Can I request the cards being talked about stay on screen before being placed into the tierlist? I'm not sure what the best placement would be to not obstruct anything, but I find myself having to scrub back and forth to reread the card sometimes. Idk if this is something that had been considered, but I'd appreciate it, and of course I don't expect you all to go too far out of your way if it's too troublesome. Either way, thanks!
@MrBLAAHHHHHHHHHHH2 жыл бұрын
Seconded!
@AlsonamedDennis2 жыл бұрын
Thirded!
@andrewwhite21232 жыл бұрын
Fifthted!
@AugustAMcClung2 жыл бұрын
I was just thinking the same thing…there is no reason to move it until you move on to the next card!
@JustRightPinedo2 жыл бұрын
7thed (or 29th?)
@matthewbell48972 жыл бұрын
My favorite thing to do with Gier reach sanitarium is to activate it in response to a thassa's oracle trigger
@rteishe2 жыл бұрын
Came here to say this, knew it had already been said, haha. Yeah, ontop of being a handy loot effect on an etb untapped land...its very good anti-thoracle tech. GRS should be rated a least a little higher imo
@egoish67622 жыл бұрын
Cephalid colosseum is better in that anti thoracle slot as it forces draw 3, most thoracle combos can still leave 2 on top and eat a loot before still winning. Draw 3 puts them at a point that they leave 3 in their deck and if they don't have the devotion they don't get the win or go to 2 and lose...
@matthewbell48972 жыл бұрын
@@egoish6762 cephalid colosseum is def. better, especially if you expect to see thoracle. But GRS is colorless and has more use outside of that aspect. I just wanted to mention it since it wasn't mentioned in the vid
@egoish67622 жыл бұрын
@@matthewbell4897 my point was any thoracle player will probably only fall for GRS once as it's an easy play around, so i don't really see it having an impact outside of, an admittedly quite fun when it works, gotcha moment.
@devin52972 жыл бұрын
I play thespian stage in basically all my commander decks, I rarely build a deck that doesn’t have lands I’d be happy to have more than one copy of, and the copying others lands is gravy
@willgary87922 жыл бұрын
Worst case it's a basic land....its in all my decks as well
@ConstanceMists2 жыл бұрын
Worst case scenario its either a basic or a dual, best case you copy someone’s coffers or a bounce land is even good value. Such a good card
@devin52972 жыл бұрын
@@Ceyx000 my favorite targets are field of the dead and lotus field, but bounce lands and lots of powerful utility lands are good too
@troylambert16012 жыл бұрын
haven't even watched yet and I already know halimar depths is getting an S+++
@CheenTheCat2 жыл бұрын
ngl Halimar Depths in Yuriko HAS killed people tho xD
@zhanghia Жыл бұрын
halimar secretly was so good. Being able to hit my lands or curve was a godsend.
@loganestes28412 жыл бұрын
Just started following you guys on Moxfield! And it’s my sons 5th birthday!!
@berserkerah13362 жыл бұрын
Myriad Landscape it's a jewel for me. I use green in a lot of my edh decks, and that's a "must" card. When I use it in my Yarok's landfall deck, it's just blows everybody minds.
@John_Smith_Dumfugg2 жыл бұрын
Myriad landscape is great cause it turns elvish reclaimer into essentially a 3 mana land dork, on top of all it's other uses (T1, Forest, reclaimer. T2, land, activate reclaimer to get myriad landscape. T3, land, activate myriad landscape. Now you're 2 lands in the yard, and one land ahead on the board)
@soleo2783 Жыл бұрын
Thats 5 mana btw, because of myriad activation. Doesnt seem worth tbh
@NoobN00b2 жыл бұрын
Sunhome, fortress of the legion. Is one of favorite utility lands. I will randomly give other players creatures double strike. Especially if they have a beefy commander.
@Ensaladarusagod2 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for months for it to be my birthday just so you guys would say happy birthday to me
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
Happy bIrthdat!
