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Urgot used to have a very unorthodox playstyle as one of the first true spellcaster marksmen in League of Legends. But due to a mountain of gameplay flaws and his comedic appearance more people knew him as a fat crab boy instead of the monstrous terror that he is. His full visual gameplay update would change that, transforming him to a terrifying man turned machine. Let's find out more with Urgot's Rework: A Retrospective.
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@VarsVerum
@VarsVerum 2 жыл бұрын
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@frojanty
@frojanty 2 жыл бұрын
aight vars im annoyed are you saying galio was LIKED rework? galio mains QUIT over it i refuse to see him in games sometimes its not galio
@gkarak1996
@gkarak1996 2 жыл бұрын
You were wrong about poppy. Poppy maintained her whole old kit almost.her w passive and e are basically the same. Her q is still a heavy damage dealer but now turned aoe plus a slow in it. Her r in a sense does the same job as you can issolate enemies by removing the threat of their allies.
@jaotrx7163
@jaotrx7163 2 жыл бұрын
@@gkarak1996 old r poppy was his main things now isnt compare
@oneofthe12sionmains70
@oneofthe12sionmains70 2 жыл бұрын
Vars can only prolong his real Sion video for so long. He's running out of WNOP champs. He ended perfectly designed. The rework pool is dwindling. Our time nears. Edit: We have the twelve all together. The ring of power can be formed. If we all vote on the Vars community poll, our will shall be enacted. You know what to do, my friends.
@malakimphoros2164
@malakimphoros2164 2 жыл бұрын
What happens if all 12 Sion mains gather in one place? Will the Sioning begin?
@lukazivkovic4944
@lukazivkovic4944 2 жыл бұрын
@@malakimphoros2164 Here we are
@kamikazelemming1552
@kamikazelemming1552 2 жыл бұрын
@@malakimphoros2164 I name myself the third Sion main in this comment thread. We await the arrival of the remaining nine.
@AoIndigo
@AoIndigo 2 жыл бұрын
@@kamikazelemming1552 and the fourth has arrived
@kreeperkiller4423
@kreeperkiller4423 2 жыл бұрын
fifth sion main is here. vars can't stall the sion vid forever
@roastingnerd8545
@roastingnerd8545 2 жыл бұрын
Unrelated note: I REALLY think they can implement a star guardian Urgot, like he's not cutesy and anything, he's a star guardian MAFIA BOSS with a fedora that has star card, a scar from a distant battle from Zoe (he's the sole survivor of that conflict besides Zoe herself by using an elixir or something of that calibre) and losing his legs from that battle. He met the crew afterwards maybe and had a pajama guardian skin.
@alex2005z
@alex2005z 2 жыл бұрын
If fiddle can be in the lore so can Urgot
@pipsapossu1699
@pipsapossu1699 2 жыл бұрын
yea and urgots ult would be a 6 feet pink dildo
@GaebolIg
@GaebolIg 2 жыл бұрын
I think a entire cast of Veteran Star Guardians would be actually nice. Like a Star Guardian Mordekaiser, who is actually a kid but needs to stay inside the armor to protect himself but nobody knows that so he acts all edgy. Camille, being another veteran who had to replace most of her body parts due to injuries. A lot of champions could fit really well im a theme like this.
@kailet1997
@kailet1997 2 жыл бұрын
Everything is possible. They just dont want to spend money and time on it lol
@ezed8748
@ezed8748 2 жыл бұрын
i want star guardian urgot to be a old star guardian with ptsd it would be awesome
@X33Ultras0und
@X33Ultras0und 2 жыл бұрын
Vars didn't mention W targets the closest unit, however that hitting Q makes W lock on to the target hit even if there are other units closer. Like how acid rain allowed his ability to become point and click, his current Q allows his W to auto-aim at the champion hit.
@nox22119
@nox22119 2 жыл бұрын
All his skills enabled his W to auto aim lock at the champion meaning he no longer relies on just hitting a single skillshot to be able to deal a bulk of his damage this enabled him to be more consistent as well.
@Bowblax2
@Bowblax2 2 жыл бұрын
im so torn on the Urgot rework because I mained old Urgot and miss his kit a lot but I still really enjoy playing new urgot for different reasons. i wish both could exist at the same time lol
@MenwithHill
@MenwithHill 2 жыл бұрын
Same. Old Urgot was my main for two seasons. He wasn't the healthiest but he played incredibly unique.
@Dsey249
@Dsey249 2 жыл бұрын
Dam u r a league enjoyer what?
