This Is What Winning Looks Like (Part 2/3)

[@isaacmayer407]

Not shooting until you see the enemy is not a very hard concept to understand

[@akhashdhillon2159]

'so I empty my magazine into the air when I hear gunshots?'

[@andreyrioux]

Don't worry, they're CS:GO pros, prefiring is their specialty

[@Warhawk-dz2gt]

...is it really though?

[@flaviusbelisarius7517]

Maybe he was thinking suppressing fire? It feels better to be doing the shooting than to be shot at

[@Olamina-c1y]

@@flaviusbelisarius7517 It's called 'trigger happiness'. Same thing happened in WW II with amatuer soldiers to the point where it became an extensively researched topic. It really boils down to training and proper discipline within the unit. One of the reasons for it could be that they're scared, so instead of actually engaging the enemy he just lets them know "hey! we're here, we see you and we've got more weapons than you." Same reason why someone might wanna keep them at pointystick distance instead of knife distance. With the knife someone's getting hurt, with the stick the option of retreat is left open. The likeliness of those bullets doing anything to the enemy is probably close to the likeliness that they fly over to the next village and hits a farmer.

[@ed2869]

Respect for that one competent Afghan commander. Well this comment aged terribly

[@mariow7818]

One competent Afghan with less and less competent soldiers. I hope he lives well and did something good with those lazy bums of his

[@trending7480]

@Synchro what's his name?

[@ayushacharya972]

@@trending7480 He's Major Hamid Sayiffi. After Helmand, he was transferred to Kunduz province in Northern Afghanistan. BTW, the entire Afghan battalion surrendered to the Taliban. Our Commander held onto his district for 9 years. Without him, they gave up within a year.

[@trending7480]

@@ayushacharya972 Thank you :)

[@ayushacharya972]

@@trending7480 They told these details in a separate Vice documentary, a follow-up, made about 2 years later.

[@maximkazhenkov11]

Forget democracy, this place hasn't even reached feudalism yet.

[@kanga8985]

haha they cant even beat the tutorial of age of empires

[@paulproductions9213]

maximkazhenkov11 Yet no western power could occupy them long for the past 1000 years, the east is where civilization flourish, like it racist fools or not.

[@maximkazhenkov11]

Nobody could occupy the moon for long either. The more barren, the less incentive there is to occupy it for long. Look at all the economic emigrants, not even Afghans want to live in Afghanistan.

[@khalilmason]

Paul Arias We really need to be raising the bar for civilizations if this place qualifies. Pretty sure a couple hundred years ago they were under Timurid rule, but we only believe what we can see, yes? And maybe the Mughals and Persians before that. I think even Alexander the Great got in on that action. It's not hard when everyone's killing each other over what they think their God wants. It's not racist to be disdainful for a disunified people when a large portion of them adhere to heretical teachings of Islam like Wahabit. The way Afghanistan is now: they have no place in the international community. We should've let Russia kill off those boy fuckers 40-50 years ago.

[@khalilmason]

Paul Arias We really need to be raising the bar for civilizations if this place qualifies. Pretty sure a couple hundred years ago they were under Timurid rule, but we only believe what we can see, yes? And maybe the Mughals and Persians before that. I think even Alexander the Great got in on that action. It's not hard when everyone's killing each other over what they think their God wants. It's not racist to be disdainful for a disunified people when a large portion of them adhere to heretical teachings of Islam like Wahabit. The way Afghanistan is now: they have no place in the international community. We should've let Russia kill off those boy fuckers 40-50 years ago.

[@TinyBolts1]

Commander: "Don't waste ammo" Soldiers when they see air: "PRATATATATATATATATATATA"

[@maazkalim]

Is that a real onomatopœia? 🤔

[@bobthebuilder1360]

@@maazkalim everything is real

[@SGT676]

"Soldier"

[@robertthetroll1909]

@@SGT676 huh?

[@SGT676]

@@robertthetroll1909 he was calling them soldiers but I don't think any one should be calling these clowns soldiers

[@mutalisk888]

when NATO leaves these guys are basically dead...

[@jake02cute]

Or when we leave they realize they have to take responsibility for themselves and become better

[@stevenking2980]

+jake02cute but they aren't. And we aren't all equal, sorry.

[@casimirkulikowski5949]

+mutalisk888 ya from OD of heroin

[@ThePCGamerTipsTricks]

Thats not going to happen, all these guys care about is themselves, not about the country of Afghanistan, they will end up all deserting or being killed.

[@thenobleandmightybeaver4411]

Not really, they'll probably disband and join whatever warlord is the strongest guy in the region.

[@carlbelit9049]

Now I know why 5 navy seals can wipe out whole regiments

[@nathansevereijns]

you don't have to be good, just better haha

[@bobthebuilder1360]

Any person with brains could kill these guys

[@PaulisInclusion]

Carlbelit lmaooo

[@humdunkin328]

@RICKY no you couldn't you picked the most bitch part of the army you couldn't fight a cold

[@ares4086]

@@humdunkin328 The air force isnt part of the army you brain dead mongrel.

[@Overlord99762]

Major Steuber, wherever you are, I hope you are doing well

[@peteraurora7544]

Commander Shepard #Steuber4Promo

[@treasuregoblin9188]

Great leader

[@urwifesmacho777]

Yes he's the George Washington type of leader

[@Dezzatube]

He still should speak up, court marshal or not. A good man watching some horrible shit happen and no power to stop it.

