Unravelling the Mystery of the Infantorium

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[@Heva1987]

My grandma was born pre-mature in the 1920's, the doctors told her parents that the kind thing to do would be to not care for her as she would die an early death and not be disabled. Her parent's decided to ignore this advice and cared for her and she lived. The doctor were surprised but then said she would never have a normal life or have chlidren. She became an educated book clerk and wartime nurse and had 3 kids. She passed away at aged 89 after a full life. Doctors were very wrong

[@sandrakayjenkins7745]

That still goes on! I was advised to abort my eldest son as I had a lot of health issues that might effect the baby. He was a poorly baby spending his first couple of weeks in an incubator, Thanks Neo natal care he is now a strapping 6' 4" 25 year old, with a degree in Graphic design & a job designing safe playgrounds for children 🙂

[@Heva1987]

@@sandrakayjenkins7745 that is really shocking. I am glad that you made your own choice hun. My ex mother-in-law tried to tell me to not have kids as my ex husband was on the spectrum and that I wouldn't cope. I told her if I have kids it's my choice, if the have needs then I will cope. It turns out that I am also on the spectrum so understand more than she ever could.

[@ConquerYou]

Doctors are wrong alot we all are finding all over again.

[@TheTuta69]

Reminds me of a time doctors were wrong in small town I come from, this old lady got diagnosed with cancer, they told her she had less than 5 years to live, she outlived her doctor and died peacefully 10-15 years later lol

[@BlimpBlomp]

@@sandrakayjenkins7745 you and your son are both awesome! That sounds like a great job!

[@CyborgWolf]

He may have been "sketchy" but honestly, what's sketchy when you save 7000 babies without ruining the parents? It seems "insensitive" to put them on display, but the money raised helped them so... Yeah I can't be mad at him. The guy is a hero.

[@mariaadeel2423]

Ad displaying them also help aqquaint other people with the idea that pre-mature babies had a chance and could grow up healthy. Plus it would've been more difficult to spread the idea if he had't put them in a carnival

[@MVAS-mp9oo]

The displaying also doubles as "Look closely, these things is actually human too, so f*ck eugenics."

[@rogelio6805]

Exactly... In addition to be a hero, in my book that guy is a real doctor 😁

[@teknyte-1]

Proof that what seems insensitive isn’t always bad

[@davetdowell]

By aiding their survival (once the medical profession got on board) he also made it possible for medical science to get a greater understanding of human developmental processes, so likely had a ripple effect that saved (and is still saving) millions more. Very cool.

[@zoiemarks]

so he essentially crowd funded a revolutionary treatment plan for these babies and in return for the crowd funding they were able to view the babies they supported, this is genius

[@raineheartily3875]

An early twitch baby watch stream

[@DatAsianGuy]

@@raineheartily3875 dude invented kickstarter lmao.

[@yeet4073]

Truly a man ahead of his time

[@samfoley8106]

Honestly, even if he did do this to “line his pockets”, I’d still be ok with it. He still saved so many infants lives, and proved so many doctors wrong by saving their lives and saving families so much heartbreak.

[@Guilherme-ms3ub]

Everyone lines their own pockets. When they buy something or work for someone.Other wise the alternative would be slavery.

[@x3woots]

Whats wrong with doing a lot of work that saves lives while also making a lot money AND not harming anyone? If anything thats what the goal of everyone should be. Honestly, people who get mad at others doing jobs that save lives for money (not talking about you here) are the dumbest, do they think "HOW DARE HE SAVE LIVES AND IMPROVE HIS OWN IN THE PROCESS! HE SHOULD ONLY HARM HIMSELF WHILE HEALING OTHERS"

[@overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473]

Getting rewarded for your hard work or heroism, that’s called the grind, and last I checked Heracles was rewarded for many of his good deeds and even eventually becoming a god for doing so many good things. I wouldn’t have the world work any differently than that.

[@-fv]

@@overlordwarlordtheomnilord9473 Trillionaire Grindset

[@triplemoyagames4195]

Most innovation is made from competition. Most aircraft developments came from Wars, Space-travel from the cold-war. Most car innovations come from races. That's how humans work

[@kathythomas7371]

Humane treatment of nurses. WHAT A GREAT IDEA ! !

[@garyberger9257]

And good pay? This guy was onto something.

[@sebastianc9716]

Considering Capitalism: No wonder he could only set it up in midst of freakshows.

[@mudder7952]

@@sebastianc9716 you're absolutely correct, he would have been better off in communist Russia, and it was closer.

[@leogama3422]

What is a "wet nurse"?

[@adamperryofficial]

NHS could never

[@kght222]

in a world where most of the doctors that existed would be in prison if they practiced today, was he really a fake?

[@garyberger9257]

What is the point of a doctor if not to help the helpless? Who could possibly be more helpless than an infant born to an impoverished family?

[@runswithwindz9875]

Great comment 👍

[@openyoureyes3113]

One of the best comments I’ve read 🙂

[@thursoberwick1948]

You're not allowed to practice unless you agree with the party line nowadays.

[@Lamarth1]

We're now in a world where he would be in prison for attempting such a practice.

[@ATBZ]

Honestly this dude is an angel, saving tons of babies while not charging the parents at all. And even only charged visitors just enough to pay his nurses and himself. One of the few uncorrupt medical pioneers.

[@KSangel180]

My Great Aunt was a preemie. Her Mother died in labor. The Doctors told my Great Grandpa that she wouldn't make it and that that was just how it was for preemies. Grandpa didn't give up. He got as much advice as he could and set about taking care of her. He kept her in a shoe box by the fire and fed her goat's milk. She grew up to be beautiful and sweet. She went on to live into her 80's. Grandpa was definitely not a perfect person but he did the right thing then.

[@massiveheadwoundharry6833]

My mother stopped producing milk shortly after I was born. We lived in rural Alaska and there was no baby formula available and my parents couldn't afford it if there was. The neighbors had goats and gave my mom goat milk to feed me. She mixed brewer's yeast with the goat milk as a homemade formula. This was 1976-77. It worked well.

[@allisoncurtis4260]

It makes me wonder about all the stories of kids being raised by animals! Hmm, I wonder if any were raised by goats!

