I Made a Board Game to Torture People

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Valefisk

Valefisk

Күн бұрын

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@android19willpwn
@android19willpwn 2 жыл бұрын
"everyone goes back to start" means that the more players there are the more impossible the game becomes
@cryst4l_clear456
@cryst4l_clear456 2 жыл бұрын
Boutta host a 25 player game
@syrusgrove8682
@syrusgrove8682 2 жыл бұрын
@@cryst4l_clear456 🎶This is the game that never ends. Yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started playing and not knowing what it was and they'll continue playing forever just becuase this is the game that never ends...🎶
@nfortyeight
@nfortyeight 2 жыл бұрын
@@syrusgrove8682 Even though i never watched that show, I understand that reference
@zixvirzjghamn737
@zixvirzjghamn737 2 жыл бұрын
@@nfortyeight what show is it
@nfortyeight
@nfortyeight 2 жыл бұрын
@@zixvirzjghamn737 search, the song that doesn’t end
@thespiffingbrit
@thespiffingbrit 2 жыл бұрын
*The hardest quest in any video game "Go Outside And Touch Grass"*
@ryank_
@ryank_ 2 жыл бұрын
truly impossible
@prodrom
@prodrom 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about this 3:33
@minihjalte
@minihjalte 2 жыл бұрын
🎩 🪳 Look! Its The Spiffing Brit!
@theswissconfederacy2136
@theswissconfederacy2136 2 жыл бұрын
Sir! Today I had many glasses of yorkshire tea!
@thespiffingbrit
@thespiffingbrit 2 жыл бұрын
@@prodrom it do be me...
@pizzaplate3846
@pizzaplate3846 2 жыл бұрын
This *desperately* needs a public release
@basiclyzang312
@basiclyzang312 Жыл бұрын
Fr tho!
@MintTheProtogen
@MintTheProtogen Жыл бұрын
I’d love to play this with friends. It’d make me go crazy, but in a good way.
@mrpayday7055
@mrpayday7055 Жыл бұрын
YES PLEASE
@DollarStoreEggman
@DollarStoreEggman Жыл бұрын
with some modifications, it would be really good.
@Flightkitten
@Flightkitten Жыл бұрын
No Please No
@captainkawaii666
@captainkawaii666 2 жыл бұрын
The only game where you have to memorize the Bible and several released CIA documents to stand a chance
@khajandes2066
@khajandes2066 2 жыл бұрын
Finally im actually useful
@FamilycrusadersAnd_The_Crew
@FamilycrusadersAnd_The_Crew 2 жыл бұрын
Remembering the bible wouldn't even help you in here.
@thewanderingmistnull2451
@thewanderingmistnull2451 2 жыл бұрын
The Bible isn't gonna help much with those questions.
@Themoonisachees
@Themoonisachees 2 жыл бұрын
don't forget about the most obscure paradox questions
@tmzilla
@tmzilla 2 жыл бұрын
the bible won't help you with deep catholic lore
@keava
@keava 2 жыл бұрын
i was really expecting "you 'win'" to just unveil an entire second board
@guncatto2625
@guncatto2625 2 жыл бұрын
Me simulater
@unknownfox3796
@unknownfox3796 2 жыл бұрын
to really win you have to not suffer, that's why it is called "you "win""
@seamusquain2706
@seamusquain2706 2 жыл бұрын
YES
@Echo-Frisk
@Echo-Frisk 2 жыл бұрын
I'ma make a copy of this board, and make more levels for this board.
@HypoValence
@HypoValence 2 жыл бұрын
Temple of Madness
@tickytickytango5634
@tickytickytango5634 2 жыл бұрын
The clown board seems like a pleasant place to be, since you don't have to draw any pain cards. For future versions of the game, make the clown board more painful.
@lucaluca3107
@lucaluca3107 Жыл бұрын
Clown board is just the Matrix
@komradblin2189
@komradblin2189 6 ай бұрын
evil incarnate
@dustin202
@dustin202 3 ай бұрын
Clowns are all about hiding the pain with humor
@pixelkamui4555
@pixelkamui4555 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm afraid it's the new deal, brought by FDR to the United States" fucking killed me
@SgtKOnyx
@SgtKOnyx 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant
@thatdudemario2403
@thatdudemario2403 2 жыл бұрын
18:48
@ENCELADUSCompositions
@ENCELADUSCompositions 2 жыл бұрын
I know, haha. I've never laughed harder in my life watching a video. In the middle of the night, no less!
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@EEEEEEEE Жыл бұрын
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@actuallyIDontExist
@actuallyIDontExist Жыл бұрын
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@MadamLava094
@MadamLava094 2 жыл бұрын
Next video: "I invented an actual honest-to-god physical torture device and locked my friends in it", followed by "building a torture device in federal prison"
@baz5042
@baz5042 2 жыл бұрын
If anything he’ll get hired by the feds to be the new warden at Gitmo.
@johnsteampunk6408
@johnsteampunk6408 2 жыл бұрын
@Anna ♪ bad timing edit: and ironic somewhat
@theangrymilitant
@theangrymilitant 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnsteampunk6408 What the hell is behind those links?
@TheLonelyBrit
@TheLonelyBrit 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't this what Michael Reeves used to make? Maybe Valefisk can get some inspiration from his videos.
@FelineBlue
@FelineBlue 2 жыл бұрын
@@theangrymilitant they're just spam bots
@ThePhantomSafetyPin
@ThePhantomSafetyPin 2 жыл бұрын
That ending killed me, you can't even flip the board to vent your frustration. You are a monster for making this game. I love you.
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@EEEEEEEE Жыл бұрын
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@ProfessionalBugLover
@ProfessionalBugLover Жыл бұрын
@@darthvader8744 sports
@actuallyIDontExist
@actuallyIDontExist Жыл бұрын
​@@ProfessionalBugLover ITS IN THE GAME
@user-pr6ed3ri2k
@user-pr6ed3ri2k Жыл бұрын
609thliker
@jax_firestorm9689
@jax_firestorm9689 2 жыл бұрын
“The fear of loss is a path to the dark side.” “They killed my wife.” Best exchange, hands down.
@The-jy3yq
@The-jy3yq 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm afraid that in your anger you have killed her."
