VESC vs ESC | Dual Motor | DIY Electric Skateboard | Upgrade

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A follow up to my last video…..replacing the ESC with a VESC. The ESC I got wasn’t able to handle all the power that the battery and motors were using and it burned out pretty quick.
This upgraded piece of hardware is going to allow me so many more options with making the board custom. Programing the VESC with my Amazon Fire 7 tablet was super easy with the Flipsky bluetooth module and all of the wires were plug and play.
The VX1 remote is an awesome little remote for basic builds. It doesn’t give you any digital read outs but has vibration sensors to alert you of low battery and things like that.
Super excited to share this with you, I hope you enjoy!
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[@Chris-hall9080]

You sir are amazing! I love your videos. No obnoxious music, perfect explanations, great workmanship, and an overall enjoyable watching experience! Keep up the great content! If possible, I’d love to see a build with quad motors!

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Wow, what a compliment! I can’t thank you enough for taking your time to say that. I will continue improving and making videos for you guys for sure! I’m in the process of getting parts for a single motor build and then a 4 motor build is next. A friend gifted me the perfect deck for that with some all wheel tires. It’s gonna be fun! Thank you again! 🙏🏼🙌🏼

[@TechWithIndy]

I had the same problem with the power cutting off when I put weight on the board. The cause of the problem was the antenna randomly shorting out. The end of the antenna wire comes with a tape which is part of the antenna. The tape contains metal foil inside it. The tape got pulled off exposing bare antenna wire. The antenna wire is a coax cable with an outer and inner wire. The exposed inner and outer wires would randomly short out. The fix is to remove 2cm of the outer sheath then remove 2cm of the braided wire. Use a pin to open the braid and cut it off. This will leave 2cm of the inner wire with a inner sheath around it exposed.

[@charlesb689]

0:16 I recognise this parking lot!! I used to ride my backfireboard there all the time years ago!

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

It’s a great spot to ride after hours!

[@chandrasuryanto1355]

in short, ITS YOUR BATTERY! well not exactly the battery but the BMS. your esc probably 100% works fine, after I watch the video Im 100% sure its your BMS, your battery wiring is correct and nothing wrong, and that is the main problem, your BMS discharge rate probably like 20A or 30A and you user 10s3p 30Q its like 45A continuous or 60A burst and what is that mean? if your battery discharge below your bms rate, there will be no problem but then the discharge exceed the rate like 40A the BMS will cut the power and yell "BRACE YOURSELF!". builder usually use direct discharge and BMS for charge only, so why your VESC works fine? probably, because you set the current limit to below the BMS discharge rate but there is nothing wrong with using VESC, worth it. my suggestion is check your bms wiring and use direct discharge or you better preared to "FLY" again.

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Thank you SO much for your input. I knew eventually someone would comment on the battery and I very much appreciate it. I will definitely take that advice and make some changes. That wasn’t a fun crash at all.

[@BJMolette]

What do you think the problem is for my board. The remote will disconnect after a few minutes of riding and I'll have to turn the board off and back on for it to work again. I'm not running a bms though and I'm using lipo batteries. Dual esc on hub motors.

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Tough to say. There’s a short somewhere it sounds like. I was having an issue with the board powering off completely and then I would have to push the switch to off then back on. But if it’s just the remote cutting out you could check out the connections for the remote. See if you can find any loose connections or something.

[@BJMolette]

@@ADayintheLifeofMr23 will do! Thanks 🙏🏾

[@BJMolette]

@@ADayintheLifeofMr23 dope video by the way!

[@fbiagent3399]

Hobbywing actually makes some really nice escs for Eskate.. I run 1 of there 12s systems and it's smooth af and definitely my favorite brand for escs

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Thanks so much for the suggestion! I have heard lots of good things about hobbywing. I will have to try that out on the next build. Thanks again!

[@TraxxasJr]

How do you buy the esc from them?

[@drumbri]

Excellent vid. Lots of info here. Brilliant putting led indicators on the battery itself for troubleshooting. Camera work and angle of your shots are perfect.

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Thank you again! Appreciate it

[@y.shrestha6936]

Pro tip. When you solder the XT connector on the battery, solder one terminal and leave the other one still attached to the old connector so you don't have possibility of a short.

[@gpromburgh]

I haven't yet watched your video to the end but from what I see so far it appears that the bms of the battery is at fault and not the controller but will continue watching till the end

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Thanks for the comment. I did not replace the BMS. Issue was resolved by changing the controller.

