Virgin Atlantic and Egyptair CLIP THEIR WINGS AT THE JFK!

[@VASAviation]

So much work on this one and so many hours non-stop to have this done by today. Be advised, animations may not be correct + audio is not in real time. Anyway, I hope you find it useful to visualize the situation. From these lines, KUDOS to the air traffic controllers and the emergency services for their job. No delays were applied except for both affected aircraft and the A318 and B757 behind who had to wait for the planes to clear the area and taxi for their takeoff.

[@mahiabir]

VASAviation - thanks

[@kaapstad18]

VAS Thanks for all the time and effort to make this video

[@GerbenWijnja]

Very interesting, thanks for the hard work.

[@tucstwo]

10:05 he actually says, "Yes, just be advised *The Port Authority plans* to tow you back to the terminal...

[@TrailBlazer46]

VASAviation - Thanks for all your hard work and getting this out to us so fast!

[@erictaylor5462]

If you're going to colide with another airplane, there is no place better to do so as on the ground.

[@MohammadAsadullaShareef]

Tenerife's 747s do not agree!

[@erictaylor5462]

The plane was not, TECHNICALLY on the ground. It had lifted off just before impact. Also, he was moving at takeoff speed. Even so, there were survivors of that crash. So it was STILL not as bad as it could have been.

[@raymondlg7815]

Mohammad Asadulla Shareef He got a point there. So think about it? Whats worse? mid air collision or ground collision!!

[@erictaylor5462]

Your chances are much better on the ground. It eliminates the second, very often worse secondary impact, with the ground.

[@raymondlg7815]

Eric Taylor True. Even though ground collisions can be fatal as much as air ones. Still with Towers controls etc the chances of that happening are very slim.

[@KT8907]

Now the EgyptAir has to pull to the side to exchange insurance papers so they can be off on their way.

[@JoeyLovesTrains]

Excuse me sir, I believe we must exchange insurance information

[@butter_playzyt1284]

Ik man that's my home airline!!!

[@fhs4137]

@@JoeyLovesTrains EgyptAir be like: "Please contact us in 15 minutes, we need to expedite a switch to Geico"

[@JoeyLovesTrains]

FHS it’s was a Jawsh quote

[@douggodsoe]

Oh, no, that’s gonna buff right out. No need to get insurance involved. A little Bondo, and it’ll be good.

[@victoriacyunczyk]

ATC: There's a 757 behind you. Speedbird: Very well. Classic British response.

[@morthren]

I think he said: 'No worries'

[@victoriacyunczyk]

@@morthren Still pretty much the same effect.

[@Phili2012]

These things happen, can I have a cuppa whilst we wait.

[@fras444]

4:32 'Ladies and Gentlemen..." "this is your captain speaking..." "if you look outside the left hand side... You will see what happens when two wings touch...." " Your flight has now been cancelled." "Thank you for flying with....."

[@peridianejones3859]

*"Thank you for taxiing with...."

[@Sky_Guy]

After the desperate hour-long struggle of the captain, Speedbird 2 being able to taxi to 31L via Kilo was the happy ending I so desperately needed.

[@BobSmith-tb7rw]

"Tower... I think the Egyptair hit our left wing!" "Alright"

[@Dowlphin]

CNN: "Right-wing muslim hits left-wing Atlantic virgin in distress"

[@bisexualsmoothtalker1270]

Dowlphwin I want to punch you for that bad joke, but I also want to thank you for it

[@husseinmohammed1431]

@@Dowlphin ohhhh I didn't get it at first lmao

[@Dowlphin]

@Tresden The Craln - Yeah, would probably have worked better with FOX in this case.

[@Mostlyharmless1985]

What you heard in that one, single defeated word is “well, my night is fucked, and so is yours.”

[@RellyOhBoy]

Lol That Speedbird flight just wanted to get the hell outta there.

[@megabyte112]

RellyOhBoy SpeedBird is the callsign for British Airways.

[@TheByard]

@Pop Films All fuel used in a delay is a concern as the minimum journey plus safety margin fuel is loaded. Unlike boats where we load enough for a return to departure port or another port. should there be a problem not getting into original destination.

[@jonb6417]

And can you blame him? It's a shame he didn't have room to get to the runway.

