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@plantgeezer27 күн бұрын
’ I could kill you with a bolt gun ’ “That wouldn’t happen” Chap is immune to bolt guns 🤣 Quality Mel 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Cry vegan 🤡
@davidgiardina542427 күн бұрын
Oh the face of the entitled, willfully ignorant....cringe....Great patience and great work presenting the truth in the face of this.
@Unmasking_Viandalisme26 күн бұрын
9mo almost entirely WFPB caused issues, which WF omni. resolved very quickly. That's my truth & simplistic ideology cannot change it.
@sergiomalcon27 күн бұрын
Great work! 😎👍🏻 Greetings from Playa del Carmen, México 🇲🇽
@VictorHugoAlvarez-eternelymiss27 күн бұрын
Of course you don't eat animals, you eat other face Mexicans face down in shit mexico.
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Cry about it trash vegan. 🫵😹🤡🚮🗑
@rockingcreatures26 күн бұрын
I think it's pointless having a discussion with a drugged up individual. A waste of energy and resources. Nevertheless, good work Mel, you were getting some points across to the public. Amazing what you and Steve do for the animals.
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Cry about it vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@callumr903227 күн бұрын
Very well handled Mel 👌
@Imcarolinek27 күн бұрын
Vegan bacon is ‘moody’ but forcing a piglet into a gas chamber isn’t?
@TheFootballPoet27 күн бұрын
It’s ok to eat meat , don’t worry about it
@RoidRage-yc7yg27 күн бұрын
How do you propose we get bacon from a pig?
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Cry about it vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@heatherlambie129726 күн бұрын
He was so high he probably won’t even remember this conversation.
@LizHeselton27 күн бұрын
Well done Mel, admire your persistence. These people think their taste pleasure is worth more than a life. What a terrible way of thinking.
@FreddieAl27 күн бұрын
It's worth more than an animals life, that's why they're bred for food
@jamesmarno27 күн бұрын
You can watch this on 2x speed with the volume down and still be able to understand what's happening through body language. That Mel is literally standing her ground being very calm and this guy's body is doing everything to escape this conversation. A conversation that I think is going to stay with him for a long time. A seed has definitely been uncomfortably planted.
@heathercave503227 күн бұрын
Bless. he got triggered by the word ignorant and then couldn't hear anything. He actually had sympathy initially too. Well done Mel
@ladyaudrey997627 күн бұрын
Be Vegan, live vegan, love vegan 💚💚💚💚💚💚
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Grow up fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@lilo478427 күн бұрын
He’s really a narcissist not willing to think about anyone except himself and not caring at what costs he can to get his addiction to animal body parts.
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Cry about it fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@reTool46227 күн бұрын
Amazing work Mel, you had him on the ropes, and he had no sensible argument. The bottom line is that meat eaters just do not care about animals, and that is the only justification to not be vegan. Every other argument is just nonsensical..❤
@RoidRage-yc7yg27 күн бұрын
Had him on the ropes? She doesn't even know the definition of murder.
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Oh grow up you stupid fatherless vegan. Keep crying about animal slaughter and meat eaters. 🫵😹🤡
@SixStringSteve27 күн бұрын
Love the way Mel didn’t let him get away with any of his absurd statements, and kept her cool. I haven’t heard veganism being dismissed as ‘hippy’ for decades!
@AzxVhy27 күн бұрын
Mell looks malnourished
@RoidRage-yc7yg27 күн бұрын
The only absurd statements in the video were made by Mel.
@seanylilears1926 күн бұрын
As soon as you told him you were vegan, his demeanour changed. It's crazy how misunderstood veganism is.
@frostedY115 күн бұрын
Well when they walk around chatting this shit of course it is
@veganpowerlab27 күн бұрын
Mel, you did, really well. I applaud you for keeping your cool and staying on track. One thing, though: i think he was being apathetic, not ignorant. Selective ignorance is when you don’t want to know, apathy is when you know but you don’t care.
