

[@xx_amongus_xx6987]

He has never once called himself a video game reviewer or a professional. If anything, he says the opposite, constantly mentioning he is not a professional reviewer, and he doesn't cover most of the stuff a normal video game reviewer would and should talk about. Your whole comment is predicated on a strawman. If a movie (or game) doesn't capture you in the first 10 minutes (or hour), then it is probably bad lol. Sorry but no one gives a shit that "it gets better 30 hours in!!!!!11". If the game isn't entertaining, then don't play it. If someone isn't enjoying a game and they want to talk about their experience, let them. You talk as if Mayo sinned for making a negative video on a game that is criticized by many to begin with already lol. Sorry his video doesn't agree with your opinion, but it's really not that deep.

[@Ram-lo1ji]

Also the part where he goes “it’s ok I like bad games too” implying everyone else is wrong not him. Dudes a dweeb and realistically we shouldn’t care. I’m not even a knight fan boy. I prefer city and origins, but to act like it’s even a slightly bad game is a joke.

[@Ram-lo1ji]

@@xx_amongus_xx6987mayo used that excuse to deflect criticism my guy. He says that to act like “oh it’s just subjective” then proceeds to shit in people for liking something. He’s a hack stop boot licking.

[@majimasimp]

⁠​⁠@@xx_amongus_xx6987EDIT: TLDR since it’s so long. The critique is nonsensical; he uses mostly invalid points of the game to criticize it, some of it being basically a “you problem”. his critique of the game is just objectively bad. Says things that are just contradictory to one another and just actively hating for either petty or nonsensical reasons. He says the “UI is cluttered” which, if you take one look at the screen, is just not true. It has the standard health, item, and combo meter once you get into combat. How is that cluttered? “Combat is slow and unengaging” he says, because the game doesn’t make you use the gadgets. But why doesn’t he just use it otherwise? And the combat is objectively more engaging and faster than the previous Arkham games, due to more enemy variety, extra combat options, and a plentiful amount of new animations. But then, on the video, he shows a clip of him using combat in a STEALTH SEGMENT. No wonder it’s not engaging, he’s going out of his way to use combat in an area you have to use stealth. And his main gripe, the Batmobile. I admit, the enjoyment you can get out of it is highly subjective. However, his issue is with its usage, and it has been calculated that roughly less than a quarter of the game is spent in the Batmobile. But he makes it out that he spends most of the game in it. Then he goes onto say stuff like “Batman Prawn*” because he’s suiting up. What? How in gods green earth is he thinking like that? He says it’s a “gross overindulgence scene” but how? Literally in Arkham Origins and City, you get similar suit up scenes. Why is it a problem here when he likes City? He thinks that saying what is basically a ‘you problem’ is a valid critique. Sorry this is so long, but even besides your point, his “critique” is just nonsense. He doesn’t even say why some of the stuff is as bad as he says it is, which SHOULD be the primary point of a review/critique; saying why something is lacking or great and explaining why it is so. People can have opinions, absolutely, but it can’t be helped to mock them when said opinion is based on invalid points.

[@mht2315]

​@@xx_amongus_xx6987Just because he doesn't call himself a reviewer, doesn't mean his videos aren't basically reviews, and seen as such. He pretty much reviewed the game, and every single point he made is FACTUALLY wrong. His shitty "opinion" is FACTUALLY proven WRONG with evidence.

[@Hero88Gaming]

because batman never used gun,AR,sniper like doomguy he hated AK so much :3

[@TheTrains13]

"batman porn" all im saying is that shows a lack of self awareness, every action hero game is like that. Doom eternal is slayer porn

[@TheMrrccava]

Eternal LITERALLY has a suit up scene that, while not as long, is just masturbatory over the Doom Slayer. And just like Knight, it's pretty awesome tbh. Mayo is just a click chaser but his chase arguments suck and he shills for no one. His content is made for no one except himself.

