Use Google Voice for Privacy?

[@yehonatan2020]

G - Global O - Observational O - Operation for G - Grouping and L - Labeling E - Everyone

[@WallaWaller]

G - Global O - Operation for O - Observing G - Grouping and L - Labeling E - Everyone Sorry but "Observational operation" was bugging me

[@CyberDocUSA]

Next Video: "Secure Therapy for those Suffering from Multiple Online Personality Disorders & How To Dissociate Yourself From Yourself."

[@dustyhead6497]

Lol 🤣😆

[@louisdebeer2055]

This channel is ultimate privacy red pill 💊 truth above all things

[@jmr]

I currently use the old Yubikey with OTG adapters. I mark each key with a number for tracking purposes. When you have to use text based 2FA Google Voice is slightly better then your real phone if it's set up correctly without SMS forwarding. EDIT: It's cheaper to get a phone number from a VOIP provider to initially set up Google voice.

[@katsim6799]

By VoIP provider you mean services like vonage?

[@jmr]

@@katsim6799 Definitely NOT Vonage. Callcentric or Localphone are good. EDIT: It's not that Vonage is bad but it's overpriced.

[@Avirfreesky]

​@@jmr Google Voice available..

[@jmr]

@@Avirfreesky SMS 2FA is rarely necessary anymore because almost everything has better 2FA options now.

[@CorpAus]

As always, EXCELLENT content provided by Rob!

[@Mantikal]

This is a nice idea. I hope that it works for others. However, I'd like to make others aware of a couple "out-of-the-blue" odd problems they may experience caused by linking their phone number to google voice: 1. When calling cab companies for service, most of them tell you that they're not sending anyone because your phone number isn't showing up on their system - and it looks shady. 2. If you get a brand new (or replacement) credit card or debit card and you call to both get it activated and assign a PIN number to it, you will encounter an odd message that goes a little something like this "We're sorry we are unable to process your request at this time. Please contact your financial institution about this" What the automated service here isn't telling you is that it's reading a completely different phone number (of where you're calling from) than what the bank has on file and is denying you access to move forward. There maybe a whole host of other services that you regularly use that have automation in place to confirm your phone number and compare it to what they have on file (as you dial) that you'll run into problems with by linking google voice to your regular phone number.

[@Tubefex]

As an older normie, I realize the importance of all you say on your channel but implementing these recommendations are just too far above my abilities. I'd also appreciate some form of visual support in your explanation :) Thanks!

[@robbraxmantech]

Sorry, I didn't think that people would need a visual on setting up a Google voice account. Generally, it takes two steps. Set up a Gmail account. And then use that to log in to voice.google.com

[@Tubefex]

@@robbraxmantechSorry, I was refering more to when you describe the way services exchange contact list info and such to form a map. I'm certain it is crucial to properly visualize these kind of maps or interdependancies and I will have to revisit your older videos and pause them and try to draw the various relations and their security risks :) I hate getting old

[@robbraxmantech]

In the Snowden movie, this relationship map was used by the 3-letter agency to justify spying.

[@humblephi473]

@@robbraxmantech so drawing the various relations and their security risks justifies spying on this person for the 3-letter agency? I just realized that here are actually a lot of 3-letter agencies, I guess it's the one that has the same letters as the one that's flying to the moon.

[@ThirtytwoJ]

Having any unapproved thought or actions is reason enough for them. 1984 with more brainwashing.

[@martinlutherkingjr.5582]

It’s important to remember that some websites don’t support VO IP phones for 2-fa or registration verification.

[@genkiferal7178]

we need a list on the subReddit Privacy of which do and don't. I've used Talkatone once, I think, but it won't work for most sites.

[@RabidTribble]

I've noticed a number of services that require a phone number won't accept "virtual" numbers like google voice numbers. Why is that?

[@pissedputin7738]

Data harvesting

[@alfredharrison597]

Because they caught on, and what Pissed Putin said.

