Your BUYING and USING Milwaukee M18 Batteries ALL WRONG! (stop doing this)

[@VCGConstruction]

Your BUYING Milwaukee Tools M18 FORGE Battery with WRONG EXPECTATIONS (stop doing this) kzbin.info/www/bejne/sH-QYXl-pJekfqc

[@mark-kf3md]

The is guy is the equivalent of a keyboard with the caps lock permanently stuck on.

[@Suspect002]

Well when the in game lobby music is that loud wherever he is, you gotta talk loud.

[@ssstars2.0]

Lol

[@sammypotpie]

The intro...smh. it's why I work for myself in construction.

[@BeeRockk4]

Hahahaha!!

[@thegoodfight365]

You nailed the description of this guy.

[@zachmelton1114]

This man’s passion for Milwaukee battery usage is nothing less than inspiring.

[@voidisyinyangvoidisyinyang885]

The impact drill is a pleasure to use, day in and day out.

[@emmanuelnorena4732]

HAHAHAHA

[@Loadedgoods]

Honestly I think He took 3 lines of blow right before filming.

[@rayray8687]

@@Loadedgoods: Last time I saw someone this ‘animated’ he was on the back end of a crack pipe, lol.

[@Loadedgoods]

@@rayray8687 slap chop ads

[@alfredoowns12]

Electrician here, I made the change from Dewalt to Milwaukee 2 years ago. And the performance and quality has been night and day. Been investing in batteries as of late and the HO batteries are amazing. I do shutdowns pretty often and use my 5.0s for my lights and the HO 3.0s on the cable cable cutters, impact, and drill. 2.0s on the cable strippers and 6.0s on the vac (for longer runtime) its amazing how much more efficient everything is having the right tools. Lol

[@rene7636]

Good choice. I used to manage a fleet of trucks, toolcrib and warehouse for a larger company in Alberta, Canada and all of the power tools were Milwaukee. And our guys were super rough on tools lol. I was never one to buy brand name but Milwaukee has blown me away. Now I've made the switch and everything I own is from them 😁

[@mikedimarco3008]

I enjoy Milwaukee Tools am also an Electrician. Will 3.0 HO battery on a fuel hammer drill using a 1 inch auger bit to drill wood studs work? I use a 5.0Xc battery on my hammer drill.

[@nhaake]

@@mikedimarco3008 I don't care what anyone says. That 3 amp battery will be dead on that drill right away.

[@prayforparis422]

i thought you said milwaukee to dewalt at first and i was going to shit on your beliefs

[@DavidPerez-fr1hb]

This must be a lie cause what are you using a shop vac for? electricians don’t clean up😂

[@2point2]

Vince is so animated that he requires safety glasses while talking. 👀

[@Texasbroski512]

🤣🤣🤣

[@speckulator7516]

He’ll put his eye out with those hands Kid!

[@breserker666]

So true!

[@gzus1482]

He's so animated I need ear plugs. 😂😂😂

[@leozarate7807]

Póngalo en español por favor

[@jasonfritz8782]

When you pulled out that light I thought Milwaukee came out with an M18 bazooka.

[@VCGConstruction]

🤣👍🏻

[@sbeast1216]

Me too lol

[@jonahkaiguam]

HAH! IM NOT THE ONLY ONE

[@InsuranceIsLegalizedRobbery]

JonahKai Guam Neither me the last one! Lol

[@405adriano]

One day my friend, one day.

[@Methodical2]

This is what I needed. I am fairly new to the Milwaukee brand and was so confused by all of the battery offerings. Some tools came with the 5.0XC and others came the 8.0 battery. I will keep all this in mind when I am in the market for batteries.

[@menoceno123]

As steel construction worker. I have to say there’s still an upside to having 5.0 batteries. Putting a 6.0 makes your tool significantly heavier. Plus it throws off the balance of your tool. (1/4 impact,1/2 drill specifically) proper balance makes putting in screws in awkward angles way easier. And the the lifetime of a 5.0 is still really good

[@blackhole6828]

I agree with you

[@SSGTWinters]

yeah i put up signs for a living and you can have all the power you'd like ... are you willing to snap yoru wrist for it when the screw you need to tap is at an upside down angle

[@designertjp-utube]

Agreed. Thanks to Vince, I'm now hunting for discount prices of the lightweight Red Lithium *XC* *5.0* Batteries on Amazon. As a Sign Painter who's sometimes up 27 feet with one hand on the ladder and my other hand working a Milwaukee, I look like a trained Monkey. I need way less ounces in my hand and more *Bananas* for Lunch.

[@mikeloks7560]

@@designertjp-utube Dewalt atomic with powerstack 🙏🙌

[@maxnovakovics2568]

My crewmate has 3.0s and 5.0s. The 3s are okay on the nail gun but the 6 1/2 saw doesnt have the balls to cut much without a 5.0

[@beni7928]

Reason to run XC5.0, because it's the damn battery I have.

[@kevinp7682]

If its not damaged, is it still a good one. 🤷

[@youngrevival9715]

True if I’m on the job and my bigger battery dies I’m using the small one until the job is done or the big battery is charger

[@m2rkiller]

There is barley any difference in the battery's anyways..