@untoldpaine
@untoldpaine 2 жыл бұрын
i wish theyd give him a skin that looks like his old style
@MenwithHill
@MenwithHill 2 жыл бұрын
@@untoldpaine Yeah, people rag on it for looking gross and ugly, but that was the point. His lore was that he captured Jarvan, got ambushed by Garen and cut in two, yet he didn't die. Zaun doctors tried to put him back together and did a bit of a messy job, and now he looks like a big mass of flesh and yet he keeps on. The dude is in constant pain but he just won't die.
@d4s0n282
@d4s0n282 Жыл бұрын
@@MenwithHill wait what? holy fuck, garen was a lot more nasty back in his lore huh, now days he is a total pretty boi
@ENDERSTYLE74
@ENDERSTYLE74 2 жыл бұрын
I used to LOVE old urgot, it was my pocket pick mid, no one knew how he worked so I had my biggest successes with him, I could only play him for 3 weeks and then he got reworded. Little did I know, it would happen again and again, for instance, I love fizz’s non-reverted W the one you had to recast after the bleeding bar was full, I’ m sad that they both changed when I loved them..
@belivuk2526
@belivuk2526 2 жыл бұрын
I actually loved loved old urgot as a support. Mark an enemy and then reduce his everything while your adc hits him and you poke until they run out of range and lose on an entire wave. After you get ult, any time you see an enemy engage you someone can stun enemy carries, just ult them and they die. Also good for baiting under you own turret when they try to hit it with their last 3 minions. Perfect timing lets you lock them under your turret for an easy kill. Add to that that no one expected your damage nor that you can weaken them so much because no one knew his kit. And the best part, I got giant enemy crabgot for free so I could lay waste with style
@thosebloodybadgers8499
@thosebloodybadgers8499 2 жыл бұрын
@@belivuk2526 Old Urgot could, honestly, go anywhere. ADC? Very, very risky, but super fun with an engage support. Tilts the enemy with constant barrages of missiles if they dare approach the minion wave in any capacity. Support? You said it - good engage, good poke, surprising utility. Top? And they think ranged top is bad now! Untouchable peel and unrivaled range. Mid? Rough, but pretty durable. Almost impossible to duel once he gets his claws in. Jungle? Surprisingly scary ganks, double so with the ult, but the clear did suck. God, I still miss that horrid abomination. Everything from his gameplay to his theme was so unique! Especially nowadays, when straight ugliness and pity as a part of a champion's thematic and visual identity just isn't allowed. A champion has to be badass, cool, attractive, cute or funny. Not to say that old League used to have better designs and stories, God no, but that's weirdly one area where the diversity and freedom of exploration ends in modern League.
@SrGundisalvus
@SrGundisalvus 2 жыл бұрын
@@thosebloodybadgers8499 yes, you said exactly how I feel about it too, I really miss the old horrifying concepts of the champions of that era, I loved the visual thematic and dialogues of old urgot so much
@Cheesypretzl
@Cheesypretzl 2 жыл бұрын
Old Urgot with thunder lords was amazing mid, build muramana first for damage and haste, hit 3 empowered Q’s and poke the enemy straight out of lane
@1kman23
@1kman23 2 жыл бұрын
Old urgot was my pocket counter pick to zed. They only need to ult you under tower once to know to never do it again
@MeTobTob
@MeTobTob 2 жыл бұрын
Graves and Nidalee are also reworks that completely changed the roles they were designed for with their reworks So Urgot isn't alone on that front
@skyeblu3178
@skyeblu3178 2 жыл бұрын
Same with Poppy and Sion: Poppy was a weird auto-based hypercarry and Sion was either a burst mage or an AD lifesteal raidboss
@skylex157
@skylex157 2 жыл бұрын
graves was designed to be an ADC still, they just didn't considered that having his autos be stopped by minions would be as much of a detriment as it was, graves always liked to be right in the opponent's face, it's just that now it is more of a neccesity to the point where it is easier to just use him jungle
@TheAzorg
@TheAzorg 2 жыл бұрын
@@skylex157 i recently played graves with lethal tempo on botlane and it's very fun with proper support. Not the best pick ever but definitely the most fun experience;)
@sortilien2099
@sortilien2099 2 жыл бұрын
honestly as an average player (silver) graves adc still works.