[@thatoneweeb9409]

Doctor: How do we solve infant mortality? This is impossible- Fake Doctor: It's my time to shine.😎

[@dwinters6291]

He most likely wasn't fake

[@Valigarmanda]

@@dwinters6291 "Fake" implying he probably didn't have a degree. But his results clearly speak for themselves.

[@TheCaptainSplatter]

@@Valigarmanda two things. No degree, and unlicensed most likely. But ya he knew his stuff.

[@SorowFame]

If the problem can’t be solved by real doctors the only option is to send not a real doctor

[@animeforever8508]

Thus it further proves that degrees mean nothing but skills and willingness to help do

[@flicka25]

He was ahead of his time and like so many like him was ridiculed. I'm glad he was proven right.

[@garyberger9257]

He'll join the ranks of Galileo and Copernicus as far as I'm concerned. Maybe one day, when humans mature, we'll make scientific advancements without having to ridicule a person for thinking differently. Maybe.

[@stueyfx9350]

Up there with Nikolai Tesla

[@pineapplehead789]

How many people are we ridiculing today that have ideas beyond their time?

[@colin-_-2945]

@@stueyfx9350 I was thinking the same thing he wasn't in it for the money

[@andregon4366]

@@garyberger9257 Go sink your money on solar roadways then. Cherry picking a few cases of success doesn't change the fact that 99.99% of ridiculed people are scammers or idiots. Especially when their outrageous ideas break fundamental laws of thermodynamics.

[@randomlycreative7194]

It was probably because he wasn’t a real medical doctor that he came up with such a solution. He wasn’t worried about what other academics would think of him

[@FabbrizioPlays]

Yeah, medicine at the time was kind of a cesspool of dunning kruger syndrome. Lots of people who conflated privilege with intelligence, and assumed if you weren't one of the people who paid to be part of the in-group, you couldn't possibly know anything. It's no wonder eugenics was so popular, if people didn't know the difference.

[@its_sigh9545]

I’m just gonna say it; IF he did do this for money, which I doubt it, he deserves it tenfold. As well as an award. Regardless of the reasons, the outcome is incredible and genius.

[@lovetobe6118]

Yeah I hate when people say he doesn't deserve money even if he saved lives. I wouldn't be surprised if they demanded a hard working individual hand over their money.

[@FabbrizioPlays]

No no, don't you see? You can only be a hero if you starve in the process. Those are the rules.

[@FitPatton]

He's ain't a doctor, he's an angel.

[@ixyzyxi]

And like that a new faith starts

[@kommandantgalileo]

True

[@garyberger9257]

Agreed. The pain of losing a baby to premature birth. I can only imagine the horror the parents must've felt.

[@eburel506]

There is a special place in heaven for him.

[@victorious1929]

This is still happening. If the pharmaceutical companies didn’t come up with the (cure). You can f’off. They want money not save lives... well live spelled backwards is evil.

[@garyberger9257]

This video very nearly brought me to tears. Not because you did anything wrong, but because the subject matter hits really close to home. Babies in my family have died from premature birth, and I grew up hearing about what they might've looked like, or how they might've acted. If this man prevented families from feeling that pain up to 7,000 times, he gets called a Doctor in my book. He's a hero.

[@MultiMoo20]

As a grandma who has a little one in heaven, I absolutely agree with you!!! One day I’ll see my little grandson. It’s heartbreaking he’s not here though…💔

[@raven2016]

As an uncle who lost my niece not long ago, I was very conflicted to click on this video...I feel you....

[@graham6721]

+1

[@wesleyparker8616]

And the nurses too!

[@crimsonffire]

One of my brother's is only here because of an incubator , had to stay in one for nearly 2 months when he was born. Few friends and family same thing. So I agree with you this man should be called a doctor. He earned that title.

[@alicewilloughby4318]

5:33 - Smart! Especially when you consider how little most people knew about the dangers of alcohol and cigarets to unborn babies and the recipients of breast milk! I say it's wonderful that this doctor (whether real or otherwise) found a way to save so many babies without charging the parents! If he had to put the premature infants on display to make it work, so be it! I was appalled when I first learned that eugenics was actually a thing in this country - and in the 20th Century, for God's sake!! What's wrong with people?! 12:08 - But a fire can break out almost anywhere! Why blame it on the amusement park?

[@tancoat1346]

Defunctland has a great video covering Coney Island. Pretty much the fire was preventable but turned into a complete disaster after mismanaged firefighting.

[@Unknown_101_]

My mother works at a nursing home my whole life pretty much. I met one of the babies that actually came from the infanthorium. She still had the metal bracelet that they gave out. To the babies that had her name on it so that she wouldn’t get mixed up with anyone. I just found it so interesting and fascinating.

[@Johnny-sj9sj]

I was born in 1948. My mother was a chain-smoking 41-year-old and had previously suffered a couple of miscarriages. I was just over one month premature and hit the scales at 4 lb 2 oz, spending my first six weeks in an incubator. My father wasn’t allowed to see me for nearly 2 months, by which time he said he could bathe my head in a teacup. I am now fit and healthy and I’ve put on a bit of weight since then. This guy, loony or not, thanks Doc! 🤪🇬🇧

[@stewartmeetball3417]

I'm a premature baby too 6 weeks. too a chain smoking 15 year old in 1984. Same as yourself with the incubator and no contact till immune system is strong enough..I've grown a bit as well..

[@Johnny-sj9sj]

@@stewartmeetball3417 wonderful to see you’re doing well Stewart! I’m glad that you are a member of this most exclusive club!

[@dancingnature]

I was 4lbs 2 oz born a month early in the early 50s . I used to joke that mom got pregnant on her wedding night because I was born 8 months later.

[@nicholasneyhart396]

Jesus I was 3 months premature and weighed 8lb 11oz.

[@lean2christ534]

i was born 2 months prematurely in 2006-

[@amybradbury338]

I had an elderly friend who told me he'd been born premature in the early 1900's. Everyone was devastated, sure he would die, but his grandmother refused to give up. The story goes that she fired up their wood stove, wrapped him in blankets, and put him in a pot on the back burner, then kept the stove burning day and night, and that's where he lived for the first months of his life. I always thought it was an incredible story, and an incredible woman, and I'm glad I got the chance to have known him.

[@gfdereus8967]

Slow cooking your kid until done. Absolutely perfect haha it's also such smart thinking!! That's amazing

[@crisptomato9495]

Smart woman. Glad he lived to tell the tale.

