Unhelpful Police and Mysterious Death | Mitrice Richardson Case Analysis

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Dr. Todd Grande

Dr. Todd Grande

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@svenk5505
@svenk5505 3 жыл бұрын
I was arrested for biking under the influences on a private residential road when I was almost home. They dropped my bike off at my house and drove me 8 miles downtown to the police station, held me for 6 hours and released me downtown at 2am with no money and no buses running anyway, and a barely charged phone before Uber/Lyft , and everyone was asleep I tried calling. I walked through downtown to my house till 6am when my mom finally woke up and picked me up but I was in the safe part of town by then. Luckily I’m not a young woman and was familiar with the area, or I don’t know how it would have gone down.
@rachelle.h
@rachelle.h Жыл бұрын
Interesting 💭
@mythical0bjective
@mythical0bjective Жыл бұрын
This is a classic case one that consumed me for weeks, I still care about this though it adds to completely baffling
@kweenz109
@kweenz109 Жыл бұрын
That's insane to me!! Don't they have better things to do???
@stupid0account0name
@stupid0account0name 10 ай бұрын
What the actual fuck is up with your police.... Thats ludicrous
@nortonvilledrive3279
@nortonvilledrive3279 7 ай бұрын
Matrice said she was from Mars. Clearly she is not in possession of critical thinking. My question was why keep her to midnight at all. Then claimed she was safe. Why wasn’t she had her car retuned if she was released. The entire point is to keep people safe this is the job of the police. Usually when people feel unsafe they call police we are told they are there to keep the peace. The police are culpable for the death. 8:23
@nanakoosa1
@nanakoosa1 3 жыл бұрын
Even putting aside everything that went wrong for this poor woman, it's an awful policy to release anyone from jail in the middle of the night unless they have transportation (people who go to jail generally didn't drive themselves there) and can get somewhere safe.
@lousunny5682
@lousunny5682 3 жыл бұрын
EXACTLY. The prison pipeline is real.
@tonka9573
@tonka9573 3 жыл бұрын
yes, I wondered why he didn't mention it in the analysis part
@jillianjillian5493
@jillianjillian5493 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely.
@anamariacoyote4815
@anamariacoyote4815 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! I was hoping Dr Grande would address how completely unethical and absurd it is to release anyone during the night from a correctional facility. I'm glad you addressed it.
@ChasingMayzie
@ChasingMayzie 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, but also no. Police are restricted by the constitution as to when they can keep a person under police control. Yes, of course it would have been better to have kept her restrained until she was either on a bus, in a safe place, in family care, etc., but there are very sticky rules about police power. It's such a difficult paradigm.
@annal7364
@annal7364 3 жыл бұрын
I completely agree, Dr. Grande, that specialized support is desperately needed in law enforcement. I wonder if police officers lose sight of normal when they're involved in so many frightening and disturbing events day after day for years. This could explain why the people at the restaurant saw something was wrong, but police did not. This is a major problem that needs to be addressed. As a public school teacher, I see a lot, and sometimes the strong reactions of outsiders, after hearing about things that happen, make me realize that my normal is sometimes not what's actually normal. I appreciate your work and advocacy for relying on mental healthcare professionals. If people just listened to you, Dr. G, I think the world would spin much smoother. ☺️
@ChasingMayzie
@ChasingMayzie 3 жыл бұрын
@@erdelegy Good points, both you and Anna L. I think one important factor to note also is that police are also limited by law as to what they can do. What we would consider "helping" someone might be legally construed as "illegally detaining" someone woh isn't accused of a crime. It's so complex.
@lolazal1
@lolazal1 3 жыл бұрын
Talking about being from Mars, shouldn't be "normal" for police officers 🙄
@MasterMalrubius
@MasterMalrubius 3 жыл бұрын
It is not that the police did not see anything "wrong" it is about what they can legally do.
@ahoweO7
@ahoweO7 3 жыл бұрын
That was exactly my theory. They didn't lack compassion, this is what they see all the time, their hands are tied at this point what can they do?
@mynameismynameis666
@mynameismynameis666 3 жыл бұрын
for your information: more pizzadelivery men get killed in the line of duty than cops. making pizzadelivery the more honorable and dangerous job to society. and they still are so DARING, they come without gun, bulletproof vest, taser or cuffs and rarely ever kill anyone during the execution of their jobs, never heard of a pizzadelivery boy shooting black kids in the back. imagine the bravery..... Do you think if Breonna Taylor had been a pizza delivery woman, her colleague would have killed her in her house? THINBREADCRUST!
@relishcat
@relishcat 3 жыл бұрын
Stories like Mitrice's are one of the reasons I got mental health help. Thank you Mitrice. I'm so sorry this happened to you.
@trace9657
@trace9657 3 жыл бұрын
You are wise. Best wishes.
@666ydney
@666ydney 3 жыл бұрын
agreed. we have to advocate for ourselves, because sometimes no one else will. this story, and stories like elisa lam's as well, remind me to be grateful for mental health professionals and modern-day psychiatric meds.
@tinawindham6958
@tinawindham6958 2 жыл бұрын
I hope her mom finds that out👍🏻
@abel-17jsl36
@abel-17jsl36 2 жыл бұрын
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@abel-17jsl36
@abel-17jsl36 2 жыл бұрын
Qq
@classiccarsclassicrock9433
@classiccarsclassicrock9433 3 жыл бұрын
Her mother asked the police to call if they let her out. She really was strong on the fact. No excuse for the police. I am sorry, but they should have known the danger of letting her go in the middle of the night!
@danacabrera3523
@danacabrera3523 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@theflowerangel5724
@theflowerangel5724 3 жыл бұрын
Except they would have to care first. And they obviously didn’t care what happened to her. Shame on them. Especially the female officers. 🤬
@gypsydonovan
@gypsydonovan 3 жыл бұрын
In the calls she literally tells them she's worried about something happening to mitrice, and off handedly said she didn’t want her to turn up decapitated. It's such a "that could never happen" kind of thing but it must haunt her. I hope it haunts the dispatcher (or whomever she spoke to). You don't say something like that thinking it will happen but within 24 hours her daughter's headless body was laying in the grass alone. I almost think she had a premonition.
@classiccarsclassicrock9433
@classiccarsclassicrock9433 3 жыл бұрын
@@gypsydonovan I know it is so sad. Her poor mom.
@tankthearc9875
@tankthearc9875 2 жыл бұрын
this is exactly what defunding means . yet dolts on the right do not get it.
@kasatka3690
@kasatka3690 3 жыл бұрын
They didn't even collect all of her remains. Her family found some of her bones themselves. I heard that the coroner was really angry they removed her from that location. Also they said where she was found, is difficult terrain. Idk why they couldn't be bothered to call her mom like she requested. I guess because Mitrice was an adult, and it was her decision. Dark canyon already has a scary history. I have my own thought about what happened to her. Foul play, but add those screams in, I don't want to say what I think. I did not know some of the details Dr. Grande stated. Very interesting!
@dancingcolorsVdeRegil
@dancingcolorsVdeRegil 3 жыл бұрын
Same. I also pointed out the distances of the places involved. This is such a terrible thing. Racial profiling certainly at play, and Malibu itself is a very wild place with a mix of wealthy, famous folks and a variety of other people sparsely sprinkled in loose housing groups around a huge set of mountains, a 27 miles long coastal range and 10 miles wide. crazy.
@MusMasi
@MusMasi 2 жыл бұрын
thats so sad its like they only cared enough to cover themselves, probably did that so the coroner could not find anything or muddy it up, in their minds if it is unclear then its more likely an accident or self harm they think it makes them look better than if it was a case of foul play.
@Gooddaysalways
@Gooddaysalways 2 жыл бұрын
She was found in an area that is known for filming adult films. That explains a lot in my opinion.
@kasatka3690
@kasatka3690 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gooddaysalways Oh wow! I agree with that, how sad and scary.
@jht3fougifh393
@jht3fougifh393 2 жыл бұрын
@@dancingcolorsVdeRegil No evidence of anything racial, so that's a convoluted theory.
@94Trish
@94Trish 3 жыл бұрын
I always found this case to be so sad and disturbing. There's a very good documentary about it called Lost Compassion.