@duckymomo7935
@duckymomo7935 2 жыл бұрын
Nidalee pre reworking made no sense She was just a spear champ (now it’s zoe) and never had a reason to cougar form But when she can dash better and encourage cougar for now her kit makes sense
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't touch on this in the video but I think another big flaw in Urgot's old kit was that it was very passive. Ideally Urgot would sit back spamming long range Qs at the enemy until the enemy was forced to make a move, which urgot would then punish by being unreasonably scrappy for an artillery character. (Even without landing the acid grenade Urgot's Q was able to out-poke most champions. Sure it got way better when you landed the acid, but his neutral didn't rely on it as much as the video suggests) You didn't want to use the acid bomb unless you can confirm a hit, which means you had to be close, you wanted to have the shield in case you get dove, and your ultimate was probably one of the best "fuck that play you want to make" abilities in the game. You couldn't really make plays with Urgot, only anti-plays. (Also I will never forget M5's 1v2 solo bot lane Urgot. It's easily the proudest moment for that champion, flexing not only his strength as a character but also completely casting aside the rigid metagame of League of Legends, even back then... IEM Hanover M5 vs Dignitas Game 1 for anyone whose interested.)
@gabrieljoseozanan6989
@gabrieljoseozanan6989 2 жыл бұрын
Old Urgot could gattling gun his Q in Urf mode as well!
@6ofrozes657
@6ofrozes657 2 жыл бұрын
Imo urgot is more terrifying as a character than fiddle even in game getting tagged and dragged by the meat grinder is cruel
@Falkeshy
@Falkeshy 2 жыл бұрын
Urgot is such a good champion right now. If you perform bad -> he feels very weak If you perform good -> he feels like a death mashine, born for battle and revived and rebuild just to battle more and bring everyone down in big fights. He truly feels like a Juggernaut. Aatrox heals feel cheap and Tahm tankiness + base dmg feel wrong. Darius can simply run you down once he gets a little ahead. But Urgot always feels fair. I really like facing urgot. He does not have "cheese" but just a very solid kit. Its fun to play against him.
@untoldpaine
@untoldpaine 2 жыл бұрын
All of what you said are why i left top and have been destroying mid and support with him lol
@coffee0093
@coffee0093 2 жыл бұрын
I miss old urgot, he was one of the few adcs I was actually able to play without running it
@pedrohenrique-db3xd
@pedrohenrique-db3xd 2 жыл бұрын
Old urgot on URF was one of the most broken things I've ever seen.
@odg1190
@odg1190 6 ай бұрын
Urgot Yorick was the meme combo
@xuanbachtrinh6578
@xuanbachtrinh6578 2 жыл бұрын
Just sad that he has a thing for camille legs: 1000 modified true dmg Auto reset Mv speed boost 20 mana 4s cooldown Cho'gath ult I like it too, but i also fkin hate this sht Mean while Machine gun leg goes bbbbbbbbbbbbb
@sochunho7984
@sochunho7984 2 жыл бұрын
i do think urgot gameplay is worth saving in some part , the spell pase sniper adc is cool idea to begin with ,but i do think some of his kit is kind of wired (his R key),but still good job on the video love 2 see more
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 2 жыл бұрын
The ultimate kinda makes perfect sense on him if you look at his kit as a whole. He's an anti-carry, really good at punishing people for trying to make plays (What with his acid grenade being instant at close range and a strong shield to punish you for forcing the issue on him), and the switch is honestly one of the biggest "Fuck that play you were trying to make" moves possible, both giving your team time to react to whoever was making said play and also setting them up to be destroyed the second the swap happens.
@Arob4343
@Arob4343 2 жыл бұрын
You’re making Oldgot sound op. And maaaaannnnnnn do I miss him. I only started playing him when his rework was on the way (I was super new to the game). I immediately picked up jungling with him and loved it. Easy ganks and homing missiles, funnn
@akane.sakurada
@akane.sakurada 2 жыл бұрын
I miss the gameplay of the old Urgot, man. I had a lot of fun at the end of games where I would swap one of the enemies into the fountain to kill them. We really need another very slow but hard hitting artillery ADC.
@Nikolai0169
@Nikolai0169 2 жыл бұрын
Old Urgot used to be my personal midlane pocket pick against assassins. Something you neglected to mention was that his lock on worked through enemy stealth, serving as a point and click Q even on invisible enemies. Combine that with his ad reduction and you could give assassins a really hard time. You also always built a black cleaver early, giving you some aditional tankiness to make an assassins job that much harder. And if you had teammates nearby while an assassin was attempting to kill you or one of your teammates, you could point and click lockdown that enemy with your ult, almost guaranteeing a kill.