@greatbrandini39672 жыл бұрын
I think you're under valuing Myriad Landscape. It is ramp in a land slot, it is ramp that finds other lands, and it can be activated at instant speed. Might not be as powerful of an effect as some other lands, but it has more, reasonable homes than almost any other card on this list. Also, it gives you 2 zombies off of Field of the Dead late game, or can find a snow and regular basic to get Field online, so that adds even further to its value
@quakins6814 Жыл бұрын
As someone who played it for the longest time before cutting it, it just feels so bad to have to skip a turn to play it. Especially since it doesn't line up well with the way other ramp works (which is something like a signet on 2). In this case you have to crack this on turn 3 when you might want to be playing your commander or wait until later and at that point you'd much rather be doing stuff on each of your turns. And then in addition it's also a tapped land and doesn't give you any colors. I would much rather be playing an untapped dual land. I like it in mono color decks though because you're usually lighter on ramp you are even able to play
@johnshifflet2 жыл бұрын
Love you guys, helped me build decks to be able to play with my friends that have epic commander decks!
@pauldyson80982 жыл бұрын
Spot on about proliferate. I run PnT walkers and I've cut stuff like Thrummingbird and Tez's Gambit. E Sage, as you note, is still worth it. Fair assessment of Reliquary Tower. It should not be ubiquitous. I run it one deck (Minn). Stage/Depths is definitely scarier in 60-card formats.
@FireHawkDown2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love the content you two do. I watch every day I can, and it always helps me find new and exciting cards to use and keep me up to date on what is top-tier. Would you ever consider having the Card Image shrink a tad and move below your camera while continuing to talk about it and rank it? One thing I find for me is that I have to go back to see what card it is if I don't recognize the art print, or if I want to read it again. Otherwise, keep up the great daily content!
@dakodastevens89722 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that you can use rogues passage on enemy creatures. Really funny if you are playing a goad deck, or a deck like Breena. You can also just ambush people sometimes. No one pays attention to the rogues passage when it's not your turn.
@jordankirby76322 жыл бұрын
Glacial chasm is the biggest omission here. It doesnt go in everydeck but it straight up beats a good amount of decks and even stops a good variety of combos. Insanely good with crop rotation.
@MrCamel2542 жыл бұрын
why not talk about shizo, deaths storehouse and the other legendary lands? Shizo is basically a better rogues passage for voltron and yuriko and the other ones are pretty great too. Do they not count as utility lands?
@AlsonamedDennis2 жыл бұрын
I like Maze of Ith. It's an old-school inf. mana combo with Krosan Restorer and similar cards. I play it in Windgrace and the combo powers up my Wolfrun and Dark Depths!
@the_names_rob2 жыл бұрын
Kessig Wolfrun is at least B tier imo. Definitely better than command beacon, high market and I want to also say inventers fair but i havent played with thag one before
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus82992 жыл бұрын
Agreed, I have made Birds of paradise 5/6 and doubled it with Xenagos to a 10/11 Haste Trample Flier... my opponent was so surprised but I quickly reminded them to always bolt the bird! LOL. Kessig Wolfrun is a great card and can come out of no where if used right :P
@gabrielchovan-spence42152 жыл бұрын
It is in b tier.
@JohnSmith-hs9ez2 жыл бұрын
It's definitely not better than inventor's fair
@derrickwarner12 жыл бұрын
Try to view this list in a meta that relies on a non-combat, combo-centric and alternate win-con meta of cEDH.
@the_names_rob2 жыл бұрын
@@derrickwarner1 these guys dont do cedh tho
@coxco932 жыл бұрын
Great video. So you know bojuka bog is a house is power lvl 10 and cedh.
@grampaw56052 жыл бұрын
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx goes in all my 2+ color decks. Surprised you didn't mention it.
@Turkin4tor2 жыл бұрын
I'm right there with Beezy on Field of the Dead. It's just free extra value! So good.
@InGovWeMistrust2 жыл бұрын
Sanitarium is there to stop thoracle. When they mill their library you activate the sanitarium with thoracle on the stack. To be fair that’s a cedh thing mostly but still comes up sometimes.
@charliemarlow6472 жыл бұрын
You talked about Thespian's Stage, but where do you land on Vesuva (pun intended)? Similar, but works slightly differently.