[@oneszeros1]

Binge watching and now subbed - thanking you for all the truly valuable information Sir! I thought my experience and practices were reasonably sound prior to reviewing several of your videos thus far but I am amazed at how far this rabbit hole truly goes. I will be looking to strengthen my posture thanks to your content. Multiple thumbs up from me 👍 (should I have even posted this message here? Major paranoia now sets in. Hmm 🤔)

[@cynethiadavis6603]

your information is very informative.

[@cavin1023]

I want the old intro music. 💕 Great privacy content as usual.

[@waywardson6161]

Very, very interesting. Something I’ve been wondering about.

[@hasdrubalsosamarquez5430]

Mr. H ® approved 🙋🏻‍♂️

[@alerey4363]

Lol the title is oxymoronic to the max: google and privacy in the same sentence

[@hopewell9985]

Thanks for sharing us very important information

[@RandyHanley]

I hope for Google to one day collapse. I never thought I'd say that, as I was one of the biggest fanboys of Google for many years.

[@yuka-youtube]

it's surprising there is a google fanboy.

[@alfredharrison597]

It wont happen until a tech revolution like the one in the movie "Transcendence" with Johnny Depp. For that to happen fringe "anti-tech" groups will need to happen, and I dont really see any of those on the horizon, sadly. Things will have to get really really (1984-eque) bad first. Will will need to get angry and pissed off at big tech.

[@OldePup]

You are doing great at this.

[@sergetrahan8244]

Nice info ! Thank you !

[@hectorxie6400]

Rob, may god bless you and be with you. I

[@4DFlatlander]

Good advice with the exception of google's TTS capabilities. The T&Cs for all google services clearly indicate the company reads emails and converts voice to text, which may also extend to live call data. It should be assumed google hangouts>PTSN, soon to be Voice>PTSN only in 2021 must be able to identify a person by voice. The most telling indication of an expectation of privacy on "the Internet" should be is the reverse DNS zone still being in-addr.arpa. for all reverse lookups. DARPA still retains a level of control over the tech they built for a good reason and it has nothing to do with commodification or empowering the average person. This where IQT's investments in tech are a glaring clue. Physical acecss is the best layer to compromise in the networking model.

[@robbraxmantech]

If you use your number in a specific way, then the transcription is not important either. People calling the number are usually spamming me. Google can read that all it wants. You have to think about your specific use. For a business use, I'd probably use a paid service

[@sofakinggood5829]

Awesome, will listen multiple times to get that.

[@josemedina1477]

i am going to check this out see if my new identidy really works

[@CyberDocUSA]

Viewer #411. YubiKey is for me so thax for this info.

[@bigredracer7848]

77👍's up thanks again for taking the time for us all to be with you for the rest of the story

[@hammer86_]

I'm a little confused and would've appreciated some examples. So your GVoice number is the one you give to trusted people? And the month-long temporary number is the one you give to untrusted people and services? That temp number will no longer work when you deactivate it and activate a new number, right? You're going to have to give your GVoice number to any long-running services, like your bank or insurance company, so I don't see how this protects your privacy, unless you go into every service you're subscribed to and change your phone number every month. Is that what you do? In other words, who do you give your GVoice number to and who do you give your temporary number to?

[@nitinkumar29]

"Segregate your identities" ... Remind me of first scene from The Matrix movie.

[@gregdavis8548]

How come what’s app accepts google voice number, but not text now?

[@pierpi6715]

Thank you, Thank you, thank you!

[@LoudCitizen]

ROB, BIG question: I want to ditch my old phone number I’ve had for years and buy a prepaid SIM card with a new number. Then port it to a de-Googled phone. This will disappear me from many databases and relationship maps before I ALSO switch to Google Voice and disposable SIMS. Can you give me advice or warnings ? Before I switch my phone and phone number, I’ll also be ready with VPN, blocked IPs and all other fingerprints erased. Thank you, you’re my hero.

[@paulrich5975]

Hey Rob. I came across your channel last night and like what you are saying. Can you share your opinion on GrapheneOS?

[@dachd]

I've always been looking forward to use Google Voice, sad it's too much hassle to adapt it for google to comply with EU regulations.

[@claytonholton905]

Great job!