@FreddieAl27 күн бұрын
Hush
@John.AR.Activism26 күн бұрын
@@FreddieAl No.
@FreddieAl26 күн бұрын
@John.AR.Activism Keep going then. Vegans will never have the numbers to change the way we use non-human animals for food and clothing.
@TheVeganFinalBoss26 күн бұрын
@@FreddieAl the effort is what counts you're right in saying that we can't convince every religious zealot that animals are worth more than their few moments of sensory pleasure, but that's like saying the sky is blue.. no shit freeddie when you account for your behaviour on earth, what will you say hypothetically? well mother/father i spent my time trolling on youtube those that are trying to make a difference to the beings that you gave the ability to feel pain and suffer, which also gives them the ability to know great pain and pleasure, just.. like.. us.. it's your soul at the end of the day, but my god you're a right pillock
@FreddieAl26 күн бұрын
@TheVeganFinalBoss My "soul at the end of the day". GTFOH. You're a bible thumping condescending, sanctimonious and supercilious 🔔 end.
@じゃみっと27 күн бұрын
Thanks Mel, for everything that you do. Unfortunately, it became obvious very quickly that this conversation wasn't going to go anywhere.
@MrAllmightyCornholioz27 күн бұрын
Crazy how carnists are more offended by you telling them what they did wrong but it's okay for them to murder others. Hypocrisy.
@rondarkman.27 күн бұрын
Murder others?
@rondarkman.27 күн бұрын
Is carnist meant to be an insult or something.?
@RoidRage-yc7yg27 күн бұрын
You can't murder an animal. Murder only applies to humans.
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Cry about it fatherless vegan. Keep coping. 🫵😹🤡
@MustardSkaven25 күн бұрын
Another one abusing words. Maybe if vegans stopped willfully abusing language, they'd receive more consideration from non-vegans.
@escapetoruralwales27 күн бұрын
You’re right, he was being defensive because he’s stubborn and doesn’t like being proven wrong. You definitely taught him a few things he didn’t know before. Time will tell as to whether he digests it. There was once a time I would have probably reacted like that.
@sethhoyt220227 күн бұрын
That deteriorated towards the end, but I think he will reflect on this conversation in the future
@rondarkman.27 күн бұрын
😂😂😂😂lol no just no , do you vegans say anything so you can believe it 😂😂
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Grow up delusional vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@TuftyVFTA27 күн бұрын
Hard enough dealing with sober people Mel...
@ChaseAvior27 күн бұрын
Ban Slaughter
@TheAndyVegan27 күн бұрын
Man: They're only animals. Also man: We need to give them better conditions.
@RoidRage-yc7yg27 күн бұрын
There's no contradiction there. Most people would agree with legislation that gave better conditions for livestock. Yet, vegans don't ever propose that. They have no solutions. They just want to criticize people for eating meat.
@PA-hi9wj27 күн бұрын
He thinks he can live his life & act alpha like lions, but thinks that farm male animals (who are slaughtered, macerated, etc) don't have a right to live the same alpha life as him & those lions: Free in their own habitats because they are supposedly food. Think someone would have to leave him alone with real lions in the wild to realize just how alpha he's not.
@JamesKiteActivism20 күн бұрын
"I'm not being willfully-ignorant, I'm just choosing not to think about it"
@T_Armstrong27 күн бұрын
Nice stuff holding him accountable Mel! For anyone else curious about the term 'willful ignorance'. Which seemed to be his main contention here, or at least he used that conflict to avoid answering questions. There are different definitions out there, one aligns with his definition (wiktionary): A decision in bad faith to avoid becoming informed about something so as to avoid having to make undesirable decisions that such information might prompt. And another that aligns with Mel's definition (rational wiki): Willful ignorance differs from ordinary “ignorance“ - when someone is simply unaware of something - in that willfully ignorant people are fully aware of facts, resources, and sources, but refuse to acknowledge them. Ugh semantics. It's frustrating when a conversation derails because of the definition of a word. So silly!
