Velma Thinks It's Self-Aware But it Isn't (Quick Review)

The Possum tells you about Velma, that Scooby-Doo spin-off on HBO Max.

[@Rusty126]

Mindy is the definition of privilege. She grew up upper class, went to an ivy league college, and never had to struggle to get to where she is. She made Velma her self insert, but this version of Fred is actually her.

[@acemarvel1564]

Yoda: strong with hypocrisy she is mmmmm And like it smells too

[@shaggyrogers8869]

She didn’t even play collage ball.

[@spade8094]

I dont/cant imagine her as mindy, I only think of kelly fucking kapoor. its so accurate its scary

[@ingloriousMachina]

@@spade8094 So I genuinely could not stand Kelly... I know she was supposed to be loveable or at least funny, but I knew way too many Kellies in high school and it makes me want to staple things to her forehead. Then again, I got bullied relentlessly in high school because I was an Angela minus the cheating because nobody wanted to touch me anyway.

[@pogicus89]

@@ingloriousMachina angela and Dwight were the most based characters in the Office. Don’t feel bad for being like them.

[@applescruff1969]

I don't blame Scooby for not showing up for this one.

[@SuigaRou]

Scooby Doo was like, "Ain't enough scooby snacks in the world to make me be part of this shit."

[@pogicus89]

Raggy!! Rey turned you rinto a RIGGER!! Like scoob, you can’t say that word!!

[@Nightmare-zc7wc]

@@pogicus89 Despite making up rithteen percent of the population, Raggy...

[@ScumSookar]

@@pogicus89 REHEHEHEHEHE RI'LL RAY IT AGAIN RAGGY! RIGG--... *Scooby-Doo Gets Cancelled title-card*

[@grambo4436]

Scooby not showing up is a miracle

[@Koppu1doragon]

I want to point out they race swapped Velma AND THEN made her less competent. They race swapped Shaggy AND THEN made fun of him for being a loser.

[@FullKnight51]

@@ChopsWildRide bruh

[@dustingiffin9569]

@@ChopsWildRide Black people aren't losers though, or less competent. A loser is a loser, whether he's white or black. No credit to give here... race swapping is retarded, especially done like this.

[@Misanthropolis]

Yeah Mindy isn't very bright... then again... nobody from Ivy League universities actually is.

[@Koppu1doragon]

@@FullKnight51 What he's just saying they are reflecting the reality that the writers like to make fun of Black people.

[@NewCanada]

They didn't do a very good job of making Velma South Asian because most people think she's black. If you're going to race swap at least do it correctly. Last I checked Mindy isn't black.

[@jaffa3717]

Something that's become really apparent lately, is that most family friendly films and shows are actually far more mature than most 'adult' films/shows. Family cartoons usually have clever writing and some sort of message to teach. 'Adult' cartoons are usually just full of forced unfunny drug and sex jokes which would only entertain a teenager at best

[@Petaurista13]

Because for some dummies "adult cartoon" simply means they can do stuff that are risk of higher age category, not being more mature.

[@mallios13]

That's been a thing for years. Family Guy lampshaded the fact with its intro starting back in the late 90s. It's grown worse, so to your credit, it has become even more apparent with every generation. So now it's just obnoxiously obvious how puerile anything "adult" or "mature" really is.

[@bigkirbyhj666]

Honestly I feel that way about adult media to be honest, cause so many people will change yhe channel if there isn't explosions or tits in the first minute

[@autobotstarscream765]

Exhibit A: The Scooby-Doo! franchise. Just put this mess next to Zombie Island and Mystery Incorporated.

[@cartooncritique6625]

That's probably because the mainstream (mainly in the West) think the only adults who watch cartoons are immature...so essentially they're intentionally insulting us.

[@sugoisenpai92]

It feels like Mindy never grew out of being a highschool bully and never became self-aware of how shitty she acts towards others.

[@thejumboboi2213]

I like your profile pic fellow user

[@palladiamorsdeus]

Fred is SIXTEEN. Holy mother of God the amount of abuse that they heap on someone who is a step above a child is disgusting.

[@thebatman4279]

He's rich and white...BOOOO! As if those things alone make somebody worthy of mockery.

[@MrSadisticLlama]

but its ok because hes white and a man. But don't you DARE make fun on anyone colored or female

[@zoboothemafoo]

@@MrSadisticLlama Well, they did. There's Norville. He wasn't body shamed but its not like emotional abuse is any better.

[@Misanthropolis]

@@zoboothemafoo Actually yeah, it is rather ironic that a show catered to woke people made fun of a black guy's emotions. How very... racist of Mindy. She would have called a white writer racist for this.

[@zoboothemafoo]

@@Misanthropolis I legit feel like they made her black so that people wouldn't call on her bs. Guess that just didn't work.

[@nicksnation1209]

This show is everything that is wrong with adult animated cartoons

[@freeziboi3249]

Exactly ffs, so awful, actual dogshit

[@zvenafnazbalji7539]

You'd be absolutely disgusted when you watch Fair View then.

[@blunderingfool]

@@zvenafnazbalji7539 Worse than that one mocking the royal family?

[@trueneese8080]

And television in general. Sophomoronic, I think that’s the word for it

[@acemarvel1564]

This is why I stick to " kids cartoons" at least those have charm

[@ritanman9578]

The moment where Velma made joke where she insulted people who watch animated stuff and animation in general is where the show and the show runners showed their hipocricy and where they shot themselves in the foot

[@peterang78]

That joke alone gives you an idea what this cartoon is all about. No passion, no using the medium to express one self, no care, just pure mockery of their audience, and a waste of their animators talent.