[@34psychotic]

I was told a family member on my maternal grandmother's side was born weighing only 1lb. They were wrapped in blankets and placed in a shoebox close to the stove to keep warm.

[@jahajahai6204]

Now i can't stop thinking probably what gems humanity lost bc of sexism.

[@lordjaraxxus5418]

@@jahajahai6204 China comes to mind from this sentence (one child policy (which is now two children) and value of males over females).

[@sock2828]

I'm amazed at how right his intuition was about care of premature babies. I mean we've only recently shown that physical touch is really important for the development of an infant's immune system.

[@SylviaRustyFae]

As a bearded lady, i love that you put up a picture of one of us and called them not just the weird, but the wonderful as well.

[@honkhonk3192]

you're not weird. Rock it 💕

[@SylviaRustyFae]

@@honkhonk3192 i own the weird label, heh

[@honkhonk3192]

@@SylviaRustyFae well, good for you haha. Then I'll just call you amazing!

[@BlookbugIV]

@@lovelily8310 exactly. What delusional bullschit.

[@gustavtanciulamadsen2928]

@@lovelily8310 Mans is sucking on a pacifier on his profile picture. The dude is just insane.

[@justkittensbeingkittens5892]

Saying he did this just for money is like saying that animal shelters selling pets is also just for money. We use the money from younger animals that get adopted faster to support the older ones or medically unavailable ones. Yeah, they’re a bit expensive but they are adopted after being fixed and vaccinated for whatever they’re able to be

[@ravendevino6419]

And don't forget overhead costs, like food, heating, lights. As in my shelter, which is a nonprofit.

[@angrydragonslayer]

PETA does say that

[@ravendevino6419]

@@angrydragonslayer Yep they do! And they euthanize the majority of animals they "rescue"

[@k9_kadaver]

@@angrydragonslayer yeah but honestly you really can't trust the word of the vast majority of animal protection groups or services. I mean I'm in Scotland and the SSPCA basically is the law when it comes to animals and yet they repeatedly neglect animals in their care, have killed a snake in a horrific and grotesque way because they misidentified it (froze it cuz believed it was venomous when it wasn't, still wouldn't be acceptable if it was- the snake would be conscious through the entire ordeal), vast majority of staff don't actually know much about the animals they deal with, take animals away when that would be more damaging, re-home animals with severe medical issues or old ass ones on death's doorstep,,, it ain't a fun time lmao.

[@angrydragonslayer]

@@k9_kadaver big charities are basically all rotten

[@davidlancaster6941]

This is really uplifting and disturbing at the same time. Disturbing because no matter how much good the doctor did he was hounded and almost stopped because of ignorance. Uplifting because he prevailed. His methods are admirable and as for the way he treated the nurses it should be repeated. Great graphics and story telling here. Don't know where Thoughty2 found this one. Good job bro! Lvya

[@garyberger9257]

We as humans need to mature. Glad I'm subscribed to Thoughty2, no question.

[@JK-gm6kk]

I don't mean to bring identity politics into this. But it vaguely reminds me of a guy who could have cured cancer, and people still would have hated him regardless. There's plenty of examples looking the other way too. I just can't think of any currently

[@mdj.6179]

And with all the outrage on this public display there was little outcry about cruel medical experiments done on prisoners, minorities and third world populations. Sometimes resembling what the Nazis did to Jews.

[@meganlangreck2488]

Not just ignorance, but a powerful agenda. And a medical establishment with a God Complex.

[@acceptablecasualty5319]

Medical Doctorships at that time wasn't really seperated from the Academic Fields like biology yet. And if you know 19th Centruy Academics, they tended to be mentally and emotionally unstable Aristocrat wannabes. This resulted in a medical profession that was so entirely self-congratulatory and masturbatory in it's culture, that the only way to get innovation accepted by your peers were money and fame.

[@LonksAdventures]

It’s crazy to think that if it wasn’t for this man me and a lot of other premature kids wouldn’t have survived. What an absolute legend

[@Eksevis]

as someone who was prematurely born, I have a bizarre - if entirely reasonable - appreciation for this man.

[@-3-_B_]

Yeah, weird knowing that if it weren't for these men I might not even be alive right now. Very thankful.

[@Montina_Paullin]

This is amazing! My great-aunt Hazel was born right around 1900.. weighing less than 2lbs. Her parents put her in a shoebox & placed her on the open oven door.. so she would be kept consistently warm. She lived to be over 100yrs old! When I was little she showed me her original shoebox & told me the story. She never married, traveled the world, collected dolls from every country & gave piano lessons well into her 90s. I wonder what all other fantastic lives those babies who were saved had..

[@savannahw3440]

What an incredible life story!!

[@mikewazowskiii]

... how do you weigh less than two pounds at birth?

[@Montina_Paullin]

@@mikewazowskiii most commonly premature. It happens all the time.

[@jillybe1873]

Were they farmers? We do that with premature lambs

[@LordCommanderSpaceAlligator]

There is absolutely NO WAY she was kept within 5 FEET of a 1900s stove. Not a chance

[@tysonstrom9934]

As a father of three preemies, this is awesome!! Way ahead of his time and a true gift to countless families. Down to skin on skin and human touch. The babies that get the most do the best. Thanks for this video!! I had no idea about this man and what he did. Been a fan for quite a while and will continue to be. Keep up the good work! 👍🏻

[@TUFTYCAMEL1]

Wow. Just wow. I don't know what to say

[@thursoberwick1948]

It's almost as if he understood babies were children... they need affection even at that age.

[@noidont8149]

wow yea this guy was definately way ahead of his time my own son might posobly not be here rite now if not for his work

[@richtate9327]

I'm a father of a premie and this man is a hero this story melts my heart

[@zackmarkham4240]

I'm a 2-month preemie myself. I had no idea about this guy! It's such a great historical moment, but it's not talked about!

[@nephlimjedi4741]

I myself was born at 31 weeks and 3 days, so I can only be grateful that this man helped in developing the technology that helped me survive after my mother fell ill.

[@EvonneLindiwe]

As a preemie, I am grateful for his thinking and his tenacity. Without his infantorium.. I'd not be here today 🙏🏿

[@infiniteadam7352]

7 thousand babies saved would equal thousands of people today, im sure many of us watching wouldn't be here if not for this Man!

