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@lancelee3385 жыл бұрын
“The only thing I’ve seen Leffen do with Charizard is either up smash or die” Gold
@captainquickscope84145 жыл бұрын
Leffen's Zard is actually ass
@sethstoll85255 жыл бұрын
Captain Quickscope my man needs to train in the art of zard
@Piratekingg435 жыл бұрын
Charizard isn’t that good anyways, squirtle and ivysaur are the ones making pokemon trainer a good character
@AgentOrange5025 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's the point. He takes out zard when he is about to die so that he can start off with squirtle and take advantage of the invcinbility frames
@AgentOrange5025 жыл бұрын
Andy mostly just ivysaur tbh
@Carleritano4 жыл бұрын
i come from the future to say it wasn't ike who was broken, it was leo all this time.
@literallyasneeze21354 жыл бұрын
Ike was just fundamentally easy, this coming from an Ike main
@ManusMeridiem4 жыл бұрын
Well, I thought that was obvious
@Ghost-sk7yp3 жыл бұрын
@@literallyasneeze2135 I’m a Ike main as well and I can say he’s easy fundamentally
@parker69373 жыл бұрын
Yup
@O.G.1Love3 жыл бұрын
Foreal 🙏
@ryansvicee5 жыл бұрын
This game is already ten times more entertaining to watch than smash 4
@Yokai_Yuri5 жыл бұрын
This game is more entertaining than any other smash. Do not be afraid to say it. The only reason you think or see melee as good is because its loyal fanbase overhype the fuck out of it, attracting noobs and keeping the sheeps in check.
@bilalgill67225 жыл бұрын
Omega Storm nice b8 m8
@charliechuckles64945 жыл бұрын
@@Yokai_Yuri life as a zoomer
@austing.86825 жыл бұрын
@@Yokai_Yuri mate nah spacies matches are so fast there is nothing like it
@andrewrombach39385 жыл бұрын
Omega Storm this man is so salty
@dedik8SKB4 жыл бұрын
8:57 that platform literally came outta nowhere just so leo could take that stock
@sullivanish4 жыл бұрын
Stage awareness 1000
@LumboDumbo3 жыл бұрын
@@sullivanish more like reaction
@dragonplayz66062 жыл бұрын
Leffen choked so hard, could have been a 3-0 with squirtle, a true goat should be dominant and consistent and playing well, not opponent choking
@odstagent1070 Жыл бұрын
Or maybe by using a double jump, but who knows
@austinwirtz24345 жыл бұрын
I've gotta say Leffen is one of the most exciting players to watch. Some of the plays he makes are just insane. Hopefully he sticks with it, I think his ceiling is incredibly high in this game
@Aziz....5 жыл бұрын
Austin Wirtz and that's just his second tournament in ultimate
@alephbunchofnumbers5 жыл бұрын
He's dropping pt for inkling I think :'(
@whong095 жыл бұрын
@@alephbunchofnumbers is that true? As an inkling main that is *hype*
@alephbunchofnumbers5 жыл бұрын
@@whong09 actually on second thoughts I might have spoken too soon. But yeah so far it seems like he intends to main inkling with wolf as a secondary. He's going kinda tryhard with inkling on stream right now and has nothing but good things to say about her/him. But again, this is like day 1 post tourney, so he has yet to properly try some other characters that has been recommended to him (e.g. roy, pikachu?)
@jongharyu5 жыл бұрын
@@alephbunchofnumbers Prob Young Link. He did say that he's interested in him.
@grohlski86695 жыл бұрын
5:40 was so good
@dee65615 жыл бұрын
"That was genius."
@ryanmarcus31165 жыл бұрын
big leff turned into huge leff for a second
@pearlwhite56825 жыл бұрын
Ultra Instinct Leffen
@user-xl6ih5bo1h5 жыл бұрын
8:27〜
@Jiggonomics5 жыл бұрын
That was the most hype moment I've seen in the whole tournament tbh
@mle18725 жыл бұрын
It's pathetic how people are getting salty about Ike's Nair when MkLeo is one of the very few who's dominating with the character. Try actually spamming nair all the time like you claim and see how far you go.
@pesky21195 жыл бұрын
Ike's nair is a great spacing tool with nonexistent lag and huge hitbox, great combo tool that racks up quick damage, sets up to kill confirms like up air and bair. It does everything
@pizzashark70675 жыл бұрын
@@pesky2119 It's also unsafe on block w/out spacing, very whiff punishable, and slow to come out (thus losing most air-to-air interactions against fast aerials). Spacing aerials is pretty much all Ike can do in neutral, and there's clear and consistent counterplay. To say that it's an oppressive option, comparable to Smash 4 Sheik fair, or Brawl MK Tornado, would be absurd. MKLeo wins because he's applying his fundamentals - which are the best in the game - to a character that relies and thrives on fundamentals. At the top level of play, landing a nair as Ike requires you to outplay at some level.