[@hashmastergeneral6053]

Yes I second that and pray for you and your family. You are a true American Patriot and Hero. Just for telling the truth. We see how much you really do care it's all over your face. God grant you peace after all you have seen and been through in Christ's name. Amen

[@dontworry5696]

I feel like if all the people in this comment section banned together, they could defeat the Afghan army

[@zavtradnem]

So how come Brits and Soviets lost and US army did nothing?

[@yohannesgebeyhu5164]

@@zavtradnem when the Soviet came to Afghan Americans helped the Afghan army with every thing they got

[@zavtradnem]

@@yohannesgebeyhu5164 I'm that Soviet. Born and raised. My uncle served in Afghan war 1981-84

[@danielwoods3896]

@@zavtradnem respect, but OP is talking about the ANA, which could be defeated with a wet rag and a can-do attitude.

[@emalkhan638]

You would pee in your pants only if you be there in that area let alone fighting

[@tommy1138]

These clowns are less organized than your average Airsoft players. What a joke.

[@angelosevero4721]

Hahaha that's a good one

[@Owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww]

@jeanluc305 west coast players are pussymeat

[@Smokin_5.56]

@@Owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww Southeastern players are Chads.

[@CP-jk3tc]

The US shouldn't have meddled in the 79-89s' Soviet-Afghan war in in the first place.

[@thomastorodo9968]

Imaging them playing airsoft then

[@llllllolllllllll]

This video makes you love where you live

[@seraph-m]

Yeah, holy shit I've never appreciated America quite this much

[@LinusOva]

Amen. Every country has it's problems, but in Afghanistan, it looks like problems have a country :(

[@noahdunford6360]

In the UK we might have Brexit and extreme government division but it’s not as bad as this.

[@tjt5973]

@@noahdunford6360 Saying it as if Brexit is a bad thing

[@noahdunford6360]

Yes are you saying it’s a good thing?

[@meinenapkinen9167]

Marine: "You have to *LOOK* at who you are shooting at!" Afghan Policeman: "?"

[@TheVeloxity247]

I'm dying xDDDD

[@JM-nl9ow]

These are Marines not soldiers....

[@JM-nl9ow]

The420SixNiner soldiers are in the Army

[@tsfbaf303]

JAMESON McDANIELS Except soldier is just the profession, not the member name of whoever’s military that soldier belongs too. Marines are also soldiers

[@JM-nl9ow]

@@tsfbaf303 I promise you no Jarhead wants to be called a soldier......

[@dnkmarci]

i could pick up 5 guys at a Denny’s at 3am, and I almost guarantee they would be more effective then the Afghan militia.

[@e.w5204]

I believe you live in America

[@SavageZebra67]

@A M thats too far white women at starbucks have trouble breathing let alone noticing people around them

[@robotb0b255]

Conner Legen and?

[@amogus7928]

@Marcial Anaya why won’t you try, and we might see how it turns out for you, because we all know your just talk.

[@eyasulegesse6208]

comes to show how bad USA is at training militia Pakistan trained the Taliban they seem to be doing a lot better

[@Unboxning]

That briefing with the ambassadors felt like something out of the office lol

[@Thomas-sr2oq]

it was super surreal, literally felt like a skit from a military sitcom

[@itube0047]

Why didn't anyone say something?

[@okaycoo4224]

I miss odd future):

[@tipperzack]

Its not funny when its real.

[@TheUsername55555100]

It was the cheesy video at the end

[@salmansalahuddin6305]

Watching this 7yrs later and Afganistan has still not changed ☹

[@bobthebuilder1360]

Worse? Or the same

[@dominikhutnikviktorovichch8546]

@@bobthebuilder1360 worse

[@varun009]

I agree. We should just nuke it.

[@Kazuma_De5u]

@@varun009 I think that would me mercy for those poor victims.

[@varun009]

@@Kazuma_De5u dude, I was just riffing. That's insane. You're insane.

[@sazedheroofages5761]

These guys are hopeless. Have we tried training the women? They would probably be better. I'm serious.

[@balls8013]

there's no guarantee that the women would try raping little kids, too

[@marcelg510]

I’m not even gonna front that would be a great idea

[@TheFacelessStoryMaker]

Well, I doubt in this country they would allow women to fight like in the U.S.

[@CaRpeDieam96]

@@ninjalel2877 It's not never a bad idea.

[@mildsleep2420]

yup

[@gianni_schicchi]

This aged exceptionally well, unfortunately. We knew then they were going to quit. Congrats VICE for having the foresight to do this peace. History made.

[@royfr8136]

piece

[@dirtysok9856]

Unfortunately, the colonel was given the order to put weapons down and had the ANA evacced. They were hired to defend their nation and left first. Such a disgrace

[@chadwik4000]

was "peace" a pun, or did you not know it was piece? This is a good...ahem...piece.... They should have done one on the deliberate dumbing down of America, too.

[@mahbubhussain8053]

Why did America go to Afghanistan

[@mahbubhussain8053]

Did America go to control the Heroine?