@mxm23adregalusandmore62
@mxm23adregalusandmore62 2 жыл бұрын
45:41
@daminkon246
@daminkon246 2 жыл бұрын
@@mxm23adregalusandmore62 goat
@nymphrodellsalavin
@nymphrodellsalavin 2 жыл бұрын
They sounded like bots on Reddit. It was great 😅
@ecrosenow5194
@ecrosenow5194 Жыл бұрын
Actual real life copies when?
@Frommerman
@Frommerman 2 жыл бұрын
Secret alternative pain deck: If a player is speaking in a French accent or imitating Charles De Gaulle when they land on Pain, they get a card from an alternative deck with bread-themed, mostly positive cards.
@mantacid1221
@mantacid1221 2 жыл бұрын
Okay this is funny
@ariesdemiurge
@ariesdemiurge 2 жыл бұрын
He *was* pretty lucky irl
@smamy8861
@smamy8861 2 жыл бұрын
pain card 1: go make toast pain card 2: have a sandwich :) if you're under the conditions for pain cards and not pain cards then you're. running out of bread
@rsodrealm
@rsodrealm 2 жыл бұрын
"your baguette crumbled. go back to the last pain tile and draw from the pain deck"
@therealchaosguy
@therealchaosguy 2 жыл бұрын
“If bread in french is pain, then I own a fucking bakery” -Literally pick anyone in this video
@goldenbunnies4143
@goldenbunnies4143 Жыл бұрын
‘Groog want egg” “Courage is found in unlikely places” “Richard?” “Neigh neigh” “Grooog” It is indeed a fucking disaster
@actuallyIDontExist
@actuallyIDontExist Жыл бұрын
Yeah that's right Richard, care I do not CLICK CLOCK CLICK CLOCK
@050_WeiXian
@050_WeiXian 8 ай бұрын
34:21
@yoyogre
@yoyogre 2 жыл бұрын
I just thought of a way to make the "everyone go back" card less painful, yet more chaotic. Add an option in the shop to remove that card from the draw pile and put it in the discard pile. If the players don't want this card drawn, someone will have to pay for it every-time the draw pile is remade. Which means, it becomes an interesting variant of the prisoner dilemma, wherein each player has the option of spending their precious money on this, or be greedy and hope someone else pay for it.
@magiv4205
@magiv4205 2 жыл бұрын
That's an amazing idea hahaha
@laniaki463
@laniaki463 2 жыл бұрын
even worse: add an option to pay to add it back into the draw pile someone loosing horrendous can now bring everyone else down with them, sowing discord and chaos.
@minehermit
@minehermit 2 жыл бұрын
@@laniaki463 oh god, you are a mad man
@Your_mom513
@Your_mom513 2 жыл бұрын
@@laniaki463 R/Madlads
@josephvictory9536
@josephvictory9536 2 жыл бұрын
@@laniaki463 Even better if you make it cheap to put back. Like $1 dollar cheap.
@Tmanowns
@Tmanowns 2 жыл бұрын
"She couldn't stay your little girl forever, Jim. Beep beep." My sides.
@Nothing-1w3
@Nothing-1w3 2 жыл бұрын
"Richard"
@px1_
@px1_ 2 жыл бұрын
“They killed my wife”
@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120
@lelagrangeeffectphysics4120 2 жыл бұрын
COPE-LAND COPE-LAND COPE-LAND
@Emerald29
@Emerald29 2 жыл бұрын
ㅤㅤㅤ
@basicallytoxic
@basicallytoxic 2 жыл бұрын
That JUST happened in the video as I read the comment
@toaferon1822
@toaferon1822 2 жыл бұрын
I wanted to play this with my friends the other day and the moment I saw it wasn't on the workshop CRUSHED me. I so wanted to introduce them to the chaos on display here
@BierBart12
@BierBart12 Жыл бұрын
It's so sad that it has been retroactively added to the Geneva Convention in its fifth and final amendment
@pedejo
@pedejo 2 жыл бұрын
Very sad Vale cut out my defence of libertarianism in French when I was Charles De Gaulle
@tankbuster626
@tankbuster626 2 жыл бұрын
Convince him to give you the clip so that it can be shared
@namethathasntbeentakenyetm3682
@namethathasntbeentakenyetm3682 2 жыл бұрын
French is basically gibberish and we already heard the defence in gibberish.
@ericdillingham7843
@ericdillingham7843 2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely need a clip of this. j’aime la pensée de la tête français pendant la Seconde Guerre mondiale défendant le libertarianisme
@thilsiktonix
@thilsiktonix 2 жыл бұрын
LOL
@trashkitty8736
@trashkitty8736 2 жыл бұрын
Lmao
@elderberryva9282
@elderberryva9282 2 жыл бұрын
“For you see, Young Skywalker, I have 1 Gregor Samsa buck in my possession” I’m framing this
@elgordobondiola
@elgordobondiola Жыл бұрын
They killed my wife
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@alexandersean4708
@alexandersean4708 Жыл бұрын
Copeland.
@actuallyIDontExist
@actuallyIDontExist Жыл бұрын
@@alexandersean4708 yea that's right Richard I don't care
@shoukokomi6419
@shoukokomi6419 Жыл бұрын
35:52
@lnorlnor
@lnorlnor 2 жыл бұрын
The [redacted] deck is probably the funniest thing I've seen in years. Every single card was pure gold. I would like a copy.
@dank_smirk2ndchannel200
@dank_smirk2ndchannel200 2 жыл бұрын
Considering that the "Win" in "You "Win"" was in quotations I thought if you land on it there was gonna be a card that said something like: "You realize that it's the journey, not the destination that matters. Go back to start". Considering that the last game Vale made was unbeatable, I’m surprised that this one was beatable. He was so merciful.
@kaiseremotion854
@kaiseremotion854 2 жыл бұрын
instead of going back to start, it makes you go to a mirrored version of the board.
@blarghmoment1825
@blarghmoment1825 2 жыл бұрын
It should just reveal a whole second board even worse than the first
@RealCoolstriker64
@RealCoolstriker64 2 жыл бұрын
Technically, it wasn’t. Because he had to take a card out of circulation for them to ACTUALLY progress
@dylantucker5374
@dylantucker5374 2 жыл бұрын
@@RealCoolstriker64 oh God. Imagine if the card he removed is what the O.C was proposing... That would just be cruel.