@michaelcorser43505 жыл бұрын
@@pesky2119 N-air is also highly parryable. There is no doubt about when it's coming to get you because it starts so high. The fairly probable mindset of "he's gonna nair cuz that's the best" also makes it very susceptible to predictions that are good against it. Ike also had a HIGHLY gimpable recovery (notice I say gimpable, not short. There's a difference), making his options go get back on stage questionable against good players (see everytime Leffen dairs Ike as example 1). Ike looks really good and simple with MKLeo cuz he's really fucking good and makes everything looks smooth. Kinda like Tweek with Wario. Stop overreacting. Stop oversimplifying. Ur acting like the type of people that hate Fox in melee. Just get better, it is possible.
@CrimeShutter5 жыл бұрын
The reason people are salty is because the Ike player just naired and grabbed. Leffen was actually zoning, making reads, edgeguarding, etc. And no the "durrr why don't you just play Ike" isn't an excuse. It doesn't magically change his nair from having no lag, it's just an appeal to accomplishment fallacy. Basically Leffen had to work 3 times harder than MKLeo for the same results. Nair just did basically all the work for him, it was low IQ with little effort vs big IQ and lots of effort.
@colinmcnair55195 жыл бұрын
@@CrimeShutter fucking lol
@baronbad59075 жыл бұрын
*salem sweating in the crowd*
@lolcatjunior5 жыл бұрын
Leffen lost cause he wasn't a smash player.
@phillconklin3825 жыл бұрын
That's not sweat, that's the research spitting on the competition through his face.
@samuelventura46245 жыл бұрын
@Lost in Space or give him a few months and he'll be beating salem's ass. Stay mad.
@phillconklin3825 жыл бұрын
Ultimate is hardly for casuals. Otherwise Melee players would be destroying everyone, but all the gods of melee are ranked in the 50s and 60s.
@Yokai_Yuri5 жыл бұрын
@@lolcatjunior let that joke die kid. On a side note he got surprisingly far.
@OrangeKyle915 жыл бұрын
8:55 I appreciate the mention of the name of Ike's sword, Ragnell.
@biffyguybiffy62925 жыл бұрын
What’s this? A commentator being an actual FE fan and not just an awakening and fates dating simulator fan? Weird.
@dittom34265 жыл бұрын
Biffyguy Biffy Awakening and Fates are still FE games. Keep being salty lol.
@OrangeKyle915 жыл бұрын
@@dittom3426 They are. And they're not bad games. But they're wildly over-exposed compared to the rest of the series. Some of us prefer other entries in the series. Not because they're older, but because we love the characters. It's like if every single Pokémon thing for the last five years was about Kalos and Alola, except different versions of Kalos and Alola that had none of the other Pokémon from the other regions. A lot of Pokémon fans would be sick of Kalos and Alola. It's the same with Fire Emblem. It's reasonable to be tired seeing the same characters over and over.
@dittom34265 жыл бұрын
OrangeKyle91 That’s more understandable. As a Pokemon, we have the opposite problem, where everything is catered to the original games and the newer ones get crap.
@OrangeKyle915 жыл бұрын
@@dittom3426 Yeah, now that I think of it, that's a more accurate comparison. Awakening and Fates are the Pokémon Gen 1 of Fire Emblem in terms of over-exposure.
@danielmartinez57215 жыл бұрын
10:21 I got an ad right when MKLeo threw his up-air but right before I could tell if it connected or if he gave Leffen enough time to escape with down-b and they put me through so much suspense my heart was about to explode 😭
@JawshIsLive5 жыл бұрын
I was so mad they did that
@supersaiyankrillin12375 жыл бұрын
I got an ad too lol
@HandsomeBaldManMovieReviews5 жыл бұрын
Same here
@angrypepe76155 жыл бұрын
To be continued
@AMV_KINGDOM_mv5 жыл бұрын
Ne aswell
@BigZach775 жыл бұрын
Chillindude just subbed to MKLeo.
@skadi7535 жыл бұрын
Dude that's old beef, he and chillin r cool now. LeffvSalem's the hot topic rn lol
@skadi7535 жыл бұрын
@Jericho Perez salem got salty at leff for calling snake sucko. Then he gets a PhD for being an a hole
@SamuelSamuelSamuel5 жыл бұрын
@Jericho Perez Search up years of research.
@JoeDan545 жыл бұрын
@@skadi753 Pretty sure OP was joking
@skadi7535 жыл бұрын
@@JoeDan54 ya ik, but im just saying the joke's kinda old but whatever.
@Aname5505 жыл бұрын
Y'all saying ike is lame and braindead, go ahead and take him to quickplay, start spamming nairs, see how far that gets you. Drop GSP faster than Zimbabwe's economy
@baneofthebread5 жыл бұрын
That flex on Zimbabwe's economy was not necessary
@zetton13745 жыл бұрын
Yeah I don't play Ike but every time someone spams nairs with Ike I get the punish, so to see leffen unable to punish it at all makes me think with proper spacing it's actually really good. Definitely not brain dead otherwise he'd be getting punished for it.
@pearlwhite56825 жыл бұрын
That was unnecessary lol
@matthewtam76455 жыл бұрын
A Name Yeah to a lot of people it just looks like pros are spamming it, when really they just use it more than other moves since it is a good combo starter. They use it a lot, but not so much that it’s too predictable and punishable.