[@ritanman9578]

@@peterang78 yes exactly And it clearly shows

[@tjenadonn6158]

@@peterang78 There needs to be an animators strike.

[@SteveSmith-ty8ko]

@@peterang78 It’s okay though no one likes this show not even the people they sought to suck up to

[@RatRatRattyRatRat]

First minute of the show goes over why everything with this show is bad. It's honestly funny.

[@justinx.8949]

Mindy Kaling's brother pretending to be black to get into an Ivy League via affirmative action is unironically funnier than anything she's written yet in her TV/film career.

[@vanhelsing4602]

@@bbryant460 Joke of the week, thank you.

[@insomniagobrrr5542]

How are you EVERYWHERE?

[@lunabearsong2043]

So, that part of his life is literally the plot to Soul Man? That is WILD.

[@attiasprouse682]

She was a writer for The Office.

[@EL-ISS]

@@insomniagobrrr5542 first time? 🗿

[@mariokarter13]

The trap most "adult" cartoons fall into is that they think sex and violence equates to maturity. It's a child's idea of maturity, that's why it appeals to teenagers.

[@AxenfonKlatismrek]

You know, its really sad when Original Scooby Doo is more mature than Rick and Morty.

[@RickCortez-qd1np]

​@@AxenfonKlatismrekR&M, would be a great show if Rick himself wasn't such a holier-than-thou, always-in-the-right, irredeemable sociopath whose throat needs to be slit worse than Rick Prime's.

[@Falconlibrary]

Mindy Kaling's c.v.: Father is a well-known architect, mother was a successful doctor Grew up in the rich area of Cambridge, Massachusetts Graduate Darmouth College (Ivy League) with a degree in playwriting (they have degrees in that?) Immediately went to work in show business--never waitressed, never did housekeeping, never did an honest day's work in her life, just went from a rich suburb to a rich kids' school to a rich kids' idea of a job And she can't write characters that are real, funny, and relatable? Who could have seen that coming?

[@TheRealW.S.Foster]

If there comes a time when Miriam-Webster needs a picture to put next to the word privilege, I'm seriously thinking we ought to start a petition to have them put a picture of Mindy Kaling next to it.

[@bjcantrell1990]

Congratulations, you just described 99% of the woke mob.

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

🤮

[@austinreed7343]

RAFFINA is a more compelling individual than this.

[@pixelraster9588]

Sounds like that degree is fucking worthless, lol.

[@CalvinMcMurray]

"Male power fantasies are stereotypical and overdone." (replaces everything with female and black power fantasies) "Such a breath of fresh air. Things are so unpredictable now"

[@squirrel670]

What black power fantasy, I've never heard or fantasized about any of this and the black guy's feelings get shit on. What female power fantasy? As a black woman, I'm on the boat it was made to piss people off.

[@user-vg8ox3he1i]

I have to point out that the only black power fantasies that get made now are black FEMALE fantasies. Black men are castrated, made gay, made the best friend or the nerd stereotype.

[@squirrel670]

@@user-vg8ox3he1i it isn't a black female power fantasy, I promise you.

[@x_VineM_x]

Indian dammit. Its racist to add us to this badtardisted bs...an Indiana woman is at the helm....fuck And norville can eat a dick smh

[@kealunleday3948]

Trust me black people hate this show too😆

[@acemarvel1564]

The only thing self aware about this show is how depressed the staff has to be to stir up flavorless mush like this

[@tjenadonn6158]

Seriously the amount of misanthropy oozing through every frame makes Rust Chole from "True Detective" look like a ray of blinding sunshine. I've never seen a show that so actively hated not just its audience, or its source material, or its characters, or its world, or it's plot, but went below and beyond all of those to hating the very fact of its existence. It's almost miraculous how this thing exists at all despite the fact that zero people on earth actually like it or want it to continue existing.

[@acemarvel1564]

@@tjenadonn6158 even when the swarms have past away Hatred still empowers them

[@tarrker]

Oh god. Can you imagine being a cartoonist, working your way up the ladder? You finally get to work on a mainstream production and... it's this. LoL that just had to suck.

[@acemarvel1564]

@@tarrker 😬

[@gumebe4349]

@@tarrker I feel like at least one of the animators or storyboard artists took a look at the script and considered offing themselves

[@ghostlybugged186]

The show smiling friends knew how to write an adult cartoon, so much better than the basic gore/sex/swearing every minute formula

[@thismakesnosense]

That show definitly deserves more attention

[@MrM0gus]

Smiling friend is the best adult cartoon I watch so far. Yes I watched family guy, South Park, Simpson, Rick and morty , etc. but this show is so different. There joke doesn’t have politic, sex, drug. To show they are adults cartoon. Just amazing

[@ethanglasgow7612]

Such a good show. Animation is awesome, humor/writing is some of the best of any show, all the while having tons of respect for the internet culture that allowed the show to be made in the first place. My favorite thing about it was how they actually USED the medium of animation to make a unique world/characters. While shows like Velma are basically sitcoms with very little reason to be animated other than to have the excuse that it’s “adult animation.”

[@tehrik0020]

@@MrM0gus Family Guy's humor is at an historical worst for me, it's either nonsensical cut-aways, actual pointless slapstick or Peter explaining the punchline in advance before a set-up for said punchline can even be delivered, because of course the writers just assumed the audience was too stupid to get the joke in the first place or something. Sometimes you do get something vaguely funny like "Brian, being a writer is the only thing that gives your alcoholism any credibility", most of the time you get Peter going "Lois, I'm going through my Daniel Craig phase" or some stuff and then you get a 10 seconds cutaway of him acting like 007.