[@TheTrains13]

@@TheMrrccava i would say the part where the harrier(or whatever the jetpack demons are called) shakely holds out the super shotgun for the slayer to wrench from his hands is like overkill (aw yeahhhhh, you mind controlled that demon so you could get that shotgun now make it kneel before you and suck your-)

[@sky-trevishere9638]

That and its tradition to flex a new batsuit when they do. Arkham city did this, even some comics do it, and yeah, the games too. Even the best Batman shows when they do a gear switch up they do show off the costume. Here it’s a bit more exaggerated, not only because it’s a video game, but because this is also the last (supposed to be) add to the Arkham series, and the end game story. Of course they’re going to flex a new armored suit, who wouldn’t. That and the tutorial for the suit capabilities are optional. He acts like he had to do it, but for me, I just kept going to the mission because it’s a game. I only came back for it later because I wanted the points to upgrade my suit. This is genuinely someone without any sense of literally and understanding this is a fictional video game. It’s honestly saddening how he hasn’t learn his lesson and continues to insist his stance being correct.

[@Pseudo_Notfound]

So he say "everybody can like bad game" even though he is part of the minority who doesn't like the game. The correct sentence would be "not everyone can like good games".

[@shadowknight1509]

Or "Not everyone likes games that others love"

[@Shapes_Quality_Control]

That implies an ad populum fallacy. Star Wars is certainly a more popular film than Vertigo. Is Star Wars the better film or did it just have a better ad campaign?

[@eugeneamoako4440]

Thanks for the grammar, Professor.

[@Ram-lo1ji]

Dudes ego is astonishing. I knew he’d respond because he’s done this before with his takes. It’s one thing to rightfully criticize knight for its issues, it’s another to make them up and pick some of the worst things rn criticize. To say he was being funny about the indicators is a blatant lie. Batman Arkham is legitimately one of the most intuitive combats you’ll find. There’s 4 must have buttons and they all do one action. He didn’t even make a joke with it he just complained and said “I want it over with”. Seeing his Arkham city combat i either have to believe he’s selling on purpose or legitimately god awful at the game. He also can’t say “well I was told it’s actually not 50% of the game, but I didn’t get there so oh well” that’s not how it works. He’d be the same guy to complain the car wasn’t used enough/was taught how to use it. The 3rd issue is him trying to say “it’s ok to be wrong and like a bad game”. That’s the ego talking. He could’ve said “it’s just not my cup of tea and I don’t like it” but instead he tried implying he’s in the right here. And the Batman porn stuff is so stupid. Just admit you know nothing about the character. It’s a tutorial for your gear. He plays games with gear and I know he’s be pissed if it was introduced and not explained. If we’re really using a 1:42 compared to 36 seconds for arguments the argument is cooked. Knight has huge issues in its plot, but when you don’t finish the game clearly you can’t talk about it. Jason being the knight, scarecrow being sidelined, Gordon snapping out and joining a terrorist and trusting him enough to not think he’d still betray him, Batman locking Robin up and getting him captured, and the 200 or so riddles locking the complete ending. Knights issues are easy to spell out if you actually play the game, but since he played deathloop he can no longer play games smh. He’s an absolute clown and I hope no body even pays attention and gives him what he wants.

[@mrblooper1994]

"tried to imply he's right" bro of course he thinks he's right... Otherwise he wouldn't be saying these things. You guys are weirdly mad at a game review lol

[@magita1991]

There are some legit things to critique the game over. The over use of the batmobile is something i can get behind. But the whole combat , batman p*rn thing and i get getting frustrated with the game . But not finishing it and calling it the worst game?

[@shadowknight1509]

@@mrblooper1994 Theres being mad at a legit review then there is being annoyed at a game review where eveything is made up, inaccurate and did not finish the game

[@_Frieza]

​@@mrblooper1994that's the whole problem, his game review is shit 😭

[@Hedron1027]

I lost all of my likeness for Mayo when he said that the Style Meter in Devil May Cry 5 was stupid and unnecessary. Like…why are you even playing that game then?

[@JohnWilliams-wl9px]

My favorite sign of his stupidity is him bitching about the hardest difficulty being locked until you beat the game. Yet the original God of War games which he praises does exactly that.