@jacoryarnett73475 жыл бұрын
I seeing 4 Ikes online today in quickplay spamming the same short hop Nair it is soo braindead for a character that have the safest move with less landing lag.
@AmosdollMusic5 жыл бұрын
amazing plays from both players! Just interesting that Leo never got a chance to punish any of those Ivysaur's ledge regrabs in this match.
@chillwithxavier64845 жыл бұрын
Amosdoll Music hi I love your channel
@Robert-qe8ny3 жыл бұрын
Well he punished it once
@Cruzfire103 жыл бұрын
Never thought I’d see you here. Love your content dude.
@jesusteran81103 жыл бұрын
I think he tried to but I also think Leffen was trying to bait him in with it.
@Noba466882 жыл бұрын
@@jesusteran8110 ig so. Impressive that he was so good even back then, and with Ike.
@leafy2797 Жыл бұрын
This video showed up in recommendations and i remember how everyone used to say Ike’s nair was broken, he was carried, etc etc yet nobody could achieve the same results, Leo’s gameplay combined with his game knowledge/understanding makes him who he is!
@dee65615 жыл бұрын
Shite. Was hype for the first few games, but Leffen lost it or Leo downloaded. Regardless, I HOPE Leffen continues to play Ultimate. He showed what he could do, and I hope he continues to do just that.
@G.dot_5 жыл бұрын
DeeCee 51 leffen is still in the tournament.....
@stairfall123456789005 жыл бұрын
@@G.dot_ he ded
@HatsuneInku5 жыл бұрын
He got sent to loser's, he can still win lol
@moomba_5 жыл бұрын
Nope he's very out. He lost too Yeti's Megaman @@HatsuneInku
@TitanKingInk5 жыл бұрын
@@HatsuneInku he lost in losers aswell
@varunagajoashan10544 жыл бұрын
This tourney will always be memorable for me as the first big ultimate major and being the first tourney i got into as a smash fan
@remochovsky10562 жыл бұрын
Still a fan all these years later?
@varunagajoashan10542 жыл бұрын
@@remochovsky1056 yep and always will be
@emmbeesea5 жыл бұрын
Big Leff putting up a good fight against one of the top seeds.
@robbiesarkioglu56235 жыл бұрын
Fuk leffen..
@HatsuneInku5 жыл бұрын
@@robbiesarkioglu5623 fuk you
@AntiSVH5 жыл бұрын
Emm Bee Sea Sad thing is, that wasn’t even Leos trump card character. He’s hiding a terrifying main out there
@robbiesarkioglu56235 жыл бұрын
@@HatsuneInku Fuk u 2. Leffen is a scumbag
@TheCactuar1245 жыл бұрын
@@robbiesarkioglu5623 Keep hating, maybe someday someone will listen to you
@rastabananaman2065 жыл бұрын
MkLeo feels like a final boss
@lawlisbetterthanyou6285 жыл бұрын
Rasta BananaMan that’s zero
@angelmendez-rivera3515 жыл бұрын
Lowell Bevan Nah not anymore. ZeRo does not play this game as competitively as he did Smash 4
@lawlisbetterthanyou6285 жыл бұрын
Angel Mendez-Rivera true but if you’ve seen zero vs Mkleo in ultimate zero won
@SydneySininen5 жыл бұрын
@@angelmendez-rivera351 ZeRo's the hidden boss you get to after you 100% complete the rest of the game
@bryangaldamez7905 жыл бұрын
Zero retired cause he knew he was going to be dethroned
@KeleuHerdley5 жыл бұрын
Hey, to anyone complaining about Ike, don’t mistake “broken” for viable. I was an Ike main since Brawl and through smash 4. He’s my secondary now since Inkling made it in(my #2 most wanted character for Smash). When I mained Ike, I was well aware he was mid-low tier at best in previous games, but still had potential. He’s actually a good character now which makes me happy since my favorite FE lord. Even being good, he still has flaws: linear/exploitable recovery(even though it’s a solid recovery, it is predictable), weight(a lot of characters can combo him will since he doesn’t have a good escape move and weighs a lot), and lack of ability to handle projectiles well(seriously, how much did Leffen used razor leaf?). Ike is really good in this game, but he deserves to be. He was considered low/mid tier in the past, and dedicated Ike players can now have a taste of what it’s like to be viable. Even though I’d win locals with Ike in smash 4, it wasn’t brain dead. May I even add, it still isn’t brain dead.
@Stathio5 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Everyone complaining about him being "broken" and stuff, like... then why isn't he dominating the scene? Why isn't he Brawl Meta Knighting it? Good Ike players are just good. It's that simple. They know how to play the fundamentals well. They read well. They have great instincts. Ike is easily exploitable, but their skills are honed. Get over it. Anyone saying he's "broken" or "braindead" is literally just making excuses, and they know it- and that's exactly why they're getting so salty from their own tears too much to realise they just need to get better at the game. Only scrubs and frustrated middle of the road players complain about this kind of stuff in the first place. Skilled players just deal with it and improve. If they get beaten, they take the beating and learn from it. They don't whine. I believe the phrase is... get good?