@Jaydee-wd7wr
@Jaydee-wd7wr 2 жыл бұрын
@@kaiseremotion854, It’s just Castlevania.
@laurenceperkins7468
@laurenceperkins7468 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with the "everyone goes back to start" card was the number of players you had. Increasing the players rattled through the deck faster than in your testing, so there wasn't enough time between resets. It makes the winning strategy just enduring the pain and aiming to collect up enough cash to buy victory.
@Udle101
@Udle101 2 жыл бұрын
Ah capitalism
@binguloid
@binguloid 2 жыл бұрын
@@Udle101 not exactly
@AP-uc7oz
@AP-uc7oz 2 жыл бұрын
@@binguloid pay to win
@sxlproductions
@sxlproductions 2 жыл бұрын
So....what you are saying is that his toture method is unintentionally better then expected
@theendersmirk5851
@theendersmirk5851 2 жыл бұрын
@@binguloid actually, pretty much exactly capitalism. The only difference is this one was deliberately designed to be unnecessary torture, while the only reason Capitalism is like that is due to humans *really* hating actually fixing their systems when upgrades become available IRL. They're fine with pointlessly trying to find ways to persecute each other though, but that's neither here nor there, although it might be a good add on for Vale's next game.
@PacmanZoomPZ
@PacmanZoomPZ Жыл бұрын
“Charles deGaul is right between General Grevieous and Patrick Bateman” laughed so hard at that
@HoffayStudios35
@HoffayStudios35 2 жыл бұрын
I genuinely want to play this game with my friends but it would be absolutely fucking unplayable because of all the inside jokes and references that none of us would get
@AbsolXGuardian
@AbsolXGuardian 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like the distrubtion version of this game is one with "[insert in-joke here]" for the game master to fill in and the table top simulator tutorials valefisk used.
@kosherkingofisrael6381
@kosherkingofisrael6381 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta customize your own board for the friend group.
@MiriadCalibrumAstar
@MiriadCalibrumAstar 2 жыл бұрын
if it doesn't exist, make it yourself.
@therealpotsmoan593
@therealpotsmoan593 2 жыл бұрын
it's also mathematically impossible to win
@hardlyanydiggity3953
@hardlyanydiggity3953 2 жыл бұрын
make your own
@flipflopzthreeonethree1873
@flipflopzthreeonethree1873 2 жыл бұрын
I love how every so often we just get a sad "they killed my wife" for no apparent reason. Also, Gregor Samsa Bucks made me laugh way too hard
@xyz3524
@xyz3524 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't kill my wife.
@gentlemanmadness607
@gentlemanmadness607 2 жыл бұрын
What was worse was that there was 2 of them and not once in this video did the other say "I don't care" when the other said "I didn't kill my wife."
@MiroslavBarzashki
@MiroslavBarzashki 2 жыл бұрын
@@xyz3524 I knew it was Richard all along. He's the one who did it
@xdarin_
@xdarin_ 2 жыл бұрын
"Now, I am not a cruel man" I love how he keeps repeating this line, knowing nobody will believe him
@Zanthosus
@Zanthosus 2 жыл бұрын
"You have no money. Too bad. You remain as Star Wars Shrek making car noises." I love this channel.
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@actuallyIDontExist
@actuallyIDontExist Жыл бұрын
I have a bad feeling about this VROOM KACHOW
@ProfessionalBugLover
@ProfessionalBugLover Жыл бұрын
@@actuallyIDontExist get out of my parking garage
@actuallyIDontExist
@actuallyIDontExist Жыл бұрын
@@ProfessionalBugLover no
@plaguenplay3516
@plaguenplay3516 Жыл бұрын
That's the future capitalists want lmao
@TheGuyBehindYou
@TheGuyBehindYou 2 жыл бұрын
Here’s an idea for a pain card: Set a timer for an hour, and if the game hasn’t ended when it goes off, everybody goes back to start.
@rafaelmarkos4489
@rafaelmarkos4489 2 жыл бұрын
Given the number of back to start conditions, I think it might be unnecessary.
@TheGuyBehindYou
@TheGuyBehindYou 2 жыл бұрын
@@rafaelmarkos4489 Yes but with this one the pain isn't instant. You have to live with the existential dread that it doesn't matter how much progress you’re making, as unless you finish the game, everything you worked for is gonna be gone.
@user-leet37598
@user-leet37598 2 жыл бұрын
To make it a bit more fun, whenever you grab it again, the timer extends just a bit, so people would have to through the pain (lol) faster in order to have a chance at this
@vulkarma741
@vulkarma741 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-leet37598 yea give them 1 extra minute each time they pick it up
@otherlego
@otherlego 2 жыл бұрын
@@vulkarma741 nah 1 whole hour
@asura3695
@asura3695 Жыл бұрын
the most torturous part of this game is that it's crossed beyond the barrier of the video and affects the viewer because we can't play the game for ourselves. truly the most torturous part of the game
@weirdtyrant6274
@weirdtyrant6274 2 жыл бұрын
I love how the guy who got Joe Biden just did a Senator Armstrong impression instead and everybody went with it. Edit: Hey KZbin, it would have been nice to know that editing my comment to correct a typo would have deleted the heart that Valefisk gave me before I did so.
@orangetabby7122
@orangetabby7122 2 жыл бұрын
But as for now, our protagonist Raiden with Biden
@janehrahan5116
@janehrahan5116 2 жыл бұрын
What are you talking about, thats clearly biden.
@JustAJosuke
@JustAJosuke 2 жыл бұрын
@@orangetabby7122 Joe Raiden.
@breckhodges3177
@breckhodges3177 2 жыл бұрын
That was closer to a macho man impression than Armstrong
@Clarity_Control
@Clarity_Control 2 жыл бұрын
@@breckhodges3177 What’s the difference?
@shamsquatch9980
@shamsquatch9980 2 жыл бұрын
Next Valefisk video: "I Invented A New Torture Device To Torture My Friends"
@Valefisk
@Valefisk 2 жыл бұрын
sensing a pattern here yet?