[@bobstringer9809]

Google voice integrates with your mobile and forwards voice and text messages to your regular number therefore, someone can text you an image that has a hidden spyware script that automatically downloads onto your phone as one can not stop images from downloading via text messaging. Now your phone has been hacked and a perpetrator has full access of your entire phones operations as if they were holding it in their own hand and unlocked.

[@somelaveenguy6822]

I'm just going to port my existing number to G Voice and only give out my new number to friends and family (and doctors/bank). As long as a service doesnt require text 2FA and offers TOTP or security key, I can just change the phone number associated with that service, right?

[@bobstringer9809]

Phone number authentication systems do not allow the use of a Google Voice Number -- so, now what does one do ?

[@20NewJourney23]

Cheap burner/prepaid phone like RedPocket, Ting, Hello Mobile, Tello, US Mobile.

[@SifuLukasWingTsun]

Great ideas, thanks a lot.

[@bartandlydia]

So to clarify, the de-googled phone that you take with you out of the house is using the Ting SIM cards correct? This is what allows you to keep your real identity private because you can change your number at any time and nothing breaks because everything you need a phone number for is using your Google voice # which is not associated to your actual identity, correct?

[@robbraxmantech]

Yes

[@deangoings]

I don't think it matters if you give them your number or not. I think they still obtain it regardless. I'm almost positive.

[@genkiferal7178]

right? don't they have access to IMEI (hardware) and the SIm or is it MAC on phone?

[@mikerupp2312]

Rob, I recently purchased a new Laptop and was overwhelmed with the crap on the thing,please help me start over, what is the best way to start off with a new computer?

[@robbraxmantech]

there's a new video for Windows. MSI unboxing part 2

[@silvercat151]

However, on the other end of this, I don’t answer calls with no phone number, or with a number I don’t recognize, as there are so many spammers and scammers out there. If it’s important they’ll leave a message. If they don’t leave a message, I block them after an hour or two, which gives them time to call back and leave a message if it’s urgent.

[@MrYAMAHA32177]

They know if you are sleeping and they know if your awake they know if you've been bad or good so be good for goodness sake.

[@84CreazyMan]

man you need to promote your channel

[@TCGOMNI]

Just switched my native cell number to GV and discovered that Banks/institutions apparently will not send 2fa to voip providers. Need a workaround, FAST. Yes, stupid move. Any help is appreciated 🙏

[@jonivanart]

Thanks for all your content. Can you give a review on Project E please...

[@highfructosedreams]

Google for privacy, more like brothel for chastity

[@brymstoner]

comms privacy is a complete fallacy though. whether you use a proper sim or esim-based number, or a virtual number from an online service, you still need to pay for it. and that's how you will always lose. it's better to hide in plain sight. e2e encrypted plain sight. if anything is serious enough and cannot be done face to face, gpg-encrypt it, and scp it onto a hidden dead drop server.

[@tshewangphuntsho1363]

That's so informative

[@PolskiDangles]

Tip - Gmail will not need your phone number if you input age is 14 years old.

[@JoJoboiWav]

fr?

[@Nik-by5mi]

This was posted only a few months ago!! But GOOGLE VOICE is GONE!! its not free anymore???

[@cdlady54_95]

What about sideline? And how do I get ride of the google voice i have now that has tapped my contacts on my home phone?

[@alfredharrison597]

Google and Privacy are kinda oxymorons of one another.

[@seasonfilms9375]

So if your cell phone through a sim translates your general location then what’s the point of carrying around a WiFi box which also has a sim for data but to use WiFi for calling thru an app? Isn’t it defeating the purpose to begin with ? To have a SIM card?

[@cheesun124]

Dude, what happened to the phone recommendations? The blackberry 9900 (3g) will not be supported by AT&T after next year? Whats the alternative?

[@m.r.rodriguez141]

Great.

[@kimbanyc]

Ridiculous times. Let’s just unite and end the tracking.

[@larryburnell7913]

👍👍👍

[@martinlutherkingjr.5582]

What’s best movies on the importance privacy besides 1984 and Snowden stuff? Family doesn’t understand what can happen even if you don’t seem anything happening today in first world countries.