@maureeningleston1501
@maureeningleston1501 3 жыл бұрын
I also found this case so sad, it's always stayed with me, I'll have to look up the documentary.
@kathyclark8274
@kathyclark8274 3 жыл бұрын
Very aptly titled.
@94Trish
@94Trish 3 жыл бұрын
@@maureeningleston1501 so initially the documentary got mixed reviews when it came out. But now it has excellent reviews and I thought it was worthwhile to watch.
@rondasmith4037
@rondasmith4037 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks I'm gonna read documentary Called Lost Compassion because that's Exactly What This Was!! They Didn't Need Mental Health Training for that!!! We are Human First!!! I said that in someone else's response to my comment!! It's No If's, And's or But's about it. The Police Officers were Wrong!! Children know to tell someone when another child gets hurt. First the child will try to help and then will Dash to get help!! No special training there, just Compassion!!!
@jaymike987
@jaymike987 3 жыл бұрын
@@rondasmith4037 She might have calmed down and acted normal while in jail. Maybe just slept, as there's nothing else to do in there.
@mixinitupNY
@mixinitupNY 3 жыл бұрын
💚 Thank you for covering Matrice, I always felt so horrible for her mother who contacted the police right away and they let her go :(
@DavidDeeble
@DavidDeeble 3 жыл бұрын
Each time Dr. Grande says "And now for my analysis" I expect him to say "Just what the hell is going on here?"
@rdhawk929
@rdhawk929 3 жыл бұрын
Right! 😹😹😹
@BucketHeadianHagg
@BucketHeadianHagg 3 жыл бұрын
🤣😂
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 3 жыл бұрын
He is too measured for that!
@esteemedmortal5917
@esteemedmortal5917 3 жыл бұрын
I think you were being overly generous to the law enforcement involved in this case. I agree they’re asked to be too many things, but it’s all the more damning on them that they didn’t go to the effort of getting a mental health evaluation. And the fact that they initially claimed there was no footage and then when they produced said footage is extremely suspicious. I think they acted on negative stereotypes (perhaps based on race, gender, perceiving her to be ‘crazy’, thinking she was an addiction etc) and just genuinely did not give a shit about what happened to her.
@yam-w1u
@yam-w1u Жыл бұрын
🎯🎯🎯 BINGO!
@Elle-om4nf
@Elle-om4nf Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I'm a trained mental health professional, but even before I was, I would have certainly been concerned. Where I live, the Orange County Jail is the largest mental health provider in the area... There's got to be better training for the officers working intake or automatic mental health screenings for everybody. A nurse taking blood pressures and asking if someone is on medication is not enough.
@hedleybutler9706
@hedleybutler9706 3 жыл бұрын
I think this story really illuminates why mental health care needs to be normalized & free to everyone. It's very obvious that she was having some type of mental health episode but it's as if the ONLY responses available were basically avoidance, annoyance or contacting law enforcement.
@willnill7946
@willnill7946 3 жыл бұрын
Everyone isn’t crazy like you
@ohthelovelypoems
@ohthelovelypoems 3 жыл бұрын
@Bubbles Bedlam You have no idea what you are talking about. Insurance gets away with limiting therapy visits, hospitalizations, and they choose what medications they will cover. Co-pays are very expensive on top of premiums. A huge percentage of the homeless have some kind of mental illness. The system is set up for the mentally ill to be arrested rather be seen by medical personnel or qualified therapists. This is how this tragedy happened.
@KathleenMcCormickLCSWMPH
@KathleenMcCormickLCSWMPH 3 жыл бұрын
Very good analysis. I would only add that the police officers on duty that night seemed to have lost their sense of compassion. They must have known that she had no way of getting anywhere or contacting anyone yet they still released her in the middle of the night. On a more sinister note, a woman in a manic phase can exhibit hyper sexual behavior. Could these officers have released her and then victimized her? Why were the tapes edited?
@sunrae7680
@sunrae7680 2 жыл бұрын
Wow !! That would make this even worse. This poor girl.
@LOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
@LOXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX 2 жыл бұрын
I thought this exact same thing..and why were they so quick to move her body parts from the scene when coroner advised not to..
@Heyu7her3
@Heyu7her3 Жыл бұрын
Cops have compassion?
@pezeron24
@pezeron24 3 жыл бұрын
It's difficult to understand why the police would release a lone young woman in the middle of the night, without cash, and in an unfamiliar city when they could have kept her safe until the morning, knowing her mother was probably going to pick her up. It sounds irresponsible and borderline criminal.
@suemccarthy853
@suemccarthy853 3 жыл бұрын
They did offer to let her stay there until the morning if she wanted to.
@danacabrera3523
@danacabrera3523 3 жыл бұрын
They should have demanded she stay not offer. That’s ridiculous. So tragic and as Dr.Grande said, a little bit of common sense would have saved her life. It was blatantly obvious she was having a mental health crisis and should have never ever been allowed to leave for her safety. They dropped the ball bad on this case. She could have done something with her life to make this world a better place. Incredibly sad case. 😢
@LoveableNiki
@LoveableNiki 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to assume her ethnicity, but she appears to have darker skin. That leads me to believe she's apart of a group that the police, sometimes, cares nothing regarding. Especially with the surveillance footage being altered, she may have been causing a disturbance in a cell and they wanted to wash their hands of her. We don't know that they actually offered her to wait in the lobby.
@jaymike987
@jaymike987 3 жыл бұрын
Except that everyone else is glad to get out as soon as possible...and they make it home just fine.
@funkdocc7880
@funkdocc7880 3 жыл бұрын
If literally everyone can become a cop with little to not much training, this is what ya get.
@garmtpug
@garmtpug 3 жыл бұрын
It sounds as if the police were trying to cover their butts with a lot of their statements. They could have released her in the morning, not at midnight!! They obviously dropped the ball with this case.
@garmtpug
@garmtpug 3 жыл бұрын
@Eclipse19891 And law enforcement wonders why people don't trust them...
@dogtrainer4645
@dogtrainer4645 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a sad story. The police really didn't handle it right, letting her go at night with no transportation, money or phone. This is yet another instance that shows the police aren't equipped to handle mental health issues. This situation really needs reform. Mental health clinicians should be on staff to deal with these type of cases. She wasn't dangerous, she just needed help. Edit: I said that about mental health help in police forces before I got to Dr Grande's analysis when he suggested it.
@r.c.miller6161
@r.c.miller6161 3 жыл бұрын
The police are a-holes.
@austinwinsett5593
@austinwinsett5593 3 жыл бұрын
@DogTrainer This is standard procedure for them they literally don’t give a fuck at all. They keep you til midnight to include you in the days count and get more money, then release you in the middle of the night. Pieces of shit
@14534
@14534 3 жыл бұрын
It’s not their problem what she does or what resources she has after she’s released. That’s a problem for her friends, family, and anyone who cares enough to spend time or money to support her. That’s not society’s responsibility.
@14534
@14534 3 жыл бұрын
@@austinwinsett5593 why should they care? Her mental state isn’t our problem, it’s her own.
@r.c.miller6161
@r.c.miller6161 3 жыл бұрын
@@14534 Well are we just all sunshine and light. Cruelty is not justifiable.
@emjones7698
@emjones7698 3 жыл бұрын
When Mel Gibson was arrested at that same Malibu Station, he was given a ride directly to his car upon his release. It is a disgrace and an outrage that they would release a young woman alone at midnight and not do the same for her.
@fadalerabrasool3563
@fadalerabrasool3563 3 жыл бұрын
not only that but Failure to help mitrices mental illness and keep her safe, until her mom came get her
@fourfurrypotatoes
@fourfurrypotatoes 2 жыл бұрын
Yep unfortunately celebrities get special treatment everywhere.
@homicidalmuffin6190
@homicidalmuffin6190 2 жыл бұрын
That's how rich famous people get treated.
@homicidalmuffin6190
@homicidalmuffin6190 2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly sad. I cry for her. The police may not have proper training but I believe they knew something wasn't right. I feel due to multiple errors and lack job performance they are absolutely responsible for her death. Scary and tragic.
