Understanding Hebrews

Hebrews 10:25 - Have you ever heard this Scripture quoted to strike fear into someone who doesn't go to a particular church or denomination every Sunday? In this video we will learn how this passage in Hebrews is abused and used in an unbiblical manner. We must ask ourselves, what or who is the Church?

[@adechalus]

This is exactly what I’m talking about!! People can’t believe that I can’t find a good church to go to since I’ve moved to the south. Churches are a business and that’s what so many people don’t realize I would prefer to go to the local coffee shop with a group of believers and read the Bible together. ❤️

[@stevecrazy9491]

Come worship with us. No collection plate passed. We simply put Jesus first.

[@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295]

You should come to the northeast if you think the south is bad. Almost no truth teaching churches here

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

@@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295 Whereabouts in the northeast do you live? Pennsylvania? I’m currently living in Northeast Canada. My wife and I drive to upstate New York every year to visit her family. Lord willing we will be heading there February/March.

[@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295]

@@ShatteringFalseFoundations I'm in the Philadelphia PA/ Southern NJ area.

[@philarevolutionarywarriorp8295]

@@ShatteringFalseFoundations I appreciate all the points you make in this video. Too bad we arent a little closer geographically. Would love to worship with you. Thanks for the Truth in your videos you share brother

[@christlove2045]

I just left the organized church and everyone in there think I’m wrong and will get cold but God revealed to me the exact thing . I was getting attacked in that church with anxiety and fear and it seemed as they will take all the authority you supposed to have in Christ . Then when you need help because you are going through spiritual warfare no one is around to help and you feel as all your weapons were taken away by just waiting on the pastor or elders of the church to pray for you . I am out with my husband preaching the word and feeding the needy . I feel more alive than ever and on fire for God ! It’s time to live a real Christian life instead of being bottle fed every Sunday .

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Praise the Lord! Hopefully the Lord will lead you to other born again believers in your area who understand the kingdom of God and the deadness of religious tradition, who you can join together with for edification and growth as the body, working together for a common purpose. God bless you in your walk and continued seeking of the truth. The truth does indeed set us free!

[@friend4ua724]

I too love doing outreach and sharing the Gospel with people. I know what you mean about feeling more alive than ever before and on fire for God! I've had people tell me they want to go out with me to minister to people but most of the time people who say this do not follow through. I've visited many churches and it seems so boring and there's no life there.

[@christlove2045]

@@friend4ua724 you should do it . We are the body of Christ we were never supposed to just attend a church and never do anything , we are called to preach the gospel , heal the sick and cast out demons

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Amen!

[@Corneisha15]

Amen my brother in Christ! Who the Son sets free is truly free indeed! It's hard trying to get people to realize the truth. Religion has really did a number on us for centuries. I am so thankful that God has called me out of these Christian cults.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

So true! Freedom isn't in a building or a denominational title, but true freedom only comes in Christ. Religion has blinded the minds of many sincere and well-intentioned people and has turned the understanding of church into a ritualistic meeting on Sunday. Now there's nothing wrong with assembling together on Sunday, but any day of the week is just as good as the other. Jesus is our eternal Sabbath and we rest in Him every single day if we are truly set free. Whenever and wherever we assemble together as born again believers, that is the Church (the body of Christ). God is calling everyone out of Christian denominationalism and into a life of victory and freedom in Him where we can walk after the Spirit and not after the flesh and where our daily lives become our ministry and our worship. Where two or three are gathered together in the name of Jesus, there He is in our midst. God bless you and sorry I didn't respond sooner, for some reason your comment never showed up in my notifications tab, but I found it in my main comments tab.

[@Corneisha15]

@@ShatteringFalseFoundations Amen, I agree!

[@t.c.o.g.773]

Indeed!!! Christ has set us free! ⛪⛪⛪⛪⛪⛪⛪

[@Gailsjournal]

WE are Gods building!!!

[@roxsyzzle35]

You are so spot on, this is my first time seeing this video because i was searching for this specific scripture meaning on here, & this is the video i decided to click on. I just got preached at by a man (one of many) who had asked me where i attend church & i told him i attend sometimes, & he threw Hebrews 10:25 at me, saying it's meaning was for us to have a spiritual leader, & not to forsake assembling ourselves with other believers...."While we were at an outreach" Ummm?🤔 "I said i am here, NOT forsaking the assembling with believers" & he continued to say that wasn't true assembling, that we had to gather together in a church building...🙄 Oh wow!!! I do have a relationship with God, & He called me out of a church i was attending years ago, & man thought i was crazy, but i know the Father's voice!! I'll listen to Him, cuz Abba knows best!! Where He tells me to go, I will go!! Amen!!

[@ianjoseph8450]

I agree with you full 100 my brother. We as true believers are the church because we represent his light and shows the character of God .

[@TheRopenNetwork]

Thank you for the clarification this was my initial thought as I received a letter from my church stating this verse. As I read it and read the full chapter I realized they had taken it out of context.

[@tspoon1310]

Thank you for sharing, I knew there was more to this scripture than what I was hearing from others. I get that at times too, people telling me that I need to get to church because that is what it says in the bible. I agree, you can have church with other believers no matter where you are, we are having church right now. Thank you for sharing.

[@trevino37]

I find that those who attend a regular church and are members, are the least ones in wanting to fellowship with other Christians that do not attend their church. I also find that many of these Christians who do attend a regular church as members, are the least one that are willing to participate in theological discussion and biblical studies with others outside of their congregation. Thirdly, I also find that these individuals who attend of a regular church as a member, have no desire to speak with other individuals concerning scripture at any level who do not attend their church. I am a Christian looking for fellowship with other Christians yet no one has shown interest, If I find myself to have a different theological view than them, they not only distance themselves from me but do not even attempt to speak on scripture with me to correct me. Some claim that having arguments over theological difference is not good, yet they would rather cut the communication all together while showing no interest in winning someone for Christ, if they actually thought my beliefs were wrong. As crazy as it may seem, I find myself reaching out to church going Christian to speak about the word of G-d while none do the same. Its as if to them, church going is all that is required to be a Christian and sunday hello and good bye is enough to call it fellowship.... its always a sad day to see this.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

All very sad, but true!

[@girlygirlwoman]

I agree. I've heard this for literally over 50 years from churches here in my town which is called the "Bible Belt" I did have a Sunday School teacher who told us that that verse means "dont totally abandon" ... Another issue is preacher and ppl STILL using the word "Tithing" and giving "10%". There is an EXCELLENT message by John MacArthur about this. "John MacArthur explains what Bibical Tithing is"....on KZbin. Also "Wretched Radio " explained the same thing as John MacArthur did. I'm so Thankful and Grateful the "Truth" has been revealed to me through the Holy Spirit "leading me into all Truth".

[@ellajackson353]

I agree, totally. Our body IS the Temple where the HolySpirit dwells. Not a building. We assemble or fellowship with believers for one reason and one reason only and that is to be encouraged and build each other up as we continue our walk with our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. We are the light in this dark world, so assembling with those who are truly saved and obedient to God is very important in these last days. There is no time for carnality. Serve the Lord out of a sincere heart or go on your way. Jesus is coming!!!

[@Biblejournalwithme]

I agree with you. I have been saying the same thing. We are the church. It is all about relationship. GOD Bless you Brother.

[@chriskrieman1899]

Right on

[@Cocobutterhoney78]

A whole lot of people use this verse simply to guilt-trip and judge others, as they do with many other Bible verses, and do not use it to what it says in the beginning, "and let us consider one another to provoke unto LOVE and to GOOD WORKS:" It's a shame that we don't read the whole entire book and ask the Holy Spirit for understanding and, discipline and discernment so that we do read his holy word out of context and using our own understanding instead of HIS! I understood and agreed with your explanation, it's more man-made traditions then actual Bible teachings.

[@thegardenranger]

Yes, the common problem of denominations is their concreted doctrine. I distance myself from self-made "what we believe" statements of denominations and only believe what is written in the Holy Bible. In that way, I remain open to new understandings of scripture and reject explaining things to myself. Only God can explain to me everything that I do not understand. And I would be interested whether you, other believers in Iesous Christos, perceive that being a member of a denomination corrupts pure understanding of scripture, because they press the Word of God into their man-made construct? This is why I am thankful to Yehovah, my own Father, that I am free from every denomination, and nobody can dictate how to understand the Holy Scriptures. It is the Holy Spirit that is teaching me. It is an excellent blessing, however, to assemble with fellow believers in God's only Son, Iesous Christos, to praise Him everyday and pray.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Yes I definitely agree and believe that becoming a member of any particular denomination can corrupt a pure understanding of Scripture. Denominationalism in essence divides the body of Christ. The body of Christ should not have any "schisms" according to Scripture and we don't become members of a denomination when we are born again, we become members of the body of Christ (one new man so making peace). 1 Corinthians 12:25,27-28 KJVS That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. [27] Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. [28] And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues. Ephesians 2:13-16 KJVS But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ. [14] For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us; [15] Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace; [16] And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby: I also am in agreement with you regarding the Holy Spirit being our teacher and gathering as the body being a great blessing and important for edification and growth as individual members of the body of Christ. God never intended us to do this alone. He wants us to grow as His body and as His body be an example of love in the earth. Thanks for sharing! Peace to you.

[@GlendaMartins-vb1qv]

Let the dead bury the dead, follow Jesus

[@Gailsjournal]

Amen I’m in full agreement , Thankyou for the encouragement. ❤️❤️❤️

[@angiegarcia6300]

Amen and thank you.

[@stephentrachsel4426]

The church house is like the locker room at a football game. You go there to figure out the place you go there to get inspired you go there to hear from the coach and you leave that place ready to win the game. Yes we are the church but there’s nothing like the people of God meeting at one place to worship him together. In our culture we recognize this to be the church house

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

The building that we gather in is of no significance. It’s all about the people of God assembling together for edification. This video is not speaking against that. Did you watch the entire video?

[@the_woo_]

Amen bro!! "Iron sharpens Iron".....We are the Church!

[@Fosterdana]

calledoutones 🔥one body one church one Lord & Spirit .”you are temple of living God those who are led by the spirit our the sons of God …

[@danielestaub9445]

Agree. Have a great day! Thanks for posting this content.

[@bradleybagans2219]

Very nice, right on brother. I hope that 5 yrs after this post you’re still serving our mighty Saviour brother!

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

I am indeed my friend! Thanks for taking the time to comment.

[@Chantelle564]

Love love this message and explanation of this message

[@snowyriver2448]

Institutional churches operate essentially like a business, so the self-promotion.