[@Hedron1027]

@@JohnWilliams-wl9px Exactly!

[@armedweiss5531]

It's because to him difficulty is the end all be all and the ONLY way to FORCE players to use all the game's mechanics and play it "correctly". If it's not challenging him then it's not forcing him to learn and so he's not having fun.

[@garrettdixon9563]

I always think it's funny when people try to criticize style meters, because it's essentially a self report that they are dog water at the game.

[@scottyj8655]

To do cool things? Simple

[@darklordsonic9757]

this video makes his video even dumber cause his points boil down to tone is serious and cant have some gamey things. complaining about the existence of tutorials cause there inclusion is a bit inappropriate. he does take the L on combat so props to him. his tank sensor and microphone point doesn't make any sense i dont know what he was trying to say there, i do agree that stealth tank section sucks. his point on the puzzle that you use you gear make you use them more in combat is a him thing, i played city i did those puzzles and never used the gadgets.

[@SnazzierLol]

Also, mf didn't play the game for a week, and after that, he ofc did'nt come back and finish the game. So his points are not even valid bcz he did a half ass review.

[@channel45853]

It's kinda strange no, a game about a superhero who thrives on stealth apparently wouldn't have a car that can stealthily avoid sensors and microphones? That feels right up Batman's alley. But I can see how implementation might make it seem ridiculous.

[@AussieAlex]

my biggest issue, is that he claims the "overindulgent scene" isn't immersive at all. Well, if he paid attention to the scene at all, he would know that Batman needed to take out all the thugs at once or else the hostage would be killed. He says that he needs the upgrades to do the job, then gets the upgrades. Does it not make sense that Batman would then try out his new equipment, before diving headfirst into an intense hostage situation? It's perfectly immersive, and its at fault of his intelligence that the moment is ruined for him.

[@SnazzierLol]

@AussieAlex tbh I think his just trying to find an excuse to hate the game. Like he said his not a batman fan, so his review is not done properly it and he always changes his opinion when reviewing a game. He said he hated arkham City, but then all of us suddenly started saying it's the best, but yet again, it could be that he actually played the game, so his opinion about it changed.

[@SnazzierLol]

@@AussieAlex also the batman porn wtf was he on about with that I was so dumbfounded.

[@burrito4]

Underthemayo has the weirdest criticisms when theres so many obvious criticisms he ignores this guy is nitpick galore

[@SnazzierLol]

@burrito4 he also doesn't follow his own advice in one of his videos.

[@justrandomstuff6828]

The way he criticizes games is by saying "it's bad" rather than "I don't like it", it's as if his opinion is factual, this guy has a very inflated ego in everything he does or makes, also his arguments just suck

[@MuchDrOrange]

Yea and his fan base keeps using the same defense of "it's his opinion" but how can they say that when not even mayo portrays it as an opinion? It's very obvious in his video that he states his opinion as fact, even in the title he does it. And yet these people will defend this small little man to the end of the earth if they have to.

[@_Frieza]

He's been like this due to his interaction with the doom community. Not sure of the exact details, but he was pretty big with doom eternal, so it probably stems from there.

[@TheCapitalWanderer]

hugo martin turned him like that, one interview and now he thinks he's a professional game designer

[@channel45853]

The audacity to call a game dev stupid despite likely not making a game himself or anything near the level of Arkham Knight is peak gamer behavior. I think this is why some people say you can't judge art is you haven't made it. Because of the audacity of some consumers.

[@AhmedSaeed-qz5ro]

I literally play this game on a low end laptop. Even with some lag a few times. I'm playing this game for months. And it's my favourite game after Arkham city. It's like 100+ hours in this game

[@GeeDee420]

11:05 theres a difference between a game you didnt like and a bad game buddy one is and opinion and the other is a fact

[@xavierrivera3407]

F*CKING FINALLY, SOMEBODY SAID IT. I honestly could care less for his review, at most it’s a “eh, that’s your opinion and I respect it” thing. But what I can’t stand is him acting like this game is factually a bad game. This game that gets ton of praise, that is still played by many to this day, a game that rivals games that comes out in 2024 And he acts like his opinion is the fact when it’s not.

