Vanguard just increased their fees.

  Рет қаралды 9,639

Financial Interest

Financial Interest

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 203
@FinancialInterestcom
@FinancialInterestcom Күн бұрын
Hi! I just want to clarify a point regarding the fees. They will be taken proportionally, meaning the account with the largest balance will pay the largest portion of the fees.
@DamienTalksMoney
@DamienTalksMoney Күн бұрын
"In investing, you get what you don't pay for. Costs matter." John C. Bogle founder of The Vanguard Group
@StalaxOfficial
@StalaxOfficial Күн бұрын
The little book of investing is what got me into Vanguard. Now using those principals I'm out...
@Henry.Nibler
@Henry.Nibler Күн бұрын
They take 70BPS spreads on money market and 300BPS spreads on cash. There are fees everywhere, you just don't see it
@MichaelRoberts-ru1rw
@MichaelRoberts-ru1rw Күн бұрын
You were the chosen one Vanguard. It was said you would destroy the Sith, not join them!
@andrewp7497
@andrewp7497 Күн бұрын
Don't understand that quote!
@kevinbrook7033
@kevinbrook7033 Күн бұрын
@@andrewp7497 It means the less fees you pay the greater your returns, if you don't pay the fees you get to keep the returns, i.e. you get what you don't pay for.
@chrismunt8443
@chrismunt8443 Күн бұрын
One step forward with the app, then 10 steps back with the fees. I’m out.
@john_dx
@john_dx Күн бұрын
It's a strange one. I get they're probably losing money on these low value accounts but those low value accounts will potentially become the next generation of high value accounts. So it seems like they're giving up future income for lower admin costs today. Maybe they could've waived the minimum charge for anyone making a regular direct debit payment or something. I don't know.
@brettlawrence9015
@brettlawrence9015 Күн бұрын
Totally agree like fidelity do
@ScottDaly-y1u
@ScottDaly-y1u Күн бұрын
I’ll be leaving. Like Damien said it’s a dick move, and I believe they should feel the repercussions of it by having customers leave their platform. Prior to this I would never have considered leaving to be honest as I felt like they provided the best of both worlds with an established, secure brand that you pay a small fee for. That has now changed
@brettlawrence9015
@brettlawrence9015 Күн бұрын
Yep same with me I would have stayed no matter how large my account value got. I don’t mind paying some fees but this is too much.
@josephserra9185
@josephserra9185 Күн бұрын
Disgraceful, for a small investor is a punch in the stomach
@equitydealer-xw7mj
@equitydealer-xw7mj Күн бұрын
I’m leaving, very disappointing and goes against what John Bogle stood for
@reheyesd8666
@reheyesd8666 Күн бұрын
Yeah but who doesn't like more cash than you need? CEOs probably
@Nyssen1
@Nyssen1 23 сағат бұрын
Same here, where would be a better platform?
@andrewpreston4127
@andrewpreston4127 Күн бұрын
I've invested with Vanguard for the last 5 years. I was quite stunned to receive their email about the charge increases. It was short, blunt and gave no real explanation as to why. My income is low, but I do invest regularly and have slowly built up my holdings with Vanguard. I am though way, way, below the £32000 figure, and that £4 a month just looks like price gouging, and a PR disaster..., if that is, they are bothered about PR. I'll be looking at alternatives in very short order.
@ruairidonnelly84
@ruairidonnelly84 Күн бұрын
I'll be leaving. They could have had a sliding scale with the fees e.g. £0-£10k £1/month, £10k-£20k £2/month and so on. I spoke to them earlier today about it and the guy from Vanguard pretty much said yeah i can see why you would leave us.
@eniola5088
@eniola5088 16 сағат бұрын
Where are you thinking of going ?
@gmann8659
@gmann8659 8 сағат бұрын
I'm switching to T212..
@amsterdamkim
@amsterdamkim Күн бұрын
Goodbye Vanguard!!!…Hello Trading 212…
@Jimmy_Jones
@Jimmy_Jones Күн бұрын
I'm selling up. I've had my initial £500 trial in there. Over about 6 years, I have made £160 (I haven't really paid attention to it compared to my other accounts). It was costing me about £0.21 a month to hold this. With this £4 fee change, within 3.6 years, I would lose all my profits made over that time (possibly more due to not having as much invested over time). Seems like they just don't want customers or hope people aren't aware of the changes. Thanks to you and Damien for pointing it out. I would never have known as I barely read those sorts of emails.