[@outerspacey3790]

What do you think of MySudo app? It uses VoIP, and you can have multiple phone numbers.

[@alfredharrison597]

I might actually look into this, but before i do that - I will have to look into the companys best practices and their standard of ethics/mission statement. (although these days those dont seem to stretch very far =/)

[@kimbanyc]

Why do we accept Google reading our emails? Ugh

[@oompaloompa9139]

Because they gave you yourfirst dosage for free

[@20NewJourney23]

I don't. I opened a Proton account and switched all my important accounts to that.

[@robi8020]

I’ve repeatedly had issues trying to use G Voice and another virtual service as registrations for 2FA on other services like Outlook and others. They seem to be able realize it’s not a common voice carrier like Verizon.

[@robbraxmantech]

Might be interesting to compile a list of platforms that recognize it as Google voice. I have not encountered that.

[@genkiferal7178]

Parler, which isn't even a big co., rejected both a Talkatone and Google Voice #.

[@believeinyourself4457]

How about using Twilio for phone numbers? I have used this to set up lead gen software for a specific city/area when targeting..I mean searching, and as that isn't a daily activity, when I would get a call from LA or Las Vegas, I would at first be confused until I remembered I have local numbers there.

[@Sliceace]

By the way, I followed your tutorial on onyx where I didn't sign in to google and I have also removed google from my phone and is now bloatware which I will remove in the course of the month is that same as degoogling a phone?

[@unwrittenunifier2617]

ummmm... no

[@timhoeffel]

I just looked at Ting and they do not offer SIM cards.

[@billchan4090]

#MeToo

[@vatevor]

Can you really use ting.com to authenticate google voice account? My experience using those virtual number like textnow is that google reject those

[@PierceSunderseatsRAMEN]

¿How useful is it to use second phone number applications?

[@YadraVoat]

Could we create a one-time pad for randomly assigning phone numbers among a large pool of people on a daily basis or something? I suppose that would expose us to the risk of guilt-by-association when we get assigned the phone number of an actual criminal. 😓

[@axli13]

How safe is TAILS OS? How good is this tool for anonymity? Appreciate if you could do a review on TAILS OS for general consumer

[@robbraxmantech]

Safe but overkill

[@greyman1555]

Google voice doesn’t work with Signal. I’ve found several platforms that GV doesn’t work with.

[@DMV_L3GO]

This guy knows his shyt

[@ray495903314]

your opinion on app based 2fa like authy?

[@robbraxmantech]

It's good.

[@workinalday4351]

What we all need to know is will these phones support VoLTE? If not then they are dead! All of the major companies are shutting down any connections from phones that don't support VoLTE. So are these Linux phones able to support VoLTE?

[@nrs8043]

But you can’t set you your Gmail account without giving them a phone number, at least for the last 12 months. Once you’ve given your phone number game over

[@gregdavis8548]

Google always asks for a phone number when signing up for a basic google account, anyway around this?

[@robbraxmantech]

As I said in the video, throwaway phone numbers from Ting.com

[@gregdavis8548]

@@robbraxmantech u just buy 50 SIM cards from there website and have them shipped to u, wouldn’t that leave a paper trail with payment on card and mailing address too?

[@robbraxmantech]

Yes there's a paper trail but once it ages (50 will last a while) then it gets harder to discover. It would take active surveillance with a warrant to figure this out

[@gregdavis8548]

@@robbraxmantech that’s cool, but I’d rather just go to any store and buy the SIM cards in person with cash

[@gregdavis8548]

@@robbraxmantech u said that ting.com only knows u by email address but I don’t understand how that’s correct since they need ur mailing address and billing/payment info too

[@catalinaleon8040]

Mi teléfono no sena me cortan las llamadas para gue no gaste nada eso acen llo nose gue Acer vale

[@Jean-yn6ef]

💚

[@JA-yy6bd]

Is your IP address to gmail identify google voice SIM card ?

[@ducksfan9985]

good ? . id think so given the purpose of a SIM, but me know very little.