@d4s0n282
@d4s0n282 Жыл бұрын
new urgot still very good into assassins, its absurdly hard for assassins to kill urgot with all his dmg and e
@sakutaro3musik486
@sakutaro3musik486 2 жыл бұрын
i loved old urgot and miss him :( his ult was so crazy, hope they bring it back on someone else in a similar form, but I guess nowadays the ult wouldn´t only swap places but also give shields, ms, stun everyone arround him and give 100% bonus lifesteal or some stupid shit, so I don´t know if I really want it ^^´ but new champs are coming anyway then atleast bring this fun ability back
@ediro
@ediro 2 жыл бұрын
Yes sir my boy urgot finally got the love he deserved
@knightedslayer4795
@knightedslayer4795 2 жыл бұрын
He still is the red lobster of league of legends to me
@Lazycandle
@Lazycandle 2 жыл бұрын
near the end of the old versions life i played him top marumana into tank his old passive and his ult was the only way this was sorta good a 15% damage reduction to any target that you auto or Q was kind op
@theRobson0908
@theRobson0908 2 жыл бұрын
Especially against yasuo with tabi rush
@SrGundisalvus
@SrGundisalvus 2 жыл бұрын
i was an old urgot main and the rework was the final reason for me to stop playing league for 3 years... don't get me wrong current urgot is really good, but it's just not the same champion, different visuals, design, gameplay, dialogues, as cool as he is right now he no longer is the creepy and ugly monster he was for me, and the same happened to me with my other favorite old champs like Sion, Swain, Poppy and Maokai, they are no longer in the game sadly... Honestly I really wished that so many more reworks went for the Fiddlesticks/Phanteon/Warwick approach
@VELVETPERSON
@VELVETPERSON 6 ай бұрын
Urgot was a weird copycat of Vengeful Spirit from Dota. She is a marksman with an armor reduction spell and her ultimate exactly the same
@alihorda
@alihorda 2 жыл бұрын
even tho the new urgot is better. I miss the old one :/
@IYPITWL
@IYPITWL 2 жыл бұрын
I made the most amazing outplay with old Urgot ult that I can still see in my mind. I was getting dove by 4 enemies under a turret and walked away after killing 2 of them Smilers.
@carlosbeltran804
@carlosbeltran804 2 жыл бұрын
i loooved the old urgot, he was a lane bully that noone knew how to play against. but his ult was really bad for him, most of the time you didnt want to use it unless you could get someone stuck under your tower
@ConfettiBerg
@ConfettiBerg 2 жыл бұрын
Urgots ult made me scared to not have passive on Anivia, still does to this day but not as much, the idea that it also makes the body disappear is even more so to add a sense of fear. He was the first to have this effect, you know, before they have it to Lissandra's passive and then to Bel'veth, though if the coral disappears the body returns so I guess just lissandra and urgot. I wonder why they decided to do that.
@amiamagi
@amiamagi Жыл бұрын
Fear Beyond Death's recast basically brings the target to your chainsaw stomach. Or I could say... they're coming inside you.
@4x4flyingtoken
@4x4flyingtoken 2 жыл бұрын
So I mained old urgot and absolutely loved how goofy his build was he was amazing to play and just launch chainsaws at people halfway across the screen let alone his ult that would confuse the hell outta everyone except the user
@punklingyt
@punklingyt 2 жыл бұрын
I liked that his rework was the first implementation of visual overlays to the HUD to convey gameplay info. I think that the success and positive reception paved the way to other cool overlays like PROJECT / Sentinel Vayne during ult or being Pyke executed. I remember how freaky it was to get ulted by him and have chains cover the edges of your screen right after the rework.
@the_last_ballad
@the_last_ballad Жыл бұрын
The only issue was that the chains didn't retract if he was killed while ulting. I had a few deaths because I wasn't clued in to the fact I was still alive and could escape.
@AlexanderForsman
@AlexanderForsman Жыл бұрын
i really loved the old Urgot and really hated the new one. Only thing that improved was the visual update
@Gone_rogue
@Gone_rogue 2 жыл бұрын
Back when I was in college me and the guys used to laugh at Old Urgot's Ult. "Hyper Kinetic Position Reverser" was such a hilariously long name for concept than can simply be called "Swap". The swap wasn't even long range it was exactly the same range as his auto-attack but the difference to DOTA 2 VS Swap was it gave you armor and MR.