[@RellyOhBoy]

@@megabyte112 No Shit Sherlock.... that's what I said. He was the aircraft behind the Egypt Air flight. He was making radio calls trying to see if there was away to squeeze around him to get to the runway. Like I said, he wanted to get the hell outta there.

[@RellyOhBoy]

@@jonb6417 if Egypt air were up a bit further he coulda made kilo 2 to the runway. atleast he had a front-row seat.

[@jr13227]

Imagine the nightmare this little incident caused for the passengers and airlines. Especially because they are away from their home base and no extra airplanes.

[@Archonch]

It always makes me happy to see pilots and ATC talking calmly to figure out a solution when the average car driver would be yelling and pointing fingers.

[@mathiasnord4208]

If i was the EgyptAir pilot i would start seeking after a new job. Xd

[@deestilo]

they got telephony class and of course attitude check training as well I guess, not every drivers.

[@InuKun2008]

You should listen in on Orlando Executive and enjoy the missed approach and go around situations. The controllers really get pissed off because it messes up operations at Orlando International to the south when an aircraft doesn't carry through with the landing at Executive.

[@mrbob55304]

Well, here in Texas, at least one of the participants would be on the pavement bleeding out.

[@kriptonis]

You have a different perspective on things when you earn 15k per month. Things seem... simpler.

[@setj2368]

My favourite thing in these clips is hearing British pilots say ‘understood’. It just sounds so good in our accent 👌

[@vividthespis]

Apart from the collision itself, this is a classic example of professional radio work and competence from all involved. I'm actually impressed with JFK here for once.

[@DavidsGameChannel]

When Kennedy Steve retied...KJFK Ground is messed...

[@JeniousJustin]

That controller seemed like he was overworked, he kept having to correct himself, and sounded like he was exhausted.

[@VASAviation]

Welcome to JFK.

[@raemills3089]

This airport is notorious. According to Kennedy Steve you can only do control successfully for about 60 minutes ; 75 max. (He has an interview on here with Capt - Joe I think ?) . It's exhausting and never ending. I feel like the learning curve is steep.

[@garyhost354]

They need to suck it up. America is the rapinhoe generation now.

[@imjustsomeguy72]

Car 94 was obviously being driven by the new guy :D

[@GameWizzard2843]

This is a common misconception. These planes were just high fiving each other.

[@CoffeeMatt10]

They high fived and broke each other’s hands, snapping a few digits off in the process.

[@HS-PGX]

I literally just realised I had flown this exact 777 from Cairo to Heathrow and did not realise this had happened. Lol

[@hashtagjeff6727]

Aiyaphol Kemapuckpong LoL

[@treyn8070]

You would really think the airlines would inform their employees about something like that. We need something like carfax for planes and call it wingfax.

[@JennyWinters]

We need WAZE for air traffic problems.

[@tomatosofficial1124]

@@treyn8070 Doesn’t matter. Its irrelevant info.

[@webredraptors]

Layman here. How could this have been avoided (aside from having more cautious pilots)? Could ATC have instructed Virgin to pull all the way forward on the run-up pad in order to deal with the technical problem, then instructed everyone else to use K2 to access the runway? Or would some of those planes have needed the full length of the runway to takeoff?

[@thegreat_I_am]

They instructed the Virgin pilot to pull over as far as he could. Obviously that wasn’t enough. Egyptair should’ve refused to move until the Virgin aircraft was removed or wing walkers were provided. Then again, if you’ve ever driven in Egypt, nothing they do would surprise you!

[@kepler240]

how in the Hell do these controllers do this everyday? I'd be so damn stressed out, I'd go full scale George Costanza berserk the first hour.

[@ryans.3596]

Virgin Atlantic Pilot's thoughts: "Car 99 where are youuu?" The older crowd may get the joke here. lol

[@ralgha]

Thanks for the reminder. :P

[@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043]

Haha. I sure do remember. Good ol' Car 54. Thx for the memories!

[@flynnlivescmd]

33 isnt old! Noooooooo

[@silencedknight]

He’s holding ‘6000 heading 180

[@trplpwr1038]

That would be me, got it.

[@m.m.6757]

I was onboard the Virgin Atlantic aircraft. It’s nice to see insight as to what actually happened.