[@GiovanniBalestrieri]

The main difference between the two? Freedom. You can use it, you can contribute and even modify to match your needs

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Indeed. A lot more options indeed. Thanks for the comment. 🙌🏼

[@GiovanniBalestrieri]

@@ADayintheLifeofMr23 great content mate!

[@joaquinninoortega156]

So the main problem really is that you used BMS for discharge? Some DIY esk8 used BMS for charging only cause it would die or trip when you reach the maximum amps rated for that BMS. And i think you have to change your description :).

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Thanks for the comment. That’s what it does seem to be with the BMS. It was a cheaper BMS too so all the more reason to use it for charge only. Super appreciate you! Thanks again!

[@Brennen_Nisporic]

I was thinking exactly the same thing. Probably wasn’t your esc but likely your bms. For electric skateboards I’d always recommend bypassing the bms for discharge and setting voltage limits in the vesc software. I’ve had this exact same issue with two different boards. And when you plug in the charger the bms gets reset

[@azimalif266]

Can you run 1 motor with a dual motor controller?

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

I’m sure that it’s possible but I don’t know if it would affect the performance or possibly cause damage to the controller.

[@cramdangle]

Keep up the good work. I could see your channel getting bigger one day

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Can’t stop won’t stop! Thank you so much for saying that. It really means a lot to me. ✌🏼

[@locatejohn]

Informative video! Can you do a video on the configuration of the/your VESC when you have some time?

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Thanks a lot! Would be glad to do that. In the next week or 2 I’ll be building another board so I’ll make sure I do a special on programming the VESC as well! Thanks again!

[@pokulan]

To be honest the remote which comes with "ESC substitute" is much better :D I'm also going to replace this shit with Flipsky FSESC

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

I haven’t had the best luck with the flipsky vx1 remote. I’m on my second one and this one keeps disconnecting mid ride. Most of the time it happens when I stop at a light or stop sign and go to start again but a few times it’s happened while I’m riding and it scares the crap outta me when it does!

[@ianlee8753]

R there any cheaper Dual motor VESCs?

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

From what I understand, hobbywing makes a really good one. Lots of people have recommended I try them, and they are a less expensive option. Thanks for the comment.

[@baptisteoustric1849]

Hi, great video. I don’t find the link for connectors. Can you share it please ? Thanks

[@camdenbailey3185]

I'm using a esc for hoverboards motors, connecting everything will be easy. But will I have to charge the battery from the direct power line? Or could a adapt something on the esc?

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

The ESC doesn’t really handle charging. It’s just the speed controller. The charging is typically handled through the BMS on the battery itself. So you would have to wire a charger to the battery management system. Hope that helps!

[@antonioromero9145]

It’s cutting off due to overvolting, i had that problem with the esc then discovered you can select between 6s 8s or 10s by soldering the connections together I ran 12s on the 10s setting it handled it well until like 100 running hours later one of the capacitors popped due to user error

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Perhaps that could be why the ESC failed. But it was pre programmed for 10s batteries from where I got it from. There was no ability to program the ESC or alter the settings. In my case the ESC failed and lost power. Either way, it really sucked!

[@AmitKumar-jy8cg]

👏👏

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Thank you!

[@motiv311]

damn i just bought an esc with the same remote as that

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Perhaps I got a bad one. If they’re still selling it they can’t all be bad I guess. I know of a bunch of people using that ESC with no issues. With a vesc you get more control over settings but esc isn’t a bad choice at all

[@motiv311]

whats that giant heatsink for?

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

I used a voltage regulator for the led light strip I had. I wired it directly to the battery and the led can’t take that high of voltage so it just stepped it down to the appropriate voltage to power the led strip.

[@paulr3556]

Still strange to me that esk8 escs or vesc set for 8s 10s as different, not one that run 2-14s for example, rc cars and quad esc have auto cell voltage detection, and you program them too, aka the V or vedder or variable ESC VESC so limited for esk8? why? Why not call them a PESC? Programmable ESC?

[@aaryadeb893]

What ESC were you using earlier, do you have the link?

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

It was a generic ESC from mboards. I don’t have the link but I’m sure they are still selling a similar part. Thanks for the comment.