@homicidalmuffin6190
@homicidalmuffin6190 2 жыл бұрын
@@fourfurrypotatoes Tragic case. Imagine being her mother and told they let her go. RIP🙏
@USALibertarian
@USALibertarian 3 жыл бұрын
Seriously, why are cops always half-assed when it comes to helping people? I'm glad Law Enforcement investigated themselves and found themselves blameless.
@aethrya
@aethrya 3 жыл бұрын
They always do. I wish I could audit myself.
@MasterMalrubius
@MasterMalrubius 3 жыл бұрын
They serve a particular purpose. Someone may believe it is a cop-out but they cannot force anyone to do anything if they are not breaking the law.
@danielsass1826
@danielsass1826 3 жыл бұрын
Funny how that always happens..
@tinawindham6958
@tinawindham6958 2 жыл бұрын
Shocking.
@USALibertarian
@USALibertarian 2 жыл бұрын
@@MasterMalrubius Except they do it all the time. And we both know the cops were NOT hand-wringing over their inability to take action. They were just lazy and negligent.
@sandydee8003
@sandydee8003 3 жыл бұрын
This is so sad. She clearly didn’t want to be alone and needed help. I wonder if the police were responsible for seeing if she actually had transportation when she left the station?
@kathyclark8274
@kathyclark8274 3 жыл бұрын
Once more, all together now, the recurring refrain, not their problem, right?
@AmberPearcy
@AmberPearcy 3 жыл бұрын
I just wish the police would’ve called her mother before releasing her. But I know, she was an adult. Ugh! So sad.
@saint2600
@saint2600 3 жыл бұрын
they messed up big time.
@mighty0974
@mighty0974 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not going to rewatch it, bud didn't she only know her grandmother's number? It's not the responsibility of the police to care for, or hold hostage, a grown ass woman.
@kathyclark8274
@kathyclark8274 3 жыл бұрын
They had already spoken w/ her mother by phone who was reassured Mitrice would not be released until the next day.
@AmberPearcy
@AmberPearcy 3 жыл бұрын
@@kathyclark8274 yeah that’s why I’m saying they should’ve called her since they promised her she would be kept there til morning. I just mean, morally anyway.
@Hollylivengood
@Hollylivengood 3 жыл бұрын
@@kathyclark8274 It's what they always do. Technically she was released the next day, since it was after midnight. They have a phone available for you to make a call to get a ride, but if she didn't want to waked her grandmother at midnight, they just drop it.Personally I think the cops molested her and killed her. I mean, it's happened. Why would they release her in the middle of the night unless they wanted a record that she was not at the police station. Now she has to start walking, and a whole bunch of cops that can easily find her. I had a friend in high school who had this happen to her when she was fifteen, she'd been molested by cops after they released her, so don't tell me the cops wouldn't do that.
@betterbee1304
@betterbee1304 3 жыл бұрын
I've always wondered what happened! It's infuriating how many holes there are in this case! What the heck happened to this poor girl? Thanks Dr Grande for the video. ❤️ P.S. did you hear about the update with Robert Durst?
@ashley-bd5ik
@ashley-bd5ik 3 жыл бұрын
The one common theme on this channel is the incompetence of police, which I think is pretty telling in and of itself. Great vid as always dr. G
@f.4588
@f.4588 3 жыл бұрын
Here in MO if the police would have suspicion of a mental health issue they would take the person to the emergency room to be evaluated by a mental health professional.
@cattycorner8
@cattycorner8 3 жыл бұрын
That is a great way to handle problems like these.
@Joy31608
@Joy31608 3 жыл бұрын
Missing details!! The police announced a “sighting” of Mitrece in Las Vegas. Also, the reports at the time said she was released from custody without her car, purse or shoes-in a unfamiliar area??
@rheamickens3128
@rheamickens3128 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely...unfamiliar area, no vehicle, money or phone...money and phone were in her car mind you, (and she had enough money to pay the bill) Cops claim they didn't see her belongings in the vehicle,but they sure didn't miss that lil bit of weed. I don't care , it was obvious she wasn't in a right state, and what was she supposed to do after midnight with nothing but the clothes on her back. The tape of her in her cell...altered. also wasn't mentioned here that an officer left minutes after she did, his movements unaccounted for...of course that footage was not available either. The most upsetting part was that the mother was on the phone with an officer for a minute, and she was emphatic that they should hold her until morning when she could come get her. She even joked that she didn't want her to end up somewhere with her head chopped off. Beyond eery. But the cop insisted she need not worry, he assured her that she would not be released. Dr. Grande missed that part. I heard the call. These cops were not only negligent, but there are serious foul play, cover up vibes going on. Too many coincidences and outright lies.
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 3 жыл бұрын
@@rheamickens3128 Generic conspiratorial drivel.
@kathyclark8274
@kathyclark8274 3 жыл бұрын
@@rheamickens3128 Pay no mind to EB, nothing would be too surprising or beyond the pale when it comes to law enforcement and their dealings w/ the usual suspects, whom they regard as subhuman.
@Preservestlandry
@Preservestlandry 3 жыл бұрын
There was a sex worker who looked like Matrice, but Matrice's dad went out there, & it wasn't Matrice.
@xxxyz1004
@xxxyz1004 3 жыл бұрын
@@rheamickens3128 Totally agree with you.
@cee5463
@cee5463 3 жыл бұрын
This poor girl. She was having some kind of mental episode. There were a lot of fishing things with the police. Corners could not give cause of death bc the police disturbed and disrupted the scene where her body was found.
@sgreen0000
@sgreen0000 3 жыл бұрын
This case has disturbed me since I read about it. Her mother tried desperately to find & obtain justice for Mitrice but she was ignored. The police should have never released her especially since she was clearly under the influencia of something. My heart & prayers go out to her family. RIP, Mitrece. 💔😢🙏🏻❤️
@globes179
@globes179 3 жыл бұрын
It's such a "duh, obviously" idea - that police departments need specialists who can respond to and make executive decisions in cases of persons with mental health symptoms. Like, why is this not a thing?
@witchflowers6942
@witchflowers6942 3 жыл бұрын
its cultural. we prefer punishment to aid in our country.
@Iron4TrollPatrol
@Iron4TrollPatrol 3 жыл бұрын
Money. Defund the police right.
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 3 жыл бұрын
@@Iron4TrollPatrol TROLL Patrol, what police besides Minneapolis have been defunded? My guess is none. Am I wrong?
@Iron4TrollPatrol
@Iron4TrollPatrol 3 жыл бұрын
@@Catlily5 Well crafted but it was a troll comment.
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 3 жыл бұрын
@@Iron4TrollPatrol Gotta troll the trolls. But I was serious about it the rest of the comment.
@diznyland6214
@diznyland6214 3 жыл бұрын
“I’m not sure what the police were thinking.” Obviously they weren’t. Or at least not well. 🤣
@penelopehughes-jones5265
@penelopehughes-jones5265 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this case, Dr Grande, it serves as a reminder that yes, totally agree, too much is expected of law enforcement. "Defund the police", shouldn't mean something destructive, it can be illuminating, money can be spread to other agencies who specialise in cases like this. If someone like you were able to evaluate in a situation like this (to coin a phrase!) then lives could be saved. I don't want to persecute hard working police officers, I only want to support, take off some of their workload and let forst respondents in these situations be experts in psychology, rather than law enforcement. I hope this happens, it would be truly dreadful if more lives were lost, one is more than enough.
@richarddavis2961
@richarddavis2961 3 жыл бұрын
Not defund but redirect money for a more positive outcome for we the people.
@christinabernat6709
@christinabernat6709 3 жыл бұрын
So you are recommending some amount of defending but you are calling it redirecting? And Dr Grande hearted your comment? The correct way to add new staff - such as mental health workers - is to invest/add ADDITIONAL funds. And realize that the officers would also need some additional training in how to work with the/these new mental health staff(staffers) !