@salty_lake
@salty_lake 2 жыл бұрын
RIP old Aatrox, only champ completely removed from the game
@treymtz
@treymtz 2 жыл бұрын
The last point is why I feel like this is why Urgot's rework success does not invalidate Aatrox's rework failure. Old Urgot's style just wouldn't work and this new one fits him far better. Old Aatrox was a draintank juggernaut focused on Auto attacks and deciding which form of on-hit to use at each moment (extra damage vs extra sustain). I like new Aatrox, but it was not necessary to rework his playstyle away from auto attacks.
@1kman23
@1kman23 2 жыл бұрын
Graves was complety removed from bot as well with his rework
@catelyntully9494
@catelyntully9494 2 жыл бұрын
Urgot was amaizing, my favorite character ever in LoL, and the idea of him being changed due to his toxic gameplay falls completly when you see new champions like Yone and Viego being manaless. Tho I like the rework is nowhere near as fun for me.
@Haha_You_Fool
@Haha_You_Fool 2 жыл бұрын
SHOTGUN KNEES
@sininenblue9161
@sininenblue9161 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I really like about urgot that you didn't mention is his w auto rythm which basically let's a good urgot player do way more damage than you might expect purely through timing
@thomasrottensteiner8926
@thomasrottensteiner8926 2 жыл бұрын
I played so many games of old urgot, every time i was vs Zed it was a instalock freewin😄
@vapixdarmana4428
@vapixdarmana4428 2 жыл бұрын
I really REALLY enjoyed playing old urgot. It was a ton of fun to play and the rework made me quit the champ in it's entirety.
@MenwithHill
@MenwithHill 2 жыл бұрын
He plays so totally different it's really hard to find any of the same fun.
@Guidje
@Guidje 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, new Urgot is one of the coolest rework Riot ever did... But old Urgot was so fun to play!!
@theRobson0908
@theRobson0908 2 жыл бұрын
Unpopular opinion count urgot as meele
@raistlinmajere1000
@raistlinmajere1000 2 жыл бұрын
He was really original, but I think it did not make sense for his fantasy. And being useless to that extent if you fail his e and that flaw of his q not having critic chance scaling and the ability of applying on-hit effects, well. Too constraints on it for only having such good range (only if you hit your e). He created a new champion, but a really cool one. Only his q is a bit underwhelming for how easy it is easy to dodge and pitiful slow.
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 2 жыл бұрын
I do think that both versions of Urgot embody the slow-rolling oppression fortress that urgot was always meant to be, but in very different ways. Old urgot would force you to engage on him by poking you with his Qs, at which point you have fallen into his trap and he destroys you. It was oppressive in that it always felt like no answer was the right answer against him, you either get poked to death or he runs you over, very powerful but it relies on your opponent making the mistake, which is a problem. New urgot I think is much better at the *being the fortress* part than the old urgot, but he's not nearly as oppressive since he really doesn't have anything like his old Q to force the situation. He's more proactive as a character now, which is good in the state that the game is right now.
@raistlinmajere1000
@raistlinmajere1000 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevingriffith6011 in case you hit your e, if not you could not have that extra range. Too punishing if you fail. I think new is better that you have more tools not depending so much on just one ability.
@kevingriffith6011
@kevingriffith6011 2 жыл бұрын
@@raistlinmajere1000 The range on his Q was good even without landing his E. It wasn't the giant full-screen oppressor it was without it, but it was more than enough to be consistent long range DPS that the enemy has to suffer through in the lane.
@Jan_Iedema
@Jan_Iedema 2 жыл бұрын
Just remember: S H O T G U N. K N E E S.
@Ven_detta_
@Ven_detta_ 2 жыл бұрын
It doesn't make any sense for peopel to say that they could have kept old aatrox, isn't the goal for riot is for every champion to have it's own unique power fantasy (or whatever they call it), having 2 top lane drain tank juggernauts raid bosses goes completely against that and people would just flock to the better one. Idk I can't think of a single champion that you could say has the same identity as another.
@viktormizak7054
@viktormizak7054 2 жыл бұрын
i did love old urgot. but new urgot is fun too.
@urgott6945
@urgott6945 2 жыл бұрын
God I miss him so much, Riot deleted his unique playstyle. I'm 100% certain he would be viable nowdays.
@MenwithHill
@MenwithHill 2 жыл бұрын
I would have loved to try him with the modern bruiser items we have.