[@jamie123b]

Did you feel much of a jolt? Did you know you collided with the other plane

[@m.m.6757]

@@jamie123b yes we knew. It hit hard

[@ThePerpetualStudent]

You are my favorite ATC channel! It helps my fear of flying, truly.

[@VASAviation]

I'm glad you say that :)

[@mikej5337]

as an aussie, ive been listening to alot of these in the american accent, now i realise how funny our aussie accent sounds bahahaha.

[@gisseblanco]

I would love to hear aussie ATC recordings!! Where do I find them? 😂😂

[@ligma8254]

I was actually on the flight radar 24 app and I was looking at JFK and saw VA and EA on the same taxiway and it looked like the VA was next to the Egypt. I wasn’t sure what was going on but no one was moving and it was an open runway they could’ve turned onto. Now I realize what happened lol.

[@IANinALTONA]

tiny innocent a318 stuck in all this mess ;-) Interesting: BAW2 made it across the pond in one go, despite being stuck on the taxiway for an hour, burning extra fuel...

[@CC57985]

The BAW2 pilot shuts off the engines pretty soon after the incident, which is why the ATC then instructs him and the Aer Lingus pilot at 16:30 to ‘start up’ and advise him when they are ready to start taxiing.

[@RastrojeroDiesel1]

And don't forget that it landed on LCY.

[@MUFC_Dylan.]

4:07 is where you came for

[@laklinka]

Nice to hear Air China pilots in car 94 heading out to help!!

[@ej5936]

People don't realize that how much work and effort is required to fly and land an aircraft, much respect to ATC operators coordinating multi tasks in the ground and air

[@kingston5469]

The Egyptair was just trying to hold his hand. He didn't know it was going to cause such a commotion.

[@oscarolie5743]

Thanks again for this one, love your posts, VASAviation! ;)

[@VASAviation]

Thank you for watching! :)

[@DasOberkommando]

This was brilliantly done!

[@satscotia]

Awesome detail as usual guys.

[@claudec2588]

Thanks for these videos. You get an appreciation for just how busy ATC can get.

[@matt8863]

16:10 "Minimum debris but just lay low thrust on the engines" Really??? Heaven forbid someone gets out of the truck to sweep up.

[@Dowlphin]

While I don't know what the actual situation looked like, to me "minimum debris" implies small, light parts that get into engines especially easily.

[@matt8863]

Exactly...Even as you said in another post, the tires. But I'd be much more worried about a $12 million Turbofan.

[@fidel4023]

She should stick with making sandwiches

[@uruiamnot]

Port Authority Union. They had to wait for the apron cleaning truck.

[@arenalife]

It might look a small area but it's not like a road, imagine sweeping an area 250 ft x 250 ft and not missing anything.

[@elcastorgrande]

VAS Aviation, Outstanding work! Ripped from the headlines. I wish KS had been there, but as he is not, the crew is still professional, if prosaic.

[@JennyWinters]

We all miss KS but take note that the ramp is working very very efficiently now at JFK. I know it's a rule they have to retire but he was very sharp. Maybe bi-annual dementia exams should be used in stead of age retire outs.

[@puma.will.pounce7590]

Who's the rocket scientist who designed a run-up pad without a taxi line so planes taxiing on K will clip wingtips with a plane parked on the pad? This is a huge operations error and design oversight. That pad and taxiway are new concrete.

[@devonmoors]

puma.will. pounce I would have expected the First Officer on the Egypt Air flight to be very much aware of the Virgin parking on the pad to his right even if he was engaged in check list call outs.Just saying

[@puma.will.pounce7590]

What does awareness have to do with wingtip clearance? The EGYPT AIR thought the Virgin was parked where he was suppose to be, and there are no restrictions listed for 777-300ER on taxiway K. This is the fault of JFK airport. Secondary fault goes to Virgin for eyeballing where to put their nosewheel on an unmarked holding pad.

[@devonmoors]

Awareness is being able to acknowledge and react to what is happening around you in your ambient environment and not to concentrate on one single work piece.