@penelopehughes-jones5265
@penelopehughes-jones5265 3 жыл бұрын
@@christinabernat6709 Hello from UK! I think this is a mutual problem. We have terrible issues in London with police corruption and brutality; it's a small group who ruin the whole and it needs to be sorted. Only in the last few months we've had a Met officer rape and murder a girl, another charged with rape, two found guilty of degrading the bodies of two black female murder victims...you get the picture. That needs to be sorted and brought up to 21st C standards but it's a separate issue to the funding. It's no use sending a piano tuner to fix a bicycle; the very sorts of people who are drawn to law enforcement are very different from those who are called to serve us in other ways like nursing, psychological care and so on. For that reason I do believe that the funding should be spread out or better yet, increased...thats always a political thing. (Our government keeps banging on about 20k *more* police on the street...they took away 20k police about ten years ago, now they want thanks for saying they'll put them back it's ridiculous. Anyway, separate issue.) The difficulty I envisage, as I'm sure something like this will happen at some point, is who decides who to call? We still need the police to be there for the safety of all concerned and they would need the training to call the relevant psychological support. It's a bit of a minefield but we do need to look at getting the right people into these situations moving forward and it will, hopefully, take a lot of stress from the police, for instance, had the right person seen this lady not only may she still be alive but thousands of police hours would have been saved.
@christinabernat6709
@christinabernat6709 3 жыл бұрын
@@penelopehughes-jones5265 Just want to tell you I have written a longer and serious response to you twice and both times it disappeared. The bottom line of my response was that you all in London need to vote in top city leader(s) who will work for you, not wolfs in sheep's clothing actually there to destroy your way of life . Hope this short response does not disappear!
@penelopehughes-jones5265
@penelopehughes-jones5265 3 жыл бұрын
@@christinabernat6709 Hey Christina, well the KZbin system now automatically deletes anything with links or any words that trigger it like words with s and then e and then a third letter that looks like a kiss. As regards your response, many thanks butnufs a bit cryptic in the form I've received. I can't vote in London, it's just a mayoral position for those in the area, tbh Mr Khan does his best under very difficult circumstances, the real issue is the gov and the Met police, everyone wants Ms Dick to resign, I'm not sure that will change anything, the changes need to be made at government level and unfortunately our government only cares about turning our island into a 50s theme park for tax evasion. It will soon not be a place to live, only to retire to. Hope to speak to you properly and sorry you've had such trouble.
@MM-gd1dw
@MM-gd1dw 3 жыл бұрын
As always thank you for your unique ability to combine contemporary events with an educational component. Also, a huge thank you for keeping my semi-retired grandma brain engaged and functional. Counting down to 1 million subscribers!
@christinehutchins123
@christinehutchins123 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think it would be too hard to figure out that you shouldn't let someone with no money or car just walk out in the middle of nowhere in the middle of the night. If people would treat others how they would want to be treated , or how they would want their family member treated , things like this wouldn't happen. Totally unnecessary ...she should still be here...its more than a shame, I think its a crime itself.
@EXROBOWIDOW
@EXROBOWIDOW 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, but that's the Golden Rule-- that's religion, not science! And our "progressive" society has moved beyond that "archaic" stuff...
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 3 жыл бұрын
@@EXROBOWIDOW Lots of KKK members considered themselves Christian. Christianity doesn't cure all problems either.
@strangevisions5162
@strangevisions5162 2 жыл бұрын
they offered to let her stay in the lobby. she refused. should the police have the right to force you to wait in the lobby?
@strangevisions5162
@strangevisions5162 2 жыл бұрын
@@Catlily5 how many KKK members have you spoken with?
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 2 жыл бұрын
@@strangevisions5162 On the internet some. In person none that I know of. How many KKK members have you spoken to?
@holidaytrout5174
@holidaytrout5174 3 жыл бұрын
People at restaurant: she's having a mental breakdown, please help! Cops: Hmm what can we arrest her for
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 3 жыл бұрын
They called cos she tried to not pay.
@catnapper7509
@catnapper7509 3 жыл бұрын
They called the police! lmfao
@ransakreject5221
@ransakreject5221 3 жыл бұрын
As a police officer. We arrest people for stealing. That’s literally my job
@sadiyasaleh233
@sadiyasaleh233 3 жыл бұрын
Why would people call the police for someone who needs mental help in the first place? I thought police training is to deal with criminals and keep the society safe from them?
@gigi9301
@gigi9301 3 жыл бұрын
@@sadiyasaleh233 It's Crazy that the restaurant didn't let grandma pay over the phone w/ credit card and the manager or someone pay for a Lyft for her to get home safely. I get it ...they thought the police would protect her, but they sure Didn't !! They actually made her situation Worse!
@fadalerabrasool3563
@fadalerabrasool3563 3 жыл бұрын
What honestly frustrates me, is that mitrice was released with literally nowhere to go, She doesnt have her car, her phone to call anyone or any money. This is 100% preventable and the level of irresponsibility and negligence, of the police, will always anger and disgust me.
@shroomyk
@shroomyk 2 жыл бұрын
I once had to spend a weekend in jail after experiencing some domestic violence. I was released at 2am in the middle of the biggest city in our state. I am not from the city, but a small middle-of-nowhere village. I had no way to call anyone because I didn't have money for a payphone, and the buses were not running. I was 20. Ended up hitching a ride with some dudes who asked if I wanted to go to a party. I count myself extremely lucky that nothing happened that night. Unfortunately, with nowhere else to go I had to return to the apartment I was sharing with the guy who tried to smother me with a pillow 48 hours prior. I don't know what the police are thinking releasing people in the middle of the night like that and not providing a way to communicate or have transportation. My heart breaks for this woman and the lack of care shown to her.
@austriagiancarlo9433
@austriagiancarlo9433 3 жыл бұрын
As a Journalist, I've been on this story for over a decade now. After exhaustive research, it appears that she was rebounding from a bad break up. And was possibly lured to Malibu by someone she'd met while dancing. She could have been stood up, maybe two romantic rejections drove her over the edge. I used to be a life coach for addicts, sounds as though her weed stash was laced with a synthetic drug like Meth/Molly. That particular area is a hotspot for satanic gatherings. At 13:13 to 13:23 you had me cracking up when you said what you said about the CA. location and animals being "a little bit more into fashion." You have NO idea lol. I've lived in Santa Monica, CA. for 30 years now, and our homeless population is quite trendy. No kidding. I disagree with you Dr. Grande about THOSE particular cops. I know the area well as I used to hike there, excellent trails btw: Crime there is relatively minor, some of the LASD are rumored to have ties to white extremist groups. Where we disagree is that in LA and all surrounding counties, if the cops feel that a person is a danger to themselves or others, then it's the COUNTY sheriff's duty to IMMEDIATELY contact the PET (Psychiatric Evaluation Team) team of the nearest COUNTY based hospital. If the team feels that the person is stable enough to be released, then they get processed out with service referrals. They KNOW the drill. No one expects THEM to be social workers too, but, they can call the necessary pros. Right? Lost Hills Sheriff jail staff also did a sloppy job with her booking procedure. NO County jail inmate is to be released AFTER 9:pm-that's the law!!! And they lied to her Mum about her release. Mum TRUSTED the cops and look how her trust was misplaced. Not to mention how the cops ducked behind their nefarious "blue wall," all the while botching the investigation. The mural is KEY. My best guess is HATE CRIME by cop(s?), 'cause since when do the cops ever impede a Coroner's inquiry? Thanks for listening to my long-winded soliloquy Dr. Grande.
@teslaandhumanity7383
@teslaandhumanity7383 3 жыл бұрын
When did this all happen ? So sad 😞
@JohnDoe-kz4gy
@JohnDoe-kz4gy 3 жыл бұрын
I have one question though... When you mention satanic gatherings... Is that why the drugs might have been laced? Like was she drugged? Or were you mentioning that because she might have been invited to one of these gatherings by the person she met dancing? Or were you mentioning that because she could have been sacrificed? I'm only asking because that threw me off but it's an interesting part to the story
@xdandychiggins
@xdandychiggins 3 жыл бұрын
this case has been absolutely fascinating to me for some time now. thank you dr. grande for another professional video, i’m so glad i was introduced to you during my CMHC master’s program, we watched many of your roleplaying videos in one of my classes. you rock 🖤
@jennifermateos3015
@jennifermateos3015 3 жыл бұрын
Role playing?? Pls. Tell me more.