[@froztout]

@Ben I Good enough reason for me 🤷

[@sjohnson5813]

@@m2rkiller not true in some cases. I have the super hole hawg right angle drill. My 3.0 battery can not handle my 3" forstner bit. But if I put my 8.0 on there, drills through like butter

[@sjcali6161]

For the common household or small business this totally makes sense. For us not so much. Milwaukee batteries have a 3 year warranty and tools have a 5 year. They break and I get a replacement way before that 3 or 5 years are up. Not because they are cheap but because they get used all day everyday constantly being used. I’ve been with Milwaukee for years and wouldn’t go any other direction.

[@pmacksc15]

Just found your channel and now I’m 10 videos deep. Can’t get enough of this detailed info that is consumers need!

[@user-lf6rf8se7n]

Corporate Purchasing Agent here, I buy/sell Milwaukee on behalf of a major construction supply distributor. Your information is 100% accurate and factual. From one expert to another; well done Sir.

[@walkthroughs00000]

3.0 and 5.0 for one handed tools, 8.0 for two handed and 12.0 for stationary stuff. I still feel like the 5.0 is versatile and not obsolete. Significantly smaller than the 6.0 and 8.0 while having more runtime than the 3.0

[@rbfarmer4522]

Pretty much what you need to know and it only took common sense and 30sec to read. BTW-Did you type this while wearing safety glasses and waving your arms around?

[@mr.wizeguy8995]

I have 6.0 which is same size as 5.0.

[@larrytheplumber9851]

🤣

[@mondavou9408]

@@rbfarmer4522 AWESOME!! I only made it :70 seconds into the video before I had to stop it. I knew it was going to irritate the living crap out of me and was hoping someone would summarize it.

[@mondavou9408]

Nice Thank You.

[@colemanbonner]

You gotta talk about the difference between the XC6.0 and XC8.0 batteries. Same cell count, but different amp output ratings. The 6.0 can put out more amperage at less voltage drop, the 8.0 can deliver longer run-time. The 6.0 is superior for high-load tools like saws

[@thekingsilverado8419]

And he is not mentioning the Hypo batteries also use diff chargers too. I found that out the hard with Rigid crap. Stay with Makita. They have slipped a little but not as bad as that way over priced Chocom made Millwakee

[@ZVPieGuy]

@@thekingsilverado8419 The high outputs don’t really use different chargers though. They will charge faster on a rapid charger, but they are still compatible with the old chargers.

[@TheAnimalsMagicShop]

New tool user here - My Milwaukee M18 oscillating tool, not Fuel, came with 2.0 and 5.0 batteries with charger. The kit was a "special buy" through Home Depot for $199 - regularly $359. Now I know why the price was reduced. But I'm a 65 year old female with small hands that have some damage so I like the lighter weight of the batteries. Sometimes you need to go with what works for your budget and body, but I appreciate this video and will keep the 3.0 and 6.0 in mind for the future - thanks!

[@TheMartinChronicles]

Sounds like you got a really good deal as Milwaukee is a top of the line tool company. What this man is talking about is buying separate batteries in the future, the ones that came in your kit are just fine. Also you may or may not be aware of the M12 line that is considerably more compact and light weight than the M18 without sacrificing a substantial amount of power. Since you are already invested in the M18 line though, it may not make too much financial sense to move into a separate line.

[@harpoon_bakery162]

the M12 line (as Marian Chronicles mentioned), is more compact and is really a good line of batteries. 199 is not bad for that combo of products. the 2.0 & 5.0 with charger is normally $249.00 just buy itself (09/04/2023). But that's the M12 line. Much less the oscillating tool you got with the deal. I would consider going to the M12 Fuel line however.

[@user-ry5zu1dd6q]

Honey, you are doing just fine!! You are buying then BEST OF THE BEST tools and got a great deal. Don’t worry about the batteries being mentioned here. This is more for the PROFESSIONALS who need to consider what he is talking about. The tool you bought and the batteries that came with it will last you a LIFETIME. You got a great deal!!

[@JosVanWeesel]

I've never used a Milwaukee M18 battery in my life but this man convinced me I've used them all wrong!

[@jdreynolds29]

It should be mentioned for people with older tools that the belt clips do not allow for a high output battery pack and you will have to remove the belt clip in order to use the high output pack however call 1-800 sawdust and they will send you the new belt clip for free that will allow for the high output packs

[@Username-ng8jy]

Cool man. Thanks.

[@codirt6735]

Or just bend them a bit

[@rl2769]

You can bend them and make it work.

[@galvanizedgnome]

Just bend them with your purse

[@jamesrussell6870]

@@galvanizedgnome 😂😂

[@Juanpinedabrito]

I purchased a 3.0 High output and 2 6.0 high output use them whole days worth of work 8 hours on a constant use and still have battery left by the end of the day. All day running strong.

[@presidentspilot]

GREAT INFO!! I don't care if the speaker is an absolute MANIAC!! LOL! I am a 'Milwaukee Newby' and I learned a heck of a LOT from his INVALUABLE information!

[@4theview87]

My company is finally starting to get off the ground. I've been watching your videos for years. I appreciate your advice. Thank you.

[@someguy8523]

This is old school VCG beast mode this why I became a member.

[@zzmalone6720]

I totally agree with your explanation! Well said!! Not too long ago I did exactly this and paired up my lights/vacuums with non-high output batteries. Batteries only last so many charging cycles. Definitely wanted to make the most of my investment. Great video, I’m sure this has helped a lot of people. Well done! 👍🏻

[@VCGConstruction]

Awesome ZZ, we appreciate the feedback!