[@meowmur302]

Every 60 seconds a minute passes in Africa

[@trollge6201]

Hmm yes, the floor is made of floor.

[@VaBeachBeach2971]

@@meowmur302 I think they’re trying to say that these 7,000 babies are the ancestors of probably 5X’s that amount today. Meaning a lot more than 7,000 people wouldn’t exist today had they died. It’s crazy to think about really. That’s what they were trying to say.

[@danielawesome36]

@@VaBeachBeach2971 Yeah, the oldest of those babies would have probably died in around 2003. These preemies probably have great-great grandchildren today.

[@marklee9352]

Don’t say many of us it’s not that much but it is a couple hundred thousand.

[@chancehulan123]

This mans intentions were pure, regardless of collegiate qualifications. Amazing video

[@Jhymnbeau]

Let's not forget, though, that he also managed to make at least a few złoty for his efforts. A fine physician and amazing entrepreneur, that Dr. Couney. Having developed techniques that allowed him to personally save over 7000 preemies, I bet _lots_ of people owe their existence to this fine gentleman, in some small way or another. #thanksthoughty2

[@SilentHotdog28]

@@Jhymnbeau 7000 people x however many children, grandchildren and great grandchildren those people had.......we could be looking at something like 80 000 people give or take.

[@crunchybones3165]

coney seems like such a sweet and loving guy. he understand that mental health (not just physical) is also very important for all ages.

[@turrarusgzg]

That moment when a fake doctor saved more lives than an actual doctor.

[@caroljo420]

I'm 69 years old. I started having epileptic seizures when I was 5. At that time, it would've been legal for the state to involuntarily sterilize me, and put me in an institution "for the epileptic and feeble-minded". That's what they were called. Instead, we moved to California, where those laws didn't exist. I wouldn't have been able to have my son, and he's grown to be a man with much to offer the world!

[@Akalim]

I shouldn't laugh, it's just 69 and 420 has grown to be a joking number in my generation. But either way that is absolutely amazing to hear!! I'm sorry to hear about the seizures but I'm glad to know you're doing well with a kid

[@based980]

California truly was a great state, it sucks to see what people have done to is

[@viriamiri]

@@based980 what have people done to california?

[@based980]

@@viriamiri they've ruined it with shitty laws

[@kelpermoon23]

Nice

[@pinkiepie6880]

People think that Nazi Germany was the only place interested in eugenics but it was a leading ideology in most first world countries. This man was really progressive for his time. Doctors could have learnt a thing or two from him. Great video!

[@kiwin7119]

Doctors did learn a few things from him (finally, at the end of his career and near the end of his life, hospitals in the US started using baby incubators).

[@a1rg3ar31]

FDR was a big advocate for it.

[@kyarumomochi5146]

Who tf thinks only ww2 germany did that if anyone even knows that they did

[@alwaysmeepin9609]

@@a1rg3ar31 Literally every politician in the 1930s was an advocate of it. Seriously, the man who created universal healthcare supported it. You’d be hard pressed to find a politician who actually publicly opposed eugenics before WW2.

[@zwenkwiel816]

Is this really eugenics though? Seems more like incompetence or ignorance...

[@OMGSAMCOPSEY]

While his motives might seem suspect to some, I believe he was doing it to spite the idea of Eugenics. Anyone not feeling like the strongest or healthiest person could easily feel that even the weak deserve life and so he set upon his mission to save the weakest humans he could find.

[@drfeelgood98]

Further proof that even through the worst human beings can suffer, there will always be a shred of light, aiming to better the chances of those far more deserving than those born into luck or fortune. This man was a Saint, his actions saved so many in the medical community. I'd be so interested to interview one of his surviving cases, just to solidify the knowledge that there is undeniable good in the world. ♡♡♡♡♡

[@hkchan1339]

If I am too poor to pay for care for my premature child, a doctor who can save my child for free is a godsend. I don’t care if my child is on display. PS: I am a premature child who is alive because the British colony of Hong Kong had free healthcare, spend my first 6 months in a public hospital

[@ninnikins4768]

Is that why your name is HK chan and you have a country ball pfp

[@hkchan1339]

@@ninnikins4768 The name is to conceal my name and I am from HK. Nothing to do with being a premie baby. Countryball is just cool

[@haka-katyt7439]

Imagine having free and easily accessible health care..couldn't be America

[@hotshotroom964]

@@haka-katyt7439 imagine not selling a kidney for a transplant You people trade organs like trading cards

[@yoshikagekira1260]

@@hotshotroom964 tf? how else are we gonna get organs

[@AmishMan777]

Hey, you should check out the story of Ignaz Semmelweis...kind of similar. The first doctor to implement hand washing, and had remarkable success preventing mothers’ deaths during childbirth. But he was ridiculed and rejected by medical industry.

[@AmishMan777]

What I find most intriguing in his case is that in that time, Doctors would go from performing autopsies directly to delivering babies. Ignaz theorizes that they were somehow carrying invisible sickness by touching the bad blood and transferring that sickness to the mothers and babies. He was ridiculed for this idea of invisible sickness, but his work led to the discovery of what we now know as microscopic germs.

[@chickenlover657]

Actually, he was ridiculed for imposing sanitation standards on a class of people who thought themselves next to gods. Not just anyone could be a doctor in those days, mostly people rich or of noble birth, or both. So they did not look kindly on someone who insinuated they could in any way be at fault.

[@AmishMan777]

I’m not sure which part of this is supposed to be contrary to what I already stated. But I will add that there’s much more to his story than just a single class; He wasn’t just ridiculed, he was persecuted, and had to flee multiple times to new countries in order to preserve his own life.

[@chickenlover657]

@@AmishMan777 Why do you automatically think my comment is trying to be contrary to yours? If I was going to be contrary, I would have reminded you there was no such thing as a "medical industry" back in that day.

[@AmishMan777]

Because of the word “Actually...” Generally when a sentence begins with the word “Actually...” it’s a clear sign of a contrarian disposition.

[@HelenaCross]

Without the invention of these weird little “hatchery” incubators, I wouldn’t have survived. I was a 24 week preemie. ☺️ Fascinating history lesson.