[@Joe_Kerr_9797]

It really annoys me that he says it's a bad game like it's a fact, it just makes him look like a stupid arrogant prick.

[@TheMock5000]

Under the mayo is a gamer that pretends to be a gamer. So basically a games journalist.

[@TheCapitalWanderer]

pretty much, blud plays 2 games and wants everything to play like those 2 games he played

[@genesismultiverse4896]

*4:42* really in that case why no one hears batman'grappler gun when he goes up itsgame logic

[@fobo3361]

Yeah, he's just milking this 😂 Genius rage bait honestly, plays a game, doesn't even finish it, makes a video full of rage bait cuz he knows it'll get attention (nobody with a brain could genuinely see arkham's suit up and inlore reasons for why he suddenly has new abilities and think batman porn, that's not a real take, let alone a take you double down on if anything THAT should've been the one he claimed was just a joke) and now he gets to make a follow up to farm even more clicks and views and attention, so he doubles down to keep people mad enough interact with his follow up, but he cant admit he was wrong cuz then we'll think we won (ego cant handle that) but he cant double down too hard or everyone will realize how pointless it is to interact with him, so he back tracks just enough to make people think he's listening, puts on the nice guy "we can all enjoy different things guys" act to save a bit of his reputation, while still actively shitting on batman fans and people who enjoyed knight, what a clown

[@xx_amongus_xx6987]

Mad

[@fobo3361]

@@xx_amongus_xx6987 not really, actually kinda impressed, i thought he was just stupid, but nah just a pathetic attention whore whose reeeeally good at gettin that attention

[@AJotasticGamer]

Brotha this is 4D chess bro is just a dude who thinks his word is gospel and got mad when obviously proven wrong.

[@neurotoxinc]

well he has a history of bad critisism like ultrakill gow ragnarok (edit) so this is not a suprise

[@Ram-lo1ji]

I think it’s a mix of farming engagement, but I don’t think it’s anything more than his ego not liking it. He tries fence sitting on points he knows he’s clearly wrong about. Pulls random numbers out of thin air to help his point and then tries using the “well it’s ok you guys like a bad game”. Mayo is a clown.

[@FoxUnitNell]

The armour scene is pretty neat way of showing the gadgets and their upgrades in a way that both makes sense to the player and to the character (batman, just getting it). For old players they can focus on the upgrades while newer players can get see what's up with the game (like the extra leap after perch mechanic).

[@tylerwagner1978]

This game is still solid at the core of it. Everything is responsive and the combat is as fun as it was before. You truly feel super powerful and thats a good thing. The Batmobile is what you have to get used to and if it doesnt click then that pretty much seals it. He wasnt feeling the gameplay loop which is understandable. He also doesnt appreciate how the game makes you feel like Batman, all memes aside lol. The game has been reevaluated since launch and now more people see its strengths.

[@TheBlueLink3]

I think, while not terrible, his response still deflects too much criticism, and he still thinks it’s an outright bad game instead of just one he personally doesn’t like.

[@AthifArif-g4t]

This might be a controversial take but Arkham Knight is my favorite Batman game, so Mayo’s review made me a little peeved (to put it lightly). He criticizes the combat even though it’s a vast improvement of Arkham City’s, he calls the scene where Batman puts on the new Batsuit “Batman Corn” even though the same thing happened in city, and he for some reason criticizes the HUD for being too “clustered” (when it isn’t). All of his “critiques” make no sense and the video itself seems to be rage bait.

[@oukeith]

This is the same youtuber who made how god of war 2018 was ruined he is essentially a rage baiter youtuber.

[@33connorkenway33]

Gow 2018 was trash

[@oukeith]

@@33connorkenway33 lol

[@33connorkenway33]

@@oukeith nothing funny about fact

[@dc7981]

@@oukeith he’s right about fraud of war. People need to wake up and play a real action game

[@oukeith]

@33connorkenway33 excuse me sir your XBOX is showing...