[@jimstanley_49]

Usually, the aircraft doing the runup will keep their place in line while they do it, and any aircraft passing someone needs to make sure they can squeeze by. This isn't a "safe parking zone," it's a place where aircraft can swing wide and point their engines somewhere safe. There's an instructional video where a CFI is taxiing a Cherokee (low wing) in line behind a Skyhawk (high wing), both angled on the taxiway for runup. The Skyhawk is taking his sweet time, and our man in the Cherokee, wanting to get on with our lesson, decides to pass because his wing will pass under the Skyhawk's. As he's taking off, the tower asks the next plane in line (another high-wing) if he wants to pass the Skyhawk. He says no because he probably can't get around the wing. Virgin should have pulled up and off a bit farther, and probably angled the nose a bit back toward Kilo to pull the wing out of the way. Egypt should have pulled over to the left (looks like there's some room towards Kilo 2) to be sure and clear Virgin. It may even have been Virgin's intention to leave the far end of the pad open for Egypt to come back to the right and make a wide left turn onto Kilo 1.

[@knightlife98]

Jim Stanley Yeah, it does seem like that would have been the best thing to do in this situation. JFK was built in the 1950's, so the layout of it leaves very much to be desired....lol! Pilots need to really think about their actions, when navigating around ol' JFK Airport.

[@billcallahan9303]

That gal in car 99 had her act together! Virgin could've moved a bit further over but Egypt was the responsible party. They could've asked Speedbird behind them to watch their starboard wing if it looked problematic.

[@byWulf]

The airport is really missing Kennedy Steve :/

[@joaopedrosateles2679]

Michael Wolf he retired?

[@byWulf]

In August already, yep.

[@joaopedrosateles2679]

Michael Wolf wasnt aware. Thanks. We'll miss him.

[@EnriqueDominican]

Michael Wolf i thought same thing. We miss him already

[@mickfunny4185]

Barry A. Also, KS would know what to say to Egypt Air...sir, you’re not pointed toward the pyramids, you’re on the wrong runway

[@jonesaviation1116]

The British pilots are just the best lol, response wise !

[@setj2368]

We don’t have time to be playing around 😂 speedbird just wanted to leave haha

[@alucardvigilatedismas2868]

There's an older ground collision video on this channel between a 737 and 757, witnessed by Virgin 4C at JFK. I just thought it was a neat (?) coincidence

[@jofox8066]

Can I ask anyone who's knowldgeable... What is the process for dealing with non life threatening shunts like this with aircraft? Will the passengers have to be sent on later flights? Do the companies exchange insurance details? Is the port authority liable at all? Do the planes get repaired and checked before going out again? Do the pilots take a different flight or stay longer at the accident city location or does it just depend of where and when they are next needed to fly? Sorry for so many questions - just interested. :-)

[@Влади́мирПу́тин-м1и]

Yes

[@joshualandry3160]

The aircraft are grounded until repaired. The self loading cargo... er "passengers," will be re loaded on another aircraft or rerouted as this is the airline's fault. Insurance will Just think, after all that attention and *still* a Virgin... sort this out. The port authority may be liable. The insurance will determine. The airline will decide what they want to do with the pilots.

[@josephniepce7887]

Haha, self loading cargo, nice one and pretty acurate, it displays the REAL airlines attitude and policy towards customers.

[@puma.will.pounce7590]

Jo - In this case, Virgin Airlines and Egypt Air will likely ask the Port Authority (which owns the airport) to pay for damage to both aircraft since it was the airport's fault for not having a taxi line on the run-up pad where the Virgin A330 parked which forced the Virgin captain to essentially guess where he should park. I've seen airlines request the airport to pay for damages before in similar incidents.

[@joshualandry3160]

Joseph Niepce I actually didn't make that one up. "Self loading cargo" is a quite common in the industry.

[@MiniMaxiSlots]

Uh, minimum debris and keep thrust low??? WTF? Don't these ops people know a screw can get sucked into an engine at idle speed and cause significant damage? I would refuse to taxi over that area.

[@Shumayal]

you are being over safe lol

[@ThomsonAirwaysFs]

Completely agree, all airfield movement areas should be fod free and fully serviceable before allowing movements to commence. Ops vehicles R/T wasn't the greatest however bear in mind this was a stressful situation for the airport authority/ops teams.

[@Dowlphin]

My layman thought: Where the hell is JFK's vacuum cleaner car? (optionally turbine-powered, haha)

[@hansvonmannschaft9062]

Had the same thoughts. "Minimum debris, so it's ok" I was like... wait wha...? This some new kind of devilish JFK lottery service?