@gibboman
@gibboman Күн бұрын
Crazy move by Vanguard! That's me out 😂
@andrewriley4204
@andrewriley4204 Күн бұрын
Was going to open a SIPP with Vanguard. Given this news, I think I'll have a re-think
@iEvangelos
@iEvangelos Күн бұрын
Just got the email and rushed on KZbin and was glad to see a video from you guys. Since I only started last month and have very little in there I think I'll be looking to move to another service and would love to see a video from you about what are the better alternatives. Thanks for making this video and posting it so quickly!!!
@annaz9655
@annaz9655 Күн бұрын
Invest Engine has a free Sipp. I will start there and may e move back to Vanguard after 32k
@zedspoint4614
@zedspoint4614 Күн бұрын
Just in time when Invest Engine removed their SIPP fee entirely
@AlexisMoore-nx6wf
@AlexisMoore-nx6wf Күн бұрын
I have an isa account with InvestEngine, seriously considering transferring my SIPP over to them too
@bob1234881
@bob1234881 Күн бұрын
Just waiting for the transfer
@chrisobeer
@chrisobeer 12 сағат бұрын
If you're starting a SIPP now, that's fine. If you already have a SIP with Vanguard, InvestEngine is currently no use as they don't (yet) accept SIPP transfers in.
@petedoyle7
@petedoyle7 Күн бұрын
Opened an account at the weekend. Set up my £100 a month payment. Read the email today and cancelled my payment. Moving my business to T212.
@The_Unintelligent_Speculator
@The_Unintelligent_Speculator Күн бұрын
John Bogle would be turning right now.
@brettlawrence9015
@brettlawrence9015 Күн бұрын
I’m glad he is not here to see it his principals are not being followed 😢
@awatson6773
@awatson6773 22 сағат бұрын
Thanks for uploading so quickly!
@SAS3223
@SAS3223 Күн бұрын
Leaving Vanguard and also advised all the people I recommend Vanguard to, to do the same.
@worshipthenephilim
@worshipthenephilim Күн бұрын
I just don't understand why they have done this - especially splitting the fees between your accounts, which seems only to harm the investor's tax efficiency without adding anything to Vanguard's profits, surely? Why not allow customers to choose which accounts their fees are taken from? I switched my SIPP from Aviva to Vanguard this year primarily because their fees were so competitive. As a company that have made low fees and accessibility for small investors their big selling points I think they've shot themselves in the foot with this. At the moment this will have quite a small financial impact on me but hmm.... will I stay with them on principle? Not sure.
@ImNickHuggins
@ImNickHuggins Күн бұрын
I’m going to stay put for the moment with vanguard and see if any rival platforms respond. Have been waiting for the rumoured trading 212 sipp to appear, which may entice me to move everything to trading 212 should this become available soon.
@liamnewman5526
@liamnewman5526 21 сағат бұрын
I've decided to close my account with Vanguard, including my SIPP which I was going to transfer to again in a couple of days. Now I am transferring it away. A company that makes moves like this doesn't deserve (however small) business I bring them. A real shame they've done this.
@RickMyBalls
@RickMyBalls 18 сағат бұрын
I can't believe they've done this.
@niamhb1365
@niamhb1365 20 сағат бұрын
Have been with Vanguard for 4 years, it’s where I first started investing. I will definitely be looking to move my S&S ISA elsewhere. Huge shame
@dillondano9991
@dillondano9991 Күн бұрын
Could you do s video on the alternative places for a stocks and shares ISA?
@FinancialInterestcom
@FinancialInterestcom 19 сағат бұрын
We will try to work on this as soon as we can but we have just overhauled our website page for this: financialinterest.com/best-stocks-and-shares-isa/ Hope it helps!
@membury999
@membury999 13 сағат бұрын
​@FinancialInterestcom I would also enjoy a video on this. I've only just started investing in Vanguard stocks and shares this year and I'm not sure where or how to move!
@danielforero6424
@danielforero6424 17 сағат бұрын
A video about how to leave vanguard (or any platform) would be really helpful! 👍🏼
@67eamonn
@67eamonn Күн бұрын
Odd timing as well given InvestEngine have just removed the charges for their SIPP. Although, IE has no drawdown apparatus in place and isn't currently accepting transfers. But if you were new to SIPPs and had plenty of time before drawdown, IE would be the place to go.
