Vegan Fires INSULTS at Non Vegan

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Mel & Steve

Mel & Steve

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@Itsmelandsteve
@Itsmelandsteve 2 ай бұрын
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@plantgeezer
@plantgeezer 2 ай бұрын
’ I could kill you with a bolt gun ’ “That wouldn’t happen” Chap is immune to bolt guns 🤣 Quality Mel 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Cry vegan 🤡
@callumr9032
@callumr9032 2 ай бұрын
Very well handled Mel 👌
@rockingcreatures
@rockingcreatures 2 ай бұрын
I think it's pointless having a discussion with a drugged up individual. A waste of energy and resources. Nevertheless, good work Mel, you were getting some points across to the public. Amazing what you and Steve do for the animals.
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Cry about it vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@sergiomalcon
@sergiomalcon 2 ай бұрын
Great work! 😎👍🏻 Greetings from Playa del Carmen, México 🇲🇽
@VictorHugoAlvarez-eternelymiss
@VictorHugoAlvarez-eternelymiss 2 ай бұрын
Of course you don't eat animals, you eat other face Mexicans face down in shit mexico.
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Cry about it trash vegan. 🫵😹🤡🚮🗑
@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer
@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer 2 ай бұрын
The dude doesn't know what being willfully ignorant is. Maybe he's just a smooth brain. "Better to be a happy idiot than someone who knows the truth" - Michael Scott The Office(US)
@MustardSkaven
@MustardSkaven 2 ай бұрын
You don't seem to understand willful ignorance. It's when you avoid gaining knowledge on a matter to avoid having to make a decision based on that knowledge, usually this decision is a moral call. Knowing what goes on in animal farming and not caring isn't willful ignorance, it's apathy.
@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer
@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer 2 ай бұрын
@@MustardSkaven It can also refer to when someone intentionally ignores an ethical issue that they believe is important.
@MustardSkaven
@MustardSkaven 2 ай бұрын
@@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer No it can't. Can't just go "But it can also mean what I want it to mean". Ignorance is about lack of knowledge. When you have the knowledge but ignore it cause you don't care about it, that has nothing to do with ignorance (lack of knowledge).
@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer
@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer 2 ай бұрын
@@MustardSkaven I don't make up the definition, my guy. "The concept is also applied to situations in which people intentionally turn their attention away from an ethical problem that is believed to be important by those using the phrase (for instance, because the problem is too disturbing for people to want it dominating their thoughts, or from the knowledge that solving the problem would require extensive effort)." 🥱
@MustardSkaven
@MustardSkaven 2 ай бұрын
@@Marine_Veteran_Vegan_Gamer Just because it is applied doesn't mean it's valid. The term "murder" is also applied by vegans for slaughtering pigs. Where is this quote from? EDIT: found it, Wikipedia, lol. Let's be generous and pretend it's actually valid, which it clearly isn't. In order for this to apply you need to assume the following in this video: 1. It is disturbing for the guy being interviewed to think about it 2. He would consider "solving the problem" to require extensive effort On what basis are you assuming these? By your own logic I could accuse you of being willfully ignorant of cheaters in Fortnite. You can tell me you don't care about Fortnite but from my high horse I can pretend I know better what you are thinking and assume cheating in Fortnite is just too disturbing for you to think about so you choose to be willfully ignorant of it. Since apparently all that matters here is one party caring about the "problem" and just assuming the other party also cares deeply inside but is dishonest about it.
@Imcarolinek
@Imcarolinek 2 ай бұрын
Vegan bacon is ‘moody’ but forcing a piglet into a gas chamber isn’t?
@TheFootballPoet
@TheFootballPoet 2 ай бұрын
It’s ok to eat meat , don’t worry about it
@RoidRage-yc7yg
@RoidRage-yc7yg 2 ай бұрын
How do you propose we get bacon from a pig?
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Cry about it vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@jamesmarno
@jamesmarno 2 ай бұрын
You can watch this on 2x speed with the volume down and still be able to understand what's happening through body language. That Mel is literally standing her ground being very calm and this guy's body is doing everything to escape this conversation. A conversation that I think is going to stay with him for a long time. A seed has definitely been uncomfortably planted.
@davidgiardina5424
@davidgiardina5424 2 ай бұрын
Oh the face of the entitled, willfully ignorant....cringe....Great patience and great work presenting the truth in the face of this.