@andrewwebb38132 жыл бұрын
I would argue Field of the Dead is A tier. It’s really good, but it’s pretty bad in mono color or budget lists. S tier would indicate a ubiquitous value in any deck, and I think FotD is too specific. Budget and mono both run too many basic for Field to generate Zombies, and a player just tossing it in because it’s S will find that it’s a tapped Wastes there.
@quakins6814 Жыл бұрын
That's a very specific case for it to not be good. In pretty much every other case it's incredible.
@thebuthcer1232 жыл бұрын
Valakut and goblin guide is the reason why started playing magic back in 2010
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus82992 жыл бұрын
I guess this is part 1? Some of my favorite utility lands and some interesting designs of lands over the years Winding Canyon- Alchemists Refuge- Emergence Zone Myriad Landscape- Blighted Woodland Gavony Township Mirrorpool Lotus Vale- Lotus Field Deserted Temple Lake of the Dead Homeward Path Academy Ruins- Volrath Stronghold- Riptide Laboratory- Unholy Grotto- Hall of Heliods Generosity :P
@Darth_Pro_x2 жыл бұрын
I like having Reliquary Tower even when I don't really need it because I like not having to decide what to discard
@jarendavidson57582 жыл бұрын
NEW NITPICKING NERDS VIDEO!
@JD-gk7eh2 жыл бұрын
Maze of Ith's best use is on your own creatures. It's great if you have an attack trigger on an otherwise fragile creature (Kaalia, the new Chun-Li, etc.). It can randomly screw over Voltron decks because it's colorless (so protection, except that given by Giver of Runes, doesn't help) but mostly, it's for your own creatures. You can do some really wild stuff like attack with a first striker + a Lure effect and then remove your creature from combat after first strike damage to kill something. But these are the best homes. We are a looooooong way from the days when this card was restricted in Vintage because it brought games to a screeching halt.
@AlsonamedDennis2 жыл бұрын
I also like Strip Mine as a rattlesnake. I've gone back-and-forth with this issue, but currently, I believe it's appropriate to ruin the person who is threatening to take you out. However you come down on this issue sets the precedence for future games. And, I would prefer my opponents think twice about killing me.
@dannyirvin59902 жыл бұрын
The seedborn with alchemists refuge is exactly my goal in simic ezuri
@Crappuccino122 жыл бұрын
Glacial Chasm and Bojuka Bog are my favorite utility lands for sure
@misterdonwaters Жыл бұрын
Dudes, I have had Kaalia stolen from me several times now. I have played the deck only 5-6 times and had her stolen at least 4-5. Blue loves to play the “gain control of” effect! Even if they don’t steal your commander they may steal your big stompy. The player who does a lot of this finally told me “You need a Homeward Path”. It is not only Kaalia that can get stolen. My very first edh game a player on an early turn played something that caused us all to gain control of the commander card to our left! Homeward path will shut it down and you don’t even have to sac it to do it! You guys should show some love to a card that can keep the fun in the game! (Though I’m sure blue guys have fun taking your commander).
@AugustAMcClung2 жыл бұрын
Lol, I bet people wish they had Homeward Path against my Marchesa, the Black Rose deck 🤣 The deck revolves around taking the board’s best creature attacking the opponent within highest life, sacrificing it with a +1/+1 counter on it, and keeping the best creature on my end-step. I throw in fulminator mage just in case they have one of these or for some rinse and repeat land destruction. My steal effects double as card advantage and pseudo removal. I need to add High Market and Pharexian Tower to really oil the machine. People usually crack back at my shenanigans but that just helps keep me from having the highest life total. 👍🏻
@velkejkoren2 жыл бұрын
OMG Nerds how can you be this good
@marcodarsie59362 жыл бұрын
what do you think about Cabal stronghold and Crypt of Agadeem? where do they go in the list ?
@youngnikos96252 жыл бұрын
Cabal Stronghold is like B+. Gives you colorless mana at the minimum and turns into a mini-Cabal Coffers late game. I'd say B for Crypt of Agadeem if you can fill your graveyard very quickly in a black creature oriented deck. You'll have to use self mill engines like Mesmeric Orb , Altar of Dementia, Buried Alive etc ... to really make it work. I won't throw it in any mono black deck.