[@demonslayer5122]

@@MrM0gus At least South Park is still holding up. Rick and Morty is uncertain. Family Guy and The Simpsons are lost causes.

[@Jilktube]

"Mom I want Daria!" HBO: "We have Daria at home"

[@dikkie1000]

Don't give them any ideas to spoil that one, please.

[@zsheets7483]

See also Duckman.

[@sharkinator7819]

Honestly, the Scooby-Doo franchise has done dark and edgy way better in the past. I remember as a kid checking out Zombie Island from the library thinking it would be a typical Scooby show. Boy, I was in for a shock. At least it was actually good

[@justwastingtimeonyt9952]

Is that the one with the evil cat ladys

[@balanc-joy9187]

@@justwastingtimeonyt9952 Yes it is. At the end, they, and the zombies, have the skin _separate from their bones_ as they die, on screen!!

[@sharkinator7819]

@@justwastingtimeonyt9952 yes, that one

[@NewCanada]

They apparently ruined it with the sequel years later.

[@jacknickolstine3355]

Yeah that's the one with a cat furrys?

[@ingloriousMachina]

You didn't just find garbage, you found the whole landfill.

[@etsequentia6765]

The landfill is on fire. It's a landfill fire. With multiple trains crashing into it. Multile trainwrecks into a giant landfill. On fire. It's an embarrassing public atomic failure. Velma is a real stinker.

[@default5900]

The nudity in this is way worse than any fanservice that the creators of Velma would complain about on Twitter. Woke writers who claim to hate this and that always end up being hypocrites to extreme degrees. It's even become a meme to compile examples of this

[@TheAngryXenite]

It's especially bad considering these are high schoolers, and to my knowledge not even seniors. They're not "barely legal," they're like 16 years old and being shown off in the showers with nothing but suds covering the bare essentials. What the fuck.

[@mallios13]

The big hilarity here is that the only reason they're including this nudity at all is due to their staff artists/animators being people around 30 or younger who've developed their artistic skills drawing smut for Tumblr, Deviantart, etc. They don't have to worry about their employees questioning this stuff, because they're drawing way worse garbage in their own free time.

[@rawrdino7046]

I bet these are the same people that get mad when it happens in anime

[@autobotstarscream765]

@@rawrdino7046 The Velma Show makes High School DxD look like a tender love letter to coming of age.

[@enoch6599]

@@rawrdino7046 Are you saying its a bad thing that people get mad when it happens in anime or just pointing it out.

[@thegreatandpowerfuldc5977]

4:10 And the best part is that they try to critique “toxic masculinity” and use the typical talking point of “men should express their emotions”. They don’t give a damn about men’s emotions. They’re so full of it.

[@keiichi8191]

8:38 "That's her arc! She's gonna become a better person over the course of the show!" Yeah, those people said the same thing about Kitt from Willow, and look how that turned out. Despite being a thoroughly spiteful and envious character for the entirety of the season, they ended it by simply declaring "she's the best EVAR" via a magical cuirass that only actives for those who are pure of heart...which of course activates only for her. Zero internal character development or change. Just external validation. Ditto for She-Hulk, where everyone assumed they were making Jennifer such an arrogant b-tch to Bruce because her arc would be learning how difficult of a life he's had to lead, and how her mundane irritations pale by comparison to what it means to be a hulk. Nope. No lessons were ever learned, and everything just worked out for her in the end with zero sacrifice or effort involved. The people behind these characters are such selfish narcissists that they simply don't possess the lived framework to be able to write a likable protagonist. They are ironically everything that they project onto their white male stereotypes: privileged, sheltered children who've never had to struggle for anything in their lives, had everything handed to them, and have no idea what the world is like outside of their rich, metropolitan, coastal ivory towers.

[@moseyonover733]

Also, the burden of getting audiences invested in flawed characters is ALWAYS on the writer. If a writer doesn't have the skill to weave little snippets of likeability into a jerk character so people will actually stick around long enough to see meaningful growth, then THEY'VE failed the audience, not the other way around.

[@DelinquentChibi]

This isn't Velma, this is Mindy dressed as Velma being normal Mindy.

[@theblackswordsman5039]

I’d do my best to avoid these kinds of “mature shows” because I don’t want to subjugate myself through that kind of torture, I will never understand how these people could possibly call this show “mature” or any other modern adult show for that matter, it’s like media only wants to destroy entertainment.

[@michaelknox3715]

@@ChopsWildRide It's just mediocre tv no big deal

[@tarrker]

LoL right? This is like a 13 year old's idea of "being mature". :P

[@andreafraustoz]

Tuca Bertie is way mature despite with TV-14 rating because it treats viewers like 25-30 adults, Castlevania still has mature commentary about power and corruption that is worth watching with a splash of colorful fantastical elements from games

[@TheAbsol7448]

In trying to be more mature, it ironically ended up being less mature than the actual kids' series. Violence and sex doesn't equal maturity.

[@theblackswordsman5039]

@@TheAbsol7448 it’s like if the media can’t decide what should be considered mature and/or immature or just think that animation is just for kids so they should treat the mature audience like kids.

[@Misanthropolis]

No this is not Sacrificial Trash, this is completely serious. Mindy literally played a character in the Office with this very attitude and personality (if you can call it that).

[@TOMEYEARSAGO]

Mindy used her power to assualt Lee Pace, threatened her staff to keep their mouths shut using her position and bragged about it on late night television. I thought they locked Harvey up for stuff like this

[@thresholdhatesrevenant2620]

You know that any show that race swaps an established character is going to be exactly like this without exception .