@Roo-10
@Roo-10 Күн бұрын
Like a few others in the comments I’m now considering moving my S&S ISA to T212. Once having a £0 balance on Vanguard would I then need to close the account entirely to avoid a pointless £4 a month fee? Apologies if I’ve missed something or if this is a stupid question.
@gavjlewis
@gavjlewis Күн бұрын
It's still a percentage it's just the minimum charge is £4 a month (I suspect it will actually be £12 a quarter) So once you have sold your investments and it's sat in cash there will be no fees. You can then set up a transfer. Or alternatively just start the transfer now. You could leave a few pence in cash in your account if you plan on using Vanguard again in the future to save setting it all up again.
@Roo-10
@Roo-10 Күн бұрын
@ thank you, this helps !
@guestforking
@guestforking 21 сағат бұрын
The small time investors of today are the large holding investors of tomorrow. Seems incredibly short sighted, people who are at the start of their invest journey (like me) are very likely to jump ship or just not join the platform in the first place.
@modernmuslimdating7776
@modernmuslimdating7776 Күн бұрын
Please give alternatives and how we move our isa to another platform / provider. Love your videos
@FinancialInterestcom
@FinancialInterestcom 19 сағат бұрын
Hope this helps financialinterest.com/best-stocks-and-shares-isa/
@AdamDavies111
@AdamDavies111 Күн бұрын
Pissed off. Will be selling
@adamwestrip7422
@adamwestrip7422 17 сағат бұрын
I thought better of Vanguard. I only started investing this year. I like there simple layout on both the website and the app. If I had more than £32k invested I probably would have stayed. T212 here we come
@samhedges169
@samhedges169 10 сағат бұрын
I'll be leaving. This is a crap move on their part!
@TheRealMerl
@TheRealMerl Күн бұрын
That's me gone then. I wish it was possible to transfer my SIPP to InvestEngine, but it's been a year since last update about this :( Do you guys have any 'non-financial advice' on this? :D
@g1ka30
@g1ka30 23 сағат бұрын
I’ll be off. Where is the best place to buy the FTSE Global All Cap Index Accumulation (VAFTGAG)?
@gezmonder
@gezmonder Күн бұрын
I would have thought most people in the UK at least have bought their Vanguard funds via a separate platform anyway. I have a SIPP and ISA in ii but after looking at your fees table there, will think about transferring them in Jan after I have received my introductory cashback.
@PaulSmith-fx8jb
@PaulSmith-fx8jb Күн бұрын
Well... that's a tough one, methinks. From their beginnings in the UK Vanguard was not planning on catering to people who could only afford to invest little sums of money each month, as evidenced by the fact that the minimum payment by debit card was £500 and the Direct Debit was needed to be for £100/month. My SIPP fee is currently £21/year - with the new fee this will more than double to £48/year - for a fee of over 0.30%. But I am also in the position that I could move money into Vanguard which would immediately increase the invested balance to the point that the fee stays the same. As T212 doesn't offer a SIPP yet (pushed into at least Q1/2025) and IE doesn't allow transfer-Ins yet.... Decisions, decisions
@JohnThomas-ey1hx
@JohnThomas-ey1hx 10 сағат бұрын
Just opened Vanguards Stocks & Shares ISA just a week ago. Transferred to Invest Engine. Shortest investment i've ever done.
@Sherlock749
@Sherlock749 Күн бұрын
I’m leaving Vanguard because of these new fees. I have a question though if you don’t mind, Trading 212 doesn’t allow me to switch my FTSE Global All Cap fund across, so what’s the most efficient way to pull money out of the Vanguard account and is there any pitfalls I should be aware of? From what I can see the Vanguard FTSE All-World UCITS ETF is the closest I can get to the All Cap fund?
@Duncan94
@Duncan94 19 сағат бұрын
Great job Vanguard, glad I left years ago!
@tomhuntley
@tomhuntley 22 сағат бұрын
Have been loyal for years - although unimpressed with a few things e.g. UK vs US fees, lack of app (although they have released their crappy one now). I pulled out all my ISA investments last year… was happy keeping my SIPP there - not anymore! Bye Vanguard!