[@BattlegroundsFTW]

After watching the first part, seeing this makes me feel a bit better, knowing that at least SOME of the ANA and ANP are good people and actually care about winning.

[@AlaskanTrain21]

+Colin G Yeah, like the smallest fraction. Nothing is completely black or white, and this goes for the mostly bad too, just like in Afghanistan. Not all are bad, but it's more than safe to say most are.

[@robertmcclain804]

+sandythebear. yah but that's because the regime/isis makes the good people fight with them. some bad, have no option. fight or die.

[@Top.Ramin.Noodles]

AlaskanTrain21 Well most of the population is Pashtun so yeah.

[@funkle2645]

Theres no winning against insurgencies using JUST military force, you have to change the hearts and minds of the people AND bring the country's quality of life up significantly. Is that gonna happen in Afghanistan? Nope.

[@mijemumijemu4466]

Problem is they are saying well, we got em the poppy fields cookin up the opium and they are high as fuck all the time and they can't do shit. lol.

[@Dragon228833]

Lil uzi has more armored vehicles than the entire Afghan army

[@garthugandan470]

BRUH

[@grotesque.]

Lol u thought.

[@Yaizmel]

@DjJibo Gaming your uzi meat rider 🤣

[@spoonygod]

@@Yaizmel bro have u heard celebration station??

[@reloadedmp789]

I got more in gta

[@ProtoMario]

This is what I fought for... I am dead inside.

[@hyrofoo]

why is you of all people here

[@smellmyclock]

bull shit, stolen valor ass

[@johnhansen5258]

ProtoMario o

he served for 5 years

[@Gregamite]

All i can say is sorry, thanks for your service friend.

[@Anon-ek3ck]

I feel so bad for those little boys and I feel so bad for that major who clearly cares so deeply about the boys but doesn’t have the power to do anything.

[@tangofrown3352]

@Black Panther true

[@ianmangham4570]

Yup, the filthy fkrs are still at it today, its a pedophile culture

[@infinix8194]

@@tangofrown3352 ű

[@dynagaming2693]

I felt bad for Major Steuber. You can tell during the visit by the ambassador that he wanted to speak up and tell the truth about how horrible it was all going, but due to military protocol you generally don't say anything unless asked. You can just see the distress in his eyes. This is what irritates me when people claim that we never cared about being over there, and that we were somehow there to exploit the country and its resources. Overarching policy, perhaps, but many of our soldiers on the ground truly believed in the mission. It's sickening that so much blood and treasure has been lost to this ultimately pointless war.

[@lettuce258]

he should have kept his buttchin out of it then

[@sahaynam6470]

It's the officer culture (O6 and up). Just awful, though honestly it seems to be the natural product of a decadent civilization well into its twilight.

[@rafaelaizon8025]

Can he just violate protocol

[@nicolasclermont893]

@@rafaelaizon8025 He would be replaced immediately by somebody else. That person may or may not tow the line then. If the replacement does then great, if not then rinse and repeat until the line is towed.

[@snedler]

Vice you are doing a good job with your documentaries. Keep up the good work

[@gen-zhippie2203]

Oh how times have changed

[@kaushikkolla5936]

this didn't age well

[@abhishekbadhan25]

How the times have changed..

[@FlyingUnosaur]

And now they're cheering on domestic terrorists :)

[@comrade4329]

@@FlyingUnosaur touche

[@gmccmemberk]

Shaking my head about those ambassadors. They're clearly lying and they don't even care.

[@witherleader6715]

Why are they lying? You're to nationalistic to believe that your country is doing fuck all? They're living there, it's their country. We've fucked it up and we aren't doing too much to help.

[@feelsgood4603]

You are misguided. The guy you replied to is talking about the US ambassadors lying about how everything is fine in Afghanistan. On that note, they can't help these people anymore than they can. You cannot help the unwilling and those Afghan "soldiers" would fight the American troops if they tried to stop them from raping, dealing drugs, stealing, extorting. It was that way before the US ever went there. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. So grateful to be an American and forever thankful to ALL soldiers.

[@jamesscholl300]

Look, there's not much they can do. Its easy to vilify them when you're watching a documentary like this. I'm as dissapointed as you are, but this is only one side of the story.

[@shaycormac3195]

@@jamesscholl300 I apologize but I don't see the other side of raping children

[@crisnevin7934]

Just because we were stupid enough to go in there doesn't mean we're the ones who fucked it up. That place was pretty fucked to begin with.

[@monkeymachine5360]

My heart kind of hurts for that one competent afghan commander like he really tried his best with those undisciplined guys

[@jaypers232]

Just an absolute joke

[@ejuju1]

A waste of my tax dollaes

[@alexchavez3244]

@@ejuju1 no its not it was a waste of tax dollars leaving

[@ejuju1]

@@alexchavez3244 you telling me 10k+ in taxes they take away every year wasn’t a waste?

[@williamrowell4942]

@@ejuju1 stop making a humanitarian tragedy about yourself. Try your best to cast your mind beyond its limited selfish borders.

[@Beboroni]

That major is going to need tons of therapy when he gets back

[@prancer1803]

Poor guy. Why do American leaders/politicians send talented young military people… into such situations? It’s hurtful.

