USS Enterprise E VS LARGE Kazon Fleet | Star Trek Ship Battles | Bridge Commander |

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[@Gentleman...Driver]

I think its best to kill of the smaller ships first. They are quicker to kill, so you take away the damage they can make to you very quick.

[@logicplague]

"Not to worry, we are still flying half a ship" - Obi-Wan Kenobi

[@deepdivedylan]

The explosion of Maje Dukat took out the small raiders. Nicely done, Jean-Luc!

[@BC-dn6oq]

Seska really does get around a little bit doesn’t she 😂😂😂

[@jyralnadreth4442]

The Kazon Predators were just heavily Armed Trabe Freighters....this is why Voyager was able to defeat them later on. In Caretaker they probably had no idea it wasn't a dedicated warship. The Kazon ability to upkeep these ships was also inconsistent. The Sovereign should have walked over all 5 ships with its state of the art weapons while Voyager was armed for its own defence (With weapons up to the Fleets standards ie Type 10 Phasers just like the Akira, Steamrunner, Saber, Norway, Galaxy, Nebula, Nova and many others)

[@TheMingilator]

I believe only the main saucer phasers were type 10, the rest were type 8, still very potent though, shame Voyager only had 2 of those tricobalt devices though

[@jyralnadreth4442]

@@TheMingilator Type 8 Phasers were used on the Excelsior Class...and they never were built in arrays like the type 9 and 10s were. The Main Phasers you are right are the saucers arrays...namely because the longer the array the more emitters and the larger the energy build-up. The Galaxy had the largest arrays but it limited its rate of fire so later ships used largen numbers of smaller arrays

[@TheMingilator]

@@jyralnadreth4442 you are right, I'm not sure that smaller arrays on the intrepid class are type 10 though, maybe type 9 as in the ambassador class

[@TheMobester]

You also have to remember in caretaker voyager was severely damaged and wasn't operating a full capacity, that would have also made them apprehensive to take on the massive kazon vessel

[@mwshields9002]

Q's intervention no doubt, dosent want his favorite dying young.

[@lucarinaldichini324]

After the Scimitar picard most have found this a walk in the park

[@goofygoober779]

I think attacking the weakest opponent first can be a good way to end the damage they may be able to deal to you quickly, but only if the damage they do is actually big enough to make a difference. Lets say we face 5 ships, 4 of them are small low hit points and 1 is big with a lot of hit points. The assessment should be: -How many ships are there? -how much damage do the low HP ships do? -Is that damage negligible? (If so ignore them, if not destroy them accordingly)

[@samspeed6271]

My head canon is that the Kazon sects are inconsistent with their upkeep of the ships. Head canon is that the Ogla take care of their ships better than the Nistrum, hence why the Predator in Caretaker is able to put up a decent fight, while the Predators in Basics Part I aren't too bad.

[@DkSchadow]

Voyager was also pretty badly damaged when it was thrown into the Delta Quadrant, she likely wasn't at full combat capability in that first fight.

[@getothechoppa114]

Nice!!! The kazon would be no match for the E!

[@jkeelsnc]

Good battle. The predators are a little bit surprising.

[@cliffwahl7769]

I’m sue Janeway would have her staff studied the sensor logs of Kazan engagement to look for weaknesses or something they can exploit. Western militaries do this too, with after action reports

[@robinvan1983]

What a battle!

[@john316godlovesyou5]

Great video! Thanks!

[@sethtubman1229]

I hate the Kazon in "Bridge Commander," it's like they became Romulan warbirds all of a sudden. The large carrier vessels were a match for "Voyager," when there were 4 or 8 or however many there were in "Basics," but for a larger ship in the Alpha Quadrant like a Galaxy-class or certainly a Sovereign-class, there should be no "battle." "Voyager," destroyed one with 3 photon torpedoes and a few hits of their weak, type-X phasers. The "Enterprise's" type-XII phasers should blast holes into the Kazon and the quantum torpedoes should go through them like a knife through butter. Remember, the Kazon are so unsophisticated, they struggle to find *water*. the *most* abundant resource in the universe. They don't have energy matter capabilities, which means no transporters, no replicators, and no *shields*. The only reasons "Voyager," was under threat from them was because "Voyager," was alone, without the Federation's resources nearby to call on and because Seska and Jonas had sold them out, so the Kazon knew some of their weaknesses. And even then, a damaged class-2 shuttle in "Initiations" could outmaneuver a carrier vessel at impulse speed. This "battle" should have lasted all of 2 minutes and 30 seconds of that being the "E" powering up its forward phaser array and loading its torpedo bays.

[@CJMozzaGames]

absolutely fabulous episode, a real close call there so close i was on the edge of my seat lol, plus when you clutched the victory......i may have cheered quite loudly and woke people up haha

[@tinman3586]

Klingons are like, Blackwater or other military contractors. The Kazon are are like the Hell's Angels or some other motorcycle gang.

[@dougsmith6262]

I always used to wonder how the Kazon would have fared against a Sovreign or Defiant class, whenever I watched Voyager.

[@kaeaja]

Really nicely done video as always! Btw, about Voyager vs multiple kazon ships, Voyager made use of holographically generated Talaxian ships as distractions.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Oh yes! I forgot about that. Haha. When the doctor accidently got projected outside!

[@kaeaja]

@@RetroBadgerGaming Haha yeah I remember that to :D

[@XHunter442]

You got lucky this time next time you won't... I feel that's a line from somewhere lol! Thanks for the video! LLAP!

[@TheThewulasvegas]

Nice fight!

[@Prang972]

I'm a bit surprised you don't use the flying away trick and just use aft weapons to soften them :P It's boring but effective.

[@e4unow421]

Multi-targeting would have served you well here.