@rondasmith4037
@rondasmith4037 3 жыл бұрын
He don't rock today. I'm sorry but he made excuses for the officers. They knew something wasn't quite right but they let her go and Edited the tape!! We are supposed to be Human so Care Concern and Compassion should have made the policemen at the station make calls or whatever to find a family member to come pick her up!! If it would have been someone one they knew, they would've handled it Much Differently!! So today his Analysis is Way Off Base with the Police department and Excuses he gave for them!!! Unacceptable!!!!! They don't need training to make phone calls to family members to come pick her up or have her sent to a hospital to be Evaluated!!!
@xdandychiggins
@xdandychiggins 3 жыл бұрын
@@rondasmith4037 ….? i don’t know if we watched the same video, but he didn’t make any excuses for the officers. he blatantly said her death was easily preventable if the officers had more mental health training. someone always has to find something to be offended about.
@rondasmith4037
@rondasmith4037 3 жыл бұрын
Yes watched the same video. He did mention Mental Health Training. However no matter what lack of training We all Human First!!! Example 2 children playing and 1 falls and gets hurt or seem to be hurt, the other Child Immediately Tries to Help or will Dash for Help!!! That's Human Nature and Common Sense!!! She waa in the Officer's Care at the Station and there was Time to Think the Situation Through!!! Not Rocket Science!!! This part of his Analysis shouldn't be a 2 Fold Maybe!! Who's needs professional training to seek help for another person who needs help outside one's own ability??? There was no one the scene violence where guns were drawn either!!! The Officers had time to think!!!! No Maybes Here!!!! Totally Wrong!!! Maybe they were Psychotic Themselves or just didn't Give a D--n! Yes I'm Offended because I don't Care Who She Was A Life was Lost Without Excuse!!!
@xdandychiggins
@xdandychiggins 3 жыл бұрын
@@rondasmith4037 …again, he basically that the officers failed her in this scenario. you claim that he made excuses when he did no such thing and now you’re writing out an emotional conglomeration of nonsense. watch the video again if you need clarification.
@reggiebenes2916
@reggiebenes2916 3 жыл бұрын
Law enforcement need mental health professionals on staff to address cases like these. A policeman will never make a decent mental health counselor, no matter how much training they are given. Admittedly some handle situations OK, but that's not what they are qualified for, yet we just act as if a cop can diagnose a mental illness, and handle it correctly.
@doperagu8471
@doperagu8471 3 жыл бұрын
Not to even mention that the presence of a police officer, especially in uniform, can be quite distressing to a person suffering a mental health episode. In fact, often just the mere introduction of police can escalate the situation. Just another reason that we shouldn't rely on police to deal with people suffering these episodes.
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 3 жыл бұрын
I am mentally ill and have had the cops called on me a number of times. Before my city had cops trained in mental health they shot more mentally ill people and were worse to deal with. With mental health training they handle mentally ill people much better and kill fewer people. It is not ideal the way it is now but it is a big improvement.
@sandracmyers
@sandracmyers 3 жыл бұрын
*I* can't unhook my OWN bra sometimes, I doubt a raccoon managed it 🤣🤣🤣
@dancingcolorsVdeRegil
@dancingcolorsVdeRegil 3 жыл бұрын
Malibu Raccoons sounds like a great band name... of course, they have to be wearing bras....
@dancingcolorsVdeRegil
@dancingcolorsVdeRegil 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this case. It tears me apart, she graduated same year and same program as a family member, and as a woman of color in Los Angeles, like so many people of color, well educated but still seen as "less than". AS far as the folks at Geoffreys, not only could they have covered her meal, they could have let her grandmother pay over the phone, but they likely racially profiled them. If they had been locals or famous folk (many in Malibu are famous) that would have worked. Next, if she hadn't been quite so intense, she could have gotten her purse from her car and paid!! But obviously she wasn't alright! That said, Geoffreys is on the Coast Hwy mid Malibu, which along the coast is 27 miles. A key point that isn't obvious to any non local, the size and breadth of the Malibu/Santa Monica Mountains. Here is the picture : From Geoffrey's on the Coast hwy up through the canyon, over the mountain, and back down to the Sheriff's station is 9.2 miles! Over a mountain! Monte Nido is approximately half way in between, and the distance to where she was found in Dark Canyon, is 6 miles from the Lost Hills Sheriff's Station . All the way back over the mountain on the Coast Hwy, it's another 7 miles to the impound lot (this is likely one that was used as this coastline is not very populated with industry or anything less than expensive commerce), which she would NEVER had been able to make it to on foot, no matter how clear headed she was, no less in the middle of the night!She was targeted and abused by the police, and they forced her into harms way by not keeping her until morning. There was absolutely no reason to not let her stay safe in a cell when her mother was coming to pick her up as soon as possible, a matter of a few hours!! They were judged by the Sheriff's Station staff. Who knows if one of the people working in the Station saw her as someone they might be able to abuse. Perhaps that's why she was found like she was. And covered their tracks but removing the body before the coroner arrived. Poor Mitrice, and her whole family. I do agree with you, Dr, Grande, that it is a huge ask for police/sheriffs to have so many hats to wear, but out there, it's more like the wild west. I used to work in the next canyon up from that Sheriff's Station, and it's desolate. Nothing but large areas of wilderness with some housing enclaves. People mostly drive off road vehicles, trucks and SUV's. There are mountain lions. There are many other wild creatures there, owls, coyotes, fox, and for those who die in the wild (including the occasional human) Turkey Vultures! Again, thank you for looking into all of these cases.
@EXROBOWIDOW
@EXROBOWIDOW 3 жыл бұрын
She couldn't have gotten her car out of impound, because her purse was in the car, even IF she was able to get there, and even if her money/ purse were still in her car.
@janecee5499
@janecee5499 3 жыл бұрын
Uuuu7uuuuuuuu76
@andreasluxbr
@andreasluxbr 3 жыл бұрын
The evaluation regarding the issue of mental health as one more "expertise" for the police to handle is so valid, in my opinion. Thank you Dr Grande for your analysis!
@Wazupiseeyou
@Wazupiseeyou 3 жыл бұрын
But how will they have called an expert if they didn’t think anything was wrong with her? They didn’t document erratic behavior in report.
@cattycorner8
@cattycorner8 3 жыл бұрын
Andreas Lux I agree.
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wazupiseeyou Well, they obviously knew which portions to delete from her cell recordings.
@hannah50353
@hannah50353 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Dr Grande👋thank you for all the researched and soundly structured cases you present.
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 3 жыл бұрын
Never heard of case but interesting. In the midst of argumentative & narcissistic folks on YT, here's the calm, sweet, funny, reasonable doctor. Thanks Dr G😊💟💟
@drm2318
@drm2318 3 жыл бұрын
wait a sec here, is that "narcissistic folks on yt" a diagnosis, or are you simply speculating on what may be happenning in a situation like this?
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 3 жыл бұрын
@@drm2318 LOL. Just speculating and not diagnosing but pretty sure it's dead on accurate 😉
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 3 жыл бұрын
@Trueblave Challenge away. Attorneys thrive on it. But you can always remember your manners and be respectful True Blave regardless of your hackles being raised for differing views.
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 3 жыл бұрын
@Trueblave I would have to find and reread my original post. Gets buried in the 500 nasty replies I seem to get. See I get same judgments you do, by only the name I chose as moniker for email. BTW I have a caring attorney and like him fine. But as I said, and it was from what I'm repeating from what I've been told, many lawyers aren't ethical. Many people hate cops for no reason too, but I have family in LE so I have a different take. Although I understand if someone has a bad event or follows media bs they may hate LE. We all have views and I'm tired of being corrected, lectured, attacked, for simple but accurate opinions. I guess I have better things to do lol than argue or attack 😊ps but I have another attorney who ruined my life last 3 yrs with little facts...just has connections and a power trip. So you see even the fact I'm open to liking any attorneys a miracle. I know you all have a crap job at times and high stress. Some attorneys can handle it, some go to dark side. Stay on the good side 😊
@zenawarrior7442
@zenawarrior7442 3 жыл бұрын
@Trueblave You also friend thx😉❤💪👐
@Brandibb
@Brandibb 3 жыл бұрын
This one makes me so mad. It's obvious she needed help and if they didn't want to deal with her the police could have called for medical assistance and handed her off that way instead of sending her off alone at night.