[@Methodical2]

It definitely helped me.

[@rsz90182]

This guy says a lot I mean a lot of words to say something you can just say "get a higher amp/hr battery for longer usage."

[@WaynesWorld999]

The general rule is - Use the biggest battery you reasonably can on any given tool. Not necessarily capacity. More cells = good. Bigger cells = good. Higher capacity = not always good. Its a trade off between capacity and current capability. The 3Ah 21700 cells have a higher current rating than the 4Ah, so the HO6 will perform better than the HO8, but the HO12 will perform better again, but has 50% more cells and therefore extra weight.

[@jamesmancine8350]

It doesn't matter what size battery you use in your tool as long as you realize your trading runtime for weight that's all. For example the 9AH has 15-3AH 18650's inside it. The 12AH has 15-4AH 21700's. None of the batteries are obsolete. Basically there are the CP models which are compact in size. The HD models are just double and triple stacked cells inside to give you longer runtime however, they are going to make your overall tool heavier. Putting a larger amp hour battery on your tool will make the tool perform slightly better. The voltage sag or drop will not be as substantial on the higher amp hour batteries as it will on the compact series or smaller amp hour so for example the suction on a vacuum will remain more constant with a larger capacity battery than with a smaller one.

[@jasoncook5307]

18650 batteries will recharge more times before they internally fail, they have a lower discharge amperage but will last many more cycles...they last so long they outlive the case. There are only a handful of tools that might benefit from the higher discharge amperage batteries but those batteries are heavier and discharge faster and take longer to charge.

[@michaelmeathammer5688]

I’ve had one 18650 failure in eight years. I have about half a dozen 21700 packs in my garage that are junk after maybe 40 cycles. I’m starting to get pissed off.

[@lacboiatl]

Stop yelling at me. Ok. Yell at me now. I've been doing it all wrong

[@OlTrailDog]

As a former journeyman carpenter I've been a Mauwakee fan for years. I built my metal home and a wood framed/metal skinned building with Milwaukee M18v tools (drill, rotary concrete drill, 1/4 impact driver) and older NiCad saws (metal, wood, reciprocating saws) with M18 adapter. Yesterday my M18 3/8 impact arrived. All four batteries I've constantly used were 5.0XC. I have been truly impressed by the durability of the M18 tools and batteries. I will typically default to a worm gear or table saw if it involves extensive ripping of dimensional lumber. I give a definite thumbs up to how Milwaukee M18s have performed.

[@darkoresnik75]

Vince, thank you so much for this channel. I always knew good tools made a difference, but what I thought were good were nothing compared to the tools you've recommended in your videos. Over the past few months, I've bought Milwaukee M18 versions of the power tools I use regularly and a good tool belt. I don't know how I ever functioned without any of them before. I enjoy doing projects again and can actually finish them much faster and with better results. Keep up the good work. You have a fan for life.

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks Cuz, we appreciate it! 👍🏻

[@bjmcmahon722]

Well said...took the words right out of my mouth! I have taken the same road as you, much more knowledgeable & happier since i started watching this channel..

[@kurtdussander4944]

I reckon these new batteries are a little better than the NiCad ones we used back in the 60’s. A little bit anyhow.

[@RandomAmerican]

The 6.0 actually puts out more power in impacts than any other battery

[@nbates9893]

Yeah you saw that video where those nerds basically put all the batteries on a dyno and the 6 was the most powerful? Lmao

[@RandomAmerican]

I did and it seems like its good information. It may not be the end all be all but it give you something in front of you to look at

[@2491kridge]

I’ve never been more excited to go purchase battery’s than I am now after listening to this dude 😂

[@VCGConstruction]

🙌

[@kochatj]

After watching this, my ears are bleeding but I definitely understand the differences in the M18 battery variants. This was a better use of my 10 minutes than most KZbin videos I watch!

[@TJAllcot]

Absolutely love the 6.0 batteries, much better piece of equipment than the 5.0s. I ran a 5.0 on my router and it drained quickly, switched to a 6.0 and it last much longer as well as performed much better.

[@daniellugaro445]

So replace the xc 4.0 on my 1/2 impact ? I can't even get lug nuts off cars .

[@Captain_Dark]

@@daniellugaro445 Yea

[@dalebassett9701]

@@daniellugaro445 what impact gun you using ?

[@dalebassett9701]

@@daniellugaro445 I just purchased milawaukee m18 onefhiwf12-0 impact gun it has 1989nm of breakaway torque and using a 5.0ah without a struggle on setting 3 on the gun alone and still have no 4 to use if needed ?

[@user-ry5zu1dd6q]

I call BS

[@MrEricld1]

Great vid Vince. Everyone should do their homework on any platform. Especially Dewalt. They can be a bit confusing. On my Milwaukees, I use the 5.0s that came with kits on lights, radio and oscillating saw. The rest I use H.O. 3s and 8s. The only reason I don't use 12s yet is the charge time and the expense of the Super charger. The best battery deal was the H.O 3 and 8 amp pack for around $165. Now they have a 3 and 6 amp deal for $150 which is ok, but 8s are a better option. Especially for any high torque tool. I've seen the 3s and 8s at a few places for $199 which IMO is worth it. Trips back and forth to the charger suck. Not mentioning battery life. Milwaukee needs to step up to the plate and offer some dual bay super charger, two pack battery deals with 8s and 12s. Give us heavy haulers something to work with. 👷

[@privateparker5698]

Northern tool has a deal where there are 2 6.0 h.o. with the option of a tool. For $200

[@LorandHungary]

I got 3 5.5ah and 1 12ah battery for the M18 version. Got the 12ah , because i also have the chainsaw and the Quick-Lok. The 5.5's came from a kit. Planning to get a 3.0 m18 , cuz the size is small and would be nice for around the house work. Don't really need more M18 batteries , since i am going more into the m12 lineup.