[@nehemiahsigei1769]

Short but eye opening thanks bro. Have confronted this many times. When one miss church even for a Sunday people think you are backslidden.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Glad to hear! Yes, sadly Church is now associated with something you go to, rather than something we are. The Church is not a building, but is a living body composed of many members. We need to stop "going to church" and actually be the Church. Jesus is our eternal Sabbath and we need to rest in Him every single day of the week. We rest from all labors to earn righteousness through good deeds and adherence to the law. When we are united with Jesus Christ, we receive His righteousness and yes, it is important to assemble together as the Body of Christ, but we shouldn't allow men's religious traditions to cloud our understanding of what that looks like. What I have come to understand is that sometimes the most strict and rigid "church goer" can many times be the most backslidden in their heart. They do everything outwardly that makes people think they are spiritual and holy, but inwardly they are a mess. True freedom is only found in Jesus Christ, not in a religious system or denomination. Thanks for commenting and God bless you in your studies!

[@leonpatterson8445]

The early church met on the first day of the week for worshipping God in the prescribed manner and we have that as an example today. The church at that time had been told about the coming destruction of Jerusalem and the end of the Jewish dispensation under the old law. The Chrisians were forsaking the assembly, which was most important as to encourage one another to not become discouraged. We should always find other times and places to encourage one another as we face the final judgment of the church of Christ that belongs to our God.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Great insights! Very few believers understand what took place in 70 AD when Jerusalem was destroyed, fulfilling everything Jesus had prophesied about in the Olivet Discourse.

[@jc4me17]

Ya know, i like the idea of going to different churches and trying to find people to meet in the homes. It's great that people attend congregations but what a wonderful way to get different congregations to come together outside of their denomination. My husband and I haven't been able to find a place to attend but i never really thought about just attending different places. We are going to consider this, thank you.

[@Corneisha15]

Myers Myers A lot of pastors are teaching the congregation not to church hop. They are putting fear in God's people. The institutionalized church system is becoming more and more corrupt.

[@ivankoogle1852]

Amen. That said, it is still good to belong to a congregation. Jesus said to “love one another” which probably does not happen by church-hopping, at least not in a ‘brotherly’ way. But you are right, doesn’t mean you have to be there in a seat every single Sunday.

[@henrygoins2695]

Powerful word!! Truth!

[@GlendaMartins-vb1qv]

I welcome this video. Speaking into my heart

[@jesussavesseq]

Absolutely 💯 We are the Living Stones founded on the Rock of Jesus , lined up with the Cornerstone ... also Jesus By grace through faith in finished love works at calvary

[@earthage3020]

Excellent Teaching. I agree with Everything you said.

[@ShaliniBodani]

The Kingdom of God is within you You dont have to be in a mansion or any building. If we are made in Gods image then we can also be of the same light and love and so just by gathering with the same mind and heart, that should be enough, in a house, on top of a mountain, by a stream, on a bus even. Thank you Eric

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Indeed! When we are born again we enter the kingdom of God (John 3:3-5). The kingdom of God is a spiritual kingdom that comes through the finished work of Jesus Christ and his Holy Spirit in our lives. Romans 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. Luke 17:20-21 And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation: Neither shall they say, Lo here! or, lo there! for, behold, the kingdom of God is within you.

[@Acme_Anvil]

I think you've touched on some good points that the church building isnt the only place to gather. Knowing there are individual calling to people lives as well as the collective calling. All called to be disciples but some are called to be in assigned to a particular area to work specifically in a certain way and with s certain neighborhood. Then there are some assigned to travel and do an apostolic work like Paul. He Ministered from a distance to churches that were assigned to be in certain areas. God bless you and let the spirit of God move in your life.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Thanks for commenting! God bless and keep you.

[@mariscab699]

Totally agree !! 👍🏼

[@sicadanuta6226]

Amen thank you for sharing because all these times I thought it was just church where a person would say u comming to church and we would say no and they would say remember don't forsake the assembly so thanks once again God bless

[@theseamstress173]

Absolutely! Ive been beaten with the misquoted scripture many times. Staying in churches i should had left upon my first thought. Its been over ten years since ive joined to a church building and my walk with Christ is stronger than ever. The bondage is gone. Now teach about tithe. Another abuse of preachers

[@kevinballard3650]

You are speaking truth brother. I would love to speak to you.

[@stevecrazy9491]

I would too! I wonder where he is located. I live in Ga.

[@Thebigjosh233]

Bro, your awesome yes tell it like it is!!

[@tommorrow2627]

It's interesting how many times I've heard the message we should not neglect tge gathering together, yet on the only days we're actually command in Scripture to gather (Leviticus 23:3), Christianity rejects as legalism.

[@ladybugblu60]

Good teaching brother!

[@stevecrazy9491]

Yes, one good lesson. Well put and well explained.

[@rosetish2313]

Amen this is confirmation

[@simplydee2567]

Thank you! You have no clue how many videos I had to click on before I found your video.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

I’m glad you were able to find this video among so many others. The internet is full of religious tradition. Sometimes it takes some searching to find the little gems of truth mixed among all the lies and deception on the internet today. May the Lord continue to lead you in all truth. God bless you in your continued studies of His Word.

[@friend4ua724]

I met someone at church a few months ago who seemed interested in developing a friendship. I quit going to that church and when we talked on the phone she's quoted Hebrews 10:25. The communication with this person is becoming less frequent and even when we did talk she didn't really seem interested in talking about things of the Lord. I'm looking for genuine fellowship. If someone goes to church and calls them self a Christian but you cannot tell by their lifestyle or conversation, this is a problem.

[@BellaBankes]

YESSSS

[@jameslloyd7187]

I agree with you and fortunately there are pastors who also totally try to teach the word of God. The ones I have been fortunate to find never claim they are the church but that the people are and truly strive to make their gatherers a force for good in their community. I also think it is such a healthy attitude to have because it sets you free from spending a lot of your time in serving "the church" in regards to programs, meetings and activities that really do not serve others or are edifying spiritually. The positive thing about having a group meet in a home is that everyone can discuss and testify to truth instead of just listening to a pastor. The small groups that these non-denominational churches have actually provide a forum for that. I think that God is doing a marvelous work across the world and sites like this are a big part of that. We can "congregate" via internet and discuss and encourage/teach one another, even if it is just 2 of you.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Amen! All very great points! Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Just think about all the money that goes towards "church upkeep" that could be going towards other more important things for the Kingdom of God. I'm in total agreement with you that God is doing a marvelous work across the world, even though much of the media tries to make things appear as though they are getting worse. But the Kingdom of God is advancing and growing just like the Lord promised it would. We must walk by faith and not by sight.

[@huntsimple9527]

I thank God every day that my family did not expose me to any denominational church during my early life and that I don't have to overcome that false programming/teaching that comes with ALL denominational churches. By default, denomination means to divide. Just like money is divided into denominations 1, 5, 10, 20, 50 dollar bills etc. And, we know the last thing Christ wants is His Body of Believers, the ONE TRUE CHURCH, to be divided. Denominational churches are a huge part of Satan's plan to deceive and divide the Body of Christ. One thing for sure is that any denominations that are super popular and have large congregations are going to be teaching false doctrine. Why? Because the truth of Gospel of Jesus Christ is never going to be popular and have a large following. When we see large followings we can be assured their ears are being ticked with false teachings big time. I just found your channel 2 days ago and I am thankful for it.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Praise the Lord! I couldn’t agree more with everything you said.

[@victorjrmagpali966]

@gree1000 percent

[@wolfmannful]

Right on brother!!!

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Let's not go to church, let's be the Church! If we have been born again, we are the light of the world, a city set on a hill that cannot be hid, the New Jerusalem.

[@randyclark222]

@@ShatteringFalseFoundations enjoying your content, do you claim any specific denomination like UPC or Apostolic?

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

@@randyclark222 Glad to hear these have been a blessing to you in some way. I don't claim any man made labels to identify myself other than the body of Jesus Christ. I am a born again disciple of Jesus and I adhere to what the apostles taught regarding the gospel and how we obey the gospel in order to be born again and be translated into the kingdom of Jesus Christ. I guess many would consider me to be apostolic in my beliefs if we were to use labels, even though this label is used in other parts of the world to mean something entirely different than it does in North America. I have many friends who are part of denominations such as the UPC, but I myself am not a member of any denomination. I believe God wants to tear down denominational barriers so that all born again believers who are built on the foundation of the Church can join together in unity and purpose to see the kingdom of God spread as leaven through the entire earth. I believe every member of the body of Christ should be living out what Jesus declared in the great commission. All born again believers should be preaching the gospel and seeing people baptized, casting out devils so people can be set free, laying hands on the sick and seeing them healed in the power and authority of Jesus Christ. More and more people are waking up to this reality. Anyway, I hope these videos continue to bless you. I deal with a lot of subjects that I feel many people are confused about in the religious world today. God bless you in your continued studies! Please feel free to comment and ask more questions. I love discussing the Word of God with people.

[@randyclark222]

@@ShatteringFalseFoundations I do appreciate the reply. Do you have a Facebook? Also can you pray for my wife and I. We have both been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ and have received His Spirit but we feel like God is silent at the moment.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

@@randyclark222 I do not have a facebook page, but you can email me at [e-mail] and we can exchange other details by which we can communicate with one another. I'm glad to hear that both you and your wife have been born again. Don't get discouraged through the "silent times." He may be silent at the moment, but God is ever so present during those times. God has taught my wife and I so much through those times. It's part of growth/spiritual maturity. My wife and I would love to talk with you and your wife sometime and be able to share with you how God has led us and what He has taught us through the silent times. It's really just a matter of understanding and perspective. Understanding the Kingdom of God and current spiritual realities is really important. Many believers are feeling defeated because of a lack of knowledge regarding certain spiritual truths. Many religious denominations only go so far with these truths but God doesn't want there to be any barriers between Him and His body. Anyway, let me know if you would be interested in talking sometime and if not, feel free to converse with me through email. My wife and I will be praying for you. I assume your name is Randy. What is your wife's name? Be encouraged in the Lord! God bless you both.

[@KingJames4life]

Ty

[@jasond6770]

Amen Brother! Keep it going! Are you in the US? I'm in Oregon.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Thanks! Oregon is a great state with so much beauty all around. I am currently living on the coast in eastern Canada. I need to get back to doing more videos that have been on my heart for quite some time. Thanks for your encouraging comment.

[@jasond6770]

@Set Free Hood River is an awesome area! I'm in the Salem area.

[@stevecrazy9491]

Amazing young man with special insight to scripture. REALLY a good lesson. Where is this young man located? I am curious.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Thanks brother! I’m up in Nova Scotia, Canada.

[@stevecrazy9491]

@@ShatteringFalseFoundations Well you have a home here in Ga. United States,

[@katielee4892]

Told my Pastor yesterday that I wouldn't be at church this Sunday because I had a family lunch to attend to. His reply was rather unnerving. He gave the scripture in Luke 14:18 and told me it was a bad witness to my unbeliving family, to skip church and that it also harms the flock to not worship/fellowship together. Any advice?