[@xiledwp9522]

Definitely should have done a FOD walk down

[@ClearAdventure]

WAIT! I know people with 5 cameras on their RV. You cannot tell me we can't put 10 outside cameras to cycle through on an airliner. C'mon. They can't see if the engine is on fire? If the rudder is working? If they have wing clearance? This is child's play, and overlooked. I will never understand this. Because it is stupid not to have multiple views of the aircraft. Period.

[@jetuber]

I was wondering the same thing.

[@6z0]

Cost, aerodynamic drag. Two major things aircraft manufacturers have to keep down to make more money

[@clickrick]

@@6z0 Indeed. And then also cost of equipment to watch them, complexity of SOPs to monitor them, maintenance ... If airlines could dispense with the costs of wingwalkers and some of the other ground crew then they certainly would.

[@lr._ry]

speedbird 2. poor little airplane was so hype for its 7 hour journey across the pond

[@bohony]

Wonderful job VASAviation!

[@SeaSkyCity]

I hate it when this happens. The worst part is trying to get their insurance information

[@evasmith2705]

I lift my hat for the air traffic controllers!🍷

[@JennyWinters]

I'm proud of my ex bf from 30 years ago that is a DFW controller and we were such kids just teens and how he's ATC and even maybe saved my life flying into Dallas, whilst I'm an RN saving anybody without air.

[@coronapapi]

Thanks for the video! The Virgin Air couldn't believe it. lol

[@Marcho978]

Those two planes taxied back to the gate like 2 bad boys being marched to the principals office for doing something mischievous 😂😂😂

[@mikeownby]

"or perform a 180" is actually "as opposed to a 180". You are completely changing the entire meaning of what's being said.

[@kvarner6886]

My god, this may be the slowest and clearest I've ever heard a NY Controller speak on frequency. And he was so patient with Virgin. They DO exist. "Yes, Virginia, there IS a Santa Claus!"

[@Phili2012]

Some of us are just so wide that we lose sight of the edges of our girth.

[@InsaneClown2]

9:04 I love how well ground translates truck 1's plan for the pilots

[@Crafting_Through_Life]

Correct me if I’m wrong here but shouldn’t ATC have stopped all traffic when they knew the first plane was having issues instead of telling the second plane to continue to taxi?! Essentially the pilots all did what they were told to do and that resulted in their wingtips colliding. So basically that ATC guy is now unemployed.

[@brettlawton9513]

🤔🗯 Umm this never would've happened with Kennedy Steve on the job 💯💯💯💯

[@flynnlivescmd]

Richard is the pilot of all virgin flights. Simultaneous

[@BIOHAZARDXXXX]

Fantastic, we appreciate your effort!

[@VASAviation]

Thanks :)

[@pavelavietor1]

Hello thanks for you great work the animations are excellent. Saludos Iberian

[@gooner72]

Egypt Air obviously operates their aircraft on the ground like they drive in the traffic in Cairo......

[@mrk.dilkington]

"Car94, just go back to the canteen please..."

[@dontworryaboutit5989]

Ok I do appreciate the effort you put into these, but I'm finding alot of transcription errors. Like at 10:56 he doesn't say he is with the crew of Engine, he says he is with the crew of Egyptair and Virgin. Finding alot of things like this. Just wanted to point it out so you were aware. Now, back to the video

[@bobsto997]

Bit of a casual attitude to debris being left behind on the taxiway i thought.

[@jetuber]

Well, it's not like a Concorde is going to run over it, launch it against its fuel tank, then turn into a flying inferno, or anything . . .

[@AdamLeuer]

Sounds like Jon Benjamin has really settled into his new life as a ground controller.

[@treyn8070]

Archer handling ATC 😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@DefinitelyNotaRussianSpy]

“Egypt air pull over onto the run up ramp and let’s try again with speed bird”

[@Jeppelelle]

Why not tell Egyptair to move forwards to K1 or just before K1 to let BAW2 take K2 to line-up on the runway for takeoff while they sort their wingtip stuff out?

[@luckegaming]

Maybe they weren't sure whether the ground is clear and noyhing will damage the tires of other aircrafts.

[@VASAviation]

Probably because of possible debris on the floor which may cause damage to the aircraft tyres.

[@dannyphantomvision]

damage to wing = possible damage to fuel tanks, even the majority of them are in the fuselage...