[@annasanders8401]

Many, many thanks to you, Dr. Couney! From the mother of a 1 lb 14 oz baby born at 27 weeks, who is now a happy and healthy nine-year-old❤️

[@Nikki_Catnip]

Even though he might not have been a real doctor he got results and even beat out real doctors. People can always say what they want but hindsight is always 20/20. This guy saved vulnerable babies, paid nurses a good living wage, made sure poor parents didn’t have to pay, and stood firm against eugenics. THAT is a hero.

[@lovetobe6118]

I might actually think we should reinstitute this method to cover medical bills for premature babies of middle class and poor families.

[@Emily-ck9ji]

I vaguely remember hearing about this a couple years ago on the radio, so I'm happy to get a refresher. I'm grateful that this man was successful at changing how premature infants were treated. His story was obviously a little dodgy, but you can't deny that what he was doing actually helped. It seems like he genuinely wanted to make a positive change in the lives of these children and their parents.

[@novasludge3484]

Helped humans...the same parasites that are destroying the planet...how helpful lol

[@invisiblemex7930]

@@novasludge3484 wtf

[@daniellassander]

@@novasludge3484 we are also trying to save it from our past errors. We are actively feeding and giving medical assistans to millions of animals every year, saving millions of birds from starvation in winter, treating animals with broken bones and infections by the millions that they cant do themselves. So i would say we are the most benevolent species around even with all our errors. How many animal broken hearts have we helped to mend? How many animals at the brink of death have we saved? How many trees have we planted, how many species hurt by us have we also saved. Reality is far more murky than you realize or are aware of, and we seem to be on the border between a parasite and a symbiote moving towards symbiote more and more every year. The sheep gave up their independence for human carers ten thousand years ago, because we could plan how to feed them so they didnt starve and we protected them from predators all for the low cost of their fur. Imagine that, someone comes and takes your hair and they also feed you and protect you from outside harm, what an amazing deal for the sheep. We helped them give birth, we gave them antibiotics when they were sick, we fed the ones to weak to feed themselves. All for that all encompassing evil profit incentive. That is not at all to say that we are perfect in any regard, but far better than you realize.

[@novasludge3484]

@@daniellassander if you really know how humans are...we kill and abuse FAR more than we "save" and more often than not animals that are in terrible situations, whether it be in the wild or elsewhere, are having these problems stem from a human cause...on top of the absolutely brutal environments that we put other humans in 😉 slavery and permadebt are just to name a couple...but uh, yeah...humans are good 😂

[@Emily-ck9ji]

@@novasludge3484 You must be fun at parties.

[@Danielas.xtreme.makeover]

Just wanna give props to people like my mother, who takes care of premature babies (and other babies born with potential life threatening illnesses. She’s a respiratory therapist who works exclusively in the NICU (neoneonatal intensive care unit). She attends “high-risk” deliveries where babies are likely to need medical care after birth-such as premature babies. Respiratory therapists, nurses, doctors, everyone involved with the care of these babies work extremely hard, long hours-she’s worked 12 hour shifts, 3-5 days per week depending on need, for almost 30 years and working that kind of shift then attempting to go about her days on a normal sleep schedule took a lot out of her- they’re all actually amazing people who save lives. No matter the problems and differences between my mother and I over the years, I’ve always recognized that she’s a hero who literally saves lives of the most vulnerable humans on Earth.

[@yushisaki]

I was born 3 months prematurely, and I have to say that this acually almost brought me to tears. This man was an angel, I don't care if he wasn't ''a real doctor'', he was one in my eyes.

[@payodomingo6789]

Give that man a nobel prize for saving thounsands of premature childern as i was born 26 weeks and was held in nicu until i was healthy enough to go back to my mother ( born in 5 of november 2005 ) give that man a medal as he was indeed a pioneer

[@daphainereduban9251]

we have the same birthday but I'm 2002 baby😂

[@mohammedkhresat3798]

26 weeks is kinda hard to believe

[@payodomingo6789]

@@mohammedkhresat3798 trust me i kinda dont belive it iether meself but i was indeed born like that plus i was born early because i was hanging myself before even birth

[@Cosmiccoffeecup]

We have the same birthday. 1985

[@gandalflotr2898]

Forgot noble prize give him a musical

[@jackdurden466]

I would bet all I have, that the only reason any other doctors gave him such hell, is because they didn’t think of it first, and he got all the credit, (haters, if you will) And aside from that he saved so many lives, and not because of the anyones fault, It’s, if I’m not mistaken, no one’s fault. I give him praise and credit for his work, and especially for not charging the parents a cent. You’d be nearly 100% unable to find someone like that today. The phrase “They just don’t make them like they used to.” is applicable to anything. Even people.

[@mdj.6179]

I like the Shriner's and St. Jude's hospitals...

[@randomname8220]

I sort of understand what you mean, but with this grammar you are all over the place making me a bit confused. Althought the stuff that you said that I understand I agree with.

[@oliviaocasain9980]

Other doctors didn't really give him a hard time though... it was the non-doctors that did. In fact actual doctors supported his work.

[@jackdurden466]

@@randomname8220 so I guess I meant at the time that the other docs were essentially “haters”, and the babies being born prematurely clearly was not really anyones fault, I honestly don’t know what I meant by “give him too marks for his works” that had to be spellchecker, sorry. Just praising him. And then using the old adage about “they just don’t make them like they used to” and how it not only applies to cars, tech, and general items. But also to people who have morals that have completely been abandoned through the years. I guess that’s the gist. When I wrote this it was immediately after listening, and I listen and comment to multi vids every day, makes it tough to rewind and recall the storyline. Sorry! 😢

[@jackdurden466]

@@randomname8220 ok, I tried to rewrite it clearer. Maybe this’ll help.

[@mariavitoriaassuncao8701]

I was born premature and stayed on the incubator for 2 weeks before going home. Had to take baby formula and had frequent asthma related issues until i was 10. Crazy to think i wouldn’t even be here if this old mindset had prevailed. Bless that man.

[@m0t0g0th]

One line really stands out; the bit at 05:30 about a relaxed working environment, decreased stress, making the nurses feel and work better. That alone is mind-blowing and should be applied frikken EVERYWHERE.

[@jstone247]

Remarkable. A fair ground hustling capitalist actually did humanitarian work for vulnerable people. Today, in maternity wards, premature babies are more likely to survive by laying naked or skin-to-skin as the major therapy (as well as breastfeeding)in order for premmies to survive. Human contact is essential to human survival.

[@garyberger9257]

There was a time before we knew this, and babies died right in front of our eyes. That must've been terrible.