[@saphiii]

kendrick v drake for unemployed people😭

[@sunsetman22]

I thought Kendrick v Drake was Kendrick v Drake for unemployed people😅

[@woopoganntnt7379]

kendrick vs drake WAS for unemployed people lmao

[@shadowtriggers5443]

I’m not the biggest Batman fan myself, and I absolutely loved these games, including knight night they got me into Batman. The games are the best weigh to introduce people to Batman.

[@Dovah_Slayer]

bro reviewers HAVE to finish games they hate ALL the time! that's your JOB as a reviewer you have to be fair and impartial

[@spyishere3054]

Just what I was waiting for thank you! I will admit, though his response isn’t as bad as it thought it would be, which is nice to see that there was a balance here!

[@GeeDee420]

12:10 yeah hes about to fight a whole army almost by himself in a single night

[@TheMrrccava]

"Omg I got to drive the Batmobile finally and it sucks WAAAAAH"

[@ghostchasewrestling]

8:00 He said that he liked city cuz he felt pressured in fights with random thugs but when he played knight he didnt like that. Under the mayo is a complete joke .

[@GeeDee420]

4:30 you normally use tanks to shoot with big caliber weapon to do big damage to the target, does this dude really think tanks have microphones on them? no! theyre a box of multiple layers of reinforced metal you do NOT hear out of this shit box. also the canon is so loud im pretty sure it would mess up the mics all the time if there were any. batman uses stealth technology. to make it simple:all of his vehicles are invisible to most tech in the batman universe

[@LarsOLenior]

14:33 you can literally skip the suit up scene anyway

[@thelonekoala57]

I really enjoyed the game. I liked and disliked the batmobile. It sometimes felt like it was overdone. Like the deathstroke boss fight in the game. Why would a villain like Deathstroke fight batman in a tank?? I also miss the detective aspect of batman. I mean there are some cool detective sections in the game. I just wanted to see more of them. But despite these flaws the game is still awesome.

[@leekinseong9471]

Whats even the problem of having a longer suit up sequence 😅

[@genesismultiverse4896]

Why i dont eat mayoneze

[@seynpurrp]

that guys definitely the typa guy to hate on knight and like the suicide squad game.

[@ThunderxZ450]

the game i want to play the most sice my 11 years old ;_; im 18 now i want to play it soo bad but my pc dont handle ;_;

[@Chineseisntalanguageapparently]

HUH?????? Your video just came out like what??? I basically watched it when it came out and didn’t even realize it, I thought this “drama” blew over long ago, if not years ago, and you’re telling me he JUST replied to your video? Wow

[@juliangrant9718]

I think AK is the best Arkham game. It's not a crime to not like it. I'm not the biggest fan of BTAS. I have some really unpopular takes about that which are probably very debunkable and come across as silly nitpicking. So I'm not that irritated by bad takes. We all have them. But there are some things that Mayo is smart enough to know why it's there narratively and the limitations of full immersion. The Batmobile complaints are the most easiest to dismiss. I remember seeing someone say "I didn't buy AK to play a racing game. I bought AK to play a superhero game." To which I replied "no, you wanted to play a Batman game and Batman has one of the most famous cars in fiction." If they did less with the Batmobile, everyone would complain not enough was done to utilise the car. It's a strange complaint that has no correct answer to that argument. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. And what he's saying about the Cobra tanks make no sense. I don't think you two are agreeing that they shouldn't be there. Mayo is nitpicking that they can't hear him in battle mode. That's obviously a limitation of immersion. For some reason they just can't hear you when you're crashing into concrete pillars right behind them. Narratively, they're just using laser scanners to see. Narratively, all the information they had on Batman came from Jason. He didn't anticipate the Batmobile having a tank upgrade where he could move his car into battle mode and become more stealthy. Because they can hear you just fine when you're driving normal. They spin their scanners immediately in your direction if you're revving the engine near them. But my biggest gripe with his critisisms is about the combat and comparing it to AC. Now, a lot of people may not agree with this but I think Arkham City has unbalanced combat and might be the worst combat in the entire franchise. Doesn't mean it's bad. Just means it's put last. Everyone can feel this contrast when they go back to AC after playing AK. Everything he likes about the combat in AC are not features. They are mistakes that they improved upon with the sequels. Getting swarmed by enemies that stand there and fake-out their attacks and swing wildly while you're already countering a move yet they somehow connect is not a feature of AC. I would get smacked around by cheap shots in the first encounter with enemies and think "why does this combat seem so epileptic?" Yes, AC has snappier combat. It does make it look faster. Again, not why the combat is good. That's why the combat is worse and immersion breaking. Again, I feel like Mayo understands this but is being deliberately antagonistic towards things that have perfectly good explanations.