[@autobotstarscream765]

They literally race-swapped _into_ racism, with a black bitch, a black stoner, and the martial artist is Asian. It's like Minoriteam multiplied by Medea, except those are actually funny.

[@xRandomCityx]

And people that are the race that the character was swapped to aren't happy either

[@kempolar9768]

Don't change a character to be something that they never were, make a new character exactly how you want them. A simple rule that all these weirdos who race-wash and gay-wash established characters don't understand.

[@impossikour3309]

@@xRandomCityx Honestly really true, I'm Indian and OMG race swapping is so stupid. If you are gonna make an Indian character, which is great, just make a new character, and for the love of god, don't make it the whole show's essence and make a really shitty show

[@dfx13productions47]

Who woke up and said “hey I want a edgy woke scooby doo all about Velma and no Scooby doo”

[@detectivemememachin5011]

Mindy. Mindy thought of that

[@Gchildwarrior]

At this point, Scooby should stay out of it. I consider that a mercy

[@autobotstarscream765]

Scooby refuses to take part in this "woke" racist minstrel show.

[@yeet8627]

sounds like it’s written by an edy woke 14 year old fanfic writer on wattpad

[@supereldinho]

I remember that one episode fom The Fairly Oddparents where the comic-book villain Nega Chin gets so fed up with losing to the hero that he goes into the real world, finds the in-universe creator of the comic and beats the crap out of him. THAT is how you do self-awareness right, not by subjecting the audience to straight-faced abysmal writing and then claiming it was done ironically. That's literally the same excuse Tommy Wiseau had when he claimed The Room was intentionally made terrible, even though anyone with half a brain could tell the guy was a complete nincompoop that took 30 takes to do the "I did not hit her" scene right -- which he himself wrote. You can't make crap like this by accident, much less pretend that you were deliberately aiming to provoke people as part of some elaborate shitpost, especially when the audience makes it clear that they're not even deriving ironic entertainment from it. In direct violation of Hanlon's razor, shows like Velma and She Hulk were made out of genuine malice rather than mere incompetence.

[@dudebruh8534]

The... *inhales* *N E G A C H I N!!!*

[@tjenadonn6158]

Or when the Great Monster of Arrrrgh in "Monty Python and The Holy Grail" is defeated by the animator keeling over from a heart attack.

[@thepeanut3126]

Fallout New Vegas player spotted.

[@yuvalgabay1023]

@@dudebruh8534 its racist to both balck and asians

[@dudebruh8534]

@@yuvalgabay1023 The antagonist nega chin was a polar opposite to the super chin hero and was called nega because its short for negative and he was from a negative universe. It's just a copy of spiderman and venom you goober. Only a person like you who is terminally online would call it racist.

[@AmazingKevinWClark]

The creators would also be the first ones to cancel anime for putting risky things in with high schoolers but here we see they don't actually have a problem with it. It's all about getting attention.

[@autobotstarscream765]

This makes High School DxD look like a wholesome tribute to coming of age.

[@AmazingKevinWClark]

@Autobot Starscream ah no, sorry to say, but that anime has way more nudity in it.

[@autobotstarscream765]

@@AmazingKevinWClark I mean in terms of one of them feeling a bit mean-spirited in comparison to the other at least trying to feel positive, in its own typical light novel franchise way.

[@AmazingKevinWClark]

@@autobotstarscream765 ok

[@samuelademeso9041]

The difference between anime high school shows is that they actually tell a story. velma creators don't know how to tell a story

[@fatemakhan3843]

Mindy grew up with rich parents, never worked a day job & was handed a Hollywood job through her parents contracts & influences. So when she wrote Fred as a spoiled rich kid with no soul. Yeah i can definitely see she's really writing herself. This is what we in the business call "The Projection" & a classic Freudian Slip.

[@Dreadjaws]

To be fair, "Norville" was always Shaggy's name (Shaggy being his nickname), and that's how much leeway I'm giving this show. Every other complaint about it is 100% true. And while I also believe that the writers are not self aware enough to write this cartoon as a parody of "woke" shows I have no doubt executives are counting on people hate watching it. And, sadly, going by the rating numbers, they seem to be right. I hope everyone stops watching when new episodes come out. Otherwise they're going to renew the show and it's going to be 100% the fault of those who are hate-watching it.

[@JAM92]

Norville is Shaggy's actual name, has been from around the start. It's easy to miss since it's only been used once or twice ever in the old Scooby-doo cartoons. I'm kinda certain it was first said by Velma when she was reading out loud something official that involved Shaggy in some way. I may be completely wrong with those details though.

[@Misanthropolis]

It was also mentioned a few times by Velma in Mystery Incorporated (imo, a good sendoff for the Scooby Doo series).

[@GreatFox42]

He was called it fairly often in Pup and MI (basically the shows where the parents are present to a degree)

[@NewCanada]

Yeah Norville Rogers is his actual name. He most likely gave himself the name Shaggy because he didn't like his legal name.

[@CarlosGarcia2]

Only his parents called him Norville. His friends call him Shaggy. Keyword is friends. Velma is not his friend. Or maybe they thought calling a black character "Shaggy" would be racist or something. This show is dumb and so is everyone involved.

[@FablesTold]

Yep. Norville Rogers and Scoobert Doo. I have no idea why they wouldn't just call Shaggy "Shaggy" though, unless maybe they were worried about having to make "Wasn't Me" jokes and maybe they didn't have the budget to pay royalties for it.