@Unmasking_Viandalisme
@Unmasking_Viandalisme 2 ай бұрын
9mo almost entirely WFPB caused issues, which WF omni. resolved very quickly. That's my truth & simplistic ideology cannot change it.
@LizHeselton
@LizHeselton 2 ай бұрын
Well done Mel, admire your persistence. These people think their taste pleasure is worth more than a life. What a terrible way of thinking.
@FreddieAl
@FreddieAl 2 ай бұрын
It's worth more than an animals life, that's why they're bred for food
@SixStringSteve
@SixStringSteve 2 ай бұрын
Love the way Mel didn’t let him get away with any of his absurd statements, and kept her cool. I haven’t heard veganism being dismissed as ‘hippy’ for decades!
@AzxVhy
@AzxVhy 2 ай бұрын
Mell looks malnourished
@RoidRage-yc7yg
@RoidRage-yc7yg 2 ай бұрын
The only absurd statements in the video were made by Mel.
@lilo4784
@lilo4784 2 ай бұрын
He’s really a narcissist not willing to think about anyone except himself and not caring at what costs he can to get his addiction to animal body parts.
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Cry about it fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@ThatChipGuy
@ThatChipGuy 2 ай бұрын
Mel, you did, really well. I applaud you for keeping your cool and staying on track. One thing, though: i think he was being apathetic, not ignorant. Selective ignorance is when you don’t want to know, apathy is when you know but you don’t care.
@FreddieAl
@FreddieAl 2 ай бұрын
Hush
@John.AR.Activism
@John.AR.Activism 2 ай бұрын
@@FreddieAl No.
@FreddieAl
@FreddieAl 2 ай бұрын
@John.AR.Activism Keep going then. Vegans will never have the numbers to change the way we use non-human animals for food and clothing.
@TheVeganFinalBoss
@TheVeganFinalBoss 2 ай бұрын
​@@FreddieAl the effort is what counts you're right in saying that we can't convince every religious zealot that animals are worth more than their few moments of sensory pleasure, but that's like saying the sky is blue.. no shit freeddie when you account for your behaviour on earth, what will you say hypothetically? well mother/father i spent my time trolling on youtube those that are trying to make a difference to the beings that you gave the ability to feel pain and suffer, which also gives them the ability to know great pain and pleasure, just.. like.. us.. it's your soul at the end of the day, but my god you're a right pillock
@FreddieAl
@FreddieAl 2 ай бұрын
@TheVeganFinalBoss My "soul at the end of the day". GTFOH. You're a bible thumping condescending, sanctimonious and supercilious 🔔 end.
@reTool462
@reTool462 2 ай бұрын
Amazing work Mel, you had him on the ropes, and he had no sensible argument. The bottom line is that meat eaters just do not care about animals, and that is the only justification to not be vegan. Every other argument is just nonsensical..❤
@RoidRage-yc7yg
@RoidRage-yc7yg 2 ай бұрын
Had him on the ropes? She doesn't even know the definition of murder.
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Oh grow up you stupid fatherless vegan. Keep crying about animal slaughter and meat eaters. 🫵😹🤡
@heatherlambie1297
@heatherlambie1297 2 ай бұрын
He was so high he probably won’t even remember this conversation.
@MrAllmightyCornholioz
@MrAllmightyCornholioz 2 ай бұрын
Crazy how carnists are more offended by you telling them what they did wrong but it's okay for them to murder others. Hypocrisy.
@rondarkman.
@rondarkman. 2 ай бұрын
Murder others?
@rondarkman.
@rondarkman. 2 ай бұрын
Is carnist meant to be an insult or something.?
@RoidRage-yc7yg
@RoidRage-yc7yg 2 ай бұрын
You can't murder an animal. Murder only applies to humans.
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Cry about it fatherless vegan. Keep coping. 🫵😹🤡
@MustardSkaven
@MustardSkaven 2 ай бұрын
Another one abusing words. Maybe if vegans stopped willfully abusing language, they'd receive more consideration from non-vegans.
@heathercave5032
@heathercave5032 2 ай бұрын
Bless. he got triggered by the word ignorant and then couldn't hear anything. He actually had sympathy initially too. Well done Mel
@seanylilears19
@seanylilears19 2 ай бұрын
As soon as you told him you were vegan, his demeanour changed. It's crazy how misunderstood veganism is.