@sunrae7680
@sunrae7680 2 жыл бұрын
@Bubbles Danger to herself. They could have released her to a family member. They found the alcohol in her car. Are u a cop ?
@mikebell2112
@mikebell2112 3 жыл бұрын
They do have specially trained officers in Memphis who are dispatched to the scene when a mental health problem is suspected. No untrained officers arrive at the scene until they rendezvous with the trained officer(s).
@bobhunt3398
@bobhunt3398 3 жыл бұрын
Need more!!!!👍👍👍👍
@cattycorner8
@cattycorner8 3 жыл бұрын
That is excellent. Proud of Memphis for stepping up.
@maureeningleston1501
@maureeningleston1501 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this case it's so sad the poor girl desperately need help immediately, as you say Dr Grande the people in the restaurant recognised that but the police did not. !?!?.... (Or simply couldn't be bothered) or felt out of their depths. imo......I wonder what it will take for police departments to realise they desperately need to have a MHP on call to help with cases such as this, very vulnerable people.
@catnapper7509
@catnapper7509 3 жыл бұрын
well you could always cut their budgets, I'm sure that will help. How many mentally ill people do you reach out to and help on a daily basis? The police have their hands full with all the shootings, car jackings, robberies, muggings, murders, rapes, etc. Maybe if communities would start helping to get criminals off the streets instead of protecting them, the police could focus on babysitting the mentally ill. Any one of the people at the restaurant could have assisted her instead of calling the police.
@JeannetteShoreland
@JeannetteShoreland 3 жыл бұрын
@@catnapper7509 Absolutely, a 'money' hat could have been passed around the restaurant staffers to cover the bill. Talk is cheap; neither the restaurant staff nor their patrons did one thing to assist this woman. The short version is that they just wanted her gone.
@lynncrf
@lynncrf 3 жыл бұрын
@@catnapper7509 Decriminalising drugs would mean that police could spend their time on real criminals who rape and murder rather than on addicts just trying to get by. Then again the "war on drugs" is a real money spinner so there isn't much motivation for that. It's sad though as getting rid of it would mean that there would be more money for mental health services and the police could concentrate on the important stuff.
@camimons470
@camimons470 3 жыл бұрын
The jail let’s people out in the wee hours of the morning with no money, ID, phone, etc. This just happened to my friend’s son. He has a mental illness involving psychosis. During an episode he lost his phone and wallet. He was in a city far from his family. Luckily he managed to get through the night and call his mother on someone else’s phone this next morning. This is a terrible practice for the police.
@puketinmoarliek994
@puketinmoarliek994 2 жыл бұрын
Why the hell do they do that, it seems like a prank😂
@LeeDee5
@LeeDee5 3 жыл бұрын
"Perhaps the animals are more into fashion." You really went there Dr. Grande, you really went there.
@MissIncorrigibleOfOz
@MissIncorrigibleOfOz 3 жыл бұрын
I love his deadpan delivery!
@elijahwatson8119
@elijahwatson8119 3 жыл бұрын
You're gonna have to do a video on NFL player Henry Ruggs who got drunk and killed someone in a car crash last night. The mindset to have a 16 million dollar contract where you could buy a limo and a personal driver and yet you still drive drunk? I can't comprehend it.
@duvessa2003
@duvessa2003 Жыл бұрын
I think the very most important quality for a police officer is emotional maturity. Very few possess this and so we end up with a lot of bad cops.
@suereeves5994
@suereeves5994 3 жыл бұрын
There was a young man from Phoenix called Brian Histand who had a kind of break, was walking around naked with a bag of trash in his hand. The police were called and didn't help and just walked off and left him after telling him to get dressed. His remains were found nearby months later.
@loriburnip
@loriburnip 3 жыл бұрын
That's so sad. When I saw the video of cops attack a mentally ill man named Kelly Thomas I couldn't help but cry. As they beat him he screamed for his dad (who wasn't there) to help him. The pictures of him in the hospital afterwards are terrifying. His face looked like hamburger 😥. I don't understand how anyone can be so callous & cruel. Why aren't police trained how to deescalate a situation rather than making it worse?! Too many police are on a power trip. There needs to be stricter psychological testing in order to be a police officer, and training needs to be improved tenfold.
@kaleyhuber74
@kaleyhuber74 2 жыл бұрын
'"The people at the restaurant really wanted to help Richardson out. They didn't think going to jail for an unpaid bill made a lot of sense." "The manager decided to press charges." well okay. "They called Mildred in effort to resolve the unpaid bill but refused to take her credit card." -then why did they call her? what were they expecting "There was a feeling of relief when the police came because [then they knew Richardson would be safe]." lol no. I like your optimistic attitude Dr. G but what they were *really* thinking was most likely "Phew, thank god; now we don't have to deal with her anymore... The cops will take it from here and get her out of our hair."
@burprobrox9134
@burprobrox9134 3 жыл бұрын
Why not call the paramedics? If they were willing to cover the bill and wanted to help with a potential medical issue, seems call medical experts not criminal experts.
@pl-mn2ro
@pl-mn2ro 3 жыл бұрын
If she couldn’t pays for food, how would she had pay the EMS and the Hospital Emergencies?
@Vonononie
@Vonononie 3 жыл бұрын
@@pl-mn2ro as I live in the UK we don’t have to worry about cost and insurance when someone is having a medical emergency. I guess that’s why in the USA the police are called as that public service is paid out from taxes. That’s a shame for everyone as they don’t have the training to deal with mental health issues
@Vonononie
@Vonononie 3 жыл бұрын
@@somethingelse4424 I saw a clip of a woman who had fallen under a train and her leg was shredded. She was begging people not to call the paramedics as she couldn’t afford it. I can’t imagine being in such a terrible situation and begging people not to help. I’m so grateful for the NHS and the times my life, and that of my family and friends, have been saved
@joanneyoung1081
@joanneyoung1081 3 жыл бұрын
This was so sad to hear they knew her car was towed & her purse in there. One of the cops should have driven her home if they did not want to let her stay over in a cell. They should have thought primarily of her safety.
@alexlato3974
@alexlato3974 3 жыл бұрын
It's very likely that they called 911, and from there would be up to dispatch to send help. I was in a similar situation and I asked dispatch for ONLY an ambulance, and they sent the police when I told them that I suspected an overdose. I felt really bad because I never wanted to get the kid in trouble, just wanted to get him help.
@maryam.ferenc
@maryam.ferenc Жыл бұрын
She was beautiful. That's so unfortunate that she made such a poor decision. She needed a friend.
@donalynette
@donalynette 3 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%. Law Enforcement, & EVERYONE ELSE, could benefit from more instruction of compassion.
@catserver8577
@catserver8577 3 жыл бұрын
Even a middle school student would have figured out not to let her walk out the door at midnight, with no car and no ID. The cops were negligent. They were wrong to not take her to her car, at least. I will say straight out that law enforcement contributed directly to her death, however she wound up dying. Ridiculous.
@memomorph5375
@memomorph5375 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering this case. Alcohol intensifies the effects of mj. It can rarely cause acute psychosis in some people, I’ve seen it personally. First-break psychosis also comes to mind
@yasuke9317
@yasuke9317 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree that mj and alcohol cause acute psychosis. People do it all the time, if it were a serious problem it would happen more often. I'm not psychotic. 😁
@memomorph5375
@memomorph5375 3 жыл бұрын
@@yasuke9317 I smoke it as well but it violently disagrees with some people. Something different in how it interacts with receptors in the brain
@Wazupiseeyou
@Wazupiseeyou 3 жыл бұрын
Marijuana causes hallucinations. I learned this as a kid 30 years ago. Am I missing something?
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 3 жыл бұрын
@@yasuke9317 Marijuana is worse for people who are psychotic. Most people don't react that way but some do.
@dorothyhansen4374
@dorothyhansen4374 3 жыл бұрын
Mental health aside, releasing a young woman in the middle of the night with no way home was insanely irresponsible. Many many years ago in my youth I was detained for a short time in the middle of the night and the police actually drove me home.