[@NightOfTheLiving8bit]

DeWalt made it even worse with their ‘Atomic’ line now too. Rather than Milwaukee having their standard line, and Fuel line. Of course they jumped up to a brushless line, but that’s just a normal evolution of tools.

[@vinniethefinger7781]

Good stuff and a Godsend! The battery jungle has become brutal since last I picked up a saw (about 15 years ago) and this one single video answered every question I had. Now it's time for some FUEL!

[@TheBlaert]

At work we bought a couple of Milwaukee copy batteries (made by Waitley) for research purposes. They were a third of the price and when we opened them up they had the exact same Samsung cells inside. 2 years later and they're going strong

[@StarionJA]

The high output batteries work great in Drills, Grinders and direct drive tools and they will stall less under hard work, however in a clutch driven tool like impact systems their isn't as much gain as power output is limited by the clutch slipping and hammering action and more motor power won't really help you. I prefer the 3, 6 and 9 variety as they will outperform the 4, 8 and 12 for current draw as some others have mentioned. It will take a lot more to overheat and damage these 21700 based batteries than the older 18650's.

[@user-tw8dl2jh2x]

The 21700 cells arent newer than the 18650 cells, they're just identical but a different size. Each cell is bigger so it has higher Voltage and amp output etc You can get the same effect by using more 18650 batteries, but because of the size the whole battery would be too big. So in regards to 21700 being more reliable or handling more than 18650, this is wrong, it's just that the 21700 habe a big overhead with a battery the similar size

[@WorkHarder14]

great point about the clutch

[@LzysGraphics]

@@user-tw8dl2jh2x boy is this a bad read, higher voltage lol.

[@user-tw8dl2jh2x]

@@LzysGraphics huh?

[@LzysGraphics]

@@user-tw8dl2jh2x lithium-ion batteries are all 3.7 volts, ranging from around 3.1 - 4.2 on a full cell. 21700 and 18650s don’t have different voltages, nor do they have different discharges or output simply because they are a different size. The size difference allows for a larger capacity which you didn’t mention.

[@ontheroadwithyode390]

The information you offer....is appreciated. Your delivery.....makes me feel like I need to defend myself. From a marketing point of view....not friendly. I feel like I'm being attacked....Im out.

[@TheIronSnakeYT]

The 5.0 battery fits the Rover light flush. If you use the 6.0 it sticks out beyond the body of the light, which obstructs the magnets, making it hard to mount on flat surfaces. So, it does pay to have them on hand if you plan on mounting the light with the magnets.

[@peanutbutterisfu]

I bought a battery spot welder, some spare cells and I just replace a cell or 2 when a battery stops working. I’ve been doing this for years. One of my 5.0 batteries that’s almost 8 years old that gets used 5 days a week stopped working 6 months ago I replaced 2 cells and here we are 6 months later getting used everyday and works just fine.

[@elbabyboy20]

Am going to continue using my 5.0 batteries in my impact driver n drill they work good and haven't had any problems whatsoever I do have HO batteries 3 6 8 12 😁

[@karenriley8529]

Hi, He did not say there was a problem with the battery assigned to the tool. He IS dropping knowledge which delivers more drove time and productivity. When you KNOW better you Do better❣ The choice is yours at the end of the day.. He's Just distributing options/ knowledge. It was out of passion this video was made. DON'T take it personally. Please, have a BLESSED day🤗

[@karenriley8529]

Drive time . Try to enlighten everyone on how to "Get more BANG for your Buck:

[@elbabyboy20]

@@karenriley8529 I totally understand and I know there's no problem like I said 5.0 for the impact driver and drill 😉 The 5.0 has plenty of power for those little tools the rest like a grinder or an impact wrench or sawzall use the HO batteries for more run time and power but

[@cardo1111]

When the gasket equipped Milwaukee safety glasses are on, I know Vince means business.

[@canogaparque818]

Thats FUEL Vince at work there🤣

[@VCGConstruction]

🤣👍🏻

[@mrniusi11]

here's the deal…

[@TheAnointedOne7]

Believe it or not, this video was actually really helpful and informative for the average young adult that knows not much about these tools and batteries. I'm looking at buying a milwaukee 1/2" high torque impact wrench but do not want to get the bundle that comes with the typical XC5.0, but rather buy the battery and charger separately so that i purchase the preferred high output high demand 12.0 Ah battery pack with charger station. It'll be more pricey, but will definitely be worth the money in terms of quality, power, and run time. Thanks for the info for sure

[@frederikjacobs552]

I'm now buying these batteries like crazy and I don't even own any Milwaukee tools! Vince is the best! 😅

[@eieio6641]

Milwaukee needs to make a belt battery pack adapter with a coiled cord and adapter to tool. Battery on belt would make all tools much lighter.