@urgott6945
@urgott6945 2 жыл бұрын
@@MenwithHill Same, his mana problems and lack of mobility would be non existent. Runes and Itens are so much better
@Betroid
@Betroid 2 жыл бұрын
10:05 graves wants to know your location
@alyssarichardson2544
@alyssarichardson2544 8 ай бұрын
Is new Urgot a more modern champion? Yes. Is new Urgot as FUN as old Urgot? FUCK NO. Same with Sion. Green Arnie was the ultimate drain tank and could build OP, now he's a generic tank but worse because his passive literally encourages inting. BRING BACK OLD URGOT AND SION.
@blame7121
@blame7121 2 жыл бұрын
He was alright in normal games, but where he truly shined was on URF. I remember having so much fun in URF with old Urgot. Not limited by his mana constraints, not encumbered by his long CDs, just focus building damage. Missed your E? It's okay, you can try again in just a few seconds. Landed your E? They are completely done for, as you spam the locked-on Q, slowing them with W, and as soon as the effect runs out you can almost immediately throw in another E. And since you could focus your build on pure damage, you would absolutely MELT your opponent. He was a whole artillery army all on his own. So much fun. So much pain and destruction. I miss the good times.
@Tortferngatr
@Tortferngatr 2 жыл бұрын
Oldgot was pretty fun to play, but he really shone on mid to high MMR Dominion (along with several other champs that were bad on Summoner’s Rift like old Karma). Turns out a map/mode with very different design constraints and objectives will have very different ideas of what makes a champ work-greater ease of flanking, a map with less time for traditional ADCs to scale, and objectives that fast basic attacks don’t help you take faster made Urgot’s AD caster gameplay much more valuable by comparison. I also love new Urgot, and he’s actually one of my most played champs on ARAM. I do kind of wonder if you could maybe do a Dominion retrospective at some point, though.
@joshprice4855
@joshprice4855 3 ай бұрын
I hope they bring back Oldgot's playstyle. He was my second favorite champ to play. A fairly slow but tanky artillery piece that, if played properly, was so difficult to deal with. It was like playing a slightly more mobile bunker.
@Кожуркаотпомидора
@Кожуркаотпомидора 2 жыл бұрын
Ha, it seems, Oldgpt also relied all his gameplay on E button... Man, I like current Urgot, buuuuut... Riot made him to E-dependable. It's not just defines, will your trade be succesful or not - it defines, be it you, or your opponent, who will die. And that sucks. It kinda simplifies him, since you don't have to do something special with other abilities, if you hit E. You hit E? You automatically hit ult, Q, well, W is auto-aimed. Don't know, how it sees other people, but I see it as a problem.
@BansheeNT-D
@BansheeNT-D Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I loved the old Urgot. The new one is good. But it has the same feeling like the new Mordekaiser. :/
@Prorok1994
@Prorok1994 Жыл бұрын
I was sure Old Urgot Q applyed on-hit effects... I played him a lot TOP lane with Manamune+Botrk And then tanky items. Is my memory wrong?
@entersandmanlml
@entersandmanlml 2 жыл бұрын
I was autofill top the other day against an Urgot, I was winning but then he bought black cleaver and I could not defeat him once after that xd
@jeriahburkholder4917
@jeriahburkholder4917 Жыл бұрын
Old Urgots E into Q reminds me of modern Yoricks E, in the early game it has a 12 second cooldown, and it doesn't apply any pressure without graves nearby. If it does you can effectively out harass any champion except a fast autoattacker like irelia or warwick.
@odg1190
@odg1190 6 ай бұрын
Urgot and Yorick both fundamentally were busted poke champions. They both way early in the game's life were nerfed hard and basically put on ice because if they were buffed in any way it would make them incredibly strong. If you had his kit today it probably wouldn't be as much as a problem but still would be incredibly safe characters to play top and a nightmare for opponents. One of my most hated reworks because I've always been a bot person and they took my big beautiful rotting baby from me with that rework
@seantheimp
@seantheimp 2 жыл бұрын
This, so much this. If a champion's original design is bad enough this is their excuse to literally delete them from the game. For when nerfing a balance nightmare isn't enough, for when that janky niche off-meta pick had a kit that didn't deserve to exist in the first place: full VGU
@feniu10
@feniu10 2 жыл бұрын
Old urgot was used in competitive. First worlds league ever held featured a meta where Urgot would dominate bot lane alone while a support would roam the river, ward, harass the jungler, gank lanes. With how weak the old supports were, Urgot could manage to bully in a 2v1. His main problem was.. there werent many items to support his playstyle. He wasn't an adc really, he was more of an ad caster like pantheon. I bet with the current muramana, and all the lethality items, ikd urgot could work well.