[@mdj.6179]

Even Karl Marx pointed out that Capitalism has vastly advanced many things motivated on profit. Our economic system is not inherintly evil. He found a way to make money while fixing a problem. He was intelligent enough to know replicating his positive results was his meal ticket. He probably slept very well...

[@SilentHotdog28]

@@mdj.6179 But he wasn't doing it for a big payday, sure he might have made money enough to have a comfortable life, but he could have charged parents, become filthy rich, marketed it and gained publicity becoming world famous.....But he didn't, he wanted to help families and save lives, which he did, plus he even cared for the nurses whom he employed and paid them a generous wage. We don't see that much these days, this man was a true hero and gentleman. Who cares that he wasn't a qualified Doctor (well at the very least it couldn't be proven) He and his team saved more lives than some doctors ever will.

[@NoFutureStartsToday]

If I remember right (I heard this story at least 15 years ago) there once was a king in the 13th or 14th century who wanted to know, which language a person speaks when nobody ever talks to them. He had a handful of babies nobody was allowed to talk to or cuddle with to do this "experiment". All of the kids died before they spoke their first words. He didn't find out what language they would talk but this was the first time people realized babies need more than food, water, being washed and changed.

[@mdj.6179]

@@SilentHotdog28 I am just pointing out that it really isn't amazing that a fairground hustling capitalist is not inherently a bad guy. People make judgements about people's ethics more by stereotypes than observation...

[@simonrodriguez4685]

Anyone who fights the Eugenecists -Nazis- with more than words, deserves outmost respect. On top of that saving thousands of lives? Why has Dr. Couney never been awarded the recognition he deserves?!?! Another excellent vid!

[@JamesLaserpimpWalsh]

Everyone in this country has a relative who was killed or maimed fighting the na zis. We fought them for two long years before anyone else got the courage to help us. You wouldn't have thought it the way people are accusing each other of actually being one . I don't think people, especially Americans, understand that fact.

[@gerrilea1]

The NAZI'S got their ideas from the Americans and their Eugenicist movement.

[@jackdurden466]

That Dr deserves a Nobel.

[@marsovac]

Eugenics was born in the US, the Nazi simply went on with it. Actually I would argue that it was born in the animal kingdom, and is just an instinct that people have inherited and some went through during evolution. Many species of animals leave their weaklings to die in order to give more care for the healthy. It makes sense in a resource constrained environment. Better 1 alive than two dead. And though generations the species improves. Survival of the fittest in action. In our human world that does not exists any more. It is survival of the wealthiest.

[@pbonfanti]

@@gerrilea1 This is something people never care to remember.

[@-kove-4446]

What a legend he saved so many children, didn't charge the parents and he treated nurses with respect and care.

[@virginiawiles5373]

If this was open for 40 years, I’d love to see what stories we could find on the babies, parents, and nurses who actually were a part of the Infantorium. Also, glad he mentioned eugenics which came in the form of abortion too. Interesting that mr. fake doctor was trying to save premies while others were set on killing them 😭

[@hagamapama]

Fake degree, real compassion. It's often the compassion that matters more in the end.

[@1985banks1]

I'm glad he did what he did. Sometimes you don't need a degree to do a job, some people are just born with the knowledge. He knew babies better than the Dr's or parents at the time. So many of us wouldn't be here if it was not for this man.

[@TheMustangBuilders]

I owe this man so much. Our third was born premature. He spent a month in the NICU. And now he’s a happy 20lb 10 month old with no lasting effects. He was 5lb 5oz tiny thing when he was born and had to resuscitated after an emergency delivery.

[@brittyvegas9482]

I am very thankful for all the people who contributed to the "baby display". With both of my pregnancies i had severe Pre-eclampsia and both my babies were born prematurely and both spent time in the N.I.C.U.. My son was 2lbs and my daughter was 4lbs and it is scary to see a baby so tiny with tubes and monitors all over their little bodies. Very grateful 🙏

[@carbon_no6]

Hearing that someone saves others gives me goosebumps! That good deed!

[@crimsonffire]

So many of my family and friends have had to go into incubators or their children. We where all premis and my brother was a little 4pound baby spent nearly two months in a incubator , he is the strongest of us all physically and best immune. Never realised how small a 4pound baby looked till my niece was born. Like you could hold then in one hand it's crazy. Those nurses deserve recognition for what they did as well as coney they saved countless lives. Even to this day. The fact he never charged the parents shows he was doing it for the right reasons.

[@rockhoggaming]

yeah its seriously amazing of him to not charge the parents, especially during the great depression. that seriously amazing of him.

[@crimsonffire]

@@rockhoggaming really was, a lot of those parents couldn't of afforded it. So they not only had their child survive but didn't have to worry about how to afford to pay for their babies care.. he was a good man . He might not have been convention,but he saved so many lives and looked after the nurses , the babies and families.

[@rockhoggaming]

@@crimsonffire i can only imagine just how happy the parents were.. in a time where almost all babies born prematurely died and people thought they shouldn't survive so they don't spread their "bad genes" and "weaken humanity".. these people desperately wanted their children to survive and this man delivered (no pun intended) and didn't charge them a cent. EVEN DURING THE GREAT DEPRESSION!

[@crimsonffire]

@@rockhoggaming very well put. Yeah eugenics was a really messed up ideology.

[@crisptomato9495]

And incubators don’t even stop at preemies, they can be used to help newborns with so many different problems. I was a hearty 8 lbs 1 oz when I was born but my lungs were full of fluid and being placed in an incubator helped me breathe for those first few hours. They are a modern medical godsend.

[@jswong8200]

As a preemie myself, I salute this hero and his awesome work that ensured people like me (and my twin) got to survive and live full, healthy lives

[@undergravitydownforce714]

it honestly seems like having officially studied medicine at the time was unimportant considering the real problem was dealing with proffesional people who litterally were ok watching babies die without giving any help he wasnt sketchy, he had the health and care of another human being as a top priority! and didnt make his staff suffer!

[@jessicawellne2771]

As a mother of a boy born at 24 weeks, almost 3 years ago, I must say I am incredably grateful to this man.

[@JusticeBackstrom]

"Sir, do you realize your actions put you at serious risk of having your quack license revoked, and being outcast into the medical professional community?" -Some Judge probably.