@connorkolodziej1879
@connorkolodziej1879 2 жыл бұрын
I Put My Friends In An IRL Saw Trap For $10,000! (Not Clickbait)
@tacticalnuke5673
@tacticalnuke5673 2 жыл бұрын
"Myself included."
@boomstick7506
@boomstick7506 2 жыл бұрын
@@Valefisk make a crypt sequel that only changes the color with one more puzzle, and claim you completely overhauled the game for your next victims
@Apgl257
@Apgl257 2 жыл бұрын
Are they even friends at this point?
@jakeking974
@jakeking974 Жыл бұрын
To be fair, if Vale DID play, imagine him trying to GM while being an Italian Shrek who can only quote Lord of the Rings. Yeah, it would be an actual nightmare.
@SoewoeMoloko
@SoewoeMoloko 2 жыл бұрын
I love how seemingly half of the cards force players to speak in quotes, add random noises to sentences or just straight up gibberish. It's the tower of Babel all over again
@duftx
@duftx 2 жыл бұрын
Соя имба
@thesalad943
@thesalad943 2 жыл бұрын
@@duftx this goes hard
@duftx
@duftx 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesalad943 im cryin and shakin rn
@telescopesfs-officialchann3897
@telescopesfs-officialchann3897 2 жыл бұрын
@@duftx Вареная фасоль
@RAFMnBgaming
@RAFMnBgaming 2 жыл бұрын
Valefisk at the start of the year: "I've decided I want to become a youtuber full time" Valefisk in the middle of the year: "Scratch that, I want to become a torturer full time"
@KnowledgePerformance7
@KnowledgePerformance7 2 жыл бұрын
The perfect arc
@puppergump4117
@puppergump4117 Жыл бұрын
Torture is like fun, except with fun more than one person is happy
@Mr.Mayhem602
@Mr.Mayhem602 8 ай бұрын
Just add checkpoints that count as “start” when passed as a way to counter go back to start being drawn so many times, that way you get both the pain of going back to start every hour but you also have a better chance to finish the game before the heat death of the universe 😂
@Zeppe2
@Zeppe2 2 жыл бұрын
11:03 The hell I actually would've know the answer to that question. Since I'm a Finn, my dad has told me about the Winter War between Finland and Russia in 1939. Afte the war, Finland agreed to pay war indemnities to Russia. For some reason, I would always remember quite precisely the details about the payment. This included over 100 ships and huge amounts of timber, forestry and metal industry products. Frying pans for example. All this would amount to over 300 million US dollars, which when converted to Russian rubles, will amount to roughly 17,5 billion rubles.
@robertdolcetti450
@robertdolcetti450 2 жыл бұрын
17.5 billion back then or now? That’s cool though.
@Zeppe2
@Zeppe2 2 жыл бұрын
@@robertdolcetti450 Back then I'm assuming.
@airplanemaniacgaming7877
@airplanemaniacgaming7877 2 жыл бұрын
Finland is such a neat country, not to mention the great legends who rose from that time. Simo Hayha, and Lauri Taurni. The White Death, and The Traveling Hero (that's what I call Lauri Taurni, considering his history.)
@Zeppe2
@Zeppe2 2 жыл бұрын
@@airplanemaniacgaming7877 I'm glad to see someone who is well informed on Finlands history
@airplanemaniacgaming7877
@airplanemaniacgaming7877 2 жыл бұрын
@@Zeppe2 I learned of both thanks to a certain Swedish metal band with historically themed lyrics. That also just so happens to have gotten a holy artifact from the Church of Poland. Delivered by the Archbishop of said Church himself at a concert.
@airwalker0676
@airwalker0676 2 жыл бұрын
It's crazy because if they actually worked together they would be finished by the 3 hour mark. But for some reason winning an arbitrary game was too appealing
@timothymclean
@timothymclean 2 жыл бұрын
I think part of the problem was that it took a few hours to figure out how they needed to work together. I wouldn't have thought that there was a way _to_ work together until after the "Everyone goes back to the start, lol" card was mentioned...
@brionesjohnelvin4949
@brionesjohnelvin4949 2 жыл бұрын
@@timothymclean to
@WisteriAvis
@WisteriAvis 2 жыл бұрын
I only thought if one player can give money to another, everyone just need to save $100 together
@coconoisette
@coconoisette 2 жыл бұрын
How can they work together?
@airwalker0676
@airwalker0676 2 жыл бұрын
@@coconoisette if they agree have one person go forward and everyone else always choose "return to start" it would minimize the chance of return to start appearing
@stargazer_and_co
@stargazer_and_co 8 ай бұрын
How to make it even better: First to win wins, but the game is only beat once _all_ players reach win. ~Darkstalker
@mjf69
@mjf69 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like the key is to nominate one person as the savior, and then get everyone else stuck on clown boards just going in loops so they can't land on pain spots and reset.
@lint9305
@lint9305 2 жыл бұрын
when are you coming back to dynamite max
@pirig-gal
@pirig-gal 2 жыл бұрын
The meta is forming...
@redeye4516
@redeye4516 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, Christianity
@kellynolen498
@kellynolen498 2 жыл бұрын
yeah because theres a pain card that send everyone back to start so you cant win if there are too many players they eat through the cards and send everyone back alternative tactic is everyone conspires to spend all there money sending them back so they can stay near the money tiles near the start
@wfchannel4673
@wfchannel4673 2 жыл бұрын
kinda feels like the best strategy is to just endure the negative effects as much as possible and just quietly roll for money until you have $100 to pay to win the game.
@riptideanomy1024
@riptideanomy1024 2 жыл бұрын
Without context, "They killed my wife." is so out of left field and it's hilarious
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@lonelyincorporated1583
@lonelyincorporated1583 Жыл бұрын
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@dewfeather8209
@dewfeather8209 Жыл бұрын
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@alexandersean4708
@alexandersean4708 Жыл бұрын
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@actuallyIDontExist
@actuallyIDontExist Жыл бұрын
@@alexandersean4708 E
@TheGriever
@TheGriever 2 жыл бұрын
Actually the only way to win quickly is to draw the "dementia card" and claim you already won.