@auag7208
@auag7208 Жыл бұрын
I think Urgot is THE forgotten champion, i can't remember seeing him except once 6 months ago, and yes, there are other champs like Ivern or Skarner, but they've got the reputation of not being picked, Urgot doesn't even has that, no one knows him, no one remembers the crab man. And for this very reason he's fucking fire lvl 1, shreds everything to tears.
@quickredf0x143
@quickredf0x143 2 жыл бұрын
Music credits on vids would be neat so I could go find them after. I disagree on Poppy having her old identity completely removed. Almost her entire kit is still there just with added bells and whistles. Her Q is her damage, W makes her tankier, and her E is a point and click charge that stuns people when they hit a wall. I do kind of miss her old ult despite how broken it was; just ult the support and wail on the adc till they die. I also disagree on Urgot not being oppressive to deal with but maybe that comes from not knowing every top lane match up against him to a T. Never once won lane against him since his rework but he's also not my permaban.
@ShawnBlaque
@ShawnBlaque 2 жыл бұрын
"Urgot just couldn't cut it as a champion" footage playing of Gravity destroying TSM lol ahhh somethings never change
@ailospjellok7475
@ailospjellok7475 10 ай бұрын
i mean the video is kind of very disingenuous, since his rework isnt what changed where he played, he almost never went bot because he couldnt keep up with the long range poke damage of adcs because of his lack of early game damage along with ridiculously weak auto synergy, he pretty much always played top the few times he was played. along with the fact that urgot was practically useless until you got 2 or 3 items, which other champs with weak early games could easily outscale, the only real factors that made him good to any degree was his defensive properties along with his range. id say its one of the worst reworks rito has done simply because they try to convince us its the same champ because look, lock on spamm, look ccing dash with shield, look slow, while completely forgetting that they changed him from a somewhat tanky true artillery marksman, into an AA reliant bruiser. i wish riot just nerfed his tankiness and made him a bit more mobile instead of a full rework, since that would 100% have worked for an artillery marksman, since we already have one that plays exactly like that
@nebeskisrb7765
@nebeskisrb7765 Жыл бұрын
"Aatrox was and is a juggernaut." I'm sorry, but Oldtrox had an ability to literally dive into the enemy team. How the hell was he a juggernaut, he was a diver.
@raikaria3090
@raikaria3090 Жыл бұрын
The backlash against reworked Aatrox was in part due to the fact he'd just started to pick up usage and popularity... when the rework was already announced and nearly finished.
@KiDjoKeR-01
@KiDjoKeR-01 Жыл бұрын
the real reason Riot burned down the old Urgot is because they couldn't bear to see . . . . 🤢🤮 . . . . . . . ❤️ Urgot X Gragas ❤️
@zerlichr426
@zerlichr426 2 жыл бұрын
To be honest they didn't do much with conecpt on Urgot. They just reversed his play patern. Rather that having him long range poke with close range cc to trap opponents. To close range fighter that trap opponents in his sweet spot zone, that has long range finisher if enemy wants to escape. If you think about it.
@taitrinh8650
@taitrinh8650 2 жыл бұрын
Vars missed the opportunity to mention the SHOTGUN KNEE for 17min.
@Yenaldooshi138
@Yenaldooshi138 2 жыл бұрын
6:04 was SOOOO WELL PLAYED OMG! Orgasmic ❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥❤️‍🔥
@d4s0n282
@d4s0n282 Жыл бұрын
agreed with most of this, but if ima be honest urgot snowball/cary is QUITE hard, sure you can do it but its gonna be way harder compared to other champs I feel
@oogabooga4108
@oogabooga4108 2 жыл бұрын
Tbf, Zeri is(was) also a tanky artillery marksman, with the "charge into enemy team" prowess of a juggernaut
@nightangelx1513
@nightangelx1513 2 жыл бұрын
Something you never touch on was how needless wordy his abilities were. Seems negligible. But I remember one pro game where Urgot was played and the commentators kept dropping their words trying to shout cast haha
@jeira5239
@jeira5239 2 жыл бұрын
Unpopular Opinion : Old Urgot is basically just Kai'Sa but uglier and shorter range
@Bill-uk6of
@Bill-uk6of 2 жыл бұрын
Btw a fun fact Tyler1 didn't make use to execute people with the ultimate in teamfights but the fear of the ultimate( ult flash) as you said and I really like the rework
@ambershangout7226
@ambershangout7226 Жыл бұрын
NGL I actually liked urgot before rework, ADC caster with a huge range
@spot6532
@spot6532 2 жыл бұрын
**S H O T G U N K N E E S**
@SuperKingofthings
@SuperKingofthings 2 жыл бұрын
I think it’s funny most people played the old him as a tank top laner rather than as an adc that worked out way better . His e letting you auto target his q even through bushes and invis was so fun
@ally3417
@ally3417 2 жыл бұрын
I miss old urgot but my love for him was not so big so i did not care that much in the end... Poppy though...... Sigh
@shurimaleagu
@shurimaleagu 2 жыл бұрын
S H O T G U N K N E E S
@hussamtulimat4718
@hussamtulimat4718 2 жыл бұрын
After i see this, i only think abiut Yorick same old Urgot u need e its long cooldown and u need passive that also long cd a d cant do shit if u miss it so why riot make yorick like that.