@eagalgael
@eagalgael 2 ай бұрын
Well when they walk around chatting this shit of course it is
@ladyaudrey9976
@ladyaudrey9976 2 ай бұрын
Be Vegan, live vegan, love vegan 💚💚💚💚💚💚
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Grow up fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@じゃみっと
@じゃみっと 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Mel, for everything that you do. Unfortunately, it became obvious very quickly that this conversation wasn't going to go anywhere.
@escapetoruralwales
@escapetoruralwales 2 ай бұрын
You’re right, he was being defensive because he’s stubborn and doesn’t like being proven wrong. You definitely taught him a few things he didn’t know before. Time will tell as to whether he digests it. There was once a time I would have probably reacted like that.
@pegbuckner5074
@pegbuckner5074 2 ай бұрын
Thank you, Mel! Hold him accountable! 👏🏻
@PA-hi9wj
@PA-hi9wj 2 ай бұрын
He thinks he can live his life & act alpha like lions, but thinks that farm male animals (who are slaughtered, macerated, etc) don't have a right to live the same alpha life as him & those lions: Free in their own habitats because they are supposedly food. Think someone would have to leave him alone with real lions in the wild to realize just how alpha he's not.
@TheAndyVegan
@TheAndyVegan 2 ай бұрын
Man: They're only animals. Also man: We need to give them better conditions.
@RoidRage-yc7yg
@RoidRage-yc7yg 2 ай бұрын
There's no contradiction there. Most people would agree with legislation that gave better conditions for livestock. Yet, vegans don't ever propose that. They have no solutions. They just want to criticize people for eating meat.
@gregorimicleson
@gregorimicleson Ай бұрын
she needs to check her facts and not lie ,murder is the crime of premeditated killing of one human being by another therefore you can`t murder an animal
@ValeriaRossellini
@ValeriaRossellini 2 ай бұрын
Great work as usual, thank you 💗💗
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Cry about meat eaters and animal slaughter fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@ddjura
@ddjura 2 ай бұрын
3:22 "It's not willful ignorance, cuz I'm not ignorant to what's happening, I'm just choosing not to think about it.." I'm just going to leave this here, let that sink in.
@sethhoyt2202
@sethhoyt2202 2 ай бұрын
That deteriorated towards the end, but I think he will reflect on this conversation in the future
@rondarkman.
@rondarkman. 2 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂lol no just no , do you vegans say anything so you can believe it 😂😂
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Grow up delusional vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@mcc5295
@mcc5295 2 ай бұрын
Great video ❤❤❤❤
@Itsmelandsteve
@Itsmelandsteve 2 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏 🩷💚
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Stay mad vegan. 🤡
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
​@@Itsmelandsteve cry
@TheVeganFinalBoss
@TheVeganFinalBoss 2 ай бұрын
@@CryHarderTrashVegans what an embarrassing existence, entire account dedicated to trolling others.. get a bloody life
@GS-lq2is
@GS-lq2is 2 ай бұрын
3:00 - dude, what you are admittedly doing is literally the definition of willful ignorance.
@ssabykoops
@ssabykoops 2 ай бұрын
you didn't call him ignorant . he just doesn't understand the usage of the word. Ignorant doesn't mean stupid !!!
@TuftyVFTA
@TuftyVFTA 2 ай бұрын
Hard enough dealing with sober people Mel...
@JamesKiteActivism
@JamesKiteActivism 2 ай бұрын
"I'm not being willfully-ignorant, I'm just choosing not to think about it"
@T_Armstrong
@T_Armstrong 2 ай бұрын
Nice stuff holding him accountable Mel! For anyone else curious about the term 'willful ignorance'. Which seemed to be his main contention here, or at least he used that conflict to avoid answering questions. There are different definitions out there, one aligns with his definition (wiktionary): A decision in bad faith to avoid becoming informed about something so as to avoid having to make undesirable decisions that such information might prompt. And another that aligns with Mel's definition (rational wiki): Willful ignorance differs from ordinary “ignorance“ - when someone is simply unaware of something - in that willfully ignorant people are fully aware of facts, resources, and sources, but refuse to acknowledge them. Ugh semantics. It's frustrating when a conversation derails because of the definition of a word. So silly!