[@arnoldfung4939]

Makita done it.

[@jamesrussell6870]

& then you're back to a corded tool????

[@eieio6641]

@@jamesrussell6870 Yes, a corded, lighter tool you can use anywhere. Would be nice for chainsaw, hedge trimmer, etc.

[@jamesrussell6870]

@@eieio6641 So when you have a half dozen or more tools in use at jobsite you have to plug & unplug tool each time?

[@joshuakemblebluegrass838]

I’d rather have a little extra weight than a tether like that, weight don’t bother me lol

[@TheTradesmanLU2001]

Agreed on the 3.0 ho and I love the $99 special but the deal only comes around once a year in my area and they sell out fast. Typically they cost 169 for the 2 pack . I just picked up a fairly good deal yesterday 2x 5.0 xc., a charger and a jigsaw for $200. I thought it was a decent price so I went with it . I needed the extra batteries since my vac and portable fan were tool only purchases. I totally get your point, imo sometimes a good deal makes something seem like a good idea especially since my power tools are all just for personal home use. Company issues us all battery powered Hilti tools🤷🏻‍♂️ . I don’t feel like they’re more powerful, they are super heavy duty in terms of say dropping a drill or impact off a 10’ ladder or drilling stone that requires coolant that splatters sludge all over the tool day in day out . Milwaukee still my fav though 👍🏻

[@ooklah671]

I didn’t think I was go through this entire video but for some reason, I’m glad I did

[@FischtankProductions]

i dont even need new batteries but after watching this mans charisma, Im heading to home depot now.

[@m.a.4084]

Completely agree. Over the past 2 years I swapped over to the HO, went with multiples of the CP 3.0 the XC 6.0 and the HD 12.0 been a great switch. All I use my XC 5.0 and HD 9.0 are mainly for lighting, vacuum, a few non fuel tools and the top off charger. Good info for everyone to know, complete truth. If you keep your eyes peeled and have patience there’s great deals that pop on the HO 3.0 and 6.0 packs.

[@sergemarlon]

You might want to reconsider that top-off usage. My phone went from "Fast charging" to "Super fast charging" by switching from my 9.0 to my 8.0. the charging times changed from estimated 129 minutes to 107 minutes.

[@m.a.4084]

@@sergemarlon that’s a nice improvement in charge time. I’m gonna give that go next time.

[@ethanduke813]

How much is a good deal?

[@m.a.4084]

@@ethanduke813 for the HO 3.0 $99-119 for two packs. Hadn’t seen many 2 packs of HO lately, but $199-229. Used to be a combo with a 3.0 and 6.0 I got couple years ago for $169 but probably higher now, if they still do them. Hadn’t seen those in a while.

[@ethanduke813]

@@m.a.4084 i see the high output 3 and 8 for 200

[@MyNameJeff-ck4sb]

This is the best millwaukee video ever. I was just thinking of asking what batteries would you give to your workers for all day use but light enough to carry around?

[@ucnhtmenow1]

My boss is a Milwaukee finatic and that is all you will see in the warehouse. We do have a lot of issues with his batteries and drills, which is why I just bring in my DeWalt stuff, and is also why I can't say Milwaukee is the "best", but this may be good for him to know. The biggest issue I have with Milwaukee, is the fact that the drill stops working sometimes, because of the processor, and I have to take the battery off and put it back on for it to work. No matter the reason, it's an inconvenience and I shouldn't have to do that and have never done that with any other drill I've ever used.

[@ppheanix]

It is is standard practice in mass manufacturing to minimize costs by having the minimum number of different size battery packs (or any other product packs). Standardizing Battery Pack dimensions is standard practice and also ensures the most cost efficient external packaging for shipping, especially when the small pack sized is a whole number multiple of the large pack in the shipping carton. This means the most cost efficient packaging for transport is when they only have to order one box/carton size and label it before shipping to retailers. To ensure the best price for incoming parts, manufacturers often standardize on sizes in a range of capacities to give customers the choice of battery pack capacity and energy output. This also ensures that any mass production machinery can be set and left for each pack dimension for labeling and testing without the need for changeover setup time costs.

[@malventano]

For the highest demand tools, the 6.0 can outrun the 8.0 - the 8.0 cells only have a longer runtime at lower current draws due to the compromise made for a higher capacity cell of the same physical size.

[@reddbeard2030]

Wow. Great insight. Thanks!

[@ucitymetalhead]

Yeah I didn't know that thanks. What about the 12 ah is it the same way.

[@trekmcdonald9608]

Ya know I actually looked into this because typically it's either high discharge or high capacity. 21700 3 and 4 ah batteries both claim 35amp cells which means the higher capacity of the 4ah cells doesn't result in lower discharge rate. (As comparison 18650 2ah are 30amp while 2.5ah are only 20 amp) however during testing by multiple sources the 6 outperforms the 8. Meaning that altho the factory specs are identical in discharge ability, in real life, they are not. As far as the 8 and 12 being interchangable as far as power..... At least according to the numbers that shouldn't be a thing. The 8 is only a 70 amp battery while the 12 is a 105 amp so for massive draw tools like their supersawzall that claims wall power off of 18v (actually 21 since we typically test tools with full batteries) means the tool has to draw 85+ amps at 21v to make the same power as 15 amps on 120. Drop that to 18v and it's 100 amps. Now efficiency certainly plays a part but power is power and numbers are numbers. The 12 has way more available power because it's 15 cells instead of 10 with the same voltage so it has half again the available amps.