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

I’m sorry to hear that. That puts you in an uncomfortable position. His use of Luke 14:18 is shocking. The context of that passage has nothing to do with a born again believer missing an assembly on the Lord’s day and I feel is being used to manipulate you into a fear-based response. I would pray about it and do what you feel God is leading you to do. Don’t be as concerned about what your pastor thinks as you are about doing something for the right reasons. Doing something out of fear from what the pastor said is not being led by the Spirit. I know what I would do in that situation but I don’t want to tell you what to do. Do what you know is the right thing to do as God leads you. It’s too bad he couldn’t have just given you his blessing and looked at it as an opportunity for you to be a witness and to spend time with family. Praying all works out according to God’s perfect will. Peace to you!

[@katielee4892]

@@ShatteringFalseFoundations Thank you very much. 💕😙

[@JokersWild139]

I would leave that church. That pastor is operating out of pride. He is working himself for God's approval and condemning you for not doing the same.

[@mobiletherapeuticsbyshaniq8501]

Great points. ❤️❤️ But the bigger problem is majority of church organizations or church gatherings are under the influence of the Roman Catholic's Gregorian calendar. I cannot follow Rome's unscriptural Gregorian calendar. I used to be SDA. 😭 I belong to no denominations or church gatherings. I pray to meet a sound teaching edifying church gathering that is not under the influence of the Roman Catholic's Gregorian calendar. 🙏🏼🙏🏼

[@touchofgrace3217]

The Body of Christ is not a 501(c). Verse 23 was about not losing faith and verse 26 was about the consequences of falling away from the faith. It doesn’t track that verse is simply about abandoning a church meeting. It makes more sense that “assembling of ourselves” was a direct reference to the Body of Christ which is an assembling of followers.

[@elijahsmith1074]

Someone really has a true relationship with Jesus They will want to go to church, and no fake church the one who teaches the truth

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Yes, a born again believer should desire to assemble with other born again believers. That’s where edification and growth can take place on a greater level than if one stays isolated. Sad thing is that most ”churches” today aren’t preaching the truth and are blending in with the world. Some people just don’t have anyone to fellowship with in the area they live. If we have genuine born again believers to assemble with we should be very thankful since many don’t.

[@elijahsmith1074]

Yes, a lot of people do not teach the truth differently

[@grounded7362]

The biggest problem is the twisting of the passage in Hebrews 10. The passage does NOT say forsake not, but states "Not forsaking", in reference to the verse just before it. Hebrews 10:24 (KJV) 24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works: And also the last half of verse 25 expounds even more on verse 24. Hebrews 10:25 (KJV) 25 .............................. but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching. To exhort is to lift up, to encourage. How many of the "churches" so called are lifting up an encouraging the the people. Does hearing someone tell you, you will always be a sinner, and you will always sin, you can't stop sinning, you are a sinner saved by grace, lift you up and encourage you? NO! Such words will never provoke a person to be like Christ. Such words will never provoke a person so love and good works. Yes we are saved by grace. But not by grace alone. We are save by grace through faith, OUR faith! Without true faith in God and Christ grace can do nothing to save. So back to the assembling together. To assembly with others we must be in agreement. YES? YES!!! Does this mean we assemble in what today is called "church" NO! It is nothing more than a building today. The Church is members of Christ, True believers. So many have forsaken the assembling together in Christ. Assembling spoken of in this passage is NOT about gather together in a building with others. It is about walking together in agreement, according to the Word of God. To gather with unbelievers in the "churches" today is rejecting the Word of God. The Word clearly tells us to have NO fellowship with them. The "churches today are full of unbelievers calling themselves brothers and sisters in Christ but do NOT walk after the manner of Christ. Lets look at what Paul has to say about such a matter. 2 Thessalonians 3:6 (KJV) 6 Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us. Paul is telling us we are to withdraw from such a brother or sister. NOT to gather with them on Saturday or Sunday in "church". We do NOT sit under the teaching of a man who is preaching another Gospel, another Christ. Such a person is to be cursed Paul says. Galatians 1:6-9 (KJV) 6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: 7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. 9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. We are NOT to join in fellowship with such persons. What else does Paul say on this matter? 1 Corinthians 5:11 (KJV) 11 But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. The "churches"today are full of such people as Paul points out in this passage. Paul stated we are "NOT to keep company" with them. We are NOT to eat (gather) gather with them. In order to assemble with one another in fellowship we must be in agreement. We CANNOT have fellowship with darkness, evil men, those living in sin, calling themselves a brother or sister in Christ. 1 John 1:5-7 (KJV) 5 This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. 6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: 7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin. Once again we see in this next passage we are NOT to have fellowship with such people as stated earlier. Ephesians 5:3-12 (KJV) 3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints; 4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks. 5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God. 6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. 7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them. 8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as children of light: 9 (For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;) 10 Proving what is acceptable unto the Lord. 11 And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. 12 For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret. We CANNOT go to "church" with them and still claim to be following Christ according to his Word. His Word is clear we are to "Have NO fellowship" with them. 2 Corinthians 6:14-18 (KJV) 14 Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness? 15 And what concord hath Christ with Belial? or what part hath he that believeth with an infidel? 16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. 17 Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you, 18 And will be a Father unto you, and ye shall be my sons and daughters, saith the Lord Almighty. We are NOT to be yoked together with unbelievers, to have NO fellowship with the unrighteousness. God is calling us to 'COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM". We are to be separate from those who are NOT walking in Christ according to HIS Word. So who is the assembly of God and Christ? Lets look. Hebrews 12:23 (KJV) 23 To the general assembly and church of the firstborn, which are written in heaven, and to God the Judge of all, and to the spirits of just men made perfect, The assembly and church are those whose name is written in heaven. Unbelievers and those walking in darkness, living in sin, their names are NOT written in heaven, even though they call themselves a brother or sister in Christ. We are to have NO fellowship with them. If we are NOT in agreement with one another according to the Word of God how can we walk together in fellowship? Amos 3:3 (KJV) 3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed? Philippians 3:15-19 (KJV) 15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you. 16 Nevertheless, whereto we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us mind the same thing. 17 Brethren, be followers together of me, and mark them which walk so as ye have us for an ensample. 18 (For many walk, of whom I have told you often, and now tell you even weeping, that they are the enemies of the cross of Christ: 19 Whose end is destruction, whose God is their belly, and whose glory is in their shame, who mind earthly things.) So as we can see from the Word of God we are NOT to have fellowship with those we know are NOT walking after Christ according to his Word, nor are we to sit under the teachings a man who is preaching things that do NOT agree with the Word of God 100%. For a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump. We are NOT to have fellowship, no company with those calling themselves a brother or sister in Christ. We are to admonish them. 2 Thessalonians 3:14-15 (KJV) 14 And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. 15 Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother. ADMON'ISH, v.t. [L. admoneo, ad and moneo, to teach, warn, admonish.] 1. To warn or notify of a fault; to reprove with mildness. Ezekiel 3:18-21 (KJV) 18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thine hand. 19 Yet if thou warn the wicked, and he turn not from his wickedness, nor from his wicked way, he shall die in his iniquity; but thou hast delivered thy soul. 20 Again, When a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteousness which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thine hand. 21 Nevertheless if thou warn the righteous man, that the righteous sin not, and he doth not sin, he shall surely live, because he is warned; also thou hast delivered thy soul. We see that Paul did NOT forsake the assembly but he did warn those who have in Verse 26 & 27 of Hebrews 10 Hebrews 10:26-27 (KJV) 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. Paul always lifted up and encouraged, provoking true brothers and sisters in Christ, unto love and to good works.

[@stevecrazy9491]

Wow you need your own site to preach what you're saying.

[@grounded7362]

@@stevecrazy9491 Hi Steve, I have not been called to a platform to share the word of truth. The Lord called me to wherever he leads. Sometimes it is here responding to something being taught in error, other times it is on the street or in the workplace or store, restaurant, in a crowd or one on one. My calling is a calling of accountability. To hold others accountable for what they are teaching and believing that when they stand before Christ they will be without excuse since they have been shown the truth. There are many days I wish I had not been called as it is very hard to watch people I truly care about heading in the wrong direction. I am going to have to witness many I care about take the mark of the beast, knowing they had the truth.

[@stevecrazy9491]

I agree, but we cannot forsake the assembly if we are the body. If you forsake the assembly then in my opinion you are never "born again." Hard for me to explain.

[@grounded7362]

@@stevecrazy9491 This is hard for you to explain, so let me provoke some thought with questions. What does it mean to assemble together? What do you consider assembling? And why should we assemble? What is the reason for assembling together as children of God?

[@stevecrazy9491]

@@grounded7362 The reason it's hard to explain is because my grammar skills are lacking. So explaining things on paper doesn't come easy for me.

[@paola-pd4xl]

if i can't go to church because of a chronic illness can i talk with christians and not going to church ?

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Did you watch this video? It will answer your question. If we have been born again we are the church. The church isn’t a building but is a body of believers. Watch the video all the way through and let me know if that answers your question.

[@jamessheffield4173]

What church did Abraham go to?

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Good point. The church has always been a congregation of the faithful. The New Testament sheds light on the proper understanding of church (ekklesia) and it is in reference to an assembly/congregation. Moses was in the “church” in the wilderness! This should really help people to understand the true meaning of church being the assembly of the faithful. The people are the church, not the building in which one gathers. An empty building is not the church. The people gathering are the church no matter the location. Acts 7:37-38 KJVS This is that Moses, which said unto the children of Israel, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear. [38] This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:

[@KD-nd6wb]

Dont judge people who go to “denominational” churches, especially when you are saying its wrong that they judge you for not wanting to be a part of them. True, God is not so interested where we are gathered. He does care who is gathered, in what name (Jesus), and in what Spirit (unity). So if it is a true gathering if believers are meeting together at a coffee shop in his name, so to it must be a true gathering if believers are meeting Sunday morning in a church building, even if they are weak in the faith. “So let’s stop criticizing each other. Instead, you should decide never to do anything that would make other Christians have doubts or lose their faith.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭14‬:‭13‬ ‭GW‬‬

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

If you take this video as criticism then you’ve missed the entire point. The true church has nothing to do with denominations or buildings. The true church is a body of born again believers. That’s the point of this video. Why leave a comment that begins with a false statement?