@AdamCoomber
@AdamCoomber 18 сағат бұрын
Was about to set up a SIPP with them in Jan but now re looking at who is best for just a small SIPP of £100 a month. Thank you for the video.
@matthewbyron7676
@matthewbyron7676 Күн бұрын
Just started investing with vanguard. I intended on putting £200 a month into VWRP and it’s my third month. I’m now thinking of switching to invest engine for the fractional shares and avoiding this fee. Hopefully that’s not a bad move. 🤷‍♂️
@edwardhodson6493
@edwardhodson6493 13 сағат бұрын
A step-by-step guide to help transfer from Vanguard Life Strategy to Trading 212 would be super helpful. It gets complicated from the No. of Shares and Average Purchase price screens. I’m sure this is a really common scenario and would therefore make a popular video!
@kinggeoffrey3801
@kinggeoffrey3801 Күн бұрын
I'm glad I ditched my life strategy in the summer now. Didn't like the way things were going through customer service and interviews with their fund managers.
@danielforero6424
@danielforero6424 17 сағат бұрын
Leaving vanguard as soon as I can. Ridiculous change. Thanks for the video.
@equitydealer-xw7mj
@equitydealer-xw7mj Күн бұрын
What about those who start a transfer out but it’s not processed in time for when the new fees kick in :(
@leefairfield7537
@leefairfield7537 Күн бұрын
Yes i also dont know the answer to this. It shouldnt legally be possible to do tbis
@jonathanburson4994
@jonathanburson4994 23 сағат бұрын
Transfers these days should take days and not weeks like it used to. The only exception should be if you have funds that are priced monthly and you missed the cut off but I don’t think there are many of those about these days - can’t remember the last time I saw one
@equitydealer-xw7mj
@equitydealer-xw7mj 21 сағат бұрын
@@jonathanburson4994 unfortunately there are several horror stories about transfers out from Vanguard if you search online
@MrPurle
@MrPurle Күн бұрын
I was contemplating moving my SIPP to InvestEngine, but I think IE is limited if I want to draw down any cash (I'm in my early 50s, so am contemplating options in the near-ish future)... that and the fact that Vanguard are a massive company (and safe!)...
@gill3011
@gill3011 Күн бұрын
I’ll be leaving but as someone who is new to online platforms like this it would be helpful for you to do a video on exactly how best to leave them.
@FinancialInterestcom
@FinancialInterestcom 19 сағат бұрын
Can definitely look at doing this, e.g. 'How to transfer to another broker' ? Side note it's quite easy you can just join the other broker and request a transfer in with them, providing they support transfers from the broker you're currently with.
@MysteriousKiz
@MysteriousKiz Күн бұрын
If they were taking £4 from my cash account, I may have swallowed a bitter pill, but taking it away from my generated growth? Absolutely not. I'm looking to put my investments elsewhere.
@Tomherbs
@Tomherbs 13 сағат бұрын
You can set it up to come from your current account
@garybarnes9254
@garybarnes9254 9 сағат бұрын
Do you recommend an ISA switch over just selling and putting straight into another platform, or is there no real difference other than time?
@andibk2853
@andibk2853 15 сағат бұрын
Vanguard clients were staying for its reputability and expecting lower fees at least starting with their own products. I am out. Let me know if anyone knows any limitation of re opening an account after closing it with them.
@TomaszGrygorczuk
@TomaszGrygorczuk 19 сағат бұрын
Started in Jan 24'. Happy with it as it was fully automated. As you mentioned from 100£, 4£ is a 4% which is a lot. I will be selling and going to investengine.
@egocd
@egocd Күн бұрын
Could move my ISA to T212, but I'm not sure of the best place for my SIPP now... Vanguard fees should be going down, not up!
@izzy__uk3856
@izzy__uk3856 23 сағат бұрын
I’m a novice and invest through Vanguard in to the FTSE All Cap Global Index Fund - is there a good alternative competitor to move to?
@DocNick68
@DocNick68 Күн бұрын
Started looking at the alternatives, some of them have other costs e.g. charges per transaction, which means people using their SIPPs and ISAs in a typical way (paying in each month) will have additional costs.
@FinancialInterestcom
@FinancialInterestcom Күн бұрын
Our SIPP comparison guide factors this in and uses the cheapest ongoing investment method with each
@Planerary
@Planerary Күн бұрын
They're trying to push away the plebs. Really sad that this is the approach they're going for. As a small investor, I'll be looking elsewhere from now on.