[@malventano]

@@ucitymetalhead the 12’s have the same cells as the 8’s, but because there are 50% more cells, each cell sees 50% less current for a given load. This means that heavier loads on a 12.0 pack will be easier on the cells vs. with an 8.0, and the 12.0 cells will be able to stick closer to their rated capacity. If you have a crazy high draw tool and want to use a 10 cell pack, you may be better off with the 6.0 than with the 8.0. This same thing apples to the M12 4.0XC vs. 6.0XC.

[@ucitymetalhead]

@@malventano thanks for the explanation i didn't know rhat especially about the m12 batteries

[@TheBumpothegreat]

Great video. It has taken me a while to piece this all together. Didn't know about the HD 9.0 NOT being one of the "High Output" ones. Milwaukee could stand to clean this up a bit in the future.

[@landscapingspecialist]

Slayer 🤘🏻😈🤘🏻

[@mysterycomment1553]

The 9.0 still works fine and lasts a hell of a long time on basically all fuel tools.

[@joshmondragon5818]

@@mysterycomment1553 how long does it last compared to the 8.0?

[@brandini2557]

The only person I Watch a video before I buy a tool is this guy

[@pointnozzleaway]

ALL my Milwaukee stuff works AWESOME for what I do. Just Home Stuff. I get depressed & my anxiety max's out every time I watch this channel now

[@IllInformedHuman]

"YOUR buying and using Milwaukee..." Reading this video title caused me physical pain.

[@m2rkiller]

So for starters, me having literally every battery they have, a lot of this information is incorrect. When your running a bigger or smaller battery in a tool that requires more battery power, or battery life I like to say, it does not make any difference at all! If I use the tiny little XC, versus the 9.0 (which is also NOT out dated as stated in the video) in like my circular saw or my impact, I do not loose any power nor do I gain any power. The only difference is that the XC will end up dieing sooner. He says in the video they don't make any difference on lights, that's because they don't make a power difference period! They are all 18 volts so they aren't going to produce any more power, but the bigger ones last longer. Want to save your arm, get a XC, want to do the whole job with out changing the battery ever few minutes, get a 12.0 battery. That's all that needed to be said in this video and not the other bull s***!

[@bevdixon6910]

Not exactly. Battery available power differs from battery life. Different cell types can deliver more energy even at the same capacity. Not talking about voltage. If a tools motor caused a big enough drain, a battery that can deliver more energy can help the tool perform better. Definitely can make a difference.

[@chriswhite6882]

The magic of amp draw

[@Igotyerwheels]

I seriously felt like he was trying to sell me Sham-wow's... ditch the glasses and put on an ear mic then I'm sold! 🤣

[@6Sally5]

It’s YOU’RE…not YOUR.

[@DavidSantos-cb5mi]

What, is this a spelling B contest

[@brave0nej]

12.0 is all I own... I like to curl in my down time.

[@DeepDiveDavid]

😂

[@beni7928]

Doesn't fit in all tools, lol

[@DmacJitsu]

@@beni7928 everything but the m12

[@beni7928]

@@DmacJitsu not the chainsaws or the light stands

[@DmacJitsu]

@@beni7928 ah I see what your saying now too underpowered for the tool

[@reng.5934]

I got the two 6AH HO kit with a charger and a free 2962P-20 torque monster at HD Canada last week, what a monster gun.

[@yorselrus1996]

I just picked one up 2 weeks ago with the rubber boot and 2 high output batteries for $350 shipped, cant beat that, thing is a beast

[@mikecaster4612]

Good to know, brand new M18 buyer here. I just bought the string trimmer without battery and really wanted to know which battery to get. I recently bought the compact brushless set of drill/driver and impact wrench with batteries (CP 2.0) and charger. The string trimmer ate the first battery in 10 minutes and used half of the second one in 5 so, guess I would like the super 12 battery and the shoulder strap.

[@cmm8622]

We do landscaping with them. 8.0 is our favorite. Have run 5s and 12s, but 8 has been the favorite. We keep an extra on hand plus the super charger and no issues for us.

[@LilFoxAK]

i can say on my m18 1/2 and 3/8 drive the 3.0 is amazing. i mean granted the 5.0s are old and worn but i think for a FULL days worth of work the 3.0 takes it all day. cheaper, lighter and DEFF makes the guns hit way harder. wish i had seen this earlier before going out and buying new 5.0s. this video hit the nail right on the head. 100% accurate

[@AdventuresInTheSky]

I’ve been strictly High Output 3.0 and 8.0 for awhile now. The way to go.

[@AdventuresInTheSky]

@@2ASPARKY ya no kidding, but I just like having the updated 2170 cells, to hold value for resale.

[@Palmerthetradie]

I’ll give you 1 good reason to run 5.0s, they came with my kit and they’re getting the job done for now. Gotta save for a while.

[@thinshadow551]

Exactly. Why fix what's not broken

[@xEpicxGodZzx]

He did state this in the video as well. it was for the guys/gals buying replacements but rebuying obsolete batteries for more money.