@pegbuckner507421 күн бұрын
Thank you, Mel! Hold him accountable! 👏🏻
@ddjura26 күн бұрын
3:22 "It's not willful ignorance, cuz I'm not ignorant to what's happening, I'm just choosing not to think about it.." I'm just going to leave this here, let that sink in.
@martinkevin482727 күн бұрын
Appeal to nature fallacy, and malzoan hypocracy , typical excuses. Great outreach Mel.
@Itsmelandsteve27 күн бұрын
Thank you 🙏🌱
@FreddieAl27 күн бұрын
Malzoan 😂😂😂. Do you really believe veganism will become the default position. In your dreams. You will never have the numbers to make the change.
@climaksy165927 күн бұрын
@@FreddieAl Seething are we? Do not like being proven wrong?
@FreddieAl27 күн бұрын
@climaksy1659 I've not been proven wrong, why do you say that?
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Cry and seeth fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@ssabykoops27 күн бұрын
you didn't call him ignorant . he just doesn't understand the usage of the word. Ignorant doesn't mean stupid !!!
@gregorimicleson8 күн бұрын
she needs to check her facts and not lie ,murder is the crime of premeditated killing of one human being by another therefore you can`t murder an animal
@NathanBlackberry27 күн бұрын
Vegan for the victims🙏💚🫂🐷🐔🐮🐕🐱🐒🦃🦊❤️❤️❤️
@Itsmelandsteve27 күн бұрын
💯 🩷💚🌱
@martinkevin482727 күн бұрын
🖐
@Trolloftruth27 күн бұрын
Freak show
@FreddieAl27 күн бұрын
Hush Kathoey
@AzxVhy27 күн бұрын
Animals are my food, my food yummy 🤤
@Rescue12726 күн бұрын
This guy is completely ignorant and chooses to stay that way. He is not a lion but yet he tries to compare himself to one but that would mean by his logic that he rapes and kills people is that what he's saying? He is a human being which means he was given a moral compass to know the difference between right and wrong. Abusing an animal is wrong and everyone knows it and that's why non-vegans will get defensive at vegans. It makes them look at their own self and realize they have to deal with their choices and they don't want to. Animals deserve to be free and not enslaved mutilated or tortured. Obviously most people have such a high meat addiction that they can't stop themselves. Once you lose compassion and empathy you don't have anything left.
@ValeriaRossellini27 күн бұрын
Great work as usual, thank you 💗💗
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Cry about meat eaters and animal slaughter fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@darrenchandlercoaching27 күн бұрын
Mel: that’s willful ignorance Him: no it’s not Him: describes his thinking and behaviour that exactly defines willful ignorance
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Cry about it delusional vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@davidformosa762627 күн бұрын
Awesome work dealing with a wasted crack head Mel!! Patience of a saint!!
@OmegaPointZen27 күн бұрын
If he is still alive in five years time, I will be amazed. 😁
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Cry vegan
@robinhood614327 күн бұрын
this guy doesnt understand english or how speaking works in general
@stevesas63227 күн бұрын
That happens when you take things & want to impersonate the worst of other cultures 😆
@RoidRage-yc7yg27 күн бұрын
She was the one who didn't understand what murder means.
@MoistVegan27 күн бұрын
He says might makes right
@mcc529527 күн бұрын
Great video ❤❤❤❤
@Itsmelandsteve27 күн бұрын
Thank you 🙏 🩷💚
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Stay mad vegan. 🤡
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
@@Itsmelandsteve cry
@TheVeganFinalBoss26 күн бұрын
@@CryHarderTrashVegans what an embarrassing existence, entire account dedicated to trolling others.. get a bloody life
@robindao527 күн бұрын
the ego is a disorder.
@robindao527 күн бұрын
The display of selfishness, gaslighting and psychopathy was wild
@v.a.n.e.27 күн бұрын
I haven't read an uglier thought in a while. since when is a lack of self-respect a virtue?