[@Howdareyou-ln2stars]

What do u think about his name "under the mayo" :p

[@Zoned24]

Sum sus is up

[@Howdareyou-ln2stars]

@@Zoned24 what? :p

[@RandomGuy-dt2em]

@@Howdareyou-ln2starsswitch s&m

[@gUwU47]

Yo dude, lil feedback for your vid, your voice is far too low in volume, next time boost it up heaps 👍

[@Zoned24]

yea I had to lower the volume, wasnt sure how much tho, I'll take this into consideration thank you

[@ghostchasewrestling]

Arkham series is just objectively good.

[@quantuminnovation2743]

Came here from the responses from ultrakill

[@oyabuntan]

2:10 Next time don't make a review of something you're not a fan of???? Are you ten years old? What do you think reviews are for?

[@xx_amongus_xx6987]

Some people don't like to hear bad things about things they like. Some people need to grow up lol.

[@bitingsky7677]

If you're not a fan of it, you're not gonna like it. The review is gonna be biased dummy. That's the one thing people hate about some reviewers, they don't like a certain genre, or type of game, and when they make a review, it's just biased not even giving the game a fair chance. No one is saying you can't make a review of something you don't like, but to make a review of something you already don't like isn't good.

[@oyabuntan]

@@bitingsky7677 Brother what are you talking about. He played the first two games and liked them. How would he know he won't like the third one without playing it?

[@bitingsky7677]

@@oyabuntan I wasn't talking about under the mayo tho. You said, "Next time don't make a review of something you're not a fan of????" And I was telling you why people who aren't a fan of something shouldn't review it. If I was talking about under the mayo, I would have mentioned him.

[@oyabuntan]

@@bitingsky7677 You're totally misinterpreting my comment. Click on the timestamp I left. I'm quoting the responder.

[@Garr3ttGuy]

Fine video but your sound mixing needs work dude, I get my ears blown out by mayo then it sounds like you’re whispering to me from across the room

[@Abel_Unstable]

Is he Stuooid?

[@solomysic7462]

I think his just trying to rage bait for views

[@glitch7148]

I hate the word opinion everybody thinks u gotta respect someone else’s opinion sometimes ts can just be wrong

[@CursedShinobiClown]

You can subjectively think someone’s subjective opinion on something is lame but conversely others can think the same for your opinion on they’re opinion as well

[@bremalerage5935]

Why was he so bad when getting footage in Arkham city

[@GeeDee420]

i mean his name is mayo for a reason lmao

[@rufus5208]

Arkham World

[@xboxfcontent_yt]

Bro has 420 subs

[@AthifArif-g4t]

Why does that matter?

[@sunsetman22]

​@@AthifArif-g4t apparently there's a minimum subscription amount before a channel is allowed to have an opinion on something

[@donaldhysa4836]

You got owned and dunked just admit it and move on.