[@SangoProductions213]

Elitism and fearmongering is always used to to keep "uncouth" ideas out of the mainstream. You know. Like how it used to be common practice to not wash one's hands while cutting someone open with a blade caked in the blood of previous patients, and surgeons who tried to advocate for hygiene were castigated from the medical community.

[@rautamiekka]

Yeah, it was a real toxic time to be a doc with an open mind. "You know nothing" is a prime material to prove you're a bad person when you're suggested to improve the survivability of your patients.

[@SangoProductions213]

@@rautamiekka Still remains that way, for literally anyone who doesn't push the current orthodoxy.

[@rautamiekka]

@@SangoProductions213 I know that in other contexts.

[@thursoberwick1948]

@@rautamiekka It still is a toxic time to have an open mind. Don't you dare question anything which is happening right now.

[@rautamiekka]

@@thursoberwick1948 Too right.

[@UltimateBread48]

This dude was awesome. Not even a real doctor doing MORE than real doctors

[@hagamapama]

Someone should have given him an honorary doctorate. Not even kidding, if your medical work saves thousands of infant lives some institution of higher learning should have picked up that man's work and given him the degree he already proved he deserves.

[@sadiemaefae]

as someone who lives in Coney Island this is so cool, I've had no idea anything like this went on here cuz it's kind of derelict nowadays

[@Cuatthedoe]

bruh 2 months ago this man had 2.9 mil subs and now he has 4.14. congrats man glad to see a great youtuber like this getting bigger

[@chickenlover657]

He still has few views compared to subs. Maybe because he blunders as much as he gives good info?

[@frey5218]

@@chickenlover657 KZbinrs having less views than their sub count is a pretty normal thing in KZbin. Dont know what you're trying to say there.

[@Jgaldragon]

My niece was born 2 months premature and was only 4 lbs at birth. She had to be put in the NICU for over a month before she could come home. Now she is a year old and learning to walk. She's smart, healthy, very social and the most beautiful baby in the world! I am so grateful to the people who supported such care and didn't give into pressure when the practice wasn't 'popular'.

[@RackiePromotions]

Your content is so addicting. It's so well narrated and made. Thank you for what you do.

[@randomvintagefilm273]

Very interesting history! Thank you for working on stories not often heard about!

[@dingusmcguffin4827]

I was a premature baby! It's hard to hear that I owe my life to these men! I was 6 weeks premature! I'm over 40 and still learning something new everyday!

[@kenyhalfpeny1097]

He is definitely an absolute legend the fact that he kept the price at 0 even at the Great Depression makes him a legend

[@OsbornIOW]

I love these looks into history. Strange stories regular history teaching either don't know or don't bother to teach ... Keep up the great work you do "Thoughty2.

[@vondabarela8994]

Excellent episode! What an extraordinary man. I’ve got one son and one grandchild who survived premature delivery thanks to his innovations and tenacity. ❤️

[@meganmccaffrey5066]

As a mother of two, non-multiple preemies, I had never heard this and am so glad I did. Even in my lifetime (I am under 40), many preemies did not have a great chance for survival. This is the last day of #prematurityawarenessmonth and I love inspirational stories like this. Nurses saved our babies and used a lot of the same techniques used in this video. Thanks for making it!

[@pauljermyn5909]

One of the many many reasons it annoys me when people say "trust the science" , many of our best discoveries have been ridiculed by mainstream science and were contrary to the scientific dogma of the time, also the corruption of scientists has been exposed countless times, smoking, cannabis etc.

[@Jgaldragon]

In a since the use on an incubator on infants WAS based on science. A man saw how an artificial incubator hatched eggs by imitating the warmth of a nest and applied it to humans. Observe, hypothesize, test, repeat.

[@donovan6320]

Trust SCIENCE, not SCIENTISTS, major difference. The incubator was based on science.

[@mudder7952]

Both of y'all should work on your reading comprehension, Paul never once stated the method used was not science, or that science was bad. It's clear by his use of quotation marks and additional text that it's the blind following of ignorant people, kinda like you two, that annoys him. "Trust the science" is a phrase parroted by people that most likely have never read the studies for themselves, they take the word of some fallible scientist, or doctor, not that these people are not educated, but they are people, and people get things wrong, frequently. The assumption that it's impossible, or even improbable, for contemporary people, regardless of the field, to be incorrect is hubris at best.

[@donovan6320]

@@mudder7952 Exactly why a distinction needs to be made. The scientists being the person. Trust the scientific method and the published papers surrounding the claims. (Assuming that they are created and backed by a trustworthy source). Trust the science, not the scientist. That is exactly what I mean. Use your own deductive reasoning and the scientific method, as well as the published papers in question to inform your decisions. The issue with this however is that not everyone can sit here and understand and complex phenomena, so they have someone tone it down who may or may not know what they are talking about, they mess up, make more wrong assesments/assumptions again, etc. Hence you do not trust the scientist, you trust the science. You trust and take into account the work that created the remark, understanding it's flaws and merits and make your own decision.

[@mudder7952]

@@donovan6320 I don't disagree with your point there at all, my point was nothing in the o.p.'s post really indicated he was against the scientific method, or science. Otherwise kinda seems like we're on the same page. My only disagreement would be on the amount of people that lack the mental capacity to do thier own research, at least in this one area I'm semi-optimastic in regards to humanity, I think most people are just lazy. What I personally do, if I'm researching something and I don't understand a term, is to grab a dictionary, or use the internet honestly, but I go to a dictionary site like Websters or Britannica. That has been enough for me, personally, but there are also plenty of resources online, it's really easy to get in touch with any professional and research thier creditionals nowadays, Qoura for example, on the rare occasion something can't be discerned with a dictionary. It's also not hard in my opinion to make an effort to do the opposite research, take the covid vaccine for example, plenty of sources that are pro for it, less that are against it. I try to look at both sides and apply the same effort, to get out of my echo chamber. Confirmation bias is a real phenomenon, and ignorance is plentiful on both sides. Even the term vaccine is controversial, because it's not a traditional vaccine, there is no coronavirus present in the shot, it's mrna. The definition of a vaccine was updated recently to include mrna editing I suppose you could call it. I have observed pro vaccine people that had no idea how the vaccine was developed, nor any idea of how it works, and they immediately dismiss and deride anti vaxxers. Flip side you also have some anti vaxxers that think micro chips are being included in the shot. Dr. Fauci for example, is also controversial, as is the effectiveness of the cloth masks utilized by the general public. It's not my intent to argue for either side, just to reinforce what you pretty much stated. You can't really debate your side of things efficiently if one is ignorant of the oppositions side. I mean it is possible, but to me it's not as complete.