[@iRxyanDestinygtaandmoreL]

debris can get sucked into the engine,

[@iRxyanDestinygtaandmoreL]

16:10

[@marekadboy]

Kudos to u guys!!

[@brianlacroix822]

THE JFK. i LOVE IT. i hope every video of yours that takes place at JFK refers to it as THE JFK. there aint no airport in the world like THE JFK!!!!

[@JennyWinters]

JFK designed for horse and carriage and made somewhat functional for wide body craft zillions of years later. TY that I've never had to stop or depart there. I made it out of DC in the 70's with massive construction in the airport by following a guy with a jacket with my hometown on it. I had to wait for him to go to the restroom. I was 15 and flying alone. But I followed this guy to get to the right gate. Now looking back I am wondering WTF my 15 year old self in 1977 thought about this mess. Just scared of first time flight alone with plane changes. Knowing what I do now, how if the eff did any of the aircraft from the 1970's not all crash and burn.

[@Cupra-290]

When wing tip clearance is not assured it is the PIC responsibility to ensure it is safe to continue. Ultimately the Egyptair shouldn't have continued taxi.

[@neoberi2611]

There's another VASA video where a pilot is in the same situation and stops the airplane (with wingwalkers) due to safety concerns and questions the ATC. The ATC says something along the lines of "oh so you control ground now?"

[@karekarenz7604]

I'd need a strong cup of tea and a lie down if I was an ATC sorting out this mess.

[@FranzNaitsab]

That Pilot needs Side Mirrors.

[@GeneralJackRipper]

Funny thing is, the Virgin is the one at fault. They were told to taxi onto the run-up pad and go as far up as possible, but they stopped immediately after entering the pad.

[@2HYPR]

Ahh your read back is incorrect what GRND said was this - "Pull off to the right, all the way to the right as far as you can on the runup pad" so nothing about going up the run-up pad to the end - just over to the right as far as poss from 4L... 3:55 for your ref

[@joshbarc]

Yes. I was waiting for this one.

[@nadersherif5712]

4:18 I would have loved to see the look on the pilots face when the egyptair hit his wing *_Tow..._* Also, The Egyptair just clipped our wing, 4:37 *_Clipped_*

[@machsaga5141]

At 5:47, the subtitles said "on their route to assist" but this is incorrect. Tower actually said "...vehicles on their way as we speak".

[@iRxyanDestinygtaandmoreL]

16:11 i think he said "ok so he can "power" taxi"

[@VASAviation]

That is absolutely right ;)

[@leo33125]

i think all this was on the controller, because he can easily get first one in kilo 1 and the other in kilo 2 and then chose who depart first....

[@waveyloo]

This is how it’d go down if I was the egyptair pilot **Hits wing tip** Virgin air pilot: Egyptair just hit my wing! Me: **gasps** I’m so so so so sorry!! I happen to say sorry for everything

[@MrOstereier]

So you are canadian!

[@johnnyh8731]

This is what happens when you play , " JUST The TIP"

[@CoffeeMatt10]

The tip gets damaged? O.o

[@dx1450]

The bad part is that when something like this happens, it's hard for the pilots to exchange insurance cards.

[@Makdives]

i suggest to add camera on tail for pilots to see whole the plane .... or side mirrors like cars if possible :D

[@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043]

Makady Moaz • Brilliant idea! Also would help pilots see the engines in case of malfunction, not having to rely on flight attendants or even passengers, wasting precious time relating what they see out the window.

[@VASAviation]

Some airplanes already have a camera on the tail which covers about 100º view.

[@JohnSmith-dh3kx]

How about cameras in the fuel tanks. That would have prevented several past incidents.

[@Alex-us2vw]

Could even just use those sensors on car bumpers that use sonar to gauge distance. Mount a few pointing various angles on each wing tip.

[@davidzachmeyer1957]

Wingtip cameras would be useful in a situation like this.

[@valhallaforever1]

What was the need for Virgin to pull off the runway to begin with? Did they forget their maps and plans?

[@Dowlphin]

Seriously? The small plane worries them regarding wingtip clearance, with plenty of people on site to look at whether it fits? Generally it would have been great if Virgin had moved further ahead, with K1 and K2 being so close. Great job at blocking both. Leaving small debris is odd. Risky, I'd assume. Not just because of the engines, but also the tires. A busy airport like JFK should have a kind of vacuum cleaner vehicle that can render a taxiway as clean as it can be.