[@HOLLYWOODFL66]

There is a part of scripture that says study the show that self approval of work that need not to be ashamed rightly dividing the word of God paraphrasing I said all of that to say this there is a misunderstanding when we try to come from somebody else point of view and tell them what their mean and what they feel. I was raised in a "denominational" Church but to me it was just a church! a part of the body of Christ so just as you may say people may use in a "Denomination" church to judge people for not assembling themselves, will a person that don't go to a denomination of church can judge a person that goes to what they say is a "denomination" church, the point or the bottom line is that when you look in the Old testament God always use a leader he always use a profit he used a judge he used a mouthpiece that led his people, even in the New testament when they broke off from Temple worship they worship on the first day from house to house but God never intended for us to do away with the place of worship, everybody can't be the leader, if I can say that and so this is why we have the body of Christ, the House of Prayer, we have pastor, we have ministers we have missionaries we have deacons, because God intended for us to worship together not only to worship together but the work the ministry just as our body we have our hands our legs our feet when we go to the House of Prayer it's not just the sit there but it's to do ministry so if you can do ministry in your home fine if you can do ministry in the park fine but don't judge other people because they're in a denomination church because I guarantee you there are some non-denomination church it's just as whack as the ones that are in the denomination of church, we must rightly divided in the world of Truth and understanding what the word of the Lord said he said forget not to assemble thyself it don't matter if you're in the denomination church or in your home yes I agree with you but we need to rightly divide the word of God and we cannot do this thing on our own just like we cannot have an arm and don't have a shoulder or hand or neck or head because we're the body of Christ I went too long I ain't even said everything I want to say bye-bye Also a body of believers House of God that is established the right way will have checks and balance sometimes when we are in our home we're in the park where is the checks and balance? I think the problem is no one wants to be submitted to anyone else but be their own authority no one to answer to and that's not life because everything we do we have to answer and submit to someone else and that's the truth

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

I agree with much of what you have said as my video says much of the same things. We need to assemble as the body and there needs to be order and Spirit leading. But I’m afraid there’s way too many churches that are just going to church (playing church). They aren’t being Spirit led because they have too much structure and order and programs of how they want to do things and how they think things should go. To put yourself under someone that God hasn’t even called to preach is very dangerous. Better to not have any assembly than to have an assembly that will cause more problems than good. Modern day understandings of pastoral roles goes against the Word of God. The Pastor isn’t supposed to do it all but that’s what ends up happening how most churches are structured. This video isn’t getting people to look down upon anyone. It’s helping people to see outside the religious box that many people have sadly put themselves and God into. For many today, those whom God has led out of religion, they truly desire to assemble with a body of believers outside of religious denominational mindsets, but they find it very difficult to find other like minded believers who have been led away from “the church game.” These people are actually better off outside of a religious structure that was holding them down since now God can teach them and help them grow and be used how he desires them to be used and will eventually lead them to those called out of religion where they can gather together as the body if that’s what they are seeking. Most religious denominations don’t even understand the gospel the apostles preached and some who do have created so many rules and regulations/man made standards that are not found in the Word of God. The true Church should be able to reason together from the Word of God and should be worshipping the Lord in Spirit and truth. This is lacking in most “church buildings” that call themselves Christian. Could it be that God is tearing down denominational walls in our time because He wants to bring the true Body together outside of traditions? We don’t need to look down upon anyone who sees things differently but we shouldn’t just say nothing to people who are obviously doing things through a religious spirit that is doing nothing for them spiritually. This all goes back to a biblical understanding of the gospel and the born again experience and our understanding of the kingdom of God. Sadly most churches don’t understand these foundational truths and as long as they adhere to their religious traditions they will remain deceived.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

This video summarizes it well. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJK7eqhsqcmYY5Y

[@TheSwhite9]

Yes, we are the church and He hit some good points but how do people get Baptized? How does one get buried? Doesn't there have to be order and some kind of structure during this assembly? How does one know you are worshiping in spirit and in truth? Are you taking communion and who's in charge of Baptizing? If you gather at starbucks can you facilitate the proper procedures of a designated church building? Just curious, Church is operated as a business, it takes lights, water and gas to operate a building, does it not?

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Anyone who has been born again can baptize. Baptism is not a designation for only pastors. Jesus gave the great commission to the apostles and then told them to teach those who they baptized to observe all that Jesus commanded, which would include preaching the gospel and, therefore, baptizing repentant believers. Matthew 28:18-20 KJVS And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth. [19] Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: [20] Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen. Organization comes as the Holy Spirit leads and as maturity in the body takes place. The "organization" or structure that has been created in most of today's modern churches is not actually found in the Word of God. There most definitely needs to be order as we can understand from reading Paul's epistles to the Corinthians. 1 Corinthians 14:33,40 KJVS For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints. [40] Let all things be done decently and in order. 1 Corinthians 2:12-16 KJVS Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. [13] Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. [14] But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. [15] But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. [16] For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ. Communion can take place every time the assembly of born again believers takes place in remembrance of all that Jesus Christ did for us. The breaking of bread and drinking of wine always took place during an actual meal when the apostles and Jesus ate together. The modern "church" has turned it into a rare event only done once in a while. Yet Jesus said that we were to do this "as often as ye eat bread and drink from the cup." 1 Corinthians 11:23-26 KJVS For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, That the Lord Jesus the same night in which he was betrayed took bread: [24] And when he had given thanks, he brake it, and said, Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you: this do in remembrance of me. [25] After the same manner also he took the cup, when he had supped, saying, This cup is the new testament in my blood: this do ye, as oft as ye drink it, in remembrance of me. [26] For as often as ye eat this bread, and drink this cup, ye do shew the Lord's death till he come. Gathering at Starbucks may not be the best place for an assembly since it's a public space. But ultimately we allow the Holy Spirit to lead. Starbucks would be a better place for evangelism and witnessing to take place. If you hear the entire message of this video, you will understand that I'm not saying one shouldn't have an actual building designated for gathering that requires upkeep and maintenance. The message was with regards to how we view the church. The "church" according to Scripture are born again believers. The church is not a physical building. Many believers need to stop placing so much emphasis on the building and stop calling it the house of God. The believers are the building, the church (called out ones). The people are the temple of the Holy Ghost. Romans 12:4-5 KJVS For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: [5] So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. 1 Corinthians 3:8-11 KJVS Now he that planteth and he that watereth are one: and every man shall receive his own reward according to his own labour. [9] For we are labourers together with God: ye are God's husbandry, ye are God's building. [10] According to the grace of God which is given unto me, as a wise masterbuilder, I have laid the foundation, and another buildeth thereon. But let every man take heed how he buildeth thereupon. [11] For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

[@ernestmontanez5287]

Quick question: In Malachi 3. Where does God tell us to bring our tithes. In a house or in his Storehouse and house. He says mine house? Is God saying my and your house or a person and not a building or church. Is God double minded. Why would God tell.us to bring our tithes and offering to his house. I don't have the time to talk about that, but the point is God has always had a physical house and we are commanded by God to take care of his church. His nm physical building. From Leviticus to Corthenians to Ephesus or Thessalonians. God has people assigned to a particular body or church. Amen

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Judging from this comment along with your other comments on this video I can conclude that either you didn't watch this entire video all the way through or you misunderstand what I have presented. Did you take the time to watch the entire video all the way through and hear the entire matter? In all of your comments, you seem to be holding very tightly to Old Covenant matters while not recognizing New Covenant fulfillment and realities in Jesus Christ. With regards to Malachi 3, that was a prophecy to disobedient Israel during Old Testament days when the physical temple was still standing, before the New Covenant was established in the blood of Jesus Christ. But according to the New Testament, God isn't telling us to bring tithes anywhere. The priests were commanded to take tithes of the people according to the law (Hebrews 7:5). But we are not under the law anymore, rather we are under grace. There is now giving and receiving according to the New Covenant (Philippians 4:15). Malachi is very clearly referring to when the temple was still standing before it was destroyed by the Roman armies in 70 AD. Malachi 3:1 speaks of Jesus Christ and how He actually came to the temple back in the first century. Malachi 4:5 speaks of John the Baptist. So to use these Scriptures to argue that physical buildings are the house of God (the Storehouse) is not rightly dividing the word of truth. The church is very clearly the people of God, not the buildings we gather in. That's what the Greek word for church actually means; the called out ones/congregation. It has nothing to do with a building. True, the people of God can gather in any building, but that building in and of itself never becomes the "house of God." Religious tradition and denominationalism has deceived people into believing it has to do with gathering in a particular building that many have wrongly called the church or the house of God. God no longer dwells in temples or buildings made with hands. God now dwells in the temple's of born again believer's hearts. Here's a video I did on understanding "the church" according to Scripture: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqa9o2Oimc-ch5I 2Co 6:16 And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Act 7:48 Howbeit the most High dwelleth not in temples made with hands; as saith the prophet, Act 17:24 God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; Heb 9:11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Jesus Christ is very clearly not a high priest over a physical building. Rather, he is high priest over a house not made with hands, that is the people of God (the body of Christ). Heb 3:6 But Christ as a son over his own house; whose house are we, if we hold fast the confidence and the rejoicing of the hope firm unto the end. Notice how in this next verse that the apostle Peter connects the house of God with the people when he says "us" and not with a building. 1Pe 4:17 For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God? The house and temple of God under the Old Covenant of law was always connected with carnal, earthly, and physical buildings. But now under the New Covenant of grace, the house and temple of God is referring to the body of Christ, Jesus Christ being the ultimate "temple of God" and those who are baptized into Jesus Christ are united with Him and become the temple of God through Jesus Christ. Joh 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. Mar 14:58 We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands. Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. Rom 12:5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. Jesus Christ is the focus of the true temple of God. It's no longer about focusing on physical buildings. That's religious tradition and the reason why denominationalism is so dangerous. Again, if you watched this entire video you would realize that I am not against the people of God gathering in buildings, rather I'm against calling the building where people gather the church. Anywhere the people of God gather is considered the church. Where two or three are gathered together in the name of the Lord, He is in their midst. This isn't popular in today's religious world, but it's what the Word of God establishes for all to see. Usually the people who disagree with what I've presented in this video are people who adhere to one particular denomination as being the church. I will now respond to your other comments.

[@thegoodlifejourney6421]

My Mother uses the "personal relationship" quote to refuse from gathering in His name in any form. She also refuses to read scripture in a similar manner...I mean she shares quotes on FB to look the part but that's it. The result of this is a tribulent life far from Christ.

[@dmitriivulpe7658]

Brother, the main issue that I see in your Christian walk is rejection of church membership. I would highly encourage you to read books by 9 Marks ministries and learn how biblical it is and how crucial it is for your soul's health and for the witness to the lost.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

What do you mean by church membership? Are you referring to being a member of a physical denominational building? I don't reject church membership as discussed in God's Word. I recognize what the Word of God says regarding all born again believers who have obeyed the gospel (Acts 2:38) and how they are all members of the body of Christ. There is only one body of Christ and no building with a denominational title meets that. Anyone who has obeyed the gospel has been baptized into Jesus Christ, not into some physical building made with man's hands. I assemble frequently with a local body of believers in my community for fellowship, prayer, worship, and discussing the Word of God. As the body, we also go out and preach the gospel; seeing people repent, baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and filled with the Holy Spirit. Devils are frequently cast out of people so that they can experience a life of freedom in Christ through obeying the gospel. God is building His church worldwide and each person who obeys the gospel and is born again is placed as a stone in the building of God. This is how the church should operate, but sadly religion has twisted the true understanding of what/who the church is. We don't go to church, we as born again believers are the church. 1 Peter 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ. 1 Corinthians 3:9 For we are labourers together with God: ye are God’s husbandry, ye are God’s building. Ephesians 2:19-22 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit. Colossians 1:24 Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body’s sake, which is the church: 1 Corinthians 3:16 Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you? 1 Corinthians 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular. Ephesians 4:25 Wherefore putting away lying, speak every man truth with his neighbour: for we are members one of another. Ephesians 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

[@demetriusmiddleton1246]

@@ShatteringFalseFoundations But didn't paul write his epistles to SPECIFIC churches in SPECIFIC locations? Yes, we are all members of ONE body in Christ, but the various churches in certain locations are also a type of body. A good analogy is our actual bodies. Our organs are made up of cells. The local church is like an organ. We are like cells. I agree with your stance that some simply take this too far and essentially preach legalism. But, dont throw the baby out with the bathwater. The examples of the various churches in the New testament, and the specific people who were named at specific churches demonstrates that church membership is indeed a good thing.