@ChaseAvior
@ChaseAvior 2 ай бұрын
Ban Slaughter
@Rescue127
@Rescue127 2 ай бұрын
This guy is completely ignorant and chooses to stay that way. He is not a lion but yet he tries to compare himself to one but that would mean by his logic that he rapes and kills people is that what he's saying? He is a human being which means he was given a moral compass to know the difference between right and wrong. Abusing an animal is wrong and everyone knows it and that's why non-vegans will get defensive at vegans. It makes them look at their own self and realize they have to deal with their choices and they don't want to. Animals deserve to be free and not enslaved mutilated or tortured. Obviously most people have such a high meat addiction that they can't stop themselves. Once you lose compassion and empathy you don't have anything left.
@bodilrummelhoff7372
@bodilrummelhoff7372 2 ай бұрын
❤❤❤
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Cry vegan
@CainDefendsAnimals
@CainDefendsAnimals 2 ай бұрын
🙀 🙀 🙀 🙀 🙀
@martinkevin4827
@martinkevin4827 2 ай бұрын
Appeal to nature fallacy, and malzoan hypocracy , typical excuses. Great outreach Mel.
@Itsmelandsteve
@Itsmelandsteve 2 ай бұрын
Thank you 🙏🌱
@FreddieAl
@FreddieAl 2 ай бұрын
Malzoan 😂😂😂. Do you really believe veganism will become the default position. In your dreams. You will never have the numbers to make the change.
@climaksy1659
@climaksy1659 2 ай бұрын
@@FreddieAl Seething are we? Do not like being proven wrong?
@FreddieAl
@FreddieAl 2 ай бұрын
@climaksy1659 I've not been proven wrong, why do you say that?
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Cry and seeth fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@MoistVegan
@MoistVegan 2 ай бұрын
He says might makes right
@SlimesmoreUK
@SlimesmoreUK 2 ай бұрын
Noun. willful ignorance (uncountable) (idiomatic, law) A decision in bad faith to avoid becoming informed about something so as to avoid having to make undesirable decisions that such information might prompt.
@NathanBlackberry
@NathanBlackberry 2 ай бұрын
Vegan for the victims🙏💚🫂🐷🐔🐮🐕🐱🐒🦃🦊❤️❤️❤️
@Itsmelandsteve
@Itsmelandsteve 2 ай бұрын
💯 🩷💚🌱
@martinkevin4827
@martinkevin4827 2 ай бұрын
🖐
@Trolloftruth
@Trolloftruth 2 ай бұрын
Freak show
@FreddieAl
@FreddieAl 2 ай бұрын
Hush Kathoey
@AzxVhy
@AzxVhy 2 ай бұрын
Animals are my food, my food yummy 🤤
@OmegaPointZen
@OmegaPointZen 2 ай бұрын
If he is still alive in five years time, I will be amazed. 😁
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Cry vegan
@SlimesmoreUK
@SlimesmoreUK 2 ай бұрын
You know what I love to say to people who say its limited. I couldnt care less if its limited or not. Simple as that.
@smotty2hotty
@smotty2hotty 2 ай бұрын
Most land animals are herbivores so why do they choose to bring up a minority species to justify their selfish greedy and cruel behavior????
@rondarkman.
@rondarkman. 2 ай бұрын
It's my food cry more
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Cry some more fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@colewiesbrook8916
@colewiesbrook8916 2 ай бұрын
Great job at holding him accountable mel. He does sound like a narccisist who only cares about himself. Putting an innocent pig in a gas chamber is horrible and disrespectful to the pig. I know all about meat eaters getting defensive and not being able to handle the truth about factory farms. When i tell my two brothers tyler and austin about factory farms and that they abuse and torture animals on factory farms they get super defensive and start throwing a tempet tantrum at me because they are all butthurt about the truth. There might be some compaassion inside this guy here. My brother tyler gets so butthurt that he will start pouting and ranting because he doesnt have any facts or evidence to back up what he says ever. He is sick in the head and blaspemizes god and jesus. Me and you mel we have facts and evidence to back up what we say. Meat eaters never have any facts or evidence to back up what they say. Great job at staying calm mel. You and steve always stay so calm. I always stay calm when i am talking to my brother tyler about factory farms because i know how to always stay calm. It sets off my brother a lot. Great video mel. Keep up the great work until every animal is free. We will end factory farms forever.