[@captainstroon1555]

Calling those adolescent shows adult cartoons gives actual heartfelt and thought provoking animation a bad rep.

[@mallios13]

Considering most "adult" and "mature" content is puerile, and has been for many years, this is just by the numbers.

[@captainstroon1555]

@@mallios13 But it shouldn't be. Is that what we concider being adult? Violence in movies and sex on TV? Are boob jokes and gross out humour what makes us mature?

[@TheKing-qz9wd]

@@captainstroon1555 It's what I hear from drunks, so maybe. But we also can be better than that

[@autobotstarscream765]

Mystery Incorporated was more mature than this "mature" installment.

[@justaghostinthesea]

@@TheKing-qz9wd Breaking News: we can be better than drunks

[@D-Nova]

0:20 Basically, all the things edgy teenagers would consider to be "mature". Meanwhile og Scooby Doo is watched mostly by adults.

[@noname-ih5rd]

If any agenda is being pushed, it’s a divisionary one. The whole men v women, poc v white, straight v gay, rich v poor… I could go on. I’m so sick of modern media being so divisionary. Like what happened to nuance and complex character arcs? Instead creators just pick a demographic and shame another one. It’s boring, it’s tired, and it’s overwhelmingly NOT entertaining. Thanks for the review possum. Always appreciate your content!!

[@igodreamer7096]

"Isn't even worth to hate watching" - Well said, Possum man!

[@misterzygarde6431]

I could totally see Norville and Shaggy work as separate characters thinking about it. Like maybe they make Shaggy a stoner and have him and Norville not get off on the right foot before coming to respect one another. Also imagine how differently the series would go if they had everyone not be jerks.

[@hahano9586]

Your last statement especially. EVERYONE was such a prick!

[@Koppu1doragon]

Honestly, if these writers did that I'd imagine they'd make Shaggy gay / bi and try to get into Norvile's pants.

[@drynksoda7131]

Well the original Shaggy's name was Norville, Shaggy was just a nickname. They just don't call the race-swapped Shaggy by his nickname.

[@el-karasu6070]

@@Koppu1doragon You'd want that wouldn't you. I probably would tbh, as long as Shaggy is still Shaggy (and shagging lol)

[@Koppu1doragon]

@@el-karasu6070 Not really I am more pointing out how these writers are.

[@pheunithpsychic-watertype9881]

They're confusing self defecation for self deprecation

[@hanalexcranealister6799]

My theory is that the new CEO is trying to make the scripted shows flop and Velma is one of his plans to make it so he has a justification to make only reality shows

[@skyblade7438]

There is no CEO at WB, there's an army of monkies with typewriters.

[@msmaria5039]

Why is there a second season?

[@viniciusgoulart5077]

I heard they turned 1 full season into 2 smaller seasons... Marketing practices

[@pricelessppp]

Imagine those reality shows drag woke shit.

[@markmagician2471]

Or Mindy is an investor at WB

[@DEATH-THE-GOAT]

*_"Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made"_* ― JRR Tolkien _Never grows old!_ 😌

[@shwah8299]

This is why you don't see conservative artists and creators.

[@shwah8299]

@MusicMan Name a conservative creator that makes quality content.

[@thehonorablereverendaddiso1943]

@@shwah8299 Doug TenNapel, for one, made Gear, which was bitchin'. But you don't actually care about quality, because if you did, you wouldn't be a leftist.

[@Will_Parker]

​@@shwah8299 you do realize that saying that conservatives aren't in the absolutely degenerate and corrupt Hollywood machine is the opposite of saying conservatives are evil lol

[@austinreed7343]

Sadly it’s no longer true… evil CAN create now apparently.

[@JohnnyJetpack]

The best offense on the internet is to ignore bad shit like that completely and utterly, don't give them your attention, just forget it exists and don't talk about. Ignoring someone/something will hurt it even more than any word or action.

[@ablosch2452]

Worst thing about it is, I could see some of these things actually working in a Scooby-Doo Adult Series, but not like the way they implemented them here. Examples like this. Drug Abuse being like, say a plot where the reason one of the bad guys dresses as a monster and chases people is because he's high and out of his mind. Or the sexuality, like maybe something like a "Let's unmask the villain" scene where they end up pulling off his whole costume to reveal a naked person underneath, then they make jokes about his privates there. Or the blood and gore, well I guess maybe something like a bad guy who's actually willing to take a life or two. Or a scene where instead of being apprehended by the authorities, the bad guy in the monster costume decides to commit suicide. Something like that, but sadly this show seems to miss that mark.

[@msmaria5039]

That would be interesting. And Shaggy would think that Scooby talks all the time because he's as high as a kite.

[@ablosch2452]

@@msmaria5039 Yeah that’s another good one. The Shaggy Is A Stoner one.

[@msmaria5039]

Oh, and Supernatural did a darker version of Scooby Doo. It was a love letter to the series but there was death, swearing, and Dean hitting on Daphne.

[@bg8561]

While the first and third ones i think would be brilliant, i am not so convinced about the second one, that one sounds like a joke that would *actually* be in this dumpster fire

[@bg8561]

Or an arc where the Mystery Gang starts a case like every other episode, but it starts to evolve more and more to an even bigger and an even scarier complot that affects the whole wo... This was already done in Mystery Inc., wasn't it?

[@cheese6575]

"It's creepy and weird, why ya doin that??" Felt that

[@ab-gail]

1:33 The fact that the show is so bad that it spawned a conspiracy theory THAT goofy is just 🤌✨

[@autobotstarscream765]

It's literally racist and LGBTQPIKACHU+-phobic, great job Wokerz!