[@lookingforsomething]

If only the US cared enough for its citizens to have public health care, mental and otherwise

[@amy109]

@@lookingforsomething 😂😂😂🤣🤣

[@lookingforsomething]

@@amy109 I know that the US health care system is a joke, but I'm still not laughing :(

[@laetrille]

Afghanistan is doomed.

[@justiceforbigcheese9388]

RIP Afghanistan 2001-2015

[@laetrille]

***** Exceptional.

[@jazordon]

***** I think that at the first place we should understand that those people DO NOT want you to help them. You would not have all that problems if you did not come here at the first place...

[@andrewspillan3486]

2018 and it's still this bad lol

[@roninhd4821]

Jakub S right all the terrorists would just stop killing innocent people if we left the government would stop being corrupt it would all be fine

[@tomm.5191]

Afghan General: “All unnecesary fire should be avoided.” Afghan soldier: “aLL uNnEcEsArY fIrE sHoUlD bE aVoIdEd"

[@bad71hd]

Tom McAteer So what was your point with you every other Capital letter?

[@Slippy100]

@@bad71hd bit late it's a visual way to Express that they don't take what they're saying seriously, mostly used to convey sarcasm

[@SonOftheBattleCry]

You were the one to the start that spelling trend

[@bad71hd]

@@Slippy100 more like a way to look like FOOLS!. Like you

[@Slippy100]

@@bad71hd says the guys that was one year late to the party, my mistake for trying to inform an American, forgot how you pigs love to roll around in your own ignorance

[@cosmic_rain9417]

I like how the old guy who collects casings to sell also takes his time to shoot and dosent just waste ammo, one of the only ones not wasting ammo, and the only one who has a good reason to waste ammo

[@TheBard1999]

Propably because he's not being yet paid for the ammo so each shot is out of his own pocket.

[@cosmic_rain9417]

@@TheBard1999 he's just a soldier, he's not paying for the ammo, and its common for them to just get mad and waste ammo shooting the air

[@TheBard1999]

@@cosmic_rain9417 i referred to the old guy who was preserving ammunition.

[@K00Ldude98]

Seeing the Afghan solder wearing a Russian helmet from the Soviet invasion really just shows you how much of a futile effort the US involvement in Afghanistan really is

[@jakeoht791]

One more Bowl The first video showed there is a lot of effort from the marines.

[@jmac6750]

Lol, we aren’t gonna kit them up with nice stuff? Tf? They’ll just sell it

[@MrKruska11]

Same as Taliban and other terrorists were armed by US and now look what are they doing. They said they wouldn't make that mistake again

[@beastmachine1655]

@@jmac6750 exactly

[@amy109]

Because everything we’ve given to them is now going to the Taliban.

[@benjaminsmith1089]

Major Steuber, thank you for your efforts. I can see that this took a toll on you. You have a true view for humanity.

[@shmigmane9899]

they’re like 11 year olds having a paintball war literally shooting at nothing

[@anti-ticktickspecialforces1871]

I think 11 year olds are more mature and organized

[@nadiamahmoud4426]

@@anti-ticktickspecialforces1871 kzbin.info/www/bejne/mZiph6SumJV3gdk

[@wolololer]

@@anti-ticktickspecialforces1871 yup, put this guys on a paintball match aginst a bunch of 12 years old and i think the kids would win

[@foxtrotnine]

@@anti-ticktickspecialforces1871 I know the Scouts have better discipline.

[@nartron3000]

the old man collecting bullet casing to feed himself while hes fighting a war is my fucking hero

[@bradleysmith9431]

Funny thing is he tricked the AFA into a shooting competition,"I bet you can't hit that" then picked up their casings.

[@addiction4062]

@@bradleysmith9431 lmao funny old dude

[@NoaVanSnick]

@@bradleysmith9431 lol

[@sunnykang3146]

I felt sorry for him

[@kev1593]

If he is somehow still alive I wish him a longer life

[@TheFacelessStoryMaker]

The guy at the start seems really intelligent. Splitting a force into an Infil Group, Attack Support Group, and Reservists is smart. Also utilizing local resources is smart as well to know where and how much the enemy presence is in certain areas.

[@DynastyMaster62492]

Yeah, I would guess he is one of the few that actually paid attention to the training/education by western forces. I can't speak for other branches or militaries, but that was some of the basics from battle drill 1: conduct a platoon attack.

[@googiegress]

That man gave an impassioned plea for those village elders to join him, and it was well constructed, and crafted to his audience. It takes a long time to teach someone how to do that. I suspect it was more from who he was as a whole person, not just some military training. He just couldn't get a "yes" out of them for the reasons given shortly thereafter.

[@ashtzy9682]

If he only had a discipline soldiers I bet they can accomplish every operation they had

[@czarpeppers]

That US army guy, I forget his rank, that is a true American hero.

[@loganhall3477]

What army guy? You mean Marine? (We service members are touchy about branch distinction)

[@czarpeppers]

Logan Hall Haha, I do sincerely apologize for my ignorance. I believe he was a Major of the US Marines.

[@jeffb7256]

Yes, unlike the other lying piece of shit that lied about the situation knowing that all the rape and things that happen.

[@czarpeppers]

Yep. The problem is their superiors are under an illusion that the regular soldiers aren't. I wonder how long it will be before the Taliban are back in power.