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
I ain't reading allat. A whole paragraph of yappanese and copium. Cry about it and stay mad fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@MustardSkaven
@MustardSkaven 2 ай бұрын
Murder does say human in the definition. Cause it's not just killing a human, it's specifically illegally killing a human. "the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another" The fact that it's illegal is what makes it murder. Cause there are cases where such a killing is legal => not murder.
@capucinebellucci3476
@capucinebellucci3476 2 ай бұрын
Vegan activist Hero ✊✊✊✊
@robinhood6143
@robinhood6143 2 ай бұрын
this guy doesnt understand english or how speaking works in general
@stevesas632
@stevesas632 2 ай бұрын
That happens when you take things & want to impersonate the worst of other cultures 😆
@RoidRage-yc7yg
@RoidRage-yc7yg 2 ай бұрын
She was the one who didn't understand what murder means.
@dieradikaleveganerin
@dieradikaleveganerin 2 ай бұрын
I love it. Your energy is everything, thanks for the great work xx
@FreddieAl
@FreddieAl 2 ай бұрын
Hush
@dieradikaleveganerin
@dieradikaleveganerin 2 ай бұрын
@@FreddieAl Ohhh my friend Freddie! You're truly a fan, watching aaaaall the vegan videos. Amazing :) Keep it up, maybe, one day, you'll also be able to understand. All the best xx
@FreddieAl
@FreddieAl 2 ай бұрын
​@dieradikaleveganerin I understand you have no chance in turning me into a vegturd. This morning I've been watching some butchery pages, very skilled people.
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Cry about it fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@sn1per196
@sn1per196 2 ай бұрын
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Grow up, fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@Mercymurv
@Mercymurv 2 ай бұрын
Good job.
@mitchgoldstein6720
@mitchgoldstein6720 2 ай бұрын
He needs a hug, learning the truth can be extremely difficult and takes time to accept and move forward with
@rondarkman.
@rondarkman. 2 ай бұрын
Truth is animals are a great product, best cope
@morejoy5188
@morejoy5188 2 ай бұрын
​@@rondarkman. Take Copium
@rondarkman.
@rondarkman. 2 ай бұрын
@morejoy5188 What's that sir?
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Stay mad vegan. Animals are here to be eaten. Cope harder 🫵😹🤡
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
​@@morejoy5188 ur copium levels are off the charts trash vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@lauratanln
@lauratanln 2 ай бұрын
Hard to talk to those who do not bother to think about what they are doing to animals even though they know it's cruel for animals to be abused and gassed or slit.
@darrenchandlercoaching
@darrenchandlercoaching 2 ай бұрын
Mel: that’s willful ignorance Him: no it’s not Him: describes his thinking and behaviour that exactly defines willful ignorance
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Cry about it delusional vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@jjradV
@jjradV 2 ай бұрын
Once you know you can't unknow it, once you have seen the suffering and torture of kind,innocent, defenceless,imprisoned sentient beings with your own eyes you can't unsee it ! Shame on anyone that continues to participate after seeing the brutality of YOUR food choices !! Thank you Mel for everything you are doing for the animals !!
@rondarkman.
@rondarkman. 2 ай бұрын
Meh I kill my own food... cry more
@FreddieAl
@FreddieAl 2 ай бұрын
I've known that animals die for our food for around 60 years, I can live with it.
@jjradV
@jjradV 2 ай бұрын
@@FreddieAl one is either an animal abuser or one is not !
@FreddieAl
@FreddieAl 2 ай бұрын
@@jjradV One doesn't give a fuck or one doesn't give a fuck. I personally don't give a fuck. Is that clear for you w⚓️
@DuncanCrawley
@DuncanCrawley 2 ай бұрын
@@FreddieAlAnd yet you spend so much time on Animal Rights channels trying to defend what you do
@davidformosa7626
@davidformosa7626 2 ай бұрын
Awesome work dealing with a wasted crack head Mel!! Patience of a saint!!
@robindao5
@robindao5 2 ай бұрын
the ego is a disorder.
@robindao5
@robindao5 2 ай бұрын
The display of selfishness, gaslighting and psychopathy was wild
@v.a.n.e.
@v.a.n.e. 2 ай бұрын
I haven't read an uglier thought in a while. since when is a lack of self-respect a virtue?