@Adjacent_22 жыл бұрын
no Gavony Township or Vault of the Archangel :(
@Blacksunstoneful Жыл бұрын
With the new Mycosynth Gardens, lands like Vesuva and Thespian's stage are completely busted as it give two more chances (more if using sculpting steel, copy artifact etc.) to clone artifacts so you can drop like four defense grids in commander so it costs every player an extra 12 mana to even swing at you add it with other stax pieces and you're immune to interaction by virtue of it costing like 20+ mana to even do so. But it's any artifact so you can use mycosynth and thespian combos to do anything, even more deadly with mycosynth lattice in play as you can copy anything on the field multiple times.
@the_names_rob2 жыл бұрын
If you had 4 or 5 cards that you would want to discard in your self mill deck would you run geir reach sanitarium?
@tbclabamba80512 жыл бұрын
Like you said, maze of ith is good in decks where you play crop rotation and so on. It really gets amazing in a lands matter deck with cabal coffers and urborg, since you almost always tutor for urborg at some point and then your maze can even tap for mana. Add a commander that can use mana on enemy turns and maze is the absolut best
@JD-gk7eh2 жыл бұрын
I feel like if Cyc Rift were ever banned, Req Tower would start to decline in usage rate. I think a lot of people play it because they don't want to lose cards to Cyc Rift.
@michaellanphier8512 жыл бұрын
Excited to watch and curate my mana bases!
@zackkelley29402 жыл бұрын
Implying that I can only use command beacon once, how silly^^ My Crucible of Worlds disagrees with that statement sirs, let alone the many MANY options if I'm in Green.
@CmdrUD872 жыл бұрын
I think you're giving Karn's Bastion not quite enough credit. It's super solid if you play it in a deck that cares about counters and keeps mana open for answers- like, say, Ezuri, Claw of progress, or, to a lesser extent Atraxa.
@Supertails2242 жыл бұрын
I use Rogue’s passage in my Voltron Jared Carthelion deck and my dimir ninja deck. Perfect add for both
@NewOldEBM2 жыл бұрын
I keep saying it, but... You really seem to be missing how important/impactful halimar depths is/can be with cascade. It's huge, in cascade decks (which historically contain simic, therefore amazing ramp) moving the sol ring off the top to run into something bigger and spicier is 100% worth it. I know you don't like to dabble in budget too much, but as an alternative to top, it's great.
@leonsegade-garcia29362 жыл бұрын
its probably pretty decent in decks with a good way to shuffle their deck also!
@leonsegade-garcia29362 жыл бұрын
also decks that might care about the top of their library like yuriko, aminatou etc...
@jasondeberry33532 жыл бұрын
Beezys smile the entire field of the dead explaination: 😁
@jordanlawlor892 жыл бұрын
😂 Into the order of alphabetical. It’s alchemist refuge is first. Love you guys!
@BigDrew492 жыл бұрын
Mystic Sanctuary = Infinite turns in my Orvar deck thanks to boughtback whim of volrath plus an extra turn spell
@ICEDNOTBLENDED2 жыл бұрын
I think a cool land could be one with “Landfall: Add one mana of any color.” You can’t tap it for mana or do anything else, and if you miss a land drop you miss out on mana, but it can be like a tapped command tower that can activate more than once per turn if you get multiple lands on your turn.
@randymotter512 жыл бұрын
so its a Lotus Cobra, but a land? Would be interesting to say the least on top of being very powerful due to the general lack of focus on land destruction for most players.
@ICEDNOTBLENDED2 жыл бұрын
@@randymotter51 yeah essentially. I feel like it would even somewhat fit into a deck without a bunch of ramp cards just because of fetch lands.
@baconsir11592 жыл бұрын
Lotus Cobra on a land sounds insane. Any landfall deck it’ll be absurd
@ICEDNOTBLENDED2 жыл бұрын
@@baconsir1159 keep in mind it doesn’t tap for mana and if you miss a land drop you probably don’t benefit from the land. But yes, it could definitely ramp well in the right deck.
@olivermeloche20422 жыл бұрын
Sounds pretty busted, as already mentioned fetches would push this land over the top
@patrickheinz84662 жыл бұрын
Rogue's Passage is an all-star in Yuriko.