@ChristinePerez903
@ChristinePerez903 3 жыл бұрын
That sad what happen to Mitrice. Great analysis Dr Grande!!!
@juliakaz146
@juliakaz146 2 жыл бұрын
The police released me at 1am before too, I had no money either. They really shouldn't be allowed to do that.
@stevemorris270
@stevemorris270 3 жыл бұрын
Releasing anyone who is without money and a phone at 12:30am from this Sheriff's station is negligent. Map the location of the Calabasas station, there is nothing nearby that would be open after midnight.
@maureeningleston1501
@maureeningleston1501 3 жыл бұрын
I agree !! this case has always haunted me, they could have done more. If the people in the restaurant could see she needed help then why not the police ?.....aren't they supposed to serve and protect ??????
@maureeningleston1501
@maureeningleston1501 3 жыл бұрын
@Bubbles Bedlam Forget emotional thinking!!!!....how about some common sense ?...They could have made sure she was collected by a relative or friend instead of being tossed out in the middle of the night, there's no way in hell they couldn't have known she was suffering from some sort of mental health crisis going by her behaviour. Unfortunately the police seemed as if they just couldn't be bothered (maybe too much paperwork).....Cops are always bragging about their "gut feelings" with criminals, it's a pity their "GUT" didn't ring alarm bells for a very vulnerable young lady !!!....maybe if it had she would be alive today.
@kathyclark8274
@kathyclark8274 3 жыл бұрын
Once again, not their problem, right?
@kathyclark8274
@kathyclark8274 3 жыл бұрын
@Bubbles Bedlam Spoken like a true blue FOP supporter.
@catnapper7509
@catnapper7509 3 жыл бұрын
@@maureeningleston1501 That's not their job. She was offered a place to wait safely. she chose to leave. Her family knew she was messed up, and it's THEIR responsibility to take care of her.
@mtadams2009
@mtadams2009 4 ай бұрын
My family works in law enforcement and they have said for years they needed help with mental health issues. The police force that they work at now have social workers who are available and they do run calls with the police when they are needed. I think this will become more common because many of the calls the police run are really mental health issues, not actual police work.
@ethorii
@ethorii 3 жыл бұрын
My daughter was diagnosed with bipolar disorder at age 8. She had a psychotic episode where she thought she wqs being kidnapped by aliens, and she asked her mother to kill her. I was unaware that bipolar could bring on psychosis. My daughter responded well to medication so fortunately that one scary night wasn't repeated.
@kathyclark8274
@kathyclark8274 3 жыл бұрын
Schizophrenia pales by comparison to someone in the acute stages of a manic psychosis, in my own experience. Managing a pt in such a state is daunting, to say the least.
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 3 жыл бұрын
@@kathyclark8274 It really depends more on the individual person than what diagnosis they have.
@stevie4641
@stevie4641 3 жыл бұрын
I used to work at a Mental Health Agency and participate in yearly CIT (Crisis Intervention Training). Local law enforcement would visit our (and other) agencies and, with the permission of our clients, observe. Then we'd go to the Sheriff's office and act out 'skits' to help LE learn how to deal with someone having a mental health crisis. At the time, I felt we were really making a difference. Hearing a story like this, I have my doubts. I really enjoy your analysis Dr Grande. And your incredibly dry wit.
@Catlily5
@Catlily5 3 жыл бұрын
You did help. I am mentally ill and it has been much better since some of the police in my city got CIT training. I have seen the results first hand. There is still a long way to go but things are much better. Police kill fewer mentally ill people.
@stevie4641
@stevie4641 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Cat Lily. I've really had my doubts after so many recent events when the police didn't seem to try to deescalate the situation, but rather just made things worse. It makes me feel better to read your words. Even if one person was helped, that's a step in the right direction. Best to you!
@dawn1913
@dawn1913 3 жыл бұрын
the police aren't expected to dx a mental illness however, it's clearly evident she was experiencing some kind of mental crisis. they have resources to call upon to help in that type of situation and CHOSE not to use it. the police, for whatever reasons, failed this young woman. also, releasing her before morning so that her mom could pick her up, as her mom requested, was negligent on the police. not to mention cutting the video footage, likely hiding evidence she was experiencing a psychotic break and completely (and conveniently) ignored it. something is very suspect with this police unit.
@cattycorner8
@cattycorner8 3 жыл бұрын
Do they? Do police have resources they can call upon for help with mental health issues? It varies from bureau to bureau.
@dawn1913
@dawn1913 3 жыл бұрын
@@cattycorner8 WE ALL DO, EVEN THE POLICE!
@Gwmcmi02
@Gwmcmi02 3 ай бұрын
I don’t think she met the evidentiary threshold for an involuntary hospitalization. It’s clear she would have benefited from mental health assistance, but most municipalities require a person be a clear and immediate threat to their (or someone else’s) life. She wasn’t making a lot of sense but it doesn’t sound like she made any statements to suggest she would harm herself or appear unable to care for herself beyond being unable to pay a bill.
@Meowlein
@Meowlein 3 жыл бұрын
"There was no reason to keep her over night" .... apart from the fact she had no way of getting home, no way to contact anyone or get a cab without phone or money? Not sure I agree with the judgement of the police here to release a lone woman at night to wander around on foot
@barbieblue3336
@barbieblue3336 Жыл бұрын
So sad & tragic 😪 Maybe dehydration, hunger, fatigue ?
@Joy31608
@Joy31608 3 жыл бұрын
Her parents were contacted and told that she would be released the following morning yet they released her without transportation that night.
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 3 жыл бұрын
Well they did say she could wait in the lobby
@ignominius3111
@ignominius3111 3 жыл бұрын
They blinked and changed their mind. They do that a lot. Do they have unstable minds? Or is it a failure of moral integrity? Or just the Mutt and Jeff technique? No matter what, they don’t apologize for anything and have immunity from responsibility for their behavior. “So hit the road before we think of another way to make life hard for you “Protect and serve”
@eadweard.
@eadweard. 3 жыл бұрын
@@ignominius3111 Incoherent babble.
@Sun_MoonAries
@Sun_MoonAries 3 жыл бұрын
@@eadweard. can you wait in the lobby please
@sschw68
@sschw68 3 жыл бұрын
there is a video on KZbin that shows how far the police station is from where she was seen in the back yard, it's a twisty turny hilly route
@sjoncb
@sjoncb 3 жыл бұрын
She passed a field sobriety test but the restaurant manager questioned if she would be a danger to herself soooo pressing charges, sending her to jail and having her car towed was a better option all over an $89 bill. At that point she has an arrest record, an impound bill, court costs/ticket and the $89 restaurant tab. *They shouldve just let her go*
@TransKidRevolution
@TransKidRevolution 9 ай бұрын
Mitrice stole from them. The restaurant had every reason to call the police.
@karenneill9109
@karenneill9109 2 жыл бұрын
In the UK there is a nurse at every jail. When you’re booked in they do a quick physical and mental health check on every prisoner. It seems to make a lot of sense- the time saved in not having to go to the ER just to check for a concussion alone makes it worth it.
@unicorn_bones
@unicorn_bones Жыл бұрын
The police could have just listened to her mom !!! 😡
@gaylemc2692
@gaylemc2692 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you have a good day Dr. Grande.
@thereal4113
@thereal4113 3 жыл бұрын
When in California trying to find a girl with tattoos is like trying to find the Pacific Ocean.
@slofty
@slofty 3 жыл бұрын
lol
@rubyh1706
@rubyh1706 3 жыл бұрын
And that's when you're standing right next to the Pacific ocean lol
@kristina4272
@kristina4272 2 жыл бұрын
Common sense would dictate that you should not release a woman alone in the middle of the night with no phone or transportation. It doesn't take special training.
@kristina4272
@kristina4272 Жыл бұрын
@@mandywarski2414 How about a lift home? That seems like common sense to me.
@beatpirate8
@beatpirate8 Жыл бұрын
someone picked her up. knew something was wrong with her and she is vulnerable. i cant believe these police dont have daughters sisters and mothers . they would not release a woman out there like that . they have no regard for her life when they were done. they did not provide her care and mental health assessment. she was such a young bright woman.