@MegJenkins-j7u
@MegJenkins-j7u 2 ай бұрын
looking at this that guy is acting like hes on drugs I have my reasons why I see that hes aruuing with the truth he thinks slaughter isnt murder trying to justify it
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Cry about it fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@josiecirigliano9134
@josiecirigliano9134 2 ай бұрын
💚👍
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Stay mad and cry about animal slaughter bozo. 🫵😹🤡
@saywhat303
@saywhat303 2 ай бұрын
Drugs are bad mmmkay....and so is meat.
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Respect ny AUTHORITAH trash vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@v.a.n.e.
@v.a.n.e. 2 ай бұрын
well, that wasn't very polite of you. all cool kids refrain from making insults.
@Serendipity-gj2me
@Serendipity-gj2me 2 ай бұрын
Meat is a dangerous drug! It's an adrenalin rush and hard for many to give it up.
@FreddieAl
@FreddieAl 2 ай бұрын
So fucking what
@Unmasking_Viandalisme
@Unmasking_Viandalisme 2 ай бұрын
No. Vs simply accept any nonsensical proposal which supports their simplistic ideology. Meat is nutritious.
@rosekmv
@rosekmv 2 ай бұрын
how do you talk to people like this?
@FreddieAl
@FreddieAl 2 ай бұрын
2:23 You're wrong, again. Murder is defined as the unlawful killing of another human being with malice aforethought, intention or deliberate intent to cause' death or inflict grievous bodily harm. In the UK legal system, it is the most serious form of homicide and carries a mandatory sentence of life imprisonment. HOW MANY SLAUGHTERMEN ARE IN PRISON FOR KILLING ANIMALS? I'll give you a clue, it's between 0 and zero.
@TheVeganFinalBoss
@TheVeganFinalBoss 2 ай бұрын
This was your attempt at an argument? "Murder is defined as the unlawful killing of another human being with malice aforethought, intention or deliberate intent to cause' death or inflict grievous bodily harm" Did anyone say it fit the legal definition of 'murder' If you didn't get it yet, we're not here to defend animals with the law, under the law they have NO rights. We're here to defend animals in SPITE of the law, because legality =/= morality, what's legal is not moral, slavery was once legal. "HOW MANY SLAUGHTERMEN ARE IN PRISON FOR KILLING ANIMALS? I'll give you a clue, it's between 0 and zero." Because.. that... is... their.. job.. Now why do we have laws against animal cruelty? why do people get jail sentences for abusing animals? How many are in prison for killing animals who AREN'T SLAUGHTERHOUSE WORKERS? A great many! So, with that being said, if we have laws protecting animals from abuse, why don't we push for even greater rights and protections for ALL animals, not just the ones society/culture has deemed aren't to be eaten..
@FreddieAl
@FreddieAl 2 ай бұрын
@TheVeganFinalBoss It wasn't an argument. It's a statement of fact. Get beck to licking your lettuce leaf dollshead.
@JoeKingAudits
@JoeKingAudits 21 күн бұрын
Can you do a video of what you eat in 1 month being vegan?
@Itsmelandsteve
@Itsmelandsteve 21 күн бұрын
We talk about why we should be vegan but you can sign up to challenge22 and get a free mentor to help you for 22 days for free. What I will say is that nothing changes for you, you wana eat a sausage casserole just buy vegan suassage, wana eat pizza just get vegan pizza etc it’s really easy There is free help out there for you. Hench herbivore is a nutritionist check out his channel and videos he does more of the how side of things
@Yavor-Karapetrov
@Yavor-Karapetrov 2 ай бұрын
I will tell you what is Willful Ignorance - your assumption, that he is compassionate. He was 100% Right. He is Aware of what is happening (at least for the Murder, before he met you), and he is Choosing to pay for it or to do it. I didn't hear what exactly he said, but I think he said that he Himself killed these Sentient Beings... for Money. And again, he knew he had a Choice Not to do it... But anyway he did it. So, he is 100% Aware! Only you are Willfully Ignorant. "I am not judging you; I am not judging you" Please Wake up finally and understand, that Most people, like this guy, are just Evil!
@smotty2hotty
@smotty2hotty 2 ай бұрын
It’s not so much ignorance as he knows what goes on but doesn’t care. it’s more willful apathy and arrogance!!!