[@trenchcoatbees8386]

Don't forget about the bit where Norville is talking about drugs and dead ass looks at the camera and says "which I hate"

[@tedfromacounting]

The thing about the character growth defense is that a character has to have some redeeming qualities to draw us in and other characters to challenge their bad qualities. At best these shows tack that on in the last five minutes and act like everything is forgiven and the character is a moral paragon for having acknowledged their flaws without doing anything to show change.

[@imnotpayingchildsupport4506]

And this is the reason why people watch anime more is popular than cartoons now in the west in general

[@Tyler-f00k1n]

"They really are that stupid" - A very smart Possum

[@lorenzocassaro6188]

As far as I know, Shaggy's name has always been Norville, with the former being just a nickname. I remember Velma calling him Norville in "Mysteries Incorporated" (God that series was nightmare fuel!)

[@ksoundkaiju9256]

Mystery incorporated was like the last best scooby doo series Least better than this shit

[@lorenzocassaro6188]

@@ksoundkaiju9256 At the time it disturbed me seeing everything become so serious, but now, after all these years, I've started to appreciate how well made it was. And there were episodes, like the one with the "cows" that were genuinely terrifying

[@pecadodeorgullo5963]

@@ksoundkaiju9256 well, I know we're comparing rare metals here but I think you're forgetting about the scrappy doo shows.

[@justyouraverageblackstar3672]

The ideology of this show’s “self-awareness” is perfectly encapsulated with the quote “You can’t hurt my feelings if I’m in on the joke.”

[@Rpground]

It's nice when something so bad comes along that it can unite us all against it.

[@cheezypoof9949]

Loving how much stuff you’ve been making lately Possum. Thanks man

[@absentcoder4552]

He has a lot of ammunition.

[@wojtek9675]

Norville is actually shaggy’s real name.

[@tannerdodge6029]

Thank you, I thought more people knew this but apparently not

[@alan62036]

They're deadnaming Shaggy

[@thelord7185]

yeah btw nice historial reference

[@varsityreviews707]

@@tannerdodge6029 never was a scooby doo fan before, so I legit thought that it was just them changing the name.

[@Bopperann]

It's Mindy's self insert- a direct projection of inside her hollow shell where a soul _should_ be.

[@autobotstarscream765]

So is she a Heartless or a Nobody?

[@Bopperann]

@@autobotstarscream765 She's worse than ether. She'd steal a Disney princess and project herself so hard onto the poor victim that there would be nothing left but a name.

[@chillidan5696]

Sir, you've outdone yourself. I could really feel your struggle in this video. You have my respect

[@grandmagunsales2125]

Honestly just watch the Clayface episodes on that animated DC cartoon where he's posing as a school girl to help Harlequin and Ivy. That felt more like a high school mystery comedy than Velma did

[@mightbeapersonmaybe8379]

Someone else said it in this comment section but it feels like they took a poorly summarised list of what Harley Quinn did right and just figured that if we dial it up to 11 it will be better right?

[@moxiemaxie3543]

Velma's character is Daria but without the likeable traits. Animation is expensive and they wasted it on this and canceled the good projects

[@Kaylo-ren]

I knew you were gonna tear this apart lmao

[@palladiamorsdeus]

The thing about character arcs is that you need to have a reason to be invested in seeing the arc. You either need likable characters to go alongside the douche nozzle until their arc is through or you need a compelling reason like hints at what they could be like or the reason behind it. The show...sort of l tries that with Mindy's mom disappearing but it's so poorly done and doesn't even approach explaining why Velma is such a massive ass munch.

[@mandridhugh9555]

All this just makes me appreciate more how miraculous it is that we've got a decade long running show like Bob's Burgers, which is the entire polar opposite to a majority of what most mature shows are like these days

[@petergriffin-tu6ug]

yes

[@AxenfonKlatismrek]

If you want to watch something mature, go watch Star Trek, or James Bond with Connery, or those old cartoons from 50s-70s, or Princess Mononoke(You can tow down the violence and it wont change anything.), or those epic animated movies from Russia, these ones are more mature than most of adult cartoons that are trendy in today's west.

[@petergriffin-tu6ug]

@@AxenfonKlatismrek i alreADY watch cartoons like amphibai or puss 2 i releaze you was talking to the othe guy but. i might try but need some choices i havent heard of sme russian animted movies but would like to see espally since the only trendy adult cartoon i think was still good besides bobs burgers was inside job (AND ITS CANCLED)

[@silverseer573]

Something I haven't seen discussed very much-granted, all the other flaws are a lot more in-your-face-but Velma is meant to be some kind of prequel to the Mystery Gang coming together eventually. How in the world do these writers believe they can get out of that hole of mean-spirited nastiness they buried their show in?

[@zantanzuken]

y'know what? you're right. this show is written like a 15 year old that was told in writing class that they were 'creative'

[@asaknight321]

It's been a while since I seen the Possum. Pleasant surprise to see him again

[@PossumReviews]

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[@brockschannel3927]

Norville is Shaggy's canon first name, it's not something this show came with. No hate, just wanted to correct you.

[@VagabondRetro]

@@brockschannel3927 I think I heard that canonically he hates his real name because it sounds pretentious and dumb and he likes being called Shaggy, so it's still a cringe move any way you look at it.

[@AxenfonKlatismrek]

You know, when a drunk scot makes more mature content than the professional writers, you know you fcked up

[@smadcore]

Jesus Possum, pin your own comment. Nobody is gonna see it unless they scroll through 50 pages of people saying 'Norville is Shaggy's real name' over and over again.