@binaryalgorithm
@binaryalgorithm 2 жыл бұрын
I like how she says "I took a painkiller" after all these Pain cards. Also, this seems like an excellent game for a bunch of drunks friends to play.
@The-jy3yq
@The-jy3yq 2 жыл бұрын
I fear for the physical safety of your face or your computer and it's accessories nay, I say, to the proposed statement
@The-jy3yq
@The-jy3yq 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rekkuza-eu6sp *WOLOLO*
@Ardorstorm
@Ardorstorm 2 жыл бұрын
@@Rekkuza-eu6sp somebody drew the Catholicism card
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@victorleoncio1079
@victorleoncio1079 Жыл бұрын
Except if you have a severely hungover friend and said person has to do ten push-ups or go back to the start
@timeenoughatlast3368
@timeenoughatlast3368 2 жыл бұрын
Vale. My god Vale I know what must be done. What game allows for more gaslighting and bullshit than any other? Thats right, a TTRPG dungeon crawl. Build the single most hellish Dungeon imaginable and force them to fight through it. Even better, pitch different genres and styles of games to all your players so they each come with the most disjointed, out of place character possible.
@gentleshark972
@gentleshark972 2 жыл бұрын
YES
@pastoralpaul1002
@pastoralpaul1002 2 жыл бұрын
Yyyyyseeeeee
@timeenoughatlast3368
@timeenoughatlast3368 2 жыл бұрын
My personal favourite trap suggestion. You allow the players to observe a 31ft long corridor. At the end of this corridor is a corner turn leading to an indestructible, locked door. At the start of the corridor is a trap warning, crushing plates of instant death for anyone who steps into the corridor, but they only trigger 50% of the time. No tricks. No skills or ways out of it. Just a 50/50 chance of death every time you cross the corridor. But what about the locked door you ask? Well, scrawled in black chalk are nordic symbols which correctly translate to "the key is hidden behind the sign." The players are then forced to possibly cross back over just to get the key, then again to unlock the door. Which would then turn out to be a dead end
@veszimardalath9739
@veszimardalath9739 2 жыл бұрын
@@timeenoughatlast3368 And just a cherry, have the germanic runic alphabets be mixed up and all written as bindrunes, to make translation that much more difficult- but in reality the sign has a decorative border that is actually secret instructions in Ogham of how to find a series of buttons in the corridor you have to press in an order, only to do nothing
@timeenoughatlast3368
@timeenoughatlast3368 2 жыл бұрын
@@veszimardalath9739 genius inclusion!
@thespudbud2351
@thespudbud2351 Жыл бұрын
This is my first and favorite Valefisk video. Whenever I feel sad, or sick, or bored, or need something as background noise, this is one of the videos I always come back to. Thank you, Valefisk, for bringing me joy through the torment of your friends. I only wish I could be this problematic while keeping my friends and sanity. Truly, you are a role model I will look up to for years to come. XD
@CPU9incarnate
@CPU9incarnate 2 жыл бұрын
"Cocolate" is probably due to bad OCR when scanning a printed document directly to PDF. That is why many legal documents online have spelling errors, they're typically printed out in a serif font like Times New Roman where some of the details are hard to parse by the software.
@stargate525
@stargate525 2 жыл бұрын
Because I'm a huge nerd I actually looked up the document. The official one doesn't have the spelling error. Also the actual recipes are about 1 page long. The rest is a lot of very specific anti-'there ain't no rule' legalese about the quality of the ingredients, the way they want it packaged, and the way they're going to inspect the final product.
@thewanderingmistnull2451
@thewanderingmistnull2451 6 ай бұрын
Serif fonts would make things _easier_ to parse. Letters look more different from each other.
@Blackslayter
@Blackslayter 2 жыл бұрын
I'd unironically like to play this with my friends myself. Maybe with alcohol involved. And me running the game rather than playing. And, probably even more alcohol.
@january0th
@january0th 2 жыл бұрын
Play the imposible game he mentions at the begining of the video to get a taste of it
@lebendigesgespenst7669
@lebendigesgespenst7669 2 жыл бұрын
Same
@jakebluestein4542
@jakebluestein4542 2 жыл бұрын
Drink every time you get went back to the start.
@LEGOALEX97
@LEGOALEX97 2 жыл бұрын
I’d say make it yourself so you can tailor the torture to your friends
@MrTacoKing-1
@MrTacoKing-1 2 жыл бұрын
satan has lost his job to you
@tweekkat
@tweekkat 2 жыл бұрын
I can't imagine the confusion somebody watching with the sound off would've experienced seeing "they killed my wife" keep popping up. This game seems like the best and worst time of someone's life simultaneously
@betteradversary1606
@betteradversary1606 2 жыл бұрын
when the "make a defence for anarcho-primitivism" card came up, I was honestly expecting him to just pull up the Unabomber's Manifesto
@beybladeguru101
@beybladeguru101 2 жыл бұрын
Ooga booga grug think industrial revolution consequences been disaster to grugan race.
@felicityc
@felicityc 2 жыл бұрын
return to monke
@puppergump4117
@puppergump4117 Жыл бұрын
Not much of a defense then
@somegem6344
@somegem6344 2 жыл бұрын
"Please let this be a normal game" "With Valefisk? No way!"
@heartysquid
@heartysquid 2 жыл бұрын
Magic school's theme begins playing but its earrape.
@DoritosAndMountainDew
@DoritosAndMountainDew 2 жыл бұрын
C R U I S I N O N D O W N M A I N S T R E E T
@blarghmoment1825
@blarghmoment1825 2 жыл бұрын
Cruisin on down pain street
@johncameron1935
@johncameron1935 2 жыл бұрын
Cruisin' on down pain street I am not a cru-el man Next thing that you know, it's... Everyone go back to start :)
@O5-7
@O5-7 2 жыл бұрын
@@DoritosAndMountainDew relaxed and feelin good
@lord_azazel001
@lord_azazel001 2 жыл бұрын
I love that, even though he is in agony, Vale still commits to the dumb trick questions on the Paradox Quiz Show.
@GalacticNerd
@GalacticNerd 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who still has 2048 installed on their phone from when that was popular, and still plays it regularly. That 2048 card is brutal, there are a few strategies for the game but an immense part of it is just luck of where the next number spawns, and all it takes is one bad spawn to end a run.