@unkadv9
@unkadv9 Жыл бұрын
100% The deputy seen leaving out right after her definitely knows more , I bet he promised her a ride and took advantage of her. Full footage of Mitrice in custody on my channel !
@rondahampton6441
@rondahampton6441 3 жыл бұрын
Please add the fact that the arresting officer, Armando Loureiro made a statement that he took Mitrice Richardson to jail because she was "acting ditzy" and that he was "concerned for her safety". He chose to take her to jail instead of the hospital for an evaluation. He had enough training to know she needed to be taken in for an evaluation, he as just too lazy.
@bipolarbat
@bipolarbat 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this case
@lauriestump7134
@lauriestump7134 9 ай бұрын
The police promised Mitrice’s mom they would not release her before daylight. And then did anyway.
@EXROBOWIDOW
@EXROBOWIDOW 3 жыл бұрын
It seems that, if they told her mother they would keep her safe, that was a promise they should have kept. Also, letting people out of jail in the middle of the night, without any resources to get themselves to a safe place, is highly irresponsible. I call this a callous lack of common sense and human decency. I doubt mental health training would cure those problems.
@carrington2949
@carrington2949 3 жыл бұрын
As a kid, I remember my grandparents and then my mom having to care for my schizophrenic uncle. An OG psychiatric nurse once to my grandmother to thank her lucky stars that her mentally ill child was a male. She said the only thing worse than being mentally ill was being a mentally ill, attractive girl. It was callous asf to say, yet I think about it everytime I hear about this case.
@drhyshek
@drhyshek 3 жыл бұрын
A male friend driving in an unknown town got arrested at night and released from the police station at night. He had no idea where his car was. It seems like they should take them back to their car, especially a female. Quite ridiculous.
@doperagu8471
@doperagu8471 3 жыл бұрын
The police HAD her car in custody apparently. Plus her mother called several times that night to speak with someone and make sure they would not release her until the next morning, as her mom wouldn't be able to get her until the morning. Instead they "release" her in the middle of the night, when the buses are no longer running, it's been made clear she isn't from the area, everyone at the restaurant was highly concerned about her behavior, and her mother specifically called many times to make sure they wouldn't release her until a family member was able to come and get her. But they release her in the middle of the night, with nothing on her? It makes no sense. Negligence at best, and something nefarious at worst.
@drhyshek
@drhyshek 3 жыл бұрын
@@doperagu8471 Absolutely.
@barrygoodson7503
@barrygoodson7503 3 жыл бұрын
Dr Grande killing it with the frequency of content.
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI 3 жыл бұрын
Definite cover-up by the cops.. Justice for Mitrice and her loved ones🙏🏽
@lonerebeI
@lonerebeI 2 жыл бұрын
@TheReaper74 Yea sure it was buddy
@gertrudemilhouse5626
@gertrudemilhouse5626 Жыл бұрын
​@lonerebeI they didn't even investigate her death and purposely went against the coroner's instructions moving her remains, leaving some behind! The video released was edited! They refused 2 give the full video!
@latoyawebster1776
@latoyawebster1776 3 жыл бұрын
I work in the ER in Philadelphia. The police bring patients in for all manner of miner scraps, abrasion etc. in California, the mentally ill just wonders of in the middle of the night.
@michaelgreer9023
@michaelgreer9023 3 жыл бұрын
What is painfully obvious in this case is how "normal" people fail to provide or adapt to "unusual" people. Probably the "normal" person in all of his or her average normalcy has never thought beyond the imposed limits of society's conventions. Everything is already in a box that can be defined. There is little or no ambiguity, no sense that many people simply don't process information the way "normal" people do. I'm so glad not-to-be-normal.
@OisO8
@OisO8 3 жыл бұрын
I read that the man who'd called police about her being on his property is a wealthy man with a reputation of sexual deviancy and one theory is that he did something to her, of which the police are well aware and covering up or may also be a party to. In any case it's odd that they would deny an assault has taken place with her clothes like that. Another black woman also talked about being let out in middle of the night from that station and how frightened she was. It seems to be by design. But since this is about mental health analysis...
@songsalon7868
@songsalon7868 2 жыл бұрын
Police shouldn't need more training in common sense. They failed her.
@WolfRanger2008
@WolfRanger2008 2 жыл бұрын
I don't disagree with your analysis but I think you overlooked one other possibility: "Callousness" on the part of the police. It may be that in some instances it is not the lack of training and/or cursory knowledge of basic psychology that lead to this sort of preventable tragedy but sheer indifference and a almost sociopathic lack of empathy.
@Americans4Israel4Ever
@Americans4Israel4Ever 3 жыл бұрын
Proof a sense of humor is correlated with intelligence.
@gazepskotzs4
@gazepskotzs4 3 жыл бұрын
And also with being attractive....
@kelsey2333
@kelsey2333 3 жыл бұрын
Yes you need intelligence to have wit
@kelsey2333
@kelsey2333 3 жыл бұрын
@@gazepskotzs4 since when? Lol
@noongourfain
@noongourfain 3 жыл бұрын
@@kelsey2333 There can also be an intersection of GOOD humor & BAD taste. So it's complicated.
@angelapitts2123
@angelapitts2123 3 жыл бұрын
Dr. G , best sense of humor💛💕🥰
@BucketHeadianHagg
@BucketHeadianHagg 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, I just read about this today! Man, Dr Grande, you're really on the ball! (Your shirt looks so soft and comfortable!) 💜
@vellaimaliapu6374
@vellaimaliapu6374 3 жыл бұрын
The team from the service(s) industry, have people managing skills in relation to what their job requires. The police team are trained to enforce law and order. Lacking soft skills (and common sense/EQ) handicaps what would fill out the space in between the two. Also, no logic to why let anyone out at 12.15 AM? The person could end up a statistic from a mugging!
@timhax77
@timhax77 Жыл бұрын
The police probably should have housed her on a 5150 72-hour hold for mental health observation and treatment, rather than housing her in jail. Especially for someone showing mental health issues and who alledgedly committee such a minor crime.
@hunna5849
@hunna5849 2 жыл бұрын
God bless her wonderful grandmother who really tried to pay her bill
@ATXviIIIe
@ATXviIIIe 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering these cases. Hopefully many watch and learn including law enforcement and families of troubled people.
@cottontails9003
@cottontails9003 3 жыл бұрын
Good afternoon Dr Grande. Great analysis. It would seem the police, had no idea too deal with a person, who had mental health issues. Your right about the police need to have some police can deal with people who have mental health care, but basically, it comes down to commonsense. Brilliant analysis. Thank you Dr Grande.
@lightningbug276
@lightningbug276 3 жыл бұрын
I remember this and I think of her. It’s so horrible.
@Ranalla651
@Ranalla651 3 жыл бұрын
I like what you say about the police. They have all this responsibility and dutys, yet they are paid poorly and deal with the worse of the worse. I am just an auto mechanic, but i have said since day 1 police should be paid BIG but have training like a doctor or lawyer does in length. Just my thoughts.
@catnapper7509
@catnapper7509 3 жыл бұрын
YES. Considering they have one of the most dangerous jobs out there, yet people who have no problem blowing thousands of dollars on nonsense refuse to support them being properly paid. That is a choice of ignorant citizens. Most of whom offer no assistance even when they witness crimes.
@lolazal1
@lolazal1 3 жыл бұрын
US police officers are not poorly paid.
@catnapper7509
@catnapper7509 3 жыл бұрын
@@lolazal1 wrong again
@menzere2009
@menzere2009 3 жыл бұрын
Cat Napper They have a very stressful jobs but not one of the most dangerous. This myth doesn’t help anyone including the police.
@TheIddieMorris
@TheIddieMorris 3 жыл бұрын
I was a medic while a law enforcement officer. Medical training was very very valuable
@distilledutopia3468
@distilledutopia3468 3 жыл бұрын
Sadly this is typical LA, very sad and bizarre story
@aes0p895
@aes0p895 Жыл бұрын
Say what you will about Richardson, but "Defrauding an Innkeeper" is one of the coolest sounding extant crimes I've ever heard.
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