[@alexyoung6533]

@Possum Reviews I would like to request a review on the backrooms which is a fictional creepypasta contains threads of unsettling images using internet aesthetics depicting busy images as unnatural empty, The Backrooms are an endless maze of office rooms which are entered by "[noclipping] out of reality in the wrong areas". As its popularity grew, internet users have expanded upon the original concept by creating different levels and entities which inhabit the Backrooms. Fanmade video games, collaborative fiction wikis and KZbin videos have also been inspired by the Backrooms. Another thing I would note that I've also come across with videos of guys wearing yellow suits running through mazes, slides aswell with other places such as the poolrooms. So if you or anyone for that matter who happens to be unfamiliar with this topic you could do some research and see what are you're thoughts on it.

[@Tinnituss]

Possum we need more of these reviews. I have watched all of your other reviews multiple times, and I think I can speak for everyone when I say we want more. Your reviews are creative, addicting, and fun to watch. Please man, make more.

[@crablord7934]

The ultra heavy lampshading just makes it feel like the writers were super insecure about their own writing.

[@commandorpirx912]

My "male gaze" sure didn't miss those massive puppies at 01:04.

[@Sewr_Rat]

What I really hate is that all these tropes of adult cartoons can actually be done well, just probably not by a big studio. There needs to be some substance and thought put into "adult jokes". I also think breaking the fourth wall can be funny if it's done very very sparingly and it's done in a "wink wink" kind of way. From what I've seen from this, they break the fourth wall with a sledgehammer.

[@tjenadonn6158]

As for proof that adult cartoons can be done well by entirely independent artists: Helluva Boss. I rest my goddamn case.

[@linhero797]

Look at the episode of Kirby Right Back at Ya where the episode basically amounts to the production crew complaining about their job. VAs Artists. Producers. Everyone is basically complaining but they are also doing it in a way that's actually clever. Mainly being that they dont just aay "Hey see, this is just like us. Isn't that funny?" They use the fact they have now made seveeal 4th wall breaking connections to use the show as a medium of both mocking thenselves and other production companies. It's an episode of essentially all 4th wall jokes but it does it well because it isnt the same set up and punch line.

[@detectivemememachin5011]

@@tjenadonn6158 Agreed but that show kinda got rocky with S1 EP 5. Moxxie got downgraded a lot

[@ChoomGuy]

In their case they didn't break the fourth wall, they fucking went through it with a bulldozer

[@xkidgey]

I don't think this is a cartoon for adults, it's a cartoon for "adults"

[@mrjevil6887]

I love how quite literally everybody is going to war with this textbook definition of a "modern reboot"

[@edge3220]

It's not a reboot. It's a spin-off.

[@TheTGOAC]

@@edge3220 It's not a spin-off, it's a fuck-off lol

[@justanothercommenterwithan9089]

@@TheTGOAC it's not a fuck-off it's a fuck-you

[@cutlerhanks926]

I wouldn't be surprised if Mindy was like this in real life.

[@strikermodel]

Jesus, the show body shames men, shames men for having emotions, and is next going to shame men for even having interest in anything. Like what on Earth. I wanna know how this show got the green light.

[@Red-jl1qr]

The animation and artstyle looks so interesting and neat, I'm genuinely so upset they wasted it on this

[@Dilo22]

You're kidding, right? It could hardly look more generic

[@Red-jl1qr]

@@Dilo22 I like how they use deep greans and purples and comic book style shading. Some scenes are really pretty to me.

[@OneEyeShadow]

@@Dilo22 I mean as far as "adult animation" is concerned, there's basically only 3 styles: "Looks like Family Guy", "Looks weirdly stiff and is probably unnecessarily gross" or "is literally Southpark".

[@thetechnocrat4979]

It looks awful. The only thing going for it is the lighting. Velma's character design looks like she is a pile of soft poo.

[@Red-jl1qr]

@@thetechnocrat4979 agree to disagree. Though I don't really like Daphne or "shaggy"s design all that much

[@trueneese8080]

Oh boy, nothing better than getting up at noon to a new Possum review. Great review man, thank you!

[@ladarynlockett]

I literally think an actual opossum is behind this channel every time I watch a new episode

[@tailfin6595]

So now both Saberspark and Dumbsville (or rather his pet troon) have done the thing described at 1:40. You’re moving up in the reviewer sector, Daddy Possum

[@blackAngelProductions]

Basically makes Scooby-Doo the exact antithesis of what it originally was just a wholesome story about people solving mysteries

[@AbrasiousProductions]

I'm so tired of wokeness I don't even feel like crying.. I just feel nothing...

[@josesosa3337]

These velma critiques are coming out faster than I can watch em all.

[@binaryghosts5131]

I think they were trying to do whatever seemed to work about the Harley Quinn animated show. However with that show you're taking a cast of villains which are already horrible and ridiculous people and so the shit they get up to tends to fit. With this they had to change so much about the premise and the characters that there is nothing really going on here in how it relates to "scooby doo" as a show or as these characters. It's like watching someone wanted to make a parody show out of scooby doo but the only info they have about the show is being told by someone who's only experience was form skimming a wikipedia article.

[@AnomalyINC]

You know, come to think of it, I think Shaggy's real name was actually Norville. Norville Rogers.

[@UnwantedGhost1]

*"This whole show is hypocrisy."* - A Possum (Dr Shaym)

[@syko2164]

Velma as a show makes Rick and Morty actually seem like a good show. I'm going back to my anime now.