@afonsomartins6311
@afonsomartins6311 2 жыл бұрын
2048 lore
@hankglidden1463
@hankglidden1463 2 жыл бұрын
If you know what you're doing you can get 2048 basically every time. 4096 too, 8192 is alot harder
@suburbanshrub6675
@suburbanshrub6675 2 жыл бұрын
@@hankglidden1463 yeah idk what this guy is talking about, i can get 2048 probably 80% consistently and when i dont its typically human error
@mrsneeze903
@mrsneeze903 2 жыл бұрын
@@suburbanshrub6675 same this was legit like the only 'challenge' i could do without ripping my hair out.... god forbid i get chess cause i don't know how to play my uncle tried teaching me a few times and that went horribly....
@frostyclouded
@frostyclouded 2 жыл бұрын
it is fairly luck based but as someone who's played it for maybe six years or so, as soon as i got my first 2048 it somehow instantly became easier to me. bad luck can kill a run or at least make it a lot more inconvenient but if you know how to adapt your strategy a little then it's not usually a big deal. imo the worst part about the 2048 card is just that it can take like a good 10 minutes to actually win a game but i guess with how much they were fucking about that isn't too long lmfao
@princeamongkings343
@princeamongkings343 2 жыл бұрын
At 18:00 - idea for a modification to the game: Make certain negative effects be contagious, so that if someone lands on the same space as another it can get passed to them too.
@firekirby123
@firekirby123 2 жыл бұрын
This would also make the Pain deck get progressively larger as copies of the cards get sent to the discard when removed or replaced, making the game more viable with larger player amounts without removing the "everyone return to start" card from play. Not a bad idea at all.
@5atemir335
@5atemir335 2 жыл бұрын
the fact that at 51:24 we can see it landing on Palpatine instead of Gunray is just awesome
@weegee_666
@weegee_666 2 жыл бұрын
naming suggestion: the game of purgatory anyway, please make this puplicly available in the workshop and if you do please add a feature that lets you add your own prompts. that would be so awesome
@FaustY2K
@FaustY2K 2 жыл бұрын
And if you follow the Pope on Twitter the game gets shorter ;)
@sev1120
@sev1120 2 жыл бұрын
@@FaustY2K If you successful run for president of the united states you get to move forward one space
@1th_to_comment.
@1th_to_comment. 2 жыл бұрын
or just: purgatory
@Erthradar
@Erthradar 2 жыл бұрын
This is keeps hitting harder and harder. I didn't think we were going to get Senator Armstrong from memory that late in the game.
@LaggySnake
@LaggySnake 2 жыл бұрын
"Nanomachines, son" - Joe Biden
@betteradversary1606
@betteradversary1606 2 жыл бұрын
"Tremendously based Joe Biden" is a phrase I never thought I would hear edit: fixed the quote
@girlwarriorx5536
@girlwarriorx5536 2 жыл бұрын
This is like a Sadist being given the tools to create Calvin Ball and I am *all here for it*
@Fireluigi1225
@Fireluigi1225 2 жыл бұрын
"I am not a cruel man" - person who made an awful geoguesser tournament
@grukmccrymyselftoosleep7098
@grukmccrymyselftoosleep7098 2 жыл бұрын
That’s because cruel doesn’t begin to describe them
@ivorymantis1026
@ivorymantis1026 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone recall that old story about the knight that plays chess with the grim reaper to try and extend his life? Imagine if the knight pulled this b++++++t out.
@bittersweet4487
@bittersweet4487 2 жыл бұрын
Infinite life
@kirbywithlegs98
@kirbywithlegs98 2 жыл бұрын
Oooooo bullshit spooky
@ivorymantis1026
@ivorymantis1026 2 жыл бұрын
@@kirbywithlegs98 My comments with swearing get hidden by KZbin more often, and little experiments like this show me how often comments are shadow banned.
@juliewinchester1488
@juliewinchester1488 2 жыл бұрын
@@ivorymantis1026 wait is this real? Wtf
@ivorymantis1026
@ivorymantis1026 2 жыл бұрын
@@juliewinchester1488 Try it yourself. Make a comment where you would normally swear then make a comment where you don't swear. Big tech has always restricted speech, they can't help it; it's in their nature.
@-Raylight
@-Raylight 2 жыл бұрын
*"I'm not a cruel man"* _Press X to doubt_ Finally a board game that can torture the boys 😂
@feldbiss6417
@feldbiss6417 2 жыл бұрын
as he said that the insane monopoly video popped up on the i button, comedic gold I tell you
@shoda9939
@shoda9939 2 жыл бұрын
Raylight
@dominusvolpus8031
@dominusvolpus8031 2 жыл бұрын
Oh, I heard I'm not a cool man....
@aylenpons6682
@aylenpons6682 2 жыл бұрын
I casually heard that line half a second after reading your comment. *X files music.
@thetruegoldenknight
@thetruegoldenknight 2 жыл бұрын
Plus tortures the girls (Do 10 push-ups while suffering from a hangover).
@jighardy
@jighardy 2 жыл бұрын
I'm just impressed you have friends that would actually be willing to try to play such a game
@gentlemanmadness607
@gentlemanmadness607 2 жыл бұрын
Not anymore
@ericpayne9091
@ericpayne9091 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously, I'd love to i give this a go, but my friends would 100% quit after like five minutes
@caseyelworthy2759
@caseyelworthy2759 2 жыл бұрын
I love how it didn't matter who won at the end; everyone was just glad it had ended! That's how you know it's a quality game! 😆
@janehrahan5116
@janehrahan5116 Жыл бұрын
Its a feature shared by only the very best, and very worst games.
@specialism640
@specialism640 2 жыл бұрын
This guy just took the “ruins friendship” aspect of every board game and made it into a board game
@LinkCrab
@LinkCrab 2 жыл бұрын
The real question is how in the hell you find such amazing military pdfs. I'm putting together my own game inspired by yours to torture my friends, and I can't find any for the life of me.
@itstherealbrace6424
@itstherealbrace6424 2 жыл бұрын
File a request under the FOIA from either the FBI or cia
@namelastname6884
@namelastname6884 2 жыл бұрын
r/warthunder
@tevildo9383
@tevildo9383 2 жыл бұрын
Wikileaks
@prerakgames4668
@prerakgames4668 2 жыл бұрын
That's the neat part, you don't!