@seb12324 жыл бұрын
Who did you first want to be put in the game, before Inkling?
@KeleuHerdley4 жыл бұрын
Sebastien Lessore at the time, I wanted Azura from FE: Fates, since she was one of the few Fire Emblem characters with unique moveset potential. She’s a mythical songstress who wields a lance, and she has a lot of similar qualities to that of a water bender. I think she was a better pick than Corrin imo. At this point though, I’m kinda done with FE characters for this game. Now I kinda just want more games represented in smash.
@jean-lucfagnan77985 жыл бұрын
People can say what they want about Leo, but that combo off of dair at 8:59 was clean
@HalXV5 жыл бұрын
That's the thing about MKLeo, and the main reason of he being my favorite player, he learns so damn fast, you can see this in almost every match up, the first couple of rounds he does okayish, and the he obliterates his opponents, he's a real prodigy, he learns patterns so fast and applies corrections on the go.
@machduel5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of Zero's Diddy in sm4sh, except Zero would slow down as he learned and win off conditioning whereas Leo goes from 0-100 and obliterates his opponents.
@wallapee5 жыл бұрын
yeah he learns how to spam aerials really well. such a hard thing to do. 300 IQ play right there
@HalXV5 жыл бұрын
@@wallapee if he only spammed aereals he wouldn't be the number one player in the world hahahaha, why don't you just "spam aerials" like him and become the number one player in the world? You said it yourself is very easy, any person could do it.
@wallapee5 жыл бұрын
@@HalXV Aerials*, why can nobody spell? And no thanks, I have a real job and I don't like this game enough to play it for more than an hour at a time. It's slow and incredibly repetitive. Sakurai would never make a smash game that can be played at a truly high competitive level on purpose, hence why melee is the only smash game that is fun to watch. He isn't the best player in the world either, game hasn't been out for long and lots of people haven't dedicated themselves to playing it. Leo has no other choice.
@HalXV5 жыл бұрын
@@wallapee sure
@gerardoaeschlimann99995 жыл бұрын
6:30 my man in the back doing the dab
@Blue-jn1ph5 жыл бұрын
My man in the back doing the dab and shit
@Adrey5 жыл бұрын
"doing the dab" oh nonnoonnnon ohhh nooooo
@Mari-td7ny5 жыл бұрын
Cringe
@a-aron41485 жыл бұрын
MC Lion was Ike - and well, Leafy was Pokémon trainer.
@dominikdeciga43075 жыл бұрын
@@Blue-jn1ph confirmed wavy
@SuperNero7915 жыл бұрын
The viewers and the crowd came alive this set. It was pure hype
@Fishming55 жыл бұрын
Leffen with the "GALAXY BRAIN"
@joshuameadows31665 жыл бұрын
Yes, covering your recovery with projectiles is galaxy brain now. The future is now, old man.
@CarlosMartinez-xs2bn5 жыл бұрын
Got him a little hyped up
@yourconscience80184 жыл бұрын
These commentators were pretty much climbing over each other to ride leffen. The amount of bias in this match is unreal.
@freetrader00005 жыл бұрын
The Ike player is also playing well. He short hopped over low tilt attacks, behind Ivysaurs whips, he blocked stuff well, recovered nicely, etc. It was a fun game to watch.
@viktorsalazar11915 жыл бұрын
"The ike player" I can tell you're either a melee player or new
@someguy4014 жыл бұрын
“The Ike player” Dude its Mkleo...
@cananada71435 жыл бұрын
The entire stream chat during this was spamming “YO DID HE JUST SLOWLY WALK UP AND NAIR”
@WypsotorNyloff5 жыл бұрын
How beautiful that the 7th best penguin could make it this far
@jongharyu5 жыл бұрын
7th best penguin turned into one of the best penguins lol.
@erikhernandez36085 жыл бұрын
He's a toadally awesome penguin
@NickNick-xv6wv3 жыл бұрын
looking back on it. there really was nothing special about leo's ike, rather he was just consistently doing the right thing in situations
@CrumbsLamond Жыл бұрын
Ike's nair is such a consistent kill confirm. Comobing into up air at such high percents is so powerful
@daray215 жыл бұрын
I don't get why people are complaining about ike's neutral air hitbox when ivysaur has a giant down air and up air. They're both good characters
@tylertanner58535 жыл бұрын
People just to like to claim Ike does nothing but Nair while every other character has an attack that they spam in neutral. Leffen just spams razor leaf in neutral, gets punished for it and leo is the spammer.
@Twerk945 жыл бұрын
His range is way too big and he has huge hit boxes for his speed. Ivysaur is slow AF
@MC-oy8mh5 жыл бұрын
You’re joking, right? Ike’s neutral air covers his entire body and over prioritizes any move, and leads directly into kill moves. Everyone loves defending these overpowered Fire Emblem characters with their disjointed hit boxes and ridiculous priority.
@Keurgui15 жыл бұрын
Ike's nair is pretty dumb dude It's too make up for his lack of speed overall
@zatchiel5 жыл бұрын
Ivy's d-air and u-air are NOT comparable to Ike's n-air at all LOL. I say this as an Ike main. It's a pretty dumb move.