[@ruthlesspanda7636]

Stephen Prevost hopefully never.

[@historiador1420]

Afghanistan needs more soldiers like Hamid Khan... not those police stoners in the villages tssk

[@mariow7818]

Nobody needs stoners

[@Blazer1244]

Nah, I'm a fan of the guy who was absolutely off his ass on whatever opiod, clearly knows what he was doing.

[@TheTaterTotP80]

There aren't many like him around over there.

[@AliCanTUNCER8]

Timestamps for future use: 2:12 Vietnam War era helmet? 2:21 Problem with ethnic structure of the Afghan national army and Pashtuns. 4:23 Paying Pashtuns to stop them attacking. 5:10 Firing without knowing where the enemies and ending up firing at friendlies. 5:35 Afghan commander speaking in English. 6:40 Randomly firing. 6:58 ANA guy fled with weapons and rockets and joins Taliban to kill his ANA commander. 7:34 Balloons for surveillance. 8:40 Collecting casings to sell as scrap at the local bazaar. 9:35 On locals picking sides. 14:05 Painting a good picture for Western authorities and the actual truth (really long segment). 22:22 Police abuse of child labor for various reasons including sex. 23:50 Police chief on the previous timestamp's topic.

[@gianni_schicchi]

👊

[@widar1plays645]

First helmet is soviet from WW2

[@henryschmidt485]

adding to this 5:13 you can see an ana soldier wearing a modern british royal army helmet

[@AliCanTUNCER8]

@Black Panther Sh'ma Yisrael!

[@rahulvats95]

8:40 that's probably the reason for firing randomly

[@SovietBearBoxing]

My friend stationed there who just came home told me a story of how bad it is over there.... And quote: "By far the poorest country on earth, I was called on a walk about for a missing child. We rolled up to a Cesspool and I saw that the child was face down dead in a pile of shit in the pool. I walked chest deep into the shit to pull this dead child out by his legs. By the time we got to the father's house we had learned that the father killed the child cause he was tired of hearing him whining from an ear ache. He didn't know what to do so the father killed him and threw him in the cesspool".

[@DurableMoose442]

As sad as it is that's the kind of sick, disturbing thing that happens daily over there and no matter what the U.S. tries to do nothing will change it.

[@bad71hd]

KOZ PRODUCTIONS Yeah same here I faced many scenes like that over there. Mothers who bash their heads in of babies because they wouldn’t stop crying from hunger so they just kill them! Forget using a rubber not having to get in the first place or sterilization in mass

[@ck2721]

It's clear the afghans don't want to fight for themselves

[@rmblwgn]

they just want to be left to smoke weed, opium and diddle boys

[@AutoSia]

Pashtuns don't want to fight, cuz they are on the other side(Taliban). As soon as they (Pashtun) got time they'll backstab you.

[@Slippy100]

@Shaz B. almost like taking the word of god literally isnt a good idea

[@ahmadhassan8466]

They don't want to fight for US. Whole thing is a meaningless face saving mission for US, and intelligent ones know this

[@fardeenkhan4316]

@@AutoSia A PASHTUN CAN BE ANYTHING BUT COWARD AND DISLOYAL HE ISNT AND WHY THE FUCK WOULD THEY FIGHT UR BATTLE YOU CREATED THIS MESS YOU CLEAN IT UP

[@ImVenoms]

“Fahk you taliban” that just made my day XD

[@ukdrillnews8453]

9:38

[@K33MMOBILE]

@@ukdrillnews8453 9:31 *

[@reverseshotgun721]

I was hesitant to watch this for years thinking it would be some anti-military propaganda or something along those lines. I will be the first to admit that I am wrong. This documentary really shows the "damned if we do, damned if we don't" nature of US-Afghan relations at the time, and it's saddening to me to see that there is so little that can be done, but so much that should.

[@jakeoht791]

Cyphrix101 Don’t be fooled Vice has produced some amazing documentaries.

[@XiangYu94]

I think it’s really valuable actually. If the public is informed on what the real factors are, they can adjust / reform their pressure towards pursuing more productive policies (and not supporting dumb or hasty policies).

[@legionarulsquad6676]

Just leave them be!! It's the only thing that it will actually work!!

[@joni8090]

Remember You can take a horse to water but you can't make it drink !?

[@mghegotagun]

Seriously, wtf are these people shooting at?!

[@caleblf1012]

They're just really frustrated...still not justified tho

[@BergenDev]

Thta MG guy on the roof shooting from the hip in a angle UP must kill a lot of air in a day, This is horrible to watch.. Why waste ammo on shit you cant see? Just why!? Sigh...

[@jocem0097]

BergenDev It's because they see it as a game. They are so stoned that they don't even realize how serious this all is. However I doubt it would be better without the drugs. It reminds me of the enthusiasm for WW1, where even 16yo went cos they thought it was all fun and games. If you ask me, I say we get all our boys home and those idiots down there can quite frankly go and f.... And worst thing is that soldiers want to serve their country, but with politicians like those shown, the sad truth is that their sacrifice was for nothing and doesn't change a bit. This is a terrible situation down there and we shouldn't intervene.