@SlimesmoreUK27 күн бұрын
Noun. willful ignorance (uncountable) (idiomatic, law) A decision in bad faith to avoid becoming informed about something so as to avoid having to make undesirable decisions that such information might prompt.
@colewiesbrook891627 күн бұрын
Great job at holding him accountable mel. He does sound like a narccisist who only cares about himself. Putting an innocent pig in a gas chamber is horrible and disrespectful to the pig. I know all about meat eaters getting defensive and not being able to handle the truth about factory farms. When i tell my two brothers tyler and austin about factory farms and that they abuse and torture animals on factory farms they get super defensive and start throwing a tempet tantrum at me because they are all butthurt about the truth. There might be some compaassion inside this guy here. My brother tyler gets so butthurt that he will start pouting and ranting because he doesnt have any facts or evidence to back up what he says ever. He is sick in the head and blaspemizes god and jesus. Me and you mel we have facts and evidence to back up what we say. Meat eaters never have any facts or evidence to back up what they say. Great job at staying calm mel. You and steve always stay so calm. I always stay calm when i am talking to my brother tyler about factory farms because i know how to always stay calm. It sets off my brother a lot. Great video mel. Keep up the great work until every animal is free. We will end factory farms forever.
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
I ain't reading allat. A whole paragraph of yappanese and copium. Cry about it and stay mad fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@mitchgoldstein672027 күн бұрын
He needs a hug, learning the truth can be extremely difficult and takes time to accept and move forward with
@rondarkman.27 күн бұрын
Truth is animals are a great product, best cope
@morejoy518827 күн бұрын
@@rondarkman. Take Copium
@rondarkman.27 күн бұрын
@morejoy5188 What's that sir?
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Stay mad vegan. Animals are here to be eaten. Cope harder 🫵😹🤡
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
@@morejoy5188 ur copium levels are off the charts trash vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@bodilrummelhoff737227 күн бұрын
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@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Cry vegan
@lauratanln27 күн бұрын
Hard to talk to those who do not bother to think about what they are doing to animals even though they know it's cruel for animals to be abused and gassed or slit.
@smotty2hotty27 күн бұрын
Most land animals are herbivores so why do they choose to bring up a minority species to justify their selfish greedy and cruel behavior????
@rondarkman.27 күн бұрын
It's my food cry more
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Cry some more fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@SlimesmoreUK27 күн бұрын
You know what I love to say to people who say its limited. I couldnt care less if its limited or not. Simple as that.
@saywhat30327 күн бұрын
Drugs are bad mmmkay....and so is meat.
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Respect ny AUTHORITAH trash vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@dieradikaleveganerin27 күн бұрын
I love it. Your energy is everything, thanks for the great work xx
@FreddieAl27 күн бұрын
Hush
@dieradikaleveganerin27 күн бұрын
@@FreddieAl Ohhh my friend Freddie! You're truly a fan, watching aaaaall the vegan videos. Amazing :) Keep it up, maybe, one day, you'll also be able to understand. All the best xx
@FreddieAl27 күн бұрын
@dieradikaleveganerin I understand you have no chance in turning me into a vegturd. This morning I've been watching some butchery pages, very skilled people.
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Cry about it fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@jjradV27 күн бұрын
Once you know you can't unknow it, once you have seen the suffering and torture of kind,innocent, defenceless,imprisoned sentient beings with your own eyes you can't unsee it ! Shame on anyone that continues to participate after seeing the brutality of YOUR food choices !! Thank you Mel for everything you are doing for the animals !!
@rondarkman.27 күн бұрын
Meh I kill my own food... cry more
@FreddieAl27 күн бұрын
I've known that animals die for our food for around 60 years, I can live with it.
@jjradV27 күн бұрын
@@FreddieAl one is either an animal abuser or one is not !