@ZDY666665 жыл бұрын
Dayum, that was like an anime fight choreography. Leo really picked up on that last match too. You could see his reaction times grow over the set especially that last match, he was getting that adrenaline rush for sure.
@Mystravian5 жыл бұрын
Man Leffen used to be good enough to touch Leo. Now he whines about bowser for 2 hours.
@nimroddafny71255 жыл бұрын
This comment section has more salt than the Dead Sea.
@strings4915 жыл бұрын
Indeed, it seems they've lost to a ton of Ike players.
@phillconklin3825 жыл бұрын
I'm so proud of both dudes, that had me on the edge of my seat!
@restfulsounds39925 жыл бұрын
I give respect to leo... he is the only guy who doesn't spam nair. He uses his bairs and dairs very effectively. Everyone says that ike is his nair, but mkleo shows that ike is more than just nair all the time. Please quit blaming leo's win on "ikes nair" because leo didn't win just because ike is a good character. Leo won due to his smarts and skill. Leffen is a very good player and there is no way you could win by just simply spamming nair. Spamming nair isn't as good as you think it is lol.
@dasloco1215 жыл бұрын
As an Ike main (and nowhere near as good as these guys obviously), I tend to rarely use nair just because of the notion that it's become godlike. People like to account for it when they play you and it can lose its usefulness. You need to adapt, and Leo does that well.
@SomeRandomGuy-us1yb5 жыл бұрын
@@dasloco121 I'm just shit at the game and can't use nair in battle effectively
@discountfunnyman5 жыл бұрын
People complaining about Ike's nair are mostly poor players that don't understand how to punish it
@SamuelSamuelSamuel5 жыл бұрын
Now imagine Leffen vs Salem in losers.
@fallenchao5 жыл бұрын
Call the cops ;)
@dingo96965 жыл бұрын
salem aint in losers tho is he?
@TheTdbj5 жыл бұрын
He was. Salem lost to Captain Zack
@HatsuneInku5 жыл бұрын
@@TheTdbj HA! Shoulda been practicing instead of researching melee
@meem93095 жыл бұрын
@@HatsuneInku he still placed higher than leffen
@Godlovesugly.5 жыл бұрын
To everyone crying about Leo’s nair, Why can’t anybody else just pick up Ike and nair their way to top 8 if it’s that easy???
@dez00025 жыл бұрын
Because people have dignity
@elote7515 жыл бұрын
@@dez0002 really? Is that your best answer?
@adang18275 жыл бұрын
@@dez0002 look I wanted Leffen to win but MKLEO outplayed him
@fallenchao5 жыл бұрын
I agree it takes skill to play ike ;)
@pearlwhite56825 жыл бұрын
Because people want to use characters that require skill unlike that brain dead garbage.
@liamlocklear40525 жыл бұрын
It's a good day to be an Ike main
@akamarux755 жыл бұрын
Ryo will be proud
@jacoryarnett73475 жыл бұрын
Its a good day to be a braindead ike main.
@tylertanner58535 жыл бұрын
@@jacoryarnett7347 name one character that doesn't spam an attack in neutral. Don't worry, I'll wait.
@Jonathan-A.C.5 жыл бұрын
Tyler Tanner Little Mac
@Jonathan-A.C.5 жыл бұрын
Besides, it’s about the amount of active frames, (or invincibility frames in some cases), the move has, and if it can immediately combo into other shit. His Nair is wackdaddy
@goochiewarrior47485 жыл бұрын
This was the greatest thing to watch. This smash game really is for sure what the community needs. #oneunit
@dariusg70445 жыл бұрын
if IKE's Nair is broken why aren't you in the tournament playing with him rn...
@nimroddafny71255 жыл бұрын
Because -people won't get the same results with Ike when compared to their current main and say that they don't need to use braindead and/or broken characters and/or moves as an excuse despite being terrible with their current main- some people actually have skill and don't need to use braindead and broken characters.
@doubled64905 жыл бұрын
@@nimroddafny7125 so instead of getting thousands of dollars in tournament money you just say "I am too good to enter"? Nice.
@nimroddafny71255 жыл бұрын
Either I don't understand this joke or you didn't understand my joke.
@tinyt.w.i.m72915 жыл бұрын
Nimrod Dafny the shots... Have been fired.
@drewsnider73525 жыл бұрын
"why not play meta knight" "Why not bayo " "Why not ike" The money comes from this game being fun to watch The meta centralizing around one character kills the game Then the money stops because the game is dead
@jaylasisk39535 жыл бұрын
Gonna be real Max has really upped his commentary over the years. Mad respect man.
@alexandervolgzangief67595 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love Ike's moves in Ultimate.
@BbotTV5 жыл бұрын
Damn leffen couldve had this if he didnt swap ivy so much, I think all the stocks he lost were ivy
@stairfall123456789005 жыл бұрын
Yea but I don't think he has much experience with skilled Ikes. And MkLeo is just MkLeo.