[@mreffects4230]

they shoot to waste munition so the americans supply more then they can take a few boxes off the top to sell or give to the Taliban

[@sir_blasphemy_the_first]

I got super pissed off when they said that their own soldiers were firing at the local police

[@rossjames8839]

I don't think there's a more frustrating summation of the situation than at 19:00 to 20:00 The implication that he wouldn't be as frank is that they knew they were being bullshitted and didn't mind, because it was bullshit they liked hearing. That is a horrible subtext.

[@60lbackpack52]

watching this and then seeing the events unfold today, it all makes sense now

[@mahbubhussain8053]

Who controls the Heroine now

[@wbs1O1]

Thank you Vice reporters for filming this, this will be huge in history

[@thatcooperfellow]

dude. how are the this shit at this? god damn back in the Marines it seemed like we thought we didn't know what the fuck we were doing but these guys are making us look like incredible special ops guys.

[@paratroop82504]

Holy sh*t this is really depressing...I was an advisor in Khost 05-06 and this was exactly my situation....Sad to see no improvement whatsoever

[@ChevTecGroup]

I met some very dedicated ANA and Afghan civilians in 2012 in khost. Problem was the smart ones were trying to move to America

[@sgttater2313]

@@ChevTecGroup Wouldn't you?

[@ChevTecGroup]

@@sgttater2313 oh of course I would. And many of them I would have happily had as my neighbor. It's just unfortunate because it hurts their home country. When all their intelligent and educated leave, it let's the evil win

[@sgttater2313]

@@ChevTecGroup Yep

[@chazmichaelmichaels88]

Thank you for your service, Patriot.

[@SgtSayWhat]

The whole culture of keeping Chai boys really isn't as foreign as it sounds. Both the ancient Greeks and Romans did it as part of an "education". These guys are just 2000 years behind us.

[@jonnyenough1531]

The world is run by pedos. That's how you keep people in line, with blackmail.

[@thouwierdo]

@Long Schnozzed Tribesman No it is true. A quick Wikipedia search will show you it was legally allowed to have slave children to bed, male or female, In both Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome.

[@dimasakbar7668]

IIRC they also have that kind of arrangements in Japan during the times of the Samurai, basically those young boys as some kind of squire under tutelage of older more senior samurai

[@ankur219]

and whose fault is that ?..afghanistan was once a very flourishing land then russia ,usa destroyed them completely

[@nannan1428]

Ankur u fucking lier it's always been a shithole and people like you who ignore it's discrepancies are the problem

[@nnerd]

10:53 What a hero. Truly a man who cares about the village in which he stands in.

[@bobthebuilder1360]

And hes doing it for free

[@michael3450]

Much respect for him👍

[@cliffordsikora9841]

They don't seem to understand the basic principle of a weapon

[@jojosantos9100]

Major Steuber..a real good honest man.we salute you sir...😣

[@jethro035181]

i want my tax money back...we're financing a three stooges comedy

[@dorbormax1438]

Yes sir

[@DooDooDeeDee]

Its a war crime

[@saeedvazirian]

You're the idiot who decided to pay in the first place. DOn't insul them when they didn't ask for an invasion.

[@aced9852]

Hermann Schloffer von Graz what we just not pay taxes? Dumbass

[@redinstrumental7535]

I Agree

[@skarekrow7812]

Why they complaining about resources if they shoot their bullets anywhere

[@kazoolordhd6591]

They dont want to fight so they think by shooting at nothing they are scaring the enemy. They just wasting ammo

[@awesom6588]

at least some of these people want to win. granted theyre hilariously bad marksmen but theyre trying. the rest of these people are uncivilized. might as well be 1300 there for them.

[@TheTaterTotP80]

Never in the history of the world, let alone 1300, was the Western world as disgusting as this.

[@Lapele-fb9gj]

@@TheTaterTotP80 🤣🤣 the English nobility used to bury dead kings inside of the castles and then Plagues will rise from the corpses of nobility to slaughter everyone in England with diseases Search for your own history and find the truth.

[@sosic172]

3:59 to see a God tier uni brow

[@crudeoilhaln1911]

Sosic I can never unpause that in my brain. Thanks

[@youbelter_gaming1277]

haha!

[@Ostalgie658]

I saw that... more like the “special” forces

[@smow7422]

Made my day

[@justadummy8076]

You mean Allah-tier

[@comicbookninja5268]

Democracy is not for every country. Afghanistan is a perfect example.

[@bumboklaatry5828]

democracy is a fucking joke

[@51random_guy_63]

massiv pp man xddd Ok sure whatever

[@bumboklaatry5828]

@@51random_guy_63 keep saying that while you keep voting for the same people that don't do anything different and continue to do the same thing over and over again

[@bumboklaatry5828]

@Нурали Калиаскар was i ever talking about communism? are you illiterate or something? i don't even like it anymore than "democracy", ironically speaking you're acting like a 14 year old nostalgic towards communism if anything

[@hagenre8909]

@Нурали Калиаскар he never even talked about communism. Democracy in its pure form doest really exist. Its a lobbycracy, led by economic elites. There lays the real power. To vote for people who all just serve the economy every 4 years isnt democracy

[@dropdeadinc.customtattoo2537]

This was overall the best documentary about what's REALLY going on in Afghanistan ever made

[@LegetusOptioxNarbonensii]

As an American, this is hard to watch

[@Marjona]

This is hard to watch from any perspective. What the fuck does being American have to do with moral?