@reheyesd8666
@reheyesd8666 Күн бұрын
Trading212 is okay imo. I just wish they had a wider selection of etfs
@64bit-
@64bit- Күн бұрын
T212 >
@Thaitanium73
@Thaitanium73 Күн бұрын
They don't have SIPP
@64bit-
@64bit- Күн бұрын
@@Thaitanium73 Q1 next year
@medan1266
@medan1266 19 сағат бұрын
can't get to their site today. Vanguard app doesn't work either. Probably a lot of orders to sell everything. 😮
@meinages
@meinages 22 сағат бұрын
I have over 32k in a account with vanguard, and wanted to start a junior isa with them in the same account for my daughter. Does my 32k count towards to the total in that case. So I just pay one lot of fees? Or does her jisa also pay £4 a month fee.
@mvp_kryptonite
@mvp_kryptonite Күн бұрын
I used it and it was a nightmare to connect to my bank let alone get regular payments. I jumped right off as quickly as I joined. The platform (and new app) need a complete re architecture
@King_Law1
@King_Law1 18 сағат бұрын
Shocking from Vanguard.
@DanRTS
@DanRTS 18 сағат бұрын
I have just this month opened a SIPP with £500 with Vanguard. Is there a better recommendation? I need to be able to pay into it from my Ltd Company. Thanks
@FinancialInterestcom
@FinancialInterestcom 17 сағат бұрын
We have a SIPP comparison here which also lists those that accept Employer contributions (e.g. businesses can pay in): financialinterest.com/best-sipp/
@DanRTS
@DanRTS 16 сағат бұрын
@FinancialInterestcom Thank you!
@whodaressings3493
@whodaressings3493 21 сағат бұрын
I'll be transferring to Invest Engine
@markmahood3099
@markmahood3099 Күн бұрын
This makes no sense at all. Low fees for small amounts and a simple reliable platform was what attracted me to vanguard.
@FinancialInterestcom
@FinancialInterestcom Күн бұрын
Yeah it does seem very odd to pile such a big fee increase on smaller portfolios
@reefunk1974
@reefunk1974 Күн бұрын
Looks like plebs aren't profitable
@MARTINA-gc3tq
@MARTINA-gc3tq Күн бұрын
I think they have had to put their fees up because they keep having to pay out compensation for their crap complaints handling. I,m on my third complaint in four years.
@StephenLewis-m5s
@StephenLewis-m5s Күн бұрын
I got £100 for poor service just last Friday!
@MARTINA-gc3tq
@MARTINA-gc3tq Күн бұрын
@ Make a complaint to the FSO …their minimum award is £500.
@Piglet88-i4d
@Piglet88-i4d 14 сағат бұрын
At this stage, what platform is best suited for a JISA? I’ve got 2 with Vanguard and it would be useful to know if there are more cost effective options out there. Cheers!
@FinancialInterestcom
@FinancialInterestcom 14 сағат бұрын
Hope this helps financialinterest.com/best-junior-stocks-shares-isa/
@Piglet88-i4d
@Piglet88-i4d 8 сағат бұрын
Thank you! Your content is fantastic. Keep up the great work.
@stefaancoussement1034
@stefaancoussement1034 Күн бұрын
I setup an invest-engine SIPP today. Unfortunately didn't realise that you cannot transfer-in yet. So IE is also a no-go for now.
@stevenhutchinson4885
@stevenhutchinson4885 18 сағат бұрын
I am leaving, this will cost them in the long run when people with small investment pots start elsewhere and never move to Vanguard when they have bigger pots later in life.
@MilaNScooby
@MilaNScooby Күн бұрын
Bye Vanguard. Shame because it was good!