@mute83755 жыл бұрын
Problem is ivy is the best of the three and if you can’t get much going then it’ll slowly crumble. Once MkLeo downloaded ivy it was all over.
@xStealthPigeon5 жыл бұрын
He switched to ivy cause squirtle doesnt have good kill options and charizard is very unsafe. Ivy has many good kill options and zoning plus nair is preety good. But ike nair lmao
@geran44735 жыл бұрын
@@xStealthPigeon Most of the times he got a kill was when he got leo off stage with squirtle and then switched to ivy to finish the edgeguard. But most of the times he switched to ivy in neutral he just got blown up.
@emissarygw22645 жыл бұрын
@@xStealthPigeon Leff is used to swapping to ivy past 40% and then charizard above 100%, but in this case his ivy was getting out-zoned/comboed by Ike and he had a lot better success with Squirtle getting the % up because he's faster, smaller hitbox, and lighter making it harder to combo.
@Wizard_Lizard_5 жыл бұрын
The fact that some people in the comments actually think that Ultimate Ike is anywhere close to being on par with Brawl Meta Knight due to one lousy move is just sad...
@TheThugnificant5 жыл бұрын
Leo had to teach Leffen some respect. He's looking at the king in his face.
@arbo16155 жыл бұрын
8:01 did i just get gnomed?
@EzraTheChannel5 жыл бұрын
MKLeo's Ike over here lookin like Ken's Marth in the old days
@fullduck974 жыл бұрын
I come back to this match whenever I watch a video of Leffen being cocky and want to see him get destroyed
@swank85083 жыл бұрын
this is a pretty bad video to go to then, look at m2k's 6-0 vs leffen. leffen said he was two levels above m2k in mid 2015 (when leffen was best in the world), then mew2king destroyed him
@Testify0872 жыл бұрын
Back when we thought Ike was top tier
@dyllpickleproduces95883 жыл бұрын
Seeing Leffen lose does bring a smile to my face.
@Daniel-uy1sv3 жыл бұрын
why?
@ResurgentRaven2 жыл бұрын
@@Daniel-uy1sv Probably because of the antics that surround Leffen. He's a good smash player, but his personality leaves a lot to be deserved. But you won't see that here.
@dewdesi11 ай бұрын
Didn't even know leffen played ultimate at all lol that's crazy
@neverknowsbest.8 ай бұрын
All the pro melee players did when it first dropped. M2K leffen armada mango leffen etc
@starchild6646 Жыл бұрын
OGs remember MKleo’s IKE. Who watches this in 2023 ?
@neverknowsbest. Жыл бұрын
Me because I miss leffen playing ultimate
@starchild6646 Жыл бұрын
@@neverknowsbest. Leffen never dissapoints
@pearlwhite56825 жыл бұрын
Who would win? A very unique and diverse character that takes a lot of skill and practice. Or One nairing boi
@fallenchao5 жыл бұрын
Nairing boi ;)
@pearlwhite56825 жыл бұрын
@@fallenchao Correct!
@AlexRivera-hy9sm5 жыл бұрын
Leffen gave MK a hell of a run that's for sure, closer than anyone before him.
@dez00025 жыл бұрын
Leffen needs to learn how to use charizard better
@fallenchao5 жыл бұрын
@@dez0002 leffen will get better with time 👍
@BananabroJr5 жыл бұрын
I prefer the radiant dawn version but path of radiance is cool too
@DREAMSQU33ZE5 жыл бұрын
This is the most entertaining match I’ve watched in Ultimate so far.
@Eptic02275 жыл бұрын
Leffen took out Seagull Joe and Wadi and then put up a close fight against #2 seed and arguably the best player in the game.. once again, proving the horrible seeding wrong. Pls no more garbage seeding give him the bracket he deserves from now on.
@Yokai_Yuri5 жыл бұрын
You mean the easy bracket? So he can make it to finals avoiding all threats and people claim he is good? Lol the desperation is strong within you.
@Eptic02275 жыл бұрын
@@Yokai_Yuri do you understand how seeding works?.. top level players shouldn't play each other at such an early round. Did you watch MkLeos other games? Leffen was easily his toughest opponent on his way to top 8.
@John.Banana.5 жыл бұрын
Wadi plays predictable so...
@japanrocksgousa5 жыл бұрын
@@John.Banana. then you beat him
@axeg5 жыл бұрын
@@Eptic0227 thing is, Leffen isn't a top player in this game..
@FairPlayClubChads Жыл бұрын
I grew up with smash 4 so when this ike pro main is "fighting for smash 4 honor" i want to thank him
@donkeykong35084 жыл бұрын
Anyone remember when Ike was 'top three'?
@Ewan-xw3er4 жыл бұрын
Whoever the best player in the world plays is the best character in the game apparently
@lil-tater4 жыл бұрын
Why does the audience keep chanting USA? Literally neither of them are American
@likiman19964 жыл бұрын
They are chanting TSM
@cobrax2365 жыл бұрын
And people always said Ike was a bad and predictable character! :D
@172rkgk3 жыл бұрын
@Advance Tubberson l8 but wouldn't that just make Leffen a trash player? It's a fact that Ike's nair is easily whiff punishable, any good player should be able to read the matchup and force the Ike to shift strategies or lose. (Or maybe Leffen is an amazing player and MKLeo is just insane with any character he dedicates his time to, and this is bad logic)
@griffoncs64315 жыл бұрын
Man if Charizard gets a couple buffs to his neutral, Pokemon trainer is gunna be so amazing. And it's already such a fun character to watch. Imagine if the Charizard came out for more than just up smash! I want to see some sick combos like Leffens amazing edge guards with Squirtle/Ivy in this set!