[@JA-yy6bd]

Ppl tell me my emails leave my IP address when communicating 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@genkiferal7178]

@@JA-yy6bd for many emails, any person can find out which city you signed up from. A guy told me he lived in Manhattan, but his email said Brooklyn

[@jasonreviews]

don't install apps. Phone numbers are easily hacked through sim swaps.

[@Sanjeevkumar-bx3yx]

Someone in google voice team is intercepting your messages and voice calls ? will give the google voice metadata to some 3rd party to analyze it ?

[@singaporeghostclub]

I only use Google voice if I want to fart to my wife, and vice versa. Works great!

[@GvTn991]

i want google voice account sell please bayar inbox

[@genkiferal7178]

Isn't Google stopping Google Voice any day now? I thinking HangOuts IM will still work, but not phone or video. They are changing to Google Duo for video chat, I think. Google is sending out notifications to users about this, but it is a bit unclear to me.

[@robbraxmantech]

I don't think Google voice is connected to that

[@JG-rt7mr]

What are the security risks with using Majic Jack?

[@P3ktoRis]

This has nothing to do with the vid... but do you know this app? silence.im Thoughts?

[@RicardoPenders]

Way too much work and having just one phone is already getting on my nerves and I'm doing online banking etc. for years and years already, even got my phone stolen once that was so secure that when they switched it off they wouldn't be able to get it working again with or without my sim card so it's completely useless to them and even without a sim card I can still remote access it and I have so many different safety that I don't even bother to go so far as you do with a burner phone and all that. It's already complicated enough and safe enough and I never ever had any problems doing my daily things online.

[@Armannortheast]

Hi sir Please make a video about software firewall Not hardware firewall

[@studiosingyourstyle]

Google voice shows our name. So if it’s being used for safety while dating it’s pointless! Thanks google. Btw… searching Google’s troubleshooting tips is pointless. They don’t explain things well

[@notta3d]

Google and privacy in the same title? I had to click the video to hear the punchline.

[@nowchanlahkesis9691]

How about we all start getting along and acting like brothers and sisters and uncles and dads and mothers before the bunker buster God's kick all our asses with a test to see who's the biggest badass?

[@ghenrique366]

I find u fascinating. 2 me I am a complete deficient in technology. I am honored to be a sibscriber

[@nabull3683]

Any recommendations for a good IM? Want to move away from WhatsApp I don't know if I should use discord or telegram. Looking for something that won't ask for my phone number ideally. Thanks.

[@shandrakher]

I heard signal is good.

[@hixyz19999]

Not considering Signal?

[@nabull3683]

@@hixyz19999 is it better than Telegram in any way?

[@JA-yy6bd]

Session no number needed.

[@hixyz19999]

@@nabull3683 It certainly is and I think Rob wil agree. One of the main differences is that the (encrypted) messages are stored on Signal servers only until they can be delivered. After they have been delivered, they do not exist on Signal servers anymore, only on your phone. When you delete them from your phone, they are gone.

[@timmchavoc]

Lol this is the only video in youtube with Goo gul Voice and privacy in the same title. But seriously, the so called new features in Android 11 show their stepping up their game. Things like one time permission granting, automatically reseting permission after app inactivity, sold as benefits to users show their real arrogance. "Things like safety apps, the user doesnt need to see permissions on" and we know that automatically reseting permissions will be to Allow for goo guls built in data collection framework, etc. Oh how do they know the beta testers preferred the new one time allow permission option? These people are collecting data everytime you touch the screen at this point...

[@oompaloompa9139]

Even when you don't. They know if you snore.

[@bc454irocz89]

Ive been banned from twitter 50+ times so I know a lot about google voice numbers 😂

[@oompaloompa9139]

Are you trump? :)

[@unknownquantity4440]

I used to be a 'head case,' but now I'm an 'Edge Case'

[@ifell3]

Snapchat is weird, even if I have not got phone contacts on my phone it still suggests old friends.

[@ifell3]

@* was only on it for a second

[@yuka-youtube]

snapchat is something i have never used ... when i realize it was kinda dead.

[@shosmyth1454]

I am shocked you’re pushing Google at all?