@crawdaddy12342 жыл бұрын
Was there no Moxfield ad mid-video? I wasn’t fully paying attention.
@epicness8772 жыл бұрын
If u rapidly hit 0:00 , you can get some sick beat boxing from Joe Cherries 😎
@mattdeters83062 жыл бұрын
Muldrotha loves Command Beacon, because you can keep playing the Beacon back out of your graveyard. Also, no Bazaar Of Baghdad? No Diamond Valley? No Mishra's Workshop? No Tabernacle At Pendrell Vale?
@julianvickers2 жыл бұрын
They picked the most popular lands from EDHrec so obviously they didn’t pick the ones that cost thousands.
@afrotoa2 жыл бұрын
A cameo from Amber is a cameo well deserved!
@dominikbeckmann10422 жыл бұрын
I sometimes use Ghost Quarter on myself to trigger Landfall again.
@lysander32622 жыл бұрын
Grave Titan- makes two Zombies on turn 6 Field of the Dead- makes 0 Zombies on turn 6 Remind me why Grave Titan- isn't better 🤔🤔🤔?!?!?!
@SnuggyDabbins2 жыл бұрын
They over hype field of the dead. Its a terrible card in most decks unless you're playing 15+ turn games everytime.
@jean-lucgenereau46172 жыл бұрын
Is Homeward Path a good answer for someone running Beamtown Bullies, maybe?
@Chidon0 Жыл бұрын
were would academ ruins be a or b?
@stevenrhodes83382 жыл бұрын
You’ve always been able to loop time warp you got meloku even gives you a win con
@Xopher12222 жыл бұрын
The most Strip Mines I've played per turn is 5. With the Cat Daddy of course.
@sharkmanyt44312 жыл бұрын
What if halimar depths was an mdfc, where it entered tapped as a land but had the effect as a sorcery on the other side?
@FarCough145 Жыл бұрын
It’d be cool if you also had the price of a card up when you’re talking about it.
@TraigoRespuestasEDH2 жыл бұрын
What about Urborg and Yavimaya?
@jankpilediver38632 жыл бұрын
Hey nerds, thanks for the premium content as usual! What are your thoughts on Karakas (comes in untapped, taps for white or to bounce a legendary creature)?
@1ntegrator2 жыл бұрын
It's banned in EDH because it's too good bouncing everybodys commanders. But it would obviously be ridiculously good if it were legal
@jankpilediver38632 жыл бұрын
@@1ntegrator that makes sense.
@nebnesnah2 жыл бұрын
Surprised to see high market in the A slot. I think it's too specific in what it does to be A. I would have graded it B
@kristianovergaard11122 жыл бұрын
Phyrexian tower is a colorless land. How many lands besides Dryad Abor is actually colored?
@SnuggyDabbins2 жыл бұрын
As far as I know arixmethes is the only other colored land.
@thrillhouse41512 жыл бұрын
I wish there was a Wirewood Lodge for goblins, I’d use that with Krenko in a heartbeat.
@nwttp2 жыл бұрын
Krenko is already absurd enough.
@Gravetanha2 жыл бұрын
What about Emeria, The Sky Ruin?
@Eyr2 жыл бұрын
Zedruu with homeward path can shift a game very suddenly lol
@mfitkin2 жыл бұрын
“I think if you’re metagaming that’s great” - Beezy, out of context, 16:42
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
Beezy is jerk get him!
@ygaudreault2 жыл бұрын
Mystic Sanctuary is my main win con in my orvhar deck
@Mell0422 жыл бұрын
Y’all did Maze of Ith dirty. It can give your creatures pseudo vigilance by untapping it after damage resolves.
@dswan5052 жыл бұрын
Reliquary tower is a meta pick against decks that run Jin gitaxias
@nwttp2 жыл бұрын
Neither of the haste lands? Odd.
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
We did the most played
@nwttp2 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds oh, makes a lot more sense, then. Heh.
@demphisford6142 жыл бұрын
I was cool with no more nick names eventually,but dang ,no more tid bits? I'm sure I'll grow used to it again, but Even as big as the command zone is they have the end step . I know it's daily, but still, idk .