@pesky21195 жыл бұрын
Ike isn't braindead and MKleo is just a genuinely amazing player. That nair is super busted though. I mean it's a spacing tool, combo tool and kill setup tool all in one move
@krillissue5 жыл бұрын
really though. I get why people are salty at sword characters as they are in ultimate, but it's so weird why they'd use that argument when talking about Ike. Arguably the easiest swordie to counterplay even with a good nair.
@wallapee5 жыл бұрын
mkleo is not amazing. he uses cheesy ass characters and abuses them. if he was so amazing, he'd use fuckin wii fit trainer or somebody actually challenging to do well with. and all these people saying "ike so easy to counter" yeah, playing at your 500k rank on a laggy ass internet connection. it's nothing like playing live.
@pesky21195 жыл бұрын
@@wallapee From how I look at it, both of you are wrong.
@wallapee5 жыл бұрын
@@frostyamay because I don't care to add some dumbass picture like a shark to my profile that is some denouncement on me? What a fucking stupid thing to say. Nice failed attempt at making a gaming channel, loser.
@pesky21195 жыл бұрын
@@frostyamay Hypocrite much?
@user-dg7wh6lp5v5 жыл бұрын
やっぱ上手い人はほんとに上手いんだなって思いました………すごく見応えのあるバトルですね👍👍👍
@tayoamusan47375 жыл бұрын
As you can see clearly it is mkleo's character that carried his totally not like he is just the best player in the world
@doomsday84994 жыл бұрын
Yeetus Thatfeetus bruh
@doomsday84994 жыл бұрын
Ohhhhh I get the joke now
@mikemccranie10925 жыл бұрын
Even though leffen got knocked out, I’m so proud of him and his run... my god he’s talented.
@radhadman35684 жыл бұрын
interesting how melee players can't really reach top rankings of ultimate and vice versa. Very different games, I wanna say that melee requires fast reaction-time whereas ultimate requires really hard reads on your opponent
@ChiodosBlowsDogs3 жыл бұрын
Leffen definitely could have been in Ultimate if he kept playing but, he just didn't really want to. And, I think Leo could be a top 10 player in melee if that's what he decided to put his mind to, he's just too fucking good. Taking time to practice and learn melee is all he would have to do, he's already got that top player brain which, is the harder thing to learn of the 2.
@abrahamlincoln79074 жыл бұрын
5:08 “Looks like Ivesaur is the weaker of the three!” Everyone now:🤦♂️🤦🤦♀️
@goldpower28784 жыл бұрын
@@AdamMarino101 squirtle is broken
@winschlati80335 жыл бұрын
I seriously think that MKLeo is closest to being the best Smash Ultimate player.
@MeinLink Жыл бұрын
Good call, turns out you were right
@neyun4 жыл бұрын
bruh I still watch this set to this day
@CaptainKnee5 жыл бұрын
You can feel this match same like watching Light vs Nike or Samsora vs Nike
@santv61485 жыл бұрын
Something that i love of ssbu is that literally everyone is here including the best players from past games due to the Aumented complexity and speed
@nicohfdc5 жыл бұрын
Leffens Squirtle is absolutely insane
@BillyBob-tr5cv5 жыл бұрын
Seeing an Ike player makes me happy
@Riversofash5 жыл бұрын
Leffen got naired
@quantum66375 жыл бұрын
Aether Only because of MKLeo’s near flawless spacing.
@OscarMartinez-xi7on5 жыл бұрын
8:35 was the biggest brain play ever. Leffen's applications of Squirtles water gun are amazing.
@John.Banana.5 жыл бұрын
I see nobody talking about leo's parry or his amazing work on recovery or punish ivysaur
@Thecreeperboombox5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Ultimate for bringing smash 4 players to respect melee players and melee players to respect smash 4 players for the most part
@doctorfate64145 жыл бұрын
You'd think he'd learn to not summon Ivysaur. Everytime he used it he kept loosing.
@ameyadani12675 жыл бұрын
this was so hype live
@Musukoo5 жыл бұрын
making ike mains proud thanks leo
@tinyt.w.i.m72915 жыл бұрын
uh burger what’s sad is we used to be humble lol
@colt45314 жыл бұрын
its matches like this that make you wanna fly out to Genesis and watch them with the crowd
@GamingSurge073 жыл бұрын
Damn two years already oh how Ike was good
@Thrallking5 жыл бұрын
Leffen that second stock in game 2 was fucking cheeky as shit.