@timcoupland5824
@timcoupland5824 16 сағат бұрын
Had my pension with St James place for 10 years. Vanguard can treble their fees and halve their funds performance and I'd still be better off. Fees are proportionate and I'd pay a little extra for trust and I certainly wouldn't trust some providers with my pension. My isa and gia are with T212 and have vanguard funds in them as it's cheaper. Be careful people don't go watching this and moving pensions to another provider that charges less and performs way less. It's a balancing act fees vs performance
@FinancialInterestcom
@FinancialInterestcom 14 сағат бұрын
100% costs aren’t everything. It’s just that Vanguard has many very well established long-term competitors (e.g. the likes of HL, Fidelity, AJ Bell etc) that offer similar perceived trustworthiness at a much lower price
@Em-bug
@Em-bug 16 сағат бұрын
Like a lot of others it seems, I'll also be leaving the platform. As a small investor who only started out a couple of years ago, I'm really disappointed to see this change, which is seemingly aiming to at sort the wheat from the chaff (it's me, I'm the chaff) and putting all their energy into their big time investors. Kind of bummed out about this - was starting to feel confident in my investments and now it's back to the drawing board...
@haydnmartin4022
@haydnmartin4022 17 сағат бұрын
So in other words if you haven’t quite got 32,000 in your portfolio just top it up to that or just wait until it reaches that then your all good .
@FinancialInterestcom
@FinancialInterestcom 15 сағат бұрын
Yes if you have 32k you’d be no worse off than before, though their costs are still on the higher side
@georgereid4534
@georgereid4534 Күн бұрын
I’ll be leaving which is a massive shame. I was always a big advocate of vanguard but I’d like to think that if they start to see a big shift of customers leaving then they’ll change. Or maybe this is their way of getting rid of lower earning customers and keeping the higher earner (and more profitable) customers? Thanks for making this video guys as I saw the email today but didn’t fully register what it meant until just now
@oofazi
@oofazi Күн бұрын
Me too, a ton of us at work are thoroughly unimpressed with that email, to be honest. I'll direct them to this video (and more importantly, the comments of the people).
@brettlawrence9015
@brettlawrence9015 Күн бұрын
They don’t have an advantage for high income accounts or low really strange.
@barramaciomhair
@barramaciomhair Күн бұрын
Everyone has to start some place. Low income accounts become the high ones in the future. My wife's account is affected, she took some convincing to set a SIPP up and this in a way confirms what she already believed that these companies cant be trusted. I won't be affected as much as I'll be over the £32000 in my pension soon but I'm going to move my SIPP just on principle.
@ethan_c223
@ethan_c223 Күн бұрын
Very disappointed. Will be transferring to 212 now
@yxzuk9214
@yxzuk9214 Күн бұрын
Yep trading 212 are gonna take over pretty much any trading platform in the uk, cashback on their debit cards, flexible/daily interest on cash isa and now cheaper s&s isa fees
@PaulSmith-fx8jb
@PaulSmith-fx8jb Күн бұрын
Shame they don't have a SIPP yet.
@AlexTheLion9875
@AlexTheLion9875 Күн бұрын
Not great, I really like the VAFTGAG fund with over 7,000 stocks for my pension. However, I’m definitely considering invest engine when they finally allow transfers.
@millie79
@millie79 20 сағат бұрын
Been with Vanguard just over a year but will be leaving as I'm under the threshold and currently don't pay much more than that on a quarterly basis.
@Jbonn6141
@Jbonn6141 23 сағат бұрын
For someone with 25k GBP is it worth moving to 212?
@FinancialInterestcom
@FinancialInterestcom 23 сағат бұрын
at 25k balance your annual fee would increase from £37.50 to £48
@JasonTheOneAndOnly
@JasonTheOneAndOnly Күн бұрын
That just seems greedy
@matoi7222
@matoi7222 13 сағат бұрын
Ill for sure be leaving, i have about £10000 invested started last year but this seems like a no brainer to move to somewhere else. Any good recs? T212 is good? at least from what i gathered on Damians videos for a UK user. Edit: Is it simple to transfer from one platform to another as well? Given its just an Isa i assume there are no fees just to transfer from one to another, but i am a newbie invester here, i mostly have just been doing £100 a month after intially openin my account with vanguard lst year.
@FinancialInterestcom
@FinancialInterestcom 13 сағат бұрын
It depends on the type of account you're looking for, we've linked some guides in the description that compare fees across brokers of various account types
@chrish3305
@chrish3305 Күн бұрын
I’m out. I liked the company and what they stood for. This betrays it. Voting with my feet
@blahmaas
@blahmaas 22 сағат бұрын
Im definitely moving to trading 212. This is really shitty of them.
@bethancartwright2709
@bethancartwright2709 Күн бұрын
Need to transfer my life strategy 100 now but trading 212 do not seem to facilitate it. Ive now requested my fund transfer to life strategy 80 so that I can transfer it. Its the only logical thing for me to do.