[@personanongratis]

Alternate title of the video: Boomer learns the word "normie"!

[@sashas3362]

I'm not sure I understand the strategy you are recommending or exactly what you are expecting to accomplish, rob. You talk about hiding your identity yet you talk about giving actual device phone numbers to google voice. Although you can use an unegistered prepaid phone bought with cash the carrier and it's affiliates will be able to identify the user because they have access to it's location via GPS and triangulation relative to wifi hotspots even if location tracking and wifi is disabled. Even if you never use the phone at home they can still identify you using facial recognition data etc when you are out in public. Not only that but they can locate your home by using the accelerometers and gyroscopes to track where the phone is even when it is turned off or the battery is removed because the baseband computer is always running (on a second non-removeable internal battery and can even be powered by airwaves like a crystal radio). BTW google voice records all calls for analysis by Ai to somehow improve google's speech recognition (or at least it still did last I heard about it). That data is reportedly anonymized but anonymized data can easily be deanonymized using data in databanks obtained through data harvesting. You might be able to hide from a certain Ai at this time but not all Ai's and certainly not forever. All the data is recorded and can later be linked to an identity someday after the Ai improves in it's ability to identify users. You might be able to hide phone numbers and identities from some people you interact with but not big tech or gov. Their all seeing eye has become impossible to hide from.

[@robbraxmantech]

The idea is a throwaway number initially. And then use notifications after that

[@sashas3362]

@@robbraxmantech You mean email notifications? You're using a google voicemail number as the phone number required to set up an email account then having notifications sent to that email account? I still don't understand how that prevents the email platform owner or others (such as the Ai you mentioned) from learning your true identity since you are giving your phone number or device ID to google voice. Or did I misunderstand you about that? I'm presuming you are using the google voice app. If so then what prevents the app from acquiring your device ID and IP address? Or is there a web based version which can run in the tor browser or perhaps some web 3.0 browser or browser dapp? Web 3.0 holds some exciting promises for protecting privacy but most people are still using computers which come with closed-source OS's and apps to run the dapps...unless they've built the computer themselves and installed an open source distribution of linux instead of windows, etc. But even if you build from scratch you'd need to run some closed source drivers and BIOS/firmware code, wouldn't you? I know there are some open source BIOS/firmware/driver alternatives out there but am not sure that those are stable and reliable or not since they don't get bug tested the way the closed source options do (since few people are using fully open source systems because it is too challenging to build such a system). Somebody needs to mass market a fully open source computer which can be trusted. It's ironic how all the tools for building such a computer are available but you can't buy that kind of computer. It's as though it were some sort of sci-fi fantasy like antigravity or a time machine.

[@sashas3362]

@@robbraxmantech I see what you are doing. You're not actually using google voice service but instead only using it to acquire a throwaway number so you can set up an email account? You're also NOT installing the google voice app so google voice can't capture your device ID or IP address? I'm guessing you are also hiding your IP address when setting up the google voice account via the signup webpage. Interesting. But do you know of a way to setup a phone so you can both make and receive calls without needing to worry about anybody obtaining your (real) phone number? Seems to me giving your phone number to anybody is risky these days and opening your phone to being hacked. It should be regarded as basic computer security to have an untraceable phone but unfortunately people view it as a threat as opposed to basic computer security. It seems authorities expect us to give up true security in exchange for their promise to protect us from the bad guys. Yet we are still getting hacked aren't we? I'd prefer to protect myself rather than rely on others to protect me.

[@Guillie641]

The HACKING OF YOUR PHONE STARTS WITH YOUR CELL PHONE CARRIER EMPLOYEES

[@andersfrihamn]

I have been trying to find a alternative for Google speech recognize engine but what I can see the only alternative is Samsung´s Speech Assistant? As I have a Samsung Galaxy J6+. Yes I know I´m lazy talking instead of typing lol Oh btw, I followed your advice using different browsers for different medias and homepages. A bit tricky to remember in the beginning but I´ll get used to it.

[@algeriennesaffaires7017]

Please remove the background music

[@Alycanj]

google and privacy just like biden and small children should never be used in the same sentence.