[@stevecrazy9491]

I don't see that at all. Plus joining a church denomination means what? Me sitting in my garage doesn't make me a car, no more than an non born again believer make him a Christian. He can attend, do great works but is he saved? Now I judge no one so you'll have to answer that one.

[@Gailsjournal]

We ( born again in Christ) are members of the body of Christ , we belong to one another. Simple.

[@ernestmontanez5287]

Good morning. After listening to your video. Can you explain Hewbrews 10 :21 "Over the house of God" if Hebrews 10:25 Is not talking about the physical building what is verse 21 talking about. I do read the scripture, and understand that we are the temple of God. I do understand that we can worship God anywhere. But Psalms 133 tells how beautiful it is for us too dwell in Unity. This corporate gather. We must rightly divided Gods word. We can not take one scripture and make a doctrine or exhort people to not be apart of a Quote physical building. Why did God institute His five fold ministry. Even sheep have a Shepherd in a field, or a particular field. If sheep are.allowed just to wondering around without protection " the wolf could attack them" The scripture warns concerning being a busy body, sowing discord among the Brother or body of Christ. We not called to prostilite. Some people really believe they should not attend church. In Acts.we have to understand that when they went house to house it was because they were being prosecuted. But let's read the rest God added daily to the CHURCH. Hum! Paul was very clear in his epistle to the church of Corinth. Also to a young Pastor Timothy concerning be vessels in the house of God. Paul said some.to honor and dis honor. The House of God. Although this could mean US, the temple of God. But this speaking of the physical building of the church. Finally Paul encouraged the church to come together, why so the day of the Lord will not catch us unaware. God has Ordain Ministers in the church to feed his sheep! So I am hoping that you are not saying " don't go to church or belong to anyplace were God has " Set some of US" in place. God has order in his body. He not the author of confusion but of peace. From Moses to Paul and even more Jesus. Jesus was taught daily in the temple. I do understand what you are saying about open worship anywhere. But to say that God has not Ordain church buildings would contradict the book of revelation to the 7 churches whom Jesus spoke to John about. The state of being or condition he found his church in. It is the people and not a physical building. But he stated church. A building cannot be luke warm. People our. Thank you. Can you tell me if you believe God has called each or families to a particular body. People do go to several doctors for help, but normally the specialist refers his patients back to His family doctor. Thank you and God speed. I am also study this book. I am looking at the words " AS YOU SEE THE DAY APPROACHING" what does God word tells us. The rapture or catching away does.not need events as the second coming does. But what was the Author saying. We don't know if Paul was the writer. I did mention his name. Thank you

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

The house of God under the New Covenant is referring to the people of God (the corporate body of Christ). It is not referring to a building. Hebrews 10:21 is referring to Jesus being a high priest over the people of God. I'm in no way against the corporate gathering of born again believers. The entire point of this video was to get people to understand that the corporate body of believers is the church of the living God, the body of Jesus Christ. The body of believers is the church. In this video, I never told anyone to not be a part of a corporate body. I just emphasized that the physical building itself is of no significance. It can change from day to day and God still tabernacles in the midst of His people wherever they gather together in His name. I'm also not encouraging "church hopping" either (unless the Lord leads in that way). I think it's important to pray for and seek a local assembly to be a part of, but I also believe in outreach where as the body we then go out among other "denominations" who may lack an understanding on important truths to be able to reason together with them from the Word of God and show them the way more perfectly (Acts 18:26). I'm not against the five-fold ministry. I believe it is how God brings edification to the church as a whole. Here's a video I did on the importance of the five-fold ministry and how God uses it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/sILOhqebe9StgK8 If someone is "in Christ" they are not just "wandering around" since Jesus Christ is the Good Shepherd. He's the ultimate Shepherd of the Sheep and He's the ultimate Pastor (Bishop). This doesn't mean that there shouldn't be men as pastors, it just means that even pastors have an ultimate Pastor over them, namely Jesus Christ. Heb 13:20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting covenant, 1Pe 2:25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls. 1Pe 5:4 And when the chief Shepherd shall appear, ye shall receive a crown of glory that fadeth not away. Joh 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd. Born again believers are all many members of one body. I believe that God is the One building His church and He forms local fellowships and assemblies all over the world. He doesn't unite local bodies through denominational titles, rather He unites local bodies through Jesus Christ and the born again experience as we read about in Acts 2:38. The church is made up of called out ones who are separated from the world and aren't caught up into religious tradition. So much more could be said, but I feel this should suffice to help you to see that I'm not speaking against the gathering together of local fellowships. All I'm saying is that the building a local fellowship gathers in is not the focus nor is it of any significance in light of the New Testament. Thanks for taking the time to comment and be sure to check out the videos I posted so you can understand more of where I'm coming from. God bless you in your continued studies!

[@jamesobrien5782]

Your still a bunch of sad people. Argue over a gnat and swallow a fly.

[@kaylashryock2743]

The verse addresses those who specifically aren’t assembling, however they may justify it. The word of God still and forever stands, “Do not forsake assembling together, as are in the matter of some”. Entertaining the denominational argument is not good here, there are non denominational churches all over the place. Also we are sheep, and sheep need a sheepfold in order to be safe. If you don’t have a sheepfold something is wrong and you are lost. This may be God calling you back to the sheepfold today, he will lead you in and out. If you can find a a house church great, there are so many ways you can find believers if you ask, and seek. But the best way and the quickest way is through a church. Go quickly, as the time is short. If you open your heart and ask God he will lead you to the right church there is no need to be afraid for God gave us not a spirit of fear, but of power and love, and a sound mind. Avoiding out of pride is not good either, in that case you oppose God and God opposes you.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

So you are in agreement with what I’ve shared in this video? Another point to be made is that there are many people gathering into what they think are sheepfolds that are actually just a herd of goats where the blind lead the blind. Only those who have been born again are the church. Everyone else is just playing a religious game that won’t get them anywhere. We must be living a life of victory in Jesus Christ or we can go to church religiously and still be lost. The building we gather in isn’t the church. The church can be as small as 2 people gathering together for where two or three are gathered in His name, He is there. But I definitely agree that we need the body of Christ. God never intended us to walk the walk of faith alone.

[@inHimken]

Nice 10.25.21

[@Dexion845]

That verse is actually talking about the assembling together to meet Christ in the air, which happens at the rapture of the church. Not regular church groups. Which is why the verse continues to mention “That Day” approaching... that day being the day of Christ.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

I'm going to have to disagree with you and point out the entire context of that verse. We must remember that Hebrews was written to Jewish Christians of the first century before the destruction of Jerusalem that took place in 70 AD. It was written to Jews who had been born again and were placed under a New Covenant with God. As part of the entire church body, there were some Jewish Christians currently at that time that were forsaking the assembling of themselves together with other believers. This is why the writer of Hebrews says "as the manner of some is." It was a current reality back then at that time. He was telling them not to be like those who had currently refused to assemble together with other members of the body of Christ. This in no way is talking about the rapture of the church. The day that was approaching was the coming judgment upon apostate Jerusalem for crucifying their Messiah which actually took place in 70 AD when Jerusalem was destroyed by Roman armies and the temple laid waste. Over one million unbelieving Jews were slaughtered, fulfilling the words of Jesus in Matthew 23 and 24. All born again believers heeded the warnings of Jesus and escaped the city and fled to the hills of Judea before the desolation took place.

[@ronjordan2831]

That's interesting. When you attend church, do you ever attend churches that you know believe differently than you? There's only trinity churches around me. Or Seven Day Adventists.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Yes, we have attended other congregations, but obviously we can't join together in agreement and ministry with them if they preach a different gospel than what the apostles preached. God is so amazing in answering prayer and bringing the Body together. Meeting in homes is what we do most and God has connected us with others who understand who Jesus really is and who preach the gospel the apostles preached. This is the foundation that the Church is built upon, so we need to assemble with people who worship God in Spirit and in truth. Whereabouts do you live? I may be able to connect you with other fellow believers in your area that are not part of any denomination that assemble together as the Body and hold to the doctrine of Christ.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

@Know The Word KJV Hey Shannon, praise the Lord that you are building your life on the Rock of Jesus Christ! It's not easy in today's religious world to step out of denominationalism, as sadly it comes with lots of unrighteous judgment and condemnation by many. Jesus must be our focus and assembling with the Body of Christ outside of man-made religious walls and traditions is very important. I received your email and will try and get around to emailing you back very soon. I'm a lobster fisherman and this is the busiest time of year for me, but Lord willing I'll get to writing you soon. I've been praying for you and trusting that the Lord will reveal to you all that you need to know and understand for total freedom in those areas of your life in which you shared with me. But as for connecting with the Body of Christ in Bakersfield, I don't know anyone personally there, but the following church may be worth checking out: www.alcoildale.com It is an apostolic church, but I don't know anything about whether it is a strict denominational church or not. Judging from what I've read about them, they seem very grounded in the truth and there's nothing in their beliefs that put up any red flags. It's worth checking out and seeing how the Lord leads. I'm not sure about England, though there are lots of congregations to assemble with there I'm sure. I will be sure to let you know if I come across someone who knows of other believers in that area. God bless and keep you!

[@alphonsodaffin4054]

Be careful about your words, If someone fall because of your words you can be held responsible for it.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Amen, that’s why I stick to what the Word of God says about “church” and not about what the traditions of man have turned it into. All the pastors world wide are going to be held responsible who teach their congregants that the building they gather in is the church/house of God. Where’s the Scripture for that? All born again believers make up the church, the temple of the Holy Ghost.