@BronzeAnalystTM
@BronzeAnalystTM 2 жыл бұрын
Nilah having Melee stats and Urgot Ranged is one of the most cringe decisions riot has ever done. And Yuumi exists.
@MenwithHill
@MenwithHill 2 жыл бұрын
I really miss old Urgot. I mained him in S5-6, was a good time.
@ultimocontrole9980
@ultimocontrole9980 2 жыл бұрын
Can you design a ad burst mage? Like aphelios with green and white, but like, only that
@whatever2045
@whatever2045 2 жыл бұрын
6:41 "Weirdest ability in the game" It's just a Nether Swap.
@autistictyranitar414
@autistictyranitar414 2 жыл бұрын
Current Urgor actually mantains a lot of old Urgot. I will argue that the only new thing is the passive: Q: is his old E even with the lock on mechanic W: they kept the shield while also giving him offensive capabilities like the old one, the shield was later moved to the E so it would be easier to balance E: old ult but weaker R: it's actually a mega powerful version of his old Q, locks on champions, straight line missile, makes him a threat even when he is not close, can be lethal in the right situation Played both and felt that they kept the opresive playstyle of the old one quite well
@CrabCrabCrabskateCrab
@CrabCrabCrabskateCrab 2 жыл бұрын
Ah yes,my favourite champion URGOR
@nemanja_8
@nemanja_8 2 жыл бұрын
Can u stop complaining about aatrox rework it's very good revirk
@ficusclaudius9698
@ficusclaudius9698 Жыл бұрын
Imagine having a tanky bruiser marksman who is not utilizing crit chance (gnar)
@itchyballsl
@itchyballsl 2 жыл бұрын
thank to the players who cry about old sht aatrox riot are now afraid to update champs like mundo aatrox rework is good and make him from sht to one of the most played toplaners
@concai825
@concai825 2 жыл бұрын
You mean... "AA"trox reworked to "QQQ"trox ?
@itchyballsl
@itchyballsl 2 жыл бұрын
@@concai825 like the old one wasnt a AAtrox
@raikaria3090
@raikaria3090 Жыл бұрын
"The only rework which changed the intended role" Gr... oh wait that wasn't the *plan*
@Arethusa01
@Arethusa01 2 жыл бұрын
Love the use of the old Lollipoppy skin to represent the old Poppy.
@karlangelcabrera7107
@karlangelcabrera7107 2 жыл бұрын
for me, In short old urgot is a complicated champion to master and In a boring way too.
@devastatheseeker9967
@devastatheseeker9967 2 жыл бұрын
How long do we think it'll be till riot brings out league classic with all the og champs as they were?
@MCNshot2shot
@MCNshot2shot 2 жыл бұрын
shotgun knees
@SkillsByNiels
@SkillsByNiels Жыл бұрын
i guess 2018 world showed "weak early game" was not true 13:19
@oliverdelfsdanielsen9144
@oliverdelfsdanielsen9144 2 жыл бұрын
Its funny because i feel like illaoi has the exact same gameplay loop as old urgot
@thelordofthelostbraincells
@thelordofthelostbraincells Жыл бұрын
He's been chosen for wild rift. Yay!!!
@oofmasta9395
@oofmasta9395 4 ай бұрын
I... kinda wish i played old urgot. He seemed cool
@REALpineEATER
@REALpineEATER 3 ай бұрын
Graves' role changed with his VGU :)
@thiccboi4157
@thiccboi4157 2 жыл бұрын
remember folks Urgot and lillia are considered ranged champions and nilah isnt 🤔
@SayShelo
@SayShelo 2 жыл бұрын
Old urgot: crab meme New urgot: Shotgun Knees meme
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