[@z4ce325]

I'm not sure using retail prices for the battery comparison is very useful. From what I've seen on sales you can get the non-HO batteries for about 10$/amp-hr. The HO packs don't seem going on sale often, and when they do they are to be costing closer to 20$/amp-hr even on "sale". So if you need more batteries to just round out your collection, it can still make sense to being non-HO. Another little tidbit, the 6.0 batteries have more instantaneous power than the 8.0 batteries. So if you want to get that last little bit of torque out of your impact, use the 6.0. It seems to me instantaneous power wise the 3.0 HO battery is approximately the same as the 5.0 battery, so it's my favorite for impact and drills.

[@idwtbam]

The only Milwaukee tool I'm considering buying is the one handed sawzall, but I enjoy Vince's passion regardless of subject so I clicked.

[@TheYonkel]

Thanks for this video looking to step in to the Milwaukee family of tools.

[@BluestedSRT4]

"How come you gotta SCREAM every time you come into the room?" "Cuz I'm the Juggernaut, you see how tight my outfit is, I have to, thats the only way I can breathe"

[@darylcheshire1618]

He’s the poor man’s Scotty Kilmer

[@billsedutto8824]

@@darylcheshire1618 was thinking more like Billy Mays

[@kenienspann8203]

This is a dodge

[@1topfueldrag]

the short ones are always loud. Just like the jacked up trucks, short drivers.

[@thecuss6817]

In 2016, before I "became retired" after 40.5 years with same company, I was able to choose my 40 year service award. I chose Milwaukee M18 Heat drill with 2 Red Lithium batteries and charger, and I must say I love it. I even purchased a Milwaukee Sawzall to utilize the same batteries. So I'm still on the original batteries, 7 years (way better than my Sears NiCad batteries and drill with terrible self-loosening chuck).

[@LifeGQ]

This man is not playing about these batteries

[@Shawn_lsx]

The 8 H.O. weighs the same as the 6 H.O.

[@fluidmindorg]

This is frickin' awesome! Thank you so much. You're videos were one of the reasons I went with Milwaukee FUEL tools to replace my worn out, 18-year-old DeWalt, and I don't regret it in the least. I'm gonna go buy a pair of CP3.0 batteries right now. As a follow-up to this video, it would be great if you could do a breakdown of some of the most common generic batteries for Milwaukee tools that are all over eBay. Figure out which ones are a complete ripoff and which are at least fairly decent. P.S.: It would be great if you had links in the description just for the new batteries that you're recommending.

[@aunderiskerensky2304]

got my sub today. I have been in the tile industry for 20 years this year, and don't use hand power tools as much as some trades; but have recently upgraded to this set of drill and driver, as well as their angle grinder with new grinder mounting diamond hole saws. You are 1000 percent correct about these batteries. My grinder would barely get through a handful of hole punches through 1/2 inch thick porcelain before getting really warm and running low on power. Dropped a 3.0 6 amp on it and the thing will go all day long and be same power output all the way to the bottom of the charge. Huge difference. Way cooler too, the handle was getting warm enough where i had to take breaks between cuts, now I can just go at it. The gen 3 drills and impacts are really really solid work horses and I never regret buying them.

[@kellyfreeman6275]

I am happy that I came across this video. I was gifted a Milwaukee impact and drill. There was only one battery and no charger. I was going to buy 5.0 batteries. Since that is the battery that was with them. Now I will be getting HO 3.0 batteries. Thanks for the information.

[@extra_gnasty]

love the videos Vince. i’m 2nd year contractor’s apprentice and your videos help me study up and save my money. keep the energy up brother

[@antonioperez7528]

Passion & Clear cut information Vince. Appreciate everything you do cuz. 🙇🏾‍♂️☝🏾🖤's🤙🏾🔔🔔🔔

[@VCGConstruction]

Thanks Antonio, we appreciate it! 👍🏻

[@djdrunky]

As an auto tech I have the Milwaukee 1/2 M18 impact and have use the 6.0 battery to remove tires lockouts and it won't remove them, than I change the battery to the 12.0 and yeah it's a little heavy but I get more power so I staying with the big batteries.

[@StoneyRidgeFarmer]

Great vid Vince! Good meeting you a few weeks ago brotha!

[@Bigelite094]

I'm new to the Milwaukee line. I had to get their framing nailer. This was a good video.

[@henrywhiteeffect7031]

How are you liking that framing nailer?

[@Bigelite094]

@@henrywhiteeffect7031 I love it. It's my first framing nailer I've owned and immediately put the extended magazine. I've tried the DeWalt battery, don't like it. I've used the famous Hitachi pneumatic nailer, it's nice and light. But hey it's the 21st century and I don't want to ever own a compressor.

[@TROLLSCOMICS]

Great video as always. Love the high energy from you and the HO batteries 🔋lol

[@VCGConstruction]

👍🏻

[@garyr7027]

It's basically impedence matching, for high output tool you need high output battery, but it doesn't mean you'll get more minutes out of a higher end battery, it depends on the tool used for the specific battery. My drill goes for a long time on a 2.0, my sawzall runs down quick with a 8.0. Reverse that and the drill will probably go all day, the sawzall won't last but for a few minutes and that's on full charge.

[@markcowan3366]

glad I did a bit of research, Im upgrading my kit to milwaukee to get all the batteries compatible and this changed my strategy. I was trying to optimize the purchases to include batteries but now Ill just get the kit and buy the batteries to ensure the best fit.