[@djwalker8447]

Was the cheap esc from eBay? I'm.looking at doing a DIY and allow budget to see if I like eskate

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Hello! I actually got it from a company called Mboards. I would not recommend buying anything from them. I don’t know too much about eBay ESC tho so I wouldn’t be able to offer much advice. In my experience, you do get what you pay for in this area though. Thanks for the comment!

[@xshitiz1531]

How to install flipsky vx1 receiver to esc or non VESC?

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Hello. It comes with some wires pre soldered on the recover for using with those type of devices. I removed them for my application but it is possible to use it. Thanks!

[@WORLD-OF-MERLIN]

What’s your take on Torque Boards motors? Taking a pole before I drop a couple thousand dollars on a setup. I’ve seen some bad reviews in terms of customer service and motor issues. Just wanted another take. I may buy from Bioboards.se but they are expensive...

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Wow those are some nice specs from them tho! I haven’t had any experience with torque boards directly. My 2 cents about all these types of companies.......there isn’t really going to be a customer service standard that you would normally find from say a corporate type of store. I used a different company when I first got all my parts and had a similar experience with bad customer service and faulty parts. My conclusion about the parts is that they are all manufactured by the same or similar companies overseas. The specific brands like torque board motors are just rebranded with their logo even tho they are just generic motors. I think what can happen with the motors failing can sometimes be user error. If the programming isn’t done correctly on the vesc you can overload the motors or cause them to burn out prematurely. I don’t know if that’s the case for all..... I’m sure some can be quality control as well. Don’t take my word for it but I believe all these motors with different brand names are exactly the same. Hopefully that was helpful and wasn’t just me babbling! Haha. Thanks for the comment. Let me know what you end up going with. Would love to see your setup when you get it!

[@WORLD-OF-MERLIN]

@@ADayintheLifeofMr23 When you replied back with nice specs; were you referring to Bioboards? I know they are definitely quality.

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

@@WORLD-OF-MERLIN yes, in reference to the bioboards. I hadn’t heard of them before but it really does look like quality boards! 50mph?!? 😳

[@TheDarkstar826]

HOW FAST CAN YOU GO?

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

This build will do about 28mph. I added cloud wheels not too long ago so I’m sure that changed it just a little bit. But 25-30ish mph. Thanks!

[@eBoard3R]

👌🏽👌🏽

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Your profile pic is super cool!

[@eBoard3R]

@@ADayintheLifeofMr23 Thank you, appreciate that bro. I'm likin your channel. I'm rebootin my Ytube soon. Check my IG ✊🏼

[@basnagel7881]

Is it still working?

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Bas Nagel it is and it’s working great! Thanks for watching

[@basnagel7881]

Great to hear so, good content mate!

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Thank you so much! Really appreciate you!

[@JohnJaggerJack]

you got a bum unit.

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Agreed! And almost got a bum shoulder cause of it too! 😂

[@sheanyquist]

Yooooo, this is just the video I needed! Thanks so much for sharing. I have a really cool project coming up and I have been having issues with met dual motor esc. Time to upgrade I guess. Check my channel if you love electric stuff!!!

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Thanks so much! Don't know why I didn't get this comment until just now, but glad I saw it. I will check out your channel for sure! Thanks again!

[@axemanesk8builder125]

For me the lingyi esc is the best than the flipsky.i bought 2 flipsky mini vesc and is not connecting.its a waste of money.👎

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

Thanks for the comment! There really aren’t that many resources to tell you about different VESCs or ESCs. Flipsky seems to be the most popular for DIYers but I agree there are better options. Thanks again!

[@axemanesk8builder125]

@@ADayintheLifeofMr23 i'm using lingyi esc for 1 year and i have no problem at all but when i upgraded to flipsky i have a problem already.it wasn't connecting using can bus connector.yeah i know its popular thats why i'm upgraded but it gives me a headache and its a waste of money.

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

@@axemanesk8builder125 unfortunately you aren’t alone in feeling that way. Before I bought this upgrade I did a lot of research and it was really split. Some people have had no issues to report and then others have had nothing but problems. I don’t ride it every day so it doesn’t get a ton a use but so far I’ve been lucky. 🤞🏼

[@axemanesk8builder125]

@@ADayintheLifeofMr23 yeah your lucky.but flipsky must have their duty to accomodate or replace the item but they don't have any action about my problem.tall they want is to earn money.

[@ADayintheLifeofMr23]

@@axemanesk8builder125 that’s frustrating. It definitely doesn’t help build loyalty from their customers either. 😩