@FreddieAl27 күн бұрын
@@jjradV One doesn't give a fuck or one doesn't give a fuck. I personally don't give a fuck. Is that clear for you w⚓️
@DuncanCrawley27 күн бұрын
@@FreddieAlAnd yet you spend so much time on Animal Rights channels trying to defend what you do
@Mercymurv27 күн бұрын
Good job.
@capucinebellucci347626 күн бұрын
Vegan activist Hero ✊✊✊✊
@CDAActivism27 күн бұрын
🙀 🙀 🙀 🙀 🙀
@v.a.n.e.27 күн бұрын
well, that wasn't very polite of you. all cool kids refrain from making insults.
@MustardSkaven25 күн бұрын
Murder does say human in the definition. Cause it's not just killing a human, it's specifically illegally killing a human. "the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another" The fact that it's illegal is what makes it murder. Cause there are cases where such a killing is legal => not murder.
@sn1per19627 күн бұрын
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@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Grow up, fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@MegJenkins-j7u26 күн бұрын
looking at this that guy is acting like hes on drugs I have my reasons why I see that hes aruuing with the truth he thinks slaughter isnt murder trying to justify it
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Cry about it fatherless vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@GS-lq2is25 күн бұрын
3:00 - dude, what you are admittedly doing is literally the definition of willful ignorance.
@rosekmv27 күн бұрын
how do you talk to people like this?
@Serendipity-gj2me27 күн бұрын
Meat is a dangerous drug! It's an adrenalin rush and hard for many to give it up.
@FreddieAl27 күн бұрын
So fucking what
@Unmasking_Viandalisme26 күн бұрын
No. Vs simply accept any nonsensical proposal which supports their simplistic ideology. Meat is nutritious.
@smotty2hotty27 күн бұрын
It’s not so much ignorance as he knows what goes on but doesn’t care. it’s more willful apathy and arrogance!!!
@josiecirigliano913427 күн бұрын
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@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Stay mad and cry about animal slaughter bozo. 🫵😹🤡
@Yavor-Karapetrov27 күн бұрын
I will tell you what is Willful Ignorance - your assumption, that he is compassionate. He was 100% Right. He is Aware of what is happening (at least for the Murder, before he met you), and he is Choosing to pay for it or to do it. I didn't hear what exactly he said, but I think he said that he Himself killed these Sentient Beings... for Money. And again, he knew he had a Choice Not to do it... But anyway he did it. So, he is 100% Aware! Only you are Willfully Ignorant. "I am not judging you; I am not judging you" Please Wake up finally and understand, that Most people, like this guy, are just Evil!
@TheFootballPoet27 күн бұрын
Meat eater 1-0 Mel . He dominated that One
@SixStringSteve27 күн бұрын
If winning is measured by how much verbal diarrhea is produced, then I agree.
@TheFootballPoet27 күн бұрын
@@SixStringSteve nah he won . Mel was poor here
@SlimesmoreUK27 күн бұрын
@@SixStringSteve Was just thinking this. Guy lost his rag because he got called out on what he was saying. Yet somehow he dominated the conversation? If anything he just came across like a nob. Shes treating him like she would anyone else saying she would try and protect him and hes just plain rude about it.
@sid-d4w27 күн бұрын
Explain why you think that? 🤔
@TheFootballPoet27 күн бұрын
He wouldn't get bullied by her ..those normal vegan tactics of insulting and belittling people and bullying ...he wouldn't have it He dominated
@FreddieAl27 күн бұрын
2:23 You're wrong, again. Murder is defined as the unlawful killing of another human being with malice aforethought, intention or deliberate intent to cause' death or inflict grievous bodily harm. In the UK legal system, it is the most serious form of homicide and carries a mandatory sentence of life imprisonment. HOW MANY SLAUGHTERMEN ARE IN PRISON FOR KILLING ANIMALS? I'll give you a clue, it's between 0 and zero.