@theexaltedlt82225 жыл бұрын
This Ike salt is delicious. Let's go MKLEO
@jacewhite90965 жыл бұрын
Danny Freeman why does Leo only play sword characters
@theexaltedlt82225 жыл бұрын
@@CaptainKnee You just mad cause Fatality got fucking destroyed.
@theexaltedlt82225 жыл бұрын
@@jacewhite9096 because he likes to play sword characters?
@ne23594 жыл бұрын
Mkleo looks pretty good. He could probably be best in the world
@bigboy22175 жыл бұрын
Let me explain to the peanut gallery why Ike’s nair is good. It’s less to do with the nair and more to do with this games jump and shield mechanics. Ike’s nair is a great combo starter obviously, so it’s a move you’ll try to land often. It’s biggest weakness is the awkward angle of the sword swing that leaves you open without a front facing hitbox for a decent wind up. But once the hitbox is actually out it covers a ton of space all through the area below Ike, even behind him. So if you are caught below it not ready to shield you eat it. Now in a game like smash 4 where FH was a lot slower, this move would be easy to deal with. But you ant react to Ike full hopping fast enough to proactively beat the move out, because he reached the peak of the FH too fast and starts the move early. You also can’t easily get under him if the Ike isn’t stupid, running shield in this game is pretty damn bad. You can’t do it out of dash meaning you are vulnerable to a large hitbox like that while remaining mobile. And since it hit behind crossing him up on reaction won’t work either. Hard to set yourself up to get under his FH and shield so you can then parry close enough to punish in a meaningful way. And just guessing when he’ll leave the ground is a commitment you look like an idiot for going for frequently. That’s why leff was trying to spam side b as ivy, he’s trying to not contest nair at all by remaining outside the umbrella of his jump, much like falco does to dodge FH stuff in melee, lasering outside to get a set up. Leo just takes space casually not biting until leff is cornered in that case. Make no mistake Ike’s nair is busted. Fortunately so are like, a ton of other things in ultimate. Doubt he’s the best in the game or anything, but his nair is good. It’s amazing. You CAN build a neutral game out of fishing for it. So can y’all stop arguing that Ike’s nair isn’t that great to save Leo’s pride? We all know he’s amazing, he would win events without Ike, he’s probably better than leffen. But pointing out his nair is amazing isn’t controversial. It’s just the truth.
@ashell5435 жыл бұрын
Big Audos gawd I wish I could up vote this more and pin it, it's so the truth
@andreayton19935 жыл бұрын
Biggest takeaway to learn from Leo is to use Ike’s upB as little as possible to get back
@GessekaiMoon3 жыл бұрын
Looking backing on this, it's kinda ridiculous Leo was able to beat Leffen's PT with Ike. lol
@KingGamma245 жыл бұрын
Ok wow I have never felt the urge to watch a match again but here we go THANKS LEFFEN
@DarkThunderBud5 жыл бұрын
I'm so proud of Leffen, holy shit these matches were intense
@RobertAntonyJameson5 жыл бұрын
Amazing! Some more practice on the PT secondaries and Leffen will be DANGEROUS for everyone. 🎈
@EphYxRS5 жыл бұрын
wow there was a LOT of people there
@javier.mp45 жыл бұрын
I don’t really understand why he kept switching to Ivysaur when he kept being absolutely demolished for those razor leafs. Squirtle was great for early damage and he seemed to be okay with finishing off with the Charizard.
@MartinEscamilla19935 жыл бұрын
Leo needs to improve that eruption kill asap!
@christopherburton36815 жыл бұрын
MKLeo seems like such an un-fun person to play with because how he uses his Aerials with Ike. Leffen on the other hand is a super exciting player
@mamidijoqueno78615 жыл бұрын
I ain't no Ike main, but I am so happy that MK Leo won just cause the commentators werw so annoyingly fangirling at Leffen instead of saying something good of Leo. I know he had to Nair a basically everytime, but without Ike's Nair he's nothing but garbage. Bunch of crybabies complaining bout everyting. They are both very good players with very good characters. I'm just a Wolf main though.
@hido...5 жыл бұрын
because MKLeo was boring to watch
@VictorMartinez-lg3dx5 жыл бұрын
Watching leffen play is so fucking exciting, please keep playing. So good
@Senketsu695 жыл бұрын
Leffen is amazing but everyone dickrides him so hard. You guys gotta accept that Leo is better or at least played better in these matches.
@austinpowers36595 жыл бұрын
Leo had amazing movement around the razor leaf
@boballos78795 жыл бұрын
Nice match. both good characters. leffen good. Mkleo good too. Me, Ike main
@aayank77225 жыл бұрын
nice country flag
@krmunoz21695 жыл бұрын
ME IKE MAIN. ME SMASH. That's how I imagine Ike mains :D
@doubled64905 жыл бұрын
@@krmunoz2169 ME NAIR*
@tinyt.w.i.m72915 жыл бұрын
Kristofher Muñoz Rojas I wish you were wrong lol
@Wizard_Lizard_5 жыл бұрын
@@krmunoz2169 Me Ike player. Me approve.
@peterrrrrrrrr4 жыл бұрын
The start of this game was so hype. Seeing the sm4sh and melee players vs was so interesting. It wont be as exciting for me again.