@garybarnes9254
@garybarnes9254 9 сағат бұрын
Similar situation to yourself but wouldn’t it be quicker selling and then putting straight in to T212 or is there some benefit to switching that I don’t know about?
@bethancartwright2709
@bethancartwright2709 7 сағат бұрын
@@garybarnes9254 I was thinking about doing that but couldn't work out how to transfer the cash within the ISA. Don't want to lose out on my yearly allowance by just closing the account either. :(
@Phil_AKA_ThundyUK
@Phil_AKA_ThundyUK Күн бұрын
I was about to open a JSIPP but not now
@reespaul27
@reespaul27 Күн бұрын
I've sold my whole portfolio today. It's only 8k, but that's all I have. As soon as it clears, it will going into Trading 212. Didn't want to wait to switch as this can take over a month
@garybarnes9254
@garybarnes9254 9 сағат бұрын
I was thinking this… what are the pros and cons of selling rather than switching? Is it just that switching takes longer? I use LS100 which T212 don’t have anyway so looks like I’ll be going with one of the more popular funds
@ZanderKaneUK
@ZanderKaneUK Күн бұрын
How does the changes affect an investment in trading 212? If your holding let's say VWRL in trading 212 (Damien's and T's video on how to invest). Are Trading 212 the vanguard customer and we the app users are the customer of trading 212?
@FinancialInterestcom
@FinancialInterestcom Күн бұрын
It doesn’t affect them at all the fund fees remain the same. This fee is for users of the Vanguard platform itself. Damo
@wealthelife
@wealthelife Күн бұрын
Vanguard in the US is effectively a 'non-profit' owned by the US investors, whereas Vanguard subsidiaries in the UK, Australia etc. are 'for profit' branches that are also operating in a smaller market, so localization costs are relatively higher per investor in those markets vs the US. Hardly a surprise. ps. there is no reason why the fixed cost per account should not be paid by all investors -- the fact that it is relatively higher for a 'small investor' just means those people should use one of the many other low/no cost investment platforms while they start saving and investing. If the Vanguard base fees are too high, use a different platform. ps. Those saying "well, I'll leave because of the small monthly fixed admin fee" are doing exactly as intended -- the whole point of putting in a modest fixed monthly fee is to cull all those myriad tiny accounts that actually cost more to maintain than the % fees generate. Vanguard is not a charity, and larger Vanguard accounts have no moral obligation to accept rent-seeking behaviour by smaller investors.
@AuxHex
@AuxHex Күн бұрын
There are no admin expenses on Vanguard side.
@gavjlewis
@gavjlewis Күн бұрын
​@@AuxHex Well paying FNZ is probably quite a fee. I guess they agreed a fee per user with Vanguard but for the people with low balances it's not worth it for Vanguard (maybe they weren't expecting lower end users when they originally set up the UK agency model. Which is why there is essentially a minimum fee. They clearly don't want to get caught up in the race to the bottom on fees.
@wealthelife
@wealthelife Күн бұрын
@@AuxHexSimply not true. There are both fixed costs (eg website, app development and maintenance, regulatory compliance, reporting etc) and per acct costs (eg. running a batch autoinvestment job) that cost money per account. So there is a base level of fixed 'admin' costs per account that should be covered by a fixed monthly fee. I have no idea if the admin fee is 'cost recovery' or a source of profit (most profit would come from the % AUM fees), but it is simply a fantasy to say that 'there are no admin expenses on Vanguard side'...
@AuxHex
@AuxHex 22 сағат бұрын
@wealthelife IT running costs do not depend on an amount of users, because Vanguard is mostly a static system (as in it's not a high frequency trading system with many users). Their fees just go straight into their pockets. The whole point of Vanguard is that there are no running fees compared to a human managed broker service.
@gavjlewis
@gavjlewis 19 сағат бұрын
@@wealthelife I already replied to this yesterday but it seems to have disappeared. Obviously Vanguard in the UK is an agency model and is run by FNZ. So one presumes Vanguard is paying FNZ a fee per user. So the ones with low balances don't make enough revenue to be worth it. It's also likely many new users are unsure of many things so use customer services proportionately more.