@prerakgames4668
@prerakgames4668 2 жыл бұрын
Also, he made his own military pdfs. He wants to torture people like you, so he made his own.
@ricecooker7037
@ricecooker7037 Жыл бұрын
The only person to make his friends choose to live in purgatory (the clown board) instead of exist in the agony that is Vales presence.
@Kozmokast
@Kozmokast 2 жыл бұрын
“Using shift with your thumb” just unlocked a core memory of mine about some fucking freak in a streamer discord I was in who was convinced that using your keyboard like that was was completely natural and normal, and the dude had like a 4 inch long thumb and thought everyone else was crazy.
@aeldariambitions6334
@aeldariambitions6334 2 жыл бұрын
Which Shift key?? Did he reach all the way from his mouse to RS, or from WASD to RS?
@ivgorm9365
@ivgorm9365 2 жыл бұрын
I have a friend who does that and it drives me up the fucking wall
@jasmineHeartTech
@jasmineHeartTech 2 жыл бұрын
Mumbo Jumbo?
@sleepingguard01
@sleepingguard01 2 жыл бұрын
i also thought mumbo jumbo lol
@randomfurrygirl548
@randomfurrygirl548 Жыл бұрын
Thats how I used to use the shift key all the time, since using my pinky was rather uncomfortable
@blu3113
@blu3113 2 жыл бұрын
32:34 "make a defence for libertarianism in gibberish" is perhaps the best thing I have ever heard
@mkgaca8721
@mkgaca8721 Жыл бұрын
im sick af and i read that as librarian :(
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@gabrielledrake9218
@gabrielledrake9218 Жыл бұрын
I was crying laughing
@actuallyIDontExist
@actuallyIDontExist Жыл бұрын
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@wildmaknae_
@wildmaknae_ Жыл бұрын
I'm so curious who was dying laughing during that segment x)
@eritsia
@eritsia 7 ай бұрын
i rewatch this video a lot, and “ich ben ein turn” makes me YELP I HATE IT
@gwainexe9065
@gwainexe9065 2 жыл бұрын
PLEASE make this a mod for tabletop simulator, have everything included when you launch it up, as well as a rule book so players aren't confused.
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@johannesviljoen9656
@johannesviljoen9656 Жыл бұрын
It IS a tabletop sim mod thpugh
@nikolaki0754
@nikolaki0754 Жыл бұрын
@@johannesviljoen9656 how is it called?
@ImGamingNow2010
@ImGamingNow2010 Жыл бұрын
@@johannesviljoen9656 What is it called in the workshop? I can't find it.
@Hollowed_Trinity
@Hollowed_Trinity Жыл бұрын
@@johannesviljoen9656 what is it called.
@acer8123
@acer8123 2 жыл бұрын
"Go outside and touch grass" Me who lives in a house where the front and back yards are concrete and bricks and the nearest park is a 30 minute walk away
@andre1dewilbert
@andre1dewilbert 2 жыл бұрын
bro what the hell thats just fucked up
@thewanderingmistnull2451
@thewanderingmistnull2451 2 жыл бұрын
Better get walking.
@bigbird4481
@bigbird4481 2 жыл бұрын
You need a planter that just has grass growing in it
@ryanferrel3646
@ryanferrel3646 Жыл бұрын
Sounds like a prison
@CapnCoconuts
@CapnCoconuts Жыл бұрын
Get a corn cob and bring it outside. Corn is technically a grass. Any true cereal grain will do, really.
@KingBanjo1217
@KingBanjo1217 Жыл бұрын
31:26 Chamber’s ping is 999. I don’t care what you say, that’s impressive.
@elijahingram6477
@elijahingram6477 2 жыл бұрын
The easy solution is to make the "everyone goes back to start" card a single-use card
@gingerinajacket8519
@gingerinajacket8519 2 жыл бұрын
A single use card that is thrown in on the 2nd or 3rd pass of the cards, otherwise it loses its luster.
@murpledeer
@murpledeer 2 жыл бұрын
He should add another deck with single use cards that just have the most cruel punishments possible
@Snake3991
@Snake3991 2 жыл бұрын
The fact I sat here for about an hour watching “ they killed my wife “ is astonishing
@Korvaxis
@Korvaxis Жыл бұрын
I love going home and eating some MIL-C-4407C while sipping some MIL-J-35049E with the boys.
@penguingamer8832
@penguingamer8832 2 жыл бұрын
I made a board game that was also hell for a middle school project. It was a mix of monopoly and the Oregon trail. It was based off of a book called “a long walk to water” so I appropriately named it “a long game to water”
@messydeskproductions4159
@messydeskproductions4159 Жыл бұрын
Lord. Having read that book I can only imagine how bad that would be
@RepublicOfChebokstan
@RepublicOfChebokstan Жыл бұрын
I've read that book
@greenkitty1
@greenkitty1 Жыл бұрын
What did you make with that?
@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic563
@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic563 Жыл бұрын
i can only assume you've killed 3 men by now
@totallynotcass7732
@totallynotcass7732 2 жыл бұрын
This feels like an AI generated this game and just had a stack overflow 2 seconds in
@YoutubeCommonman_Totas
@YoutubeCommonman_Totas Жыл бұрын
"For you see young Skywalker, I have one Gregor samsa buck in my possession."