[@dahliarose6986]

I had to watch this because my son was 1 month premature and is very healthy today and growing strong as a 5 month old. And he is as happy as any other baby. It was all thanks to his care in the hospital that he is healthy today.

[@arthurw8054]

One of your best, most moving presentations ever. Thank you.

[@tomtom3781]

Thoughy: talks about something interesting Me: omg he has a beard now

[@garyberger9257]

Thank you for that laugh. I needed that.

[@billzusner4873]

I typically have heard your stories before or at least heard of them. This one was brand new to me. Excellent story.

[@clairemacauliffecarroll263]

The power of one's love for the vulnerable. Cooney is a God-sent!!! My partner's cousin has Down's Syndrome and was born at 7 months and was only the size of a 500ml bottle. He was also born by C section when they discovered there was no fluid around him. He was in neonatal for a long time with holes in his heart. But now he is a thriving 15 year old, very healthy, strong and much loved.

[@draconiusultamius]

On behalf of all med students, we stan this man. He may not have been a qualified doctor, but he earns a honourable degree for his contributions to medicine. He may have been a bit of a weirdo, but he saved lives and his ethics were super progressive for the time. What a great guy!

[@orangesweetness]

Wow, this is so interesting! I never knew this. I was born 3 months premature, at 2lbs. It was touch and go for a long time. I'm grateful he didn't back down or waiver in his conviction! I'm sure his advancements saved my own life

[@therealuncleowen2588]

I was born at 6.5 months and spent two weeks in an incubator. This man's work saved my life.

[@deborahbarry8250]

I love the way you tell the less known stories of History. Your sense of humor definitely A+! The gentleman may not have been a "doctor" but he certainly was an Angel of Healing

[@deborahbarry9421]

@James Hama hello back to you, KZbin friend

[@maggiem6209]

I was 11 weeks early. I was a little less than two pounds when I was born. I'm now 24, outgrown my asthma, am attending a great school and have no physical or mental issues at all. To think that it is because of people like Couney that I got to live my life, brings a tear to my eye.

[@TheRyaniscoolio]

Wow I was premature 1 lb 10z. Pretty crazy the odds are so up now a day's compared to even the 90s.

[@ChocolateStrawberryL]

I think even though he may not been a doctor, and placed the building in the wrong place, he had a great idea. I feel like this mentality still needs to stay in healthcare.

[@Jgaldragon]

Ideally it wasn't but it was in the flow of spectator traffic and those tours did pay the bills.

[@chickenlover657]

Actually, he placed the building in the perfect place. Strategical genius.

[@surgeonsergio6839]

Building at the wrong place? The dude was able to fund his healthcare because of it! I personally think the man's a great marketing genius.

[@pauljerome01]

He did make it at the right place, thats how he managed to fund the whole operation.

[@eejay6191]

I think you didn't watch the whole video. The sevice is 100% free, he fund it by doing tours of the babies

[@anastasiasaratlic7019]

this brought me to tears.. some people truly are extraordinary ❤️

[@casiopistachio1107]

I love hearing about these little know tales and origin stories, I'm amazed at how this man put in to practice his vison by utilising the curiosity of ordinary people to fund such a revolutionary system. Rarely do you every see a 'everyone is a winner' scenario, the viewers were entertained with his exhibition, the parents had free healthcare, the baby received the best healthcare available by far and he could use the profits to make his invention and process known to the world. Simply wonderful, pure genius.

[@phantomkrel2374]

A very motivational video. A guy who had enough common sense to than put together a experiment to simulate environment. Goes to show you aren’t limited by your education so long as you can achieve a desirable result. He had some good ideas and brought free care to many that couldn’t afford it, true genus.

[@zebraskin]

Back in ye ol' days in the nordic lands I believe it was they use to wrap babies in rye dough and put them in a warm (not hot) oven for a while which also kinda did the samething. Kinda crazy he didn't know about this but did roughly the same thing hundreds of years apart.

[@novaeblaid]

Omg I used to watch you so long ago didn't even realize this was your channel and as soon as I heard your voice omlll the nostalgia

[@LilAnnThrax]

I thank the universe for these people. My baby was 2.5lbs when she was born at 29 weeks. She is healthy and happy today.

[@tibimarin]

finding a way to make profit off your patients without charging them is genius, this guy was way ahead of his time.

[@Joker-hw5ji]

This brought a smile to my face and is a great start to my day, thank you for all the work you do, and the facts you bring to the table Thoughty2 😊 and thank the Doctor for saving lives

[@senpaimami2496]

This man saved my life. I was a twin, born a 1lb baby. My twin sister was 1lb and 15 ounces. We were so tiny and fragile, doctors thought I wouldn't make it since I had problems with my liver among all the other complications of being so tiny. After months of being cared for in an incubator and with the care of nurses, I was able to come home. My sister however, didn't make it due to complications with her liver soon after I was able to come home. 😔 Premature babies are so fragile... but this man gave them all a fighting chance! Thank you, Dr. Martin Couney. You saved so many lives. ❤

[@zuwu1279]

I was a premature baby, 5 months and a half to be exact. Doctors told my mom I would not survive or have a disability, and here I am! 21 and counting all healthy!

[@cupcakesandcameos]

This is my favorite video you've ever done. Being a preemie mom I now know the man behind the technology I can thank for saving my baby's life. 💗💗💗

[@Caustic-]

This man has the great mustache on KZbin.

[@alphahybridBR]

Facts😂😂😂

[@garyberger9257]

I've seen none better.

[@eastwind6820]

No, Bushcraft Bear has the greatest mustache on KZbin!

[@AWindy94]

As the mother of a prematurely born child (28 weeks), that man deserves an honorary doctorate. What an amazing human being. Give him the highest award a citizen can get, please.

[@0000moz]

Dr Couney, thank goodness you took this very big gamble because if you hadn’t I wouldn’t be here. So thank you, even if it was a bit unconventional and maybe not the best place for it but you got your point across and you saved many then and every premature babies life that has been saved since then is attributed to you. 😀