@jessesandburg2 жыл бұрын
Command beacon is HUGE for Phage the Untouchable
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@AugustAMcClung2 жыл бұрын
Rouge’s Passage and Blightsteel Colossus
@thetogtube22 жыл бұрын
COMMANDFEST VEGAS BABY!!! Ya'll going?!?!?!
@jessesandburg2 жыл бұрын
What Yavimaya and Urborg considered among land types?
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
They are more fixing than utility
@jessesandburg2 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds Okay thanks
@jordango88472 жыл бұрын
Please do more “is this card worth the price” videos!!
@crawdaddy12342 жыл бұрын
Super hoping Riptide Laboratory is in here.
@baconsir11592 жыл бұрын
No Mutavault?
@outtatime98362 жыл бұрын
Note field of ruin is one of the few cards to FORCE a shuffle from for opponents, killing all to the top tutors
@jamesgratz47712 жыл бұрын
Garbage unplayable bro play cabal coffers broooo
@outtatime98362 жыл бұрын
@@jamesgratz4771 I am not saying it isn’t bad, but in a format dominated by tutors it is far from garbage, getting rid of a cradle while fizzling an vampiric tutor… yes the low end is ramping 2 players, but in higher end pods one extra land on turn 7 isn’t as bad as you would think
@andrewathanassopoulos5482 жыл бұрын
Where is glacial chasm?
@Ham_Strokers_Ejacula2 жыл бұрын
An amazing thing about field of ruin is you can stop your opponents from searching with something like ashiok and reap the benefits alone. That and forcing your opponent to search their library you can combo cards like archive trap for free, not to mention hitting another landfall trigger.
@slayersam12 жыл бұрын
Sadly ashiok doesn't work as ashiok only stops them search with effects or abilities they control
@Ham_Strokers_Ejacula2 жыл бұрын
@@slayersam1 you don't say..... probably why I said "something like ashiok", as opposed to "field of ruin with ashiok" 👍
@taylormilleman73372 жыл бұрын
I feel like you misplaced alchemists refuge. I agree it's a little niche, but I tend to play it in either big bomb decks, or decks that can be really explosive if they can untap with your commander. You guys misspoke a little, it enables you to cast ANY applicable nonland card from any applicable zone.
@psychotronain2 жыл бұрын
No Rishadan Port?
@domlozano19902 жыл бұрын
"Oh, Hi Mark-et"
@JajaYms2 жыл бұрын
Ever time I hear joe say card I die… caryyyrd!
@AugustAMcClung2 жыл бұрын
Karen’s bastion with Felidar Retreat, maybe throw in a Doubling Season and Parallel Lives
@jasongwinn282 жыл бұрын
High Market protects a creature from Exile effects.
@reaumwingblade57832 жыл бұрын
Eeey today's my birthday episode
@tacothursdays65462 жыл бұрын
Ya didn't have to do my boy Alchemist's Refuge dirty like that :.(
@skullkrusher-dx4kg2 жыл бұрын
I throw command light paws because she gets removed alot.
@kylebrandon96022 жыл бұрын
Homeward path with beamtown bullies
@DavidMitchells2 жыл бұрын
What about arcane lighthouse? Remove hexproof and shroud... yes please
@Atanar892 жыл бұрын
Didn't even mention Oran-Rief which is my favorite land for counter decks, unlike crappy proliferate this adds counters for 1 mana instead of 5 mana.
@pvcure13652 жыл бұрын
Tabernacle?
@NitpickingNerds2 жыл бұрын
We did most played
@zackkelley29402 жыл бұрын
Ludicrously expensive AND extremely niche, though damned good in the few that want that effect.
@jasongwinn282 жыл бұрын
I'll slot it in a tier for you. B+ in the right build, it overperforms, but for most decks, it's not needed and for the price, it's definitely unnecessary.
@akorthouwer2 жыл бұрын
hmm commander is really strong in my titania(since she brings back a land from the graveyard when she etbs), but don't use it outside of that cuz it is in ways worse then a tapland don't think I agree on the b part in most decks it's just not good enough