@anterosLondon
@anterosLondon Күн бұрын
I stick with Vanguard 100% - investing is long term and I prefer investing with a very reputable platform which makes profits therefore sustainable business model.
@richardturner5541
@richardturner5541 20 сағат бұрын
Unfortunately, that £4 a month compounded over a long period will make a huge difference the the fund final value. Especially if you are at the start of the investing journey.
@anterosLondon
@anterosLondon 19 сағат бұрын
@ 48 a year it would give someone with an excellent average market return of 10% over 10 years , 826£ and of course there is a fee even now so this amount is much less in reality. We can argue that is a lot but is not a lot really and having our future and really hard earned money with an excellent company like Vanguard is worth much more than that. I don’t work for Vanguard btw:-)
@Dan83C
@Dan83C Күн бұрын
I’ll be looking at alternatives.
@Norfolkpaul
@Norfolkpaul Күн бұрын
Out for me
@iulchj
@iulchj Күн бұрын
I'm leaving. Where should I go?
@harewood1988
@harewood1988 Күн бұрын
Time to switch the bulk of my isa over too trading 212 I was using both but this is the final straw
@paulcollins2297
@paulcollins2297 Күн бұрын
Think Dodl by a j bell is cheaper for me now.
@Swingking1977
@Swingking1977 Күн бұрын
I’m out out
@StephenLewis-m5s
@StephenLewis-m5s Күн бұрын
I'd like to transfer my small SIPP to Invest Engine but they're not yet taking transfers.
@benmckenziefilms
@benmckenziefilms Күн бұрын
Same mate. Just opened the SIPP a couple weeks ago, I only have £100 in there. Now I have to go through the hassle of moving that as £4 a month fee in that is dumb
@GinoLatino-y5u
@GinoLatino-y5u 21 сағат бұрын
I guess I will move all my ISA investments from Vanguard to Trading 212
@chrisobeer
@chrisobeer 12 сағат бұрын
Bear in mind that, if any of your Vanguard holdings are in funds rather than ETFs, you won't be able to transfer them in specie, as Trading 212 doesn't offer funds.
@wiolettan.9156
@wiolettan.9156 16 сағат бұрын
Definitely not a nice move and they might suffer from many small investors leaving the platform.
@jfitz2481
@jfitz2481 Күн бұрын
yep great video, surprised to see them penalize world/european investors, interesting move.Will be moving to Fidelity or Trading 212
@pd4680
@pd4680 Күн бұрын
I will stop recommending I will move to 212 and tell my sons to move to 212 also
@Thetwelthman
@Thetwelthman Күн бұрын
Out.
@jamescrampton6803
@jamescrampton6803 16 сағат бұрын
Is this a conscious effort to get rid of smaller investors? I’m out…
Why France’s government just collapsed | About That
8:56
CBC News
Рет қаралды 862 М.
This tiny computer changes EVERYTHING
15:57
Jeff Geerling
Рет қаралды 838 М.
Smart Sigma Kid #funny #sigma
00:33
CRAZY GREAPA
Рет қаралды 37 МЛН
黑天使只对C罗有感觉#short #angel #clown
00:39
Super Beauty team
Рет қаралды 33 МЛН
BAYGUYSTAN | 1 СЕРИЯ | bayGUYS
37:51
bayGUYS
Рет қаралды 975 М.
Vanguard Just Made A HUGE MISTAKE - Here's What I Am Doing!
11:13
Hooked on Finance
Рет қаралды 2,7 М.
DIY Investors Hit by Vanguard's New £4 Fee
6:54
PensionCraft
Рет қаралды 16 М.
AMD's CEO Wants to Chip Away at Nvidia's Lead | The Circuit with Emily Chang
24:02
The Man Who Feeds Gaza's Children | Insider Docs | Business Insider
18:51
Business Insider
Рет қаралды 103 М.
Dave Ramsey's Life Advice Will Leave You SPEECHLESS (MUST WATCH)
16:40
FREENVESTING
Рет қаралды 12 МЛН
After I Read 40 Books on Investing - Here's What Will Make You Rich
14:48
Best Vanguard Funds UK
18:40
PensionCraft
Рет қаралды 124 М.
My honest advice to someone who wants financial freedom
18:39
Mark Tilbury
Рет қаралды 441 М.
Smart Sigma Kid #funny #sigma
00:33
CRAZY GREAPA
Рет қаралды 37 МЛН