[@davec6914]

Just came across your channel. Content was very informative. I recently got an M18 1/2 impact wrench model 2663-20 it came without a battery. I was wondering what would be the best battery choice. And by the way I just liked, subscribed and smashed that bell 🔔 notifications. Keep up the awesome content! ✌

[@daifeichu]

The batteries here in Canada have gone up in price in the last while. A two pack of 3.0 HO cost about $296 Cnd and a single is $148. A single 6.0 HO is $219. Earlier this year I bought a 8.0 HO for about $150 but now it's $269. Some of the M12 line is pricier now as well. In the summer I bought two M12 6.0 for $100 each but now they go for $150 each.

[@TeamMysticOSRS]

Yeah they've gone up a lot within the last year. We used to sell 5.0 AH for $99 when they were in the flyer, now MAP is $188. Even the flyer we had that the 5.0 AH was in, they were $149.

[@Healcraft]

its brutal, i just got a m12 fuel kit and i will just run the batteries out that came with it then buy some HO ones

[@chrisflynn3956]

Homeboy needs those safety glasses just for normal conversation 😂

[@BryantAvant]

The 6.0 is not using the same manufacturer as the other HO batteries. It's actually been tested to put out more watts than any other Milwaukee battery.

[@jacob.davis334]

Idk man, I still use a 5.0 in my hammer drill and my sds drill. Great run time and the fuel hammer drill is built for the 5.0

[@littleterror05]

I don’t think this guys much of an idea what he is on about and is just yelling buzz words such as “architecture”….

[@jacksonsackuvich6803]

Excellant video and wording. I would like to point out that ability to take advantage of 21700 cells vs actually going to use that power. You will definitely notice the difference in a 1/2 impact or any other larger tool, but a drill or impact driver not so much. I would certainly recommend getting the High outputs after you use up your other batteries since the CP 3.0, XC6, 8, and 12 will all perform similarly it's just runtime differences mostly.

[@killershark90]

I run a gen 3 fuel 1/4 hex impact, 100% you feel the difference between a cp2.0 and a cp3.0 HO battery. I have to drive tapcons with the thing though lol if you're just using the thing as a screwgun it's almost unruly lol

[@steverossiter8796]

This video was a life saver. I need new batteries for my tools and was considering just upgrading to something new & replacing everything. I’m probably better off just buying the cp 3.0 batteries cuz I only use them a few times a year.

[@todddann3134]

Tools are only heavy the first 3 months you use them. Like the old story of the boy who was tasked with carrying the calf up the hill to the well every day. He grew as the calf grew. Just as if im using a "regular" circular saw every day, im sure my picky self wouldnt mind too much upgrading to the biggest baddest saw on the market (if the work i was doing matched the demand of course) But then again it is 2022 and we pay that much more attention to our health and joints and longevity over years of repeated use and causes of arthritis, etc. I came to this realization towards the end of typing this but im not deleting all that hard work my thumbs just did. Plus youll get a chuckle. I hope.

[@hellbillyBob]

the safty glasses are to keep his eyes from bulging out 👀

[@swarren925]

So why not just say run 3.0 and 6.0 instead of 2, 4, and 5 amp hour!

[@Bigorse91]

Because that's shorter than wasting 11 minutes of my life lol

[@Thomas-jo8sp]

I just bought 3 deals of XC5ah batteries for $199 each. Two batteries plus one free tool. I bought 2 batteries for $199 and received a free $199 Milwaukee Router, 2 batteries for $199 and received a $169 Milwaukee Blower, 2 batteries for $199 and received a $199 Milwaukee Jigsaw. So in all I bought 6 CX5ah batteries for $600 and received $569 in free Milwaukee tools. I love the CX5ah in all of my tools. There's no reason for me to own any HO batteries as the CX series gets me through any remodel jobs I do running them all day. Oh, and I also bought the 2 battery supercharger for $119 that charges sequentially. I'm a small guy at 5'7", 170 with carpel tunnel so severe, after all my testing, the Dr. couldn't believe I could even hold a pencil, let along tools with heavy battrey packs so I don't believe weight has anything to do with what Vince is saying. I'm not sure how you get a better deal with Milwaukee's fall deals, just my opinion.

[@GusFromDaysPast]

I keep giving the cashier applewood smoked bacon and she keeps saying, "That isn't money." Thank you for the advice.

[@bioweaponsystem154]

Hey Vince, if you haven't already, I'd love to see you running some tests with the Amazon knock-off batteries. I have a few but I really have sporadic usage of my tools at the best of times. I tested the chargers but they were just the same speed as a regular Milwaukee first generation so nothing much fun there unless you want a cheap 4 bay charger.

[@OfficialFatLip]

They work with vibrators

[@MrNorthstar50]

Amazon knock off batteries stink , they are junk big time I made that mistake once but never again.

[@Werifix]

It would be very cool if you could compare the M18 5.5 high output with the 6.0 high output. Sometimes 5.5 comes at a significantly lower price and I am interested what's the actual difference between the two.

[@N-trepid1]

Man this is Golden! You saved me soooo much aggravation. Much appreciated!

[@VCGConstruction]

Glad it helped!

[@Megadeadpeople]

I use battery sizes based on the tool. Impacts only need 5’s. Saws need a 9amp. Sawzalls don’t like 12amps, because the weight of the 12amp messes with the connection. Literal power isn’t always everything.