[@bigwhopper6501]

Dude please fix ur audio editing for this video, mayo voice is way too loud 😂

[@lessonmet5291]

I'm going against the grain here and admit that I really don't know why Everyone is so flustered over this guy. Let me first say that the Arkham Series have been very near and dear to my heart, and I have been a fan since the release of Arkham City. Though I already liked Batman, the games were so dense in details that it opened the world of Batman I was previously not aware of before. And yes, I do like the tank battles, flaws and all. After seeing Mayo's video, I decided to check out his video. His personality is definitely different than most KZbinrs I know. He is mainly comfortable playing a certain style of video games (fighting games, Injustice, etc) And he seems to focus on playing games that are outside his comfort zone. Yes he openly states that he is not a Batman fan, and it is just the type of person he is. He is not the type of player that pays attention to story or the countless Easter eggs these games have. So when it came to the Clay face ending of City, he was honest about it and says it came out of nowhere. And he is kind of right seeing how Clayface was never an official character until the very end of the game (Only popping up as Easter eggs until that point). Yes, he was playing as Joker from the beginning. What I mean is Clayface was not established as a possible character to show up at the end, hence anyone not familiar with the comics would know the significance of him, hence proven by Mayo. He openly admits to be out of his element, but does express some gratitude of the style of the Arkham Series. He shared his opinion honestly, and though we may not like it, it does not really affect how the game is to anyone who may love it as much as we do, or hate it as much as he does. I'm going off topic here to explain that I also love Pirates of the Caribbean. I loved the movies so much that I was a pirate for three Halloweens in a row after watching At World's end in Theaters. When I showed my girlfriend the first movie, she was bored of it, and saw no point to why this movie was so popular. There were some parts she liked; like where Jack and Elizabeth were marooned on that island. I may not like how she felt, but they were her honest opinions. I still love her all the same, and we still have other things to watch like Harry Potter, which we are both into. So all in all, I don't think this guy is dumb; just unaware of how big the reaction would become. Though he did suspect it. He gave his reasoning, and they were valid and understandable.

[@starwarsnerd1055]

I actually find myself agreeing with him when it comes to immersion breaking with the whole gadgets stuff. It’s werid that Batman with all his experience needs to be trained on how to use these things before going and helping the hostages.

[@uraveragewiteguy]

They explain in the game 🤦 bro played the game on mute

[@aeixo2533]

Learn how to match audio levels dude. Have you ever heard of a compressor or a limiter?

[@space.pirate481]

he has good idk why trigger by it? Arkham Knight is too 80% batmobile

[@tyleroutland435]

I hate Arkham knight it's my least favorite Arkham game and a trash sequel

[@icntsywhtiwnt2]

You don't have to finish a game to say it's bad. If people took off their rage glasses they might hear some valid critiques. I enjoyed the game but I know it's heavily flawed, including his critique that it's more Batman prn than real Batman.

[@blastimbre]

I can agree with not needing to finish a game to judge it. Calling it batman porn is not a valid criticism. It's quite clearly rage bait.

[@Sonic8577]

Dude, Just because someone doesn't finish a game doesn't mean that the game is going to get good or that it is a good game, Yes some games that are good start off bad and get progressively better the farther you get into the game, but if I play a game that starts off bad than starts to get good near the very end or halfway through the game for it to get good then it is not a good game. Who cares if he didn't finish a game, If he plays a game long enough to make a good judgement on rather a game is good or bad then him not finishing a game is irrelevant and doesn't invalidate his opinion. A bad Game is a bad game and a good game is a good game, A person not finishing a game does not invalidate that person's opinion on rather a game is good or bad if that person is correct in their opinion of said game.

[@Scuffedduck117]

It does

[@MuchDrOrange]

It literally does though, they did not get the full experience there for they can not commentate on the whole game and call it good or bad. They can say the part they played was good or bad, but that's not what mayo did. He only got through a third of the game, and yet used that to say the whole game was bad.

[@Sonic8577]

@@MuchDrOrange The full experience means nothing if a game is unfun regardless of how long a game is. Getting the full experience of a game does not a make a game fun if the majority of it is bad. Games do not change the longer you play them, The game mechanics, Gameplay, combat and graphics do not get better the longer a game goes because for the most part they stay the same throughout the majority of a game. If you have to play a whole game to the end of the game for it to be good then they that game must suck because a person should be able to tell if a game is good or bad after an hour two. Plus one third of a game is a pretty good amount of time for a person to play a game now if he only played it for 5 minutes or something than you have a point. Personally I like arkham knight because if I didn't like it I would not of played it to completion however it wasn't my favorite.