@dontshootmex5588
@dontshootmex5588 2 жыл бұрын
At this point I'm fully convinced Vale is a direct descendant of Marquis de Sade
@Pundae
@Pundae 2 жыл бұрын
my money is on Phalaris of acragas
@wrenkozlowski8362
@wrenkozlowski8362 2 жыл бұрын
Truly this is just the board game adaptation of 120 days of Sodom
@atomicalee6347
@atomicalee6347 2 жыл бұрын
Next video is simply going to be “I tortured my friends” and it’s just Vale forcing his friends to go through SAS training
@stetson_newsie2600
@stetson_newsie2600 2 жыл бұрын
Serial Attached SCSI
@FFKonoko
@FFKonoko 2 жыл бұрын
ah, even more push ups
@dodojesus4529
@dodojesus4529 2 жыл бұрын
But it only ends when everyone is dead
@dodojesus4529
@dodojesus4529 2 жыл бұрын
Also they only get to drink alcohol
@VoidRift
@VoidRift 2 жыл бұрын
What if instead of removing the "everyone back to start" card after some time, certain spaces were outlined and if you're in one of those you get to stay there? perhaps the final loop could be fully protected, or maybe all but one, and in general they're sorta like chance checkpoints randomly scattered across the board
@alfiehutchinson1030
@alfiehutchinson1030 Жыл бұрын
you get reset to these chechpoints instead of back to the start
@SASQUATCHWithATophat
@SASQUATCHWithATophat Жыл бұрын
but if that were to happen then i would get rid of that cards entire purpose sure people would go back to start but not everyone like the card says and we gotta follow the rules now trust me its better this way
@luk4aaaa
@luk4aaaa 2 жыл бұрын
I think playtesting the game on 3(4?) people with a card that sends everyone back to the start and then playing it with like 12 might have been the imbalance here
@catthatlooksatyoufunny7377
@catthatlooksatyoufunny7377 2 жыл бұрын
"I'm not a cruel man" and other hilarious jokes you can tell to your friends
@blacklight683
@blacklight683 Жыл бұрын
10:10 (*casually pulls out redacted CIA documents*)
@DofusLK
@DofusLK 2 жыл бұрын
This gotta be my favorite toture channel, i'm surprised youtube hasn't shut you down yet for war crimes against your friends.
@thecatalyst6212
@thecatalyst6212 2 жыл бұрын
joe?
@elonwhatever
@elonwhatever 2 жыл бұрын
They keep showing up for more, so it must be their kink
@DargorShepard
@DargorShepard 2 жыл бұрын
Armstrong?
@MrTacoKing-1
@MrTacoKing-1 2 жыл бұрын
torture
@furrygaesex
@furrygaesex 2 жыл бұрын
Grizzy be like: am black
@justadude450
@justadude450 2 жыл бұрын
I honestly really like the "You can only speak in movie quotes" cards
@macnbac3476
@macnbac3476 Жыл бұрын
Everybody gangsta till valefisk whips out the pdfs
@felixd8665
@felixd8665 2 жыл бұрын
Noticed "WIN" was in quotes. I hope this follows through to your next torture video where the winner gets some special "privilege"
@ari1758
@ari1758 2 жыл бұрын
@Dont Check My About Page Link is not important
@tanker00v25
@tanker00v25 2 жыл бұрын
@@ari1758 *loads ak*
@jeanremi8384
@jeanremi8384 2 жыл бұрын
@Dont Check My About Page Link ok, i wont
@thegamefur7330
@thegamefur7330 2 жыл бұрын
9:56 at this moment the game started feeling morr like a SAW movie than a funny pain game 'Im not a cruel man, i will give you the means to find out this question, you have 60 seconds on the timer to discover which CIA document is tue anwser'
@emred4653
@emred4653 Жыл бұрын
27:30 debut of "they killed my wife"
@X-SPONGED
@X-SPONGED 2 жыл бұрын
Vale : "So now Novel is an Old Man, a Horse, and is speaking in LoTR Quotes" [32:13] Novel : "At this point can I just be fucking Gandalf, **neigh** :(" _My Asthmatic Lungs were not ready for that..._
@dracothewarrior4316
@dracothewarrior4316 2 жыл бұрын
It was the Star Wars Shrek car that did me in
@spookr5770
@spookr5770 2 жыл бұрын
This has showed me that, truly, anyone can make a board game, and has inspired me to start making one myself
@actuallyIDontExist
@actuallyIDontExist Жыл бұрын
It's been a year so, what's it like and can we play it
@BunkerFox
@BunkerFox Жыл бұрын
No, he never finished it. He got bored @@actuallyIDontExist
@thewanderingmistnull2451
@thewanderingmistnull2451 2 жыл бұрын
24:36 Yeah, that sums up the video. "In addition to only speaking in Star Wars quotes while Shrek, you need to end every sentence with a car noise."
@honourablelordmayor
@honourablelordmayor 2 жыл бұрын
I kinda want the full 7 or so hour recording of this so I can see everyone loses their minds
@O5-7
@O5-7 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@ElMoss64
@ElMoss64 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like a 4 person test group may not have been an appropriate test for the speed at which a 10 player group would cycle through the pain deck This is not a complaint
@BlackOps2543x
@BlackOps2543x Жыл бұрын
At 38:17 I took so so so much effort to not explosively spit out the soda from my mouth in laughter
@Nervatel
@Nervatel 2 жыл бұрын
"I didn't tell them the rules either" How to go from Chaotic neutral to chaotic evil in a second
@SkorchRabbitz
@SkorchRabbitz 2 жыл бұрын
The Clown Board killed me. All relevant, accurate quotes
@dr0g_Oakblood
@dr0g_Oakblood Жыл бұрын
18:52 - I mean that's rather vague, you'll have to be more specific- oh it's a joke card of course, I should have known
@FAB1150
@FAB1150 2 жыл бұрын
You can make the "everyone goes back" card double-faced, so that it only works the first time and then becomes something else. The side effect here is that everyone knows when it's coming, adding a level of "strategy" to the game lol. The other side of the card could also be something that everyone does, but a bit nerfed
@zachdrago8130
@zachdrago8130 2 жыл бұрын
Please publish this along with the the full set of rules so me and my friends can hate our lives too
@kneecaps3892
@kneecaps3892 Жыл бұрын
I wish I had a friend group that would legitimately play this with me
@dudeistpreist5721
@dudeistpreist5721 2 жыл бұрын
So just save up 100 dollars to end the pain. That's the winning strategy.
@dawnrays6161
@dawnrays6161 2 жыл бұрын
“It’s been an hour and no one’s even left the starting area” That’s kinda what happens when you play with TEN PEOPLE
@EEEEEEEE
@EEEEEEEE Жыл бұрын
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@nikkiofthevalley
@nikkiofthevalley Жыл бұрын
Especially with the "everyone back to start" pain card. That really shouldn't have been in there with that many people and that many pain spots near the start.
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