@jemlettuce
@jemlettuce 2 ай бұрын
Wow you sure touched a nerve there! He really couldn’t handle it. Weird how he got so offended when you pointed out that choosing to ignore and look away was wilful ignorance 🤦‍♀️
@FreddieAl
@FreddieAl 2 ай бұрын
It's his choice and it's not illegal. Cry harder
@FreddieAl
@FreddieAl 2 ай бұрын
Shoplifter
@CryHarderTrashVegans
@CryHarderTrashVegans 2 ай бұрын
Cry harder vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@juliuspuras9478
@juliuspuras9478 2 ай бұрын
The vegans knows the truth how many animals have to kill for the bowl of green leaf?
@TheFootballPoet
@TheFootballPoet 2 ай бұрын
Meat eater 1-0 Mel . He dominated that One
@SixStringSteve
@SixStringSteve 2 ай бұрын
If winning is measured by how much verbal diarrhea is produced, then I agree.
@TheFootballPoet
@TheFootballPoet 2 ай бұрын
@@SixStringSteve nah he won . Mel was poor here
@SlimesmoreUK
@SlimesmoreUK 2 ай бұрын
@@SixStringSteve Was just thinking this. Guy lost his rag because he got called out on what he was saying. Yet somehow he dominated the conversation? If anything he just came across like a nob. Shes treating him like she would anyone else saying she would try and protect him and hes just plain rude about it.
@sid-d4w
@sid-d4w 2 ай бұрын
Explain why you think that? 🤔
@TheFootballPoet
@TheFootballPoet 2 ай бұрын
He wouldn't get bullied by her ..those normal vegan tactics of insulting and belittling people and bullying ...he wouldn't have it He dominated
@PTruth-md6xx
@PTruth-md6xx Ай бұрын
Not interesting, vile.
@GS-lq2is
@GS-lq2is 2 ай бұрын
Great job, but you gotta stop saying that the dictionary definition of murder doesn't limit it to humans (2:19) , because the definition absolutely does make it about humans. Here are some samples of definitions of murder: "the crime of unlawfully and unjustifiably killing a person ," "the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another," "the killing of a human being by a sane person, with intent, malice aforethought," and so on and so on. That you might find a definition here or there that leaves out these words doesn't mean anything - this is clearly the accepted meaning. The far better point is that that is just semantics and that unjustified killing of animals is wrong. (PS - I had bolded (or I thought that was what I was doing) the most relevant words like "human being" and then those words were deleted in my comment! Ha. So I added the relevant words back - unbolded this time to be safe .)
@Untillallarefree
@Untillallarefree 2 ай бұрын
The first example you give from the dictionary does not limit this to humans. The sentence ends on person. Animals are exactly that they have personalities therefore they are a person.
@GS-lq2is
@GS-lq2is 2 ай бұрын
@@Untillallarefree You can think that animals are persons you like, but we're talking about dictionary definitions - and the dictionary says that a person is a human (it has other definitions, but none of them include non-human animals.). And you know that "person" means human to almost everyone on the planet. Veganism is, in my opinion, an unarguable moral imperative. The reasons for it are utterly compelling - which is why I think we don't need to have even a whiff of dishonesty in our arguments for it. Feel free to argue all day long that definitions of murder and person etc. should include non-human animals, but don't pretend like our dictionaries or societally accepted definitions already do. They don't.
@oliverhood7856
@oliverhood7856 2 ай бұрын
You can live on other people's money. Just like the muppets.
@lggsretrofinds4461
@lggsretrofinds4461 2 ай бұрын
so only way is the your way sounds like a cult to me
@Itsmelandsteve
@Itsmelandsteve 2 ай бұрын
We are normal You are the carnist cult
@OmegaPointZen
@OmegaPointZen 2 ай бұрын
Cults are not founded on rational thought, Veganism is. Please learn how to Think. 😁
@v.a.n.e.
@v.a.n.e. 2 ай бұрын
most of them struggle with anger management; the vast majority are not even vegan. they are using such opportunities to manifest their anger without consequences.
@lggsretrofinds4461
@lggsretrofinds4461 2 ай бұрын
@@Itsmelandsteve nah u social media vegan wariiors who got brainwashed by fellow cult member joey eattofustrong i know real vegans we get allong well we never push views leave together peacefully
@rondarkman.
@rondarkman. 2 ай бұрын
​@Itsmelandsteve What's carnist? Is it meant to be insulting or something? Since has eating any food a cult?
@Grc0500
@Grc0500 2 ай бұрын
This dude is insane lol
@mrMankx
@mrMankx 2 ай бұрын
"If you are food its not murder"😕🤍🖤🤎
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