[@somerandomguy203]

😂😂😂😂

[@detectivemememachin5011]

I'm going back to my Full Metal Alchemist and my Kids Next Door

[@metaknight115]

Rick and Morty seasons 1 and 2 were really good.

[@brianaguilar8283]

@@metaknight115 what happened to the following seasons?

[@metaknight115]

@@brianaguilar8283 Show writers forgot how to make comedy. Their jokes mainly consisted of "lets make fun of the people who enjoy our stuff, that sure is funny", and they character assassinated everyone in the show to become mini Ricks.

[@florinivan6907]

This show feels like someone watched Daria and said 'what would it be like if we cut out any wit made Daria a full blown jerk and tried to be as edgy as possible.'

[@jasontritt3243]

Everybody got it all wrong! She's being "EDGY AND BRAVE"

[@HeortirtheWoodwarden]

It's so weird that Norville confesses his crush literally in the first episode. I'd expect that's the kind of thing you build up to, right? The kind of thing you end off the season with or something.

[@HeortirtheWoodwarden]

@Sean Lewis Why? What's up with that

[@hebanker3372]

What man would have a crush in this Velma?

[@kong1800gaming]

Thank you for saving me the torture of having to check the show out for myself

[@daltooinewestwood6380]

At least one of those “Male Tears” mugshots were of a person who holds it up ironically whenever it happens in reverse

[@variant6478]

feel like this show originally had no connection to scooby doo, but someone realised that no one would have watched it, so they just plugged the scooby doo franchise in

[@gankgoat8334]

Venture bros had the sex, drugs, and violence. The only difference being it was actually well written.

[@SpideyfanX]

I'll take watching Dragonball Evolution 50 times over watching Velma even ONCE. At least DBE respected it's characters somewhat, like Grandpa Gohan. And ironically gave us the best version of Yamcha.

[@LuizPrower]

fun fact: Norville is Shaggy, as in, Norville is Shaggy's original name that was revealed in the 80s on a pup named scooby doo. 0(probably the only research on the original show the creators did)

[@LuizPrower]

also, writing this comment. it made me realize that its humor is trying to be current Rick and Morty, straight up. I think that is what it is. all the characters are mean and self refrential like Rick, or in shaggy's case, pathetic like morty (even if current morty has more balls). The problem is current Rick and Morty sucks, and it seems they didn't get the memo.

[@BaronBacon]

Even Dr. Shaym is out to slap Velma around. Awesome. :D

[@Ashkihyena]

“I find garbage” Well, you found some extreme garbage this go around. It’s awful.

[@acemarvel1564]

Garbage? That theres a full tank of radioactive sludge from hollywoods pipeline

[@garysuarez9614]

Oh possum...you do the work I refuse to do. Thank you.

[@themilkman5004]

Velma and Harley Quinn are basically two different types of satire. Satire that’s in on the joke and satire that isn’t on the joke. The Harley Quinn writers obviously love the DC universe and pull some very deep cuts for characters and concepts while doing its own the thing with those characters. Velma from the two episodes I’ve watched thinks they are on a joke and understand it, but they do not. It comes off as “Look how stupid this thing is after I take away its most defining traits”. The most painful thing about this for me is I really like the art style of Velma

[@GaigeStorm]

You know something is worse than trash when the possum doesn't even want to go through it

[@autobotstarscream765]

It's a dumpster fire, it burns anyone who touches it.

[@marcusreading3783]

There are two types of adult entertainment. The first type is only 'adult' because it is unsuitable for children. It is immature and mistakes sex and violence for maturity. The other type is the one thats ACTUALLY mature. The type that tackles serious topics, makes you think about things and teaches whoever watches it something new. Neither of these are really bad of course, you can do the former well enough that its entertaining. Whats interesting is that I have seen shows that use gratuitous sex and violence without it ever feeling to much or cringy. I think it might have to do with the way you do it. Velma is basically a show made entirely out of spite and hatred, it is entirely made to stick it to the people that its creator thinks are bad. Theres no love here, no actual creativity or passion. The nudity is done entirely for cheap laughs and to poke fun, not because theres any real passion or interest there. Even the most ridicules Ecchi Anime that leans entirely into the T&A has SOME reason for doing it, even if its just the love of beautiful women. Its the same with the violence. Its not really there to tell a story, its not there to look cool or evoke something meaningful, its meant to shock and be edgy with no understanding of how to do anything interesting with it. The thing is, even if we assume that Velma will have an arc to being a better person (we all know she wont, shes a self insert Mary Sue), you still need to have SOMETHING there to keep people invested. If the entire show is hot garbage, there is no reason to stick around. Then theres the fact that an unpleasant character can still be likeable if written well, which makes the arc both more believable and more satisfying by the end. If all you want to do is feed the protagonist into a wood chipper feet first, there is no reason to stick around on the off chance they will grow over the series.

[@autobotstarscream765]

"Mature" Scooby: Velma Mature Scooby: Mystery Incorporated and Zombie Island

[@poke2981]

Bro i hate how they just ip skinned it to get it popular quickly it's literally just the creator's hate boner but using Scooby Doo get views

[@kirby1225]

The show has no reason to be Scooby-Doo themed. It could've been an "original" show.

[@Curseius]

3:57 shaggys canotical name is norville if they arent calling him shaggy then this is supposed to be "prequel" bait but really i dont see it as that

[@cyberdance4578]

You made a good call, I saw other reviewers watch the rest of the currently available episodes and hoo boy it just gets worse with each new episode

[@hardygaming3454]

It just makes me appreciate the old scooby doo better