[@louisjordan4702]

Well, to add to what was being said here, if somebody’s truly a believer, they shouldn’t even be going to an assembly or worship service on Sunday in the first place. That was all created by the Roman Catholic Church, who saw fit, thinking it had its own authority to actually do away with the Sabbath, and change it from Saturday to Sunday or the seventh day to the first day of the week. We’re instructed in the 10 Commandments to remember the sabbath day and to keep it holy that was never on the first day of the week or Sunday. Sunday is the day of Sun worship for Rome. just like the Catholic Church was responsible for changing the calendar system starting with the Julian calendar, created by Julius Caesar now the Gregorian calendar created by pope Francis Gregory. Remember it says in the book of Daniel he will seek to change times and laws.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

The day of the week that we worship does not matter at all under the New Covenant. Jesus is our eternal Sabbath and we are supposed to rest in Him every single day of the week. Matthew 11:28-30 KJVS [28] Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. [29] Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. [30] For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. The following series of mine goes into great depth on this subject for any who are interested in digging deep into the Word: kzbin.info/aero/PLo_7oh9llbNYOu6i3Ji1C_s9W-3x1jyJD Now with regards to Bible prophecy and the fulfillment of Daniel one needs to consider the context regarding the last days that were being prophecied about. It was speaking of the last days of the Old Covenant system of animal sacrifices and culminated in the destruction of Jerusalem and its temple by the Roman armies in 70 AD. The first five videos of this series helps one to see that Jesus already is seated on the throne of David in heaven, ruling and reigning as King of kings and Lord of lords. kzbin.info/aero/PLo_7oh9llbNbANkmzYC6Ju3-2y2PQ5-2s Lord bless you in your continued studies and as you consider these things as you look into the Word of God.

[@louisjordan4702]

@@ShatteringFalseFoundations when the Catholic Church is the one that completely changed the Sabbath altogether twice removed. If you wanna go to an assembly on Sunday the day of sun worship go right ahead.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

@@louisjordan4702 Like I said, Jesus is our eternal sabbath (rest) if we've been born again. Who cares what the Catholic church did to twist anything. Jesus remains the same every day of the week and our resting in Him takes place every single day of the week. We most often assemble on a Saturday, but that's not out of an Old Covenant obligation. The day of the week doesn't matter. God knows whether you're worshipping Him or whether you are worshipping the sun. Sun worship can take place every single day of the week by pagans. Just like born again believers can worship God on every single day of the week. Jesus is our eternal sabbath!

[@connasullivan86]

So how are we to have elders and deacons like were told to have in the New Testament. I agree that we are placing too much importance on THE BUILDING, but don’t we need to be under Godly leadership?

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Yes we do need leadership in the church. If you watched the entire video, I’m not speaking against having elders and deacons nor am I speaking against assembling together as believers. I’m speaking against a mentality that believes the church building itself is of any significance. We don’t go to church, we are the church. The assembling of the body can take place anywhere (outside, in our homes, in a public building). The people make up the church. And nowhere does it say we join a church or denomination when we are born again. We are baptized into Jesus Christ and as believers can gather together with other saints anywhere and worship God in spirit and in truth. Leadership is especially important for discipleship and the entire body working together as pastors, prophets, evangelists, apostles, and teachers which is how we are edified and washed by the spoken Word of God. God will always appoint certain leaders in the body but it doesn’t need to look like what the religious world has turned it into. Hope this helps answer your question. Blessings of peace!

[@imafriend1336]

Really,,, this is the PERFECT description of the church of Laodecia,, these are those that the laity tells the ministry what to do, neither hot nor cold, rich and in need of nothing, that word nothing there means a pastor or the ministry.That you can just go among other so called believers and do your own thing,, you are overriding the foundation, the 5 fold ministry was set up by God, and you are encouraging others to disobey,The truth always comes out of the ministry,,, and false doctrine always comes out of the congregation,,, ALWAYS,,,Why then are you wanting so bad to meet with other so called believers, but not under the authority of the ministry, This makes you a wolf in sheeps clothing, the gratifying feeling you get from doing what you are doing is feeding your ego, it's the taste of sheeps blood clenched in your teeth, you are not feeding the flock, the flock belongs to God.And is in the house of God, if I were you I would take these vids down, and stop tempting God, Repent of this wickedness, and get in the security of a true house of God, in Jesus name.Now you told me to go into detail,,,,, how much do you want.,,,, there is a lot more.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

The Greek word for "nothing" does not mean pastor or ministry. You want it to mean that so you twist the passage of Scripture to place me in the same status as the church of Laodecia. Besides, you assume I have no pastor and that I don't go to "church" and make all of these accusations before finding that out. You want me to answer your question so you can label me and place me in a box. If I don't jump into the UPCI box, then I'm all of a sudden labeled as a perfect example of someone from the church of Laodecia. Your denominational glasses allow you to only see things narrowly and from your organization's perspective. You look at only people in your UPCI circle as the chosen ones and everyone else as nothing. This is not right or Scriptural. Can't you see that you judge unrighteous judgment by doing this. You get angry when I reveal that wherever born again believers gather together as the body of Christ is the "House of God." The House of God can be in the middle of the forest or a field without any physical building. Where two or three born again believers are gathered together in the name of Jesus, there is Jesus in our midst. Plus, every single born again Christian is the temple or house of the Holy Spirit. Modern day denominational "churches" have turned this true understanding into a business by calling the building itself the house of God. We are the temple of the Holy Ghost if the Holy Ghost dwells in us, not the next building that the UPCI or any other denomination puts together. Calling a physical building the house of God reveals your ignorance of the fact that the true Church is not a building or denomination. You are totally mistaken if you believe that the 5 fold ministry is the foundation of the Church. The foundation of the Church is the apostles and the prophets of old with Jesus Christ being the Chief Cornerstone. Every other born again believer is a stone placed on that solid foundation. The 5 fold ministry today is composed of people on top of that foundation, not as that foundation. Ephesians 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; This doesn't say anything about being built upon pastors, teachers, prophets, evangelists, and apostles of modern times from the UPCI church or any other denominational church. To believe this would place yourselves in the same box as the mormons where the 5 fold ministry tells everyone what to do and how to live because they actually believe the 5 fold ministry is part of the foundation. You say the truth always comes out of the ministry today. Correct me if I'm wrong, but another way of saying that is "modern day ministry (UPCI) is the truth." Jesus told us that He alone was the way, the truth, and the life. Nowhere does he say the UPCI is the truth. You say false doctrine ALWAYS comes out of the congregation but where do you have Scripture to biblically back up that belief? Nowhere! There are multitudes of pastors today (even in the UPCI) preaching false doctrine which is why you see so many people being led astray throughout every single denomination that exists. They put all of their trust into a pastor as if a pastor can never be wrong. This isn't wise, since Jesus Christ is our Head. We need to study to show ourselves approved unto God. By study, it's not saying to swallow everything your pastor tells you hook, line, and sinker. A pastor can be wrong at times and if the body of Christ is operating as it should, the pastor should be able to receive correction from someone in the assembly. But you never see this happen as it should in denominational churches where the pastor is placed on some pedestal. I am not encouraging others to disobey God by putting together this video. I am telling people to let God be true and every man a liar. If you don't see it in the Word of God, then don't believe it. Desiring to meet together with other believers is a biblical concept. But what do you mean by ministry and me not desiring to be under the authority of the ministry? By ministry do you mean UPCI? I see every single person who has truly been born again as having a ministry. When we gather together as believers and allow the Holy Spirit to lead us and we operate in the gifts of the Spirit, that is the ministry. It's not intended to be some hierarchy as it is in denominational churches today. Come out from among her and be ye separate. We don't need denominational boxes, we need Jesus and the leading of His Spirit to obey the great commission and walk in the ministry to which we are called. This is the body of Christ in operation today where we reason together from the Word of God and are there for one another to edify, correct, exhort, encourage, and at times rebuke. It doesn't have to look like denominational churches have turned it into, many playing church and going to church instead of being THE CHURCH. I am already in the security of the true House of God because I am in Christ, a new creation. I encourage you to think about what you say before you say it and to reflect on the motive behind your statements.

[@imafriend1336]

Where 2,agree I am in their midst is no talking about people, it's a spiritual matter and the church in laodecia, is naked , blind,,,etc. the only way you ca be clothed is by having gold tried in the fire, that's preaching, from the pastor, the 7!angles to the 7 churches are the pastors. In 2nd Timothy, Paul addressed and said that spirit of fear is not of God, explaining that the opposite of love is not hate but fear is, then 26, years later John wrote to that same church, to return to their first love, Timothy was the bishop of that church, 26 years and still operating in fear, and Paul was his pastor.,,, yet you think you can do this on your own, with no pastor, if you do not have a pastor, you are not among the churches, also you will not be the work of the ministry, you will be self made,, filthy rags the Bible calls it. And you've not told me who your pastor is, who is it,, I'd love to talk to him, I already know you don't have one. It's very obvious, but I will tell you, if you keep on trying to cast pearls before swine, then the last thing you will loose is your testimony, as you already have a twisted message, you have not the ministry, nor the love of God, like I said you had to go to church to get baptized, but now what started in the Spirit is being made perfect in the flesh, as your internet congregation is flesh and you are agreeing with them and they with you, the work of the flesh. The bride of Christ is Spirit. There is security in the multitude of council, this multitude is the ministry, ,,, i.e., I will not sit in the council of the ungodly, what do you think the congregation is, they are the council of the ungodly, aka the church of Laodecia. ,,,, who did you say your pastor is??

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

I don't need to go back into religion, but I do agree that I need the body of Christ. I just disagree that the body of Christ is a particular denomination. Where two or three are gathered together in the name of Jesus, whether it be a spiritual matter or a physical gathering it doesn't matter, He is there. There is a principle with regards to those who gather together in the name of Jesus and to say that's not true of some just because they're not part of a denominational church is to twist Scripture. You say the only way we can be clothed is by having gold tried in the fire. But where is your Scripture to back this up. Anyone is clothed if they have been born again and have put on Christ in water baptism. To teach otherwise is to become the judge of someone God has called out of darkness and robed in His righteousness and telling them that God has not clothed them. Stop calling people naked if you have no idea whether that is true or not... very unwise. Plus you've never even met me or know the details of my Church gathering here where I live. I don't know where you came up with the idea that I think I can do this on my own with no pastor. You have jumped to all these conclusions that I never said anything about. Nowhere did I say that we don't need pastors. If so, please tell me at what moment in my video I said that. What we don't need is religion and denominational boxes to place ourselves into. We shouldn't put a denominational title on the body of Christ. You can't agree with this because you are a denominational Christian and will always see things from your denomination's perspective until you step outside of that box. There are thousands of born again, God fearing, truth loving, anointed pastors preaching the full gospel the apostles preached and who are teaching the Word of God without denominational glasses hindering what they can speak who are not part of any denomination. God is calling and has called His people out of denominationalism because it unnecessarily divides the body of Christ over petty issues and paints a false picture of what the body of Christ looks like and how it should be operating. Just a warning to let you know that you will be held accountable for your statements above towards me, as they are serious judgments. To tell someone they have not the love of God is a serious thing if you are wrong and is something that should be repented of. Your comments are entirely denominational and not Scriptural. I was not baptized into a physical building or clothed with the righteousness of a denominational pastor, but I was baptized into Jesus Christ and clothed with His righteousness. You speak words of fear and condemnation, which are not of God. This is the thing about denominationalism, if you are seriously entrenched in that mindset, it is very easy to label others and condemn others that may not see things exactly how you see them, even if they are truly born again. This is exactly what you have done with me. Again, let me tell you loud and clear so that you can stop making all these false accusations. I believe pastors are important and necessary as much as teachers, prophets, evangelists, and apostles are necessary. Just because I don't have a pastor with a denominational mindset, does not mean I don't have a pastor. Besides, I have a Bishop that is above all earthly bishops. 1 Peter 2:25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls. Jesus knows how to do His job as Shepherd and Bishop of my soul. Nowhere have I told you that you were not of God or that you don't have the love of God. I have made no statement judging your salvation. What I have done is made statements regarding your denominational mindset which you obviously have not liked. All of what I've shared with you could be something God wants you to consider. To leave a denomination for many people is extremely difficult because that denomination has become their identity. In the end, you can totally disagree with me on this point, but that doesn't mean you should label me as someone who doesn't have the love of God.