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Indeed! Although in BC-Remastered there isn't the option to Multi-Target as of yet.

[@EdricLysharae]

The Kazon did far better than I thought they would have against the E. Nevertheless, if you are a race where The Borg say, "Thanks, but no thanks," you know you don't have much going for you.

[@thelegendarysolocard]

20 asguard ships vs atlantis

[@02ujtb00626]

I gotta be honest...this version of the Sovereign is not my favorite. It isn't the beast it should be. The fact that Voyager seemed to do better or equal to it is a prime example (and you know how much I am on Team Intrepid lol). The Sovereign should have much less trouble than Voyager did. Maybe try with a different Sovereign and use multi targeting....i dunno....this just doesn't seem right.

[@davidmardlin9733]

In caretaker voyager was damaged from being dragged by caretakers array

[@aaronwalker1615]

This meaning, that if this was Star Wars The 1st order Star Destroyers...The USS Enterprise E class Assault Cruiser would eat a small fleet for lunch...Without taking very much damage, in comparison to the STO Kazon predators of overall weapons strength and comparable defensive technologies of the STO universe.....

[@zachwilliams2597]

it's easy to kill kazon ships because the technology is primitive and they don't fully understand it, because it's not even theirs.

[@aaronwalker1615]

@@zachwilliams2597 @ And the Star Wars tech of the Disney + SW universe is way worse....There Tech would be inferior to the Enterprise E assault cruiser tech...Eats ISDs for breakfast 🥞.....

[@zachwilliams2597]

@@aaronwalker1615 this is a misconception. Star wars ships do not actually fire lasers. What these "lasers" are, are plasma or particle beams similar to disruptors. With the output of an ISD's reactor being similar to that of a small star if you compare the stated numbers, a single light turbolasers shot would be at least as powerful as a photon torpedo. With medium and heavy ones being in the gigaton and teraton ranges respectfully. And thus their shielding technology would have to be powerful enough to withstand such shots. Thus, a ship similar in size to the enterprise-E, (which is a single ship, not a class as you said, the class is the Sovereign-class)... Like the Dreadnaught-class heavy cruiser, would easily be able to fight a Sovereign-class toe-to-toe at the least. A much larger ship, such as the ISD, would make rather short work of the Enterprise-E or any Sovereign-class, as their weapons wouldn't be able to easily break it's shields. And even if they could, if you look at wookieepedia's legends articles for Durasteel, what makes up the hull armor of an ISD, neutronium is listed as one of the materials in the alloy, meaning it is incredibly strong. It's stated in Star trek TOS that their weapons can't even make a dent in neutronium. Granted Durasteel isn't pure neutronium, just an alloy. But they would at least need tricobalt or transphasic torpedoes. To really have a decent hope at destroying an ISD.

[@aaronwalker1615]

@@zachwilliams2597 @ Bwhahahahaha!!! Sorry, I had too...Nope... Vehemently disagree!!! Star wars: Rebels showed us the true power of a (Thrawn's)Fleet of ISDs in orbit...They couldn't even blast a 15ft hole from the upper atmosphere... Nevermind, "Glass" a planet like what Enterprise D could do from a scientific standpoint....No, it is now Star Wars Disney+ 🌈 new age Canon....A 170m long Hammerhead Corvette could ram an ISD and physically drive it into other ISDs....The Post Nemesis ST: Enterprise E assault cruiser could deliver dozens of class 6 PHOTON TORPEDOES and spreads of Quantum torpedoes so devastating that make fission/fusion nukes look like firecrackers 🧨!!! Nevermind the heavy Phaser strip arrays delivering many firing arcs with accuracy and power!!!!

[@zachwilliams2597]

@@aaronwalker1615 I don't care about Disney canon. Everything I know and care about is from legends. In legends an ISD can boil a planets oceans and turn the surface to slag. Thrawn was toying with the rebels, not using full power.

[@robinvan1983]

OK, how many maquis ships do you need to kill a enterprise D or E?

[@mobeasley8577]

U got lucky 👍

[@zachwilliams2597]

it's easy to kill kazon ships because the technology is primitive and they don't fully understand it, because it's not even theirs.

[@BradimusMaximus78]

Where do you get this mod?

[@blacksoxxboy]

Is selecting secondary targets not a thing anymore? Or does that break the game?

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

It’s not available in this mod. I was playing in Bridge Commander remastered. Kobayashimaru has multi targeting, but the game always crashes with the Kazon 🖖.

[@simonpreston]

@@RetroBadgerGaming I was going to mention this, but realised you were using BCR. I wish they'd implement that in to BCR. I feel naked without it.

[@jonharper4478]

No way you should have won that, but you did and it was awesome.

[@zachwilliams2597]

it's easy to kill kazon ships because the technology is primitive and they don't fully understand it, because it's not even theirs.

[@conorbrown6181]

Do you prefer BCR or KM?

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

At the moment Bridge Commander Remastered is my favourite, as it's much more stable and visually looks a lot nicer. The only advantage with Kobyashimaru is that you can add pretty much any mod to it and it will work, whereas BC Remastered doesn't play nice with mods. How about you? I have separate installs for each mod.

[@conorbrown6181]

@@RetroBadgerGaming I enjoy the effects (damage etc) of KM, I think some of the features like MVAM and Secondary targeting are brilliant too but totally agree it was never the most stable platform. I used to mod for BC, watching your videos is making me want to dust off the old tools👍

[@Shory22]

Next time eject the warp core lol.

[@simonpreston]

He just did.

[@zeddtekkadon2399]

What is this?

[@StriveDad]

Lucky 😂

[@RetroBadgerGaming]

Very 🤣

[@robbieatnsudotcom]

It was closer, but the Sovereign wins again. I think Jean-Luc may need some spiked earl Grey tea after that one.