[@brandonwright1001]

Marjona Saidjamol You 3rd world hypocrites are the reason your countries are miserable shitholes.

[@brandonwright1001]

Marjona Saidjamol I used to think Muslims were people like everybody else, until the last few years. I hate you islamic fundamentalists so much, my blood burns in my veins.

[@thetmntr1943]

isn't it harder to watch the twin towers burn?

[@Festias]

Basil TheGreat I guess it depends on the person, but what's your point?

[@parkerrobinson6161]

Now I see why America and our allies are still in the war, bc the Afghani Army can't even follow simple instructions and initiate simple assaults

[@leonodonoghueburke4276]

"During the early hours of March 23, 2017, the Taliban captured the town, thus fully securing the district of Sangin" - Sangin, Wikipedia

[@kafkabigmon]

I really like the journalist being there to explain things and his intent with the video, genuinely good addition I wish other documentaries had

[@BURNANNATOR]

Those useless ambassadors....

[@cyberjonx]

I just returned from Afghanistan doing this exact mission and I can say that 100% of what is shown here is accurate. The scary part is I was in a completely different province and district.........

[@waiatm]

​@Black Panther what did you fight for?

[@aarondoodoo1513]

​@blackpanther5086The battles only battles you fight are in youtube comment sections

[@vishnukumarkr3499]

Respect for that one afghan commander who really want to change his country...

[@jasmineali5699]

25:01 he looks so traumatized :(

[@MLaker221]

Bill Steuber is an incredible person. This is so captivating, just done with this part, moving on to part 3. I am just amazed. My little brother just got back from Afghanistan a few months ago. When I see him again I am definitely going to ask him about some of these experiences.

[@Bnzc6]

All they do is blame others and want everything for themselfs without working for it... what a joke.

[@SonOftheBattleCry]

Driftzz Bernie bro’s to a T

[@Pov_Chrisss]

Bruh they are starting to sound like a country of western women

[@honkhonk8009]

sounds like me lol.

[@lookingforsomething]

Just wish the US had never invaded their country.

[@Romanoff.Kalashnikov]

Afghan Army be like: *Stoned af and itchy trigger finger*

[@antman7673]

This is Middle Ages with modern weapons. -These People badly need education.

[@jamesdarnell9]

Middle East used to be vibrant and a cultural fulcrum...I think years of incest and Islam destroyed their culture and people

[@Wel8212]

@@jamesdarnell9 You switched it, The middle east used to be a shithole where people burry their daughters and do adultery and many other things until Islam came and created their culture and religion.

[@jamesdarnell9]

@@Wel8212 look up a picture of Iran in 1965 and the women and look at the artwork and architecture of the ancient Babylonians and Sumerians

[@compnewz4562]

Love how that guy was just standing in the open pointing at a sniper lmao like dude how are any of them still alive 😂😂

[@izzatihassan1475]

19:54 the elected local leaders basically sums up leading to what happened in August 2021.

[@samuelyap9367]

youtube recommendations has a weird sense of humor

[@Fb1999_]

Some of the best content vice has made

[@XiangYu94]

0:25 Finally, a decent player has entered the server

[@thecanadiankiwibirb4512]

20:04 this guy knows what’s up. He explained the situation better than any westerner I’ve heard ever has.

[@thatnorwegianguy1986]

And he was 100% right everything he just said came to pass three weeks ago.

[@shotguncreeper]

@Black Panther why are you spamming

[@shotguncreeper]

@Black Panther what are you even talking about

[@symeremeyers4148]

22:43 the way he touched him was so creepy

[@legionarulsquad6676]

Major Steuber, you have all my respect and appreciation!! Respect from Romania!! Hope you and your family are doing well!

[@dhickoxiraq]

After World War 2 how long did it take for Japan and Germany to go from bombed out city's to thriving metropolises??we helped curate this monstrosity..should of just let the Soviets have it..

[@firefyfe6211]

+David Hickox Germany and Japan were funded a hell of a lot more money. Also, NATO troops would have been stationed there, instead of solely one country's military

[@dhickoxiraq]

Afghanistan is just a cesspool child molesters and thieves..how can you build a nation on folks who would rather screw over the next guy then just work together and build there country..They just don't get it..

[@firefyfe6211]

There are plenty of creeps in the country that you live in. Its just that in Afghanistan we've removed anyone that is competent

[@firefyfe6211]

Seamus Ward Patriots are more retarded than people that live in mental asylums

[@firefyfe6211]

Seamus Ward For someone with such high IQ you sure do use your life badly. Your parents must be so proud to have given birth to you on the motorway; it's where most accidents happen.

[@ironsights1809]

When Afgans are fighting on the side of the Taliban, they put up a hell of a fight. When they are with the Americans or in the Afgan army they won't fight. They just quit.

[@VidioOfProblem]

Yeah cause who tf wanna fight for their occupiers? lel.

[@kamilyasin967]

ya. That's what happen now. 2021

[@mcmuffin558]

Instead of shooting bullets we should just spray them with a bottle of raid

[@zeroeffortmemes]

Well we did that in Vietnam and everyone got all mad about it

[@guygos007]

Marine: "You have to LOOK at who you are shooting at!" Afghani solider: What did he say?