@TheVeganFinalBoss26 күн бұрын
This was your attempt at an argument? "Murder is defined as the unlawful killing of another human being with malice aforethought, intention or deliberate intent to cause' death or inflict grievous bodily harm" Did anyone say it fit the legal definition of 'murder' If you didn't get it yet, we're not here to defend animals with the law, under the law they have NO rights. We're here to defend animals in SPITE of the law, because legality =/= morality, what's legal is not moral, slavery was once legal. "HOW MANY SLAUGHTERMEN ARE IN PRISON FOR KILLING ANIMALS? I'll give you a clue, it's between 0 and zero." Because.. that... is... their.. job.. Now why do we have laws against animal cruelty? why do people get jail sentences for abusing animals? How many are in prison for killing animals who AREN'T SLAUGHTERHOUSE WORKERS? A great many! So, with that being said, if we have laws protecting animals from abuse, why don't we push for even greater rights and protections for ALL animals, not just the ones society/culture has deemed aren't to be eaten..
@FreddieAl26 күн бұрын
@TheVeganFinalBoss It wasn't an argument. It's a statement of fact. Get beck to licking your lettuce leaf dollshead.
@juliuspuras947815 күн бұрын
The vegans knows the truth how many animals have to kill for the bowl of green leaf?
@jemlettuce27 күн бұрын
Wow you sure touched a nerve there! He really couldn’t handle it. Weird how he got so offended when you pointed out that choosing to ignore and look away was wilful ignorance 🤦♀️
@FreddieAl27 күн бұрын
It's his choice and it's not illegal. Cry harder
@FreddieAl27 күн бұрын
Shoplifter
@CryHarderTrashVegans26 күн бұрын
Cry harder vegan. 🫵😹🤡
@GS-lq2is25 күн бұрын
Great job, but you gotta stop saying that the dictionary definition of murder doesn't limit it to humans (2:19) , because the definition absolutely does make it about humans. Here are some samples of definitions of murder: "the crime of unlawfully and unjustifiably killing a person ," "the unlawful premeditated killing of one human being by another," "the killing of a human being by a sane person, with intent, malice aforethought," and so on and so on. That you might find a definition here or there that leaves out these words doesn't mean anything - this is clearly the accepted meaning. The far better point is that that is just semantics and that unjustified killing of animals is wrong. (PS - I had bolded (or I thought that was what I was doing) the most relevant words like "human being" and then those words were deleted in my comment! Ha. So I added the relevant words back - unbolded this time to be safe .)
@Untillallarefree24 күн бұрын
The first example you give from the dictionary does not limit this to humans. The sentence ends on person. Animals are exactly that they have personalities therefore they are a person.
@GS-lq2is24 күн бұрын
@@Untillallarefree You can think that animals are persons you like, but we're talking about dictionary definitions - and the dictionary says that a person is a human (it has other definitions, but none of them include non-human animals.). And you know that "person" means human to almost everyone on the planet. Veganism is, in my opinion, an unarguable moral imperative. The reasons for it are utterly compelling - which is why I think we don't need to have even a whiff of dishonesty in our arguments for it. Feel free to argue all day long that definitions of murder and person etc. should include non-human animals, but don't pretend like our dictionaries or societally accepted definitions already do. They don't.
@oliverhood785627 күн бұрын
You can live on other people's money. Just like the muppets.
@lggsretrofinds446127 күн бұрын
so only way is the your way sounds like a cult to me
@Itsmelandsteve27 күн бұрын
We are normal You are the carnist cult
@OmegaPointZen27 күн бұрын
Cults are not founded on rational thought, Veganism is. Please learn how to Think. 😁
@v.a.n.e.27 күн бұрын
most of them struggle with anger management; the vast majority are not even vegan. they are using such opportunities to manifest their anger without consequences.
@lggsretrofinds446127 күн бұрын
@@Itsmelandsteve nah u social media vegan wariiors who got brainwashed by fellow cult member joey eattofustrong i know real vegans we get allong well we never push views leave together peacefully
@rondarkman.27 күн бұрын
@Itsmelandsteve What's carnist? Is it meant to be insulting or something? Since has eating any food a cult?