[@JennyWinters]

If only JFK could be like Nascar and clean up the tracks, I hear you.

[@thegeneralissimo470]

Keep in mind, this is all the transmissions back to back. Usually it's very quiet for long periods of time at some airports.

[@chuckycheese84]

The two planes afterwards give one another a number to call

[@Dowlphin]

Those muslim airlines just can't stay away from Virgin. xD

[@newtonianromance]

lmao ur a god

[@call911forcookies2]

ouch, that one was good!

[@911shan]

Hahahaha that was a great one!

[@ahmedalnajar749]

atleast those muslim airlines some of them have the world world best airline like Emirates airways qatar airways Eitihad airways.

[@jackrowbotham1315]

Mr_ Pro_ Gamer don't get triggered it's a joke

[@AdhamNafea]

Great work, well done

[@TheEmeraldMenOfficial]

If planes could talk: Virgin Atlantic: “Hey, you lost the V-Card! High five, dude!” Egyptair: “Owww... that hurt, VA!”

[@pavelavietor1]

Hello thanks IVAO-XA nice job thanks. Saludos Bro

[@jeffreywonser3241]

Great job, JFK controllers!! What a goat rope.

[@fras444]

5:25 "Aw fuck it!!!" I bet is what they meant to say

[@prankmonkey650]

That’s gonna be a lot of paperwork.

[@BenjaminBeckerBerlin]

13:08 "okay that would be our preferred method - taxiing ahead to KILO 2 - as opposed to a 180, but we are perfectly able to do that"

[@Partizan125]

You've got a hole in your left wing!

[@umkm2k]

Are there random planes parked in the grass at JFK? What's with those green ones in the empty spaces?

[@eken81]

CAR 94 in my mind messed up at about 10:20 by telling what they wanted to do instead of asking permission from ATC. ATC: Say again... gave CAR94 a chance to correct himself, but he didn't.

[@robmullin1128]

So the Pilot flying the Virgin plane didn't stop to think, "hmmmmm maybe I should pull further ahead so my left wing doesn't get clipped". SMH!

[@oubrioko]

Who is to blame for the collision? 1. Egyptair 2. Virgin Atlantic 3. Kennedy Ground 4. Obama 5. Trump 6. All of the above 7. None of the above

[@VASAviation]

Aviation is not about searching for people to blame.

[@gomphrena-beautifulflower-8043]

oubrioko haha. Very clever!

[@mcplutt]

Bill Gates

[@Justin.D.DC4L]

Clearly trump is to blame.

[@AdamCchannel]

Well... some say Obama is Egyptair, so... 😂

[@yada3844]

a boeing 777 and a airbus a330 colliding wings lightly.... an accurate presentation of the market between them (airbus and boeing) , i say, because all they do is try to make better planes, clashing lightly at each other, they never go in and sabotage them or anything

[@BratSimpson]

I'd pin the blame on virgin. ATC: Pull off to the right, all the way to the right as far as you can on the run-up pad. Clearly he wasn't quite there.

[@ikarlhd1]

BratSimpson Theres no centre line to follow.. the pilot is blind effectively guessing his clearance to the grass. Egypt at fault as they were the aircraft moving at the time. There was nothing to stop them asking for a marshaller.

[@MegaWeebles]

Shouldn't you be Pratsimpson?

[@Dowlphin]

Had they been instructed to not just move all the way to the right but also as far to the end as they can without foiling turning radius, they'd have cleared a path to K2. It's unfortunate that with two routes to the runway so close to each other, both ended up blocked. Maybe an ATC with better instincts would have sensed the potential problem arising.

[@JennyWinters]

@@Dowlphin Well what happens when Egypt Air goes to the end and turns left, won't they still hit Virgin's wings? What difference the length, it's the width that is the issue. Everyone should have just stopped till Virgin got their shit together and taxied.

[@bedoublewide]

03:53 JFK Tower: "Speed-bird Pull off to the right all the way to the right as far as you can on to the run-up pad" I don't know much about ATC but he should of told speed bird plane to pull off of the right and go as far up as possible to the end of run-up pad (or even hold-short of kilo1 if enough spacing) to allow other aircraft behind to taxi onto Kilo 2.