[@offbeatpubg7444]

Spray and pray silver in CSGO

[@witherleader6715]

Negev needs nerfed

[@christianseiber3433]

3:58 the guys helmet says "ANA Special Forces" hahahahahahaha

[@borispetuchow8591]

Imagine if this is the afghan special force you dont wanna see the regular soldiers 😂

[@stark1987]

"special" has many connotations, lol

[@peter2213]

Why do I feel more confident recruiting 20 kids from my local airsoft arena to wipe out there whole army?

[@justussmith8508]

OEF veteran here (two tours in Iraq). If I ever give advice to a young person about joining the US military, it will be "make sure you're fighting for something worthwhile". Neither this nor Iraq were worth the time, money, and loss of life. I lost friends out there in Iraq. And what do we have to show for it? Not a damn thing; just like Vietnam. The people have to want the change.

[@alexhunt6258]

3:59 the best unibrow I’ve ever seen

[@SerMattzio]

It's amazing, you can visibly see the difference between the corrupt soldiers and the ones who actually care. The dodgy security forces are unkempt, covered in grime, have tatty uniforms and look permanently strung out and apathetic. Then you see the guys who are training hard and trying to guard their nation and they are neat, clean and alert.

[@uAvengerable]

My Drill Sergeant in basic training always said " The first step to being great is looking great", and now I realize it goes both ways

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

23:38 wow

[@DrHydra47]

Coincidence? I think not No but in all seriousness the terrorist actually planned everything out

[@DNightShift]

27:20 why are we helping them again

[@tsfbaf303]

How are you helping them again

[@timgorham7811]

Don`t these people evolve? You would think after a few generations they would advance.

[@Dom-py2ow]

Hard to evolve with all the incest going on

[@waterheaterservices]

The only thing that has evolved is the unproven theory of evolution. Islam is based on the Qur'an, on the life of Pedophile Mohammed. Nothing to 'evolve' to when you belong to a murderous enslaving rape cult.

[@ahmadabudieyeh7197]

No education no evolution

[@officialz8328]

Yall blaming Islam ? Do you know Dubai is also a Muslim country ? But you’d still go there .

[@saeedvazirian]

Advancement is relative. WHat makes you think you're advanced?

[@idresshinwari4763]

As an afghan I respect the major Steuber. He is really trying to make my country a better place. Hope he’s well!

[@anbuk7953]

Is it pedophiles are common in Afghanistan?

[@idresshinwari4763]

Anbu K Yeah very common. But they are seen as bad in the society. They call them “Murdagaws” which literally means “ a dead cows ”.

[@anbuk7953]

@@idresshinwari4763 that's very sad.

[@spidey885]

@@anbuk7953 No one likes it in Afghanistan

[@Creckking]

19:47 - 21:30 Rewatching this years later and everything the elder said is just plain truth. The Soldier wanted to hear positive feedback, but they just told him that its not gonna work this way, years ahead of time.

[@moe109_]

3:47 now that's the most square face I've ever seen the fifth dude

[@kristelbracke6185]

Get too da choppa noww

[@Vidable113]

the amount of shitstorm in VICE comment sections is unbelievable

[@cheesuscrust8451]

haha yep

[@InFaredTurtles]

Hamed Saifi is present in Panjshir. Him and a lot of Afghan commandos are forming a resistance to fight the taliban in the valley.

[@alioshax7797]

Panshir hasn't fallen ? It's hard to find detailed information about Afghanistan, but I assumed that since both Kunduz and the Afghan-Tajik border are in the hands of the Talibans, even that region would have been taken.

[@InFaredTurtles]

@@alioshax7797 no Panjshir and parwan belong to the new norther alliance, they are trying to take bagram airbase i think

[@Customize]

At 4:00 “ANA Special Forces” was written on the helmet of an ANA troop. I wanna shake the hand of the marine that wrote that. 😂

[@Diddlebop49]

lmfao the ambassadors coming in for one day walking 150 feet to a heavily guarded tent.... ThIs Is WhaT wIniNing LooKs LiKe

[@Mikeylove93]

These people have issues i feel because they leave way too much up to “God”

[@ahmadhassan8466]

They don't want to fight face saving mission for US, killing their own righteous countrymen. How hard is it to understand?

[@azeemch5414]

Mikey Love these guys Have issue that issue is pentagon 🤣

[@happyolucky5354]

@@ahmadhassan8466 Youre right, they would much rather rape little boys and shoot at the air than defend themselves. After watching all parts of this, it's clear they just want the marines to do the fighting for them.

[@Mikeylove93]

Azeem Ch no the reason these people have problems is honour killing, bacha bati (touching kids), torture of women and not to mention the multiple Islamic extremist groups that are mass murdering there own countrymen just for their religious/sexual/political views. Yeah the pentagon is definitely the problem 👍

[@sirpicklestien1436]

20:02 this man is 100% correct and accurate it’s insane. He literally predicted what’s happening now, Hope leaders who are vigilant like him are ok 🙏

[@madmatt112]

That meeting between the ambassador and the US leadership around 13 minutes in... that might be the most damning piece of footage.

[@jetlink172e9]

6:38 "sniper" 👋🤣😂

[@guhad0108]

Wahahahahaha