[@joycelynsamuels6617]

You all can try to justify the words of God. What he says is what he says. Hebrews 10 verse 25. Means exactly what it says.The clubbers go to the club to party. The alcohol drinkers go to the bar to satisfy their alcoholic appetite.The ungodly visit the brothel to do sexual bussiness. So what is wrong with the able believer congregate @ the house of the Lord to fellowship and worship the Lord Jesus Christ? Do not be deceived by the devil.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Your comment reveals your ignorance in light of what was presented in this video. Best to hear an entire matter before responding. I’m not saying that we don’t need the body of Christ. I’m saying the body of Christ isn’t a building. Please watch the entire video.

[@sunnyjohnson992]

Is it necessary to belong to a religion? Hebrews 10:25 uses the phrase “not forsaking our meeting together.” Those words show that God DOES want people to gather as an organized group for worship. But would each worshipper have his or her own interpretation of who God is and what he requires? No! The Bible says that those who worship in a way that God approves “should all speak in agreement” and “be completely united in the same mind and in the same line of thought.” (1 Corinthians 1:10) They would be organized into congregations and would “have love for the whole association of brothers” worldwide. (1 Peter 2:17; 1Corinthians 11:16) Such United and Organized worship is necessary in order to please God.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

It’s not necessary to belong to a religion, but it is necessary to be born again and be a true disciple of Jesus. What you have said is true and is in agreement with what I’ve shared in this video, but united and organized worship doesn’t have to be through a modern day denominational understanding of “church.” The location/building that born again believers gather in isn’t the church. The people are the church! Hebrews 10:25 shouldn’t be used by anyone to condemn someone who doesn’t “go to church” how they have determined that to mean according to their denominational mindset.

[@demetriusmiddleton1246]

But didn't paul write his epistles to SPECIFIC churches in SPECIFIC locations? Yes, we are all members of ONE body in Christ, but the various churches in certain locations are also a type of body. A good analogy is our actual bodies. Our organs are made up of cells. The local church is like an organ. We are like cells. I agree with your stance that some simply take this too far and essentially preach legalism. But, dont throw the baby out with the bathwater. The examples of the various churches in the New testament, and the specific people who were named at specific churches demonstrates that church membership is indeed a good thing.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Thanks for commenting! I think you may have misunderstood my main point in this video regarding denominationalism. I am speaking against church membership with regards to denominationalism. True born again believers are not members of a denomination but members of the body of Christ who have been baptized into the body of Christ and not some denomination. The body of Christ is not a denomination with a manmade title attached to it, but is all people of faith in Jesus Christ. I agree with you that local church congregations are extremely important where born again believers assemble together as the body in the area they live, but church membership to a denomination where someone signs up to be a "member" of that denomination is not Scriptural. I myself am part of a local fellowship (body of believers) in my area, in which we worship the Lord and grow together as the body in our area, but I also recognize that whoever has been born again by faith in the gospel (Acts 2:38) is my brother or sister in the Lord because they are of the same body that we are, even though they might not ever attend our local fellowship. So I am in agreement with you to a certain degree, but it is not with regards to denominationalism. There are a lot of people in various church "denominations" who are not even a real member of the body of Christ because they have not really obeyed the gospel. They can go to a local church all they want, pay tithes, and sing with the choir, but that doesn't mean they are members of the body of Christ. We must be born again! The focus is on Jesus Christ, not a denomination.

[@stevecrazy9491]

They never built a church to assemble in. NONE, was ever mentioned. They met in homes and actually synagogues. Of course people do not believe this or understand this.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

@@stevecrazy9491 So true! And unfortunately lots of money is wasted on up keeping expensive buildings rather than pooling that money into outreach and serving others in the community.

[@stevecrazy9491]

My opinion they had meeting places. Not mega building as you see today and not building built JUST to assemble but churches in certain places, and homes. I'm also saying what the young man is saying. The TRUE church, the Ekklessia is us , all those in Christ are the body , the church, the called out ones.

[@shanerivers3761]

The church, the body of Jesus are those who repented, were water bsptized in Jesus name and received the baptism of the Holy Ghost. Very few have enteted the Kingdom of God and few can see it. Acts2:38

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Amen brother!

[@reasy1978]

Water baptism is not required.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

@@reasy1978 Let's allow the Word of God to speak: Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. 1 Peter 3:20-21 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: Galatians 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. Romans 6:3-4 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life. Gospel Series: kzbin.info/aero/PLo_7oh9llbNZAqbRChaNccCdByN3i_E-e Water Baptism series: kzbin.info/aero/PLo_7oh9llbNZ2GrHzabwK-uXkKwf64Hgk

[@gracetou8963]

There is nothing but twisting the word of God ,cherry picking , leaving out facts and context going on . Follow the money and you will nothing but deception ,greed , dishonesty and disobedience to the truth . Hath God said? Satan is well in the man maid church system.

[@KD-nd6wb]

“The TRUE church has nothing to do with denominations or buildings” - you just wrote this. This is not true. It is judgmental. It is also divisive. “Through the peace that ties you together, do your best to maintain the unity that the Spirit gives. There is one body and one Spirit. In the same way you were called to share one hope.” ‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭4‬:‭3‬-‭4‬ ‭GW‬‬ I pray you see the intention of the Lord.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Denominations divide the body. The church is not a denomination or a building. That is a true statement supported by the Word of God. I could argue you are being judgmental and divisive right now by the standards you are using to determine those things. Stop reading things into the facts presented. Consider watching a video about the ekklesia in order to fully understand my heart and intentions in this video. The Word of God is clear that the church is a people called out of darkness into the light of Jesus, not a particular denomination or a building. Most denominations make people think their denomination is “the church.” A Deeper Understanding of the Church: Ekklesia - Acts 7:38; Hebrews 12:23 kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqa9o2Oimc-ch5I

[@KD-nd6wb]

The Church is not a denomination or building, right. We understand l. But denominations and buildings do have and house many who are in and a part of Gods Church. We should love them and not judge them as well. “Welcome people who are weak in faith, but don’t get into an argument over differences of opinion.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭14‬:‭1‬ ‭GW‬‬

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

What you say now is actually in agreement with the entire point of this video. Of course born again believers assemble in buildings and could be attending churches that are denominational in nature. If you watch the video I believe I clearly make that statement. The entire point of this video was to get people to not look at the building itself or the name on the building as "the church." No single building or denomination can ever identify as "the church." There's a lot of people in denominational churches who aren't born again and so they aren't part of "the church" even though they think they are "going to church." You seem to have missed this and instead went on to make a judgment that in some odd way agrees with what I've said while declaring I should not judge and that I should love (as if I don't love people caught up in denominationalism). Of course we should love all people, including our enemies. Love them enough to share the truth with them and get them out of a wrong understanding of "the church." We are called to judge righteous judgment. That's what I am doing in this video and I would say that's what you are attempting to do in your statements here to me. So please, enough with using the "don't judge" card out of context. Everyone must make judgments when it comes to right and wrong. God's the Judge of where people will spend eternity, but we are to judge righteously according to the Word of God. If you think all that has been shared in this video is judging unrighteously then I believe it's you that have a misunderstanding of biblical judgment. Proverbs 31:9 KJVS Open thy mouth, judge righteously, and plead the cause of the poor and needy. John 7:24 KJVS Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment. People's understanding of "judgment" today is getting so bad that they think preaching the gospel is making an unrighteous judgment. In order for someone to preach the gospel, they need to be able to make a righteous judgment. We can make the judgment that all men have sinned and come short of the glory of God because that's what God's Word says. That would be judging righteously. Everything I have said in this video is making a righteous judgment regarding what the Word of God says about "the church." This video isn't an argument with anyone. People who are weak in the faith will never grow unto maturity if they continue to believe lies. The only way for people to grow is to hear the truth of God's Word spoken. What they do with the truth is up to them. People who take offence to God's Word will have to take it up with Him come judgment day since that's where our judgment ends and the great Judge will judge the world in righteousness. We need to be of the same judgment according to Scripture. This can't happen if the truth isn't spoken. Speaking the truth is one way we can show our love to people. 1 Corinthians 1:10 KJVS Now I beseech you, brethren, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye all speak the same thing, and that there be no divisions among you; but that ye be perfectly joined together in the same mind and in the same judgment. The church is not a physical earthly building but is one body of believers built up an habitation of God through the Spirit. No one single denomination or building can claim this! Amen? Romans 12:4-5 KJVS For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: [5] So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another. Ephesians 2:19-22 KJVS Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; [20] And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; [21] In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: [22] In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit. Actually by not speaking the truth, I would be going against Scripture. Most people today with a denominational mindset do not endure sound doctrine. I'm simply doing what Scripture says to do: Preach the truth (the Word). Titus 1:9 KJVS Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers. 2 Timothy 3:16 KJVS All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 2 Timothy 4:2-3 KJVS Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. [3] For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;

[@jamesobrien5782]

Sad. God bless.

[@kcstewart671]

So if you're bouncing from church to church without commitment to any one of them,... WHO ARE YOUR ELDERS? AND HOW ARE YOU IN SUBMISSION TO THEIR LEADERSHIP? AND SUBJECT TO THEIR MINISTRY AND DISCIPLINE? See, your overcorrection here just gets you off the hook while sounding real biblical and spiritual.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Did you even watch the video? Maybe give it another listen without any distractions. I think you’ll come to a more accurate and discerning conclusion if you do.

[@kcstewart671]

@@ShatteringFalseFoundations Yes, I watched it, listening carefully to hear a clear commitment to a church. Heard the opposite.