[@MuchDrOrange]

@Sonic8577 you just said "the majority is bad" how can mayo say that if he only played around third of the game? And games do objectivly change the longer you play them. As you progress through the game, you unlock new ways to use your abilities and your pre existing ones evolve as you learn new ways to use them. And I'm not arguing that you have to get past the first third of the game for it to be good, I'm arguing that arkham knight is good from the very start and to the end. And a third of the game is not good enough to judge it on, if mayo had played a majority of the game than he can start talking but he admitted in his video he barely got past the first several story missions. And forgot to mention that I do agree that knight has its issues, like the overusage of the batmobile and some the let-down side missions, but for the most part in mayos video he didn't talk about those, instead he just nitpicked every little detail.

[@TheCapitalWanderer]

​@@MuchDrOrangecan confirm, i dislike the Los Santos section of GTA SA, had i stopped there, i wouldve called the game bad, but i chose to continue and played Badlands, SF, LV and Return to LS, turns out it is a great game. playing a quarter of a game and then jumping to a conclusion is a dumb move.

[@supernew10doh64]

I don't get why people are so angry about him calling Arkham Knight a bad game when it's almost universally considered to be a bad entry in the Arkham series almost every point he makes are things that many KZbin video game reviewers have brought up like there's too much emphasis on the goddamn car this is something that is brought up by just about everyone who's ever reviewed Arkham Knight I feel it's kind of dumb to single out Mayo for talking about this when just about everyone who's ever reviewed the game has complained that there's too much emphasis on the car. And sure he didn't finish the game but if the game is already almost universally considered to be a bad game it doesn't really mean much of anything in the grand scheme of things because he's not coming to the wrong conclusion regardless of whether he finished it or not not to mention games the way that they typically are designed they put their best foot forward within the first couple hours so if you don't like a game within the first couple hours the rest of the game is not likely to change your mind on this. If you don't like the first couple hours of God of War 2018 Chances are the next 47 hours are not going to change your mind.

[@xx_amongus_xx6987]

Yeah but isn't it fun to take points out of context and blindly hate on someone for trying to form their own opinions?

[@jaxxpool9630]

If Arkham Knight is almost universally considered to be a bad game, then why did it get critical acclaim and many people still playing it to this day? I’m not saying critics are trustworthy, but it disputes your claim about the universal consideration.

[@supernew10doh64]

@jaxxpool9630 just because something might be universally considered a bad game doesn't mean that people wouldn't still play it there are tons of people who play Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 despite its Universal hatred. And just because something gets good reviews doesn't mean the thing is actually good famously the Star Wars prequels were pretty well received when they first came out yet today you would find very few people willing to defend those movies saying that they are actually good you might get people saying that they are better than the sequel trilogy but that's a completely different conversation. And just to bring this up as well just because something makes a shit ton of money does not also mean that it is good Batman v Superman made a crap ton of money way more money than the likes of the first Iron Man movie yet I doubt many people would try to argue that Batman v Superman is better than Iron Man. The thing about quality is that it's difficult for many people to objectively assess are things quality because many people are simply incapable of looking at something without their personal emotional bias many people enjoy Batman Arkham Knight and because they enjoy it they think that it is a good game but the simple fact of the matter is that whether you enjoy something or not that is subjective what is objective are things such as the quality of the gameplay or the quality of the writing. I'm not trying to sound like a pretentious douche when I say these things but it is simply the fact of the matter.

[@supernew10doh64]

@@xx_amongus_xx6987 personally no. Anyone can seem like an idiot when you take their points out of context and twist around their words so that the original point they were making is completely lost but if you have to do that all you're doing is just hurting your own position because if you really had any point to raise against theirs at all you wouldn't need to use such underhanded tactics to make yourself seem smarter or your side seem more right.

[@xx_amongus_xx6987]

@@supernew10doh64 I was being sarcastic, I completely agree with you.