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

@@kcstewart671 Therein lies your problem then. You might have heard the opposite because maybe some of the things I said go against your current understanding of what "church" has been made to look like in the religious world today. Committing to a denominational "church" who's elders and pastor have no true understanding that the church is the entire body of believers would actually do more harm to the congregants than good. This unfortunately is what most congregants do, by placing themselves in submission under people who shouldn't even be in the positions they are in the first place. God ordains the five fold ministry, but unfortunately most dead religious denominations today have people ordaining themselves and turning themselves into pastors and teachers who lord false doctrine over unknowledgeable and ignorant pew warmers who swallow and accept everything they are told. True saints of God don't commit to a church building/denomination, rather we commit to being led by the Spirit and being connected with a body of local believers around us who are willing to worship God in Spirit and in truth. Most "churches" are spiritually dead and don't have the Spirit and are, therefore, lacking truth. They may look good on the outside, but it's just dead religion in God's eyes. So much money is wasted on the upkeep of these big buildings people call "church" when it could go to evangelism and witnessing to others/helping others in the community. Nowhere in my video did I say I was against committing to an assembly of born again believers (the true understanding of what church is). It's just that we don't have to assemble in a building labeled "church" to actually be committed to a church. We as born again believers meet in our homes here. God's the one building His church and He ultimately is the Bishop of our souls. Way too many men who call themselves pastors (bishops) have taken on a role they were never called to fulfill in the first place. This is why the religious world is such a mess and why so many people are leaving dead religion and recognizing that they need to seek and pray for other believers to be revealed around them that God has called out of the religious institution that many people call "church." 1 Peter 2:25 For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls. 1 Peter 5:5 Likewise, ye younger, submit yourselves unto the elder. Yea, all of you be subject one to another, and be clothed with humility: for God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. This passage in 1 Peter 5:5 is powerful because it shows that the younger are supposed to submit to the elder, but then goes on to say that everyone in the body should subject themselves to one another and be clothed with humility. The Greek word for "submit" and "subject" are the exact same words and mean the exact same thing. Very few churches actually follow this command in God's Word. Most pastors in the religious world today never submit to anyone and are full of pride. This following short video sums up what the assembly (church) should actually look like if we were to follow the biblical model and not the model created by dead religious tradition. This was the purpose of my video. The Church Is Not A Building: The Religious Church vs The Living Church kzbin.info/www/bejne/sJK7eqhsqcmYY5Y

[@kcstewart671]

@@ShatteringFalseFoundations Well, thanks for the lengthy and thoughtful reply, brother. However, I'm afraid I must demur. Your video does not spell out much of what you've said here, nor is what you've said here really facing what I'm talking about. You seem to assume that I am coming to the defense of denominationalism and the equating of "church" with physical buildings, etc. I am not. Nor would any of the serious Christians I know and have contact with. (I live in Portland, and in the Pacific Northwest, there really isn't any of that old school denominationalism like with the SBC, etc.) What we DO see a lot of, though, is younger Christian people who don't want to be tied down to a specific fellowship and don't want to be beholden to a specific eldership or submit to church discipline--so they do this lone ranger Christianity thing and comfort themselves with ecclesiological models like the one you present in your video. I have no problem with home churches as over against churches with .25 acre campuses. If that's what the Lord is calling you to, fine. I also come from the Plymouth Brethren tradition where we do not have a clergy/laity distinction--none of that "pastor" stuff. What I am calling out here as unbiblical is the idea that it is right for a Christian to float between or outside of a committed fellowship to a specific church body (wherever and however it meets), with an actual eldership which has a shepherding charge from Christ to keep watch over the souls in that body. Who holds you accountable? Who lays hands on you to bless and confirm your ministry and calling? Not having this kind of commitment was the undoing of Ravi Zacharias. And while you and other Christians who buy into this idea might not have such a meteoric fall, the same kind of danger faces you. If I've misunderstood you in all of this, I submit that the mistake is in your not making it clear in your video that you are in--and would call others to--such a biblical church commitment. It is up to YOU to explain how your bouncing around from church to church without a commitment to any one of them allows for biblical discipleship in submission to elders, etc. If that IS, in fact, where your heart is, I would suggest remaking your video so as to make that clear (and sensible!). Shalom BaMashiach!

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

@@kcstewart671 Thanks for the response and clarification! My wife and I are part of a home church where every member of the body serves a purpose and it's not just to warm a church pew and put money in the offering plate. Anyone who has served the Lord longer than ourselves is our elder. It's not about age in my opinion. Too many "older" men in these denominational churches consider themselves elders when they aren't, especially if they are recent converts or have secretly been living a life of sin. Submission is to everyone in the body with humility since we are all members one of another and accountable to one another in love. I'm all for leadership in the church and structure as the body, but unfortunately what you've presented regarding being against "church hopping" has the potential to lead many to feel pressured into staying where they currently are attending due to fear of "not submitting" even though God is the one stirring in their spirit to leave that dead religious system. What if God calls them out from under a particular "leadership?" They should have the freedom to follow God's leading and go from church to church until they feel God speaking to them regarding who they can wholeheartedly submit to. Believe me, I know how difficult it is to find leadership that would actually be Scriptural to submit to. I feel it's better to be a "lone ranger" than to submit to someone who's not even anointed of God to be doing what they're doing. Sadly many sincere believers fall into this category of being stuck under submission to someone not called of God to preach. There's also nothing wrong with attending various churches to connect with other believers outside of one's main fellowship. This is what this video was giving people the freedom to do. It many times can take years for someone to finally find a body of believers with whom they can worship God together in sprit and truth, depending on where God has placed them on this earth. The more remote the location the harder it is. The order and structure of the body, God will establish. I recognize that what I have said in this video could be misunderstood, like almost any Bible subject that is being taught, no matter how clearly it is presented. Just like your initial response to my video could be misinterpreted. It's not that the presentation was wrong, but it requires someone to dig a little deeper and maybe ask more questions before coming to a conclusion. This video wasn't a video encouraging "church hopping." It was a video about a passage of Scripture that many people inappropriately use to instill fear in people who God is calling out of denominationalism. Many people find themselves unable to find other believers to gather with because of all the false doctrine these days in churches. God does not abandon those people who's heart desires fellowship. It's not ideal that they have to be "flying solo" for many times long periods of time, but God is faithful and He will provide a way. There isn't a cookie cutter model of "church" fellowship. The Spirit guides true believers who will worship God together with other believers in spirit and in truth. How one fellowship operates may look different than another, but as long as God is leading and moving, that's what matters. I think for the most part we are in agreement on these things.

[@gustavmahler1466]

Hebrews 10 proves Jesus death wasn't a blood sacrifice

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

Of course it was! Jesus was the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. His blood was shed for the remission of sins. A spotless blood sacrifice! God purchased the church with His own blood (Acts 20:28). He was the sacrificial Lamb because without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sins.

[@gustavmahler1466]

@@ShatteringFalseFoundations Blood sacrifices were offered by the law but God did not desire did not require blood sacrifices Hebrews 10:4,5,6,811 Psalm 40:6 KJV

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

@@gustavmahler1466 He did not desire the blood of literal goats and lambs because they could not actually atone for man's sins. Jesus was fully human and so His blood could. Why do you ignore verses like the following? Hebrews 9:11-14 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God? Jesus Christ fulfilled the law and became the spotless blood sacrifice that would atone for the sins of mankind to those who would obey the gospel and have the blood of Jesus applied to their lives. We are washed by the blood of Jesus when we are born again. Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood, Hebrews 10:4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. You are failing to rightly divide the Word of truth. This is how false religions are formed. Stick to the entirety of Scripture and you will be set free. Truth sets free. You have been deceived into believing a lie regarding the resurrection and the blood of Jesus. Allow God's Word to correct you.

[@gustavmahler1466]

@@ShatteringFalseFoundations The sacrifice Jesus made was obedience he sacrifice every single day of his life

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

@Scott Jackson You are ignoring Scripture and writing your own Bible. Obedience is what led Jesus to the cross where He was crucified as the spotless Lamb. Why do you deny that He was a blood sacrifice? The Word of God is very clear on this! Deal with these verses and don't ignore them. Ephesians 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweet smelling savour. Hebrews 9:26 For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. Hebrews 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 1 Corinthians 5:7 Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

[@ChangingTides777]

It's such a misused New Testament verse. So absyrd.

[@tonyscott1066]

Complaining. Yall can't Change Nothing from the outside 😂

[@ShatteringFalseFoundations]

I think you missed the entire point of this video. Maybe you didn’t take the time to actually watch it. The outside of what? The church is not a building. Anyone who thinks it is does not understand the Scriptures. The church is the body of Christ that consists of many members. The change needs to happen in the minds of those who claim the name of Christ and speak as though church is a building or denomination. That my friend is deception. We can change things by speaking the truth in love. The truth is what sets us free from religious tradition.

[@kulkajim]

Amen! Some pastors and christ-naming people group other Christians inaccurately with too broad a brush by describing people who leave churches with the verses like: 19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us". 1 John 2:19 (KJV) In fact however, my personal experience is that I cannot find a church today that is not wrapped up in 501c(3) free-speech restrictions or "mysticism" (dis-armingly labeled "Spiritual Disciplnes" or "Spiritual Formation"), or easy believism/sinners-pray gospels, or social justice nonsense and other "angel of light" heresies. In truth, we true regenerated ones - whom have stopped attending which you are painting as usurpers or dissidents of sorts have - unequivocally left because these so-called pastors are the "shepherds" described in Jeremiah who "heal my people little", "don't know Me", etc. God tells these shepherds that he will scatter their sheep and then send them teachers after his own heart! And now, the recent great shaking events have cleaned out the unregenerate wolves and unwitting pew sitters...to perhaps (leave only those Shepherds and sheep who are of the true church to stay or return)....? Have you ever thought this might be somewhat related to God spewing them out of His mouth? We know He hates tare-religion and false soulish, lukewarm worsgip...think about it. AND we true living stones have now found fellowship among ourselves via other means: small groups, one-on-one discipleship and teaching, ZOOM, WhatsApp! We've began preaching to hundreds in a Muslim-Asian nation where these people are poor in spirit and ripe to accept the gospel. I've heard others also try to use Hebrews 10:25 to brow-beat us! When that verse was NOT at all about joining or attending a "church"....it was that they were being hunted and persecuted by some, to stay in fellowship (in homes I might add!). This religious spirit is the very same demonic spirit that resulted in true born-again believers being ran from homes and towns and even killed by the wonderful (tongue in cheek) "Reformers" such as Luther and Calvin during the "Radical Reformation"....the true church IS NOT confined to your satanic definition ma'am/sir! God is birthing new and thriving ekklisia in mud huts and in caves now! Dear believers, be advised and question any (religious) spirit that displays these subtle signs. If you are truly born again (John 3, Ezekiel 36) then you are sealed unto the day of redemption...the display of this regeneration is the fruit of the Spirit NOT CHURCH MEMBERSHIP! May any pastor or other laying this undue burden on another - or even having this false expectation - stop and consider these things.